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Simon Williams has said at what point handicap wise do you think spending extra money on golf balls or clubs actually makes a difference that’s the first part um yes you answer that corck what at what point should you be looking at spending extra money on let’s go with the balls more than anything because I think clubs depends on if you’ve not got set of clubs and you have to buy clubs and but what point is golf ball should you go from I’m a late ball guy I hit what fine to I’m going to invest in a type of golf ball that is a good that is a really good question because it is it based on how much time you’ve been playing golf is it based on your score is it based on what you want to achieve in your golf um I mean golf balls play is a huge Factor as you and me know and and I think where golf ball really starts to kick in is when you start to identify different fields of golf balls I would say um because you know I know certainly a brand new golfer I could get him to it 10 different types of golf balls from the softest feeling one to the hardest feeling one certainly around chipping and putting and I reckon wouldn’t really know the difference in feel it’s a bit like you know for for argument sake I know you’re not a huge Wine Drinker but if you started to drink wine or or a coffee drinker neither of those but yeah but let’s say you started drinking coffee I could give you the best of the best of the best of the best coffee and the worst coffee I wouldn’t know the difference it tastes the same to you wouldn’t it same with wine like when you first start tasting wine it’s like well that’s just red wine it all tastes the same but when you start to taste different flavors from different regions from different years you’re like wo there’s a big Variety in a big gap I would explain that same with golf balls I think at first when you first start playing you can’t really tell can you no there’s no point whatsoever in spending 4 pound on a prov1 no zero point go in the trees zero point but also I’d be very careful of late balls or balls that might influence your playing ability might you know deviate offline you want something that’s kind of in that middle range where it’s cheap cheap golf ball but it’s good quality and then once you start to understand the feel of that golf ball go well actually you know what I actually found another type of golf ball one of these two pound golf balls and going I like the feel of that a little bit better maybe I’ll invest in that brand I think it it comes with taste and almost been able to to feel the difference you literally sometimes taste a golf ball don’t you about it I’m yeah you’re very taste orientated you like a lemony Pro V1 don’t you I love yeah I love one that’s been found in a lake that’s at least three 3 weeks in the lake little bit salty little bit a little bit seaweed in there yeah yeah maybe bar from the group before had a little tinkling there yeah I’m with on that but this so my question then would be so I again this is no secret since being the age of 10 or 11 when the prov1 came out I have always used prov1 or always aspired to use prov1 I should say when I was a junior it wasn’t as simple as buying them obviously it was a case if I’d find them I’d keep the best ones for competition days and then whatever and then obviously I worked for Nike for a spell and and use their golf ball which was decent to beer and then since then always been pro1 on Friday again when I played golf I trial the golf ball not really tried before the vice I took a dozen Vice go golf balls in the Pro Vice Pro thought I’ve heard a lot of good things about Vice let’s try the golf ball and it was good there’s no ifs and buts and the best compl I’ve reviewed him in the past everybody that has I’ve ever seen say they’re good and that was the case the golf balls were good and the biggest compliment I can give them is that when I was playing golf other than the fact I was looking at a different logo didn’t think about it it felt a bit softer around the green than maybe a prov1 does but there’s also I think there’s a Pro Plus and there’s other very so I couldn’t use that as a critique but it just felt a little bit different but very quick got used to it as I said the best compliment I can possibly give is it felt fine didn’t think about it when I’m looking now like American Golf which is one of the retailers in obviously UK and Europe that are very big they have a great selection of products and you go on you filter it down to premium golf ball you’re looking you got the prov1 at 48 quid standard you’ve got things like your tp5 that it 448 for 12 golf balls it is I agree however I when it launched it was quid I remember Prov ones have always been 40 quid yeah Prov ones were 40 quid back in the year 2000 they were 40 quid when the first came out yeah wow I’m sure they were I’ll do some research if I’m positive um you’ve got things like tight AVX you’ve got Bridgestone golf balls obviously they get a great rap you got shrick and golf balls and and and by the way when I’m saying these Brands I’m thinking of the premium categories you’ve got obviously brands that make cheaper Callaway Chrome S they’re now 48 quid a dozen um t tp5 t tp5 tp5 5x Taylor Made Bridgestone these are the main Brands against shrien Wilson’s staff model they’re 45 quid that’s a tough price point for them in there very tough um and B those are the main Brands they’ve got anyway there’s multiple Brands and the question I’m going to kind of pose to you and I don’t really know if you have an answer or can there be an answer is I am an example of somebody this weekend who’s played golf with a golf ball that realistically and I didn’t have a a simulator to test on but was as good as a Prov one and the good drives that hit when as far as I would normally expect to hit he’d span great and the analogy I always use is if I was going to a golf day next week and on the first here there’s a dozen golf balls as a free gift what would want them to be it’s probably going to remain his Pro one and you know i’ I’ve used Vice still brilliant Taylor Made tp5 used those before briefly they were great Bridgestone are great what do these golf brands have to do or can they to to change people’s perceptions maybe it’s just me maybe I’m insulate in this maybe more people are willing to try but you’ve just said then with so many positioned at that 45 price point chrom soft Wilson Etc how do these Brands change perception it it’s been it’s a real long journey that prov1 has been on to to convince people that they’re the best golfball and I do think it’s changed and I think you and me are probably in that boat of being we’re in that generation that we aspired to own prov1 there’s a new generation coming up behind us that that has not been the case yeah tp5 might be their ball that they aspired to you know it might be the fact it’s a it’s a Callaway it might be the fact it’s Vice it might you know it could be a multitude of different brands and you’ve seen that in market share as well proba one does not have as much market share anymore as it used to have um but yeah it’s it is time and it’s trust and it’s making reliable golf balls for a long time and not changing the brand too much and I think a lot of brands have now learned that like how long now have t tp5 had TP in the family it’s been a long time now is it chrom soft has been in the family line for a long time um I can’t think Z Star ages yeah and and I think they’re learning now from Prov V one the the Titus Prov one the success of it is that you need these golf balls to be in the cycle for a long long long long long time to get real traction CU you know what’s funny is when it’s a good point that because again when I used to work for Nike they were forever changing the name of their premium ball until he landed on the resin which remained for a number of years until the exit the category of club and ball but if you think about a lot of golfers who are somewhat casual you might play a lot one year and you might buy a few boxes of balls and then next you might not play very much you might still have them golf balls left I know we lose a lot very quickly but you might do so not a lot of golfers are in the market of a golf ball that often so if your golf brand is changing every two years it can be very confusing as a consumer to know what is the premium Ball by strickson now or what is this so you just go to a brand that you know that you kind of trust but Brands like Kirkland have done well haven’t they as well they come out I think that’s a big thing if you can produce good balls that are cheaper which again Vice have done to be fa I think with Vice if you buy them in bulk you get them cheaper that’s their model I think people are leaning towards that if the quality can remain good but price point drops a bit you’re on again that’s the direct consumer model as well to be able to do that
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My sweet spot is Calloway Superfast. $25 for 15 balls. Play well and don’t break the bank. I like the matte yellow as well.
Slazenger v300s sports direct 48 for 25 quid can't go wrong
I love the Srixon q-star as a 19.5 handicap. 29 euro's for a dozen that is a 3 piece urethane cover, I can't fault it, it will be my go to ball now. I loved the Bridgestone and wanted the vice balls. Can't justify the TP5 or Pro V, as the cost is too expensive. Played around with the Seed's also and cheaper balls. It finally seems I have settled on my golf ball now.
Srixon q-star all the way in Yellow. Had the divide also, but I feel the yellows are better, plus I had my best round ever shooting an 83 for a 20 or so handicap I am well pleased.
I buy Kirkland Signature because I get 2% back with my Executive Membership. And that’s literally the only reason.
Callaway Chrome Soft fan here. I can't explain it other than the feel off the clubface suits me and after I switched my chipping and putting got a lot better, scores have definitely improved.
cheap hard balls are better for slicers. A pro v will slice hard while a hard one won't get as much spin. I would like to play a top flight 2000 on drive and pro v after that. lol
The newer Maxfli Tour line of golf balls are a fantastic value. You can get four dozen for just over $100. I've shot my best rounds with them and love the responsiveness/feel.
I feel what matters most when picking the right ball is your swing speed, average golfers like most of us wont really benefit from playing a prov1 or any other premium ball, you're actually more likely to lose distance. Just find a ball that matches your game and stick to it. I enjoy using callaway supersofts or titleist velocities, good quality and about $20-25 a dozen
I used the play the tp5 but with the price increase i only play 35$ balls now. Vice pro plus. Srixon z tour
Vice Pro plus is the one i like, its a softer ball 🙂
I have a mixed shag bag of practice balls, they all react differently on the chipping green. Maxfli makes the best balls for the money in my opinion. I buy them in the four dozen pack and they are around $2 per ball for a ball that performs nearly as well as a ProV1. I don't mind losing them and have shot in the 70's with them multiple times.
So I’m a golf ball lover. I buy all type. I feel that the TaylorMades are flying the best for me. Vice fly well for me and the look of the ball is awesome. I finally bought a new box of proV1’s. It’s a good ball. But I feel the TaylorMade feel better. But oh my I bought some new Wilson balls, awesome.
In the late 60's, when Dunlop 65's and Penfold Patented were 5 shillings (.25p) Titleist were 18 shillings (90p)
The biggest thing for me is the slow swings with wedges. When you hit a low spinner having it stick on a green or even spin back. The control off the putter face
Combined with not losing distance off the tee. I notice these things and shooting an 85 for me is really good. Some times I’m just a top flight guy because I’m on a new course, but on my home course I play all the time I like a softer nice ball.
I play vice tour and they are spot on feel great don't scuff up easy and are reasonable for price
I have like 30 pro v 1's, and I've never bought a pack of them in my life
I have played with everything and with the exception of how they feel it makes very little difference to me.
I play Nitro golf balls most times when I'm just playing casual rounds being only $28 for 48 balls.
When I'm in a tournament I switch to a better quality ball for inspiration.
The Kirkland balls are the perfect option for high hc players. Cheap enough where you don't hate yourself for losing a few, but excellent quality.
You didn't even answer the guys question 😂😂
Where I notice the difference is around the greens
Pro v 1’s in Canada are $78,99
I am 4 handicap. I shot a 71 back in February using a ProV1x that was a little beat up that I had found on the road heading up to the club. I had 6 birdies and an eagle that day.
I have routinely shot many, many rounds in the 70's using shit balls I found in the woods. Your swing, club selection, short game, and putting matter FAR more than the clubs you're swinging and the ball you're hitting.
After trying a few different brands I have settled on the srixon ad333 pice wise it's good and they fly well off the tee and are fairly soft around the greens 👌
Where I notice the difference between balls is spin around the green
I use topflight . Mint balls
For me the key is consistency. Whether it’s a $2 ball or a $4 dollar ball, you should always be using the same ball. High handicappers tend to play whatever they find in the woods or pond and you can get wildly different results.
I’ve been playing Wilson Triad golf balls. Love the feel of them.
just play the vice pro for years now. they are great! got used to it and for me no big difference to a pro v1. and if you order more than a dozen from their website the price goes way down. they make great stuff!
Is this a new generation advertisement for Vice?
I have my choice of whatever got sliced off the first tee into my backyard. I can’t give balls away fast enough to keep up.
I definitely feel the difference around the green in the cover, and have a rotating selection of premium balls some new, some found. Recently though I got tired of feeling guilty when I lost a nice ball, and was tired of playing used ones so I bought a box of cut reds just for fun. The best way I can put it is that they are definitely more suited for a bump & run style of golf than a nicer ball, but they putt surprisingly well for how much they explode off the face with an iron. I’ve had some very enjoyable rounds using them, and now only feel shameful instead of shameful guilt when I lose one.
My go to is the Maxfli Tour X, you can get them as low as $110/48 a few times a year. Only ball I’ve performed better with is the TP5x but not enough better to pay the extra $15/dozen
Had no idea Guy played as a junior. Given the standard of his game, thought he’d only been playing a year or two.
I love golf balls I can hit straight… Straight into the woods!!! Why are we paying $50 USD for 12 balls?? It's complete robbery… btw, Pro V1's aren't the best golf ball… Nicklaus played MacGregor, Tiger played Nike, and Bridgestone… So it's just marketing that says the Titleist Pro V is number one… and also working at a golf course for over 40 years it's also the most lost ball in golf…
Liked for "Barry from the group before had a tinkle in there" 😂
For me, it was when I switched and saw backspin/balls stopping on the green. My swing had not changed, but balls were no longer flying off the green. I understand some balls are easier to work left or right, but my game is not at that level. If it’ll stop on the green, I’ll play it. Don’t need more expense than that.
So this is a fun one. There isn't a true handicap per say for when you can start to think that equipment is holding you back. Guys can be ripping courses up with clubs and balls from 30 years ago. What it does come down to when thinking about equipment is when you can feel that strike is consistent enough and/or you can see differences in performance, mainly how the ball reacts when hitting onto the fairway and or greens. One ball may carry a little further but doesn't stop on the green, while a different ball doesn't even make the green on carry alone. Finding a ball that fits your game isn't that hard, as most brands make balls that can be very forgiving in the market. Not many people are going to be getting the full benefit of having a ball like a Pro V1 or a TP5 or a Chrome Tour style ball, but they still use it as it is the premium ball. I think once you can see a consistent strike pattern with short clubs, you can reasonably start to think about golf equipment and how it can elevate your game.
I wish you spoke on those golf balls with a mid handicap at 12-14. Would less spin balls work better for dispersion. Also with a 90 or so swing speed. You only discussed price point
Swing speed and compression matters also. If you are swinging slow at a tour level ball you're gonna get punished due to not compressing it correctly. Also if you don't hit a tour ball ball flush it'll lose massive distance. I use a Wilson Zip as it's a very forgiving ball wherever you hit it on the club.
I use medium price balls and they go just as far. Mid to high handicap buying Pro V1’s are just wasting their money! Their money, but money saved could go on lessons!
You need to have consistency.
Midrange is the best for double digit handicappers, test have shown that a softer ball for a high handicapper will go further then a tour ball due to swing speed and compression, the new speed soft from Taylor made are my new vice think there great.
The answer is simple: Kirkland. 90% as good as a pro v1 (just not as durable), half the price. Unless you’re a sub 10 handicap you won’t keep a ball long enough to worry about durability.
I used lots of golf balls over the years. Found the vice pro plus for my slower swing speed & it flies 10 to 20 metres further for me than the others but in warmer weather above 20° C. It's soft cover around the greens works for me as well. I use the neon lime as well as I can see it fly through the air with my old eyes as well as see it more easily in rough. Win. Win.
Maxfli Tour/S/X is the best ball out there. Pro V1 quality for $20 a dozen.