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The Phoenix Suns have hired Mike Budenholzer as their next head coach after being swept by the Minnesota Timberwolves this season. Colin Cowherd and Paul Pierce discuss what’s next for the Phoenix Suns, as well as the Denver Nuggets tying their series with the Minnesota Timberwolves. Plus, they ask if there should be any concerns for the Boston Celtics in their series with the Cleveland Cavaliers.

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Paul Pierce a Basketball Hall of Famer is now joining us in the herd he was on Undisputed this morning 19 years with the NBA you know I was thinking about this 19 years in the NBA that that’s a run that is I’ll say I’ll say 17 what I mean Clippers two years was kind of like on the bench player coach they were paying you yeah well like I’ll probably say Washington Wizards was last year after I call game that was it but when you have been in the league this long you obviously went through some Wars those Laker yeah those Laker championship series were huge the Denver Minnesota ones Weird Paul yeah Denver looked cooked they did did you think the series was over after two games I never I would never count a champion team out you know what I’m saying Colin because I was like looking at the the the past TI I was like man I wonder if there’s any what teams came back from O2 losing on the road and so I looked at all the teams and the one that stood out the most was the Rockets 94 you know they be Phoenix and they went on to win the championship so but previously previously they weren’t Champs these this team is a champion so they got something inside that can be like all right we can find another gear okay so you played with the Celtics you were Champions so what is the what when you say play like Champions the year after after you did get to the finals I believe again lost to the Lakers meta hit those threes but what is it about being a champion does it change practice habits thought what does it do it changes like your mentality your confidence and you understand the road and you know a place that you can get to if you need to get there again mentally you you know it’s hard like I don’t know if you hear certain champions in basketball I don’t know how to is and other sports say like they push the button so like that means they know how to take it up another level and you guys did and we knew how to do that because this the year we went to the second finals we all we was the fourth seed and we were like all right you know we were an older team but we knew how to play at another level that we didn’t play in a regular season because of us being a championship team because we know what that looks like we know what that feels like you know and they know what that looks like when they when Denver beat the Lakers in the first round they beat but I said that that they didn’t play good at all they were down every game they could have lost every game and I was like this is not Denver basketball I didn’t see Denver basketball until game three of this series and I was like okay this is the team that I saw win the championship and then they displayed it again in game four and I was like all right this is a team that might not L lose another game to Minnesota the team I saw last night yeah I mean they have some offensive dexterity they yic um you know it’s funny the NBA a generally in my life the stars have been magnificent it’s been LeBron and Kobe and MJ and Dr J and then Here Comes yo joic and it’s it’s not aesthetically that pleasing it’s a lot of putbacks um but I will say he’s more birdlike a little bit I think that’s a good com like you you you bird was gifted but a lot of it was um high IQ angles figuring out ways to end up with 28 on an off night ain’t that what we see from Joker yeah you just describe Joker if I didn’t know any better yeah the junk points not that he’s not gifted and bird wasn’t that’s not the point slow three the pushing it up Court the [Music] dimes the rebounding right I mean he can give you third I mean it’s this is like the new version of Larry birg yeah like I I don’t hear many people talking about it but this is exactly what I see not overly fast the smartest player on the court every time he steps on the court he just picks you apart Like a Surgeon he’s just like dissecting he’s like a sniper a surgeon those things that just very precise and methodical at everything he does yeah the um you know I read a story this morning I kind of feel bad for Frank vogle I mean he’s made a great living a lot of times he’s making he’s making money not working he’s been yeah that’s the best job in the world right now vogel’s got a lot of money he got he just sit down home collecting 7 million a year go go golf but I’m I’m reading the beal thing didn’t work and the Kevin Durant there’s a story this morning he didn’t he didn’t really connect with vogle and you know I was told Booker had was closer to an assistant coach on the staff than he was and I look at Phoenix right now and the owner sounds like Hey we’re going to double down and we’re going to bring another veteran coach in and I think we just did that and and like like buers got a title vogle had a title yeah do you think the players think this is the answer I’m not sure I think this was a lateral move I think the the thing that didn’t work out was the players on the court I think it just wasn’t a good mix of players Bradley Bill Booker and Kevin Durant are all similar players yeah you know none of them like to really take a back seat they’re all pretty much ball do not really ball dominant but scorers you know you get them the ball their spots and you tell them to go score none of them are really great at playmaking they can but that’s not what they do right that’s not what they do you know they they’ve always been known throughout their course of their history in the league to be scores they’ve all each probably averaged 30 at some point Bradley’s done it Katie’s done it I mean book has come close to doing it right and so it just wasn’t a good mix you know you get these names together these days that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s going to work you know everybody you know takes on the idea of maybe this could be a super team and we can turn turn this and figure it out you guys had different skills kgu Rondo Allan you all had different yeah games different games completely you know I think I was more of a inside outside I could spot I could do different things Ray was a a a great shooter kg was inside and great passer so our games complemented each other we didn’t get in each other’s way you know uh even when you look at the Miami Heat with LeBron way they got in each other way at until they figured it out right they it didn’t happen it didn’t happen right away that’s right and they had to learn that and so and saying that is just that they got some roster flaws over there in Phoenix that they have to address I think they need to make a trade you know do they trade for the future uh do they trade for the now do you trade for the future and saying that you trade Kevin Durant for some draft picks and you know rebuild with Booker moving forward and possibly Trey Bradley Bill do you rebuild to go now probably look to Trey Bradley be able to get some playmaking and add some depth I don’t know that’s the choice that the new general manager is going to have to make but you know he’s definitely made a splash since coming in uh the the owner yeah you know he’s fired a coach he’s traded for Durant big S uh fired another coach I think this the second coach he fired they had Monty Williams right yeah yeah yeah yeah you know so uh you know he spent a lot of money so he’s showing he’s ready to spend some money so yeah we’ll see the um it’s it’s funny when um I think generally in my life the the the there is an alpha to the NBA because basketball it’s a playground game most of the great players talked a little Trash yeah it’s just yeah and it’s right by the way like everybody gets it nobody takes it personal and like baseball they take it personal like right you throw at somebody if you if you hit a homer off me I’m throwing at you like basketball Everybody Talks everybody’s F it’s a running dialogue yeah and so Tatum’s not really that guy and so I’ve said this it’s not a criticism now jmck loves him he had him top three in the league a couple years ago and I said top five and I said he doesn’t his mentality isn’t really Alpha I know he’s gifted but there are times I think Jaylen Brown wants the ball more yeah and I watch I could see that the thing with Boston I can’t get past the East has been weak for several years they’re a 500 playoff home team yeah that’s m b me it’s like that sort of Tatum he picks his spots he’s not hyper aggressive yeah like you kind of are your star the Lakers were cocky I always felt you guys it was tough Rondo get into a street fight you kg not I mean you could be finesse yeah yeah but you were Fighters I feel like this Boston team takes on Tatum’s personality they’re nice yeah I mean that’s not a bad assessment because a lot of teams take on the personality of their best player or their coach usually and that that’s that’s I can see that it could be hot or cold sometimes and you know there’s times where you see Tatum a little more fiery than others right you know but for the most part comes off as a cal personality you know win or lose and so that that that’s a pretty good assessment right there yeah yeah I it’s it’s not a knock on am I just no it’s not a knock I didn’t take I didn’t look at it as a knock no he doesn’t have generally the one mentality like for years Anthony Davis I had talked to a somebody in the league he said Anthony’s the best two in league history but doesn’t necessarily want to be now this year Anthony played like a a one and I would never deny his talent is a one yeah a lot of guys don’t like you could say what you want about Joker he wants he he just wanted the ball he wants the offense to run through see it’s it’s like sometimes people’s games speak for them like Joker he’s a dog right yeah but in an interview or in a conversation nice guy you wouldn’t hear it right you know what I’m saying and times where Tatum’s a dog but you’re not it doesn’t always come out personality wise but a lot of people let their game show it you know what I’m saying so there’s no question what we saw Joker did last night spilled dog like he just took it to the defensive player of the year took it to the top defense and just shredded him but he didn’t do it with a he didn’t have no not one mean look on his face I get it Paul Pierce joining us the um I haven’t talked talked a lot about Dallas cuz this series a young OKC a lot of people don’t know the player so it’s we haven’t talked a ton about it but I would say it is impressive that Luca in the middle of a Series has stepped back kind of let Kyrie take some of the ball handling yeah and that’s hard for stars to do I mean Kobe could be stubborn to a fault yeah you read the books on the Lakers like Kobe was he was fighting when they were the best team in the league yeah Luc is in the process of it but in the last couple games they’re 9 and0 when the usage rate is under 30 yeah that to me I look at that and I think oh so Luca you can sit down and have a grown-up conversation with him you’re not going to get defensive is it hard if a Coach would have come to you at any point in your Prime and said I need three fewer shots wait is that just in the playoffs or just the regular season that 9 and0 No 9 and0 this year when his usage rate is under meaning PJ Washington gets more touches so that means his he still go over uses too much way too much out of like all over the 80 games he’s played only nine and I think a lot of that so that’s including playoffs yeah no so they can win when it’s over the usage rate but they’ve yet to lose they haven’t lost it yet when it’s under well I think he has to take a read into that and say but I think some of that if they’re winning in the playoffs in these last two games if his usage rate was under 30 and they won those two I think that injury may be a blessing in disguise I think some of those things are slowing him down because he’s getting a rebound or he’s getting an outlet he’s just throwing it ahead because he can’t push it his months because his knee is bothering him or his back is bothering him but he’s like whoa hold on I’m getting something out of PJ Washington now oh wow Tim Hardway Junior’s knocking down shots now so now as he continues to get heal his wounds as the series go go on or they Advance he could figure out like oh okay I need these guys more than I thought and I don’t have to go for 30 for us to win so hopefully this is a learning experience if they make it through this series with OKC and I always said it’s tough for me to see somebody winning with this James Harden style you know when the last time somebody won with the highest usage rate in the league it just doesn’t happen right it doesn’t just it doesn’t equal championship basketball when I watched Denver last night in the ball movement the extra pass I was watching poetry and motion it wasn’t one guy doing all the dribbling so hopefully Luca realizes that because if he realizes that this Dallas team could be dangerous and you could possibly see them in the finals because I do think they’ll be OKC I do think they’ll be in the Conference Finals and the one ingredient that you need to be in the in the finals is an MVP caliber player and Luca is that yeah did are there are times you have to be delicate with it like in the NFL I we did this a couple weeks ago it’s like four the last five passing leaders either didn’t make the playoffs or didn’t win a game fans love when their star drops 44 Lakers for years and years with Kobe every time he scored over like 40 they were like a 500 team yeah is there have there been times you’ve been in locker rooms and the coach comes in and says guys there’s a data point here we got to look and they’re just like we can’t do this you as players may think it’s great but if you ever had a coach come in and just say Doc hey this actually crushes us yeah absolutely you know Paul you need to pass more I mean but I’m like you know but I’m looking like you know look who I’m passing to you know like this is before Ray and Kevin got there that’s right you know what I’m saying and I was like shoot me taking a bad shot is better than him taking the open shot I mean it just was the truth at the time and so but then you bring the data in this when analytics started coming into play that right beginning of your or end of your career yeah it started coming into play you started looking like oh okay you know when you go right when you pull up half uh mid-range when you on the right side of the Court you know you start looking at this data and this just like wow you know but like it can’t measure my heart yeah it can’t measure my heart when it’s the clutch but you didn’t mind passing the Kg on no no I didn’t mind passing the kg of course not no those are great teams man yeah absolutely by the way ant and MJ I think it’s funny everybody’s like freaking out that there’s comps between the two but ant is such a great trash talker yeah think he kind of likes it me we’re not saying he’s going six for six yeah it doesn’t I mean when I watch it I think Kobe was a little Michael I look at ant and I’m like yeah I see some Michael absolutely and and the reason you say that is because ant is the best player at 22 yes you know you know Kobe wasn’t the best player no at 22 we rushed him in remember the All-Star Game in Utah it’s like he wasn’t MJ yet no you know he wasn’t MJ until Shaq left and you started seeing the more of the MJ when he’s scoring 60 and three quarters and and doing all the CU he had three championships by the way so now when you see a young kid doing it and it’s unbelievable to see a 22y old just leading the team talking the way he talking scoring the way he’s scoring charismatic the way he is and you can relate to him like you like man that’s what you said a couple weeks ago yeah you just you you gravitate toward him and it’s like it’s it’s like who else in the league can you say that about as an American player yeah we all love you know I’m wearing the Tatum shoes now you know but you know it’s just like certain players that kids watch that hear them talk and be like man that’s how that’s how I am when I’m on the playground and you know he he’s just being himself and you know just doing things that I wish I can do and it has a flare to it right and it’s exciting to watch and he he checks all those boxes no question it’s funny that he’s cocky but simultaneously likable yeah like I like him he comes up and talks trash I’m like oh that seems like a nice guy could go have a beer with that’s a cool guy you see the thing is with us the great athletes uh are the greatest of the great there’s a thin line between Cockiness and confidence does he believe in himself absolutely does he take accountability absolutely but like I feel like you got to have some kind of some type of Cockiness nastiness to you if you want to get so do I to the top and that’s what I said with Tatum sometimes I don’t see it yeah with with ant I absolutely see it you absolutely see it but it comes in all forms too but the majority of the guys at the top top the top top top got it like when we talk about MJ when we talk about kg had it oh kg probably top five in that aspect I mean iers iveron Kobe of course uh I mean you just talk about and been other other people do it differently like Magic Johnson did with a smile on his face right it was like take this laughing smiling like you you know and so but you you like the guys who do it with that kind of Cockiness cuz you like oh they mean they they they they they G to just step on you and just not give you no mercy give you a chance to get back up good Foxhole guys good Foxhole guys and that’s who your team seven guys that’s who you want to be in the Foxhole with guys like that they don’t care if they back against the wall uh like the movie 300 that’s ant right there that’s an he’ll lead 300 people against 10,000 and feel confident he can win right great seeing you my man always hi everybody it’s me Uncle Colin subscribe here to get the latest from the heard including exclusive 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