Previewing The NBA Finals | Numbers on the Board

Previewing The NBA Finals | Numbers on the Board
On this episode of Numbers On The Board, Kenny, Pierre, Mike, and Darrick give their predictions for the Mavericks-Celtics NBA Finals showdown. Should Luka Doncic, Kyrie Irving, and Dallas be the favorites against top-seeded Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown-led Boston? Plus, how should the loser of the Finals feel about their future?
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0:00 Introduction
03:00 Did the Mavericks have an easy path to the NBA Finals?
07:30 How the Mavericks have taken risks and built their roster
11:00 Impact of Derrick Jones Jr and why Mavericks are tough to defend
19:00 Confident Jayson Tatum can win Finals MVP?
21:00 Which moves do the Cavaliers and Bulls need to make this offseason?
26:20 Should the Timberwolves make moves this offseason or run it back?
31:40 Is the Second Apron good for the Nuggets and other NBA teams?
36:00 What advantages do the Celtics have in the NBA Finals?
40:48 Will the Mavericks defense be effective against the Celtics?
47:40 What type of impact will Kristaps Porzingis have in NBA Finals?
51:40 NBA Finals Predictions
53:22 How should the loser of NBA Finals feel?
01:00:25 Which players in NBA history could shut down Nikola Jokic?
01:05:20 Unplugged
01:46:25 Goodbye

[Music] welcome back to numbers on the board numbers on the board yes we are finally down to two the NBA finals are here baby uh oh sound like you about to do a ad read n like that commercial he about to ad read the Celtics he know he can’t read damn reading is a little hard man the Celtics on taking Port I don’t think they real they got to the finals two lost is 14 games it’s two too many not impressive not impressive they should have just went 12 and0 or 12 and 0 like a real team they didn’t win one game by 55 I seen that on YouTube and I was watching I was looking at the comments ah Boston fans was upset with D Mills and everybody else was upset with us so it’s like I think that’s what makes a good debate if half of the people saying that they sad with one side the other half of people said they sad with the other side and it’s like 3% of people that sad with Mike which means they didn’t really give a damn either they didn’t give a damn either way cuz Mike was kind of just chilling I mean I keep seeing just people going back and forth and I see a lot of people going with like the narrative Diles is kind of going with that’s just that like the harder battle for the Mavs is kind of like it’s giving them that jump to people that like they could just take this team and the Celtics just been good all season long and I think that’s the battle battle I’m kind of going with too I’m feeling like I’m kind of we we’re going to get into our about say you about to get your prediction two minutes into the show you know you know what I you know who I just seen the greatest thing about Mike justen he goes who daas he instantly got to talking about about this match up did he yeah yeah obiously he was not he was kind of speaking like D Mills over here he yeah he was doing that when I was at the barber show but he’s also a person that was saying he ain’t believing I’m like they’re going to the finals brother and they are in the finals yeah so it’s like again and he is also an exception to me because he is a fan right so I was I’m only speaking on people that’s in the media cuz it’s kind of just like fans going to say whatever you know mean that’s that’s what they’re supposed to do but the media our job is to take all the information that’s in front of us and use it to kind of make uh make proclamations and different things like that and it’s just like man when you when you’ve got to the finals and 12 12 to two run I I don’t know how much more convinced you got to be this is the worst time for NBA media cuz there’s nothing to talk about so now it’s like hm not only what can I say what can I do it’s really literally nothing to talk about this episode to Tuesday we have there’s not going to be anything I got an idea for Tuesday we gonna be locked in be sure to tune in to that and Tuesday uh 2 o’clock Eastern time ESPN 2 our linear show us you can you can also get another free episode of numbers on the board um I just saw something before we hit record of somebody on TV saying the Boston Celtic’s path was easy I’m sorry I’m sorry the Dallas Maverick’s path was easy how they against three is the only good player on the OKC Thunder and they’re young kawh Leonard missed three of the games in that one series and Minnesota’s a young team too so is it really that tough of a pack who said that Kean Johnson oh he’s a football player but still I just co-host just watch him if one of y’all came to the show saying something like that I’m not letting you get that sentence out I’m sorry because what what are we on about what do we AUM teams was like 50 plus wins they be three 50 win uh plus teams they beat two of the top five offenses in basketball and two of the top five defenses in basketball talking about some goddamn they annihilated the top defense in basketball like they literally they made Rudy gobe a non-factor and he was a DPI they they beat three of the top four seeds did he have them did he did he have them M probably not no cuz he picked OKC to beat them last round that’s so you can’t tell me that it’s easy and you ain’t even pick them yeah they beat the team that you expected to beat them yeah it could have been it couldn’t have been that easy again it’s just a tough time for NBA media I guess that’s why I think this is a time where everybody should be having fun and you shouldn’t have to be having hot takes and stuff like I think that’s what it’s all about well that should always be the focus like that’s why when we when people who was the first one to say that like y’all don’t like basketball is that Kevin Durant and I I I feel him on that now more than ever I just literally think people don’t like basketball because there’s always something to find that ruins a moment it’s always something like something could be like it’s the this is the finals I love the finals you know what I mean it’s always something always something the Miami Heat went on a crazy run last year oh who really want to watch a finals with the he and the Nugget the nuggets the greatest Cinderella run in like NBA history oh really I was bro that run was so fun to watch my dad was on the phone saying that to me the other day I I like dynasties actually actually like I understand what he’s saying if that’s the end of it now he might have went over he a he this series this final this final is going to be boring I like so he like one team to just dominate for a few years yes but I think it’s cuz people like that like they they like seeing the top dog get toen down my argument to to that to him though was if you like dynasties then you should know that you have to allow one to happen what if this is the start to a dynasty for somebody you you’re not even giving nobody a chance yeah so it’s like what if you like Dynasty then let them cook you never know it’s a dynasty until they win that thank you that second one they got to start somewhere so you’re not about to see a team win for 10 years we saw a dinosur we just saw the Warrior One so you thought another one was going to transpire right after hold up pop but you got to think about it from your pops’s life he’s kind of always seen dakers Bulls Lakers Spurs and then Warriors a little Miami heish start you thought it could be a d right so he’s always lived in that like having six different championships champions in six different years is like that’s new the last time that has happened was the early 70s mhm which he also left through with his old D but we have also seen the same teams in the kitchen cooking during the you know what I’m saying like it ain’t like like the same teams are in the playoffs going against each other you get no same matchups it’s just like the finals guys different what is this a Celtics second time in the finals and how many year four and they’ve been in the Conference Finals what every year second time in two in two years and three years three years um now this is Dallas’s first time since Jason ke was a starting point guard but Dallas they won conference run they they then they got they bounced back and now they here yeah which is like I want to give the credit to the Dallas maveri because we haven’t talked since their last win which they absolutely dominated LCA with 20 points in the first quarter while the Minnesota Timo was at 18 he had three shots that were near 30 foot three points in the first quarter yeah 19 I think and I love Anthony he was like I mean what was we supposed to do yeah he had three threes it was near logos supposed to compete yeah the best defense and you know what St him and C both had good like shooting nights and then this was the one game where they got nothing else from anybody else U but the Dallas Mavericks have made some really good decisions and some really bad decisions over the last couple years and it still ended up with them in the finals like Jaylen Brunson is one of the best players in basketball they let him walk for nothing and it hasn’t mattered that was two years ago and now they’re in the finals they traded a first round pick to get Grant Williams and traded a first round pick to get rid of Grant Williams and that is that led them to get to the NBA finals like they made a mistake and then they they made the mistake of jayen Brun hey krie Irving is on the market for nothing we get him we made the mistake with Grant Williams hey PJ Watson’s on the market for a first round pick we do it so they’ve taken a lot of chances in the the Luca dones era which I can commend them for because even the porzingis trade they traded a lot to get porzingis but they saw this young kid who could be one of the best players ever like we got to think about it it’s hard to think about it because we’re living in it in the moment he’s 25 and five all NBA giv credit a lot of that to like to LCA in terms of like he just needed support around him he’s that good of a basketball player where he can win you a series he win Dan we getting to the point where he might be able to win you a championship with support around him and the jayen Brunson thing was like that sucked jayen Brunson wasn’t that same player he could have transformed to that player but they got Kyrie Irving who was just as good and then obviously you had um PJ Washington come in and he filled the role too Derrik Jones like he just needed that support and he’s going to carry the rest of the way I think the K addition has been a lot better than what they expected I think they expected the offense to be there or to be a to be Lucas Copart on the offensive side but the defensive impact that we’ve seen from him on this playoff run is something that I don’t think no one expected and I think it’s been contagious to Luca he’s way more engaged this is probably his best defensive season he’s had so like carrying that locker room has been so influential to this whole roster yeah there was a um they were talking about it on Zack L’s podcast the other day about like of the small guards in basketball Kyrie Irving is probably the best defender amongst the Stars like he not you’re not comparing him to um to Alice K well no he Alice Kusa is pretty yeah um Javon Carter or like a guy like that but amongst him and Dame and these other small guards across basketball C Irving is just the best defender in that and most of that is just his obviously IQ but also the effort that he gives on that side of the ball um where like you can’t really hunt krie Irving as much as you can H Dam liard yeah for sure yeah and I think it’s just have you ever been able to oh you oh you saying we just now noticing it I’m yeah I can’t really remember in the past in the finals with the Warriors and I don’t remember them like saying we want to get C but they just played different basketball the Warriors never hunted no one they kind of just played like sh it looked like they was hunting to get uh Kevin Love early and I’m switching until Kevin L start holding his own true they did it to yish too yeah they they do hunt in a way but I think they do it within the Florida offense like I think like the Mavs like and the way the Mavs do it like they’re going to call whoever’s garden they’re going to have them come set the screen and then it’s the pick and roll and yeah absolutely everybody has their own way of attacking it the other day I was like driving um the morning we went to go play golf um and I was thinking about this series again and I’m not an exen no guy I’m not a coach I got no experience that way but I was just thinking if if when you’re down as much as you were by the by the Minnesota Timol and you’re back against the Walkers you’re down three I think it’s time when you start just throwing random [ __ ] at the wall right and I know they played so many different defensive coverages and stuff like that maybe I’m bugging y’all tell me could you have played Rudy goar on like a dear Jones Jr to allow him to roam he could try that I was thinking about the same thing too cuz I mean I’m thinking about how the Celtics were going to do it cuz they’re just a little bit different team but Luca was just kind of like taking advantage of every kind of like time they would overh help or over Blitz or anything and it honestly came down to the other players just making plays too like they was sagging off Derrick Jones Jr a lot of times he didn’t even take the three he ran right to the paint and he made a really awesome play so I I really don’t know I I’m interested to see the breakdowns of how you stop this man so the reason I asked that it’s because I’m I’m I’m looking at this series and I’m seeing Dar Jones Jr spend a lot of his times in the corner right and in my mind let let’s say how do how do we run this we have car Anthony towns guarding the big if it’s Lively or if it’s Daniel gaffer and when they bring up the pick and roll you you hard Blitz you Blitz Blitz Blitz to try to get the ball out of Lucas’s hands so if he slips it to the big you got a Raman Rudy go bear just standing there and if you if Dar Jones J hit seven threes like he Grant Williams game seven a few years back then you just live with that but also I mean one of the main things in the series is that they tried to eliminate all the corner threes like that was one of the the main things at least through the first couple games of the series series but I’m just trying to figure out how can the number one defense in the league adjust to a guy like Luca who at this point we talked about the last episode might be a un schable guy and I feel like the only way you do that is to get the ball out of his hands but obviously when you blitzed with Rudy goar there was nobody Tagg in the RO man because they didn’t they wanted the shooters to or they didn’t want the shooters to shoot I mean in a way though still if Derek if you put Rudy on him if I’m if I’m Luca some possessions I’m going just have Derrick Jones J just come set the screen right you got carony town because that means Derrick Lively is doing what he’s sitting in the paint so now you still have that back end help but it’s carony towns it’s not the same back in help but it’s still somebody and it’s not just a free lob every single time yeah you could have definitely tried to experiment with it but at least run it a couple possessions just to see and luuka would have probably adjusted accordingly that’s just what he does yeah but at least it would have been something different yeah I mean one thing and I will say he trusted darus Jones and PJ all series like this whole playoff run if they’re open and you do that help could couldn’t I just put Derrik Jones on the weak side and go to the opposite side and do that M that’s what I would do I have Kyrie Irving and Luka donic so if you want to put if Derrick Jones Jr is on the right I’m not running a I’m going put PJ so what if you Chris Finch because at the end of the day PJ Watson’s having a great shooting run he’s not he hasn’t been a great shooter so let’s just say whoever is on the strong side or maybe you go empty side at that point if you look at like there’s probably ways to scheme against it but like if PJ is on the strong side then Rudy go you’re your guarding PJ like just maybe it’s not Derek Jones Jr every possession but whoever’s strong side again you can empty it out and andc tried doing that with PJ he torched they ass but you but then you can argue that OKC has had the best defense against the Dallas Mavericks where what it had to be PJ and it wasn’t as much Luca yeah you could say that definitely because LCA definitely didn’t have the explosive nights he he still had his good game here and there but like they definitely Stow him down a little bit but I felt like also in that series his knee was bothering a lot more for sure it was bleeding every game yeah I feel like this why you start laughing this one this series look a little it even no the last game it didn’t even look like he had blood it just L like a bunch of dirt and I was like it’s always something on your KN um I just watched some of these other teams defend like I watched how the Dallas Mavericks defended OKC where it’s like if Josh G’s on the court then Derrick Lively’s guarding Josh gy and that just allows their best defensive Center to Rome yeah we saw it in here when you play Kyle Anderson yep and I just don’t know how you have Rudy go who’s the DPI not be a RoR because shot the ball way better than those two guys just mentioned to for sure but still hell if it’s Kyrie Irving and Luca or Dar Jones Jr Dar Jones J you gotta do your part it’s also easier said than done Luca was cooking you know what I’m saying like it’s it’s not much they haven’t seen they started their offense so high on the court that it just messed up everything for the Minnesota Tim bolves where if you want to drop when you 37 feet out and Luca is hitting at 30 foot like there’s nothing you can really do yeah and I mean that’s a shot that apparently like I guess you want to give up in that situation like in that technique but he was hitting it every time look in those close out games be phenomenal bro how much oh no go ahead he just always takes his game to another level like he’s he one of them players he’s one of them players that will do that how much do you trust your your your defensive rotation with Rudy and cat out too constantly scrambling because I believe that would that would have been the uh other exit option for the Mavericks think swing him over yeah starting with Luka we doing the screen you bumping we hitting the corner your dude is in a complicated space now uh the helper is getting help and so Rudy’s rotation is to go close out to Kyrie oh that’s what the new stuff that’s a little bit tougher to if you haven’t really done it over the regular season because of that you need a lot of talking and communication that’s why I was even thrown off when they went Zone that one time and I understand it because you just want to switch it up but I was like I’ve never seen him do this before and they they basically got right out of it cuz they couldn’t go that either yeah cuz I think that also plays into the Maverick strengths where if you’re doing that and you have that much rotation if they can get you out of whack I think it’s is it’s done deal because now you potentially have a car iny towns or Rudy on an island with a carrye or Luca and that’s why I prefer when the Mavericks pushed it like there was like that game one where Luca went out of the game and Kyrie was with the was with the a second a mixture was some starters and some second unit guys and he had an emphasis of just pushing just push it cuz it’s like if you can play against that Timber wvs defense without allowing it to set that’s phenomenal granted they cooked them when they were set too but yeah one thing about that series that just felt like they were always in foul trouble Jaden McDaniels could not stop fouling and part of that is like he’s trying to harass Luka and he just kept picking him up but he also was getting frustrated um and was picking up some fouls but he was just kind of like eff it um yeah and then it’s some of the ones is just inexcusable for carony Town having the craziest ones yeah um which and it never stopped like you would have thought at some point like he would have stopped every game it was because the way he and it it’s so it’s so crazy cuz the way he drives the ball it’s so aggressive he’s liable to pick up one or two offensive fouls a game just driving yeah so save them fouls for when you’re actually playing defense yeah I mean in this game the Dallas Mavericks in the half court had an offensive rating of 1298 that’s one of the best defense 29.8 I credit I credit a lot that to the start Luka had man are you being serious 129 he started off when he set that tone I knew exactly what time it was man and he said that the reason he did that was because he knew that eventually they would have to send a double and now it’s just an easy swing yeah so he had his mind that in this first quarter I was going to kill and then I was just going to open a game up for everybody else that’s exactly what happened yeah we saw him do it against the Suns when when they came out and they came out guns blazing he was aggressive and he got everybody involved too against the sons yeah I’m talking about when when they beat him by when they was up years back yeah that close out game he came out and he torched they ass that was convincing for you yes he has a lot of those convincing closed out series we could be really living through like one of the greatest players of all time right now and I’m I’m here what you saying that this run M could be him taking the reain as the best player in the world right he could yeah okay he could you was cooking with though could went for game four wins left yeah we’ll see four wins left we will see as a lot of Mavericks cooking was on here you was on his MVP campaign I was coming here we did somebody reminded me we did a bracket episode for March and I kept saying that Dallas could be the Cinderella could be the Cinderella um I had a video calling I’m the hottest team going into the playoffs I’m gonna be that mad Celtics fan now Jason Tatum win is he the best player in the world I had a real question if the Celtics win how much how how much and they G this gonna feel like I’m on some bull some BS with how much of a percentage if they win do y’all have in saying Jason tayum will be the finals MVP or how much are you I would say like 75% yes okay I would say 80ish I wouldn’t take it out the possibility so it’s only 20% that J Brown I’m not surprised yeah yeah oh well maybe like 15% Jaylen Brown 5% pton Pritcher uh oh that’s crazy did y’all see that video Mason put in the chat yesterday what they prit was on the podcast saying that he hires his homies that play overseas in the offseason to guard him one onone he pays him a real salary in their whole job I thought you I thought we talked about that like a long time but I that was the first time I ever seen it and I’m like oh snap he pays him to guard him open gym so he can get in his bag and if you get a stock I respect that I respect that cuz I remember a couple years ago I thought he was a joke well he was joking when he was like I need that I need that bigger role when he playing backup and I was like yeah there bro he didn’t have much to where you be like what is he talking about how you demanding the trade saying you want a bigger role I did see like right after that he had the one game where he started he put up 30 so it was like yeah I y’all see I can who definitely put the ball in the he was he was nice at organ man he was nice I felt what he was coming from I mean I just feel like anybody that can hoop gonna want a bigger role yeah he from the outside looking in it just also look kind of crazy because the Celtics was just such a good team wasn’t it right after the finals run yeah like ah we made it to the finals but I want the ball in my hands please I I love that transparency um because it’s like I I really think fans and people in the media they really be thinking people like want to win dudes in this league want to hoop and get paid yeah he just like d like for example they was saying a rumor that Darius garland would request a trade of Donovan Mitch sign it may I thought about the yesterday I’m like that is another one of those things and I don’t know Darius Garland but that’s just another one of those things where it’s like that shows you what players are doing this for but then also the Cav recently just said they want to keep everybody as they should that that’s what made me think about it because if I was a GM I was the owner I don’t care what him and his team are talking about we have him Donovan Mitchell Evan Moi and Jared Allen we have that big yeah hold up homie you going to have to uh really go out here in the media and look in the cameras on these uh shows pull simm yeah cuz we got something going on and last year a’t go our way cuz we had a lot of injuries so we going we going to try to roll this back again man especially if we got down to playing with a full phas mask on full year I I think they have to make some moves at least one of those top four have to go oh if they if if they if if they are going to will be Jared Allen I’m not I’m not I’m GNA have to run that back again teams be trying too fast to just rewrite stuff and move things okay okay I understand you want to make one move go ahead but they’ve been a they’ve been a solid team they’ve been a lot better over these last couple years than I thought they would be they have a 50 win season for sure but I wonder what’s the return for Jared Allen like I know you don’t want another big obviously because then it just be the same situation I saw some mockups I didn’t like a single one of them trades yeah I just don’t know how to gauge it was like Dyson Daniels and um and Jordan Hawkins found AO yeah also and why am I trading Jordan Hawkins like because you can’t play him yeah I guess I understand that one a lot more than my boy could for two young role players and he was knocking that thing down yeah they’re they both need time of develop and learning they if I’m the C I’m trying to win now why am I why am I taking on more projects you’re giving us Brandon Ingram that’s what you’re giving us oh yeah that would be the most ideal thing but I just don’t know if they would want J Allen but like J Allen next to Z yeah but I don’t know if the Brandon Ingram trade makes anyway um just a lot of Trades Trad talks there gonna be a lot of Trades going on in something I think you think so I think we gonna see a lot of different player M man I hope so think teams want to be aggressive did the Lakers want to capitalize the Bulls want to move up in the draft they do want to move up in the draft yep I got a easy trade for that throw it at us we trade up to three oh [ __ ] for K Caruso and 11 mhm I was thinking about that I would I probably would think about it if I was Houston I get 11 I meanus 11 you think re shepher would ever be as good as Caruso is maybe I mean Caruso stupid question that’s who you taking at three that’s that’s why I see a lot of moxo no I’m saying if you’re the Bulls oh no no no no no no no I’m talking about for the for the hawk I mean for the Rockets Rockets yeah no the bullets don’t take re sheeper why we no we got we got the white boy it’s esaro you know I’m saying we not trading him away for the younger version I saw but I see a lot of stuff about um the wolves who probably don’t deserve any air time cuz they suck but that they willing to salary dump Zack LaVine and I’m just so prepared for to be on the Bulls next season that is like the only contract that matches they can literally go one for one but I also saw some Nets fan who was like we don’t want the cont we’d rather just take the expiring contract of been if I’m the Nets what are they doing but Joe Sai said in his interview like we’re at a crossr or long I don’t know exactly what the hell that means they got a new coach that organization is they they doing bad things over there right now man like in don’t know if they want to BU oh it is huh they don’t know if they want to yeah they want to stay with like a Mel and not older but Mel Le team is only going to get you where you at no no I don’t think that’s what they’re saying to make him as the leader but do they want to keep him as a piece that they’re building towards or do they want to hit the full reset without their own draft I still agree with dere because what are you building towards how you going to have your build one of your building pieces be a third option that’s what Mel Bridges naturally is I think that’s when he’s at his best that’s when you see him at his fullest potential I don’t really know what are you saying like we going we going to keep Mel and we gonna hopefully go get two good compliment good Stars up next to him that’s been the spot that they’ve been in since they traded Kevin Durand now because it’s like y’all had a great team that man if y’all had Damen Lillard y’all would have been decent they’ had Dan Mel uh Clon cam y’all have been eyed there is no way for you to get Damen Lillard there’s no way for you to get the night Shining Armor to put in front of Mel yeah so because we know that trade them just trade them trade them right to Houston you can get number three and some more of your back and you decent yes and then once you do that guess what else you do dils you start to put cam Johnson on the market Doran fny Smith here you can take him too you can probably do a sign tra you uh um well the trade is trade for let him walk who trade for carony towns for Brooklyn that’s how you oh I thought you meant for the polls I said oh no hell no we don’t we don’t make that happen how the hell y’all doing that but it’s like do and it’s cam why I don’t want to see there’s a financial there’s a financial implications for the Minnesota Timberwolves coming up I’ll eat that well you’re not the owner of the team that’s true and time out time you would if I’m the Tim yeah we just had we was we just had a great run we we run this back y’all had a great run yes objectively yes yes they had a great run they this is the first conf fin this appearance since we were in in that in that aspect sure but to me them go they want they would have tied for the number one seed all all them going out like this is the most hard hardest part of watching this because of that because you have all of that on the line I think that they do have to go into the offseason think they don’t have to panic but I do think they have to make sure that they are fully confident and ready in this team not in Anthony Edwards you’re going to keep him you know what I mean but you do have to start looking at that money time because the West is only going to get better it’s only going to get harder and sometimes we hear a lot of people say it you get there and you think you’re going to go back and go back and go back and it is possible but it is another thing in the Western Conference where you might not have the luxury of getting back to that spot and I think when you’re paying that much money you probably wanted to not go out in five games yeah but I also a team that you better than who you beat Kevin dur Durant Devon Booker very impressive then you go out and you beat the reigning Champions and the reigning MVP and Nia joic you look at that and you go against Luca donz who’s argu the best player in the league and you got your ass sped yeah you did but you got to look at that and say [ __ ] we we was there for sure first couple games they was close they’re going to be they’re going they’re they’re going to be happy that they got that far yeah but I think that’s why you also got of running it back when run when you running a business cuz you’re just thinking about it as they’re thinking that as as a business this is somebody who team they’re they’re going to pay that premium yeah it’s even before this we had heard the conversations with uh Kad Rudy no Alex Rodriguez and the whole own yeah all of that has been going on prior to even this yeah so because of all of that happening I do think that they’re going to be having conversations yeah they have they have to uh Glen T’s only played the luxury tax once since since 2003 not ideal and then there was the report that one of the reasons Glen Taylor didn’t complete the sale it’s because he thought that Alex Rodriguez and him were not going to pay the luxury tax with again which again means that they were going to have to trade one of their big players um it’s unfortunate they have the best season in basically their franchise history and running it back is an option but it’s less likely of an option as most other teams you know a team a team as young as they are and I mean young in a sense that before this they only had one playoff series together that was last year versus Denver you think that we run it back we feel better about it but it’s just it’s difficult the second the second apron changes the way teams have to team build completely like I read an article on the athletic about it with the Denver Nuggets we’re like they they talked about um Calvin boof said we’re trying to build a dynasty but we built this team under the previous CBA rules we’re like now they have to extend Aaron Gordon they have all of these big ass contracts where they’re gonna have to potentially trade like a Michael por Jr in order to not hit the second apron because the second apron means that every trade you do has to be a one for one in the the salaries must match you cannot um do sign of Trades again you can um you don’t you don’t get your mle anymore like there’s so many financial implications so if you are the Minnesota timbles or Denver Nuggets a team that you feel great about that you want running back with you might not be able to because once you hit that second apron you are extremely extremely limited and that’s why we go back to the original one of the original conversations well Pierre pops one of dynasties I don’t know if we’re ever going to get dynasties again as long as the second apron is a thing because theget are example they drafted extremely well they got a second round MVP they got Michael por J with 16 back surgeries who at the one point was the number one player in the country they got Jamal Murray uh what seventh yeah they made a huge trade to get Aaron Gordon they did everything perfectly and the new CBA is like well your time has coming your time has went everything perfect man other than them trading um two future Hall of Famers at on draft night I’m thinking about that for a couple teams now what two fruit Hall of famous Donovan MIT cuz I know we’ve been talking about okay’s going to have to pay people soon they got the championship those those dudes don’t allow these other dudes to be who they are so they did everything perfect say that again Mike my fault cuz OKC’s gonna run into a similation soon too because they’re gonna have to pay a bunch of their young guys yeah we had that conversation at the end of at the beginning of the Season we were already before anything with Josh giddy before any play we were already saying man when you just look at this team and you know where it’s going to go who is their ode man out you you can you can just look at teams and already POS that question that’s why I was saying to you yeah they had a a great run by getting to the Western Conference Finals but when you go into that second apron and you’re paying all of these these guys you have to damnn near be certain that this is the team that you think can do what it needs to be needs to be done and if there’s any doubt in your mind you got to have some conversations because once you press that button now imagine if they don’t get back in the next three years they’re going to be paying all that money going to second apron for a team that they kind of Base it off of because of a a a onetime thing and the second apron is a weird thing to incorporate in the middle of the best Purity the league has ever seen the second apron is something that was for teams to limit them having super T Golden State Warriors The Warriors getting Kevin Durant stuff like that I like the second apron but what I don’t like is what we just talked about it’s no stretch I’m not trying to exaggerate at all but I do feel like the nuggets did everything that you can ask of an organization they did everything correct even after even even getting the Christian Browns and they got Bruce Bowen like they did everything right I mean yeah Bruce Brown I was reading a book Atlas shout out to Kirk goberry I need to pick that up and he was talking about Bruce Brown Bruce Bowen um they did everything right so yeah I agree with the second apron of yeah we don’t want a 73 win team to go be go able to get Gavin Durant but but at the same time we also don’t want to punish a team who drafted well you know what I’m saying that don’t make sense but yeah I definitely agree that the uh I didn’t even know the Celtics shouldn’t be able to go get James Harden in this off bro some some of these things are I didn’t even know this one if a team remains in the second apron three out of the five years the first round pick will automatically move to the end of the round oh [ __ ] that’s crazy so what the hell we just we just guarante the is not going to be in the second apron so yes it will but the the Celtics are going to tell you that our pick is going to be at the end of the first round any here’s another one first round pick seven years out um a valuable asset for capped out contenders cannot be traded at the beginning of the next season so yeah now nowadays I’m trying to think of a trade you like the Lakers has been trying to do yeah you we’ll trade you to 2030 2030 first round pick when you’re in the second April you can’t do well that’s six years down the line the 20301 first round that you cannot trade if you’re a second apron team you cannot pick anybody up on the buyout Market I mean you can’t throw cash in any trade you can’t use a trade exception anymore and all of these things kind of make sense because if you are paying that much money your team should be ready to go yeah right you shouldn’t have to do all you shouldn’t be adding anybody from the if you paying second apron you’re maxed out in every way why should you be looking at the buyout market for sure our buyout Market has been dry as hell for years I agree with the the sentiment but again the Denver Nuggets are the example that like there should you’re killing thee that they built yeah you should some there should be some sort of leadway for teams that draft well like there should be some sort of like if you have your core guys and you draft them you should be able to pay them without getting paid I agree so they got Jamal yoke mpj Christian braa no those are just the three cour the yeah the back there should be something where like there should be some incentive or some now I don’t want to say discount but something in there that is saying like if you got home there should be a homegrown tax right yeah you got a homegrown tax or a write off a homegrown write off where if if if you are if you got three max players or whatever and they homegrown there should be some some of those things that get SC cap as hard or something like that something I’m not the one that make these rules but there should be some type of incentive or write off bird rights just so you can kind of like extend your cap say it again how bird rights work like if you have that your owner you can extend you get that extra match kcp is an interesting player of this off season for this I’m scared I think man not only you got this but there are some other suitors that Philly can defin really want him and he’s going to have to go get his bag yeah Philly Detroit there’s like teams that just have money orando hell yeah I will for the B I’m coming it’s not coming home it’s coming back not coming back um okay so we’re gonna take a break um and then we’re going to talk about the other side of the bracket I know we talked about the Celtics a bunch we going to get back into it because it’s the NBA finals y’all yeah why should you bet with Caesar sports book two words Caesar’s rewards every bet brings you closer to the type of benefits only Caesars can offer hotel stays VIP experiences Sports and concert tickets and more it’s not just an app it’s an Empire as you mentioned the Boston Celtics were dominant in their run um wins wise According to some people uh to get to the NBA finals and now they know officially officially that it is the the Dallas Mavericks um I kind of want to just get into the series completely now like how are y’all feeling X factors I I want to hear it all I’m GNA let dly have the floor are you going to let me have the floor because it’s always interesting to hear you speak when we talking about the Celtics just just because it’s kind of all came out of nowhere uh let’s let’s what was the Drake line it’s this this ain’t nothing it’s been brewing for a minute or something like that sure you got that yeah I know Austin I know I know we gonna let him try to cook though he cooking with half the ingredients but okay but no it’s I I I just look at this team and I just see I don’t know what I see I I see a talented team right but I also seeast something I see a talented team I’m not saying they’re not a talented team but I also see a team that I’m not really scared of if I’m on uphol ins side um like if I’m Dallas I don’t look at the Boston Celtics and look at the season they have and feel like oh man we got a mountain de Cline like this is going to be tough I think this is a pretty even killed team like I think that’s I think they’re D on the same playing level I I Celtics may have had a dominant regular season don’t get me wrong but I don’t think that they were that much dominant than the teams in the west I think those teams in the west was just as good just they had a on a night to night basis they were going against each other like there was a doll fight where the Celtics in the East the East is kind of weak and so like it’s easy to rack up those wins in a regular season and you get to chill and those Fade Away shots from Tatum they going to fall cuz he going against the Pistons like it’s it’s something like that that’s kind of what I’m looking at here you be having very good arguments and then you always get one point that just a play the Pistons in a very long time and let’s not act like Tatum averages 12 against good talent like there a lot of good teams that they beat tat they still probably even have have a good game the Celtics are a good team they’re a great team they’re a great team M I just think the teams at West were better they just had to go against each other on a more regular basis how many teams out west were better than the Celtics I need nuggets were okay um that’s fair you also you also thought a lot of you had the Dallas Mavericks better than now no I’m just saying just like in general yeah right now I think the Dallas M you also thought that the Bucks were better you thought the Sixers were better yeah if they were healthy I didn’t think that they were going to beat them so so your argument of the the East being weak but you had two teams out east better than them wait that don’t wait the face you make when somebody asks a question like that or like a rebut with is well the the buck thing they had they had a little bit time of jail when dere start doing this he he caught up you you know how Dereck is feeling basically like when he’s feeling good you see the shoulders roll a little bit you see him jump he get nervous that foot on tap he he massaging somebody but listen the point I’m trying to make is go ahead sir no the buck was a little I’m also saying this also what I want you to know yeah when I say I gave you to floor it’s not to it’s not to debate a thing I just want you to cook now if you do say something questionable because we are more than your co-host we’re your brothers we we gonna get on you but they don’t have to say anything in a defense mode thinking we going to attack it yeah but I am going to say you did pick those two teams to beat them yeah I thought if they were healthy and they went against the Celtics I thought they was those were the two teams that I thought could legitimately beat them based off of based off Yan Tuma who I thought was going to be the best player in this series and I thought he would especially if porzingis was there I thought it was going to really get him problems cuz porzingis throughout the history I mean I remember seeing assass Janis is giving him like 40 something whenever they match up against each other so like I just thought that was going to be a very compelling match up I don’t think porzingis to me is someone who’s watch he’s not a guy that Fe puts fear to me I know a lot of people look into him and say like he’s just fear and like remember- man was like I don’t fear Rudy I fear pringus poring is the one that be blocking me I don’t feel like teams look at poras and I don’t think Luca and kyri are going to be like oh man we got porzingis in the paint or like look at nobody they just be they ain’t gonna look at nobody like that yeah so for me I think matchup wise I think this these teams match up very evenly I think these teams match up as well I definitely do think that the Mavericks should go in here um looking at this team as a tall Mount the Clin because they are the best team that they have faced um and they are have been the better team throughout the entire season throughout the playoffs um the the Mavericks are cooking though so they should be confident you don’t go into any Ser series fearful and they have shown us a we off that they’re not going to be fear they’re not going to be fear uh fearful of anybody because they just handled the the Minnesota Timberwolves easily the team that you thought was gonna beat them um I do think that the Maverick’s biggest question for me is the defense you’ve played all playoffs which has worked against every every team that you played it might not be the same against this Celtics team because porzingis is a 72 73 guy who can shoot lights out because Al Horford went 7 to 12 in a playoff game in the very last series we saw because Derek white is Elite because Drew holiday is a shot maker and then you also have their two best players play a position that your wings I don’t know if they match I let me not say I don’t know they don’t match up with these guys as well and as good as Kyrie has been as uh locked in on defense the Luca and Kyrie have been Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum no matter what you have to say about them is a tall ask of anybody in any series and when I look at the Mavericks I respect what they’ve done defensively I love what they’ve done defensively but when you play that Gap and based off the reads and the the willingness of passing that Jason Tatum exposed in the pace series it should it’s going to be you took a lot you took a lot like that I was thinking just kind of like I took your brain yeah cuz all those times he was kind of like hey we gonna kind of leave uh Kyle Anderson we’ll have well we’ll help off him we’ll help off Lou dord and Company or something like sure you can’t help off them other guys like they can legit run five out and even if it’s like you do have Luca on the island guarding Jason Tatum and you want to trap Jason Tatum he’s doing nothing but kicking it to guys that will like kill you in on all three levels yeah I’m I’m curious to how Dallas throughout these playoff run they’ve done a good job of making the teams uncomfortable wonder what’s Jason kid plan to make the Celtics uncomfortable like they’ve done a very good job at it that’s just my biggest gripe yeah I and and I’mma say this and just be as honest as I can be no Celtics fans should get offended but this is just how I feel and I’m that’s how I’m rocking my prediction and my pick will continue to be the Celtics as I picked since it started season and I think they’re going to win the finals I will not hold back that I am rooting for the Dallas Mavericks and Kyrie Irving to win the championship yeah I’m not mad what I’m rooting for versus my pick are to two completely things as an anal as an analyst who’s doing his job I am picking the Boston Celtics when I am at home watching this game as a fan before I make my video as an analyst again I am going to be saying Kyrie getting your bag I want get I’m not hiding that at all hell yeah krie get that that not at all I por get that back don’t forget oh yeah I’m joking my boy too but I’m a bigger I think Joy basketball posted a clip of that Luca was playing against the Celtics when he was like 16 yeah yeah that was crazy to see you don’t remember when you played in the preseason against yeah no uh freaking nice hoodie Russell Russell Westbrook thank you man that’s really cool yeah why you never one yours I don’t know I’ve just never warn it here I’ve worn it I’ve worn it outside I’ve just never enjoy we we know that who really got that hoodie oh yeah yeah yeah it’s not his hoodie no more she got the hoodie and the pants y’all CRA uh yeah that that Gap SL late help defense it will be tough to run against Boston because they have all five Shooters porzingis looks good they say he’s healthy he’s probably going to be good to go one of the coolest or the interesting things about it is that the Dallas Mavericks generate the mo one of the most Corner three-pointers in all of basketball they’re top three and Bost Celtics take that away um so it’s going to be a tug and pool who’s going to get to play their style of basketball for the longest um but I agree with a lot of the stuff you said like though the Celtics are the favorite and they should be the favorite the Dallas Mavericks have a real legitimate chance in this series yeah yeah like I I’ll be honest with you last year when we we were talking NBA Finals it was Denver versus Miami even though Miami did all of that in my mind there was no real chance for them to win this series espe since Jimmy B he was playing on a bad ankle yeah at this point time some said you picked the Miami Heat last year was that true no I don’t remember I don’t he I’m going just say there’s no way he picked the Miami Heat some the the foot I mean it’s going be out there when they was saying that about the Celtics somebody said this the same dude that picked the Miami he I heard say a lot of stuff I don’t think he picked Miami I didn’t know that’s why I asked but I seen somebody say that maybe I did I don’t remember I don’t remember either I feel like he was in the same where he was like I’m rooting for them I’m for I think we was all Ro for Jimmy yeah no I think that’s what I said I think I said like what P said he said he’s R for the M but he’s Pi I think I literally said I’m rooting for the heat but I picked the Deon nuggets to win cuz I was I was I felt the same way that you said like when I saw was like I was I was about to say something to that person but I’m like let me shut up cuz I don’t know factually but I was definitely going to have your back like Ain’t No Way de said that stop putting words in his mouth but just for them a tag a clip like he did say it then I was gonna be like oh so like let me not even say part that reason though that they do had a CH I legit think there’s they don’t really have a coverage for Luca I mean Jason like he’s got the size advantage on Drew holiday and de white and they still going to play amazing defense but he’s proven like he can just shoot over you or make those tough shots or make the right play I think we talking about uh on the last pod it might have to be Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown that starts like when they switch up the assignments they take on that initiative because because some of their bigs have a little bit of Mobility like Al Horford I think they may be a little bit more aggressive like what KB was just saying I think they might be the ones to do it to say hey Blitz him constantly but you know what they did zero blitzing all season long that yeah as a team and then this going to help me this going to make his point sound a little better they a play Nobody they have to do that again I’m not even just talking I’m talking regular season I I want to say the same thing because honestly you have Derek white Drew holiday jayen Brown like I trust those guys oneon-one in most case scenario was they Bliss and Tyler hero I can’t remember they did not I mean maybe they did occasionally but just all season long postseason they’re they’re the lowest Blitz team in basketball if they they have Derrik white Drew in the perimeter they kind of always if they did Blitz Tyler hero would make sense he had 25 and 14 that was the best game I ever seen that man play um they also ran jayen Brown as a primary Defender against Luca for the last couple Seasons they did against Steph Curry too when they played in the regular season and then Luca was guarding Drew holiday on the other end but the the The Times They went against each other it was one before the trade deadline it was one with after the trade deadline but after the trade deadline it’s not a like could take from it cuz Derk Jones Jr was only playing seven minutes Derrik live Derek uh Daniel Gafford only played seven minutes to so it’s before they found their real rotation post trade that line but it was interesting to see defensive schemes so like in that first game um they let porz get shoot completely por H three threes in the first quarter like that’s something they’re probably going to live with every single time the same way they did with C Homen in the first series like if you’re a seven-footer that can shoot you got to beat us because we’re not going to bring Derek Lively up to the point of attack that’s just not how we run our defense um and porzingis is coming off this injury will he be rusty will he be able to make them pay for them not not shooting he’s going to be rusty he will be rusty he know ping he’s going to be rusty at least game one and I feel like one the poring is that he capitalized on in recy is the switches posting up there’s no one on Dallas that he could really switch you on to and like you could say PR’s got to punish them like I don’t really see that he’s shooting over Kai if if you want to shoot that 15 foot jump shot over me that’s his that’s his version of yeah never like Drop St DK but his version of punish is that and I think it’s hard to call it a punish because me you the Dallas Mavericks uh the Miami you’re living with that you know what I’m saying so yeah I agree it’s not a punish but that is his it’s got to be inside his mind it’s just like this 10- foot jumper I can make all day or 10 to 15 because he’s really just shooting like you said shooting over him it’s just in his mind it’s got to be like a layup for him but again that’s still a very harder shot than just taking him down low getting that he can do both he can do both we definitely seen him do it I don’t know if he taking him down low and drop step that ain’t yeah I’m not that’s just not he’s always been a finesse he was struggling with Tyler hero he was he was he was I don’t know with C he dribble once that [ __ ] took I promise you hey ping is my mans I I have no problem giving him credit but his his idea of punishing is just shoot over no I agree that’s one of the things that do be irritating me about him cuz he is it’s just I don’t know it’s just not a great shot in like basketball turn who gets the Tatum assignment PJ or D Jones JJ derck Jones J I think it’s gonna be I feel like PJ is the stronger body so I’ll probably put PJ on Tatum and Brown gets Derrik Jones Jr I want I want the stronger body on Brown you want the stronger body yeah brown brown he’s going to the cup he’s going brown is Relentless that’s that’s one reason I he really just sometimes just put his head down just say I’m just getting to the basket and you got to deal with both of them sometimes s don’t have that mentality though once tum gets it going he he’s he’s pretty like but one thing I don’t have to worry about Luka getting it going hey Jason L Luka gonna come with it going already Jason T already Jason Tatum is Elite we add him mck to his teams He Is We have to no because he just picked them to lose hell no I’m not doing that no no he just against the Celtics I think it’s your anti sit up here and act like he just Maverick out he just uh with in the gang with Reese now you picked him to lose OKC too no I did no he didn’t okay okay okay okay um you picked up Lo of the Clippers nope nope if Minnesota would have won the series would you pick Minnesota over Boston yeah I thought defensely Minnesota was ready for that I thought defensely Minnesota would have gave Boston a lot of problems the Boston sela’s offense was number one in basketball the best of all time that that would have been a number one defense orus number one offense it would been than goodness me seeing that cuz I could see what the not number one offense is doing to him so I don’t want to see what the Celtics would have did to it um against teams that are sitting top 10 defensively the Boston Celtics have a 121 offensive rating uh the number two team has a 118 so they’re three points better per 100 possessions against top defenses MH I’m just saying you say that Tatum does that against the Pistons every night where he also does it against the really good teams too I’m just talking shcking um you just can’t pick I in a series that is potentially this close you have to nitpick to try to see who you think is going to win um ultimately my pick is going to be Celtics and six I’m Dallas and six my pick I got Celtics in six if it goes seven it’s I just don’t B everybody everybody’s excited we haven’t really gotten any many seven game series so that’s why I’m going I think we only got one no we got we got we had back to we had a night where we had two games and then uh oh yeah the Cavs versus Magic game seven oh [ __ ] it didn’t feel like we got that many but yeah we did get a few you don’t be watching basketball that’s why you a know Gary Harris was to started shooting guard I said g he only started 20 some games and the Tik Tock I literally looked it up I bet he started every game in the playoffs I don’t know about maybe he did but no there’s no maybe in that he did he did but like I I was like then he played like 50 something and he only started like 20 27 or some games in and I was like technically he did start but is he really a he started in the playoffs yeah but dere Brother since the trade deadline he started every single game yeah but I looked at the total yes but what we’re saying is when you start half of the Season plus the playoffs you’re a starter you’re the starter okay you’re the starter you just ain’t no brother damn and again you start every game with a goddamn play other he missed one game with injur but the games that he did play he was a starter and he played 35 minutes it was just a Tik Tock [Laughter] yeah any other like important things about the series that y’all expecting to see I want to see the coaching battle see who can make adjustments the better best on the Fly think this is going to be a really big test for Joe moula there’s a lot of question marks to his coaching last time they was in the finals very interested to see what happens now he just opened up a good can of warms what do you do for either team if you when you lose this somebody’s got to lose um if you’re the Dallas Mavericks obviously you you hate that you lost but you still feel really good about the now in the future if you’re the Celtics and you lose this one you’re Furious there’s no way you make six out of eight Conference Finals and have zero championships to to to have of it when you have again it’s not a the Merit but like the easiest path to the finals and the first time you go against a healthy team you lose like that would be detrimental I don’t care that the top two players are 26 and 27 years old they’ve been in this moment before they should be the favorite and if they lose it is a failure if you ask me and you already extended Drew holiday you got to pay Derek white so like you now injury Financial thing tum mess up his ankle then obviously all of this they gonna keep running it back because unlike the Timberwolves they dominated the entire NBA they dominated the playoffs and they got to the final so they’re going to say hey we just got to keep we go to go again yeah I think Boston more likely to do it in terms of like franchise wise too than the timber will just unless Jaylen Brown Say Amen I don’t know if seen a team be as successful as a Celtics without a a piece of jewelry to match it yeah this team is always good all like in the last eight years entire career of brown and Tatum they’ve been good no jewelry is like you have to think about it that’s all you just have to think about it not saying that you got to trade one of the other yeah but you already know trade the trade one of the Jays is going to start if they lose those rumors are going to start I got to start stretching start now because jayen Brown got um Conference Finals MVP and they were saying Tatum didn’t look too happy Tatum look happy enough are we being real I told y’all that’s what they was going with are we being real I told y did he look happy enough in my video of the post gameer that I I said in the video I said hey be ready y’all be prepared tomorrow they’re going to say something about this in a way which is on other s he seen Luca try to give his hat to Lively yeah I just don’t understand it Michael Finley was not letting Luka have that celebration beer yeah not on camera he wasn’t what I’ve watched that footage what could Jason Tate have done differently to make it seem like he was I guess hogged him a little bit he gave up on the head like good job boy but you know what’s funny people who want to find things are going to find things yeah that’s just the internet oh cuz if he would have been happy like is he he no no no it was like is he okay with not being the best player he’s so excited that J I would have been suspicious if he was doing too much I judge people on how you always act you always act if he was like Yeah Boy that’s what you supposed to do and we don’t really see him act like that all time he the he’s trying too hard to act like this ain’t affecting him which it is it just be you if your per person is who they’ve always shown us to be then I accept for what it is our good friend perk had went on TV and said that it’s jayen Brown’s team that was another conversation that happened last week they had the same conversation the last time they was in the finals to Chris Middleton who was the Batman yeah perk we love you at that time he was perk we love you but you got some take out there my boy you got some takes that’s the one that made the most exciting one of the week is him saying that he gave up his uh voting oh to choices cuz he uh picked Rudy goar he said Rudy goar was ruining the defensive play of the Year award it’s probably my favorite Perkin take ever it’s so hilarious you know what’s even crazier what’s that I agree stop giving that man that award it’s done it’s wi be turn stop giving that turn yeah I need to start seeing a defensive player of the year guard the other team best player bro when the awards be coming out if Wy ain’t ready to get in that CH against Steph he don’t get that award it’s so crazy that and Drew holl got a guard yic yes it’s crazy as hell to see Rudy Gober getting blamed for why Luca doged ass was doing everybody that’s why R go is a great a great teammate but that’s what come with the territory though being honest Draymond Green would have got his ass cooked too and he up there like hater but like when somebody win the MVP and they don’t don’t good with they that’s the first they going to say hey man J should have got the MVP last year bro last year when Joel got it but that didn’t happen to Y at all I ain’t SE a single conversation about yoke losing in the second round about him not being the MVP of the league I’m sure we can go find that I really I don’t I don’t know if I’ve seen it all it was so much excitement for Anthony Edwards that I think it kind of was like oh he’s the next Jordan if they wasn’t so busy saying he was the next Jordan they would have got found something they would have found something the real thing is if people have pre-existent biased sours of player whether it be from the last couple and then that player fails then it’s time people already hated Joel embiid and then he wins the MVP and then lose in the second round now it’s like we should have gave it to your people already hated Rudy goar and now they get they flame out I log on Twitter I see at least one post where it’s Joel andb with Conference Finals or like conference points zero it’s I saw one that said uhuh Isaiah Jackson has Conference Finals points to Jo who did I see Conference Finals appearances was it Dante exom who did I see it for oh man it was somebody random who yes it might have been Dwight po but no Dwight po play it was somebody who had just maybe it was somebody with the timber was empty out there no Wendell Moore Wendell Moore Wendell Moore or Luca Garza Garza one that’s tough um he just gonna have to get there next year bro there’s some there’s some legitimacy to the perk take but I just I like when he take a a a take and it goes over with it that’s what I like it’s the entertainment Factor yeah I definitely think that they’ overdo it the man ain’t got to give his Awards back the man has definitely done his thing but I don’t think it’s nothing wrong with a starting a conversation about how we view how we view what we view defensively in different things I just I I don’t get it because there’s certain players there nothing you could really do like I agree with you what like there was nothing any player in the league could have done to stop what Luca is doing right now I’mma add to the tape I know Clips is working on a 40 minute video of me defending Rudy go M another one they just went against the Suns and he held his own against Kevin Durant and Deon Booker for the entire series the entire because the rest of the other three guys on the floor wasn’t no I mean I mean in space yes he did do his thing in space and those are two of the best ISO players in the league why he doing it against luk because luk is the best ISO player in the league CU I also think on top of that it wasn’t just like you have to score over Rudy they were just also making the right plays like anytime it was over help or anything L y’all want to help up the corner we dishing it like they were just beating them more than just putting the ball in the cup individually I agree that’s why I felt and not to take anything away from from him against the Suns but I just think it was a lot I don’t want to say easier but it was a not as high of a mountain decline when the suns are just so stagnant I I think where it really started was when yic was dogging them but it’s like yish would some [ __ ] I think he had a good defensive series though C part this is the thing about I don’t know if it’s a single person in NBA history that is guarding joic 101 on the Block and stopping him yeah maybe slow him down but stopping it’s not happening yeah who who is the person Bo Dennis Robin breaking his job he got he got him his game because even the the kimbe cook Hakeem I think is y’all hey y’all got y’all got rest in peace bill y’all got Bill Russell twist I think sh I well I got no fo sh probably would have been decent huh Shaq would have been decent he took his ass to the perimeter what we talking about he would have been all K sha was athletic enough to stick with him he would have held his own I’m not saying he would have stopped him but he would have slowed him down decent amount and then give some give me somebody give me somebody Shaq stop they shut down I don’t know so why are we why I don’t know how we dunan he shut down Tim Duncan I think he was saying Tim dun could be one of the player Tim Duncan is a good argument I feel like him and a think David Robinson I thought Tim duckin and David Robinson again slow down not stop yeah yeah but you saying Shaq man Shaq get his ass in that par Shaq never made an all defensive first team by the way never in his life Shaq I don’t have a memory of Shaq shutting somebody down he shut people down by getting him in foul trouble but him guarding on a block and just shutting [ __ ] down I don’t I don’t remember that in my brain If y in the game he shut down right he just talking now he love just talking get you ass shirt to just say just talk but honestly that’s not a bad point when you think about if he get y to foul trouble then hell I agree with that point but that wasn’t his argument he was saying shut him down he was saying shut him down shut down with six foul that was uh that was Jord the be tactic against drumond and whide get all foul one more person to he said uh I I live R freeing that head but we a move that you can’t move that go post with me was Drummond was a top 10 Center at one point I know now he’s a backup one of the better backups and he’s I think he just hit 30 it’s not like he’s 38 he definitely rejuvenated his career compared himself to Kevin dur bro when we was at that Clippers game what we was watching some game and it was Drummond and it was DeAndre Jordan and I was like this used to be a prime time match up back in the day Prime Time hell no for DeAndre Jordan Andre was a prime time no not Prime Time Prim Time you’re right I get what he meant but you’re right good big in the leag for we twe with the prime time prime time is crazy Prime Time CRA I thought y was about to agree with him no no no no I was definitely on my way until you pulled me back that’s why you need friends I’m not saying it was Superstars but to what they is what they doing now that’s why you need I remember I was I seen a while ago somebody’s like uh they was looking at they say uh Andre JMA was starting or whatever and his rebounds was crazy H they like man who who is this dude he’s getting 20 boards a game and they’re just going to make it like his stats I was like bro you not know who Andre Drummond is he like like 15 plus say nuts uh no this is just somebody on no this was in a Discord we went to a prime drumming game you remember when dude was like K lyia bucket oh yeah yeah we went to a game when drum was dogging there’s nothing you can really do to stop his ass from getting he’s the greatest rebound of all time he just got that big body that’s what he say oh okay he’s probably top five though he’s probably the greatest I’ve ever seen like witnessed you think so yeah because I wouldn’t say I saw Dennis Robin like i’ like I’ve seen footage but like I wasn’t sitting there watch Young here’s Drummond’s Prime and rebounder 14.8 per game 13.8 per game 16 per game five 15.6 per game 15.2 per game is he a better rebounder than the white Howard Dwight Howard was a monster I always look at re rebounds if not even just total cuz some people get rebounds and they’re not working for him team’s just like he’s our rebounder so he gets it the greatest rebounds the ones to get the offensive ones basketball reference probably would have had Dwight Howard contested Reb matter of fact I don’t know he was snatching [ __ ] so I don’t even know if they could have counted as contested how much he was just he was yeah I’m looking at one of my favorite rebounders of all time stats Reggie Evans Reggie Evans 2013 he was averaging 4.5 points but knew 11 boards a game regie look at his per 36 Texas A&M is that his college let me look real quick um he went to uh Iowa okay his per 36 is what always got to get find a way to get better just like I was like his per 36 just because he he wasn’t a guy that was playing 30 minutes a game let’s just talk about random players cool that’s my that’s my unplug I’m going start it off wait did you give your Finals Prediction I said that was six six and you said Celtics and six and then we all went Celtics six okay cool all right just wanted to make sure it’s record yesterday a random dude pop in my brain and I had to Google him cuz I was watching I youtubed NBA 2K5 that’s my favorite 2K ever 2K5 was just amazing John Salmons oh that’s a random that’s John Salmons remember that stretch with the bulls yes sir man you were just he like two game winners he just yes he just shoot the ball he was so good man he was so good Miami University random players um thr one out there KB make a defense to twoo that’s kind of tough you doing stipulations because I don’t want to to say a random player I want to say a random player that I enjoyed I could just give you a Rand like I could say mo Evans CHR Anderson okay yeah bman Tat It Up yeah t my whole body I don’t give up he one he was one of those dudes that was gonna come off the bench block shots and just play with all heart until Paul George baptized him true I was like a lot of those bodybuilder now I like those nuggets too or a lot of those nuggets cuz they would like pop up on South Park so you can see Chris Anderson you can see you could see those players when they went to like the to the stadium that’s how you got introduced to them huh no that was one episode right no I feel like they’ve been there a couple okay what’ he say Quincy AC you bringing Quincy AC back again baby I did shout out to Quincy AC qu AC was G catch him a body what college you went to um anybody up here Arizona nah I I can’t get start Baylor yes sir oh I could have probably got to Baylor I can see quiny Miller I don’t know why plays in a big three down oh does he okay Q Miller does he still be catching bodies like that oh don’t ask me nothing about it sick as hell I just know he’s there only memory I have a Quincy is when he got his ass rocked by Iggy y’all remember that that clip igy wrapped his ass remember him touched the flow yeah remember he Rock somebody too but I do remember that one yeah him and dece Bellow y’all know nothing about that sick as hell gonna make a Randy Foy build later oh Randy Foy what college he went now Legend you can get there I think he play he you get there he was in a backourt with somebody thick somebody thick oh do you know North Carolina about Kar went to Villanova you could have got I think you could have got that Mikey um I don’t know random play is tough bro random play is real tough how about I give you I remember one day I was I know Kurt himer is a random but I was like I remember me and P I was like what is Kurt Heimer doing like cuz he was such a good like mind for the basketball he’s like a coach in like South Dakota or something like that really he does something with basketball you know we got he like a bulls ambass Ambassador too like not an ambassador I mean um consultant real H that mean so like he like gives them advice on tra something I don’t know if it’s trades or it’s the not May he is like you know we got that Kirk hry story his M ain’t that great which one he had this girl at of school where she had a Kirk hry Jersey and he had got traded away remember and years later when he came back to the Bulls she brought that same Jersey back out always ended up back on the Bulls I don’t know how many times he ended up back on the Bulls he got traded first to the Hawks or the wizk I think it was the Hawks yeah I think it was Hawks and wizards back to the Bulls back to the Bulls I love Kirk iron with the bus yeah man I love Kirk too you know what you know greatest of dra class man was it like seven yeah yes it was greatest of his draft class and LeBron James draft class you uh you know what else I’ve seen speaking about a random player uh and this is before Timberwolves and um the Patriots got on they say re Sher could be like but they was saying Gerald Green played for all those teams in the Conference Finals yeah yeah damn he’s the only player that played for all four Conference Finals things he played for the Celtics the Tim wolves he played for the uh that one year with the Suns I thought he was about to take off he played for the Pacers 2K leg he 2K 2K I’m talking about like continually like that’s year with the Suns man I don’t know how he Ain win six man of the year he was killing what player you know with n and a half fingers man I just watched those highlights when I made that build I was playing with yesterday I’m I watched those highlights I’m like I’m going jro green Jr jald green was such a cheat code on 2K he was fourth in MIP year it was nothing he couldn’t do on 2K he had a smooth jump shot he was dunking everything he was dunking everything B my brother bub ain’t really know so I used to pick the sons he like you getting Sons I bust his ass he was so mad he was like J green you need be doing all this [ __ ] I’m like little do you know do you know I’m trying to find like who the most be like that too he had a smooth jumper orando like that too who are the most random players to get like Award votes you know um here’s some here’s a few like are we gonna is this like just voters just being stupid or is it could be yeah on basketball reference when you look at their stats you go all the way to the right it tell you where they play yeah cuz this guy let me see what he averaged he Aver college did he go to he did not go to college he’s a form born player he averaged 12 this season on this season no no this the season I’m referring to is all the way back in 2015 okay 2015 what position does he play we going to try to guess forward more power forward this was almost exclusively power for jersey number Jersey number at this time he was 20 but he he wore number 12 and he also went number 28 at one point he was only in the league for Monte unas from the Rockets Monte unas he get a uh most improved player oh which I guess the Rockets Fair yeah he went from five points per game to 12 Lefty shot was nice with the Rockets yeah also that same year that was the year Demari Carroll got a most improved player vote he also ended up 15th in DP um that was the year that they won all those games so they was like Hey hwks did something here some awards I guess uh this Jimmy Butler’s year though Tyler Zeller got a first place most improved player vote what he went from five points per game to 10 points per game on a really bad um Team this is so weird to look at shout out to they was late to the party baseball was always had this baseball reference yeah where you can see like oh man mie bets was 13th in MVP one season that [ __ ] I feel like that [ __ ] means so much more in baseball for sure cuz they in basketball the the MVP ballot is five names yeah in baseball I think it’s like 10 damn so you can say like I was the ninth best player in my my conference that year yeah you know you can’t really do that in the NBA we should just split up MVPs two MVPs Eastern Conference MVP Western Conference MVP next who would have been in Eastern Conference MVP this year Tatum Tatum they would have gave it to Tatum wow yeah unless Joel was I mean Joel everybody else is out west huh Joel Jo if Joel was healthy it would probably with Joel but since he missed that month it would have went to Tatum wow I do like having one MVP though yeah I do the league would been still or LCA it would have wanted them to no it would have been jannis Giannis literally was fourth in MVP so he he was the first in EAS so beest Dan Brunson Dan Tatum damn I guess guess do you remember Maurice Evans yeah yeah play for the Lakers yeah Mo Evans yeah Atlanta Hawks yeah a lot of different teams uh do we have a real unplug though outside of Hoops no we can get about it real unplugged is my back hurt so I need to stretch more before we go I woke up my fo was hurt you got some neck pain yeah for real yeah I’m old man we we old defit do you ever feel like this from your monitors like you looking no cuz I only I almost exclusively have it after a day of golf I only get sore it’s so crazy from golf but I definitely believe yesterday sitting in that chair playing that game did not help my back me sitting like this also is not Happ but it’s pain I told you I I bought this one thing and all it is is like a little cushion that you attach to the back of your chair instead of you like I got I got a cushion that came with my chair though I wonder if that’s it I’m going to send you a picture is it is it for the head though I know came from my head U I’mma send it to you you said D you want to guess how long we’ve been going how long an hour no for real yeah yeah oh let’s have it unplugged it’s only been an hour that’s but that’s like if you look at all of our episodes throughout the years that’s kind of what happens once we get to the last couple teams it’s less things to talk about what’s y favorite commercial from your childhood the reason I asked this is Reach This puff Reach This puff was in the car SP in that commercial was he rapping in there too like he got chance rapper when he was young it look like him don’t it no cuz Commercials Suck now I love the one it used to come on during The Simpsons it was like an animated one and he rolled out the carpet 773 202 Lun it’s crazy how you remember all those little like Jingles Jing yeah yeah know P push did the I’m loving this [ __ ] I found that out yesterday he you did I found out yeah he diabolical he did Arby’s too what’s there we have the meats yeah we have the meats that’s pretty good my like that’s pretty he did the BK did he really I was about to say he on a legendary Ro y’ you know what y’all remember the Quiznos one do y’all remember Jamie Fox that’s what he used to do on his show he used to write Jingles yes yes bro Jamie Fox show his whole job was to write Jingles one of them oh my God and the hotel obviously job oh my this is going to bother the hell out of me CU I used to remember when he was in the studio it’s like right that’s got I feel like it’s got the toughest thing is just making it catchy that’s all it’s got to be gole it I got I even think now Super Bowl commercials suck like they not as interesting as they used to be when we were younger Super Bowl commercials was like Dam near like the second most enjoyable thing to watch besides the game now I don’t give a damn about those commercials that’s cuz they beat do y’all like the commercials where it’s like y’all don’t know what it is so basically like the last seg of the commercial where they kind of show the Y like those commercials I feel like we don’t really get those much no more I don’t like those commercials why the che commercial like so different you don’t know what the check commercial is about oh right yeah do you know what the cck commercial is about when it first come on the cck commercial Cad and Sh oh I have no idea I couldn’t tell you what it’s about what is it do y’all know it’s um it’s I know it I forgot but I I forgot yeah I so is that bad marketing if we don’t remember we remember the jingle we remember them singing but we don’t remember what they were selling us I know that no flex it’s lemon Peppa wings wings yeah they know better they know better I know the ice [ __ ] one is about star what were you listening to on the way here Yannis has one too um I was listening to beon oh no that wasn’t when you pulled up do you remember cuz it was blasting oh sunflower was it sunflower that’s a good song post myone it and S Le yeah the Spiderman yeah yeah I know before that was Beyonce and Jay-Z um we are uh what is that song ah got the name of it is they hit is they [ __ ] I’m mad on r no AP [ __ ] um he gonna make me mad cuz now I don’t gotta think about it own uh I mean Bonnie and Clyde cuz this is like a this is like the classic JayZ and beon I hear it in my head too I’m trying to crazy and love I was mad at myself cuz I like [ __ ] I was like you always come in with a blast blasting 8:00 in the morning every little thing that you do that you do it’s just between do you turn it down when you get out the car or do you get back in the car and it’s back to full blast I I catch myself off car sometimes but like a lot of times my Spotify it doesn’t start playing right away like how y’all have apple music so like the first songs y’all say it’s ADHD no no no they used to be they used to be little past that now yeah yeah that’s like when you had to plug your phone into the office Spotify for me doesn’t play immediately when I had Apple music before to pass it would yeah it plays the last song you listen I like the first thing I do when I like I feel like I I check the volume even when I’m pulling it say say say I’m pulling into the parking lot I’m usually turning my music down as I’m pulling in you can hear your where you parking hear where you parking and also you just don’t want to stir the neighbors it help your vision I didn’t realize how low to the ground your car was to the other well I don’t care about what the neighbors thinking because do the neighbors put out their cigarettes when I’m driving nope all right then oh bro I hate getting a whiff of a strong keeping my music get the L IE like unless I’m just on some IGN it was funny we came home yesterday my neighbor upstairs he was blowing that gas he was just sitting on his balcony just laughing and smoking what was it Strawberry Shortcake I think it was that hairband uh he always said that you can feel it around your head yeah tell we need to get y’all to test viola on the YouTube video yeah it’s one by the okis uhhuh what is whose brand is that again Harington Al Harrington Herington still making moves outside of basketball they say he made more money during this than he did in his NBA player single season not like career damn we need to start us a numbers on the pack we got on pack we got numbers on P we might as well have to we might have to get that marijana license you like that we we got have that pet called red Kool-Aid Wow have you spitting up that red that blood oh we going have this [ __ ] that’s called not convincing you hit this they they can’t nothing convince you that you ain’t High bik rain bikeing a rain is another screen biking R wait wait oh bikeing rain oh I like that I grinding a build it’s that Grill this that that bill grinder what you on construction workers going to love that I bought this bill I bought this bill grinder for the grab I do hell no how do you Market that it make your time go faster make your time go faster on the worst you going you done play 10 my career games and ain’t even noticed you thought You’ been playing the the Nuggets this whole time and it’s the whole series in the playoffs L know you got all cold zones now too cuz your Tim is so off oh man y’all read or watch the NCA football stuff yes I’m looking at some of the clips for man it looks it looks good I’m a little I’m a little this is what I’m going to say it’s going to be fun because we haven’t had in a long I am going to be so bad at this game I’m going to be so bad there’s ways to pitch the ball when you getting tackled think you got to when it’s wet outside it’s a way you hand the ball off I’m going to be bad bro but I’m going the thing I’ve seen is how like when people are you could be encouraged and you can just switch your user while like mid playay which hasn’t really been in like there never really been in football you going be comp you gonna play mut when it come out July 11th or something like that they gonna have we gonna be in Vegas yeah we yeah we we did yeah that’s L when we leave for V maybe but I’m G like I’m happy to do I think so is my time wrong yeah July 11th no no no no no oh 19th 19th yeah but I think they were saying three days earlier so 16th but we should be back CU I think it’s like around 11th are you going to stream that game can I ask you about streaming I’m streaming that game for sure I stream the uh revamp they ready for my my my series new bull series on the way by the way too next week what why do you stream because I enjoy it it’s fun he all yall he Y in your business like y’all R in a company together I’m just joking get in get in get in his ass no I’m just I’m just asking why did you ask him like when you ask him I’m ask you why did you ask him that because so I I make content and stuff with the idea of like growth it goes somewhere yeah yeah not everybody has that like I’ve talked to creators that legitimately don’t really give a damn about how many subscribers how many viewers or whatever they just like making that form of content so Mike might just be one of those people like he has his tight-knit community and that’s all he cares about but he doesn’t really care to like become a guy that’s averaging 5,000 F before you asked him that question what would you have thought his answer would have been I I think answer was exactly what I thought it was was which is wrong with why I enjoy streaming so much and as of late like a lot of times the game just been ended late and I just don’t feel like booing up at 11: but it’s just I enjoyed watching other people have that community and have like I don’t know it was just like a place for people to hang out and I always just enjoyed that you got a tighted community for sure like you got your guys and like like my Discord numbers they’ve been going crazy and I like I I like that because I just like having like a bunch of people in the community that like there’s people there’s chats that I don’t talk in but I’ll peep in and like damn they got people talking about this and that like yeah sometimes I look at your Discord and you got they got like four to five people in there playing 2K together um so they just use your place as a hub and the way you you run these tournaments and stuff that like it’s now like it’s not just a name it’s not just that’s augs but we play with augs so much that he feels like you know cool and everything and I think that’s really dope um but I always want to see do you have one stream a week that’s not related to something that you’re comfortable with you know what I was thinking about that too cuz I I also just meant to tell y’all in general I don’t know if y’all really tell I’m excited as hell to move and have like just more space that changes your outlook and your like motivation a ton yeah and I can’t wait to like create my own stream room and I like put stuff up and have everything like that yeah cuz right now you’re in your front room yeah and it’s just like I feel like even then I’m going to have my couch in there still my TV in there so I feel like I have times where like I’m literally just watching the game on the couch with the people or whatever don’t overdo it though cuz one thing I found out in my rooms [ __ ] can get real hot if you got three TVs some monitor Compu I do them post game hot as [ __ ] right hot man I go through that cuz now CU you know I have two PCS basically I have my gaming PC and then I have my productivity PC and then I have my iMac and all of those be running at the same time sometimes I have mine in my front room now so it’s a lot of space and so it don’t be a hot but you know used to be my room mhm I’m going back into like a basically a single bedroom and the floor is this carpet too so you know that’s going to even add to it but that’s also great for your content though you ain’t got to worry about and bouncing off but I would have had some like when I first moved I a have nothing right but now I have I just said I have couch in there I have stuff I can put on the walls like I’m not really worried about as much with the echo that’s good you already had your couch you don’t have to buy a new one yeah yeah she’s got a couch too so I was was lowkey debating cuz I I like my couch I was like we could put in the front room whatever cuz that could be like the entertainment but she’s like nah I want The Comfy Couch cuz the couch I got you can’t really lay down like it’s like so you don’t either what happened is it leather CL okay yeah I don’t I don’t when is the move uh literally July 19th is when we move oh okay I would want to lay on the leather couch leather oh so when you start getting on college football I’m going have a head start on you yeah I was already see I was seeing some things and they were talking about like some of the things you can do in there were the same things you can do obviously as football but like they talking about the hot routes he like you need no abilities for high routs and I’m hey that’s cool for me cuz my whole whole time playing always that’s be there’s a lot of mad different different thing it looks so madish but I’m the environment and because it’s College I’m going to be bought in did they say anything about the uh like my career uh not that I saw I mean so many people have videos out maybe somebody did but the article I red didn’t mention much about it when do you get your keys July 19th and you’re moving on the 19th as well you’re doing it all one day I’m told you I’m getting movers bro yeah bro if you can afford I’m putting like I’m packing everything up and I’ll have everything ready but they G to move cuz first of all in the place I in the uh place I moving to one of the first things she told us there ain’t no elevators in the building yeah what floor you on the third floor Dam you just like I was when we had to move all that stuff all the way up to the third floor sheesh third floor but this the the stairs are so wide okay like it’s probably about like seven to eight steps then it’s like flat and just another seven to eight steps so first of all they going to be moving that but even if I was it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world cuz you know sometimes you got to go through like these small areas like the stairs of spiraling or something like that like we about that and Glory Road to Glory you starred in college now no high school that’s disappointing damn you can’t pick where you well I guess you still pick where you want to go but you you know you want to play that senior season out get the offers that’s all you know what I mean yeah when do you have to be out of your current place not till July 31st so I have room in time or I have time that’s kind of how I think we had like almost like a month to I like that too because it allows you if you want to to get your internet set up get all of that so once you actually moved in you’re moved in completely that’s what we did with our last house like KB I could say right now and I don’t feel like any of us would do it different that internet the first thing that I’m worried about yeah are you um are you going to clean the whole house yourself or you going to hire someone to clean it um I don’t know probably Elena gonna do that oh that’s you saying that’s something a woman supposed to do so problematic right now no but that’s just the type of person she is like she she is very proactive in that type of stuff she’s clean yeah we thought we thought about moving we just not gonna do it he’ll just be doing something to do something I love my landlord so much that I don’t want to move until I have to he is that’s my dog man I feel lucky to have somebody like him you feel me so I’m a good landlord not everybody got that for real so you still keeping contact with your old landord but shout out to Jonathan cumberly he was really cool with me even when I got my dog he just met my dog today this morning when I took her out he’s like let me see let me meet my new tenant I haven’t met her yet but like when you when I when I first moved in in the lease it’s like if you get a pet it’s a extra whatever when I got her he was like n no you good y’all y’all keep the spot clean y’all ate one no complaints my landlord didn’t charge us for I she said she said um you can have another one if you want to as well she was cool with it but she didn’t know we already had another one perfect because I already got her he just don’t had a feeling you would say that he just do everything first class something happened with the sliding door um so he like I got it the my fridge was over freezing I’m like I can’t be at first I’m thinking it’s something I’m I’m doing so I stopped I’m like I ain’t buying nothing Frozen I just want to see something and still overdid it he took it back moved it in and out bought a new one just going through all the type of things even when the cicas like the cic we have the cicas very bad his son to come through and like clean them and knock them out and they just come right back but they just like to do [ __ ] first CL for the first for yesterday was the first time I really heard the cicas and that’s damn you don’t go outside at all right no I do I feel like every time I was in my car like I just had the AC on and it’s like I couldn’t really hear it out there High face it but I had the sun roof down and it was so loud now that’s all I I be in the house and I be hearing it now we experienced the most aggressive ones I’ve ever seen at they like six of them landed right on my my they were Bing at us like the ones by my house they’ll land on you if they fall cuz they don’t know no better but the the golf course was they were trying to get you that was so strange I think I was taking I’ve never seen that before I was taking out the garbage like a couple nights ago and Elena was with me you be scared no but it was dark outside and I just heard her say like there’s something by you or something and she was talking about to say kada and I swear that dramatic ass call hey I was gone I I I had to dip at least like 50 to 100 feet before I look back and she talking about where is you going yeah also had warned me when we was out there he was like hey Derek you got a A Kade on the back of your leg and he was like I didn’t want you to sit on like squish it but then it it flew away they were out he was going to get up and they was going to think it was barbecue sauce do y’all believe in like Divine timing or signs or stuff like that like everything happens for a reason is that what you something like that yeah I do think everything I think everything happens for a reason why so we we went to go tour this house it it came in the market like a month ago and I told y we were going to see it yeah great house I would I would say damn near perfect house yeah it’s expensive obviously and I was like ah we can afford it but just because you can afford something don’t mean you should buy you should buy absolutely so I was like about Ro we’ll chill we’ll chill we’ll chill um and then we let it sit for like two weeks nothing happened and our realist is setting us up like hey they don’t have any offers if you guys are interested we like [ __ ] it let’s go tour one more time right we tour one more time and then again I say the exact same thing it’s a great house nearly perfect but just more expensive than I wanted it to be we tell a realtor we’re out you ain’t got to tell us nothing about this house we don’t care if it get offers or nothing like that couple days ago she H us back up okay hey the offer that they were going to accept completely fell through we found out that the people that are selling the house are moving to Florida like in a week so they just want to get they trying to pop this house off so in my mind you like let me lowball them I that that was my original thing like they want this I try I was going to cut the evaluation in the fourth I ain’t going to lie cuz worst thing they get to say is what no about I got a house anyway but the fact that it went on the market it was off the market then went back on the market make me feel like maybe that’s like a sign that I should be like going after this house you know what I’m saying m i mean maybe but maybe I’m overthinking it no I mean maybe maybe you should just lowball them see what happen if you think that the number that you want to give if you think this is the number that I would feel comfortable purchasing this house mhm [ __ ] I talk to my dad about it he was like yeah you should but also I think they y’all going to be moving soon I’m like what cuz I think to a lot of people in order to do Sports media you have to live in New York or la oh so I think that’s where he’s thinking like would you get into real estate I thought about it it’s just too complicated for me to attack I feel like that’s something you got to like really tackle tackle and I got so many pieces of work that I already got I feel the same way about things like the idea I don’t like to get into things what I’m not really like driven into I understand why people do it you you get what I’m saying but like I feel like I’m in my best when I’m really tapped in and it’s an expensive thing to get into all the way like I I try y’all know me I try a lot of different hobbies and stuff but those usually don’t spend like I it don’t cost no money to go vinyl shopping or thrifting and for real estate you got to have that Capital up top and if it ain’t for you it ain’t you know what I’m saying um I one thing I would like to maybe entertain is coaching I think that would be fun coach of basketball yeah I think it be fun I had to ask because I didn’t know if it was going to be football or something uh football I I don’t think I I don’t think I know enough about football to be a football coach hey was R go be a problem defensively in that series no as his friends might as his friends what is he coaching the big man no I think he could be a coach I think he could be a coach not now but like if he put his mind to a coaching and he went through the the processes of learning coverages and stuff like that he could get there for sure I think he could too blind obviously no yeah I wouldn’t go blind will he no like I wanted to start small like maybe go like middle school or something he could but would he no okay I don’t think so think would be a lot of work to do that man that’s what I say so much of a commitment I think that if you make your like I’m again we know you can and we would love to see you do it for sure but it’s one of those things that like when you make that commitment it’s like cuz you’re not coaching you’re raising men yeah you know what I’m saying and that’s like a lot of stuff cuz I would say so say you were starting in middle school and I I had these same ideas too and I this is part of the reason why I a middle school is cuz you have to don’t you have to be like some of teacher or some like no you don’t have to be a teacher okay teacher a we should start a be a lunch chaper on they gonna get you to job I think dere would be a great assistant coach but I think I thought he meant head coach I think he’ be an assistant coach right now I think I be I want to be more so an assistant coach think do that right now yeah I give opport when you talking about being a head coach being somebody in in young people’s lives and constantly having to be there especially the type of dude that you are it’s gonna be so much especially having a a small kid on your own not on your own but having a small kid now you think you could give tough love I don’t know if I can see you giving somebody tough love that was the first thing I thought of like Derrick is such a nice person like when he has to choose somebody out give mik tough love right now what’s the like what is it no give Austin tough love uh oh give Austin the toughest love you can right now that sounds kind of crazy when you think about it kind of hard to do the toughest love you give right now cuz like I feel like it has to be situational like I think also you need to learn what people need the tough love and what people need I think the thing that need tough love on he’s been better at as of recent getting on time yeah he’s been see how you knew that instantly yeah you knew that so why would you ask me problem right so why why would you the fact that you ask me that let me know that that’s not I think that like especially for the younger ages it’s not even always about the ex those it’s more so about like mending that team together and watching them grow and helping said rais man yeah that’s more so think a good thing about coaching is don’t play favorites I think that you also got to hold everybody to the same standard now when that that student you got a five star on your on your team you going to hold him to the same same standard he got that or he got that student who’s got his his mom and dad that didn’t doed 25,000 got them a new court he going to have to play de yeah you got you got to play the Politics as well man I hey when y sty player like he his grade is not up and he can’t play you gonna have to I technically I can’t play him I’m an idiot now I thought you say he had one time he was ineligible that’s at burdge cuz we all was just doing whatever the hell but in high school I was always I’m trying to think about moments when we hoop where somebody need a tough love H he’s always the one that remember when uh Mikey couldn’t take a charge oh oh yeah what you what have you done in that was you done the same thing stop practice I would have made him keep doing yeah I think that’s the right thing to do too if everybody else stood there and took a charge you have Coach made him take seven to eight charges in a row because every time he just kept moving out the way he’s like that’s not a charge he want that contact if everybody else stood here and took that charge you have to do the same oh wait wait as a coach out of the two years we’ve played together who would have been your favorite player two coach you think no one knows person who would have been the guy that you was like that’s my guy as a head coach wait what are you talking about playing where oh you talking about like in high school yeah oh um because I got a name in mind I think Larry Larry or I would see I would only think that was Larry because he’s just funny but I also think Larry had a high ceiling he just didn’t apply himself to the high you put that pressure on to he had another level that he could have got to I think he would have been that that assistant coach going the head coach back I thought he was going to go with Duo because Duos was like Draymond greenes no I didn’t see the I didn’t I mean he could he could play but I didn’t see like the I thought Larry had another level okay I thought Larry could have probably you saying du had but I think Duos yeah may have had a lower ceiling but he did the right stuff most of the time and as a coach you you think about ceilings and stuff but also you just want to win that goddamn game that’s true and these dudes don’t play the same position so you can play both if I was a coach his sou would have been built around Ontario Washington body with us right that’s my boy my boy was first in the picking up full full court first in the Sprints oh man work ethic out definitely had to work e it’s so funny cuz people that don’t know what we talking about they just listening and don’t know these people but they become a part of the lore of our show full court he going to be he going to be reaching at you but he got that world he got the speed to still be with you yeah he he still play like that to this day he was the first I seen guard like likeo he call F okay watch this what’s up remember he told Sean I was was you there I was if you hit Ram while I’m guarding you you score you keep the ball and what he do he hit hit tell somebody if you hit R Point crazy but everybody home we was playing like a knockout like a one king of the Court King and my homie Ontario was he was guarding and he told um Sean our other homie like cuz he had air ball like a couple times and then Sean I guess scored and got the talker and he told him like oh oh are you on now basically like oh oh you don’t remember what okay he’s like all right bet I’mma guard you if you touch the rim if you just touch Rim it’s a point for you and I thought he was just being funny but he really was like clamping him up and he didn’t hit the rim and I’m like oh my gosh that is the most and I’m just glad y’all was there to witness it cuz if I came and told y’all that y’all would be like ain’t no way but no that man said if you hit Rim you keep the ball and you score and he air ball that’s some dis that’s so disrespectful bro matter of fact what i ph at that is so disrespectful who would you have coached KB I I think it would have been dubos is my type of player he would have been your type I mean he won’t be my star but he’s one of those dudes I wouldn’t pull off the court often I can see that damn that’s crazy cuz that that was like my spot how was M how was his backup or at least sophomore a year yeah you played the four huh I was a wing oh actually I don’t know what position I I think I was like two through four I know your position what left out true that’s coming from somebody that didn’t have a JY to start the the I was more so on the team than you who who would who would have been your favorite play of to coach um I don’t know I feel like it probably been Larry too but that’s just cuz I could have probably joked around with him that’s where your head is at I think I had a whole different M joking around with my players is why on a serious level though yeah I said Tero but it would have also been you there was this summer where I think I was going into my senior year and onario was going into his junior year where me and Ontario would go home and we live right next to each other and we would go into the basement and play 2K and while we would play we would talk about you we would say bro please let DK come on Varsity cuz if we get Derek we about to do some dangerous stuff in this confence Mr Richardson at practi sometimes would be like Derek could be playing on varsity as a freshman but like I never applied myself to be we used to sit there and be like bro I think that’s fair he would we you would took you would have took a big t spot Big T [ __ ] cuz that was Tyler spot wasn’t it no it was Brock we no no no no no no first year was Brock yeah no yeah we went you w the fresh one we talking about this you was like a sophomore um it was going to be Tyler we always looked at as like a power forward yeah he was crazy cuz he’s like 6’4 65 yeah at high school but he like to shoot very pringus isk and we was like Barrett is gonna be a freshman you know what I mean he gonna be cool but he’s gonna be a freshman have him we ain’t got no questions we ain’t got to worry about bear with no foul trouble we ain’t gota worry about him if he have any soft moments it was just too much to try to put all that on him as a freshman so we like man we get Derek no matter what Tyler or Barrett doing we got some real reinforcements in that front Court they don’t know Prime Derek was like a true athlete like a true like for somebody his size to run as fast as he could when he was like when you were like in shape and stuff even when he was out of shape he tested better than all of us when we did the comound stuff a’t wrong okay I guess he he had the best overall combine he tested better than your ass okay we can run it back um but me and onario love that he could score inside but he had that sweet spot pick and pop so it’s like well we get D we could do the pick and roll he could hit him with a pocket pad he was oh we watched one of y’all summer league practices Derek was terrorizing them folk in there L talking talking him up he had I remember I came in there one time cuz maybe y’all went before us Derek in there like a like a coal miner like a I don’t even want to say it was it was take to on sweat in give me the ball cuz like the man the ball they was block heavy so like all I had to do was hit them with a few fakes and it was easy or like it was Brandy A I just knew they were too slow so like it was like a little recipe to whoever was guarding me I kind of knew what they that boy was offensive Guru then seven years later get the export and say five eight white man I don’t want to post you up yeah I I used to really envision myself like being a basketball player but then yeah CU at one game you had 22 points yeah is that your career high yeah 22 22 Jersey yeah career high Mike 22 off 15 16 16 that’s high school I think he hit his career high before he injured himself and bur Ridge I yes you did that sophomore year and bidge I had 61 okay mikeith I had a Le I had a sum League game was crazy okay Mike Smith that’s crazy that is crazy super crazy cuz Mike Smith had like 47 or something right I think I think he hit over 50 in one game okay shout out to the guy what would you say um I think in summer league I had a game where I was like maybe 18 19 but in like high school I think it’s like 15 16 oh we count summer league sum League I had six I thought I was on that g summer league one of my two on Inay performances came in summer league oh no no no not two and one no two and ones two and ones cuz they didn’t you didn’t shoot the free throw so it’s like was the point so I got was actually I hated that and and Coach Nelson was like your offseason commitment is why you made this team and I went to one Summer League game I scored six just talking but John and Mikey Miller went to zero so I had that up I had that Advantage damn your commit John on the summer on the sophomore team would have been crazy crazy cuz he would have played the B Team games with us you know mean Kentucky layup he would have missed oh man Kentucky hey stop hey stop talking on John not too much on John I’m just saying we had to hit a certain number in a certain amount of time we knew John wasn’t like that on offense but defensively he was going to come with it KCK was a genius thing to start off practice I used to hate when John guarded me bro no I ain’t gonna lie last time we played Hoops with John he pissed me off cuz they was literally not guarding him he’s still going to score bad like I’m talking about they one guarding him underneath the rim he’s a golfer now that was the worst version of John I’ve ever seen he keep did he actually play golf in high school I didn’t know not in high school like on the team but his dad like a big golfer so he used to play with his dad all the time okay so he’s probably in a friend group no joke probably the best golfer but he also said he hasn’t played a long time we seen that that top off like the weird he ain’t he one of the best Bowlers too yes he’s got the he’s got the mooki bets Hobbies [ __ ] just good at darts but then good cornhole player what you the where you toss the little uh bean bag in the hole corn corn oh that’s what it’s called or bags I guess we call it bags bags I know Jules is a really good bowler like I I remember going we hang out and not invite KB in them oh my God KB would have known too if he was invited even get messy was just towards the end of the podcast oh that beef was that that beef was bigger than Kendrick and Drake that beef was crazy the cameras we appreciate y’all watching listening and enjoying this episode of numbers on the board we’ll be back on Tuesday um still got a ways away from the NBA Finals man still ways away I’m happy all those players get a chance to wrestle well luk and Kar sit back relax D Lively next what if we come back to 81 to 80 first game I love it okay okay peace y’all