Why You Shouldn’t Drop Your Arms In The Downswing (Do This Instead!)

Do you feel stuck in your golf swing, with your right elbow trapped? Maybe the easy fix is you shouldn’t drop your arms in the downswing!

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If you’ve been told in the past to drop your arms to start your downswing, perhaps this ingredient is creating a recipe for disaster in your swing. Oftentimes when we see students lower their arms out of the top this can get the right elbow in golf swing stuck behind the seam line. This typically couples with an excessive in-to-out path and major low point issues! In this video, Henry and Milo will share with you their preferred method to creating the necessary “down” in the swing without getting stuck, and without too much dropping, or lowering the arms. A special thank you as well to George Gankas for sending us his awesome GBOX training aid, which comes in great handy for this fix and video! We hope you enjoy and welcome your feedback.

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so you’re really feeling like if I was here and I I kind of put you on the a plane or slant down to that ball line that that elbow is just traveling traveling on that plane stop dropping your arms like this and do this instead all right Milo so nice shot by the way Henry fall Milo lions were back out here a beautiful super station Mountain I see you got a Gbox on a little device that’s helping you with your Trail elbow not something you usually struggle with yeah but getting that trail arm and elbow a little more in front of you so one pattern we tend to see a lot of and I actually got a head cover on here cuz this is something we would been using for a while but we’ve decided to upgrade yep so we got the Gbox really really helpful tool and device to get our hands and arms tracking a little bit better right for sure the other thing I kind of like about it is that because it’s sort of a belt you have to almost Flex into it a little bit Yeah if you fire your your hips it’s really easy to have your arms on the wrong side of the Box yeah very fast so in order to be able to get the arms where we want them out in front yeah this Trail hip needs to flex a little bit it’s kind of a two for one special yeah you get a lot out of this this is a good this is a good training device cuz this is a a pattern we see a lot is whether it’s the arm going back and the back swing getting stuck or conversely we see the hands and arms just kind of like dropping or lowering getting that elbow almost into that right pocket right we see that a lot too where now you got you’re kind of blocked out to the right you can hit a lot of like sort of Scoopy hooks from there so maybe that’s something you guys are familiar with so what I see is the the culprit often times is a player’s idea that they need to lower this left arm down their chest a lot well I got two hands connected and so if my left arm lowers down that direction you can see where my my right arm goes mhm into a trapped position right away it’s like oh I’m trapped yeah everything’s blocked now you now you’re blocked it’s almost like the chest is really blocked it’s just setting you up for a really in to out path for sure and there’s a I mean there’s a few good players on tour who have have that pattern you know you think of Jim furick he was definitely more yeah and a guy like Sergio who’s got the club a little more laid off his arms come down more so it can match up it’s generally for me not my reference because of what it does to the rest of the system I’m more of a fan of a hitting pattern like a hitter in baseball would use and you would never see a hitter in baseball take their arms and drop them way down they turn more into this arm this way and you would go ahead and to the top again you would rarely see this Trail shoulder work internally it would almost always work under or a little more external if anything it might not work that external because of what we see happening in the bins of the body but it’s definitely out front of that box can you show them that uh face on like he just said one thing to point out is we don’t need to necessarily like Drive That Elbow or get super external in our opinions if you just feel like there’s it’s not getting deep to begin with yeah so it stays a little more in front of you and then it it works a little this way with the rib cage that moves the arm out in front enough yeah and you can see how the lead arm is not NE is not going that direction coming down so really feeling the down more from your chest being down is what you’re saying yeah that’s how I cre the down is created by aiming this down yeah that’s for me not getting my arms to drop down yep so you’re feeling more of a that Dynamic more of a systematic lowering mhm and almost like the hands and arms like if we’re on the ball line here it’s almost like your hands and arms are actually going a little bit towards that ball yeah yeah they’re not going down towards like your right foot or your pocket which we so often see it’s like a straight pull down you tend to see that with sort of a slide and tilt the combo I see that’s hands down left shoulder up and I see it all day it’s like a teeter totter right yeah I feel like my arm swing level relative to my Center so if I’m turning my arms feel like they’re moving level relative to my Center and I just aim my Center down there I like that all right Milo let’s let’s hit another one and see how this contraption is working for you nice so are you feeling at all like inhibited by that no for me this is not in the way it’s something that I do fa fairly naturally however I do see lots of good players who this is in the way okay so let’s say you guys at home are watching and they’re struggling with this they see their Trail elbow really behind that seam line so if I take this out you have your shirt seam line and the pan they kind of if you tucked your shirt in correctly they’re kind of line up line yeah first let’s talk about how we would line that Gbox up so if you guys are training or the head cover if you want to just use a head cover like a three-w or driver head cover so we’re basically putting it so the front of the box is in line with see that seam on my pants and that seam runs right up my shirt so that the front of the box is right there so I would put the head cover like through my belt and generally you have a belt loop that’s right on the seam and so that’s going to be so like kind of like that and I might have it kind of tucked out a little bit and we’ve done this with some students you guys might have seen it with a fast Eddy series we we had a student that we worked on this with okay so now we have it lined up correctly so are we just first swing full out just miss that thing definitely not because you’ll probably not miss this thing and you your your arms if you’re a player who tends to be a spinner whose arms kind of pull down and fall this way show them that face on oh yeah you’ll be on the wrong side of the box and it it’ll be a challenge at first okay so why don’t you show them sort of a good training session they could go through a little ladder with this exercise or this so training aid first we’re going to work on how we wind up so we’re going to make sure we’re not pulling our arms into the box early so we’re going to wind the chest and now we’re going to work on the transition how we let our left arm kind of stay up fall down deliver and now we can just touch the ball smoothly something like that and so you’re just really feeling smooth and a new motion where you’re not going to spin your hips and hit the box go up to the top for me so you’re really feeling like if I was here and I I kind of put you on the a plane or slant down to the that ball line that that elbow is just traveling it’s traveling on that plane again you’re not you’re not really feeling like it’s driving you’re just feeling like it’s all moving together systematically right it’s all kind of a unit mhm the way my body is turning and bending is moving that arm out in front for me I’m not necessarily driving the arm independent nor are you feeling like if I was here and this was like glass that you’re shattering that glass you’re you’re lowering or dropping your arm I don’t feel like I Dro my arms I don’t ever feel like I dropped my arms to me my arms feel like they they hit this way yeah I just aim them that way pretty simple to think about I guess so now we’ve done a slower a couple slower ones let’s see one a little bit more okay maybe a little more flowing where you have that feel down through impact good so you just start to ladder it up and can you hit full Swings with this absolutely should you hit full Swings with this your first time out with it probably not okay probably not in the first 5 minutes but you probably be able to get the full swings fairly quickly it’s it’s not a complicated exercise mhm but it requires a total motor pattern change for many yeah so you’re going to really be feeling some new things in order to miss this box know maybe you should just go play golf with that thing so let’s kind of wrap this up give you some really clear feels that will help you learn how to get your your Trail arm out front and to do that I’ve I’ve picked up this PVC pipe we’re going to use it as if it was a baseball bat so if I’m here loaded what I really want to feel is I want to feel like I’m turning this triangle you can see my left arm is staying up my right arm is getting under and it’s nowhere near touching that box when I do that it’s it’s not going to touch the Box yeah it’s going to get out in front naturally and so that that would be kind of a baseball feel and then we can take that same feel and gradually so if I start with it kind of waist high there now we can lower it to knee high to ball high and just feeling the same feeling yeah is going to help you create the correct bends in your rib cage keep you from dropping your arms down yeah well isn’t that it’s funny like you probably we could go into detail about the hips and the knees and the chest and the rib cage but like the way you explain it there it’s like okay I feel this and then I just get it down to there and everything works the way it’s supposed to exactly but can you show them that face on real quick cuz I think that seeing it face on from my vantage point was really helpful you can see how that system unwinds it’s you know he’s thinking about hitting a baseball it’s coming in right here so it’s a little more level boom and then he figures out how to get it down to the ground so we’ll start chest High boom waist high boom knee high and ground and that g box just kind of becomes invisible yeah I don’t know anything I the more I use it the more I feel like I’m just using it to like as a a hip hinger a hip hinger yeah something that kind of remind me that you know I can kind of flex into it like I’m doing an ab workout a little bit it keeps you from spinning so the the one thing you can’t do is fire your hips cuz if you fire if you actually fire your hips like this you’ll have a hard time you get on the wrong side so you want to really feel that little bit more squeeze down into the ground that gives you clearance for this right arm nice okay one more for good measure okay woohoo that one was perfect hey Purina I like it I finally got your elbow in front after all these years all these years finally figured it out just had to get je- boox there we go hopefully you all love this video if you did like And subscribe go out and get yourself a Gbox it’s a really good tool I think it gives some really nice feels things that you’re not going to get from many otheres if not you can use a head cover of course I mean it or another simple exercise you can do at home you’re not hitting balls but take your left arm put it under your right tricep your Trail tricep and just make some air swings keeping that arm a little more in front of you I’m not driving it I’m just moving it systematically it’s sort of with me so nice simple feel you can do as well there but uh definitely a great tool definitely highly recommend it so thanks for watching guys and come on over to my lincoff where we can help you guys oneon-one and you’ll learn our swing like an athlete system take care