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Woodward Heavyweights I Thursday, June 20th, 2024



EZ, Spencer Raxter, Chris Platte and Nick Kohloff react to the Kendrick Lamar concert, JJ Reddick being hired to coach the Lakers, NFL and NBA lists plus more!

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scrolling a tank rolling with a gang you sitting out on the sideline tripping I go to the hole with the rock like Ping I’m okay well you’re just yours never works you just have to accept that at some point I know you’re the only one it’s like hey it’s it doesn’t pop up when I oh there sometimes you got to just pop out what up though and welcome to W heavweight it’s live on W sports.com I’m easy joined by SPO Rex hello Young Chris Nicholas kof let’s go AKA Michael Mario we got Caleb in the building too what’s going on Chris man what’s up man I I heard I I tuned into the show which was fun by the way to be like a viewer instead of actually a part of it get used to it buddy you’re fired yes it was a good it was it was a good time man you you you guys said some salacious things you know this wasn’t this wasn’t no Diddy party this wasn’t no this wasn’t nothing like that man it was a it was a good time it was a good Kickback shout out to my boy Isaiah and uh good company good VI it was it was fun though it was fun though to watch we were in the pool and then we had like a big TV that was broadcasting the the Kendrick uh the Kendrick concert and it was just it was dope that’s dope damn it was dope it sounds like a good time yeah that does sound pretty fun um shout out to Kendrick by the way shout out to kendri Bro not a single time I’ve ever watched a concert from the comfort of my home I honestly think that was the most legendary moment it’s one of them it was it truly a moment like the one I compare it to is like d d was really like the listening party of that was really cool but this is like a bigger Moment Like if you want to like nerd out honest I’m going say no cuz I didn’t know that dond was a I didn’t know I didn’t know what you’re talking about the God of listening party you didn’t watch that oh that was incredible that was leg that was incredible it was just the went song by song had sets premiering It For the First Time choreography it it was really good yeah that’s dope but he brought Tyler Westside Boogie Rody Rich uh obviously Abol J school boy Q Dr Dre which give [ __ ] a verse at least man he was just up there singing 616 and I like yeah abso was it was cool to see Fair actually very fair point and someone said school boy Q is as a real friend like to tell Jay Cole to get you don’t want none of this like don’t don’t don’t dip your toe in this beef he just being a friend of both of them got could have got ugly pock he’s he’s being a friend to Kendrick no no he’s being a a friend to both he was being a good friend to jcole grippy that’s hey real quick if you guys don’t know what we’re talking about prob some context you’re probably like three minutes in the show I wonder what the hell we’re talking about last night Kendrick Lamar did a live show I saw it was called Ken and friends and I also saw it called the popup which that’s the full title Ken and Friends a popup all right so Kendrick did a uh on Amazon stream if you had Amazon Prime you could have watched the Kendrick Lamar concert where he by the way no songs from um yeah just to you know just to prove a point there on that but either way he it was it was a moment because he started it with Euphoria which was the first disc he uh first shot he sent or no actually second shot technically they sent at Drake the six minute this uh and obviously that one’s grown that one’s aged like wi times on the way here today it’s it’s a banger a like wine for sure I love what is it the brains dude I was bumping that at work when Monte got fired I was bumping Euphoria you want to hear me no more okay D Contin you on uh it was DNA after that either way he did a lot of his best songs a lot of his best songs from his later work and then he ended it with uh they not like us five times five times yes the first time he didn’t R he didn’t rap a single word because the audience second was it the second time yeah first time he first time he had Dr Dre intro it no yes legendary yeah it was [ __ ] I was like oh no D you know [ __ ] [ __ ] Canada [ __ ] Drake get out of here you pedophile don’t come back like oh my God Chris make sure you download that Kelly Stafford video too by the way he actually did it five times fellas five times that’s insane it didn’t feel like five times yeah it didn’t feel like five times damn I did not know that wild the third time Russell rossbrook just comes out of nowhere LeBron was in the crowd too and then uh Demar D rozan comes out former Toronto Raptor yep and then a bunch of rappers was Wai for Serena I was waiting for Serena toake shout out YG yeah y perform performed at the show yeah and it came out was dancing and not like us yes and the camera too yeah what you think the be let you disrespect po someone said uh y’s like Jay-Z to uh Mexicans I was like yeah is he really yeah mexic dude I can see that but uh they finally got um who’s the one from Texas Mexican OT he’s fired is they got one he’s incredible they got one congratulations yeah Mex Mexicano fire uh but yeah dude Kendrick had and they had a a set leader from every set in Compton and Los Angeles every gang set yeah had one of their leaders up there on stage Crips Bloods pyus all of them together dancing to a song making calling a Canadian a pedophile like it’s interesting I I posted the clip of the Warriors like can you dig it like that was literally Kendrick last night I post he United the streets of LA to hate Mexicans like and the people who sorry to hate Canadians to hate pedop switch to hate Drake like if you if you ever thought that I like did I miss something yeah yeah they just threw him under the bus no but if you ever thought like that whole Kendrick has the the West unlock like Kendrick’s got the his finger on the button if he needs to he if you thought that was a joke now you know that just’s not a joke he’s got that part for sure and the best part was is you know pyus and Crips they all got along and they didn’t gun him down by the end of song they were all in unity they were all like he was like he was up there he was like man he said forget about the records this is what it’s about is the unification of the West this is this is Kendrick’s biggest moment like we can look at other moments in Kendrick’s career but I think Kendrick will always look at this as his big as his biggest moment because of that because of the unification and he was like remember everybody tried to leave after a couple pictures he’s like nah Noah Noah [ __ ] that we stay in here yeah it it was it was dope just absolutely absolutely legendary like I said probably the greatest night in hip-hop uh just [ __ ] awesome for sure in our lifeas Chris that was a bar um not meas fny I like Mexican people I I uh I don’t like Canadians and I don’t like pedophiles I posted the clip of uh you guys are old WWE fans or wa fans this even kind of started before I was like a big fan too I was a little bit too young for it but there’s this clip of Big Show he he regr it too cuz right right around the time his actual father like passed away so he did this bit with a guy he was like a rivalry with he like pulled up to the funeral hooked up the casket and drove off with it and The Big Show was like no jumped on it that’s literally Travis last night Travis like oh everyone’s just watching a concert from their house how late yeah imagine live tweeting a concert right now this dude was coping he was sitting under the covers holding like a drake picture or like an album of Nothing Was the Same that Wolverine meme or whatever yeah that was Travis no speaking of Travis Travis Scott got arrested last night and allegedly he said to the cop the cop goes like are you drunk and he goes it’s my that’s I mean that’s fair that’s very fair shout out to him and JT oh shout out to him and JT no shout out to be honest with you guys are way too rich to be driving drunk terrible to be honest with you guys way too rich that’s a terrible shot whoa that’s a crazy name what’s a crazy I wanted to read his comment but he deleted it what was his name Teo tan Yan he’s trying to make fun of means right now that’s the name of the hey bro bleep that Nick bleep that Caleb did you watch the concert uh a little bit I saw Clips on Twitter it was cool does Drake here’s my question does Drake this the slides like nothing happens from this you think like that was crazy I think that’s it I think that’s it I think he said that was the it was already done teao Su Teo yeah he’s trying to be Yan says that was the big boss man yes the big boss man yeah yeah dragging the casket the casket out [ __ ] so funny that’s a crazy name shout out haven’t seen you in the chat I wish cuz I definitely would have recognized that name that see sometimes you got to pop out and show sometimes you got he that was [ __ ] awesome it was so awesome I had to like explain it to my dad I was like yeah he called him a pedophile dude it doesn’t sound crazy when you explain it to somebody he he put out a diss track that was one of the scariest songs I’ve ever heard in my life where he broke down every single member of his family it it was it was dope no explain that’s how big it is like people like your dad yeah that Dad I explained it toad a rap fan dad my dad likes wuang Clan a lot he likes uh he likes some Jay-Z songs he likes he likes the Kendrick songs I’ve shown him uh so like he likes rap and he I was like yeah he he’s been dising Drake he’s like oh okay to put in perspective right a show that’s probably the most cleancut show on this network that that kind of by the book they get pissed off when you you know jump out of the line every once in a while the& show yeah they’ve had conversations about the beat it’s just that big weather guys were making right references to the beat Nick I got to ask you guys I’ve never been won for like live shows like award shows that kind of thing live concerts watching on TV how did it come across like the platform it it was just a moment bro did it sound really good it sounded great all of the it was insane how good quality the shots from the live stream were like the part like cut different cameras and shout out to Amazon for for doing that they did it right Jeff Bezos obviously not a fan of pedophiles either so shout out to him uh that it was it was awesome it was awesome I’ve never seen anything like that it was a hate concert dude made a disc concert and it was [ __ ] fire that’s what I’m saying like d Drake’s got to do something even if he didn’t want to before he can’t man Kendrick said he’s got more in stock like you just don’t want to open that door again cuz Kendrick will dun Kendrick will dunk you again but that’s the thing that also makes this concert cool is not only the moment but like Kendrick is one of the greatest performers like in in music across all genres he’s very performative he’s he’s always always he’s always been that way so even when he raps he very that’s why I knew I knew we had the podcast on on uh on your channel immedately when this stuff first started happening I said I was like Kendrick just his delivery is too theatric he he he Express what he’s feeling way harder beyond the words cuz he just he artistic says [ __ ] Drake the musical he’s got a musical coming out like Kendrick is writing a musical with the creators of South Park I feel that was my original thought I was like what if the whole thing’s just a drake this it’s about like a guy who doesn’t think he’s black enough or something like that I remember reading I remember reading like what it was that no and it’s something like that like a guy who’s questioning his blackness in in in the society’s in so like I honestly think this just going to be a [ __ ] more shots at Drake I’m Broadway if he wins a [ __ ] Tony for dissing Drake that would be insane what’s up fellas breaking news in the NBA the Chicago Bulls are trading two-time all defensive guard Alex Caruso to the OKC Thunder for guard Josh giddy wow wowo for giddy that’s kind I I like that I like that for both teams honestly straight up or picks too straight up I like that for both teams I think GID gidy would be a good fit next to LaVine uh for sure I I like that and I like obviously OKC just more defense over there that’s a good fit for them as well after this series with Luca and uh Kyrie yeah loading up on those Wing Defenders makes sense for them and and then the scary thing too is they still got the assets to go get that Center too for Minnesota or Denver like they literally just have enough asset to where they could get they could construct the perfect roster that can compete with any team n you you I’m sorry you fumbled that you should have said speaking of pedophiles Josh giddy traded to the Chicago I was not listening to a word you were saying my bad I was trying to read it to confirm it was the real yeah no I’m joking that would have been a sick uh transition shout out to uh shout out to OKC him dork Jaylen Williams SGA they got some serious the West is crazy though serious Defenders you still got the Spurs in the come up you obviously got um the Timberwolves in the I would not be surprised if we see can the Griz return to form if we see Trey young in a Spurs uniform next year I would not be surprised yeah that would work that would work perfectly one more piece of uh Western Conference news and we talked about kri for that long I didn’t realize etn warning all teenage girls in Chicago listen up Josh KY is on the Move yeah seriously JJ reck officially the uh LA Lakers coach too by the way yeah JJ a little bit earlier Kelly Stafford cheated on her husband when he was in college we’ll talk about that when we get back but not before you tell us about Planet Fitness Planet Fitness Planet Fitness is the home of the Judgment free zone where anyone and we mean anyone can feel comfortable and work on their fitness goals at Planet Fitness you’ll experience a squeaky clean gym tons of equipment full body workout and 30 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cheapest therapy I can find is Planet Fitness all the benefits All For Less Planet Fitness big Fitness energy for all well this next video is going to relate a little bit to this are you dealing with divorce child custody or visitation or the family law issues Matt view Kevin and Katherine and Katy KW Birmingham will have your back 10 plus years of experience plus 247 availability scan the QR code above my head or call 248 971 0476 say the heavyweight sent you and they will pay your filing fee you’re one of the most highest paid NFL players of all time but you should be fine with that one uh KD K law they got your back wait so was he trying to casually date and you were all in oh yeah girl anyways long story short wasn’t that cute of a relationship at first I hated him I loved him I dated the backup to piss him off which worked oh yes that’ll do it he was the bad boy too like Matthew’s so sweet and gentle and the the backup was the complete opposite yeah y ooh and it it upset him so they lived in the same dorm cuz athletes lived in the same dorm and he would see my car there and so at one point he like waited and F and followed me out and got in my car and wouldn’t get out St and he was like this is so hot I was like this is amazing working yeah I was get out of my car and he was like I don’t he’s not right for you and I was like who you can’t tell me that she is the worst dude she is the worst she is the worst I know every time I I I love Matt Stafford I love mat stord he’s he’s a very cool guy he’s a pro he does everything he can for for the team you know and but jeez I know every time he sees her pop up he’s like God damn it like what she do this time and yeah just come on Kelly like is anything sacred to you you just like you don’t tell those sto like anymore like that’s just like once you reach like motherhood I feel like like Parenthood I just those kind of stories like you just don’t I I don’t know you just I don’t I don’t I think they look worse in that time yeah I guess maybe it’s not as hardcore as like New York or something like that but La Media feel like they Pro and pry and yeah I’m sure he’s asked these questions or just even have that thought I don’t know cast it upon you it just I feel bad for the guy DN or not DNC ENT I’m not reading that one Detroit Supremacy says uh Kristen would never you can argue who got the better end of the stick with the quarterback upgrade between Stafford and GF you cannot argue who upgraded more than the first lady because Kristen Harper Kelly Stafford that’s the thing too she had go ahead I’m sorry Nick yeah no you think about just the day and age you think about like only fans moms and kids getting like so abused about this I think this is something like you know those four daughters are probably going to like hear about one day oh for sure you know they’re going to see this video I know it’s dead obviously it’s not let’s not start with them but you just gave two kids so much ammo yeah I don’t them kids man what do you mean yeah different levels I’ll be I’ll be that’s more for us we should Trash Talk those kids even more your mom does kid oh my God no I mean it’s just not a good look for a mom I think but she sucks dude she sucks she notoriously sucks and like notoriously continuously does stuff like this where it’s like come on man like Chase Amy put in the wolver Sports Chat too she told the story before which he must not have an issue with it because I’m assume because it did on the Baro podcast beforehand with the uh Kevin Kevin KFC yeah yeah KFC and so I figur out there would have been a conversation then like hey you I don’t know I’m not cool with this then it happens again I don’t know bro and I feel bad for Matt Stafford cuz she like he’s a nice guy he’s a genuine guy well bro to her bring up he was a bad boy too like you miss that [ __ ] did you like you remember that [ __ ] bro cuz that’s the thing like and you know what if you saw the car at the dorm room she was getting piped down so there’s no way they could have been you know you know who’s the backup for the Rams now Jimmy J One Jimmy garoo yeah oh so is that something M Stafford’s going to have to be looking over his shoulder at you we have oh I didn’t send it damn it I you know I’m comfortable bisexuality to say Jimmy garoo a very handsome man handsome guy he’s a very handsome guy think about some ammo for other teams now yeah at the line of scrimmage chirping at Stafford while he making calls oh you better watch your back for B Boy again huh those defensive linemen are going to run wild with this this is just just more problems to give a man like this is a guy who give you generational generational generational wealth and you’re just going to add more to his you’re supposed to be his peace like I I just I can’t stand Kelly Stafford man that’s why I’m booing the kids it’s because it’s Kelly Stafford don’t Boo the kids bo kids we got the shirt buy the shirts wward sports.com shop boo them um do you want to see the guy in question and STS and bet and or one of the guys in question I should say the name on the people are saying it is was Joe Cox uh back of quarterback yeah the picture did you send the picture Chris I did he does not look like the bad boy kind does looks like he’s like the redheaded step chop that would make you the bad so here’s a breakdown Joe I know you guys can’t read this I the other one by the way he’s a phenomenal so uh his favorite albums his favorite I’m sorry his favorite artist favorite artist and his iPod is back Lil Wayne okay Young Jeezy All Right Gucci Man Jay-Z Tupac Outcast bunby UGK 36 this this one fits the bad boy mold he drives 20 2002 Nissan Ultima this is back then by the way yeah favorite film’s old school ancher man old school is a great movie forgetting sah Marshall that’s a great movie oh forgetting s Marshall I like all three of those this guy sounds like a bro put the other picture up dude dude I’d hang we got to get Joe Cox on the show I tried I was going to do it but then there’s another guy may be people are saying is Logan gray is the other name which you think about the backup quarterback that’s who was slamming I think about like Blue Mountain State type [ __ ] you know backup quarterback best uh best position in college it is the it’s the best position in it’s the best job in the world is being a backup quarterback in the NF you get paid millions of dollars a year like it’s not like you’re getting a [ __ ] salary you’re getting paid tens of millions of dollars a year in some instances to hold a clipboard for a majority of the season and when you get put in nobody expects anything of you you can go out there and [ __ ] the bed nobody’s mad at you because you’re the backup and you still might get another job and if you do go off you’ll get a fat contract and then get Matt Flynn and not even have to play anymore but still sign the 50 million contract Monty wood that is the greatest job in the history of the world is the backup quarterback in the NFL that is my dream job oh got a lot of work to do if if I want to achieve that dream but uh yeah that that’s the best job coaching the Pistons You could argue is up there close to Pistons is up there too uh AI chat summary says the chat conversation resolves around quarterback Matthew Stafford yours of discussing Stafford’s alleged infidelity with some finding oh it went away AI has done some it’s starting to get a little scary I’m not going lie dude I’m way more scared of AI spying on your chat conversation right now um what do you guys want to talk to next put in the chat too I’m I’m making a poll here soon we got Pistons topics we got Lions topics I’m excited to do both I want to get Stafford’s wife stuff in there because every single time dude she man like every time think he’s into that kind of stuff she Kelly Stafford she helped us out I’m just saying like why would you let your wife like just [ __ ] all over you like this I know it’s like what they do but like this another level of it bro she just publicly saying like yeah I was [ __ ] his teammate bad boy it worked yeah and he was a dog in Georgia bro like he was number one draft he was the man yeah I I feel bad for Matt Stafford I like this makes me feel bad for Matt Stafford I love I I Matt Stafford is the man I was a big fan of his I was happy to see him get the Super Bowl but Jesus man I feel bad for the guy every time every time and it’s like it happens every year like clockwork just something she helped us out a lot for sure they backed up a [ __ ] truck full of toys for the stuff of Studio no yeah they’re they’re great people yeah but Jesus Kelly come on yeah I’m not judging her as a person I’m just saying like to do to your husband just decision poor decision making yeah like that definitely be their Scouting Report your scout in a wife po decision making oh boy saw a bunch of like former athletes like all over this on Twitter like oh hell no like did you did cracker of the week or Cracker of the day the week yeah true she post AB was on it he highlighted it as uh as fenny said AB still on a generational run Sean one of the kings of Twitter Shawn marman I went to a football camp hosted by Shawn marman did you really yeah what a beast dude he baller you know I got his name lights out yeah just in high school knocking dudes out that’s [ __ ] insan dude he was intimidating guy he was a big dude I think was uh it was when I was seventh or eighth grade I think yeah know he like started doing like MMA as well yeah wild I put in the chat what you guys want to talk about next Detroit Lions Detroit Pistons we got news in both areas um this is putting up a fight for once what do you mean on the in the PO on the chatle they’ve been kind of relevant lately holding the ground I want to do this Pistons topic really bad honestly okay the Cade rankings but no if the if you know it’s up to the chat we’ll let them survive or we’ll let them choose but the rank dude the Kade disrespect is pissing me off unreal yeah yeah that was crazy I that’s the one I want to do really bad but it’s up to the chat so we’ll come back from break and we’ll figure out which one they decide uh all right dude DNC EMP is trying to [ __ ] with the AI he just what was he saying he’s just putting in a bunch of random sexual comments to try to get to AI Miss Morning Wood uh uh that’s funny dude you guys are the best um hello dude first of all yeah quick sidebar easy M call this pandering I love you guys dude the chat you guys are the best we have by far the best chat on the network and it’s not even close uh I love it you guys are the best that’s not even pandering that’s just facts it’s just facts like you guys when I act all wild you do it he yeah sometimes SP the other shows but they don’t know how to handle it that’s part too cuz they don’t know if you’re joking or not and sometimes our inter don’t know how to handle it yeah it’s yeah it’s just remember when Noah was in the booth Noah won’t go in the booth anymore Noah won’t go in the booth anymore so thank you for that guys yeah so shout out shout out to you guys shout out to you guys for scare Noah away um all right let’s go to break we get back P Alliance CH Noah was an intern you remember when Noah was an intern I think he was working at the time no it was him chees nips and Chris yeah we were all three inter were interns and uh what was the other fourth guy no I’m I’m saying when that happened Noah was likeing and Roman no when that Noah was working oh yeah he say that cuz do he say do Clips anyway tell us about Felman since 1996 Felman Automotive has been driven to provide a fast convenient first class car buying experience called the Felman Advantage with 18 locations there’s a Felman dealership in your backyard visit Felman auto.com to find the location nearest you and catch Woodward Sports Network Live from Felman Chevrolet of Novi every other Monday Felman Chevrolet Detroit’s 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that sh was so funny looks like that was about Cooper to but another a different Cooper it is 50/50 no way that’s tough Lion’s 51 is what it says on mine right now yeah well shut up Chris it’s 50 Caleb you clip uh balls in your court brother okay 50/50 end it we’re doing Pistons that’s what I was going to say we’re doing pistons pistons I I got we have people in the chest and they’re leaving talk business I got to do this [ __ ] Mike fenny man Mike fenny great at his job he he’s been doing it for a while he’s got one of the most popular midday shows in the country cool shut the [ __ ] up about this K Cunningham [ __ ] like you you haven’t watched him play if this is the way you’re going to act he can’t be an all NBA player why the [ __ ] not you you slob Paulo Paulo vano knob and then you’re going to say Cade sucks like what the [ __ ] are you doing man he had a better year statistically than Paulo the only reason he wasn’t up there was because of the team being [ __ ] and it’s not his fault that everyone around him can’t play basketball it’s not his fault that his head coach was checked out five games in like just don’t put that on him please don’t and saying you’re going to trade Kate Cunningham for Kellin Johnson in three first round picks what are what are you doing so you’re saying Kate Cunningham is equivalent to uh the what Devonte or what’s God damn it why can’t Devonte Graham uh Murray oh J deante de Mur de Kate is a better player than Deon Murray he would fetch you a higher Bounty than dejonte Murray on the trade market so making that the equivalent exchange because that’s what dejonte Murray went for was three first round picks from the Hawks like stop I understand this is why you do it to get people fired up get people talking and and so you just sit there and yap yap yap and I’m walking here and all that stuff but like come on man watch it watch watch K Cunningham play basketball and tell me that a guy oh yeah first round pick in this draft be really worth it right you really love to see one of these guys on this team he’d be a better fit than K Cunningham out there like go oh Reed Shepard yeah oh he’d be great you put him out there instead of K Cunningham Pistons 40 win team easy like what what are we doing here man he’s the only player you have on this team he is the only core player you have on the Pistons and you want to get rid of him why if what makes me so mad is like the people that they’ll be like how can you hang on to K you just won 14 games blah blah you could tell those guys don’t watch Pistons basketball he’s not the reason we only won 14 games like he is he is the reason we won those games yes it it’s volani seems like one of those guys that checked out after week I mean game three and then just was box score watching and saw we were losing games and saw that and thinks Kate Cunningham is one of the main reasons it’s crazy it it makes me so mad before you talk about the Pistons you have to watch a games especially last year because in I see people on Twitter talking about oh firing Monty Williams that was a crazy thing to do blah blah blah he went to an NBA Finals if you watched the games last year you would know he is the sole reason we lost I would say can I say 70% of those games yeah was Monty williams’ fault I’m here before you talk about the Pistons watch The Games first I know it’s tough but watch the games and his defense will be going on there oh gabao you do nobody watches the Pistons around here blah blah like it’s funny because I am a Pistons fan who likes the Knicks and he is a Knicks fan who has to talk about the Pistons so like it’s opposite ends of the spectrum you don’t watch the Pistons if you think Kate Cunningham is the problem that’s flat out you don’t watch the Pistons if you don’t see the potential of Kate Cunningham and what he can be in this league if you put living breathing NBA players around him not guys like oor Thompson who who shoot 10% from three not guys like Jaden Ivy who are only effective when they have the ball in their hand and are going downhill not the corpse of Bogan bogdanovich who can’t stop anybody on defense like you need to put around good pieces around him and yeah you have to or he’s just going to be out there dying and being the highest efficient uh highest paid player on the team with nobody around him because of guess what you can’t build the team through the draft I talked about is Troy Weaver the guys he’s drafting are black holes on one side of the ball or the other K Cunningham is the only complete player you have on this roster it’s it’s [ __ ] to be like oh yeah let’s just trade him who are you building the team around then you’re burning it down and starting over no you have the piece to build around so build around him don’t keep giving him trash and then blaming him for it that’s when the conversation becomes [ __ ] stupid in my opinion is what you’re talking about Kell Johnson and and then the three first round picks brother you know how how long it took to get a k CM here like like this this I guarantee the same guy that’s hitting the r Airwaves and telling you that no you’re not going to get a top tier for agent because you’re Detroit you suck and like the money’s not going to bring them here it’s the same guy saying that [ __ ] so if you Gaba guy like Gaba guy sounds like you said the Gaba gab you finally got a kid [ __ ] him which know you you were talking about trade up two Once Upon a Time I’m hold you to that but when you finally get your K [ __ ] him you don’t [ __ ] give him away for three first round picks on top of the fact you watch this franchise get [ __ ] in the draft three three times over the past couple years too it makes zero sense to do and as you said too it’s simply just watching the game you know k cut was the first round pick for a reason a number one overall pick for a reason undoubtedly the number one overall pick for a reason I never gave Troy raver credit for drafting K cym because anybody with a [ __ ] two brain cells or rub together would have drafted Kate Cunningham there’s no you don’t get credit for that one it’s not like this year’s draft class where you don’t know what the number one overall pick is because it’s kind of a shuffle of guys K Cunningham is is one of those guys he can be he could be all NBA K Cunningham would be not even close the number one pick in this draft not even no that’s not even a discussion that’s not even a disc Jaylen green might be the number one he might have been number one overall this 1% France Vagner would Jaden Ivy would probably be the number one pick in this draft no it’s the reason why we had obviously the mon just got fired we talk about who do you want us coach who you want us coach I don’t give a [ __ ] who’s coach I told you guys this I said every single day practically the players is what matters and you have 1K CUNY him they’re going to sign him they’re going to pay him the 50 $6 million or whatever the hell it may end up being but you build around that from then on you don’t just go and grab three random first round picks where you don’t know where they’re going to be on top of the fact that if they are from a [ __ ] team and it’s in a lottery you still don’t know where the [ __ ] they’re going to be it it just doesn’t make any sense to do that and Kellin Johnson to put his name the same conversation honestly just like worth the hawk Tu yeah you want to you want to talk about inefficiency look at Kellin Johnson this is from a Kell Johnson fantasy owner this dude goes 1 for 17 like several times throughout the season he’s ridicul he’s ridiculously inefficient I like the I like the tools that he flashes but he’s never consistent but the Cade point you guys nailed it you know Spencer started easy that’s exactly where I wanted to go with it is the ultimatum of trading Kate like I’m sorry but how can you watch this front office this regime this ownership and for years for years watch the moves that they made and put your faith in that over Kade Cunningham because that’s what you’re doing if you trade k coam you’re putting faith in the front office I’d rather put Faith in K cam K coam to me has shown in the last 15 years worth more more than a damn anything else that this Pistons organization has had on the court off the court in ownership there’s nothing that’s been more valuable that’s been worth more investment than Kade kingham so you do not trade K coam I get that your assets might not look the way you want them to look and it may be hard to build a contender around Cade given what you have right now but the ultimatum is trading it and tanking when you year after year get absolutely hosed by the lottery you have you have no reason to trade K coningham when he is this important to the franchise he’s the only known in the entire franchise Kate Cunningham is the only known in the Pistons franchise right now you know who he is you know what he is you know the level of player he is you don’t know anything else about the younger players you don’t know about a head coach you don’t even have a [ __ ] head coach yet you don’t have a GM yet you don’t know about your president basketball Ops you hope he’s going to be good it looks like he’s going to be good but the only known in the entire Pistons franchise is that the telm are going to do something stupid and that Kate Cunningham is a very good basketball player Tom Gorge going pay a lot of money for that stupid decision as well yeah uh DNC says he understands what V is saying 100% uh he says we have no assets no war chest to build a team but trading Cade isn’t yeah no we have assets you’re DC brother you you’re my guy you’re the one that believes in Jaden Ivy is that not an asset it is an asset that’s that’s an asset you have the number five overall pick in this year’s class is that not an asset that is an asset sorry Nick go ahead fellas if you trade Kate Cunningham you’re not winning that trade no matter what I don’t care if you get three or 10 first round draft picks you’re not winning that trade because you have the best player in that trade that you’re giving up I know he’s had a lot of crazy stats in his lifetime I think this one might be the best Cunningham became the sixth fastest player in NBA history to record 2,500 career points and 800 assists along with Oscar Robinson Allan Iverson Luca donich Trey young and LeBron James oh yeah that guy can’t make all NBA right is that what we’re talking about this guy can be a leader on a championship team he has never been helped out at all by this organization think about the moment that we won that Lottery and we knew we were getting Kate Cunningham boys like think about that like he is that player still just has not been helped the right way Kate Cunningham is Detroit basketball and he’s going to be the big reason why this team gets back to relevancy you cannot trade Kade Cunningham shout out to Mark World in W Sports Chat he says all everyone was saying during the Weaver was Dream Weaver and when we got Ivy and Duren saying he stole Duren everyone was happy Ivy fell a five I was never happy with Ivy I I’ve I’ve battled waves of Pistons fans on that one for the longest relentlessly Chris and I finally put down swords on that one yeah I was never happy to I pick Duren was a steal I still feel that way Duren is a steal for sure Duren still a steel I wanted shad and sharp but I wasn’t shark would have been a dog yeah know those two and I’m down open of lines you guys want to trade Kate if you have like I just I’m not I’m not sold on it if you have a if you have a a Godfather offer maybe but in those situations bro just the history of my lifetime and somebody correct me if I’m wrong I’ve never seen a and I guess he’s not a superstar yet because one of your games I obviously Superstar potential I think we all agree to that one I’ve never seen that trade work in the favor of the team that dealt the Superstar not in Anthony Davis trade not in the carel Anthony trade not in what what one Paul GE the Paul George OKC that ended up being that but it wasn’t just Paul George that they M they also moved uh Russell Westbrook they also had picks from Kevin Durant they also Chris Paul like it wasn’t we don’t have that luxury of trading away seven super super stars to get 40 picks it would be one guy the only guy you have that’s not the same thing I agree but but hear me out just look at that trade in a vacuum forget the other trades that was still an epic win for OKC you trade Paul George you get SGA who ends up being the guy and is now far better than Paul George and on top of that you get the multiple picks like that is so basically in Valente scenario Kellin Johnson would have to become sgaa for the Pistons to win that trade that ain’t it and that [ __ ] and that [ __ ] just ain’t happening because like e was pointing out this is that’s the only scenario you can point out where a star was traded and the other team and the other team won maybe you can do like the even swap of sabonis and halberton I guess if you want to like consider sa bonus a star but it’s very few and far between 99% of the time when you are trading the star you don’t win the trade never you just buy yourself time to rebuild that’s all you that’s all you do and like what you said I trust more about what kid cunning that can do on the court than this team or this franchise burning it all down and restarting yeah I think a big thing too is we’ve seen it in the like uh National media as well they just want Kade out of Detroit I swear that’s the vibe I get they just want to see him paired with another Superstar they just want to see him play anywhere else besides the Pistons and I think Valen feels the same F in way I can’t stand for it yeah lny wants him on Boston he was saying trade him for Dereck white yeah which what the like come on he’s he said Derek white was better than him yeah he’s a [ __ ] idiot like that’s just stupid I’ll throw another one in there kland to Toronto but that is also the Warriors are healthy there’s no Championship there there was no not even close to winning that series if the warriors were Health that’s opposite you aren’t you saying like the team that traded the Superstar you’re right apologize ton apologize yeah Iris in Denver no I just want to make sure I was yeah you’re right 100% right yeah no I I [ __ ] up than that one no yeah lard Toronto hard Spurs three times he got traded Chris PA the Clippers how’d that work out Tracy McGrady to Houston Dwight Howard to Lakers goes on and on and on Chris Paul the Lakers Kyrie multiple times Durant multiple times yeah Kevin Durant to Boston Shaquille NE to Miami like it’s to the point where you outside of again the Shay one which is a good one to bring up I guess you couldn’t even tell me the other side of these trades yeah like that’s if they were worth the damn you would have remembered the other side of it it just doesn’t work out that way it’s not NBA is about players no you need if you have a great player you keep that great player and you build around them Kyrie to Boston yeah like you want to see you want to see a really bad team you get K Cunningham off of this roster they’re winning six games yeah what the [ __ ] are we talking about here dude um we start Pistons let me get back I got another I speaking of Trades I got a question for you guys but not we tell us about Guardian Alarm Guardian Alarm offers you customize solutions from real experts their professional technicians take the time to recommend security and automation Solutions specific to your needs they also have 247 professional monitoring you call them anytime day or night know a Guardian Alarm team member will stay on the phone as long as needed and of course they have technology back by people your Safety and Security are technology has been proven to work and people have been proven to care so call them at 1 1800 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more across the Great city of Michigan your local canas plug Vis him online you must be 2 my bad I thought that was the end no you’re good Mark Roy what’s going on bro what what is what I I don’t he hates Kade hater I’m sure he wanted jayen green too I don’t I don’t Mark what is going on bro please call iny make a make a make a stance I mean are you say they didn’t win games is Deon Booker a superstar he didn’t win games for the first five years of his career is it the braids and then you definitely don’t do it by yourself either M ah come on guys yes he is that good that’s why he’s about to get a Max contract he’s not all NBA yet it hasn’t happened that’s for damn sure I mean I think winning comes with that I don’t think we’ve ever seen that on a losing team I don’t I think the lowest uh an NBA player in the last 20 years has made all NBA was DeMarcus Cousins on the Kings when he was like when he had like 38 wins something like that or 33 somewhere in that range I I’ll I’ll fact check that but yeah like you don’t 14 wins you ain’t getting [ __ ] I don’t care how good you are Anthony Davis right like he kind of was in the same situation wasn’t winning yeah made the playoffs one time got swept he trade LeBron trade with LeBron he wins a championship like you need players around you it’s just speaking of Trades though that could that could have been the one that they ended up that they ended up winning if Zion if Zion really would have hit yeah oh wait no cuz it was their own pick that got them the never mind um all right well speaking of Trades and probably this is what happening Nick what he didn’t want to happen is happening right now so I’ll stall with it but what is it the trades what is it the trades I’m a question cuz I was looking at the draft class and there’s one particular guy that I want and I just don’t know if he’s going to be there it’s Zach how you say his last name Zacharias Ricochet whatever Zack Ricochet regardless though thought you going to say e dude I was about [ __ ] lose my no you’re the only one that wants E I was going to say though everyone agrees that the things this team needs to move on or to to move up I should say is you need fit you need shooting and you need a guy that that’s going to be here committed to like what’s going on I don’t know you’re going to find that in open market in free agency everyone’s been saying it like you’re not us included who’s going to want to come here who’s going to want to take your money to be in Detroit are you going to get that superstar in free agency we can’t guarantee it the guys you are going to get in free agency are probably you know those French guys that you kind of just offer the most money to and just happen to fall here you there’s a trade route and you could trade for a veteran piece it’s already paid but with the Monte experiment did we not already learn what happens with just bargain you know having a guy here that’s only here for money MH we learned that not in your favor I think we learned that the Pistons that pass for players as well too when it comes to Bing Gordon TR V wave and a lot of contracts like that that were delved out as well why not trade it’s going to sound crazy for that number one overall pick from the Hawks I I don’t I don’t feel the Hawks are in a rebuilding phase I feel like they still feel like they’re kind of in it would you be willing to trade up in the number one pick and grab your guy have a guy that’s going to be bought in with the culture have a guy that’s locked in the apron’s changing things now in the NBA where it’s like the cap kind of matters now used to be able to do the luxury tax and get cute and [ __ ] like that you’re about to pay Kade CM $56 million you’re going to grab somebody else for $40 to $50 million grab your piece now why why not move up to number one pick get a guy that’s locked in F you want to do ivy IV in five is that what you’re saying I’m cool with that no hard pass you get more than that I think you I don’t know you give up that draft is so weird I don’t know if the number one pick is worth trading up for in this draft I I I really don’t think it is I like a guy like Cody Williams that you could get at five who is a 40% three-point shooter who is a guy who is good size he’s like 67 I think and and he obviously he played at Colorado he is a guy that would fit this team very well he’s the brother of Jaylen Williams like this is a guy who can play defense and he could shoot the blood out of the ball and you wouldn’t have to trade up to number one to get him I I don’t think no I don’t think trading up for one who knows if he makes it there I think two definitely be there we also get lost in the ability or the the rationale of the other team like Atlanta if they want to compete easy five and Ivy isn’t necessarily an offer that helps them and makes Atlanta better today they can still grab their piece it would have to you’d have to get really creative expand and expand I’m not I’m not detailing the trade as five and I that’s what spinny spitball there I’m just saying the trade in general I think that’s kind of probably what it would be honestly because the thing about this draft is and that’s why there’s a lot of chatter about the picks one through five is that because it’s so crowded like people are going to find the player that they love every team’s going to fall in love with one or two guys but you have to you have to trade up in order to guarantee yourself that guy because you don’t know if the other teams are in love with those with those same guys because it’s such a it’s such an even crapshoot SO trading all the way up to one in a draft class where the first seven or eight no crap shoot when you’re at one though you’re grabbing you’re getting your guy right right but this is also a draft class that’s been regarded as and obviously draft classes are always wrong people change but ultimately this is looked at as the first pick is like what would be worth the ninth pick in a regular draft these are a bunch of good these are a bunch of good role players but not star upsides so to me I just I I don’t think this is a draft you do that I would rather honestly re-evaluate that in another draft class like next year which is supposed to be loaded with quote unquote star town and I I don’t want another Frenchman I just started this just as a topic too and then as as I’m writing down like the reasons why it would make sense I kind of started selling myself on it because the guy that I want is zachari 6’9 guy that can spread the floor a little bit little bit shaky on defense but obviously long enough to where he could cover like a lot of the shorter guys I tell you all the time Wings when your rings he’s a little bit more mobile skinnier guy too he can move fluidly enough why not go and get your guy this is a draft class like say you have a guy that you’re locked in on I feel it would make sense to move to number one because you have to give up a [ __ ] entire War chest to do so you know what I’m saying because like you said everybody feels kind of interchangeable you don’t have to give up forever and turnning to go up there and do it it comes it comes down to your evaluation of of Reet and like do you think he’s the guy or whichever Prospect it is whether it’s Reed Shepard I know a lot of people love to like if you really think that that’s a guy then yes you go and get it like look at look at we have now an example of what a good franchise does here in Detroit and building a team and that is the Detroit Lions and what does Brad Holmes continuously do he goes and gets his guys no matter what it takes so if you are evaluating if trejan Langdon is evaluating this this draft class and sees one of those guys as his guy then yes you go and get it but from my perspective I don’t think that any of these guys are the guy or I have enough confidence in knowing that these are the guys that’s my evaluation though yeah with that being said easy where are you at with this guy’s ceiling and like you think he fits well with Kade and what’s his ceiling is it is it worth giving up a guy like Jaden Ivy and your number five your number five pick absolutely absolutely for a guy that what is he going to be on a good team so I so the ivy thing again that’s like you guys spitballing it I feel like you get away with five and maybe some of your first or whatever you need to dress it up with just because they’re in a win win now mode and I don’t know that Ivy is that maybe Duren is it I don’t know if I’m comfortable in that conversation I I I like it in this year’s draft class specifically because I feel like you don’t have to give up that much I feel like five and maybe a first can get you that I feel like because it is such a crapshoot I don’t know if any of these guys are your guys that’s where I’m at where I don’t think anybody’s standing out from the C is guy in this class I’m kind of confused like otherwi other guys keep like topping the only other guy I can see jumping him I feel like is Al Alexander star SAR yeah I mean are where you guys at who do you guys number one it’s it’s going to be one of the Frenchmen are are going to be the first overall pick for sure um but like I said I don’t know if I I’d rather give up if I’m giving up assets I’d rather go get a better player than than one of these guys I just don’t think they’re going to be worth but that’s the thing trading two of your most important you still have those assets to grab other pieces what so what so what is your trade package tell me your trade pack told I’m telling you five and a protected first and a protected first and a protected first what if it’s it’s only four spots what if we get a player back I take notes every day I never [ __ ] can find them every single day it’s the most annoying [ __ ] in the world it be like a 2027 first right cuz it’s got to be outside of the New York uh pick that they have I don’t know if that gets it done I don’t I don’t think Ivy is the name by the way too like I’m not I’m not bringing up Ivy in this trade scenario because I don’t think the Hawks would want that but they want a but they want that L value a 10-year-old whe they whether they flip Ivy somewhere else like through a third team but my my thing is when it comes to this trade I just I don’t know if the pisses have the luxury and again this is why I hate the position they’re in I don’t know if they have the luxury after winning 14 games to take a gamble on a not known commodity like I I I just yeah I don’t think this is the draft you trade up yeah I don’t I don’t I don’t know this seems like the most crapshoot of all drafts again if your evaluation is Brad you are Brad Holmes level confident in whatever player you are you want then go get him yes by any means but ultimately I don’t is just the name that I’m putting out by the way too like they may have another person I would have zero problem if they moved up to number one overall to grab their guy I’m not mad about that and getting more Talent no but like I’d rather see them get veterans yeah I would my best case scenario is they don’t even make a pick in this draft you know no I’m with you that that was my initial thing right but I’m if they’re making a trade and that that was the one I’m cool with it and by the way too I don’t even think that you would be stuck at just making that trade you can still grab your veteran piece and trade as well because I don’t think you’re giving up a fortune to go up to number one I just don’t see it that way yeah you’re definitely wouldn’t have to give up a fortune so you still have your assets to go grab those veteran pieces and the cat space to do it because you’re not grabbing all veteran guys you’re grabbing a if you’re saying it would be five and Isaiah Stewart yeah I’d do it would that do it I mean that’s not a fortune I think the Hawks would value Isaiah Stewart more than a 10th grader it might do it or eighth grader you know cuz like I said the first round pick that we would be able to give him the future first wouldn’t be until like 2028 so if the Hawks are in win now mode that wouldn’t do anything for them oh sh un they F that ad is has about five ivy for young no I would do that in a heartbeat I would do that they wouldn’t do that yeah they would not do that there’s not a [ __ ] chance def need more one first round pick would you guys do ivr and five for young that wouldn’t get it done either you would need to give them four first round picks to get Trey young what about dejon instead of Trey young oh might be a better fit alongside Kate he’s a great defender but they gave up the three first round he wasn’t that good this year on defense but he has some tools to be I it’s I every day this happens to me I’ll write some [ __ ] down then when I go to grab it gone what the [ __ ] ripping um hey call in I want to hear you guys thoughts on it I want hear you guys thoughts on the K C disrespect is K the pie looking to trade I think you all know our feeling on that one hell to the [ __ ] no is Rich Baldwin to the na no no what Rich Baldwin say I hope I I think he’s joking I think he’s joking but he said uh where was it Kaden five to Sacramento for dear and fox uh is this true the SNP in we can’t trade a first so why why yeah so so because of uh basically that rule was in place because of the kg and Paul Pierce trade it’s strong picks yeah you can’t trade backtack um picks like like in consecutive years we haven’t done that yeah but but the problem is there’s protections on the New York Pick so it’s not certain when it conveys so because you’re not certain when it conveys you have to go two years it has to convey next year it’s done now no it it it it doesn’t it’s like it’s like top one through 16 protected next year for New York so but that’s the last year is next year correct uh I would have to double check that I don’t think so I think it goes till 26 and I think 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Premier pets supply.com what up there welcome back to heavyweights live over sports.com your boy e joined by SPX on Chris Nicholas kof smash the like butt also the building too it’s 2028 2028 would be our our our free pick to trade unless obviously decided through the the lottery so I think I believe you guys are correct that sucks can’t do the future y’all want to see y’all want to see my fit to the pool party yesterday yes yes if you have it ready oh my God all right we’re that it been funnier context but oh it’d be funny if we did it yesterday I forgot to do that yeah I for I forgot to send that in I wanted to actually the reason why we didn’t play your video Yesterday by the way too spinny saved you cuz what the [ __ ] was that in the beginning of the dude that was the that was the Euphoria the beat that [ __ ] was It was kind of off beat you know I had no idea what the [ __ ] if you’re proud of it play it you know I was no I was on my I was on my lunch break real quick and I was just like and I was listening to a song and then I I muted it cuz I was like oh [ __ ] like I can’t have the song playing while I’m talking or whatever so I definitely saved it to make fun of you later on what I definitely saved it to make fun of you later on fair enough fair enough it probably does look crazy I just I you look like a lunatic what I I had no idea there was nothing in my mind that said uh you look normal yeah dude I thought you look normal you know you look like a crazy person apprciate the I don’t remember what you said I appre the save this just play it no no we talked about it too long to not play all right can we if we if we had a like goal can we can we play with the audience yeah yeah how many how many likes we at what’s the like goal let’s see 58 58 if we get to next time he’s not here are we gonna hit today what do you got 200 lot 150 I appreciate you looking out for me Spencer you’re my best friend here yeah I dude I like I was like what was that all right I was so confused from Euphoria if we hit 150 likes we’ll play the video deal deal sure why not yeah all right cool I’m his manager I’m his manager now 80 likes Need a Freak for movie 59 likes come step right up in a 6 foot free come on come on Amazing neck yeah I just want take Drake that thing and just sent it what did you dude I I can’t even remember what he did he like I don’t even I did the be from Euphoria listen we hit 150 likes we’re going to stop teasing we’ll just play it 2025 it’s protected through first through 13 if not already settled it’s obviously not s uh 2026 we’re protected through first through 11 2027 protect through first through nine it’s crazy we’ve been that bad and we’re going to be that bad they’re never going to get this pick yo Joel asked me earlier he’s like you got any hot takes like you know ask for topics I was like yeah piss aren making the playoffs for 5 years chill was my B aren aren stop it aren’t I don’t think that’s a hot take right that’s why I said too I was like I don’t know if that’s a hot take that’s not really a hot take you think they are Nick I just need you to trust me that’s all who am I trusting C hey report was say if that’s true if that’s truly how you believe then you should be trading K yeah that’s what I was going to say if you don’t think we’re going to make the playoffs in five years why do you have Kate Cunningham trade him now yeah huh case we do okay listen hey fellas I could be wrong OJ and anobi not thrilled with the what the Knicks are offering that’s scary I saw say like that’s scary and exciting for Pistons fans it is what if they off what if they offered him 40 million and he 43 okay I’d do 43 if2 I don’t know if 43 is going to be the difference to bring him to Detroit 4 we’re going to need to give him 47 close to like bi what bi wants he wanted 35 listen you take this 43 you shut the hell up how much of a disaster would it be for 35 well that was that was the report remember we reacted to it the report was that he’s seeking for at least 35 so what the [ __ ] were the Knicks trying to give him right or it we got like 22 bones how much of a disaster would it be for the Knicks if they trade RJ Barrett uh who else quickly and then they can’t resign they can’t resign OG that would be a classic James Dolan move that’ be a Nick’s ass move bring them in come on Tom that would be a Nick ass J and Tom goris are like so funny dman like I know the crazy part too is like a piece of me and I think we said in the air too respected Tom for getting rid of Monte yeah and making that that right decision but the other side of me is like oh [ __ ] he went over management again with his own choice like yeah did you guys see the reports coming out today there’s four sections in the front office yes that is scary I I’m going to try to find it House Divided there’s a four four fractions in the bus four fractions four four divided by trade Kade if there’s four if we have a the big white A Game of Thrones going on in our [ __ ] front office nothing will is Ed is Ed stefansky still working in the front office [ __ ] yeah what is wrong my bad bro I was going to go off so it’s got to be Tom the Tums Ed stansky and then new guy and then Trey and Company yeah yikes but that’s crazy that yeah yeah wow that’s crazy that was from Vinnie Goodwill of Yahoo who put that out there who plugged in by the way who is plugged in yes and he waited to drop it so he had that news to you know the what the [ __ ] are we doing man what are we doing this is why I feel they’re all they’re all in the front office like holding guns under the taable like who’s going to draw first every day is just a Mexican I [ __ ] hate this [ __ ] we are taking Matas and you will do nothing about it I kind of want to to tell him saying I kind of want to apologize to Mike valy like if that’s really how it is they should trade Kate [ __ ] him no they if they can’t even make like if there if there are four different factions in the front office of the Pistons nothing will ever get done what the [ __ ] does like what that that’s that’s the reason why I was giving Troy Weaver Bill we need Kendrick Lamar to come in and unite these guys dog we do have him at the lottery next year represent the Detroit Pistons who do you guys want in this draft class who is who is your one if they made that move to one who are you guys drafting I don’t care I want I’m in I’m on this factions conversation we need to have a Game of Thrones [ __ ] like somebody’s yeah we got to solve this [ __ ] ASAP expeditiously red wedding style no cap for sure dude they got to go I honestly like Tom you pay everybody let Treon Lon do his thing please that’s all I want you’ve seen what happened the past eight years since aren telling like come on dude that was a quote by the way too from the source there’s four factions in that building getting on the same same page should be the first objective yeah yeah it should definitely before the [ __ ] draft definitely before you hire a head coach what do we what are we do bro that’s like objective uh journalism that’s also like like shady like shading as hell not saying like shady is in the reporting or anything but like you know how journalists are supposed to be objective right and just state facts but no matter how you break down that fact no matter how you break down that fact it sounds so disrespectful they got to get on the cage they get on the same page man that’s that’s tough yeah League source told Yahoo sports recently there’s four fractions in that building end quote you think he got it from Monty no I think it was beforehand cuz there was there was also stuff that one of the bro we are giving this man $65 million to chill at home he better not be like throwing grenades on the way out I like that he did it if he did I wanted to know this I think it’s one of the factions I think it’s the blues they’re out there leaking news to the Press shout out to my WWE fans who’s pitching DX and NWO in the Detroit pitons front office right now I don’t like I feel bad for the kids like I feel like it’s like your parents fighting I feel bad for the kids think of the kids think of the players think of going into work and not knowing who you’re going to uh who’s going to be your boss this day Hell in a Cell like what the only one can make it out um I mean maybe it’s maybe he was given Lon the like the full full monty no pun intended like he was just like you’re making the decisions hopefully that’s the case there’s a press conference tomorrow 3:30 it be Monty and gors uh are there going to be four different press conferences there there’s a press conference at 3:30 no there’s going to be four people at the press conference and they each get 30 minutes to yeah they’re going to be at different tables yeah why do we never hear from AR tellum ever a tur we never hear from him at all and if he has such a big piece of the this front office why is he never speak he did a podcast last year I think he’s little I think he’s he did a podcast where he accidentally admitted that he was Dante he has a vinmo yeah I have a cash app I have a cash you’re breaking my heart Nick has a cash boxing either and we don’t care about but I’ll read this CU $20 is actually a lot of money so Dante 151 he’s taking a lot of stuff on X to I appreciate you shout out Dante 151 he’s a real one Ryan Garcia has been suspended one year by the New York State athletic commission sources tell ESPN while his decision victory over Devin Haney has been overturned to a no contest following the positive test for PD a Trin yeah makes sense you tweak it but PDS do make it crazy they make it hormones all over the place um four factions is insane four factions is insane but I want to know how recent was that quote because I can see that that quote being like four factions like one here’s Troy that’s one faction arm tellum he’s his own whatever re overextending gors and the the one I thing to is Monty because Troy didn’t decide on Monty he he wasn’t brought in on Monte I’m sorry Troy didn’t want to bring him Monte but that but he’s still kind of power kind of of money I’ve heard Dwayne Casey wants to be the head coach again you’re right Casey probably is one so I’ll probably let me do it again then Monty no no cuz Casey andoy are but if we’re doing some tea leaves if we’re doing some tea leaves almost all of the candidates have been on Dwayne Casey’s coaching staff just throwing that out there as a theory right now C for other jobs too though they’re deserving candidates I want to do that I I’m not trying to but but like what’s off the table what’s off the table when it comes to this that’s off the table though CU those guys are actually for other like jobs like the arm tellum stuff no but I’m saying like Ru like ruling out reading those tea leaves like reading into that could be wrong but I’m saying like you can’t like throw out anything at this point yeah I I guess at first everyone knew it was A House Divided we’ve all been say there’s too many cooks in the kitchen yeah I’m trying to decide whether Troy and Casey were part of the same team we need Kendrick to drop a meet the Pistons and it’s just like each verse is dedicated to each faction because Casey was brought in Before Troy last one’s got to be the K yeah Casey’s Before Troy then Troy now Monty think it’s the fourth one to be ownership I know the TMS are definitely a piece of this puzzle yeah [ __ ] up I don’t like them Boris Weaver Monty Casey yeah that’s probably what it was but Hey listen that’s why I want to know the timing of this quote cuz now I kind of feel like with the new reset with the you know you finally hired a president of operations maybe it’s a clean slate Caleb what do you think yeah I’m hoping for a clean slate I’m hoping everything turns around um but you can’t run a team when you’re divided into four look at the Lions people they have to run it like the Lions do everybody’s on the same page um it’s it’s a dumpster fire right now because at this point how could there be more factions with like you got two guys gone you know yeah I I I don’t understand it so I think I think it’s a clean slate I I like you said I would like to know who’s on whose team well the the thing is though the thing is though is that you can assume that there’s probably still at least like two or three factions because gors and the TMS haven’t gone anywhere so like there’s go like like you could be right that Troy and Monty were two of them but that still leaves more divide unfortunately and that’s like that’s the issue like you can’t have any of that you can have difference of opinion sure but there needs to be one collective decision or one unilateral decision maker rather than a collective because if you guys are just trading idea like you’re just we’ve seen it we’ve seen it one person wants to spend money one person wants to wants to wait till next year like one person wants to draft this guy one person drafts that guy the next draft it you can’t build a team that way you can’t I’ll be positive in saying this I I think that a pass quote cuz everyone gone how could there be those four factions I think moving forward it’s now ownership I think they got a Hunger Game in Lon I come back you guys finally tell me who the [ __ ] you want this draft I think gors and TM are separate I don’t want to if it’s the number one pick I just want to know who you want number one pick or tell who I want well let me tell you this first go grab your celebrities get your golf clubs pack them up in a bag grab your cele together and head on down to the randywise Celebrity Golf Tour how do you do so just scan the QR code above my head right there or you can join the Rand wi Celebrity Golf Tour grab your celebrties grab your golf clubs and have a hell of a Time wber Sports timy the game is one in the trenches and our Big Fellas don’t mess around the Woodward heavyweights on 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Caleb for letting us know but says uh ESPN sources the Detro Pistons had permission to interview Dallas assistant Sean Sweeney and Minnesota assistant mic an Nori for newly vacant coaching job Pistons are also planning to interview former Cleveland coach JB bicker staff who will be available to meet sooner than the rest what what’s the beef with JB B I just he just got fired with Cleveland and I just don’t think he’s a good coach I think if you look at the way Cleveland a good coach I I think if you look at the way Cleveland has collapsed in the playoffs now obviously they have a flawed roster construction but yes no but no man and he made it work before I don’t think I don’t think so I don’t think it was that hard to have a good a a good defense and a solid enough offense with two All-Star caliber guards one NBA caliber guard and two Elite big men as far as defensively in mble and Jared Allen I think it’s very very easy to craft a team that can win games in the regular season that way and crap the bet in the [ __ ] playoffs we I mean that’s how NBA is a talent driven league right but you know how I feel with the coaching but like what I saw with him previously I’m ready to die I’m ready to die I look at the pist be asking me questions Josh Smith Greg Monroe Andre Drummond I saw like that [ __ ] disaster yeah he had that same situation he made it work well actually to be fair I got a question why are you so mad yo yo yo who the [ __ ] is you to be asking me question that that’s the best jera life after death the Mad rapper yeah that’s from the previously I’m ready to die and then it goes um hey first of all who the [ __ ] is he JB bicker you know you I got I got John blae [ __ ] my [ __ ] more John Blaze than that it’s cool it’s ready to do that cool that all right cool it’s cool it’s all right I heard that ready to die [ __ ] but I got John blaz [ __ ] uh JB bicker staff I’m not mad Brandon dogs we interviewing Sydney Sweeney I’d be I’d go to the games if they hired Sydney Sweeney as the head coach as well I know Caleb would too with Monty out there it was no difference fig some out quicker than Monte did last like all right who’s checking in all right but jul does talk like that yeah I’m not mad at JB bicker staff it wouldn’t be a dream hire for me but I wouldn’t be angry with it I don’t I think it’s kind of mid oh would you like that you love that higher or you just like what J bicker stad I think he’s a good coach yeah would you love the hire for the Piston I don’t love any I mean like I really like the co get the talent bro yeah no coach can do nothing without that it’s true with a talent and at least pieces that at least fit like I can’t judge any coach fairly from that point unless you’re Monty you’re just doing like that level of stupidity BS it don’t matter to me it it really don’t I’m not in love with anyone but what I care about is acquiring pieces I’m asking you [ __ ] who’s the best guy in this draft I like Cody Williams for where the Pistons are picking for what they need I like Cody Williams he’s a 6’7 shooting guard he shot 41% from three he could play defense he obviously as the lineage his brother Jaylen Williams is a very successful NBA player for the OKC Thunder I think he would be a great fit for the Pistons I think he’d be a great fit for any NBA team and and this is a guy who could play the three he could play the two I would like him in a Pistons uniform that to follow up on that quickly cuz Cody Williams is probably in the conversation for my guy like realistically unless you trade up for re um Cody Williams also has good Intel like family like I’ve heard like good Intel from like the fact that he has he comes from a good family he’s like competitive like the other like intangible things we’ve heard on top of on top of who he is and if you look at his brother and I don’t like to you know do the brother counts cuz there’s there’s Lonzo ball there’s lamelo ball and there’s uh what was liangelo ball like and those were three very different outcomes so like I don’t want to put too much stock in that but the way that Jaylen Williams work to progress his game I think if you if you’re if you’re if giving those same traits to Cody Williams somebody that will continuously put the work in to progress their game I I I like that but I think Cody Williams is also a guy you could trade back and do that Chicago route where you trade back to seven or eight or nine or whatever and grab a future first who Trad up who’s trading up somebody that somebody that loves clinging or somebody that loves like again that’s somebody’s going to fall in love with those guys I’m telling nobody’s going to fall in love with anybody in this place not not to trade up for everyone always everyone always does not in this CL who do you think is number one the best by the way Nick Nick the athletic mock draft uh M I know dude I’m telling you it’s going to happen I’m going to blow my [ __ ] no I’m with you on that before before we do I have to mention this because uh I would be remiss if I didn’t mention it because his biggest fan works at the network this is not a guy I want fan he a fan he a fan for S he is a fan both fans honestly Ryan lens yeah Jared McCain is who Ryan Lance wants as as the fist draft pick that is uh his favorite player John McCain arguably his favorite basetball player of all time is Jared McCain uh so that’s who Ryan wants do you want to read this m he’s a shooter dude he’d be better fit next to Kade than Ivy I’d say I like I’m taking show is a [ __ ] show yeah we’re all over the place right what are we doing guys I just wanted to get that in before you ride the Matas draw up I would take Dalton or Reed Shepard because he desperately needs shooting I don’t mind Cody Williams at all I would rather have Cody Williams than dton why is Cody Willam Williams so low I mean why why don’t because he’s projected as somebody that’s essentially going like he doesn’t have the star upside like he’s projected as like you know the Robert comington none of yeah but you know that’s what this that’s what this draft is so like when people say it’s bad I want to clarify it is bad it’s terrible in terms of star and talent or projected star end Talent a lot of these guys though are looked at as these should be solid role players or maybe even borderline decent starters so that that that’s like the difference it’s not like this draft just has zero Talent it’s just the the ceiling of the talent is projected to be a lot Cody Williams would be my pick for the Pistons at five I I think he is one of the best two-way players in this draft I think he is the best or second best shooter in this draft and I think he fits perfectly on any VA team he’s exactly what the Pistons need he is long he he’s a perimeter guy he can defend out there and he can obviously shoot the blood out of the ball I think it’d be a perfect fit for this team I’m n with that who do you think is going to be the star of this draft CL I mean you want to you want to gamble on Reese’s [ __ ] just because of the tools he has like project but uh Ron Holland is uh someone that people are really really high on if if he puts it together and becomes a three-level scorer he’s got the tools physically to be a great defender um if he can become a three level score but I think that’s an issue that the pisses have run into you’ve taken guys like sadique Bay who should have just been role players and been like hey go be Paul George it’s like no that like he can’t be Paul George he can be a he can be sadique Bay a role player so I think that’s one that you know I wouldn’t necessarily love for the Pistons but I see why people like it because of the the quote unquote perceived upside um if R sh f a three would you make the trade yeah I mean yeah cuz I think at that point you’re talking like I’m offering seconds dog I’m offering seconds to move up two spots this [ __ ] give you 12 second round picks in the for real second round PS go like [ __ ] nickels dude yeah they really are although there’s been a couple to come out recently um all right I’m read this this read up Matas Matas builes am I saying that right yeah builes yeah 6′ n Wing 19 years old we talked about him before in the show too but he’s from the g leag tomm c is he really yes yeah Nick yeah next I’m saying that uh this pick is mock draft To Us by the athletic by the way this pick is a key swing spot in the draft League’s horses are struggling to determine the preferences of the new president basketball of operations tra and langon since he wasn’t running the show in New Orleans however the Pelicans have a history of taking long rangey players such as herb Jones Dyson Daniels and Trey Murphy that type of bigger wing also seems to be among the most notable positional needs for the Pistons sorry for stuttering there uh Matas ticks that box ticks I’ve never ticks that box at least offering positional size for the wing forward role players with somewhat similar profiles and last year’s class such as Charlotte’s Brandon Miller and memphis’s GG Jackson and Washington’s bow K with the and Whitmore put together promising rookie Seasons while flashing skills they didn’t consistently display in the pre-draft process no God please no no 26% from three all I got got to hear and that fact that he’s a TM client get this dude off of any single mock draft to Detroit if we draft him I’m going to blow up I swear it’s going to be insane boom he’s just going to spontaneously com going to comust I’m not doing it yeah like Reed Shepard Cody Williams those are the guys I’m looking at I like d connect a lot too D connect I wouldn’t mind either I would lose my [ __ ] [ __ ] with draft as well I’d be pretty [ __ ] I think I I really like Cody Williams though I think he’s a perfect fit he’s EX L what we need he is a 3 andd guy he at at his floor he will be uh I don’t know it’s hard to say but like I can’t think of it a three and D guy he’ll be an NBA player he’ll be what every team needs in the NBA so I got a question for you guys when we get back regarding one of these prospects Klay Thompson who is it I don’t hear now regarding Reed Shepard first dog bronie would you rather them drop draft brazus or bronie bronie bring LeBron bringing him Bron too it’s not bringing LeBron LeBron would make him force a trade I would rather have we could get someone exactly hold him hostage who the [ __ ] do we want from the Lakers did you see what Austin ree said that’s great he goes uh keep trash in Detroit when you yeah yeah somebody has some like com to the Pistons like I’m going to Detroit a Reeves yeah yeah I mean he already did that during the dra yeah guess what LeBron likes Caruso more than you anyway white boy damn you say that greasy on X or some [ __ ] he said at a golf say like Rick Ross W boy W boy I love that’s funny cuz well he’s probably not going to Detroit cuz me and spinny yeah complimenting his ass big boy we were calling him B for sure Cory Joseph looked at us crazy bro we for sure the reason why a re not going to Detro I guarantee you standing like five F feet away from us we’re like damn you thick boy big booty re during the draft he wouldn’t come here either we were going to take him in the second round he said he wouldn’t sign yeah it’s true he’s a picky little [ __ ] and I want him yeah and he’s never going to win a ring yeah you’ll never you’ll never live up to the white ego that that uh Alex Caruso did you’ll never you’ll never be Mike Miller you’ll never be Alex Caruso you’ll always be LeBron’s at least fourth favorite white guy [ __ ] it’ll never be Adam Morrison or whoever that Charlotte Birdman like come on you’ll never be Cody Zeller you scrub Kyle Anderson uh tell us about Swiss well with the first pick in 2024 NBA draft the Detroit Pistons select Swiss Insurance Woodward Sports and Detroit’s top pick for your insurance needs keep your current provider honest and price them 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door dispo Dash is diso your local canvas plug Nick you promis some figure it out did you figure it out I didn’t figure anything out but one of the biggest draft bust that we had was uh taking luk Canard over Donovan Mitchell but speaking of Luke Canard can Reed Shepard be a Luke Canard type shooter but with better defense and could he be a fit on this team at five that sounds kind of like what we need yes yeah uh Reed sheeper would be great I would love to get Reed Shepard at five I don’t think he’s going to be there at five yeah but uh yeah he’s he showed that he can defend at a high level and obviously you can shoot at a high level like Kentucky so how would you feel about that easy what no he’s a shooter we need shooting I just I don’t I don’t want to pick at five bro I don’t want to so you want to pick at one or not pick yeah I I want the stud or or team trade him for I’m team trade back now I’m team trade back so you can get something get what and get get a get a asset something Cody Williams and Cody Williams like I don’t think I don’t think Cody Williams is uh I think it’s a reach for Cody Williams to be taken at five as of now that seems to be the conversation because again guys like uh guys like Matas were projected as the number one pick at this time last year so you know the fact that he’s five again a team could talk themselves into that being like hey this guy would this guy Had a Bad season but he was a projected number one pick in this class and this class is a crab shoot anyways he’s got star upside so I think that guy Cody Williams is in that next tier right below that I think you can trade back get him and an asset which will help you down the line because you got to rebuild this this war chest of assets if you want to build around Kade and if they’re all the same level of like Prospect relative wise yeah then you might as well trade back and get an additional asset I’m with you I just [ __ ] hate the state of this team i’ I’d rather though trade the fifth pick for just like an outright good player but that just doesn’t seem like in the cards Caleb where are you at with Reed Shepard I like Reed Shepard another guy you mentioned that I really like is doton connect I think he’s I mean he I think he’d fit in just fine shooter for us but I I don’t like it we keep saying it there’s no reason for us to pick at five like we’re just going to add the only way you pick a five is if you trade Ivy that’s what I think it is yeah but if you trade Ivy it’s probably packaged with five to get something yeah iy’s not enough by himself right now but other pieces like yeah but you could get like two good starters that fit your team more for Ivy maybe like that’s what you’re looking at like I don’t know but I’m looking at or a starter and a bench player like some type of package guy think he is some type of package though sorry no you’re fine I agree with you I don’t I don’t think you’re getting two stars yeah no two stars was probably a stretch but a starter a a starting caliber player like just a solid starter and maybe some bench piece for Ivy I think that’s kind of his value right now and maybe you just do that and you move ivy for set the fifth pick in Ivy for a star you get like a decent player or two decent players and you go and you kind of go from you kind of go from there and you know use free agency and other picks or whatever to uh reassess yourself that way so I’m with you whether it’s Ivy Duran whoever you’re if you’re selecting that five you’re probably trading one of those young guys because then you got like what you got you got five guys on your roster that you put significant draft yeah you’re not going to run out there with Five Guys under 20 yeah not after what you saw it did last season your best can’t do I’ve been so I mean I I dove deep to the draft these past two years and I haven’t this year I I I just this draft class just ain’t sexy it’s not sexy and I just I don’t want to [ __ ] draft at5 bro I know I don’t either cashion and and I know we can’t make the move until draft if I’m not mistaken or can post Lottery how’s that work uh yeah so you can gree in principle but you can’t execute the trade because of the stiping rule with the Pistons you can’t uh you can’t trade this draft pick until draft night the ivy hate is unreal it’s not Ivy hate this is not going to fit not going to fit if you think it is you just I know I’m applying to this person I never respector takes Allan W says Chris you act like teams are dying to get Ivy but we’re not getting two players for him but again it it’s all relative like if you’re a rebuilding team you’re going to sell off pieces and get there’s going to be teams that are rebuilding if Atlanta decides to rebuild you could get bogdanovic the other one the the one we didn’t have and something for for Ivy and DNC ENT says not necessarily just Ivy we just can’t run it back it can be Stu Duren wisman someone maybe three gotta go wisan should not be on this team next year at all I think two of oor Duren Ivy Stu and Stu need to be traded yeah two of those four players need to be traded and you need to give veterans in here that are actually worth a [ __ ] not not [ __ ] Monty Morris not like you need actual veterans who can play basketball not eat up 15 mil in cast face for Joe Harris I I think two of those four guys need to be moved and you need to build your team around K cutting yeah and you can’t and and the two young guys can’t trade can’t be like Sasser and stew the guys who are projected bench players because then you run into the same problem of having to invest significant time in development in Ivy assar Duren and Kade I think at least one of those four have to go and obviously we know it’s not Kate so you’re talking one of those three I think have to go and then from there Stu maybe Sasser I guess but you got to get one of those for because those are the guys that you’re you’re investing significant uh time and development in TNC ENT I just relooked at our roster hoping to see hope I just got depressed again yeah it’s tough man that’s how I’ve gotten throughout the show slowly but surely like the that why we say Ivy is because he’d give you the most return out of the young pieces you have move if we trade dur if we trade Ivy and pick number five for an actual starter I lik her IV and five for a quality starter and then sign OG you got got Cade OG the quality starter Duran at the five I can see that working with something that’s where I would start if I was this team like I said it doesn’t have to be does have to be IV it doesn’t have to be Ivy but it’s got to be two of those four I don’t think you can run out there with that five again and expect anything to be different you need to shake it up it didn’t [ __ ] work speak uh Bren dogs talking about making Clips you want clip something about Ivy how about you clip before the draft and I said Ivy wasn’t going to fit here put that one out there too feel free to clip this wig I don’t want this this wigin [ __ ] is terrible I like I’m you get wig really cheap yeah but yeah but for three years no I think he’s got three years left on his contract yeah saying he he fell apart and some nasty rumors were spre spread about him that weren’t true yeah sucks yeah what I mean it was kind of our doing I know no I’m saying I’m saying people that work here yeah people clipped it that one blew up right yeah Milli millions of views sucks it just wasn’t would you guys take him it just wasn’t to not be true would you guys take him Wiggins yeah Wiggins yeah i’ take what would it take to get them Ivy that’s a great question what what would the Warriors want would you guys trade AAR for Wiggins what no no you’re no they’re getting rid of that contract’s always the first one yeah would you get rid of him is this the time you guys are going to do it that’s how am with I no I know I’m just kidding I just hope s can learn the only reason why I don’t yeah think that he can be a quality starter on a playoff team is because I don’t think he can shoot we got two more years left this contract for like 25 million yeah seems like a bargain how’s he from three-point I feel like he fell off last year 3 the finals hon just in his career he’s not really been yeah 35.4 he had one good run in a contract this guy how many games did he play 71 wow shot 36% from three did not feel like that it did not feel like that no yeah 3 yeah 36% previous year 39 previous year 39 38 33 I’d do that for sure AAR I just I don’t I don’t know man that personal reasons like that gets in the Ben Simmons Marquel fultz area and it’s just like those reasons no I know I mean if he played 71 games last year yeah but he was a shell of himself but he’s an NBA champion Chris dude so is Timothy mozgov but we’re not trying to break break the bank to sign him I’m down for kcp too by the way I would definitely kcp like I think at this point too you need like those the typ of guys you need I don’t know about Wiggins as much but like kcp I think be a culture piece they’re only they’re only good as fifth options fourth at best Brandon’s dogs bro y’all want scraps again that’s what we’re going to get we’re not going to just trade all of our [ __ ] and land a superstar we’re like we’re talking about we don’t want any of these guys we’re not going to get Superstars for her we’re going to get Fringe like Fringe guys like Andrew Wiggins or kcp like rotational guys that’s what we’re going to get we’re not going to land a superstar unless we trade all of them at the same time and wiggin’s at 25 million like that’s a bargain you’re talking about paying 25 million for um what’s it Claxton right now so would definitely rather have Wiggins than Claxton personally um I don’t know Aaron to the stone I think I agree with him the most as of all former Pistons I’d say I’d only want to bring two back kyp and Drummond I’m with them I would be happy with both those guys yeah drum and you can still afford to go grab a big piece Drummond play pay him the [ __ ] league minimum to be a backup I’d be fine with that can I negotiate below the league minimum below the league minimum I I would I would present that contract to him like this is the absolute we I just want to be clear this is the minimum you can make as an how about 20 an hour legally I cannot offer you lower than this saying mpj what Michael Porter Jr is who dad was I’m not I’m not mad at that but that you know again I not complete players I don’t want I think at this point I’ll say this and we see talk P move on from I don’t care either way but I look at what and it’s a different sport I look at what the the Lions did I feel like they brought the culture pieces in first and I know kcp is not the Superstar but I remember him being like spark light for us kcp is not a buz even when he was here yeah he not he was for the he streaky but he was a good player and then he gets put in winning situations he won a championship with the Lakers I think he said the finals record for three point made then he W another championship with the Nuggets that’s a culture piece at this point you put him on the you put him on this team with Kate Cunningham next to him instead of Jackson and you’ll see a better version of kcp yeah I think cure piece is what I’m looking for if you’re going to just go grab scrap piece tell us about the morning show Nick every single morning when you wake up if you are not putting on wake up Woodward you are doing it wrong make sure you wake up with Woodward every morning 8: to 10: a.m. live on Woodward sports check it out so just to get the heated steering wheel I also had to spring for the bigger rims yeah that’s how they get you those upgrades are caution noral like every time hey new car crew how’d it go this weekend I got a great deal on mine how I went to Randy Wise not those other guys they got me in a great new ride and they didn’t break my budget he could you pass me 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[ __ ] pointing towards this [ __ ] kcp at the trade for I mean we have so much cap space we’re going to end up with we’re going to end up with like my Lake monk Malik Monk and yeah and and I don’t even know I’m trying to think of some random ass player than Kyle Anderson and just win 12 games a man listen that’s the question that’s a million dollar question though is how many people do you actually want to keep on this team we like I said we should get rid of I’ll say two two of the five of the four players I named and the fifth I’m over it two of those five assets should be moved to bring in veteran pieces I agree well Caleb made a graphic today you want to say it for tomorrow oh yeah well let’s just save it for tomorrow you can’t oh no spinning tomorrow run it well you can do mine [ __ ] you you mi drunk as [ __ ] nope I think they’re the number one offense in the en fell we got I like do this cuz we it became conversational came with be when we did the receivers I know it’ be the same today cuz I I feel there’s almost an argument for everybody let me go first I call going first all right all right throw mine up there top 10 offenses by the way top 10 offens is in the NFL number one I got the Houston Texans I think the Houston Texans are going to be the best offense in the NFL I think CJ stra is going to win MVP number two I got the Miami Dolphins I looked over I was like yeah I cannot put these guys in in the top three number three there’s the Detroit Lions checking in obviously I think they’re going to be better passing the ball with Jameson Williams with better pass protection for Goff I think they’re going to be slotted right around where they have been the past two years number four I got the San Francisco 49ers obviously Christian mcaffrey Kyle Shanahan George KD Deo Samuel they have a bounty of weapons for Brock pie to use number five I got the Philadelphia Eagles adding a play caller like Kell Moore adding a saquan Barkley to go with two fantastic wide receivers the offensive Line’s going to take a little bit of a step back but I don’t think it’ll be too much I think they’re at number five number six I got the Kansas City Chiefs I I mean you got Patrick Mahomes you got Travis Kelce still yeah everybody’s getting arrested but Patrick Mahomes could throw to mailmen and they’ll still be a top headat offense at number seven I got the Baltimore Ravens you got Z flowers taking a step up you’ve got two fantastic tight end and likely in Andrews Lamar Jackson read option with Derrick Henry is going to be unstoppable so as long as those guys stay healthy they are going to be a top offense in the league number eight I got the Los Angeles Rams like you got Puka Puka you got Cooper cup you got Matt Stafford you added uh who do they add uh [ __ ] who do they draft what Corum yeah you added Blake Corum to spell uh obviously Kiren Williams in in certain situations so give me the Rams at number eight number nine I got the Green Bay Packers with Jordan love with all those young receivers I do think they take somewhat of a little bit of a step back with Josh Jacobs compared to Aaron Jones but still I think they’re going to be a threatening offense and then at number 10 this was between two teams for me but I went with the Atlanta Falcons it was between them and the Pittsburgh Steelers but I went with the Atlanta Falcons because I think if Kirk comes back he’s healthy they have a bounty of weapons they have one of the best offensive lines in the NFL Drake London’s a great receiver uh Kyle Pitts is a great receiving tight end they have a good two uh two-headed monster in bejan Robinson and Tyler alir and yeah Kurt Cousins will take him over the top if he’s healthy and ready to go one name in there I didn’t see should I wait no what name the Bengals you don’t think Joe bur and those offensive weapons are going to yeah NOP [ __ ] the bation is yeah uh I Ponder them but no they didn’t make M top either who is their who is their running back this year they don’t have Joe Mixon anymore did they add a running back uh I don’t know with those wide outs though they’re running it back is what it sounds like T Higgins sounds like they’re running it back with d but that’s going to cause a little dismay I would take those offenses over the Beng maybe maybe you could put the Bengals over the Falcons no pickings and Steelers that’s the Steelers I was it was between the Steelers and the Falcons for number 10 for me mhm but um Zach Moss who’s actually Zack Moss Z Moss is good Zack Moss is straight as [ __ ] I just don’t know what’s happening with uh T Higgins they did draft Germaine Burton though out of Alabama see what happens with that one however just as it was with the wide receivers the actual top 10 please Bang Chief number one number one you think the Chiefs are going to be the number one offense that P Mahomes Rashid rice Xavier worthy Hollywood Brown they actually got a running back to and PCO can’t catch a theyo last year I know he’s Good’s good yeah but the only difference is going to be Hollywood Brown and he can’t catch Hollywood Brown Xavier worthy he literally year two rash rice Travis Kelce Mahomes got it the things that made them the best offense in the league two years ago with Tyreek Hill they got it and it’s speed they grab speed I think Xavier Worthy is more than just speed I think he’s a lot of times these combines see they guy run the fastest 40 and just this is that they dissipate after that sounds like the opposite of what you were saying at the combat I say he’s more than no no no well I said that that’s statement that’s true guys who are in the 40 dissipate they usually do I wasn’t I think he’s going to be the first- round pick but what I say about him if there’s any team he goes to where’ll work out yeah can’t see Chiefs long behold it happened they acquired more than just him too number two the Houston Texans they have a similar offense offensive minded coordinator I should say that’s like the Detroit Lions that’s like Kyle Shan that’s like Shawn McVey it’s very exent oriented however the difference they have CJ stra yeah do he could drop back and make anything happen he really can uh he can break the plays down he doesn’t need everything perfect to go around him I think that’s a plus they have maybe obviously the Rams got St Stafford who do that a little bit showed you a little bit more Mobility last year as well but the Houston T Texans have all the cookings all the makings to have a top five top three offens in the league who am I to not put him in that conversation number three we agreed on this one Detroit Lions we talked about it yesterday is why this topic came up me a kind disrespect the line is number three man I think your two Gibbs him in the passing game involved you guys like Alvin Kamar I’m I’m I’m I’m smelling a little bit of that you got Dan C who was there with Alvin Kamar too by the way we have their version of Smash and Dash when we had Mark Ingram Alan Kamar well we got jir Gibbs David Montgomery number four San Francisco 49ers kind of disrespectful to put them this low because they’ve been that dominant for us in the league offensively for quite a while however I hate when people predict injuries I just don’t know that I just don’t know that uh mcaffry could keep up also you got a receiver and contract negotiations receiver contract negotiations you have a rook who you know maybe maybe does a thing but we’ll see Miami Dolphins go to be in the top five I don’t care where they are just got to be in the top five uh at six I the Philadelphia Eagles at seven I got the Green Bay Packers the Eagles if you want me to go do I need expound on the Eagles kind of good okay we all know that what are you wo woing about Bill’s at 10 the bills at 10 Josh Allen commanded top 10 offense is you think Diggs was the offense I mean I think a receiver with the offense they got your boy Keon Coleman they do but I don’t think I think Josh Allen’s gonna deliver James Cook looked pretty good year James Cook actually did actually start to look pretty good Nick oh yeah you gota get James Cook looked pretty good at the end of the year last year I will admit that but ah T’s a little steep for the bills I got Curtis Samuel as well Keon Coleman Curtis Samuel like Cur Samu Moll I actually do like M Collins I think this guy’s career is probably dead at this point but they got Chase Claypool as well Chase Claypool is a bum too donkey K Dawson Knox donkey K can take another a dog what do you guys think Keon Coleman’s uh sat line Looks like rookie year being the the guy in Buffalo 7 800 yards I was done I don’t remember the rest of my [ __ ] list L put that [ __ ] back up all right yeah no I got them um at number eight I had Los Angeles Rams our lists are pretty similar do you have the Rams in yours yeah where they where were they I think they were at eight they were at eight yes yeah wow got Rams at eight them there did you have the Ravens I did have the Ravens I think they were at nine that’s pretty cool or no they were at seven and the Packers were at nine you had yep La at 8 Baltimore at s Packers at nine yeah lists are very simple who got a right boys so T none of you guys have the B I know I like I like at scared to disagree with him even though he I I I like Atlanta a lot this year and he slid it in the top 10 so I’m going to go with Spenny I’m sorry and I don’t really like Buffalo this year also Nick I think both you guys lists blue just kidding I like the Bengals in the top 10 there but but I don’t really I like the bills over Atlanta’s offense I think the Atlanta hype train is getting a little too crazy so I’m going to go with ezy microwave Nick go ni I think saying uh I mean Atlanta has the pieces but I gotta see it like I’m not I’m not buying the whole Kurt Cousins thing at all so I would think the why wouldn’t you buy the whole Kurt Cousins because he’s coming off a major injury and he’s old but prodes nobody talks about how he coming off a major injury and he’s old think about Spartan dog bro planting your foot ripping it like Aaron Rogers least has arm strength when he’s ripping that thing Kurt Cousins doesn’t have arm strength though he got Aaron Rogers arm strength he does he’s got a stronger arm Rogers would he’s got a stronger arm than Matt Stafford like Kurt Cousins has a how are attached to his arm he is the best quarterback in the history that look at Brandon Harris mind blown he did not know the bills got Curtis Samuel I didn’t either I like Curtis Samuel so now you place them in your top 10 I’m not and you move the Falcons down and the bills and Josh Allen you call Josh Allen the best dual threat quarterback the league of the history of all time in the league of the history and they got your boy K Samuel and I know you got a fantasy B for C Samuel too I do have fantasy bu so you better put him in that top 10 boy CU a that enough honestly it makes sense like I’m not 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