Happy Hour: U.S. OPEN

U.S. Open Happy Hour presented by High Noon. A lot of news and notes to run through prior to Sandhills Native Michael McGowan hitting the opening tee shot at Pinehurst No. 2. The Buoy (and Gooch) might be out but the rest of the best are gearing up for a firm and fast test at Donnie’s place. We run down the odd’s sheet, make some picks and more.

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[Music] be the right Club be the right club today John me that’s better than most how about in that is better than most better than most expect anything different [Music] ladies and gentlemen welcome back happy hour edition no laying up live show presented as always by our friends at High Noon Sol is here the p man is here hasn’t been live with us in quite some time hello de great to be with you guys hello thank you for having me on your program uh what a week man we only get four of these a year we got a great venue I’m I’m chuffed buzzing the bullets back TC absolutely loving life I’ve been absolutely binging live from just had it on all day I’ve watched some of the same segments on repeat I’m not even I’m not even mad they’re replaying all these segments TC is here representing the do Kito on his hat hello Mr TC hello uh I’m waiting on my my core crun Shaw hat to show up or my my D my drss to show up yeah Hurst pops maybe I don’t know if you saw that one this week that was a good 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you to Hon for supporting all of our live shows throughout uh all the Signature Events major championships all that there’s a lot of them so guys we’re going to get into some stories of the week uh some Pinehurst updates it’s absolutely bucking from what we’ve heard uh let’s get to the bottom of that we’ll kind of sift through a lot of the comments that have come out this week we got a couple fun segments kbv is gonna pop in and talk a little Rory he did a little Deep dive on Rory’s 0 for 37 streak in major championships for some themes and things on that so close so close got some player quotes we’re going to make our FanDuel picks of the week Cody’s May doing a little Pinehurst History Section for us uh as well just notebook dump and get everything else out that we can go through a couple questions uh and kick it off from there but top news of the Week John ROM has withdrawn uh because of a toe infection or as Lee uh Neil has called a long time ago a leion 23 uh in between his small and bit uh two smallest toes on his foot um don’t have a lot to add here other than this is a major bummer and the we’re definitely all worse off for not having ROM competing this week except for J subber here here that’s a it’s a bummer man I I we don’t get to you know I’m not trying to throw any shade but we don’t get to see ROM as much as we as much as we uh used to and I love watching him in these majors and it’s been a significant bummer especially as Scotty just kind of lifts and separates and ascends it kind of seems like you know I was listening to the uh preview show and we talked about it a little bit on Sunday night that Scotty just really really needs like a a contemporary man he needs someone to go toe-to-toe with and like gosh Rah could be that dude and it’s been a bummer the last couple Majors to not really see him be involved so it’s another one that uh we’re going to miss out on just on a personal note I I like can you imagine the odds we could have gotten when we started first making those leion jokes that like rah’s literally gonna say this word and he’s gonna WD because of a lesion I just I don’t I don’t know what that would have been like plus 100,000 to try to get somebody to take that bet it’s just insane so art imitating life you know golf continues to have the greatest script writers in the game uh it’s just it’s incredible and if you missed it Neil like honestly called his team Legion 23 instead of Legion 13 like that was the The Genesis of this way back several months ago and uh yeah we did did not see this one coming so it’s an infection it’s not gout like bunky Perkins keeps saying it’s gout it’s not gas it’s not gout it’s not gas I wouldn’t wish gout upon anyone how did your foot get infected did he step on a toy or or or something I mean what is deal Ang from all that money I think yeah Cody said this on Sunday Cody you’re talking about you get these infections all the time I don’t know if he want to talk about that again Cody’s not gonna talking about my my foot hygiene for DJ you brought it up man you brought it up what an own goal by you show just bring them up show us your feet a little bit you guys have never had any like infection or anything happened on your feet before I’ve had some warts when I was a kid hey you know I had a big surgery last year harest all that so many viewers so pick up some different viewers though bab honestly what happened is blisters double blisters any little punctures in there where sweat just happens to it’s so easy to get infected in there and very very hard to keep dry and to clean out it’s uh it’s crazy that it’s in between there like I don’t know is you know I stub my toe sometimes I trip and fall on the girls toys and stuff like that I want to know how did this thing happen that’s what I’m saying yeah he’s happy though all right guys don’t ask him if happy or happy um other news as well Rory’s uh divorce is off or his marriage is back on um do not have a lot to react to on this one other than uh you know maybe maybe people thought he was going to get a boost TCI I believe picked him for not to win and then to win when he found out he was getting divorced at the PGA uh I don’t know if this shifts any any any line prediction for this week as well but uh happy for them that the that the their you know the divorce is off I don’t know how to phrase that properly but they uh um can’t make up his mind yeah you know what I was thinking about I was listening to the preview uh as I mentioned great job by you guys really enjoyed the uh the preview podcast uh you know what much like a kind of PE PE group here I I think I’m gonna swoop in and buy the block party as it’s as it’s at its lowest whole thing yeah I think I’m just gonna scoop I think I’m gonna scoop it up you’re stripping it down for parts or what are you doing it’s kind of a distressed asset I don’t quite know what we’re going to do with it yet but if if Neil’s you know gonna let it just go fow and and go waste then Cody get your ass back in here an activist investor Cody and I have kind of put together an ownership group and I I think it’s you know it’s the right time for us to make a move and and you know I don’t know that we’re going to have a lot to do this year it will be open I don’t I can’t speak to the experience fans will have there but it’ll be open and I think Cody you know we’ve got a nice ass out on our hands to going forward I am firmly I I’m I’m full-time second in command of the block party I I just want you to know like before you take the Reigns of this it’s a heavy burden it it weighs down on your shoulders there’s a lot involved and that’s what you know Neil his Tour of Duty just you it’s like the submarine life you know you can only be a subcommander for so long before you start to lose your mind and that’s clearly what happened to Neil now if I would ask him this is obviously before uh Rory figured out whatever is going to go on with his life turns out maybe he just didn’t want to sleep on the couch for a couple weeks because he he got in trouble or something realized that he didn’t have to get divorced who knows but uh you know I just want you to be prepared for everything that you have going on because I think Neil currently regrets the decision that he made with the new news that’s come to light yeah I mean who knows it could be like buying a bunch of Blockbusters you know and thinking you’re going to turn them around maybe maybe it’s a it’s a bet that we don’t win on but I think last week on G coming back around it’s a great course fit guys keep keep talking yourself into it yeah totally totally I also have a a FanDuel bet about him to make a bogy at number three we’ll talk about later but I’m hedging I’m hedging and I think we can all agree the biggest story of the week so far are uh exploding seats you know in the grand stands I know TC was absolutely chuffed and put my media hat on all your safety officer had on TC you’re just looking out for the people yeah I mean that was that was based on I got a sticker there uh that was based on eyewitness reports many reports uh many reports and the the Pinehurst members uh Facebook group which I’ve been as well so I know you’ve been a long time active member in talk about an activist investor uh yeah no so like this was a real thing it sounds like they’ve got it under control uh I do for those that missed it could you could you spell out what was kind of going on yeah the the seats were straight up snapping off that’s what I said I I broke it down that’s what more do you need to know de uh I guess it was a big issue over at the grand stand near like that four5 six like 3 four five6 crossing right there and then again over by 18 the bill out looks fantastic I’m not trying to take any Shine off of the USGA off of our good friends Pinehurst off of anybody it just sounds like they they you know Rome wasn’t built in a day Legion 13 wasn’t built in a day it sounds like this this buildout they tried to build it in a couple days and you know had had to go back and tighten some screws and recheck some things we had kbv out there testing them I believe just just like he was testing the trees back in uh after they fell last year at the Masters that block again I feel like much like uh much like Rory I’ve kind of ebed and flowed and I’ve changed my major championship prep over the years and and I’m kind of at a point now where you know Monday Tuesday I’m not even playing nine anymore I’ve I’ve got you know there’s so many stories there’s so many th people just wearing themselves out I’m seeing Charlie Woods as a player consultant people beating that one up I’m seeing these chairs just exploding I’m like a TC’s on that one I don’t need to I don’t need to worry about that you know it’s just you come in fresh you read every you get a cup of coffee Wednesday morning you read everything you can you’re you’re ready to go and and you go try to post a score on Thursday that’s that’s kind of where I’m at that’s that’s a take that I’ve been really leaning into this week is like I do not care what the golf course looks like like on Monday Tuesday like today I’ll start paying attention to stuff because otherwise I just work myself up into a fever pitch this week it was a good fever pitch because everything you know I like my I think my expectations might be for too much Carnage now now I need to got got to level out I got to level that out but uh you by this point in the Valhalla week I was despondent and ready to jump off a bridge so you know not just just the full level of of uh full full spectrum of midweek emotions it uh just for the record I’m I’m hoping everything’s okay I know you had we’re all every week’s busy TC I know but even privately have not gotten one message from TC this week in our slack about the fact they’ve been watering some of the greens fine they have to water them otherwise they’re going completely lose the golf course oh God okay Cody Mark that time stamp and and let’s save that for 25 years of Us open uh stuff just in case we ever need that sound clip ever again that’s fantastic got on that note Pinehurst I believe the phrase is Bucking uh wendam Clark said on Monday the greens are already borderline I’m trying to get to the bottom of this I’ve asked as many uh players as I possibly could of like hey you know I got other media members texting me like are you hearing what I’m hearing about these greens like balls rolling off them blah blah blah players are freaking out like is it unfair is it the consensus I’m getting is no that it’s not unfair in any way is this just typical pampered [ __ ] like trying to Lobby the usgaa to make sure they throw some water on them ahead of Thursday get ahead of it is this a is this a US Open Tradition at this point complaining early week about setup already I think so I think so blow Pig you know I mean especially if you if you really get down and think about it it’s like you’ve got guys playing full PJ tour schedules like I said at the front you only get four of these Majors Augustus loves to kind of ramp it up throughout the week and and then almost like taperback on you know depending on how the leaderboard looks the open championship’s never like crazy crazy firm or unfair just because it’s all dependent on conditions and the PGA is you know I don’t think we need to say much more about the the setup at the PGA so like it’s a signature event so realistically it’s like this is just such a rare occurrence I feel like for these guys so like go back Cody you recommended you know going and reading or watching the USGA press conference John Bowen Hammer had so many comments was like effusive in saying like we are taking more player you know comments and concerns into account we are going to be tough but fair we’re going to push it to the edge but we like everything about that press conference to me was just like we are not going to do anything stupid we’re not going to push it to outrageous outrageous lengths which you know we can debate how we feel about that but I I think it’s just going to be like they said it’s GNA be a tough but fair test and like that’s not something these guys see all that much so I’m with UTC that like I I almost had to temper my expectations because I’m like God these guys are complain compling so much this could be this could be out like 6:30 in the morning on Thursday like they could lose the golf course and I need to be watching this first thing and it’s like can’t set your expectations too high a lot of these guys are I think maybe just being a little [ __ ] uh and you know they’re kind of reacting to something they don’t see all that often I think it’s uh you know pace of playwise we’re talking to a couple guys are like yeah like disaster just awful awful practice around times and everything out there so I think they need to get through Thursday Friday my I think my issue in the past has been like LACC for instance it’s in the mid 70s with cloud cover like you’re not going to lose the golf course this is like it’s in the mid90s and it’s the sun is out and there’s a little bit of wind like yes like you can water it a little bit that’s fine it’s also a proper golf course like all the green like this there’s Short Grass everywhere you want it to play firm and fast but no amount of water is really going to take that much teeth out of it right yeah and you know it’s it’s going to be they can’t lose it if you don’t have wind right like I I’m just not they they can push it to a a pretty strong level if they really want to sounds like they already will bammer said they’re stiming about 13 and a half I think he like he said which is outrageously fast code if you can don’t mind showing uh John Wood was on live from earlier this uh earlier today and they flashed a bunch of stuff from from his yardage books on a bunch of greens uh and just showed like there’s going to be some conversations around unfair even from fans like watching some stuff of like the players have this information players and Cades have this information where you’re going to see balls trickle off all sides of greens M Thursday Friday Saturday and Sunday that you know what looks like might be a good shot might end up trickling all the way off the green but that is just because like they this isn’t going to be highlighted on the broadcast of like here’s where the actual green is and here’s where everything’s going to roll away right and so I’m really excited to see it it was a really cool image here of just saying like you know all these false fronts unfair blah blah blah it’s like no there’s a green there it’s just tiny the actual green is tin right and so much of the guy who’s going to win this like I see these shapes and I’m like Brooks man Brooks is really freaking good at hitting to the really really safe spot of the green now Scotty sheffler also is and I can’t get that one out of my head but uh this was just really really good content from John Wood and live from of of showing like Ho by hole these guys know what are the complete no-go zones and if they act stunned When A ball rolls off they should not be like this they they know exact this is exactly what the challenge is this week something else too that I think is different from maybe I’m not sure when this changed exactly but versus previous decades it seemed like they tried to ramp the course up towards Thursday Friday Saturday whereas now it seems like they try to go into the week with the course hey here’s what you’re going to see during the tournament days we’re going to get the course to like a nine out of ten of what it’s going to be instead of you know having them be surprised on Thursday morning when they Tee It Up and I think that in concert with that has led to more bitching and complaining because or it’s just more early week bitching and complaining right well there’s good question these guys are soft as [ __ ] too like let’s just some of them not all of them I mean like some of the guys I T were like no [ __ ] bring it on dude like bring it I I love this set one guy this is my favorite setup I’ve ever played right so like there it’s not like everyone’s just whiny and [ __ ] about it like it’s you know it’s just couple and and Windam in in his defense was not that whiny he just like made the point of like dude it’s already like I’m sure some of the the whole locations are using in practice rounds too are pretty close to some of those edges and and Border B like literally borderline ho locations just to stay out of the the me there’s not that much there’s not that much pinable space at 13 and a half on these greens to use so they probably saw some pretty extreme stuff in practice rounds what I always go back to as well and so I know you you probably think about this a lot too is like the the President’s Cup at Royal Melbourne like watching how befuddled those guys looked for maybe the first like two days like they’re such fast Learners yeah that like yeah Monday Tuesday they might be like holy [ __ ] this is different whoa this is and then by Thursday they’re going to be fine they’re going to figure out where to miss they’re going to figure out what’s safe they’re going to figure out what’s not and I still think like you know the winning scores going to be under par I think you know it’s not like it’s gonna we’re going to get into some world where it’s 12 over like winning this just because guys put it off the green once on Monday 100 per. and that’s again that’s I will say this on windham’s uh quotes that he gave he is kind of at a disadvantage there he’s admitted that he’s only played the golf course one time when he was here prior for the Us open media day and he of course defending Champion is the first press conference on the on the docket so I’m sure if you went back and asked him now say that well I understand that you know professional golfers they like controllables and this is something like this is a their new putting surfaces are different green there’s Contours runoffs all over the place they’re just not used to it and when you put like players we so used to being in complete control of how their ball moves everything they’re they’re like how it’s going they’re they they don’t like it and I think that’s the good thing about the US Open what the usj does is that they’re going to put them in uncomfortable positions and I think that’s the best part about Pinehurst is that part of that being in uncomfortable position is because the ball’s on the ground and it’s running and they don’t like it when it’s running because they can’t control where the outcome where it’s GNA end up at and can I just give a massive shout out as we you know hamst kickoff Hamsterdam for the week of like what they’ve done with Johnson Wagner and live from in all these player segments it’s been like that is serving the golf sicko right I I I’m not going to sit here and pretend like you just engaged every sports fan ever and like your ratings are going to go like through the roof like that’s investing in the product walking with Cam Smith walking with Harry higs Xander Max like you know I I I’ve run out like he he did so many segments asking how guys are GNA play chips I watched the Harry Higman twice today because I couldn’t turn it off I was like I I maybe I missed something the first time around like that’s the kind of stuff that you know we know they’re capable of and and capable producing Johnson so good at that it was Johnson’s Johnson might be single-handedly saving the channel he might be making it remaking it the Golf Channel you know what we’ll call it the Golf Channel this week because they’re they’re they’re covering some golf this week and Grant they’re not showing the actual golf that’s on USA uh but uh Mark R Wilson 77 said weather looks ideal this week firm fast and hopefully controllable by the powers that be if we instead had valhalla’s conditions how would that affect the open test would the core stand up are we too reliant on Goldilocks conditions these days for a great setup this was a great question it’s just like like I think even if it was drench City USA it would still be a hundred times better than than it was at Valhalla and that’s some of that’s the sandy soil and the way that the place can drain and play I played there when it’s wet I mean I was kind of confused with with havland saying that the greens are kind of soft and receptive which was strange I thought but Cody also I apologize to everybody Cody’s using that that weather bug thing all that’s to say the models are in alignment across so you know maybe a few stray afternoon Thunders showers Friday Saturday but the models are in alignment and everybody should be should be just you know the weather’s not going to be a factor there’s no need to drown the people in data unnecessarily outside of Friday afternoon gonna be just the hottest day of the week it’s going to be hot as balls out there so uh I don’t know astral Glide powder whatever you guys need to survive but it’s it’s going to be warm yeah the on the on the question that they asked to is like I think Pinehurst is a bit of a unicorn just because of the pins right and and it’s kind of one of those places that like depending on like the pin locations it’s it’s truly like a different Golf Course depending on where you want to put them I I loved I’ll probably reference it a couple times but uh Garrett and the fried egg did an Architects Round Table just kind of breaking down a lot of the different nuances uh sa you read a question during the preview show about like how do you know do I need to take notes in front of telecast how do I learn some of this stuff read stuff like that smart people talking about uh golf courses that they know really really well but they were talking about uh specifically the 14th hole and how that front left section is all plays at grade and there’s probably about 20 30 yards that like just makes that like margin for error so small and then just like as you continue to get further and further back on that green it’s almost like walking the plank like the the more and more narrow that green gets back there is like when the pin is front left it feels like a birdie hole and when the pin is in the back it feels like you’re trying not to make double and I feel like pineur has that on like most of these holes where it’s like man you can even if it’s soft even if it’s you know hot and wet and humid and whatever you can still put the pins in places that are just like really hard to get at and they might not you know again they might not be like 10 over 12 over type of places but they’re they’re not going to be 20 under either because I think to Mark’s question like this is not the perfect setup right they’ve had way more rain leading up into this than they had in 2014 they’ve cited that a couple times like I don’t I think we’re seeing like Pinehurst like withstand the weather they’ve had like it’s been good the last couple weeks but withstand the weather they’ve had so far this spring and present really well whereas Valhalla was just wet and there’s nowhere to go like there’s nowhere for that water to go it’s just not the same it’s not the same depth of venue yeah so like yeah bad design and also just like if you’re in a if you’re gonna be in a climate where you’re relying on the goldilock weather like that is that’s just a risky Endeavor right whereas Piner in the worst possible shape would still be a really interesting test like that’s I think pehur is the closest thing that the United States has to like true Championship Links Golf yes like you know whether that’s trun or burkdale or you know Hoy lake or St Andrew or whatever it’s yeah the greens are a little bit different or they’re a little bit more turned up in spots than a traditional lyx golf course but just the way that the way that it plays you know on the ground uh the types of graph it’s just it just feels a lot more lynxy than anywhere else that we’ve had an American major championship other than say shinok even shinok feels more through the air than this well it’s the soil again you can’t like we talk about the sand and the sand hills and everything else like that there’s a reason why you can get it that firm even with rain like I don’t think the having it being overly wet right now or more rain than I guess they had in 2014 is truly like a detriment because the ball is still moving and it’s moving extremely fast and I think that has allowed them especially on the runoff areas and like these aprons that they have to grow it up a little bit you know there’s more grass there than we saw in 2014 which I know we highlighted in the social video that it was awesome work by Ben putting it together but it’s going to make people like think about different shots instead of just pulling the putter out I hope it does like the more segments I watch that the more I’m like ah by the end of the week they might just be pulling putter I’m I’m that’s that’s my that’s one of my few concerns going to this I know that they’ve designed it this way to to make you think about more than putter but I’m I’m worried the guys are just going to end up there but well that’s that’s to be seen but um I mean you know if you hit it with putter like you could have it go all the way up there and then roll all the way back and you can’t you can’t spell roll back without rowack and you know you guys know rowack it’s best fit it’s best feel it’s summer we are liing in this stuff they just released their American Summer Collection C it is fantastic they got bathing suits now you can go straight from a hot day on the course straight to the pool uh the performance poos are fantastic they’re moisture wicking they got great stretch the collar is crisp it doesn’t lose its shape they fit way better than those old boxy polos they’re the best 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the GOL Golf Course uh you want can we run a couple quotes Rory had some interesting comments and Martin kimer had some really interesting comments as well we’ll start with Rory going back to last week at Memorial you know people hit it offline or people hit it green you’re basically only seeing players hit one one shot there’s only one option um and that turns into it being somewhat one-dimensional and not honestly not very exciting um and I think a course like this definitely uh demands a different a different a different skill set um and also some creativity uh and I think that’ll be on display this week and you I’ve already seen some videos online of people maybe trying Fairway Woods or having lob wedges or Putters or you know even if you you get half lucky and get a decent lie in that wire grass Sandy area being able ble to hit a recovery shot so um I think for the viewer at home that’s more exciting than just seeing guys hack out a 4-in rough all the time so um you know hopefully that that that comes to fruition and it and it is an exciting golf tournament man I just wonder how Rory gravitates towards these no l up and and fried egg you know podcast I don’t know I don’t know I don’t I can’t I can’t figure it out why you know I I think the uh yeah the what’s so exciting about that is like and this is pretty obvious but like demands to be kind of circled bolded underlined is like not only does the ball keep rolling like it keeps rolling and keeps rolling and keeps rolling the ball gets so far away from the pin if you miss here that it’s not just like little collection areas it’s like dude it can keep going for a long time because there’s been you know there’s only one cut out there right like there’s nothing really to to slow it down and all these things are pushed up so much in in most of the spots that like it it just oh it’s going to be the best there there’s no tougher combo I don’t think than like trying to to elevate something and then stop it immediately on firm fast screens is just the best anticipation is such a good word for this week because it’s anticipation of what your ball’s going to do as it’s on the ground and I think there’s also the anticipation of walking up yeah if you’ve missed the Fairway walking up to your ball and seeing all right am I boned here or do I have a shot um Martin kimer had some uh some quotes as well well um yeah play those I was a little bit overwhelmed this morning when I played the first 4 five holes um I said to my KY has it been that hard 10 years ago was it that difficult to hit the greens in the first place and then make the up and downs um because the grass is obviously is a little bit greener than 10 years ago it was very hard and very tight around the greens um so it was fairly easy to use to Texas wedge back then right now is a little bit more tricky cuz the ball bounces a little bit more around the greens so I found it really hard um the way the golf course played today and as you mentioned especially around the greens you know to make up and downs is it’s going to be a good challenge I love that that’s it reminded me of Phil when he when he like was tanking at the players that one year and he’s like did how did I ever win here like how did this happen like he’s clearly just uh a totally different vibe and feel for him I mean that was like such a massive part of his success last time though was like being able to put from everywhere and and if they kind of fixed that cheat code which like you said will remains to be seen whether that uh comes to fruition or not but if they if they fix that cheat code I think it the golf course a great Golf Course gets only only better kimer is also awesome to to listen to he’s so underrated and that was like my favorite part of that 2014 uh US Open was like every day he had to come in the media center because he was leading wire to wire and by like Friday Saturday he was just like d i I don’t know like what else I can I’m trying so hard to come up with new ways to explain like why I’m playing so well I just don’t have that many more answers to these questions and also English is my second language yeah exactly always love hearing from the captain TC I know and I agree with you that that uh you know you might end up seeing a lot of Putters here I think the the biggest thing that’s different and I’ll say this from my local stance and I’m very very fortunate that I used to my next door neighbor used to be the head Superintendent at Pinehurst he retired the house the guy that purchased my house when I moov shot at part had to the current head Superintendent at Pinehurst uh in 2014 they not only rolled the greens they rolled the false fronts and they rolled the approaches they wanted to play it so people could play the ground game and and get up there because they were so worried about how they were going to react coming from 2005 to 2014 and it being so different to all of them so they rolled it and they made sure that it was extremely smooth I think that’s going to be a huge part in this as well because you’ll see sometimes they’ll roll up and get over these these false fronts very very smooth and sometimes they but you know bounce up down left right you name it uh I think that’s just gonna add more to it very grain dependent too well listen guys we we have somebody on the ground he’s been on the ground this week he’s he’s seen more of the golf course than we have and he he wrote a piece that went up on no l up.com about uh Rory’s last 37 attempts at major championships which have not come uh with a title that’s Mr Kevin Van valkenberg of course kvv joining us live from the media center hello Kev how are you buddy I’m like Martin kimer I don’t know how to keep talking about these bangers I keep writing D I mean just got nothing to say but like my humble self guys I’m reluctant to report just came in from watching kimer and Rory play a practice round using a lot of Putters uh and doing it effectively so I would not get your hopes up uh you know they the first choice is always the Putter and I saw a lot of bows roll right towards the cups or the pins and then they would go back and kind of humor it and get a wedge out but uh I think they’re going to putt it I think even though like even with the putting though it’s a little bit different this year because it’s Bermuda greens it was B greens last go around there’s more there’s grain there’s Dow grein there’s I think I just like there’s more variables uh we’ve seen Tiger Playing with the the four iron there too he’s been bumping that four iron around Victor seems like he wants to play lob wedge who knows what Victor wants to do get Victor Victor may not know even tonight he may choose something different in the morning wup session so I I think that’s what’s so cool about this though too is like what isn’t that the rule of thumb like if you’re trying to Hole it you chip it and if you’re trying to you know T putt you use the putter so like may maybe when guys start to feel a little stress or they they you know we still might catch him with their hand in the cookie jar let’s not lose let’s not lose hope yet so you look back at the last 37 Majors Roy played from when he won Valhalla in 2014 uh all the way up to last month’s PJ championship of Val Hall you end up writing I think 9,000 words about what unfolded during that decade why why why why did you do this why would you do this to yourself and to all of us let me do this uh you know what I thought this would be a fun exercise just to sort of uh you know write a few little Snippets about each major and I so I kept going through transcripts and I kept going through newspaper accounts of anything and it just kept getting larger and larger and I was like oh this will be fine and then I got to like 2019 and I was like at 6,000 words I was like what the freak happened here but uh honestly it I think it provides like a really interesting historical document of just how many different ways Rory has tried to get out of his own head whether it’s different coaches whether it’s different swing techniques whether it’s different mental approaches whether it’s juggling or meditation or being super aggressive or being conservative and smart he just cannot seem to find one way that works and so you would say on one level like well at least he’s trying different things he’s not just beating his head against the wall but when you add it all up it’s the volatility that sort of comes through that most that he just does not have a consistent sort of approach it’d be like someone playing Blackjack and coming up with a different strategy like every single time honestly sounds the way like I approach every round of golf like oh this is my swing field now nope now this is my swing feeli now nope I got it I got it I I think it speaks to also KB I mean I know you kind of spelled this out up top but you could do this for any player but man like really zooming in and zooming in and zooming in and zooming in and just being like here’s how many flights it was here’s how many practice rounds it was here’s how many nights in hotels here’s how many night when like in the back in the back of his head is just like God I just want to win a [ __ ] major uh with like doing all of that stuff was just it was really great that was shout out to my editor Chrisman for uh for helping me think through that part because that was an excellent addition there at least 259 nights in a hotel just over those Majors that he hasn’t won I was trying to do the math on that though I mean he came in if he came in a day late to Augusta that it’s only 258 or something like that well technically two it’s 30 six Majors that he played in it’s 37 if you count the old course one that he missed because of the ankle but Jordan and I discussed that kind of at length and like I feel like that’s a Miss like that’s a an opportunity that only comes around every five or six years you get to play the old course you’re always going to be like one of the dudes there and so I think we kind of ultimately decided like to kind of count that amongst the the missed opportunities Majors well I think it you know reading it too it kind of comes it’s pretty obvious like there’s only been well how how many close calls would you say there actually were times where he was in contention on Sunday of of a major I mean there’s 2018 Masters um I mean you just you went through them all what a the one of the close calls in kind of it’s kind of Staggering just to look at that out of 37 misses what’s interesting is he doesn’t even count 2018 Masters as an actual close call because he was essentially out of it by the back nine you know he he had that eagle putt on two that would have tied him for the lead missed it and then it was like it all kind of came un glued from there bogey 3 never really totally weird day kind of surreal being on the grounds that day he so 2018 Carusi he was tied for the lead with uh with nine to go Us open at Brook line he was in it but not super in it uh US Open had Tory definitely like a shot off the lead with nine to play and then St Andrews the 22 open and then the Lac that’s really it in terms of true actual like I was in the fire with nine holes to play holes you can kind of expand the map a little bit and and there’s other ones where he had two good rounds and then kind of fumbled it in the third or he know was just kind of hanging around the lead but never really that serious I mean you could go back like even Chambers Bay 15 he’s he’s within three of the lead at one point but never really felt like he was super In Contention there just didn’t put himself into contention enough times right it just he needed more more reps so famously at the PGA Championship in 2022 you wrote off Justin Thomas uh he came back and and won that one you uh did a big deep dive onto Victor havin ahead of the PGA last time around he almost won that one uh do we have like a reverse Jinx thing going here with Rory is there is there hope to be had here I never like I said I don’t want like talking about my fund and how we make our investments but I obviously knew this piece was coming and and you know Cody and I figured this would probably be a good way to maybe get ahead of the markets knew KBB was dropping a big Rory bomb you know s used to talk about the nlu podcast bump a lot of people are saying the writing writing is coming back the kids are they’re all trying on different writing they’re getting it at their retro shops around here it’s it’s the new thing so maybe popping in a Zin and then just starting to write exactly exactly she lamb lams into the Zin game TC I don’t know if you saw that post day he’s he’s like discovered Zin it’s crazy anyway uh I think there’s a chance he could play well here who played well here in 14 uh I don’t you know in all seriousness like I don’t think he uh I think he’s very much in his own bubble right now he’s not looking at social media he’s not chatting it up with the media during practice rounds he’s just kind of uh locked in I I listen to him talk to Martin kimer for a while about thank God Liv came along to bump all these purses but the model that we have now is totally unsustainable and sponsors are pissed and TV’s pissed so you’re still it’s like funny to hear him talk to a live player about Dick Rider what’s going on on the other element of it and how you know I I I don’t know and it’s hard to know what his kind of mindset is but uh he he’s seemed to be hitting it pretty darn well in the practice round like he’s absolutely murdering driver in a way that looks like Greek gods throwing lightning bolts but that’s never changes everything yeah changes gosh Wonder I’ve ever seen that before calculus K do you have like a gold medal on like that kind of looks like one of those Olympic medal it’s just a c those ribbons that you would that you would it’s so thick that you would put a metal on the Bottom olypic t they gave after this Rory thing thank you thank you for everything you do live KBB the uh there’s there’s some unofficial media Awards uh taking place on H Friday I think it’s kind of like the Michael Scott Olympics and the office episode we’re GNA Crown various members of media Joel Beal and Shane Ryan are kind of running it so I’m very excited about that’s it’s kind of the thing I’m most excited about the week see if I can squeak in and get an award so perhaps these will be kind of our badges for those metal things no this is my uh also people are asking if you’re trying to grow the game with your hat yes uh this is you know what so I’ll turn this around real quick because I got some comments from people about how I was trying to look young and I was basically like no this hat just sits up too high on my head it makes me kind of look like an idiot so I had to kind of flip it around and just hope that that was uh you know not me trying to look like you know a hipster dad but uh yeah that’s uh I don’t know I might have to go back to the yeah exactly K let’s we’re gonna we’re gonna get you out of here me on this any anything else on the ground stick out to you that’s uhh worthwhile of note that could inform viewers before they turn the TV on tomorrow uh it is hot so at least the you know the cat’s body won’t need uh sort of time to to get warm I think there’s a lot of sweat going on out there that’s uh going to be you know interesting I mean uh talk to ZB real quick on the Range TC before got kicked off The Range this morning he said said hey what’s up he was striping it I if ZB is ever gonna finish top 10 in a major this would be like a great opportunity right like same thing he knows the course like really well this going to play to a lot of his strengths some of the you know stuff that so that would be kind of a this is not gambling a advice but that would be a fun kind of thing to watch latek well we’ll send you on that on your way and we will we’ll get to our gam hug advice which really isn’t advice it’s more for fun and whatnot but you can check out Kevin’s writing all week at no lineup.com he’ll be popping into our live shows as well enjoy the week jealous we’re not there but uh we’re we’re happy to have you there I’m excited to hear from you this week thank you boys crack on shout out to his family couple more things to get to but first let’s get to our FanDuel picks of the week one pick one play can be anything from the FanDuel sports book of course of course we know this odds are subject to change first up DJ Pi what is your pick of the week yeah like I said I’m I’m looking to hedge I’m looking to get my money right here and just make sure I’m covered down uh third hole is my favorite my favorite hole like honestly top 10 favorite holes in the world I absolutely love playing it I love watching people that are much better than me playing it I love watching people just like stick their hand in the cookie jar and and get shot in the face uh it’s it’s just it’s great uh and so as much as I you know would love to see Rory play well uh I also know that he’s had some trouble with you know distance control in the past he’s hit it into some bad spots particularly wedges uh maybe gets a little overaggressive with the driver I just at plus 750 Rory to make a bogey on number three in the first round is kind of one of those like just let’s let all the air out of the balloon uh of course this was going to happen uh sort of sort of bet so that’s what I’m looking at is Rory bogeying or Worse number three and round one at plus 750 maybe a couple nuggies on that get your week started I don’t know hate this I just means hate this what you spirited it’s just me just cold blood pretty good odds on that that’s what I’m saying it might be for all we know I just just seems it seems beneath you um I’m going a different route I uh also I hope everybody has fun but they didn’t have that they didn’t have that up at the time of pess this they they did because it my bet is pretty much are we having fun or are we not having fun out there because they have an over under of 274 a half for the winning score uh that is five and a half under par for those doing the math at home excuse me that yeah it’s five and a half that’s right I’m going under I think I think Scotty’s gonna win by four or more and I think it’s going to be at six under or better um I think he’s going to be closer to to eight or nine if not if not 10 uh underpower by the end of the week but I I think the scores will be lower than you know all this talk of Carnage just the fact the wind’s not going to blow I couple guys are going to take it relatively low so that’s my that’s my pick of the week minus 150 you got a lay but I I love that one TC I got it before you you spell out yours uh Graham linger in the in the comments was wondering if there’s a possible all cleaks parlay out there which would be such an epic bet to try to gety was in the field if Blandy was in the field we would do that but uh I just I don’t know how [ __ ] fits around this place I don’t love [ __ ] stroke here uh listen we did our preview show earlier this week so a lot of a lot of my picks are there a lot of my plays are are there we’ve got two nlu featured bets that uh you know are featured in there that we have not spoken of yet so I’d like to go through both of those I’m asking your permission s May Pi first your pick first as the as okay the producer for Cody the producer your pick I’ve got a twers parlay here and it’s it’s it’s it’s a multi-state multi- league parlay Tiger Woods to make the cut I think tiger makes the cut I think this is this is a goldilock situation for Tiger uh it’s going to be hot but I I think tiger if there’s a course that I think if there’s a state side course other than I would say even more so than Augusta that he can compete on it’s this one I don’t think he’s gonna top 10 or top 20 but I think he’s I think he’s gonna make the cut just through guile and guts and he’s not driving the ball poorly uh it’s this one so I think it’s that plus Nelly to win the LPGA event this week which I think she won back in 2021 so she has a good history bet right yeah that’s fun that’s a lot of a lot of fun stuff to root for yeah yeah and then I and then I cooked up a uh you know top 40 a rick D’s parlay uh as well so you can Flash that I got Justin low Harris English sth uh SI guy foxy Adam shank web Simpson and Cam Davis all to finish top 40 thought about throwing Harry higs and ZB in there too but uh it was just getting a little unwieldy and this includes ties so if you throw this in you know to without this part parlay if you just throw it into the thing that those don’t include ties this includes ties which is very important you not want to get cut down on on a top 40 parlay there’s a lot of other things that TC had to that he we’re just cutting them short on time but if anybody wants to they can go to FanDuel sports book they can check it out there uh underneath US Open special US Open tab you go over no laying up specials we got everything under there from the preview show uh the two that TC just mentioned check them out but of course odd subject to change uh we’ll be running back all week we should get a whole micro set like a micro site just set up it’s just a link you know TC’s just streaming on his phone yeah just kind of throw it out like I you know don’t forget about this guy also love this guy all right couple couple fun seies or questions here to get to uh before we go to rap DJ sent a bunch of these over earlier but I love this one what’s your guys what’s your favorite US Open specific word DJ I’m GNA go to you first on this one uh I mean I feel like I’m going to take the best one and I feel bad cuz it’s my segment but I’m going to say syringe like I have never heard any anybody ever talk about syringing the greens outside of the US Open it makes me laugh every [ __ ] time they do it uh we’re just we’re right on the edge we’re we are syringing the greens and it’s just the perfect example of like you know I would do the same thing if I was in their chair of course I’m not throwing shade but you know you’ve got like Rich learner and and brandle and these guys like it’s just so clear that you’re like taking words from one person and then just like repeating them on air you know know like nobody you you can’t read a press release it’s like they’re syringing the greens and then say like oh they’re putting a little water on the greens they’re just like no they are syringing the greens we have received word they have I don’t know what the syringes are but they’ve got them out they are syringing the greens it’s just it’s the best I love it s’s familiar with syringes from our Australia season and from his fantasy baseball team yeah those are just straight needles all right guys they’re not syringes but TC uh mine is green section it’s not green section it is green section and this is of course their their Agronomy arm that you know they do all sorts of testing and and research and all sorts of things but that’s really good just the fact that they call it a the green section like was there a part of the office that that they wor green every day they’re they’re the agronomist so you just you just lovingly refer to them as green what like where did that come from I’m sure Wolfie will will text me in the next six minutes of with the whole whole history of it but uh yeah green section that’s good stuff I I think I’m kind of cheating because it’s more than one word here um and I didn’t I didn’t know how to how to drill this one down any tighter but it’s momentum the momentum par right like the 10- foot like in a US Open that that par putt is more important than a birdie putt a lot of players will tell you that was more important for momentum to make that par putt than it would have been to have made a birdie on that hole that will come that will come by by 9 before 9:00 a.m. tomor morning but that’s my favorite US Open thing a distant cousin of the eye test I I thought when you said two words you were gonna go graduated Ruff which is another that was kind of second on my list no they’re not gonna have Ruff this week uh that’s US Open you know us open thing leaderboard gravity I was gonna go with at one at one point and the edge honestly are they on the edge are we on the edge line line the line did you guys see a friend of the program Smiley actually tweeted out all the the the native plantss that they they want to have referred on The Telecast this week you know what as as someone who supports the green section you know what was conspicuously absent there Bermuda grass as one word this is I think this is just the wire grass I think this is just like all the the native vegetations Native North Carolina that is the grass that they’re playing on that is a plant as well that should be listed it doesn’t differentiate it just says plants Pioneers number two didn’t you just plant a whole big thing of slender vervaine in your backyard slender veran I don’t know what that is oh maybe maybe I’m thinking of someone else it was woolly woolly Croton I think is what you were putting down sorry um what is I’m gonna ask you guys what is the worst possible place to miss on pineh her number two what’s the worst spot why don’t you why don’t you start with this one I got I have two nominations I can’t pick between either one of these just because I I I don’t know they’re the worst places misses but they’re the worst places I’ve been uh which is long of number three um it runs off it runs off back there and it ends up in that little like path area that is not relief and it’s like just like dirt that’s below the soil level and you have absolutely no shot you can’t this image does not show off how severe everything is from back there you’re making seven from back there and the only other like worst options just if you keep going and I’ve actually been in this spot while playing the third hole as well but left of five uh like uh below the green on five is some of the grain stuff absolutely impossible down there but the worst possible spot here might be right of five because you’re probably hitting the next one left of five uh you’re just playing one extra more shot like this these are some of the most diabolical spots on the golf course we will see look at s pulling a TC picking picking four or five spots making uh I I will say we don’t usually get like you know we can’t always show off the shots the pros might face quite as well as the pros themselves obviously but uh Ben and Neil did their Pinehurst match uh out there a couple weeks ago and and the videoos up on our YouTube channel go to the 545 Mark if you want to see that that behind number three section because they they both hit it back there and it’s just kind of grab your popcorn and like there’s no way you make less than like five or six it’s so sick uh so you kind of you kind of pissed on all the ones I was I know sorry I got too excited guys I would say this is maybe more of a meta one because it’s not quite as bad but I would say missing the Fairway at number one just like really makes you start to spiral you know again I was reading that architect’s round table and Rob Collins uh friend of the program did a great job spelling that out and writing of just like how like that t- shot’s so easy it’s so wide it’s so flat there’s no big hazards looming but like the last thing you think about every time you pull the triggers just like [ __ ] man do not hit this left like God what if I what if I smother this I could hit it over the road and then you usually blow it right and then you’re behind the eightball and then you got a chip back and then you hit a bad wedge and you just can make double so freaking fast so there’s no better feeling than like hitting the first Fairway hitting the first green and just like making a big exhale so I’ll say left of number one I would say uh I got a couple here somebody mentioned rig’s Cottage you don’t want to blow into Cottage on like top it off the TX or two yeah whatever that is I saw I was laughing my ass I thought rig’s posted a great video about that about the scoreboard right outside his house oh yeah keeping him up great come on man it was like the Seinfeld Kenny Rogers roaster episode he’s just got this scoreboard right outside his house it’s blinding I think uh I think short of short and long of nine are both brutal like you can start Ping ponging it back and forth on nine you can start doing that left and right of eight like that’s not fun and like they’re not necessarily the worst spots but there’s spots where you just start developing Scar Tissue here and there I think 13 same thing like similar to what you were talking about s like if you miss short on five you know it’s rolling back down 13’s the same deal um and then I just think worst spot on 15 Cody short long left right like all are just awful I guess yeah that’s true yeah honestly it’s so weird at pineur uh if you’re short of any of the greens that’s like the best spot that you can possibly be totally y uh like it for people they’re going to miss Fairway and I know they’re going to get out there and it’s a crap shoot because of all this wire grass if they’re going to have a swing or not but instead of like going at the just literally aim for the front of the green it’s the safest spot to be on number two yeah the one shot that just like keeps me up at night and you know I’ve played it from three different T boxes there but it’s trly like s going back to our match at Royal Melbourne where like I felt like I didn’t have that shot on what was that on 16 the par three like I I I stand on the T on six at Pinehurst number two and I’m just like I don’t have this [ __ ] shot like straight up like I just like I don’t I don’t have it I don’t well the most underrated part about that shot too is like it’s the first part three so especially for recreational players if you’re if you’re driving it Wayward at all it might be the first like perfect iron shot you’re hitting you know Cody I think you you said that I remember the first time we went around there together where it’s like you’re you’re banging around in that right rough left rough you’re chipping up you’re hitting wedges and then all of a sudden it’s like oh god I’ve got like a seven iron it’s like totally unencumbered like there’s no excuses to miss and it’s like terrifying it’s so uncomfortable the best [ __ ] rule I know the best compliment I could pay Pinehurst is like dude I would be so I’m I’m hitting kind of good right now I would love to play this place right now and if you’re hitting it bad is just like no no no no no no no no no no no no like you would be so exposed so fast it’s just a awesome freaking test what’s the worst ho of Pinehurst like I can’t I legitimately can’t was it 10 probably it might be 10 I think that’s fair we have we’ve we’ve been on the show for 50 not the original 10 Hole by the way yeah like on record just go we haven’t mentioned this guy’s name somehow and hour we in L we talked about him plenty on the preview but just straight up Point Blank TC do Scotty Shefler win does he win uh I think he does DJ I think so yes Cody yeah I think he does too I think I think it’s I think he’s going to beity like yeah it’s going to be quick it’s going to be quick like it’s it’s going to happen quickly I have a feeling I think it I think it could be one of those ones too like the way that we have all talked about like the most impressive tiger victories when he just is constantly hitting it to 15 18 20 25 feet on the safe side and it just gets like more and more fun to watch him kind of like hit safe shots I I I think that’s what we’re in for I hope that’s what we’re in for it’s also just that reminder of like oh yeah when he does Miss greens he’s the best at around the greens like it’s just um uh over under for tiger and round one on FanDuel was 73 and a half I know what TC’s taking because he’s got him to make the cut uh D where you taking yeah I’ll get i’ll get swept up in that I’ll take the under I think he’s gonna be you know I think he’s gonna be crafty I think I I I can’t wait to see him like bump some shots around the greens those are always fun shots to watch him hit you know hitting those Little Nippers and scooters it’s also wild that tiger you know he didn’t play in 2014 but his quote about like oh yeah like I I you know it’s the same course because like the Fairway lines are still the same so him visually when he steps up on a t box he’s like oh yeah nothing’s changed like I still I still see the exact same thing that I saw in 99 and 2005 you’re like Whoa man like there’s so much other noise going on that everybody else pays attention to and he’s like no the the fairways and the greens are still in the same spots just GNA throw cold water on all this tiger stinks at putting now he’s not a good putter like we don’t he does not play enough golf to be like a competitive Putter and these greens are going to be so difficult I’m I’m going over I I’m not feeling the cat this week so not the rain on the parade but just his irons are still good though maybe absolute hater maybe I mean they weren’t good at PGA like that wasn’t good uh you’re you’re you’re off of tiger I’m just just moved on like I just I just don’t I don’t see how he can be competitive uh with this few reps in between or no reps in between so and then uh fandel also had a 72 Hall match bet between Phil or tiger Phil is minus 130 in the 72 Hall match bet that’s a great bet they get so many good picks it’s such a good course for Phil like with the imagination and the Artistry and just it maybe too much imagination around the greens right but oh that I was I was there were there was a moment this week where I started talking myself into Phil I didn’t quite get there I think if it was a I think if it was a three- hole Championship I could I could see it you know if it’s like hey everybody’s going to drop a ball in this right rough we’re going to see who can get up and down I I might give Phil a look at that but 7 championship against I’m like yeah no I don’t when did he win the PGA like three years ago it’s it’s true I mean TC A lot’s happened man lesions and breakaways and framework agreements and 911 family there’s just a lot of [ __ ] that’s happened since then yeah Jay still has a job it’s crazy um just want to want to put this out there NBC we are watching um pulled up some of the old data from Cody um from last year he said uh he he sampled a one two Eastern to three Eastern Time on USA last Year got 1935 uh in 19 minutes 35 seconds in commercials that’s 55 ads in total um they’re claiming to give us two minutes back out of almost 20 minutes is um is just keep an eye on that as uh if they’re gonna if they’re gonna promise US you know this if they’re gonna brag about cutting down commercials just we might be having a timer on that I I don’t know FL you’re a hockey guy we’re gonna put you in the Penalty Box for two minutes if you don’t give us our two minutes all right we’re going to get cocked down the next couple days on we we’re focusing on the positives guys come on we are focusing on the POS be a great week it’s goingon to be a great week uh I hate to we’re trying to keep happy hours to an hour or less Cody I’m gonna have to bump your history lesson lesson will say I almost said leion your history Legion uh we’re GNA save that for Thursday or Friday depending on if we get some action here look we a lot to talk about lot going on here um thank you everyone for tuning in thank you to high noon thank you to roback thank you to FanDuel TC Cody DJ everybody that tun in live gosh we’re going to have such a great week we’re going to be back live after every round of golf Thursday Friday Saturday and Sunday right here on YouTube Twitter wherever you get it and your podcast feed you look forward to it so thanks everyone for tuning in we’ll see you back later this week Cheers Cheers