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Timestamps:
0:00 The Vibes Were Good
2:00 Aaron Judge Went for an MRI on his Abs
12:35 Gerrit Cole Went for an MRI on his Elbow. We’re Prepared for the Worst.
26:00 Who Starts Opening Day?

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Today is March 12th judge and call bad updates let’s talk Yanks oh wow not the full song spring I didn’t think it was possible not hopeful well we’ll see we’ll see how we land at the end of the show thank you for joining us on talking Yanks brought to you by seek you can use the code

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BBD behind the dish coming off a weekend where we were working and having fun in our warehouse and The Vibes of spring were good even though I was kind of overreacting about some stats and you know because there was nothing else really that bad going on and then I got a

DM on Saturday I should shout out his name uh because I he put the fear into me uh will will said uh should we be worried about Cole being hurt he’s only thrown two innings this spring and I was like well [ __ ] now I’m worried and then

Uh fast forward and Cole’s getting an MRI and then judge takes swings he comes out he’s going to get an MRI and the whole thing stinks of Yankees Jake how are you James Davis yeah sad sad Monday at the office uh when we do our warehouse stuff literally everyone comes

Back sick which I don’t know we’ll cut edit that out of the episode in 20 years when we all have aestus or something uh and then it was judge and it’s like oh shoot the judge wins which is so funny because that’s kind of I’m good by the

Way not really uh but we see the judge Wentz and it’s like okay we know the big fella the big fow never shows any emotion when it comes to anything and we’re all locked in uh on his oblique because of because of the history there and uh so it’s judge and

It’s oh go oh God are we back again is this happening you’re getting couple weird ugly videos on Twitter that it’s like oh yeah I see it and I I don’t know the video was kind of Taken weird too judge looked like his body was in a fun house for a little

Bit and then the Cole news comes and it’s elbow and it’s MRI and man that one stung that had Yankee fans stand in at each other like what that’s kind of that’s the guy we can’t lose both guys we can’t lose and it kind of made

The the judge news better so if you’re looking for the ultimate Spin Zone The Fear the fear element of Cole’s elbow compared to what uh what we assumed was judges oblique at the time uh I don’t know but that’s as close as you can get to an optimistic spin

Just uh a brutal 24 hours in Yankee land on March 11th my sister’s birthday yeah birday rits the full timeline of Judge we can tackle him first and Justin penck and Kiana happy birthdays it was K’s birthday yeah oh damn um the full timeline of Judge just to let you guys

Know in his second at bat on Sunday I believe he kind of swung and did his thing where he kind of goes like this and it looks like a smile but it’s a slight winse it’s third time really like where he’s done it and and then on

Twitter people are like you see that and half the crowd’s like that’s nothing and then the other crowd’s like no that’s something first time it was oblique turns out the crowd was right second time last year was hip 10day iil was something if judge swings makes a

Grimace and then they pull him from the game guys that’s something there’s still a lot of people like trying to act like it’s not that and then they asked Boon about it and this is the one that really bothers me is he came out and said even though the other starters needed four

Got three or four plate appearances the plan was always to have judge only have two I I texted you guys right away that there’s 0% chance that’s that I don’t know why they don’t just say yeah he felt something better be safe than sorry especially right now

We’re just going to we spring train no no need just going to see what it is um and maybe judge says I don’t want you to say it so then Boon’s left in a hard spot but then the next day he’s not in either lineup they got split Squad so

It’s like okay well what’s going on and then the next day which is today March 12th they say they did send him for MRI on his abs which isn’t really common um someone did find that like that phrase was used for Canó way back and Steve

Pierce in 2014 uh but MRI on his abs on Twitter like never been done before and it’s like are they are they changing the the name because that’s what the Yankees do they change the names of things to downplay the injuries uh because if it’s oblique that’s really bad um is it just

ABS now judge then did come out and he said it’s not my oblique and the MRI came back clean I’ve been taking swings all offseason I think I’ve overdone it a little bit just need my to give my body some rest to recover so hopefully that’s all true but I feel like at

Times we’ve heard that and it is true and it is fine like when they said the hip thing it was hip discomfort last year and at the end of April I think and they said it’s 10 days it’s only going to be 10 days and we’re like okay like

Sure so that could be nothing with judge yeah I mean that was even my you know we’ve we’ve all been dating the Yankees for our lifetime we’re married to the Yankees um and you know they’re they’re giving us some of some of their signals like you said well the other star got

Four at bats judge gets two lie uh boony had the mid-spring beat up quote uh that’s a a now semif famous one but again that that one you know you were right on like you know that’s just boony going through it saying saying words to get through an

Answer the part that kills me I’ve AC I’ve accepted that that they do that right which you don’t even have to but you know that’s your loved one we all have our flaws I always have a pile of clothes that forms next to the the bed I

Can’t stop it if I wanted to sorry Jess they said judge was going to play Wednesday which like how much of that’s the lie that’s too far for me like why don’t why don’t you just say yeah judgy felt something you know it’s it’s spring training so we’re we’re going to be

Careful with him end of sentence don’t say we pulled him intentionally and he’s going to play Wednesday all lies all lies I wonder if he said something like uh the plan is to have him back out there Wednesday hopeful to have him back out there Wednesday but

He’s he’s saying that after the mids spring beat up beat up that he’s just trying to get him off his feet for a second so I don’t know judge basically did say it was mids spring beat up beat up he’s beat up he’s working too hard swinging too many times um but it

Happened on one swing so like it’s kind of a result of that but we also saw it live uh and the guy shows no emotion it is funny like I part of me enjoys the online debate about it a little bit cuz judges Grim’s face is the pitch uh I

Feel a lot of players would make if they just like get beat on a pitch they’re like ah ah oh yeah but judge you know he stays pretty emotionless on the field uh but he says it’s not as oblique it’s in his abs so that’s good oblique strange

Stinks and he’s had that before and for anyone that wants to see a diagram of the body to understand that I pulled it up cuz I was serous I was like okay obliques ABS it’s in his belly not his side I felt that some people say uh sports hernia right in your lower

Abdomen that would be really bad it’ be bad but it could just be like yeah you got mild oblique strain we’re like going to wait it out right and it’s you know we think it’s not oblique we’re still not fully sure we as we’ve said it’s tough to believe everything you’re

Hearing and seeing these days um but either way that’s an injury that would suck if judge misses opening day he like you said he came out he’s he spoke on the injury he said it’s not the oblique he said the goal is to be ready for

Opening day kind of took that jab at spring training like if I miss games that don’t matter to playing games that do matter that’s good um would obviously love to see him take a couple swings before Houston on opening day and that gets interesting we have our event the

Last day of spring training that could be fun and then they head to mexic which again you hear in our voice just a little offbeat um you know there’s a chunk of my soul that would love to see judge play the last game of spring training and then just head straight to Houston

But that’s none of my business that’s the Yankees and MLB’s business so interested to see the next up I mean when are we going to get true judge updates he said he wanted to was there a swing at the end of the week was that before today’s

Quotes I’m guessing he doesn’t swing for a week and then then you go from there and it might push him back a little bit he said they asked if he was going to confident he’d be ready for opening day and he said I’m pretty sure I don’t want

To speculate or talk about anything that hasn’t come yet the most important thing is taking some time now and be back out there soon so I would guess he’s taking seven to 10 days off to give his body rest and recuperation which I would then guess

Pushes him for opening day a little bit that’s good rest is good I mean if that’s fine if we’re just talking not a major injury that’s fine right but that’s not it’s going to happen and whatever you don’t want it to be right away but maybe you do you

Missed the first road trip you’re back at the stadium something like that I judge coming out and talking about it I actually feel a little better about it like that does calm my nerves if we never heard anything about it from him then I would be a little more upset uh

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Go get yours now code Yanks Shady Rays click the link in the description the cold news is bad just want to let you guys know yes um prepare yourself for the worst the timeline is not good they got the MRI like judge got his MRI they already

Knew the results they got the MRI for Cole they’re not telling us any of the results Cole’s not talking about it they just said they’re getting second and third opinions yep Bas and they basically said that as they said he was getting the first one like and he will

Get second and third opinions and he never has issues he never really like looks at his elbow that much and you do this now a lot of players don’t go get MRIs because all pitchers have [ __ ] up arms so if you go under the the MRI

They’re going to show you like ah this this this and then they say get even if you can pitch through it it gives you a little bit of anxiety and all that stuff so he’s never done it before but he’s doing it but the fact that they’re not telling us anything

The process and okay I’m just giving you the Doom and Gloom version he could be fine we could get a scenario where like it just needs rest and he decides it’s not bad enough he’s going to pitch through it until it gets bad we’re gonna he’s going to take a break for three

Weeks but usually how this works when you get an MRI on your elbow and it turns out you need Tommy John and we’ve been through this with a couple of the Yankees where we were kind of closer to the situation and knew what was happening in this interim time if you

Get a couple opinions and then the player has to decide pitch through it get the surgery who’s going to do the surgery because they get it done quick soon as they announce it it’s like the next week they go get it so there’s a lot of decisions being made right now if

This is the case it might not be again I’m just giving you the Doom and Gloom but when there is a delay between getting the MRI needing second and third opinions and now we’re getting reports from Bob Nightingale that they have re-upped their offer for Dylan cease in trades just prepare for the

Worst prepare for the worst hope for the best and I I think I think every baseball fan knows the worst it would be Tommy John which at this point of year uh that would be you know you’d hope to see Garrett Cole next year middle of

Next year early to mid next year and if that bomb drops Head Drop that’s that really stings and I I don’t know I already had the the dark thoughts of like you know Garrett w a sa young last year and that’s cool but you know where

Should we been using him in in a dead season down the stretch I don’t know that’s obviously after the fact because I’m very happy Garrett got us S Young and it’s not his fault the team was ass hello um the best case scenario would be

What G Cole’s not going to throw for two to three week weeks he goes out and throws he’s basically got to do a complete spring training which would be a month or so he misses April best case from now I think that would I think that’s kind of the

Current best case Seno de Mayo Cole um but back in 2016 he had just elbow inflammation and sat out six weeks that’s I think he came back for one start in the middle of that but so I don’t know he’s he’s had his elbow checked out and it not be this before

And I I mean I guess if we are like looking towards the optimistic side from everything we currently know which we spent the first 15 minutes of the show talking about this is a partner in the relationship that does lie to us sometimes it’s not like there was a

Pitch he walked off the mound and was like oh crap they said he wasn’t recovering he said yeah it’s as if he pitched 100 innings in a season that’s how his arm feels now which a take you into the window of the life of a picture a little bit in

How bizarre it is netor had a quote that was like I didn’t know it was that bad he’s like I didn’t oh he said I didn’t realize how serious it was right that was like the Nester quote or something like that which hey that’s the called it alarming we’ll take we’ll call

This the Nester bucket the optimistic bucket because that’s how I think Nester lives his life that’s optimistic well no just kind of living blind and like oh I didn’t think it was bad um is that hey like we said with judge like this is spring training if

Your elbow is feeling that way let’s not push it for another start and hopefully we’re talking about we stopped throwing you started feeling better and that’s the next step but yeah I mean that uh Cole Cole is a lot of the rotation yeah a lot of the rotation man

And damn that would be devastating the uh you got SoDo for one year and then you’re without Cole for that one year if you know they don’t retain SoDo which get ready for a whirlwind the next 2448 whenever we get this information cuz we already I’m uh I like Bob Nightingale the person

Not the hugest hugest fan of his reporting um you know instantly we already got Yankees up there cease trade offer which who knows where that’s coming from um but sure and Snell and Monty are still free agents so I guess the again going to the optimistic side of the coin there are

Things that can be Solutions um I don’t know what buttons the Yankees will press the other kind of weird fun combos that come out of this opening day starter becomes kind of a wonky donkey situation uh and then like we talked about the Yankees depth it’s

Uh you know that was the other injury news we got your guy is probably going to be out to start the year right Luke Weaver I didn’t fully I just saw he went down cuz his neck something was going on with his neck I think Boon this morning

Said had like a didn’t sound serious oh okay granted we just talked about how the team feels like they lie to us sometimes but out of will Warren chat Clayton beer been twirling the pill well but you know we’re starting I’m getting so upset starting to dig a

Little bit getting so sad right now okay just not having coal for two years would suck [ __ ] in theory it wouldn’t be two at this point I just did all the checking everyone that’s got it in in May in March has come back September the next

Year okay so it’ be all of this year majority of next year sucks so it makes sense that they’d go you know there’s a price for Snell and you’re still paying for a call even though he’s not pitching it’s like that money puts on pause so they still want

To don’t want to go up the tax so C’s makes sense for them to turn because they get him for two years yeah depending what price you have to pay I always wonder you well they need how do Yankees Insurance stuff start like will they like I’m just

Yankees accounting guy does that affect the the tax at all idea not the tax but I think they might get real life they might the Yankees organization might get tax be affected yeah interesting I don’t again if I think if you work in the Yankees accounting please reach out I need

Help I got a letter my 2015 taxes I can’t tell if it’s a fraud or not I got mine stolen from me we’re like working on getting it back um I think Martino also said like there’s a lot of news on new offers for ceas or something

Like that he said like the industry Chatters that a lot of teams have better offers there’s a ton of Industry chatter about better offers force from other clubs then what the Yankees are offering I guess that’s what he’s alluding to there man I think you got to

Go up that if they know that Cole’s gone I think they got to go up that offer for CE yeah I mean and not to sound not to sound dumb do you have any do you have any lines in the sand Prospect wise Spencer Jones is the name

That people are throwing out and they said the Yankees still haven’t been willing to put in the offer but at this point with the SoDo Factor the coal Fear Factor yeah you’d be getting two years you’d probably trade will Warren I don’t know if they’d uh what they want though

Right white socks that’s the other side of the it sounded like they really want Jones but or do they just want that because because he’s their number one Prospect you know right because sometimes they just want the number one just because uh their fan base and everyone else like he’s number one rodri

Aras um yeah Lombard’s having an impressive spring you love George L no idea if that’s true or not but he’s playing a lot right I have no idea I’m not an expert on trades or I don’t know what the white socks want if they did if they

Did Jones I’d be like H okay sign SoDo pza um pza is injured we didn’t really cover that he’s out 68 weeks yep it happened yeah I don’t think he was going to make Camp anyway they really weren’t talking like he was oh I’m just talking

Injury bug and how we we do all the conversations of how’s it oh how will this break and I tell you this if they do trade for CE then much like how higgy was part of the Padre’s trade I think rvet would be like and you have to take rvet you guys

Want rvet unless they have a plethora of catchers they got they Maldonado and stassy yeah Cory Lee I don’t know how you guys got a DFA him not us I don’t know I’m interested to know I texted you guys almost joking like if they were to announce right now we

Sign snow the reactions would be [ __ ] yeah Cole’s hurt but if they were announced Cole’s hurt and then the next day they announced we sign Blakes now the reaction would be like okay better but I think they the Yankees would do it Snell first then C to try and like bandaid

It yeah I also don’t know I don’t I think they’re signing Snell um because now they’re going to try and trade for ceas before Snell or Monty yeah again that’s where the the the business of the Yankees can be fun sometimes like say if they could collect Cole’s

Contract via Insurance what CE is getting paid this year although you’d still have to double it with the tax could the Yankees make money on the transaction action um I don’t know I doubt they’re they’re there yet um you have to do something though right cuz otherwise we’re we’re already into will

Warren Clayton beer CH Hampton heels looked good this spring both Cody’s I think tell themselves they can start Cody’s still haven’t gotten there yet we’ll get there yeah I don’t I don’t know what they’re going to who’s going to be the six now it’s like something I

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Bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance CD kng.com bball for eligibility and deposit restrictions terms and responsible gaming resources who do you give the pill to on opening day Houston let me pull my Google sheet I got to change it now I believe I believe strowman would get

It so we’ve got Marcus strowan Yankees free agent former Allstar Carlos ran big contract tough last year lost some weight looks good hasn’t pitched necessarily well clarky and Nester well they gave they told strowman he was going to pitch opening day in the Bronx yeah they had said home opener for

Him uh if they wanted to keep it that way I don’t think they could make rodon the Houston starter and strowman 2 and then they could stay that way and he would also be the Bronx home opener I don’t hate starting rhon on opening day but it’s a little bit of the

Sicko in me going back to last year’s rodon where I was I was doing like my Joker in the jail cell clap like wow you really put yourself against it that if rhon opening day against Houston if he gets a dud oh my God if he lights out he

Basically erased a chunk of last year not all of last year but I don’t know the the sicko side of me likes rhon getting the pill game one the rotation just Cole helped so much man he’s good I mean now rodon strowman Nester Schmid Bader heel Warren what are the options for those

Guys everyone’s got options left obviously yeah I mean beer hasn’t been called up have any none of those guys have right heal heel but all of them and Yogo could be up and down yeah or Weaver and then someone’s uh if he’s like fine right and and then a reliever gets uh the

Spot like Lis heel you wonder uh you know I don’t know if we’ll do a full episode on it we’re going to see later this week we’re hoping to get coal updates there are still other MLB Starting free agents who aren’t sneller or Monty like I know Michael Lenin’s out

There um Matthew Boyd you’re guy uh Domingo Hermon probably pass Dallas kyel yeah jako to Rizzy sure bring him in Nester just got destroyed in Spring not that it matters or doesn’t matter twins just uh lit him up fastball day fastball day see what you can do

With Cole I was like yep everyone’s going to be better everyone’s going to buy in and now it’s like oh man this might this might be ugly the rotation suddenly like you have that uh that effect where Cole makes them all a little hotter safer and now it’s like oh we take him

Away and this is this is interesting well it it’s funny because we’ve talked a lot about the depth of the rotation this off season but that was built off of Garrick Cole it’s like well you know if Nester doesn’t bounce back then who are we going to tap into

We had a nice cement Foundation if rodon isn’t it again what are we going to tap into whole thing is popsicle sticks now um that yeah I’m um like all Yankee fans very very interested to see the next update I don’t know it could be not bad I guess no

Way well I mean even if no way even if they say he’s not getting TJ we’re going to check back in in a month still not great news they wouldn’t do that it the next update will be if he’s getting Tommy John it’ll be the next update they never prolong that

That’s what I just said if he’s not getting Tommy John but they wouldn’t have like we’ll see in a month it would be like he’s good to he’s fine that’s him not getting Tommy John he’s gonna take a month off he’s gonna start throwing why take a month off that’s

What I’m saying I don’t think that world exists his he has elbow inflammation he he doesn’t have he doesn’t need Tommy John forearm thing what whatever it is yeah like cuz also think about what you just said so you went through the history most of those pitchers if they

Get Tommy John now they don’t come back till September September or October the next year we’re talking about one year of SoDo I mean wouldn’t it be worthwhile to wait a month or two anyways if he doesn’t because he’s basically missing next year already anyways I think that’s where it’s up to him

But I’m just saying if if he’s getting it they usually get it and they get it quick Tanaka was the only one who did that alternate now now the surgery is even a little different too yeah you could take a I mean just like judged but it’s like a month off I

Don’t know weird see bummed out about it getting some MRI updates fact that it would be like two years is pretty pretty bummer okay well CE come on down he’s not Cole he’s not Cole plays disc golf though he does he does he plays disc golf so you know what

Do you really want I thought at the end of this I was going to get more like talk myself into positivity the beginning with judge yeah yeah I feel the fact that he stood up and was like I’m good I just need time makes me feel better Uh the more I think about the Cole situation I’m Downer sorry guys good news is I could be very wrong could just be like he’s got tickled by his funny bone tired tired it’s like in in 2016 he missed when he had that elbow inflammation he missed 30

Games was back about a month later that might be a fun H comment below what you what what would you sign up for judge back by the allstar game would kind of Shake on that it’s crazy I want judge for home opener if it’s nothing I was on Cole oh

You said judge Cole allstar game I’d sign up for that give us some updates next time on talking Yanks St still looks tough DJ get a nice hit wellie looks good po to Homer in a double yeah Waldo out of three a day oh wow new number o

Waldo good for him cheer me up in the comments goodbye go Yanks T grams go Yankees go Yan go yanan Soto Yankees Soto and Dominguez did you see that picture of them looking at Swans in the pond Dominguez out judge out Cole out just Soto’s team