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Offthe hook sports.com I Compu mute and Obey now to Dave hooker ready well that was something man things have changed drastically since we last spoke to you Tennessee no longer the hottest team in the basketball World on the men’s side and on the women’s Side Kelly Harper unveils her new ghost

Defense we’ve got a big program on tap today including the VA football team you might care about them as well they are about to open spring practice we’ll look back at the Kentucky loss for the men also is this Tennessee basketball team tournament ready because it’s time it’s

SEC tournament time it is NCAA tournament time you better be ready because what happens if you lose one game you’re done now my guy right here the one the only Caleb Calhoun got people fired up on the interweb calling for Kelly Harper’s job immed immediately

And even before it gets to the point in which Harper makes the NCAA tournament we shall discuss that also with Tennessee football defensive line preview and we’ll talk some SEC Big 10 in a 14 team format so a big show lined up hit that like And subscribe button we

Greatly appreciate that like And subscribe as Jeremy says Dylan thank you sir for being on board we appreciate you go ahead and chime in and we’ll go ahead and start it today with poll question Caleb first of all though let me get your thoughts uh on the weekend briefly

As we’re going to dive into it but um my oh my a much different feel uh three days since we last spoke oh you want my opinion but you don’t care about my welfare you didn’t care to ask how I am how are you doing

K I am great I will say this is uh I just wanted to point out this is such an exciting time of year for me in general because it’s like March Madness and like the March tournament to me it’s like the transition away from Winter After the

Dark Days of winter and you’re finally getting some sun and and it’s even for a football guy like me it’s it’s my favorite two days of the sporting calendar that first Thursday and Friday of March I used to uh make sure that my calendar was cleared fortunately being a

Sports Rider you say I gotta watch these games you know I got to um so go ahead and get on board and let’s let’s dive into it now and we’ll ask you today’s tough question it is on our YouTube page where you can go and answer that poll

Sometimes the poll is different than today’s tough question but not the case today today’s tough question is now today’s tough question take a side Take A Stand the Dave hooker show a presentation of offthe hook sports.com Al righty let’s get started here today’s tough question what was most disappointing the

Balls senior day no show or the lady balls ghost defense hadn’t seen that before from Kelly Harper if you had to guess what would you say we want you to vote on our YouTube page now so lady vs or the men what was most disappointing

About the weekend oh it it was the it was the lady vs um Tennessee had already accomplished everything they need to accomplish in the regular season in men’s basketball Saturday was just icing on the cake and we’ll get into breaking down that game but there was nothing to

Upset Tennessee basketball fans the lady vs they had a chance to knock off the best team in college basketball and prove that they actually are a force in the NCAA tournament and they that was just an awful choke job in the last five seconds one of the worst choke jobs I

Think I’ve ever seen in this SP and you say ever I’m not gonna argue with that I I I’m not arguing with that like like literally like right up there with Pete Carroll deciding to throw the ball with Russell Wilson instead of handing off to Marsha Lynch like right up there um yeah

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The weekend Caleb can you give us can you give us an update on the poll question uh yeah so looking at the poll question right now um it’s the Lady Vols ghost defense has 76% as far as what was more disappointing as opposed to the

Senior day no show and I love the way you phrase that because it was a it was a ghost defense I I’ve never seen that alignment before we’ll get into it but yeah that’s that was most disappointing to everybody let’s let’s take take a look uh back at that Tennessee Kentucky

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First down CP CP here first down thank you very much did Kentucky reveal anything did they reveal how to beat Tennessee is anything public knowledge that wasn’t public knowledge three days ago absolutely not they didn’t I mean yeah Kentucky revealed how to beat Tennessee by shooting what was it 53%

From three having that little kid sheeper Off the Bench come in and go seven of 10 from the three-point line having Edwards go four of seven from the three having Austin Reeves go three of five truth of the matter is Kentucky was red hot shooting and Tennessee had

Exerted so much energy in those other three games they weren’t the they didn’t show the defensive aggression they typically are able to show in games and they still would have pulled it out if Kentucky wasn’t the hottest team in in in the world on Saturday so no they

Didn’t reveal any formula to be Tennessee they kind of expose themselves as being Underachievers because Kentucky is incredibly athletic down low they don’t like to play defense until Saturday basically and then they played defense in the front court and the rest of the guys suddenly became great Shooters

You’re right Roo 22 shoot 90% from three you’ll do pretty well there also were they really expose themselves oh sorry I’m sorry did I uh where they really expose themselves is how bad John caliper is in closing out games in the last two minutes I don’t know how many times I’ve seen him

Almost blow a lead like that with the last two minutes because when teams like bring in the full court press and switch up the defense this isn’t the first time he struggled to get the ball past half court and he almost lost because of his terrible coaching in the last minute

Well now Travis brings up a good point you mentioned C Perry he should have gotten ejected I thought so too as well from a couple of people that were at the game that said there were some very coarse language uh exchanges there what down C Cooper ma here second down

Brought to you by Dynasty PS and Spas all guard scoring that’s what Kentucky did which is pretty phenomenal when you think about it their guards scored all of their points so is that a newfound concern perimeter defense no I think Tennessee’s perimeter defense is fine I think it was just

Tired on Saturday and I also think that and again this is a big part of it I I think it was mentally drained on Saturday but more importantly I think Kentucky was just that red hot look I’ll say this part of being an NCAA tournament team is you have to and we’ll

Talk about this is you have to overcome any type of thing you can overcome but look I I think the greatest teams of all time in college basketball would lose a game to a Kentucky team that shot like that from three on Saturday no pretty good all right what down Coupe Tennessee

Center Cooper May here third Santiago vovi didn’t score a point on single on senior day not a single point on senior day is it time to look at vovi and think that anything you get in March from him is basically a bonus I hate to be mean because I know

His grandmother passed away I don’t want to sound like a jerk Caleb but I gotta be honest with you I I think this team right now he’s almost almost well he is he’s the spot up shooter who is having trouble finding his way in this offense with a new score who can

Create um I I think if they get if they get a game in which they get 16 points out of him they win easily they win by 40 points in the NCAA tournament but they could also win by 40 points and he scores two which seems more likely at

This point I think Santiago vovi is the type of guy you keep out there because you just never know when you’re going to have that moment where you need him and then he just happens to be ready to go off that day it reminds me of Dave

You’re a Celtics fan so you remember this well Ray Allen had to take a significant backseat to Paul Pearson Kevin Garnett didn’t he when he went to Boston yes and he he had major slumps didn’t he in parts of the year because of that but there was always that moment

When things were going wrong and Ray Allen was happened to be on shooting that day didn’t that happen and that’s when you went to him Smoky Mountain red read my mind speaking to Source close to the program and said that it just feels like something’s mental with s Santi it

Just feels like whether it’s emotional loss or he’s still dealing with the loss of his grandmother or it’s that he’s going to end up playing in Europe anyway and the NBA is not a real option because I mean he didn’t know who Tennessee was five years ago I mean let’s be real

Frank or six years ago before he was recruited so I I’ve I’ve got to wonder if he’s able to turn it around and in time for March and and find his way but it’s a confidence issue I don’t have any doubt about it so fourth down we’ll get

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All right what say you Caleb you’re the one who’s sounding like a little bit like a Rick Barnes apologist all of a sudden and you don’t seem to think there’s any cause for Big Time concern about the balls and the way they played against Kentucky it was more what Kentucky did

So if the balls get bounced early in the tournament by a team that’s just red hot after the season they’ve had let’s say sweet 16 is that okay no because it’s different if they get bounced in the tournament with this happening this was Tennessee playing again Tennessee had to play four

Straight top 15 teams the first three were all de facto SEC regular season title elimination games which was a goal and two of them were on the road they won all three they mentally drain themselves before facing Kentucky on Saturday and then Kentucky got redot shooting the

Ball if Tennessee loses in the NCAA tournament they won’t have the excuse of having mentally drained themselves because here’s the truth and this and I am G to stick with this as hot as Kentucky was shooting the ball if Tennessee showed the aggression on the perimeter defense that they had shown

All year they still win that game on Saturday it lacked on Saturday because they were so drained they were ready for conference play the conference tournament the NCAA tournament I give them a break on that because it’s a regular season game if that happens in the NCA tournament

Though then that’s a really big problem and that’ll go back to my other larger narrative which is that Rick barns has not address depth the way he should on this team and he’s been running his starters too much I think it was just one game it was three ranked teams in

Three day and three straight ranked teams that mentally drained them before the Kentucky game they’re not going to see that in the NCA tournament you know this Dave your Tennessee’s at 11 now the first couple of rounds are going to see average opponents at best y you’re

You’re right and Tennessee should not f face another team until unless they get a bad draw till the elite eight or final four that has any sort of athleticism like Kentucky right exactly yeah I mean they’re not going to get it’s really hard to see at the very least to lead

Eight I’m with you I think Tennessee now has a now you put them in the west Brocket as a number one seed they could end up facing a tough number four seed and if if they’re a number two seed anywhere else they can face a tough

Number three seed but I don’t see at at the very least the first weekend that should be a a a a breather for Tennessee shouldn’t it the entire first weekend should be a breather no absolutely I I agree it should be a a breather um but I do think you

Can it’s tough to say this with what 30 plus years of Rick Barnes coaching experience and history that we all know you can still run into a red hot shooting 16 seed or 15 seed so I want to say it’s okay in kind of a Tom ISO Mo

Mold as he’s lost early in the tournament before but he’s also had success in the tournament so we don’t think about that as much he’s what won two national titles no just I want to say it’s I want to say it’s okay because that’s the way the sports play but I’m

With you Caleb I’m having a lot of difficulty thinking to myself I’m I’m even thinking a short week a Thursday Saturday if they get that draw let’s say they’re a two and then they would play the winner of a you just seven and 10 I we over seven and 10 C so

It no I’m going to go with you I I don’t think it’s okay at all well and yeah and also remember this yes a 16 seed that gets redot shooting or even a seven to 10 seed that gets redot shooting there’s no reason Tennessee shouldn’t be able to

Match is not built to be able to match their scoring this year in the tournament which is to say they and that’s where they’re different from years past is they had in the in previous years they have those offensive dry spells under Rick bar you know those

Times I’m talking about right where they go five minutes without a bucket right absolutely um and so I think that’s I I think that’s the difference with this team is if a team is red hot shooting the ball Tennessee should have the horses to offensively keep up they just

Should I agree one other thing that I’m curious about with this Tennessee basketball team is I I believe I believe they found how to best use Dalton connect though my concern is that there are times they rely on him a little bit too much Caleb is is that a concern brought

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A deal how much they rely on Dalton people are saying that but like we’re forgetting zakai zagler scored 17 points on Saturday I know dton connect scored 40 had a heck of a game but zakai zagler did score 17 and Jonas Adu had 11 points and eight rebounds by the way first game

Tennessee loss in the SEC play where Jonas Adu scored double figures um all year but yeah I I I gotta say that I think I I don’t think the problem was that I think they want that from D conect because he can just score at will

So much I think the problem that stood out to them was their perimeter defense Kentucky just shot redot and their perimeter defense was a concern was a bit of an issue I don’t think that perimeter defense is going to be that much of an issue in when tournament time

Comes I mean this team still scored 81 points so they still showed up offensively now you can make the case and Dave I think you have that Kentucky this is not your typical coach caliper team and that they don’t play defense well at all so maybe they should score

81 points maybe they should have scored more than 81 points in that regard well they decided they they were a bad defensive basketball team until Saturday and suddenly they became a good team so I think there was a little bit of Revenge factor from the rup loss and I

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They’re absolutely tournament ready now I don’t want to say tournament ready which is to say like if they played a game today they’d be ready to go okay I think they need a little bit of time to just mentally recover it was such a grind towards the end of the season but

I think their tournament ready I think the most important thing for them is to this is very very very controversial I’ll split the baby with Ron SLE who we talked to on Friday I won’t say rest your starters but I will say give very minimal effort in the SEC tournament

Treat it like preseason in basketball is that fair where you just try to stay in Rhythm yeah but I don’t I don’t think you can really do that Caleb I don’t think that a competitor’s Mind Is Made like that I think you saw one those Jerry green teams that they took the

Secc tournament about as serious as a banana pill on the highway and what happened in the NCAA tournament I mean there’s something to while theob while the the SEC tournament is not important it is a simulation of the NCAA tournament in the logistical things that you go through yes but then there’s Bobby

Knight who openly talked about never caring about conference tournaments just not even giving it at all his all at all and he’s got five national titles or he had he had five national titles at Indiana so I don’t think that’s Jerry green I don’t think they were not competitively ready for the NCAA

Tournament I think Jerry green didn’t bother to do any scouting reports on who they were playing in the NCAA tournament so you just don’t do scouting reports and that sends the message to your team probably would do so I think their tournament ready I think they needed a

Break I you have to look at the run that they’ve been on for those last four games to go three and one if I would have told you before Auburn Kentucky South Carolina A&M right yes yep um if I would have told you that they would be

Three and one after that wouldn’t you have taken that at the time not only three and one winning the first three to clinch the outright regular season title before even playing their final game by the way it was uh Alabama not A&M they did play A&M though before that whole

Stretch so Auburn Kentucky South Carolina and Alabama but yeah um yeah three and one and clinching the outright SEC regular season title no one’s going to complain about that I think they’re totally fine I think that they just yeah they I’ll say this you’re right we the

Competive Drive comes in and you saw this on Saturday what I’m saying they should do for the SEC tournament I think they did for Kentucky honestly until the last minute Caleb I’ve asked you before who the most important player on this team is haven’t I you have and you said

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Vovi I think the biggest concern with vovi I think it’s almost fine if he just disappears because he did so against Kentucky didn’t score a point on senior night and they almost overcame a terrible showing to win I think what the biggest concern is vovi with his

Confidence guys what if he has to hit a shot late to keep the balls from getting eliminated that is my biggest concern that that moment happens that Dalton drives down and he can’t find anybody and he kicks it out three and vovi has a

Wide open look two he has time to get it off defense eh it’s okay one ball in the air I don’t know that he has the confidence to make that shot Dave do you believe in the law of averages are you gonna say he’s do what if he just wasted his really

Really really horrible shooting nights on the last two games got him out of the way I don’t believe in do like that’s a baseball term like he’s du he’s you know 0 for 21 he’s due I don’t believe in that um I do believe it to some extent

In some sports but not at all in basketball I he’s pulling the stram Caleb I mean he’s he’s not handing the cookie jar when your hand’s over he’s pulling the string when he shoots and it takes it just takes one three to get you out of

It not at this point when’s the last time he’s had a great game Caleb uh he played well against Vanderbilt back in uh middle of February he went four of six four five in the middle of March I’m just saying um and he was always what vasco’s role we’re forgetting what his

Role now let’s be Fair vovi part of his less where you’re seeing less of him part of this was by Design he was designed to take on a much lesser role this year than he has in in years past is that fair to say because

Dalton connects on the team and so so is he upset about that maybe no he’s accepted it well I mean these last two games are anomalies from actually how he played the down the stretch you got to remember he went two a five from three against Alabama he went two or four from

Three against Texas A&M four or five against Vanderbilt and this is what we’re talking about vcil doesn’t have to go off what he needs to do is just what you talked about those two or three times he’s open he’s got a hit and that’s all he’s

Really asked to do in a game now and I still think he’s capable of doing that wait so you’re telling me my whole college career and my confidence isn’t great depends on just two or three moments I’m I’m supposed to respond to that I mean come on Caleb that’s listen

If he has to shoot a key3 at the end I I love the guy I hope I’m dead wrong but I’m go to go ahead and tell you right now I think there’s a really good chance that it’s a Miss but if it’s about his confidence how do you explain him a week

Earlier at Alabama going to a five from three exactly what he was needed to do well I mean two of five three isn’t grand grand I mean he that’s 40% well I know he is but okay I I think you’ve got what what is he for the season look that

Up on the season he’s 34% his his three-point numbers have dropped but he’s what I’m seeing is he’s actually he’s gotten more efficient from three over the past I’d say month he had we’re forgetting how really bad of a stretch he did have and it’s not as no but so so

He’s coming out of maybe his funk I think it’s March I think the last two games were anomalies I don’t think that’s going to be as common in the SC in the SEC and NCAA tournaments I don’t and maybe the long layoff by the way will help him maybe that’s now it could

Hurt him you’re right if he’s dealing with some mental issues the long layoff could hurt you because you got a Fester on it more but or I mean if you’re already down in the drain because of that maybe it’s your it’s his time to

Get right I’m not it’s a I I I will agree with you this let’s let me step back it is a concern it is Tennessee’s biggest concern I agree with you I’m playing Devil’s Advocate justar I’m the devil Devil’s Advocate you just changed your mind completely no no hold on it is

A concern but I don’t think it’s a concern that can’t be I don’t think it’s out it’s that far out of the realm of possibility that this concern gets fixed pretty quickly I I think it’s very possible that game was an anomaly on Saturday more than anything

Else okay I I’m I think you’re being overly optimistic I think you’re being overly optimistic for a guy that just seems to be in a funk the whole season what was his three-point percentage last year and three-point percentage this year if you could if you could look that

Up so three point percentage is more just average this year because he’s shooting 34% from three he was 37% from three last year he was 40% in 2021-22 so he has regress each year in 2021-22 he was Tennessee’s best player funny enough he’s not a good fit for the offense that they’re

Running I mean he’s that’s probably it but he does a lot of other things too he he does do a lot of other things I don’t want to be that guy that says because you can’t score you can’t play he does a lot of other things things but unless

You get him open he’s not getting open unless you’re running picks on the perimeter he’s not getting open so I think that is your major concern right now you can’t do anything drastically different with this offense because it’s Dalton Central this is a the DK offense and it ain’t changing um Rick Terry

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Tennessee had last year wouldn’t you yes absolutely I mean this is the first time they’ve ever had a go-to score but not just that because I keep saying he’s their most one they got a go-to score and connect they have zakas eagler back and we’re seeing how much he was missed

In the NCAA tournament last year now given what he’s doing and then also and this is a really underrated Point Jonas a i the reason I say he’s the most important player on the team his development Dave has been the story of the year I mean Rick Barn kept telling us

All all all season that this guy is going to be could turn into a star it’s he his development reminds me and here’s a great name I want to bring up for you he reminds me of Wayne Chism with his development remember Wayne Chism the four-year guy like the four-year guy

Under Bruce that just got better every year as a reliable Center I think Jonas is that but unlike Wayne chis Jones has real NBA potential could see that um listen I’m not going to complain you got dton connect on the team I’m just gonna tell you if fovi has to shoot the

Last shot that’s a concern um Travis says they decided to let DK do his thing and beat the rest of the team do you think they we talked about that before do you think that was at all the mind mindset The Falls is that a concern you

Kind of addressed it earlier but just yes or no quickly you’re you’re not too concerned about leaning on connect too much yeah I’m not too concerned about leaning on connect too much um again zakai had 17 points ad had 11 James had eight if you want to say anything and I

I might say this and I say this team goes as ad goes ad maybe should have had 15 to 20 points instead of just 11 and this one you know Kentucky played a lot of small ball AD should have really been an Unstoppable Force Under the basket

And he was just his regular efficient self under the basket and so I would say but so rather than 11 you should have gotten a few more shots from him out of that but yeah outside of that I think it was just the perimeter defense I think

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Into the NCAA tournament Kelly Harper very well could have a team hit a ton of shots from the outside have a hot night and advance in in the NCAA tournament it sounds crazy but 16s a beat one Cinderella happen in March it could happen then if you make the sweet 16

Seems a little weird to fire a coach doesn’t it Caleb Calhoun forgive me if I stole the Thunder but that was pretty much the Crux of your argument which I think is interesting but I don’t necessarily agree with yes you can’t let Kelly Harper get red hot in the NCAA tournament you can’t

Give her a chance to keep her job you can’t have Dennis Felton at Georgia in the SEC tournament in 2008 which you would have and they won the SEC tournament got into the NCAA and then you couldn’t fire him right and then you couldn’t fire him when they should have

Fired him anyway you can’t do it it you can’t make your decisions based on redot runs just a quick NFL one real quick Joe Flaco got really hot and led the Ravens to a Super Bowl and then the Ravens gave him $100 million contract they should

Have stuck to their guns and said no you’re not getting this contract I don’t care that you just won the Super Bowl because he wasn’t worth that money okay they you got to be that you can’t just react to a red hot run now Kelly Harper Defenders are GNA

Talk about how no it’s it’s not just Defenders firing a coach in the middle of the season is just bad business in general no it’s not it happens all the time not all the time I’m sorry you got to make this move because you can’t give

Her a chance to sell keeping her job because there is no way you can keep your job after the coaching sequence on Saturday let me break down guys what she did for those of you who aren’t watching let me break down two things okay Kelly Harper you know you’re chucking this season

Right so what okay go ahead go ahead do you think this team is going go go ahead with your point go ahead with your point go ahead with your point K Harper Tennessee fought back from 23 down to take a two-point lead on South Carolina over the weekend

Undefeated number one South Carolina in the SEC tournament a chance for the upset of the century they are up 73 to 71 they get a stop they get the ball Jasmine Powell draws a foul with three seconds to go you you assume the game’s over Powell unfortunately for Tennessee

Misses both of her free throws South Carolina is out of timeouts they Rush the ball to Mid Court okay now here’s where it’s crazy Dave they have the ball with one second left at midcourt Tennessee has a foul to give Kelly Harper instructs her team juel spear to use the foul to

Give now that’s already Next Level stupid so for those who don’t understand if you have a foul to give you do that when they’re already on your side of the court and they’ve already got an offense set up because then you give them less

Time to set up a play you know what I’m talking about right Dave when you have the foul to give what you don’t do is do it when they’re you don’t do it when they’re at midcourt with a second left and no timeouts and they’re going to have to

Throw up a prayer that’s not when you use a foul to give now you give them a chance to inbound the ball and set up a shot so that’s already a really dumb decision then coming off the shot Kelly Harper draws up arguably the worst defense I have ever seen in the history

Of college basketball and I just got to share it with you guys real quick because no hold on we’re not going to share do we want to share this okay go ahead share this okay I just Mak try get pulled up go ahead cardoso banks in a game-winning three for South Carolina

Look at how open she is look at these three guys or look at these three players right there inside the paint okay why are you guarding the inbalance person why does that girl at the top of the key have her eye on the inbalance person you know they’re not going to

Pass it back to her with one second left this is the worst defensive alignment I think I’ve ever seen called in the history of the sport you can’t let some who would there are some decisions that are so stupid you got to fire on the spot and there is Mario christall

Running a play when he should have taken a knee there is um there’s a few others but Mario Chris running a knee when he should running a play when he should have taken a knee as one of those that’s another one of those you can’t ever call

A play a defensive alignment like that that’s the most laughably worst defensive alignment I’ve ever seen called it’s fireable you got to fire them right now me Drinker says they double team their best three-point shooter that girl got lucky didn’t call Glass either she did Bank it in uh Caleb Don Staley said

She would have done the same well that is scary me I gotta be honest with you I like the first part of your comment I think the girl did get lucky I think they double team the best three-point shooter but when another coach is saying that you have a great coach when your

Opponent’s saying that you need to be very wary okay so that’s actually the greatest that’s the greatest bit of evidence possible that Kelly Harper should be fired is that Don Staley’s promoting Kelly Harper yeah that’s that’s something that is a big red flag if Don Staley says that looked like

Great coaching to me that sounds like what Rick patino used to say about Wade Houston back in the day and we all know how that turned out I’m not gonna make any decision right now I’m not going to make an any decision based off S sweet

16 and here’s why Caleb sweet 16 is expected every single year if that’s the best you got is slipping into the tournament and making the sweet 16 given what Kelly Harper has done to this point and that game that you just showed which was on the screen for our video audio

Listeners I’m going to fire after a sweet 16 run anyway because it I understand that it’s harder to do but it’s not impossible to do and Tennessee you’re you guys on our Twitter board you’re not toned deaf you know as well as I do that this program

Is not going in the right direction we all know that so make the change after the sweet 16 I don’t think you teach kids to go halfway through the season I’ll tell a quick story that I’m sure has been told by many of fathers my son played lacrosse

Brought in a travel team that took 21 of the 24 spots you weren’t a part of the crew anymore uh the the high school did and he no longer had a starting spot he still played through the rest of the year it’s important it’s principles it

Means something I love you Caleb but no chance you make that change now you make it now you make it now you don’t give her a chance to have a selling point now you will upset I will I’ll give you this you will upset many of the lady all

Contingency by doing this but I think it’s time to upset the contingency anyway because I think their hold and their stringle hold on what the program should be is what’s holding the program back and I’m just going to say that right off the bat and guys I’m I’m gonna

I I gotta address this because everybody keeps talking about how that was K cardoso’s first three-point make ever and that was the player you leave wide open I could get with that if they didn’t have two players guarding nothing on the court yeah and the the I I will

Agree with you on that part the the most frustrating aspect is that everybody looked lost I mean it it wasn’t it was like they had like there was 02 seconds and they had thought it was over because you can’t get a shot off it’s like they had completed the comeback they had

Already won the game let’s go let’s get Rowdy this is exciting it wasn’t time to get Rowdy and get exciting Caleb exactly and also don’t try to sell me on Harper deserving credit for Tennessee playing South Carolina so well because Dave you and I both know in conference

Tournaments you should throw results out the window they’re not indicative of how teams how good teams are right conference tournaments uh no they’re not indicative at all with the exception of maybe the ACC tournament we we see that from time to time okay but we’re but we haven’t heard anything yet

Do you think they would actually ever consider doing that no they wouldn’t do it they wouldn’t do it again the um it it’s I’m going to get in so much trouble but the lady of all contingency is almost like a mafia they have so much power over the decisions you make for

The lady all basketball program and they forced Philip Fulmer to hire Kelly Harper in the first place and well I think he was pretty okay with that no he didn’t want Kelly Harper Ian I think he was willing to do what needed to be done to keep the job

And I’ve said this before I think Philip loves Tennessee I think Philip loves Philip just a little more I agree with you on that I no I totally agree with you on that I’m saying Philip Fulmer was looking for the best coach and he admitted in the press conference he said

You know I was just looking for the best coach and then you know the speaking of the lady VA contingency they kind of made it clear you know you got to hire a lady VA you got to keep it in the family I’m like this is embarrassing well

That’s not okay that’s not the lady BS contingency’s fault that’s Philip former’s fault he didn’t have to listen to Lady Ball’s contingency you Philip Fulmer was Philip Fulmer was going to play ball to keep his job as much as possible you’re right he’s not he would never Fulmer is never the type that

Would take the Bold stance to anger a bunch of a bunch of boosters is that fair to say like he’s too scared to do that yes yeah no um no but he should have and someone needs to do it someone needs to stand up to the mafia because

They’re Ma they’re a mafia what they’re doing to the lady falls here’s the other thing how important is it Tennessee does make a change get out of the Pat Summit Legacy factor I mean if they hire Carol Lawson God sake that would be awful because I love Carol Lawson I think

She’s so talented what if she’s just an okay coach and then her Legacy is running to the ground like Holly warlick and Kelly Harper it feels like we’re trying to destroy every great lady of all that Pat Summit played for and then it makes your decisions like these that

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With me I have a lot of faith in Danny White because Danny White has a lot of faith in himself and for the this is the first time Tennessee has had an athletic director that has the Full Faith and confidence in himself Dave you covered Mike Hamilton you covered you covered

Dave at the start you know Philip Fulmer do any of those athletic director do any of those people strike you as people who are 100% certain of what they’re doing in the face of backlash from everybody else no no Danny White’s not scared okay but here’s the issue it it’s

Not what people think of me it’s cash money homie it’s exactly what it is cash money cash money because you can get Kelly Harper for 1.4 others like Kim Moi cost LSU 3.4 million I believe it was or 3.2 so you’re going to have to pay somebody more you’re going to have

To make another Financial commitment to someone and you’re going to have to pay off Kelly Harper because you fired her your football team is not rebuilt yet when your football team is completely rebuilt and playing for national titles then you can have your luxury item which is the lady vs why

Were the lady vs great in the 80s and 90s happens to correlate with a guy coming back to Tennessee in a similar time frame Johnny major hired back at Tennessee the football coffers were full people were throwing money at the athletic department left and right surely Johnny major was going to turn

Things around it took a little longer than you thought but what did that mean for Pat Summit it meant if Pat Summit needed and I’m not exaggerating something as small as a water heater fixed she got it done because the money was there the money right now is being spent

On nil and isn’t going to be at an elite level until Tennessee wins a national title I think we would all agree when that money comes down the pike you’re in a different place they’re not in that place yet Danny White was also 29 years old the last time Tennessee won a

Women’s basketball national championship do you really think he feels in his heart what the lady vs mean to so many people I don’t believe so I don’t believe he would pull the trigger or will pull the trigger they just gave her a new contract part of this came from a

Source I spoke to I don’t think they’re going to fire I think they’re going to be okay with the lady vs just languishing around and it’ll give us something to talk about for years to come but this is a luxury item and right now the vs don’t have money for a luxury

Item I think Danny White is such a good hirer that he’ll find somebody that you could get even cheaper than Kelly Harper there’s guys he’s found there’s player there’s coaches he’s found in the women’s game women’s basketball has actually been he’s the best hirer of athletic directors in the

Country women’s basketball is his Forte at hiring okay he found somebody named Felicia legga Jack he got H to Buffalo and everybody counted her out because she had gotten fired at Indiana in 2012 and nobody realized all the inner workings of why she got fired there were

A lot of things that were working against her at the time she goes to Buffalo turns that into a great program she’s now at Syracuse and they’re 23 and six they’re going to the NCA tournament her second year there he’s found coaches all all over the place he is the best

Hire he’s the best at finding coaches that I think you do it and here here’s the Kelly so you’re arguing that for right now Tennessee should just focus on keeping women’s basketball afloat and just B hitting a baseline until they get the football program to where they’re at

Right that’s what you’re saying I’m not saying that’s what I would do but I’m saying that’s what they’re going to do by the way I mention Danny was 29 years old last time yes he National Championship here’s why I totally disagree with that and I wanted to get to

This this is coming from a source I’m not just throwing this out there it’s not going to happen this year is what I was told that doesn’t mean you can’t go out there and get beat 100 to 20 by Western Carolina in the first round and

You don’t get fired but that’s what I was told right now by the way search lady vs right now Camila Cardoza comes up that’s the one who hit the three she’s the one who hit the three and B I know but she’s one of the first images

That comes up just her uh just her profile page go ahead well this is why I’m telling you this is why this is a big deal women’s basketball right now is gaining in popularity there’s the Caitlyn Clark story that everybody’s loved this year with her setting all the records and

Then who watched yesterday’s SEC title game between South Carolina and LSU I did cardoo is trending because a massive fight broke out with cardoo being involved pushing FL Johnson for LSU knocking her to the ground and then FL Johnson’s brother runs from the stands and jopes over the stands on to the

Court like he’s gonna fight a woman for pushing his brother which is hilarious okay it was Epic Theater wait that is Epic Theater and the women’s game with Caitlyn Clark and Iowa is getting bigger but you don’t ever expect them to turn a coin on that do they I mean you’re never

Going to make money on women’s basketball I think women’s basketball is very much where look people are underestimating this but women’s basketball has it’s not doing much worse than the NBA was doing in the 60s and what I mean is it takes a long time for it took a lot remember this

Guys I don’t know if you remember this the NBA was a hockey sub NBA was really bad in the 60s but here’s my point it was a hockey subsidized League the point of the NBA was NHL owners needed to fill their stadiums when they didn’t have hockey games that’s the whole reason the

NBA was actually invented was so they could find a way to fill the stadiums when hockey games weren’t happening it wasn’t to make money it was to offset some losses period in the story and then it got popular because of narratives what happened in the 60s Dave you know

This Russell and Chamberlain that made a narrative in the NBA and it made it very popular the Russell Chamberlain the Celtics can the Lakers get past the Celtics the only reason the NBA didn’t really take off until the 80s after that it would have taken off in in the 70s

But they stupidly decided to create the ABA not the NBA itself but the ABA came out and they split all the talent up and all the talent was on half and half in the NBA and the ABA had it just stayed the NBA it would have actually taken off

In the 70s not the 80s like it did with Bird magic you’re getting not that we got sidetracked there no but you’re getting these narratives now happening in women’s basketball you are okay the South Carolina South Carolina LSU is becoming a really chippy rivalry and then yesterday I don’t know if you saw

Kim Moy came out who was who was coaching LSU obviously and said she wish cardoo push Angel Reese her own player instead of flj Johnson because Angel ree is closer to her size which is like you just said you wish a player push your

One of your own players down but I I get it like there was a narrative of you know why are you pushing down the little guard and not Angel ree who was playing dirty with cardoo the whole game these narratives were all out there yesterday the Caitlyn Clark narrative is out there

The Caitlyn Clark angel rivalry that’s all going into the NCAA tournament and you know who nobody is talking about right now the school most responsible for all of this stuff happening I think what we have to ask ourselves as it pertains to the lady balls and if you think you can actually

Make money in women’s basketball which Caleb seems to think you can is the Caitlyn Clark thing sha white or is it snowboarding and by that I mean Shawn White was a perfect guy big red hair long curly red hair to promote snowboarding and then it bounced up and

Bounced up a huge other level and became a real thing is Caitlyn Clark that type of player that it becomes a real thing the answer is h no I mean no it’s not if Candace Parker who was bigger better and fact is gorgeous I if if she can’t make it a

Mainstream sport then Caitlyn Clark can’t make it a mainstream sport I I Caleb I love you and I think the lady vs are fantastic but you’re never going to turn a coin on that prove me wrong uh brought to you by our friends at City heat and air conditioning City heaten

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Here’s I I hate to be that guy but I’m that guy here’s the problem with your Candace Parker take Candace Parker has a little bit of chippiness and Edge to her and I’m gonna say it I’m gonna say it and you guys can you guys can come at me

But it was a giant giant flaw in in the way she approached the game Pat Summit approached the game of making women’s basketball you know I don’t want to say the phrase gentleman’s game so I guess a lady’s game and what I mean by that is

You play with class you win with class and you don’t carry yourself any other way is that fair to say that’s how Pat summ carried it coached it yeah that took the edge off of people like Candace Parker who is low-key one of the best trash Talkers in basketball but she

Reserves it a lot because of what she was coached to do by Pat Summit if you let Candace Parker beat Candace Parker then then you would have Angel Reese imagine Angel Reese and Caitlyn Clark’s attitude with Candace inside Kansas Parker Candace Parker that is what you need

Okay because you don’t have that right now you have Caitlyn Clark who’s got a little bit of the chippiness but Candace Parker was the perfect person to do that but Pat Summit kind of coached out you know you play like a lady you need to play appropriate and be good and you

Know carry yourself right and be a choir girl and in my mind I’m like not everybody needs to be a choir girl and Candace par has some Edge for instance one of the Miss moments Candace Parker has real beef with G Ori genuinely doesn’t like her like him because he for those who

Don’t know Gina or kept Candace spker off the 2016 Olympic team specifically because Candace Parker didn’t commit to play for Yukon in 2004 I’m not kidding that’s that is the narrative that needs to be out there more but they don’t talk she doesn’t talk about it that much

Because she’s too classy and what I’m saying is we need a bit we need a little bit of classlessness in women’s basketball okay and that’s where Angel Reese comes into play and just don’t think you’re I don’t think you’re ever gonna make money on it I I I don’t

Believe just financially that’s ever going to change I think the goal is to lose less um and that’s going to be how it plays out for the remainder of college sports however long that may be but I’ll and Tony by the way sorry keep going well I was gonna give you an

Interesting plan thatness he could do that’s a little off the beat and path but go ahead with what you were GNA say I was just going to say for Tony MOS you’re saying Caitlyn Clark is the best women’s player ever Caitlyn Clark could not start on the alltime lady V team or

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Jimmy heims on Wednesday now Caleb there’s another approach Tennessee could take what about just dialing down what you’re doing with the lady balls what about hiring a coach for $500,000 instead of $1.4 million and throwing another $900,000 a guy like Nico now I know that it’s not

The same fund and I know that you would have to call one booster and say hey if you can divvy up this part of your donation to Spire Sports because they need to pay Nico’s best receiver ever that’s what I would do I’d dial it down I’d have a $500,000 head coach I’d

Hope to go 500 until the football team won a championship and then I’d get serious you don’t like that at all do you but you kind of do that’s what’s tough I think I think the move is short shortsighted because I don’t I do think women’s basketball’s this is where we

Just disagree I think women’s basketball is growing more than you think it is and I think Tennessee needs to be on the cusp of it growing that because Tennessee is what happens if this happens Dave what happens if 50 years from now women’s basketball is a thriving Sport and Tennessee is the

Vanderbilt of women’s basketball which is for those who don’t know Vanderbilt was great in football in the 19s and you know up until the 80s you had these old guys that fought in World War I they were like you know Vander was great back in the day and like you’re

Going to see people saying that about the lady vs that are like 85 years old and be like why my day we had the lady vs Louisiana Tech Yukon and it’s like do you really want the lady vs to be that in 50 years well when you have a legend like

General neand or you have a legend Like Pat Summit those sorts of things happen you have decades long droughts in some cases and that may well be the case with Tennessee’s women’s basketball program in fact it’s already pretty close to that we’re about 15 years deep

Kids we are we are it’s it’s um I mean it’s and honestly I think it’s deeper than that I think I think Tennessee’s drought would be much longer if they did if Pat Summit didn’t strike gold and get Candace Parker because if you take out those two years with Candace Parker

Tennessee doesn’t have a national championship since 1998 no I know that’s like oh can you take out that year with you know this or that but that’s let’s be honest Candace Parker is the only 21 century Lady V that would start on the alltime lady VA

Team Smoky Mountain red said do you feel having a man coach uh ladies team would be a negative in recruiting besides Gino ARA um I don’t think so I’ve never thought about it like that we’ve always talk lady men but I’ve never I don’t think a men’s coach would not the p suit

Son did anything to help that narrative but I don’t think that would be an issue I wouldn’t have any issue with that would you let’s just I didn’t say that coming up here in just a moment uh we will right he does Bible study now guys

He does Bible study with his new wife the same way Hugh frees does Bible study I’m sure fine and it it may be altruistic but a lot of people say that and nothing’s changed but anyway no no no I I think anybody who says that does nothing changes that is always cover for

I’m still a pck I bet Bobby patrino probably says he does Bible study that’s not always but Tennessee’s defensive line is going to be pretty good how about some football up next new poll question on our YouTube page please take part in that is it okay if the balls get

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Grew up in uh Tennessee Caleb as both of us did so it is time I got my email this morning it was exciting it was it was neat uh I got my email for spring practice starting next week the first availability will be Monday to have a

Bunch of guys try not to say anything and then it’ll be Wednesday and Thursday so uh but Tennessee does hit the practice field so we want to get to a preview of Tennessee’s defensive line that is on offthe hookspace so let’s go ahead and dive in this day in Tennessee football

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Certainly a different day than we’re facing today with a disappointing weekend but football practice is right around the corner uh Caleb Tennessee’s defensive line in a preview by Josh Ward it is online should be very very good how good do you think they can be stacked up to other NCA other SEC teams

I should say Tennessee could be defensive line you for college football once again very very soon now it’s not going to be defensive line you it was under Tron Chavis because when they were defensive lineing you back then as you know Dave the focus was the defensive tackles and

Those really big guys that could kind of you know that the the focus was stopping the run with the defensive line is that fair to say in the Chavis years yes that yes this team is more about being serviceable and stopping the run but unleashing the hell of a pass

Rush and that’s what this team is going to be designed to do so looking at the defensive line and we can just start with the defensive tackles I mean the defensive tackles are there to be serviceable and do their jobs but not leap off your screen that’s kind of the

Way Tim Binks kind of designs the defense because they want to play off hyp what what Josh hyp does offensively so Bryson een Amari Thomas Omar Norman lot are the guys you’re going to be happy with with how they play in the middle the potential leap off your

Screen guy as you keep talking about Dave is Elijah Simmons if he becomes a leap off your screen guy you all of a sudden change the defensive tackle situation from serviceable to very very very deadly right maybe maybe Elite I don’t think that’s too far of a stretch

I agree that’s not too far of a stretch at all so that’s the real big one and then there are a couple of hybrid guys um mostly that that you want that can line up in the middle or on the edge and we’re talking Dominic Bailey Tyrie West

DAV Hobs those and Nathan Robinson those are kind of the main ones that should be able to do that and don’t forget Jason Je is still on the team too so those that’s a focus but right now the star part of the defense is as we know the edge rushers

Because Tennessee has James Pierce who I think you and I both agree is going to be the best Edge rester in college football this year allamerican probably can I ask you a quick question not to get you sidetracked but I would have said 10 years ago that defensive tackle

Is more important than the defensive end despite what pass rushers can do a strip sacks 10 years ago I would have said I’d rather have an elite defensive tackle than an elite Edge rusher I’ve changed in that I flipped have you flipped were you ever that way in the first place I

Think it’s very dependent on how your team is built um because okay put it this way when when when the Colts had pton Manning Edge rushers were more important Dwight Frey Robert matthysse remember it was pton Manning get us the lead Dwight Frey Robert matthysse we can

Unleash them now when the other team has to pass all the time it’s exactly how this team is built that’s exactly how this team is going yes but then there’s still the Rams a couple years ago when they had Aaron Donald and let’s be honest you’re not trading Aaron Donald

For anybody in the NFL are you if you have him on defense all right well let me let me make it a little more relatable to our listeners would you rather have James Pierce or John Henderson in this defense oh this defense that’s actually one of the best

Questions you’ve ever asked because that is good question that’s an amazing question Dave um thank you thank before you answer why you have time to think let me tell everybody it’s brought to you by Sports Treasures I was there over the weekend picked up an awesome piece of

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You taking John Henderson are you taking James Pierce or this defensive L I’m still taking John Henderson right now Dave you’re talking about I mean I’m just gonna say it and you guys can call me crazy because there’s Reggie White and Doug Atkins played in the middle

Steve Delong from the 1950s or 1960s the first Outland Trophy winner from Tennessee John Henderson is the greatest Tennessee defensive tackle ever okay I mean yes Albert Haworth he’s Albert Haworth had more Talent yeah from the neck up if Albert haworth’s okay I mean it was close it was closer than I think

You sometimes remember well yes but remember in 2000 Albert Haworth hadn’t arrived yet and John Henderson still Inon the Outland trophy without any help from Alber Haworth and there are a couple of players um on the defensive ends those years that put up James Pierce numbers one Bo number 90 and his

Name rhymed his first name rhymes with Mill um that put up James Pierce numbers because he played played next to John Henderson is that fair to say Dave yes yes um in this over Street yes will over Street uh th in this defense I’m I’m taking

Pierce I’m I’m taking Pierce I have to pick between Pierce and Henderson I know that sounds like pure heresy but a strip sack one strip sack can can really endure chances of beating this Tennessee football team if Nico is half the player that I believe he’ll be

And this offense is half as good as I believe it will be I mean the bottom line is if you if you turn the ball over be a strip sack and you have and you’re Tennessee and you’ve got one more possession that’s probably going to be a

Touchdown or a field goal and and it doesn’t just have to be a strip sack how many times do we see a pressure on a second or third down put you behind the chains in a long down and distance that happens a lot so I think it’s James

Pearson I feel like a bad person for even saying that Colton says crazy Caleb’s takes rubbing off on Dave uh and he also by the way I don’t know how many people watch this but stum business Josh is gonna be a thing uh for the record if

You didn’t see the short check it out please subscribe to the channel for more goofiness as Caleb made me look like a goofball and I laughed all weekend over it am I a bad football person for saying that I would take the edge rusher over

The tackle I feel nauy it depends on the system and the player that’s where I met in this case that I would take Pierce over Henderson I feel naughty you you know what since we’ve started this show you’ve disrespected John Henderson because and I feel like I want to say

This I feel like there is a resurgent I feel like there was a forgetfulness of John Henderson and I’m just going to give you guys an example this is at my old place um I was asked to do a out Rushmore of Tennessee players for the

Last 30 40 years and I was asked to name I was told that pton Manning and Reggie White have to be locks which okay they have to be locks I wanted to do I did Al Wilson as my third and then like I I was very tied between John Henderson and

Eric Barry as my fourth everybody came to me was like well Eric Barry obviously Eric Barry obviously obviously Eric Barry or with John Henderson and in my mind I’m like and then I saw last year there was a campaign to retire Eric Barry’s number which there shouldn’t be

He shouldn’t get his number retired as much as I love him because he didn’t finish at Tennessee which is fine but no campaign to retire John Henderson’s number and I’m thinking in my mind where is this idea that Eric Barry was so much more comp for Tennessee than John Henderson

Was well he was a consensus All-American wouldn’t you I mean I was John Henderson both were two-time all-americans who won the award for the best player at their position were they both unanimous or consensus I don’t want to get caught up in the minutia they were both elite

Players to me I would take Barry because of his versatility but it’s very very close I but and I say that and I almost go backwards and I would no I think I would take the defensive tackle actually okay you would take Barry over Henderson

As a player but in terms of I’m no I’m taking that back I would take okay fine but also in terms of a greater Legend I don’t like Barry getting treated as a greater Legend because okay I’m sorry I’m gonna say this Barry left after his junior year John Henderson decided to

Come back for a senior year when he didn’t have to that has to matter for something and do anybody notice that Caleb just gave me an all whatever type of thing all whatever you think Dave no I’m trying to say saying if I told you you’re starting a college program

You have to admit it’s close between Barry and Henderson I’m not sure how we got so far off topic but you have to minutes close I’m even considering taking Barry over Henderson but that’s not the question the question is who’s a greater legend for Tennessee and Henderson stay till his senior year

That’s not the question the question is we’ve completely Butch we’ve taken the question out back and beat it with a stick is what we’ve done to the but getting back back to the point you would take John Henderson over James Pierce in this defense correct yes wait wait a second wait a second

Play this game with no I’m just talking about one season I’m not talking about whether he stayed or not I don’t care about all that Eric Barry should have left we all know it he didn’t do anything wrong would you take Albert Haynesworth for one season over James Pierce no and

That’s where I was going with next and I will tell you why okay wait a second wait a second would you take Jesse Mahala over James Pierce in this system a light defensive tackle kind of like the guy you just mentioned Mr Donald there’s a similarity there yeah

In terms of fit for the defense Jesse Mahala is perfect for this defense I know I would take great I love Travis man I would take Jesse Malona over James Pearson this defense am I insane no I kind of agree with you Jesse Mahala specifically you have a point um there

There’s something else we have to throw in here this is why I said I take Pierce over hanesworth let’s talk about head cases for a minute look I’m not trying to throw Pierce under the bus but he did have a legal issue in December Dave let’s be honest now yes John Henderson

Didn’t qualify academically in 98 but from everything I’ve read once he qualified he became a very standup disciplined citizen right like a very good guy no doubt um like if if if you wanted an intimidating six seven guy marrying your daughter John Henderson’s the guy right and she’s allowed of slap

Him across the face like in those Jaguars pregame videos exactly and but Henderson knew when to turn it off and when to turn it on unlike hanesworth who didn’t who couldn’t really figure out that line Haynesworth had mental issues James Pierce has already gotten in trouble in a way that Henderson never

Did Henderson had an academic issue but never got in trouble and Mahala was about a stand up of a guy as you could ask for as in a human right and so I think that matters too we have to question if James Fon is gonna do something stupid that keeps him from

Playing now and never had that question about John Henderson once he got on the field um so that’s why yeah I take Mahala and Henderson over I take Mahala because the fit for the defense Henderson because he’s just amazing over Pierce but I would take Pierce over Haynesworth because yeah you don’t know

What you’re get hindsight’s 2020 but if I knew with Haynesworth that I could motivate him by telling him to get angry like dodgeball which is essentially what Jeff fiser did then I would go Haynesworth over Henderson for this defense I know that’s insane portions of the program brought

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Where the game begins all right so I did it I’m taking my hona over James Pierce maybe I’m insane and by the way rest in peace um I will just say that that was one fantastic young man to cover and always had a smile on his face and I do

Want to take a second to remember him as U just a great young great young man great to cover um so no great way to make a transition from that to this but we’re going to try hit the like And subscribe button yes you see in Big 10

Could be theoretically AED in a 14 team format uh the auto bids that is give us the latest on how this 14 team playoff which I’m not sure if it’s going to maybe gets enacted before this season even happens with the way it’s moving but give us the latest on what’s

Happening with the SEC and Big 10 and other conferences are going crazy so after the 12 team playoff went into effect two weeks ago well didn’t go into effect but they finally revamped and adopted the 5 seven model which is five conference champ the top five conference Champs and seven at large for

The 12 14 team playoff talk immediately began and the biggest reason was the SEC and Big 10 because college football and conf Commissioners and people that run this sport are just not the brightest people they don’t realize things that I had foresight of three years ago which

Is they learn oh no if we do a 12 team playoff our conference Championship games won’t matter file that under the category of duh you should have known that five years ago okay so they decided to go back to the table and say hey let’s make them matter the way we make

It matter is we make it a 14 team playoff and our Champions ought to get the two buys the SEC and Big 10 and so there came this 33221 model where three SEC teams three big 10 teams two ACC teams two big 12 teams and one group of

Five team would all get to the playoff a 14 team model it was gaining traction seemed like everybody was behind it well now it’s come back to the drawing board because it comes it turns out the ACC and the Big 12 are very very unhappy with automatic buys reserved for the SEC

And Big 10 champions okay let me let me ask you this let me ask you this if you’re in the position of those conferences how careful are you being where you step it’s like taking a dog out be careful where you step or you might get left out of the playoff

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Be careful if you’re another conference and you’re thumbing your nose at this idea if you’re saying nay to this idea because you might just get left out of a playoff altogether I’m going to go a step further I think they might shoot the conference Commissioner of said conference yes sh

The leg just a flesh wound I think this was a mavilia move by the SEC in the Big 10 because this happened right after they formed their Alliance and this is what I’m talking about I think they baited the outcry from the Big 12 in the

ACC so that just gave them leverage to walk away and say fine we’ll form our own League I think their long-term desire is to just break off anyway and I think this is I think what they want to do is win the pr battle when they do

It and so I think their goal is to say we tried peace we’re out we’re forming our own league and then they’ll take the few remaining teams from like the ACC or wherever that that that are going to collapse and they’ll bring them into the fold and they’ll call it a day

I think this thing is so they are so down the road the SEC and the Big 10 of creating their own league and not caring about anybody else from any other conference that I think that they baited the Big 12 in the ACC to do this and that’s where this is headed you

Know that I think crazy Caleb is sometimes conspiracy Caleb but I but I’ll tell you something I think you’re on to something because this makes a lot of sense represented by Banks and Jones and Jones well it’s because they’re Tennessee’s trial attorney you can play to win with banks and Jones

Because they’ll go to trial you’ve heard of other lawyers they say they’ll go to trial and fight for you they won’t they just want to settle that’s the easiest way out well that’s not Banks and Jones led by T Scott Jones they won’t settle they’ll go to trial for you Tennessee’s

Trial attorney they play to win truly Tennessee’s trial attorney when it comes to criminal defense or personal injury why settle Banks and Jones tcot Jones Banks and jones.com doesn’t it feel like the most natural method would just be have an Al and NL like major league baseball does doesn’t

It feel like that’s just kind of organically happened with the big 10 in SEC you can’t stop the ocean from throwing waves at you it feels like the motion of the ocean is going towards an Al NL fil now I wouldn’t have made that argument Caleb before the Big 10 went

Out and got UCLA and USC and other West Coast teams which at the time I said was incredibly stupid however I’m gonna go conspiracy Caleb here not crazy Caleb conspiracy Caleb what if Big 10 commissioner petite is that his name petiti petiti he’s such a petite guy yesy look at look at Dave

Examining his body okay so uh what if Greg zanki calls up says hey ptite I’m sorry petiti um what about you go out and get these teams and we’ve got the South pretty much locked down you’ve got the important teams and we had the west coast and we’ve got ourselves a new

NCAA what if that phone call happened that’s how smart I think Greg s is you and I differ on that a little bit but would you rule out that there’s a collusion because why in the world was it such big news think about this for for a second guys and yes you’re right

Dan eight West PL think about this for a second guys you had a situation in which the the Big 10 could go get whoever they wanted yet they go get West Coast teams from the TV Market none of that has made any sense this would actually make sense why

They went out and got two teams from La you look at what is built right now just in the Big 10 just in the SEC they have the mega conference right now it’s assembled it’s how many teams 34 34 right now yes and it’s probably I

Think I think it’ll end up at like 45 50 I think it’ll get to 50 when it’s all over I’ve been told 42 to 44 be but you could be right so there’s basically a mega conference already and they got a few spots left don’t be surprised if they’re able to

Cherry pick a few teams it maybe after the ACC blows up their television contract which I know is still like eight years away but it is all about that motion as Smoky Mountain red says um on our message board Caleb is that conspiracy enough for

You no I think you’re right first of all the Hairspray the musical was coming right into my head motion of the ocean or the Sun in the sky okay sorry um seeing that it’s great it’s great musical it’s a great musical you should

Go see it um okay so no man should see a musical other than Greece go ahead no that’s not true I love musicals um but what I here’s this is where this is where it’s going to get a little different see I actually think it’s going to be bigger

Because here’s what I think is going to happen with the SEC and the Big 10 they’re going to form their own deao NCAA they’re going to create conferences with in their conference does that make sense so like say the SEC ends up with like sorry Colton made me laugh I hate

It when people do that you’re Colton’s too clever because he referenced a stum business Josh um I guarantee you Eli drinkwitz doesn’t sound like that but it threw me off and now I’ve thrown Caleb off I’m sorry well it’s okay say the SEC gets to 24 teams

And this is what I see happening long term this isn’t you can call be crazy the SEC gets to 24 the Big 10 gets to 24 they each have three 18 divisions those divisions are the conferences within the conference so what they do and this is

What I think is going to happen you’re going to see the college football playoff incorporated into to the divisions and the Conference titles so I think what you’re going to see happening I should write a column on this one day because this is how I think the for’s

Going to go the the three18 conferences the winners of those three the the top two teams of all of all three of those conferences will play on conference champ Championship Saturday is that fair to say they’ll play each other on conference Championship Saturday mhm so that’ll be 888 888 that’ll be six games

With 12 teams playing each other on conference Championship Saturday the winners of those go to a college football playoff and then two wild which is six teams and then two wild cards are selected from the other conferences and leagues that’s what I think is going to

Happen all right all right well I think it listen gone from crazy Caleb to conspiracy Kaleb to I think correct Caleb I think there are all kinds of moves being made behind the scenes uh I don’t I don’t think there’s any question about that moves being made behind the

Scenes that could um that could be beyond our knowledge right now a little bit how about more recruiting and prizes well real quick I got one question Dave yes what’s the difference between crazy conspiracy and Truth I’ve never heard this before I’m interested about five years really whatever a crazy it’s it’s

Usually a crazy conspiracy and then five years later it’s true it’s confirmed true what did the comedian say to the horse why the long face Nay if you would like prizes and more recruiting info then you can join hooker for the inside skinny on off the hook Sports recruiting information interaction with everyone at off the hook Sports as well as weekly and monthly grand prizes which is a brew McCoy autographed helmet that’ll be this

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