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Why Start a Podcast Ep. 5: Court Storming Controversy, Windsock Awards & Pro Mascot Draft



Welcome back to another riveting episode of “Why Start a Podcast” with Braden Surprenant, Will Galvez, and Matt Perez!

In this episode, the trio delves into the recent controversy surrounding court storming in college basketball, sparked by comments from Jay Bilas. They discuss the tradition of storming the court or field, the safety concerns associated with it, and whether stricter measures should be implemented.

Additionally, Matt introduces a new segment called “Windsock of the Week,” highlighting individuals who flip-flop on issues based on popular opinion, with Jay Bilas earning the inaugural title.

Following their discussion on college basketball, the conversation shifts to dissecting the current state of the Padres baseball team. There is concern expressed regarding the team’s lineup and roster depth, with particular focus on the decision to potentially rush young prospects like Jackson Merrill to the major leagues. The hosts critique the team’s decision-making, historical precedents, and the implications for the upcoming season.

In this extended conversation, the hosts engage in a draft of professional sports mascots, adding a light-hearted and humorous element to their podcast. They discuss various mascots from different sports teams, sharing anecdotes and memories associated with each one. The conversation meanders as they debate the merits of different mascots and reminisce about memorable moments related to sporting events they’ve attended. The draft extends to five rounds, with each host selecting their favorite mascots from across the sports world. The banter reflects their shared love for sports and the quirky elements that make attending games so enjoyable.

Tune in for insightful discussion, sports banter, and more on this week’s episode!

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What’s up and welcome into another edition of why start a podcast I’m braden Surprenant that’s matt perez that’s will galvez who was battling inner demons in his stomach as he went to field house over the weekend and got a little shaken up will how you how you feeling

Buddy we get we uh are we solid again or is it still are we still liquids uh solid as gross as that sounds to describe us Yeah. Yeah. Um, a lot better. Thank you for checking in. Yeah. I had a great weekend. That was a lot of fun. Knocked off a bucket list.

Um, I didn’t for sure going to Allen field house. It was extremely bad-ass, a lot of fun. It was some coworkers who are alumni and they show me the ropes and you know, the, the dive bars around and it was a blast and met a lot of people.

Um, it was the aftermath though, and the plane ride back. which sucked and got a pretty gnarly stomach bug. Couldn’t really hold anything down. Um, just puking and diarrhea it was just beautiful it was awesome but I feel a lot better a lot

Of electrolytes and medicine and now I’m here with you guys but if this was last night I probably would have been absent and missed my first episode so appreciate you checking in on the big 12 is so annoying um basketball I just lost a bet it’s good basketball man

It’s outstanding it’s just horrible to bet on but no man good weekend I’m feeling better thanks for checking in how are you braden how are you matt Doing well. How’s the fog? Not sick. Did you get the full info on the fog? Had a good time? Yeah. Yeah. That’s good. It was.

Was there any sign of Big J? Yeah. Where’s Big J? How was Big J looking? Did you see? Yeah, he was good. Matt, you love mascots, don’t you? Is that your thing that gets you off? Just the mascots around you?

I was a mascot guy as a kid, but I think I’ve turned over that leaf in my life into being a mascot guy. Perez told a story one time, but he used to be afraid of mascots as a child. And now he’s obsessed with them.

Oh, you’re like, you’re like more than obsessed with them. And like blue muse, like a little pet. I feel like those ones terrified me as a kid. Head rough and blue muse. Yeah. Put this guy in a box.

If Matt, if Matt saw a mascot on hinge, he would, he would definitely swipe, you know, right. Cause he would just be like, Oh yes, big J. He wasn’t there though. He was cool. Little J there. Yeah, he was. They performed. It was badass, man. That’s crazy.

I mean, Braden, you went to a Big 12 school. That’s the atmosphere, dude. It was crazy. You got to see the original rules of basketball. Dr. Naismith. They have an exhibit. There was just a feel. I feel like there’s certain venues in college and pro sports…

I would say like maybe cameron indoor or like where unc plays like lambeau field probably like the old yankee stadium or like wrigley or fenway like there’s certain arenas and fields where you’re like okay this is right it you get chills and it was not to nerd out

But it was it was awesome  it was a great atmosphere  and it’s just it’s cool and it’s just kind of like kind of geared me up for march madness it’s like it’s it’s going to be fun I’m excited Yeah, it’s going to be really cool to check 

Out, and it’s going to be  a good college basketball. I think there’s a lot of parody in college basketball. We talked about that last week, but we do want to dive into some college hoops. My TC Horned Frogs lost to Baylor last night.

Tough, tough loss, but they’ll be back at it at BYU, who just knocked off Kansas moments ago. And so it’s just an ever grind in the Big 12 week after week. But it’s not just the Big 12, dude. The Mountain West is an absolute…

Gauntlet right now with the top six teams in conference we got a big game for the aztecs tonight as they will tip off here in about 30 minutes um god eight o’clock tips are brutal especially for you that has to watch that game at nine o’clock at night mountain time

Yeah but the aztecs are figured by 22 and a half tonight against san jose state and I know we had Joe Lenardi’s bracketology come out. And as of right now, I know Matt Perez has the, uh, the info on that.

We got, uh, we got some pretty good matchups coming up here in the near future and some new teams potentially making the tournament. I I’m, I’m looking forward to this tournament. I think it’s, I think it’s anybody’s tournament to be honest with you. probably more than any other year in recent memory.

It’s kind of anybody’s tournament. You know, there’s no dominant player outside of Zach 80 being really tall, you know, and that’s the same for every team. There’s no real thing as like a dominant team. Like, yes, Houston’s number one overall, you know, team right now according to the poll

But joe lenard has got purdue as a number one right team in this tournament right so there’s no true well as number one team like there has been in previous years as a fan of an eight nine potential team like you’re gonna match up with the one next I’m not afraid

Of purdue as a tcu fan I’m not afraid of arizona I grew up in Arizona fan. I know they’re not a top five team. I don’t know what people see in them. And TC already beat Houston once this year. I mean, they’ve already beaten the number one seed. Granted that was at home.

It’s a lot different when you’re playing in a tournament and they kind of caught them off first couple of big 12 games for the school. But yeah, I’m not afraid of the one seeds. I’m not really afraid of a lot of these seeds.

I think there are a lot of teams that are, you know, like a TCU that have the talent and the speed to get to the final four. And they also are so inconsistent. They can get rolled in the first round. I think San Diego State’s in that category.

There’s a lot of teams that are just dark horses. Messing with Grand Canyon as a 12 seed is not going to be fun. Playing Irvine is not going to be fun for a big school. My sister school, High Point, is potentially going to make the tournament for the first

Time ever in school history if they can win their conference tournament in the Big South at home. They get to host it, and they’ve been really good. They might be able to… excuse me, get on somebody. So I think it’s going to be fun, man.

I mean, you got blue bloods that are at like five and six seeds now instead of the usual one twos, you know, you got a seed in BYU that was supposed to be a seven seed just knocked off Kansas. It’s, it’s going to be fun. I’m looking forward to it.

Plus there might be six teams, the mountain West in the tournament. And you never know what those teams are going to show up and be like. I can’t wait to use PTO and just eat an abundant amount of shitty food and drink beer and watch

Every one of these games and gamble on all of them. God, it’s the best. I think March Madness is better than Christmas, honestly. First two days? Those first two days. The best. I mean, you know… before like working when I was still working in sports like you know

You gotta there’s you know a job at hand now like what I do is it’s not that hard at all so it’s like all right I’m definitely taking those days off and it’s I mean matt I’m sure

You feel the same way as braden does as I do I mean and we’ll get to this as we get closer but man those first two days I’m getting chills. How old were you guys when you first started seeing all of the score bugs?

When TBS and TNT and True  TV, it is just continuous  score bugs across the top. It is hilarious. I think I was like… maybe elementary school. Like when I was like, my dad would show me, I look at all these games. I didn’t really understand the concept yet.

And then just knowing that there’s like 64 teams simultaneously going to be playing within a span of like eight hours. It’s, it’s unreal. It’s amazing. was super into brackets when I was a kid and then my mom was like oh you should this is

The best bracket of them all because she could take she went to arizona it’s a wildcat take she would always watch march madness in fact when my parents were in the hospital waiting for me to be born they were watching march madness games like because I was born in months

So um it was kind of ingrained in me at a young age and so I think I filled out my first bracket and I didn’t like predict it but I would I would make a huge bracket and just

Kind of follow along and fill out my own thing I think I did that my first time like I was nine or ten yeah and I remember like back in the day when not all of the games were

On a station you could watch like it was only and then like every once in a while you could find it on like tnt it was some other station I forgot tbs maybe And then you would have to, like, watch the bug in the corner, like the little score update ones.

You couldn’t flip it back and forth. They don’t have the viewing process like they have now. And I remember sitting there, like, watching scores as you’re watching the game, going like, oh, that game’s getting close. Or like, that was a blowout. Now it’s tight.

And I remember in elementary school, the teachers would put it on, like, while we were in class. Yes. Yes. One of the kids would be freaking out watching the game. Everybody had their own bracket. Like, oh, I had Texas A&M in this one. And…

The cool teachers would put it on because they would want to watch two on a Thursday or Friday. It’s top-level stuff. I was much older in my basketball viewing experience. It probably wasn’t until I was in seventh or eighth grade where I started. That’s still really young. Remember the tournament?

Right. It was the same deal, though. We would get a teacher to throw it on the big screen, and then you’d be sneaking your phone in underneath the desk to watch the three other games that are running at the same time. you know, so that’s like my, probably my earliest memory.

Now I was like 12 or 13, but yeah, much, much  older and, you know, farther  along in my basketball journey compared to you guys. It makes, it makes like college basketball so much fun. It’s do you still, so like, obviously we do the brackets like with ESPN, with our buddies

From school or, you know, work or whatever, but, I’ll admit, I still fill out a paper bracket. This is another nerd out moment. Me and a couple of my buddies will get on FaceTime or to Zoom, whatever, have a couple of beers and just go through the bracket one by one.

It’s the funnest time. That’s my video games. That’s how much of a blast I have doing it. Then we’ll go back and forth. And then we all end up just getting our brackets busted within the first few hours. And it’s like it’s one of the best traditions. Like, I don’t care.

I’ll do that probably until I die. You know, everyone’s like, oh, I just have my phone. Like, no way. The bracket is the best. That is the best. I can’t think of a better paper and cross out teams or something. Yes. Yeah. It’s something Sharpie.

It’s the beauty of college sports because all of those kids are playing probably. know especially the seniors because in the nba I mean they’re not going to make the nba a lot of those guys they’re playing basketball for the final time like the final time they play basketball and they’re playing for their 

Basketball lives and the  passion and the excitement and the crowd and all that stuff it makes it makes it really fun and there’s a lot of cool things about college athletics that make it really fun um and one that was kind of controversial this week with storming the courts and storming fields.

And you’ve got guys like Jay Billis that are out there, you know, saying these outlandish things about getting rid of court stormings and Seth Greenberg’s talking about it and all these, you know, all these guys. And I’m kind of in the middle of, I do think it’s overplayed. I do think it’s overplayed.

I think too many schools storm courts and fields for no reason. They’re either ranked higher, like Wake Forest was against Duke, or you didn’t beat a ranked team or a rival. I think there’s some unwritten rules about… storming the court in the field and I think

The more you do it the less luster it has it’s not nearly as cool anymore but I’m definitely not in the party of banning all of it I think it would makes college athletics very fun it was a very interesting topic that a lot of people weighed in on and obviously we wanted

To talk about that and and kind of poke fun at some of the older guys, but understanding the context that it is starting to turn a little bit into a safety problem because we’ve already had two this year result in student athletes getting hit by ongoing fans and other students.

So I did want to kind of bring that topic up and see what you guys thought on the whole court storming. Are you in favor of it? Are you against it? Or do you think there should be special occasions when you do it? Leah’s off, Matt.

Let’s hear your take because you were a little fired up before we started recording. Which is going to lead us to our next segment. There’s definitely some unwritten rules. Storm in a field slash court. Totally. But I think the whole luster and the whole idea of it is what makes college athletics

So fun and there should be no reason why to stop it. You can storm a field in college and you can’t do that in the pros. Right. And there are safe ways to do so. Like, I think it was UConn last week that had like in their own little like area kind

Of, you know, tapered off from their bench. So you could so like those players could go into the tunnel, which we’ve seen in college football. Right. Right. I mean, when we were at the Alabama game, they did that. Yeah. Protected the Alabama team.

Yeah staff and kids and they’re like go ahead there are ways to you know kind of cover yourself from any sort of danger um so I’m pro field storming courts I mean my some of my best memories from college are storming the field right on games that you’re not supposed to

Win and you’re doing it with your buddies and it’s just peered like 10 15 minutes of like euphoria Right. And just because there’s one instance, and I mean, let’s be honest here. If it wasn’t a Duke player or a, you know, a player from one of these huge blue blood

Programs, like nobody would care. Like if this was like a Stetson basketball player that got hurt, it’d be like, oh, okay, well. Yeah, exactly. When’s the next court? Don’t even talk about it is the thing. Yeah. Like, you know, so I think it’s all overblown. Let the kids do what they want.

It’s fun. Find a way to protect your team. And if you have a problem with somebody storming the court on you, don’t lose the game. My whole thing is. I mean, how long is storming a court or field been around? A few decades, right? Long time. Basketball rules at Kansas? Huh?

Was like storming the court on the basketball rules that you saw in Kansas? I feel like, I don’t know if they’ve ever stormed a court. I don’t think there’s certain teams. Like, I don’t think when all the times there’s no reason to storm the court. Yeah, exactly. Right.

Like, I don’t, I don’t think Kansas has done that. I don’t know if like Alabama would like, so anyway, so the point, the whole point I’m trying to get to is, you know what I’m saying? Like those top teams, like there’s certain, like that upper, upper echelon of teams that

They probably never have. My whole thing is I think, did social media ruin this? Because growing up, seeing this on SportsCenter and before Twitter kind of turned into what it is now, and I’m not talking about X, we never really heard about anything. Yeah.

There might’ve been like dust up or whatever, but what’s really annoying is cause I, you know, I don’t want to just have a chalk answer like everyone else, but yeah, I feel like the passion for college, that’s what makes it really great and unique.

And it’s fun to watch cause you’re not going to do that in the pros. Come on now. But with social media, I think we saw this with Caleb Williams, USC. It’s escaped me who they lost to. But some asshole kid went up to him with the phone and hit him.

So that’s where it gets bad, right? The Filipowski kid from Duke, I don’t know. It kind of looked like he lunged out. Same with Clark. at Iowa, but take what you guys just said with that epic, epic, you know, storm rush with Tennessee and Alabama, they got to have, that’s the NCAA, right?

Like they got to have someone in line to like be ready for that situation. And of course, as the NCAA is, they’re very worthless. And I don’t even know why they exist. They don’t have anything in place. So really this is more on them than I think it is the students themselves.

Well, yeah, it’s not really. Well, some of the students, but I think you’re on to something with the social media. It’s gotten worse. It’s gotten way worse. We never heard about this eight years ago. any student that isn’t good enough to play college sports getting in the face of a student

Athlete that just lost to talk is it’s not about you but that’s just kind of what the gen z generation like this is what they’re about though they’re all about rubbing it in yeah because the thing is is like none of these kids have respect because they’ve

Never been challenged or have had like any type of setback in their life because he’s always been protected by you know their device typing behind their device or you know adults stepping in or whatever so yeah I do think a lot of the the kids are ruining this experience

Because it shouldn’t be about It shouldn’t be about rubbing it in their team’s face. It should be about celebrating your team win. I do think it’s a little bit overblown right now in terms of storming the field. You got Clemson that does it after every win. That’s overplayed.

You beat Bethune-Cookman at home for the FCS game you get to play and you’re storming the field? Yeah. dumbest thing ever I’m sure they’re dialed in the charge to the team right but to me college athletics definitely has to do a better job of protecting the opposing team and being

Able to you know keep the tradition otherwise what’s going to happen is someone’s going to seriously hurt whether it be a student or a student athlete and then they’re gonna they’re gonna ban it everywhere and then you’re never gonna have it again They’re flirting with it.

And it’s unfortunately in this era now, like that’s what’s going to happen. Because I remember in college, like when San Diego State beat Stanford at Qualcomm once upon a time, you know, everyone was so amped. And for people that are like familiar with what Qualcomm, like what it was, that really tall…

Is that the game where the lights went out? Yeah, that was the game the lights went out. It was the year after McCaffrey got drafted. Some guy jumped off that wall where the Chargers used to play, had that big bolt on it. Oh, yeah, the big side. Yeah, that’s insane.

Yeah, some guy was so excited he jumped off and he broke his leg. No one talked about that. No one ever talked about that, you know? But everyone was enjoying the moment, and the players eventually got off. And that’s the problem. I think it’s back to social media.

Because even back then, you just didn’t really go up to the other team. Like, they lost. Like, it’s sportsmanship, right? Like, why would you kick them when they’re down? You just beat them. Like, that’s the ultimate win. And then they had to go and do that. They’re going to ruin it for us.

Like, would you be surprised? Would you take the over-under four and a half years? That means sooner or later that they’re going to ban it forever, where there’ll be serious punishments. I mean, I would take maybe under. I’m taking the under on that.

You got guys like Jay Billis leading the charge right now. I mean, it’s all over. That’s Matt’s boy. We’re going to get to him in a second, but before it was… like people wouldn’t get as disgruntled about it. You’d see the fine and that was it.

But now it’s a lot of people on air and media members and people that cover the sport are like totally against it. And, and the narrative is changing to like, why are we doing this? This is dumb.

So I think the more of that that gets played in there, the more likely it’s going to happen. So I would definitely take the under. But speaking of Jay Billis, Matt Perez wants to unveil a new segment on the show because Jay Billis really pissed him off.

And there’s some context here, and we know Matt is a Washington State Coug, right, through and through, Coug through and through. And the Winsock term came around because of a Coug, because of making fun of Cougs.

So I’m going to let him take the floor and explain Winsock of the Week and then explain to us why Jay Billis is the Winsock of the Week. So the term windsock. I love this term, by the way. I use it all the time.

We first heard it from Washington State legend and San Diego Charger legend, Ryan Leaf. Don’t talk to me, all right? and uh and uh ryan leaf used it last fall in response to lee corso and the college game

Day said as a whole for their stance on the entire pac-2 dilemma in washington state and oregon state and basically he was using the term windsock to say that espn is just taking the stance that’s most popular And what does a windsock do? It blows with the wind, right?

Whichever way the wind’s blowing, you’ve heard that term before, right? Oh, you just take whichever way the wind’s blowing. It’s like being like a fair  weather fan, essentially. So the windsock of the week is essentially a weekly highlight where, you know, we’re

Going to highlight somebody that is being a windsock and taking whichever direction of the wind. This case is going to be Jay Billis for his quote on what he said about court storming and backing up John Schreier and Bill Self and all the Blue Bloods, all the guys that

Quote unquote run college basketball. And he essentially said if they wanted to stop it, they could stop it tomorrow. One time, all you have to do is once again on the court, don’t let them off and give all the college kids citations and arrest them if they want to.

And then court stormings will stop the next day. Right. That’s what Jay said. I don’t know. I mean, I, I mean, I know that Jay’s been out of college, but there’s some truth to that. Giving college kids citations. I think they already do that for some things. Remember Jay Bill is a lawyer.

He is a licensed lawyer. So that’s like him being his windsock lawyer self. Right. But you’re saying you’re going to give kids citations. That doesn’t stop kids from doing anything. Well, I mean, if they started arresting a bunch of people for it, first of all, that would be ridiculous.

I mean, are you going to arrest 12,000 kids at one time? Are there 12,000 citation officers on deck ready for that? That’s such a joke. Well, my question is, let’s say the Padres win a playoff series and 40,000 people start on the field. what do you do?

I don’t think they, that’s what I’m saying. What do you, what do you do? So using that logic, it’s not like they could, I, what Jay Bills is saying is somewhat correct. Like if they all got like in serious trouble for it individually, it would probably limit,

Like people would have second thoughts about, before doing it but the realistic expectations for pulling that off like the execution of that is almost impossible so it’s not like he’s half right like would it discourage people to storm probably but how I don’t know how

You’re going to be able to do that it’s it’s kind of one of those situations like there’s more of us than there are of them there’s nothing you could do about it like are you gonna put a fence around a basketball court And be like, all right, hey, you got to climb

The fence. Yeah, not to sound like Project X or anything, but think of what is the primary demographic of the people storming the court or field? They’re the students, right? And about 90% of them are pretty liquored up and just amped from the wind.

I don’t want to say that there’d be a stampede, but there’s not enough people to enforce those citations. And if you had 2 to 10 to 20 idiots that are like, screw this, just bombard them, that’s where it would get really sketchy. The SEC wouldn’t do that. Are you kidding me?

How would they stop… you know, that Tennessee band, the game there’s, there’s no way in hell basketball. It’s a little more confined obviously. Cause it’s a smaller venue, but still it’s not like that would be, I don’t know. I understand.

It’s like all these media members, like it’s like, tell us how old you are without telling us how old you are. And I do understand like, yes, there is a safety aspect because if there was a significant injury and it’s a matter of time before it happens, you know, it’s going to suck.

But yeah, This has been going on for decades. Like I don’t like I would love for someone to run the report. I’m surprised we haven’t seen it yet with all the analytic nerds out. How many injuries has there actually been? Right. Like how many like of all the upsets?

And there’s only like a handful. Right. Because it only happens what maybe a few times a season multiply and extrapolate that over a few decades. It’s not that much. I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. Well, I’m thinking, like, remember in, like, the 70s?

Guys that ran around the bases with Hank Aaron after he broke their home run record? Yeah. And then the guys with Reggie Jackson at Yankee Stadium? They had some guys, like, get on the field for sure. I mean, it’s happened in professional sports, and it’s not a storm. Exactly.

It’s gone on for over 50 years. That was, like, in the… when like the Padres and Braves got into the brawl, like fans. Yeah, they’re fighting like they got out. Right. For balance of the power. Yes. Balance of the power is a great one. That was a wild event.

But yeah, I think it’s easier for football to kind of keep it safer with the opposing team. Basketball is a lot different. I mean, when we went to the Tennessee game, they were helping people onto the field. They were helping people onto the field to go have a good time and celebrate because

They got Alabama out of there. And there was no real issues, at least that I saw, between the team and the Tennessee fans. So… interesting topic conversation do you have any wind socks of the week there will

Or uh we’re just gonna let jay billis be our guy which is fine that’s totally fine I want to let matt just steal I mean he I don’t think we could pick a better one uh just for this

Moment in time um yeah jay billis I mean that is There’s a lot of thoughts and opinions on Jay Billis. That’s excessive. There’s no way. I understand he has a platform. That’s what’s annoying now. All the media and all the talking heads, they just feel like they have this platform.

Who can outdo you know, each other with the most out like that’s outlandish. Come on like that. There’s no way that would be even feasible. There’s no way. He’s our windsock of the week. Will I expect you to have a windsock of the week next week? I will be, I will be prepared.

Matt just loves blindsiding me with all these segments. So you keep me on, on my toes. It was on there. He had it on the run hours ago. Too bad you were throwing up a Stetson. Yeah. I want to throw in a quick little interjection here. The Cougs finally take the lead.

We got a seven, seven ball game in Fort worth in the top of the tent. And so just another Tuesday for the frogs. It’s the Washington state world series. Sorry. We’ll see how it goes. Dukes have been on a tear against top five programs. Tuesday night.

TCU is worried about Arizona tomorrow and then SC and Arizona State and then playing the entire Pac-12 in baseball this week after they swept UCLA. They got bigger fish to fry there, Perez. Speaking of baseball, good transition. That was good. Not the first rodeo. Oh, it’s your fifth. Padres baseball.

It’s my fifth time. Padres baseball has started. Spring training has started for everybody now in baseball. And we were talking off air on some other things, but the reality of the situation is with each coming day, it just seems like this is the Padres roster that they’re going to go with.

And on my show on Sunday, I mentioned… my colleague sam levitt who put out the lineup for saturday’s game saying this could be the opening day lineup and to which I said I’m not going to I’m not throwing sammy under

The bus here because there might be some truth to this but I’m going to tell you right now if the padres opening day lineup is what they rolled out on saturday this team is in a world of hurt Better be beer fest every night at the ballpark. That lineup, my lord.

The top six are fine. Your top five are solid. The Padres have five solid players at the top of their order. I think Luis Camposano is going to be good. He was batting sixth. I think that’s fine as well. But they had on Saturday afternoon against the Brewers, in which they lost 11-7.

I thought it really matters. But that Padres lineup here, you ready for it? They had Fernando, they had Jake Cronenworth, then they had Xander Bogarts, Manny Machado, Hassan Kim, Luis Camposano. Not bad. Top six. It’s fine. Jackson Merrill, Eggie Rosario, Jose Azekar.

Are those bottom three guys worse than what they had last year with David Dahl and Adam Engel and… God, who else? I can’t even like, oh, they had one though. Like one like was in there, but you can’t tell me that that is a legit Padres lineup.

We were like, I’m afraid of these guys. No. No, we don’t even have to pretend. No, that’ll be exposed. And it’s a great feel good story. And, you know, we talked before and I’m very, you know, flexible on how we could go about this because it’s very different and creating opinions.

But no, top six is solid. That’s fine. It’s interchangeable. We can move it around. I guess my biggest question is. I don’t know where the reinforcements are coming from. And to the credence that you put into Sam or Sammy’s tweet, that that potentially could be the lineup.

I would be concerned if you’re a Padres fan, right? Like that, that is interesting. Yeah, opening day will be fun, but the second day and beyond and the rest of the season, that’s a liability. I mean, are we being too harsh? I don’t think that’s harsh criticism at all.

I’m going to go through it right now. I went through it on my show on Sunday. Let’s start putting together this 26-man roster for a second. Let’s put together the puzzle. Here’s your 40-man. The Padres have 37 players on their 40-man roster. They have three open spots.

They currently are holding 13 position players on their 40-man. relatively standard for the most part your outfield right now is pro far and left which is not going to be the everyday starter they’ve already said that but as of right now I mean

He’s out there you’re if you’re just going off 40 man players which you need to have on your major league roster you have four outfielders you have profar azekar tatis and tukapita marcano You have six infielders. You have Machado, Kim, Bogarts, Cronenworth, Matthew Batten, and Eggie Rosario. And you have three catchers.

You have Luis Camposano, you have Kyle Higashioka, and you have Brett Sullivan. Out of all those 13 players that I mentioned, Profar is going to be on the team. Tatis is going to be on the team. Machado, Kim, Bogarts, Cronenworth, Camposano, and Higashioka. Those are basically eight guys.

And you need, what, like five more? right yeah you need five more guys to make the team right now it’s azucar marcano rosario batten and sullivan I doubt they carry three catchers and if you look at their non-roster

Invites I mean you got jackson merrill you got cal mitchell tesor ornelas you got matt’s cousin robert perez jr not his cousin you have jacob marcy you have oscar mercado hit two homers today you know marterella graham paulie mason mccoy mandu wade castanian and

Then you have other backstops in ploweki solace and siegel I mean Where is your team? Where is your depth? You put that together, and as much as you look at the four guys you have in the outfield,

With Azekar and Marcano, how much of an upgrade are the guys that are in camp that are not on the 40-man going to be over a guy like Jose Azekar? Not much. Half of the list that you just rattled off and, you know, huge shout out to Ethan Salas too. He’s a stud.

He’s going to be a stud. Years, years away, years away. Years away. None, none. I’ll just say, I mean, there’s I think every every eyebrow should be raised right now because we’re not factoring in and  we need to be realistic. There are going to be injuries this season, particularly in the outfield.

And every team goes through it and to not have solidified depth. I can’t even point to where you would go, right? Like, are we just, are they going to throw darts and just see what sticks? And like, Hey, I like this one because I feel like spring training stats can also be fickle.

And this is no dig in particular to Jackson Merrill as well, who we can still kind of put this out. Cause I feel like everyone has their own take on him. I don’t know what they’re going to do out there. And it’s only Fernando’s second season starting in the health field.

So is this the weakest part of the team on the roster? The outfield? I don’t know. I would say so. Either that or the starting pitching, probably, probably outfield then starting pitching. I would say that. I mean, it’s not the bullpen. That’s your, that’s your, that’s your number one spot.

Oh yeah, for sure. Or your infield. Nah. Your bullpen’s pretty low. Defensively, yeah. But if you’re factoring in behind… I mean, you don’t have to prove and close. Yeah, but you got four dudes that can close. I mean, they got eight guys that are plus arms. Anybody theoretically can close.

It’s the situations that you’re in and being able to do it. I mean, they don’t have a Josh Hader back there, but they got… You got Bob Suarez. That’s all that matters. I’m going to stop in a second, but continue.

I mean, you got to find a way to replace the 35 home runs and the 110 RBIs that were driven in from your left fielder last year who’s no longer on the team. Which, by the way… And they haven’t done that. I mean, Profar ain’t going to hit 35 pumps.

But before you even get to that, by the way, I think a lot of people were… especially padres fans didn’t want soda to be traded but understood that they could use that money elsewhere right like right well if they’re going to pay him 30 mil I would rather have

30 million spread amongst other spots because we can’t like we can’t afford to have one guy making that much money we have this many roster holes but they traded him and then they did not invest in that money and so now it’s like what did we trade him for like we

Could have kept him You didn’t get you got good pitchers, but you didn’t get blow away guys where you’re in a spot going. I’m so glad we got Michael King and Johnny Brito and Randy Vasquez and Drew Thorpe. I mean, those are good, solid guys.

I think Michael King has the ability to be a really good starting pitcher, maybe a two or one like in the next couple of years. But. this one soto drill looks worse and worse by the day if you’re not reinvesting that

Money into your roster would you say that king’s probably what three four he’s a three right now yeah he’s got the stuff in the in the mental makeup and everything to be I mean the yankees thought he could be a stud and I agree yeah and I think he I think he’s going

To be a stud but I think you hit on it I think he’s maybe a year or two away all right who knows maybe he has you know a dominant year right and is able to really step it up does

That account for 35 home runs that as per no it does not it does not absolutely not and I mean unless you hope jay croneworth turns the clock back to 2021, 2022, but he’s not a power guy. I’m telling you right now, they are putting, I have no, cause see, here’s the thing.

Like we’re all in, we’re probably all in agreement on the Jackson Merrill situation, right? Like he’s, we all think he’s probably going to be really good. He’s got the, he’s got the measurables. I love his confidence, but I think all of us agree that he’s probably not ready at age

20 to be an everyday starting outfielder, especially when he’s a shortstop by trade. I’m not worried about his defense. I’m more worried about whether or not he can hit a major league fastball. And then when he can hit the major league fastball, can he hit the major league curve

And the major league slider and then the changeup and like all the other pitches that he’s going to get after he learns how to hit the major league fastball and teams figure out how to attack Jackson Merrill.

I think he’s going to be a great player, but this is where fans and Padres fans have just been so about Jackson Merrill. He’s the second coming of Fernando Tatis Jr., which he’s not. I’m sorry. And so it’s going to sound like we’re haters, but the reality is he’s just not ready yet.

Let’s put it in perspective. I was talking about this with you guys before we started. If Jackson Merrill makes the opening day roster for the Padres, which he’s projecting to do so in the media or is talking all about this, If he makes the opening day roster and he’s

Your starting center fielder, he would have made it to the big leagues in less games, played in AA, then Fernando, then Manny Machado, then Bryce Harper, and Mike Trout, and Adrian Beltre, and so many different potential Hall of Famers, current Hall of Famers, and superstars in Major League Baseball.

They said, the Padres did, and I’m going to ask you guys this question. You can answer it for me. Let’s define what the Padres said for a second. They said, we will have Jackson Merrill on our team if he earns that spot. What do we mean by earning that spot?

Do we mean he is better than… He is a starting left fielder. He’s one of those guys that’s going to be a starting left fielder in Major League Baseball, and all these teams would love to have him, and he’s earned his way because he outdid starting outfielders in Major League Baseball.

Or are we saying he earns it because he does better than his competition, which is Jose Azekar and Tukapita Marcano and Oscar Mercado and fellow young product in Jacob Marcy, who won the Arizona Fall League MVP in a year.

The Arizona Fall League, by the way, had the worst pitching they’ve seen in years. Is Jackson Merrill earning his spot because he’s a major league starting outfielder for the Padres? Or is he earning his spot because he just has to do better than Jose Azucar? The latter.

And he’s probably more athletic than everybody that he’s trying to compete against. He’s better than his competition. Right. But what I’m saying is, is that worth hampering another year of development to help him to make him the best for the Padres? No, and here’s the thing that’s…

Kind of fascinating when you look at, when you kind of look back to other instances where the Padres have had the top 10 prospect and they rushed him to the major league. CJ Abrams, a hundred percent. CJ Abrams had 41 more games played in the minor leagues and he had better offensive

Numbers and the Padres put him in the, in the big league roster of no true place. play. Which I said at the time was a mistake. You can’t have him on the bench. At least with Merrill, it sounds like he’s going to be a starter, but still.

The guy’s played 200 minor league games and he’s hitting 270 against minor league pitching. He’s played in 40 AA games. That’s insanity. He’s going to be a good player. I don’t think there’s any question about that. But the Padres have shown that they’re… What’s the word I’m looking for?

The way that they bring players up. They’re notorious for rushing players, and the guys that cover the minor leagues know that, and they say that all the time. It doesn’t always work. CJ Abrams, Luis Urias, they rushed Luis Camposano. Yeah. He was up in the COVID year. Yeah, they needed him.

Yeah, and they needed him, and it’s 2024, and it’s still like, all right, hey, maybe he’ll be catching 70-30. I mean, Cronenworth wasn’t one of their products, but he only played because Eric Hosmer had the shits for a week. Yeah, that was it.

I mean, he was sick and Jake Cronenworth filled in and hit like a couple of home runs like we can’t get rid of this guy. Right. And then he got a big contract and he’s like he never aside from the COVID year and the

Second half of 2022 or like the small part where he had. And Impact, he never showed he deserved to be at the major league level. And the team continues to do the same thing of rushing these guys because they need them.

And the other thing, too, is they sell these players as the savior of the franchise. I mean, how many times have  we heard the conversation  that we’re hearing about Jackson Merrill for Padres prospects? I remember they thought Austin Hedges was going to be the greatest catcher ever.

I remember when they said, like, Corey Spangenberg was going to be legit. I was about to say him. Hunter Renfro was supposed to be, like, awesome. Manny Margot. They brought up Anthony Rizzo and gave him a very small look at the pros, and they kind of rushed him up, too.

And then they traded his ass within, like, you know, how many games did he play? 20 games of the Padres? 25 games. I was nice. I mean, he didn’t get a lot, right? So here’s, here’s where, here’s, here’s where the Padres make the mistakes. So they did the same thing with CJ.

They ended up trading him. They got one Soto back. You had to give up something good to get something good in return. But, If CJ was super legit, they would probably would’ve held onto him and found a different way to get one Soto.

So in theory, they did quote unquote, give up on CJ. It was a gave up on Anthony Rizzo. And my question is with all this hype that this player is getting and having to go out there on a major, because all of his success right now is from spring training, which we

All know is not real. Guys are working on stuff. They’re trying to get ready to go. If Jackson Merrill gets off to a rough start, are the Padres fans going to turn on him like they’ve turned on other guys?

And then are the Padres going to catastrophically trade him because of the small sample size and then he turns into a perennial all-star for somebody else? I mean, we’ve seen this movie. How many times now? How many examples did we just list off? I’m wishing the best for him.

Look, I love the confidence. It’s just baseball, man. Everyone’s got good pitches. Everyone knows how to work you, pitch you different days, but it’s just baseball at the end of the day. I love it. Okay. You know what? Have that mindset at the plate.

It’s great. he’s, he played 46 games at, at double a and there’s just, there comes you need experience. I’ve just, I’ve seen this now and we’re about to witness it again for the umpteen time with another Padres prospect playing a different position that he was drafted and, and trained

His entire life to play. And I don’t want to be negative, but just based off of experience and numbers and analytics, because that’s all the game is now, they’re going to attack him at the plate. And because of the lack of experience, I would probably bet he’s not going to have a lot

Of success. And that’s not his fault. This is what they’re going to do. And that’s why I feel like he would be better suited. But because of the Padres… I don’t want to say made a short-sighted trade because we don’t really know with the prospects

And players we got back from Soto going to New York. But in the moment right now, they’re scrambling and they’re not spending any money on any free agents off the street. So I don’t know, like where are we just really, really all in on the, on the, they’re really

Pushing the young guys for sure. They’re a hundred percent pushing the young guys, probably a little bit more than they need to. I will say, you know, so this is what they’re going to do with Jackson.

Like even if Jacob Marcy or grand poly make the team, if they, if they go with all three of those guys, I mean, you’re really reaching, I think. But they’re going to attack. They’re going to attack Merrill with the fastball. They’re going to see if he can hit the fastball.

And then once he hits the fastball, they’re going to start throwing some off speed and see if he can hit the off speed. I mean, this is how they’re going to go through the projections. And teams with good analytics and scouting are going to figure him out.

When Jackson Merrill goes through that and then makes the adjustment is when you’re going to see whether or not Jackson Merrill can play at the major league level. That’s what the minor leagues are for, for him to do that in the minor leagues.

Go through bad times, figure it out, flip it, make the adjustment. That’s part of the process of playing in the minor leagues is the mental side of it as well. I think you’re really hampering this kid from being a potential affiliate I mean you want

To be young and it could two years and hang on your prospects that’s great but don’t rush them to the major leagues when you don’t need to you could have filled with some placeholders I think the potters are a year away from being the 2023 diamondbacks with the young guys

They’re just they’re just not there yet and they want to get to that spot and save money and you know a lot of it has to go back to to the contracts I think we talk about their pitching staff next week what do you think yeah we talk about their pitching staff next

Week we got to get into our next thing We are ranking. Best place to get a beer? I think I need a beer after that. Are you excited for the season? How hyped are you, Will? Yes, I am excited for the season.

I’m ready to be pissed off probably the second day because I feel confident. The Padres always come out. Actually, I don’t know because they’re playing in Korea. I don’t know the time difference. I’m going to have to be pissed off at 3 in the morning.

I’ve done I did that last weekend so it’s okay so I’ll be just fine doing the exact same thing yeah honestly no I mean I yeah that’d be great but I just it’s setting up to be like 2019 where like they get off to a good start and then they’re just it’s because

Of the lack of depth too and that’s the problem like this is an indictment on the front office and and I don’t know I don’t know what’s going on I have no clue um but that’s who, who else would you blame? Like there’s, there, there has been no, yeah, honestly. Yeah.

We need to move on to the next thing. Yeah. I need a beer. Give me a beer, please. All right. Well, let’s, let’s rank the best five places to get a beer. Where does it hit the most? Um, on our, this week, top five rankings. Let’s, let’s talk about it for a second.

Um, so this was proposed to us in the group texts. We saw we were inspired by something else. Um, on social media. Wanted to give our own top five ranking for this. And I get the premise now. It’s kind of like different locations to drink a beer, like where it hits the best.

Just the best place to drink a beer. Right. You know, they got, they got, at a hotel bar, maybe at the airport, you know, happy hour beer, you know, at the beach golf course. I mean, those are some of the, some of the, the ones that are the best seems the crisp,

The most crisp beer ever. Is it fine if you get super specific? It touches your lips. You want to be like, like a specific place? Well, yeah. Like a specific bar. No, but like specific situations. I think that’s fine.

If you say you say airport beer, but maybe, you know, you like to have your beer at 6 a.m. Maybe you’re one of those. Oh, like a morning airport beer. Right. OK, you’re not saying. Is there a difference between this? I do. I do. I’m going to put that out there. I do.

But God loves not like locations. You know, God loves getting a guy loves getting a cocktail at the Taco Bell cantina. guys dialed in um who went first you went first last week didn’t you did will go first

On the other one I did go you went first I went first on when I drafted the best uh mascots by the way just throwing it out there that I had a major comeback and I had the best

List you’re just saying your first round pick was pumping you up on instagram I mean The guy, he’s a verified mascot. And Matt was just berating him comment after comment. So I think I got a good reaction. I’m just saying. He’s a company man, Will. He’s trying to get engaged.

Will had the first draft pick. But what did we rank the first week? We ranked the songs. I think I went first for that one, too. You did. All right, it’s Will’s turn to go first. I got the number one pick? Oh, hell yeah. It’s not a draft.

You’re just ranking the five best places to drink a beer. I mean, obviously, man, you know, we already talked about it, but I want to say the airport. I’m taking the airport. It’s an easy one. It’s the best. I did it just a couple days ago. You do know we’re not drafting, right?

Huh? You do know we’re not drafting. That’s your number one in the rankings? Yeah, airport. All right. Yeah, it’s the best. Look, you’re excited to go on a trip. Money really doesn’t matter. You’re going to spend $22 on a Coors Light and probably still tip as well. It’s amazing.

Give me airport number one. All right. What’s your number two? Um… Okay, so we’re not like popcorning back and forth. I just said, we’re not drafting. I said, give me your top five. And you’re like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, I got airport. I got airport. I think I got so excited.

I got so excited. He’s so about the airport beer that- He can’t get it out of his head. That’s right, dude. Keeps replaying last weekend. You know what? Will and I have had an airport beer at an airport Chili’s on a Sunday. Yes, there you go. It’s delicious.

It’s a good ball game. Airport Chili’s hits. It’s more than regular chilies. Go ahead, Will. Okay. I’m going to do… I want to go with tailgate number two. Tailgate is a good one. That’s a good one. It’s funny. I think when you’re with your friends, other fans, the energy is always good.

There’s always hope, whether you’re the favorite or not. I think it’s always solid. next one I’m gonna go the golf course there’s nothing that after you know hitting a nice drive or a nice shot you get to crack it open and that’s that it’s just refreshing to be

Outside so I’ll take the golf course with my third we’re doing five right um man I would say I’m gonna take the hot tub oh you’re hot tub beer guy I think it’s solid. There’s not a lot of bad places to consume. Yeah, I know.

That should have been the worst place to consume up here. I’ll take that fourth and then my fifth one. I’m going to take the beach. Beach beer is good. It’s always good. You got to be safe. You got to pour it in the red solo cup.

Cause you don’t want to get a ticket. Some people we know, I’m sure that’s happened in the past, but I’ve been like kicking back in a chair, just a, you know, nice waves out cosmic rays and a cold brew. It always slaps. All right.

We’ll go to Matt second, but I do want to say Doug Brady was a quarterback coach in town. Tune into us at the airport right now and gave us his top five. His are more specific locations. That’s good. So he went top of the Hyatt. Have you been the top of the Hyatt?

No. It’s pretty nice. Top of the Hyatt’s pretty nice. You can go up there. There’s no reservation or anything. You can go to the bar and have a cocktail. It’s pretty cool to be at the top of the Hyatt. He goes, Dini’s by the sea. I’ve never heard of that place.

The airport where he’s at right now is his third. Aero Club, number four. Aero Club down by the airport. And then number five, Coronado Club at Petco Park. rock close pretty nice you got the nice view of the bay and everything so good on doug

If you guys want to chime in that are that are watching do it on twitter do it on facebook I mean on everywhere that you can find our social media spots um and including instagram on my instagram page where mrs musgrove is tuned in so hi to mrs musgrove All right.

Cafe Adesso is a great place to have coffee. I need to try it. I still haven’t tried it yet. It was good. Do you want to expand your menu to social sparklers? Mrs. Musgrove did a great thing when Coach and I were doing it at the Grossmont Center. She brought us coffee.

She had some made at Cafe Adesso, brought it out to us. Such a nice gesture, and I appreciate it every day. Yes. Go ahead, Matt. All right. Number one, morning airport beer. Nothing is more sicko. So he’s going specific with the morning. Yes.

There’s nothing more sicko than going to the airport at 7 a.m. I’m not getting a beer at 7 a.m. And then going to grab a beer or two. or for an hour for your flight. I mean, it, well, and it’s for all the reasons that you said, or it’s, Hey, it doesn’t matter.

Time doesn’t exist. You’re on vacation. That’s the official kickoff. People have anxiety and they need to, you know, see, that reminds me. That reminds me when Will and I flew out to Texas and I had free drink coupons and Will was like, another one, another one.

The flight attendant was getting mad at Will for all the beer. She was not getting mad. She was not getting mad. You were getting mad at you. She was getting mad at you because you weren’t using them. No, no. Will was just like, I’ll tell you another.

He was just super loud about it. Another Diet Miller. He was just shaking his can. i was getting that was probably covid too so that’s when they actually gave good drinks out they don’t get they don’t have the the menu they have now is shit it’s terrible like

They have nothing on there I was like no I’m not on his way to tc ohio state at jerry’s world it’s a good time all right so matt went specific with 6 a.m airport beer or morning airport beer whatever Yeah, might as well start the day on a good note.

All right, number two. If your flight’s at like 6 a.m., you’ll get one at like 6 a.m. Yeah, why do you have a 6 a.m. flight? Oh, so you got to hang around. Yeah. That’s why Perez books his flights at 10 so we can get a nice 10 before he goes.

And you know I get there two hours early anyway. You get there eight days before the flight. Second best beer. It’s okay. Thanks, Will. This is going to be controversial, but stadium beer. uh you know there’s there’s very few things that match to feel in if having your favorite

Beer in your hand in your seat right as first pitches are we doing are we doing stadium draft or do you like the cans yeah it doesn’t matter for me whichever is the most convenient those 62 beers are the best man Really get your bang for your buck when you’re paying.

Yeah, you get a 7-Eleven across the street that you’re spending $68 on. There is something about being at a ballpark. It is. That’s a great pick. That’s your third one? That’s my second one. But good segue into my third one, pregame beer.

I’m a big fan of somewhere downtown early, wherever your spot is. or whatever. So an actual pre of a sporting event here, not like just pregame. Yes. Pregame of a sporting event beer. Um, we went to Texas live. Yes. Right. I mean, Hey, it’s like, Hey, you know what? We left. We’re here.

We’re here to have a good day. Um, let’s set the vibes high let’s go get a dove and bring me a beer and let’s get this show on the road game beers are great yeah I do like pregame beers all right number four

This is similar I like a pool beer a little bit more than a hot tub beer do you do that at your house or like when you’re on vacation both I think I’ve ever had a pool have I had a beer in my own pool I think I have.

You’re just jumping in your pool. You’re hanging out with whoever. Go throw me a beer. They throw you a Michelob Ultra from 15 feet. Does that include the hot tub beer? Is a pool beer better than a hot tub beer? I believe a pool beer is more superior.

You can enjoy it more comfortably. I’d agree with that. It’s more refreshing. Our Circa experience. Stadium swim. Pool beer. We should have brought Will with us to Vegas. um number five hotel beer I like a hotel I’m a big fan of a hotel and I i don’t discriminate

Here it could either be in the lobby at the hotel bar it’s a good one but also if you bring a couple upstairs and it’s you got time to kill in between events and you want to

Have a mcleod balcher or two in the comfort of your own room hotel is pretty solid all right so you got morning airport beer and then you went with the stadium beer yep and then what was your third was the pre-game beer yes and then you did pool and then you

Did hotel it’s pretty good I like that we all went one through five all right I’m gonna go I’m gonna go one through five my favorite beer what do I always want to get a beer I like the stadium beer a lot. I do like that. Hotel bar hits very much.

I’m going to go… You know what? I find myself… having a beer the most often like golfing golf course beer it’s probably my number one I think that hits every time then I’m gonna go with I’m gonna go with the

Airport airport beer is always great when you get into the airport and get there with enough time you don’t have to stress and you can have a nice nice ted for your flight kind of get relaxed before you know it’s kind of the start of vacation or you know when you’re

Flying home it’s the conclusion of it you’re still on vacation at the airport you can date another another beer on the way out so that’s my number two stadium beer is definitely my number three I like that one a lot I do like the pregame beer solid though stadium beer

Is good um I’m gonna go happy hour four As my, as my number four, that’s good. The little like five o’clock beers. Good, good, good way. How did we miss happy hour? Oh, that’s a great one. I’m going to go for, I can’t believe I missed that. I haven’t done hotel.

I’m going to go hotel bar five. There’s something about getting a bar in the… There’s something about getting a beer in the lobby of a hotel when you’re on vacation. It’s pretty nice. So I’m going to go golf course. And then I went with stadium, if I’m not mistaken.

And then I went with… What was my third? I already forgot. There you go. What was my third one? had happy hour four no I had happy hour four and I had um hotel five I forgot my third one already of course um right down no I’m just I’m just riffing

Off the top of my head yeah exactly nobody’s paying attention obviously so thank you um Was it the pregame? No, it wasn’t the pregame beer. Hotel. Golf. Golf was one. Stadium was two. Happy Hour was four. What am I missing? Hotel. I had that four. Or I had that five. Hotel was five.

Airport beer. Airport beer. It was golf course, stadium, airport, happy hour, hotel. I think we’re going to need a lot of beers this season for the Padres. I have faith. Honorable. Honorable. Yeah. Beer Fest. Oh. I mean, it kind of comes with the name, so it doesn’t count. Beer Fest, Ted.

You have a specific Beer Fest you like the most? Because they have like Cerveza Fest and stuff. Well, just the typical Beer Fest works for me. But Cerveza Fest isn’t bad. You get the Bad Bunny going. You get the Pacifico’s. I like it better when they have a good two hours.

It’s better when they get like the craft stuff. You got the Alpine Duet out there. I mean, that’s what I would prefer. You get the green flash in the corner or the 394 on the hill. There’s something about drinking a beer at Bubz in the plastic glass cup. That’s hits. Yeah.

I’m telling you. What about sports pregame beer? It’s good stuff. What about a lunch beer? Like a work lunch beer? Like you’re out to lunch. I’m never out to lunch during work because I’m working. Yeah, but you can leave for, I guess, your job. You can’t do that.

Some listeners out there listening, you can go out for lunch and it’s like enjoying a lunch beer with coworkers or a work function. A work function beer? A work beer. Work beer. Work function beer. Not working beer, but work beer. Work function beer? Yeah, you can’t drink on the clog.

So you’re obviously at lunch or some sort of banquet or event. I’m trying to think of another… I can’t believe I forgot Happy Hour. I’m kind of upset about that. No, I like mine. I actually like mine a lot. We’re going to go with that then.

The other thing that we wanted to talk about… Again, we’re going a little bit over. Before we draft the mascots, there is something trending on social media right now of… what was it like the, like post the picture of, of like the game that you’re proud to say

You attended or something like that. Right. What’s the official phrase? The quote, I was there. I was there. I was there. I like that. I think that’s kind of cool. So when I was in college, I got to work for the, uh, football team, obviously.

And that was when they had some pretty important moments, um, you know, when I was out there. So there’s a couple of games that I have like in mind that I’m thinking of, but what is the most memorable sports moment that you attended?

I got like a lot now I mean that tennessee alabama game too is pretty that’s pretty up there but like um tennessee’s my brother’s school it’s not necessarily my school um I could think of like tcu texas tech that I uh trolled texas tech with today again when

They uh on a on a post but when aaron green caught the ball of josh dachshund’s hands in a shootout with patrick mahomes was pretty cool. Being at the Peach Bowl where they absolutely dismantled Ole Miss is another one.

I’m just throwing out ideas of some games that I’ve been at as I think out loud. What is it like for you? What games have you been at with your teams where you’re just like, I was there? It’s tougher with your team’s aspect because there’s been events where…

Let’s go with just events in general. To me, it’s more special if it’s one of your teams, but Yeah, I mean, off the top, Island Fieldhouse was freaking awesome. I mean, that’s, like, you know, pretty recent. I remember… Huh? Was the game itself iconic? I guess, no. See, this is harder.

I remember one. Like, my dad took me to the San Diego Chargers Denver game Sunday night the year that he won. Tomlinson won MVP. This is in Colorado. They were on Sunday night. They got flexed and they were down 24 to seven and they came back and won that game.

Like Tomlinson, I think I  had like four touchdowns. Um, he had like a long receiving one, uh, Nate Cading, like pooch to kick that. Like, I think I’m pretty sure Darren Williams, RIP like botched and was like down at the one yard line. So that was cool.

Um, God, I’m trying to think, uh, I feel like I haven’t been to a lot. Oh, I know. Last spring, the Nuggets-Suns playoff game where Nicole Jokic showed Matt Ishbia, the Sun donor. And then I think Jokic had like 55 points. Durant and Booker combined for like 75. That was an insane game.

Came down to the wire. I don’t like, I don’t know. There’s like, here’s, here’s another one too. That’s interesting. Do you remember when Kendris Morales broke his leg on the grand slam? Oh yeah. I was at that game. I was at that game. That’s the story. Is that when like he jumped out?

Yeah. He has a walk-off grand slam for the angels and he jumps on home plate and he shatters his leg. that was so great because he’d never seen that yeah my sister was dancing at showstoppers which is at disneyland every year a dance competition and my dad took me and my brother

To the angels game on the saturday it was like a saturday day game or something like that to like break up the monotony of you know hanging out with the mouse and also like watching dancers the whole day so we went to the angels game and we were late like it

Was one of those deals where my dad pulled a um Perez he pulled a Dennis Martin we’re like we stood up and like at the railing for like the final pitch and as soon as they hit

The home run we started walking out right kind of one of those deals traffic so we pulled a Dennis Martin and we’re leaving the we’re leaving the ball and we’re like walking on the concourse and like the celebration like stopped like jazz music stops and you’re like

We’re like what’s going on like around home plate like that’s super weird We get back to the dance competition. And one of the dads was like, did you guys see what happened in the angels game? And we’re like, yeah. We were there, like, walk off Grand Slam.

He’s like, yeah, but, like, he broke his leg. Like, what? He did what? He’s like, yeah, he jumped on the plate, and he broke his leg. This is before smartphones and, like, how, like, instantaneously you could have a replay and, like, news breakdown of it. I didn’t know what happened.

And then he was like, dude, where you at? Did you see what happened in the Angels game? And Kendris Morales broke his leg. I mean, that’s a wild ball, like a random ball game to be at, you know? And you miss, like, the most memorable part.

I mean, we saw the ball land over the fence, and then we saw a sad group of angels standing around on a plate. That was basically what I remember to this day. Right. So that, I mean, that’s not one I would probably pick, but another example. What do you got, Butch?

I got to Alabama, Tennessee. That was pretty. I mean, that’s pretty. I told you we were going and I said, you should meet us. You didn’t say shit. You didn’t invite me after you were already there. A lot of these. And you’re just like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then, so third saturday in october is number one and then number two this one’s I guess more personal to me um ranking these no I’m just saying like these are the two that I think of um You know what? Why don’t we draft them? No, I’m not drafting these.

The second one is Oregon and Washington state 2018. We hosted college game day. That’s cool, dude. And that was, I mean, you can look it up. College game day while you’re in college. College game day while you’re in college. First time, probably last time that they were in Pullman.

I mean, there was a state of emergency issued for like the city or that, you know, 48 hours that they were there or whatever. And all the Coug flags and, The entire day, winning that game against Oregon, against

Justin Herbert, that’s when I knew he was a fraud, when he went down 27-0 to Gardner Minshew. That’s why this guy doesn’t like him. And we did storm the field that day because we were 25. And there was no injuries. There was no injuries.

A lot of couches got hurt and burned and ripped apart that night, but that’s all right. those are the two games that I’ll look back on whatever 40 50 years from now and be like

Yeah you know I’m I’m glad I was there will um I mean at at the game like matt you were at that game that’s like yeah I was there yeah I feel like a loser now um San Diego State beating Stanford, that was cool because I was still in school.

Got to storm the field. No one got hurt except for the guy that jumped off of a 15-foot wall. Yeah, he definitely got hurt, for sure. Yeah. Man, this is tough. I can’t even… God, I feel like a loser.

I feel like I haven’t… had those moments I feel like I always witnessed it on tv uh you gotta pick a game man you gotta pick a game were you at any san diego state games from 2019 to 2020 what about aztec basketball yeah like that malachi 3 against san jose

Covering some of those games with me you’re not there for that one yeah but I was working it so I didn’t like enjoy you were there you were there yeah but that doesn’t okay yeah

Sure that was a okay like that was a cool game but like it didn’t match up to what you guys were doing guy’s forgetting all the games he’s attended in his life. No, because like, yes, they were, those were awesome moments, but like, as it measures

Up to your guys, it’s like, no, it doesn’t measure up. Like, I think that, I mean, the Tennessee Alabama game was pretty cool. The experience is pretty, it’s kind of pretty top notch, um, to watch, to be at the game

That Tennessee won for the first time in 20 years with Morgan Wallen was there, you know, Peyton Manning was there after stories. Yeah, that was nuts too. But, um, I don’t know. Like that Texas tech game to me is, is still, it’s such an iconic game for TCU where they,

They roll into Lubbock number three in the country and, and went on this BS tip drill in the end zone on a, on a phantom foot in the back of the end zone to beat Patrick Mahomes and Texas tech and eliminate their, you know, their, their, their spoiler of, of us is so

Good. But the, like the peach bowl was awesome. Like watching TCU in a new year’s six bowl was, absolutely dismantle an SEC team that beat Bama that year was really fun too. So probably those two really stick out to me in terms of like, yeah, I was at that game for sure.

I think some of the Padre games were kind of cool. I mean, it would have been nice. The thing that we gave up, Perez and I, for Tennessee-Alabama was being able to watch the Padres play the Dodgers at home in the playoff series. Because you… You and I would have been at Austin.

Yeah, that would have been sweet. And to see Petco Park with more Padres fans than Dodgers fans for the first time ever would have been awesome too. We went up to some of the playoff games in LA, but I’d probably go with those two TCU games.

We’re going to go three rounds of a draft here because we’re running out of time and we’re talking mascots again. We had so much fun talking mascots the last time. We went over this at the pre-show meeting. Come on. This should not be catching you by surprise. Frogs win, by the way.

Five team in the country. Who’s surprised? It’s just another Tuesday night. Just another Tuesday night for the Frogs. Hey, they went to extra innings against at school. That’s going to be the WCC next year. You know what? Hang the banner in Pullman. We went to extra innings with TCU on a Tuesday.

And they’ll probably lose to Arizona tomorrow. Whatever. I mean, the fact that we’re going to extra innings. Beating Arizona isn’t for every school. That’s right. Only USD can do that in baseball. Drafting mascots. Again, this is a guy who loves drafting mascots. For the kid that was terrified of mascots, loves his mascots.

I’m on the same. I’m on the same as you. I love the mascots. We’re going to go pro mascots this time. We’re going to go three rounds. Is it my turn to do the first pick? Yeah, you got the first pick. Okay, pro mascots. I’m taking the Philly Fanatic. No windsock comment.

No, I mean, you got to pay homage, right? We’ll give you the fanatic. I like the fanatic. Will, you’re up. Will’s got second pick. Will. Can I be third? Will has traded his draft pick. To Butch T. Cougar. Yep. All right. I’m going to go with UP.

UP is a Montreal Canadiens mascot, and he used to be the Expos mascot. He’s known for being thrown out of a ball game by Tommy Lasorda because he took a nap on top of the dugout. That’s amazing. You can look it up. He comes from the same family of the Fanatic. Wait, Yuppie?

Yuppie. The Canadiens mascot. Yeah, but he was the Expos guy. Oh, and then Montreal stole the Canadiens? Yeah, so Yuppie. First round pick. I got another one that I totally don’t know why I didn’t pick a number one, but hopefully

He comes back to me on the board because he’s sliding right now, and I’m looking at him on the draft board. Go ahead, Will. God, he’s… Mascots always kill me. I hate having… Mr. Red, I guess, is my… Mr. Red or Mr. Red Legs? There’s two of them. Oh, Jesus.

Mr. Red Legs for the Cincinnati Reds. You want the mustache, right? You want to go with the mustache? Yeah. The mustache guy. Okay, Mr. Red Legs. That’s money. I’ll take that guy. And then Snake Draft. Jeez. Give me… Give me Rocky, the Denver Nuggets mascot. Is he still a mascot?

I don’t even know if he’s still a mascot. Yeah, he is probably. Matt has like an almanac of all the fucking mascots. He knows every mascot. If you hang out with me, Perez. I can’t do that. Just the mascots.

And our buddy Mike, who’s too afraid to be on the podcast, you’d be talking mascots all the time. All right, my turn. Number two, Dinger. We’re going to keep it in Denver, and we’re going to keep it in Colorado. Give me Dinger. That’s a good one. God damn it.

That’s a really good one. I like Dinger. That’s a solid one. I scouted out Coors Field for like three innings to find Dinger, and he was on top of the dugout, and he was making his way up the aisle. So do you just go up and take pictures of them?

Do you have a whole album with the mascots? He might be the only one I have a picture of, and I don’t know. Yeah, but I was going to… Dinger! Dinger! Yeah, right. So I got two picks. You have two picks. Jazz Bear. Jazz Bear’s money, dude. I love Jazz Bear.

Jazz Bear is the greatest. He’s like… He can’t be the greatest. He already picked. That’s a steal in the draft because he’s really the greatest mascot ever. The guy flips like motorcycles and does all these extreme things. He was on Nitro Circus just doing… insane stunts for no reason.

Nobody is more badass than Jazz Bear. Jazz Bear is the guy. That’s my second round pick. My third round pick… is the Pittsburgh Penguins mascot. Iceberg. Iceberg the Penguin is a show. That guy is great. That’s my third round. Best is like that. Like this is SportsCenter commercial where 

Like the devil is trying  to turn up the thermostat. Iceberg comes in and turns it down because he’s a penguin. All right. Those are my three mascots so far. All right. I’m a little torn here on my last pick because I don’t want to leave any of these people

Out. I’m in a good spot. I’m going to go Lucille. No, Lucille’s money. I’m going to keep it in the NL West. That’s a good mascot. Lucille. Great name, Lucille. It could be a male name or a female name. Great build on Lucille.

I think it’s very important when you look at mascots, it’s how, you know, how they’re shaped. Um, like whiskers and like the glasses and like the backwards lid with the backwards lid is money seeing him lift up his jersey you know behind the dish when the Padres are

Up there I like Lucille kind of looks like Whoopi Goldberg if Whoopi was a mascot that’s just the vibes I get my pick yep I’ll stay home. I’ll take the swinging fryer. He’s in third for me. What a windsock. Will is the windsock of the week. Why? What’s wrong with the swinging fryer?

Guys kissing up to his local mascot. I just don’t like I don’t look like I’m looking at these other ones. I just and I just hate mascots. They’re just so stupid. I hate mascots. Wow. Wow. Wow. Who is that? The Carolina Panthers guy. Were you not picking up? Okay, you know what?

I would bet that sometime in the future, if we’re ever at a bar together and there’s a trivia and somehow mascots come up, we’re just going to let Matt just cook. Nobody’s kidding us. I would just let Matt just completely take over and win us a free $20 tab of booze and

It would be the best thing. He’s going to use that skill to the max. Too bad Mike’s not on here. He’s already he heard me talking smack about him and he logged off because he’s soft. Doesn’t want to be on the doesn’t want to be on the pod. All right.

So I want to read you. I just that was a terrible track. I hate you know what? It’s OK because I want to extend the draft. We can extend the draft to five. You want to do some undrafted free agents? Let’s go ahead. Yeah, sure. I want the Toronto Raptor. Oh, good one.

Wait, hold on. He already picked his two, right? Yeah, but he’s snaking. He had the two in a row. Who’s the middle guy? He took the Friar, then he took the Raptor, and now it’s me. Okay, that’s fine. This guy’s great. Blue, the Colts mascot.

He loves to shake his belly underneath the goal post. He’s got the thing that comes out of his nose. Blue’s a solid mascot. I’m going to go with the Pirate Parrot. I like the Pirate Parrot. Pirate Parrot’s pretty money. I like the Pirate Parrot. Pittsburgh knows what they’re doing.

Their mascots are pretty nice. No, I got another one. I don’t really like… I had to look up top mascots just to refresh my memory on some of these mascots. They really love Jackson DeVille. He does some crazy shit. You’re talking about Jazz Bear? Jackson DeVille’s up there.

That guy’s jumping off of the 300 level. I mean, he is, but he’s not… I don’t know. He’s seen a lot of Jaguars football, so I would too, but… I don’t think he’s that cool. I know you hate, you hate your mascot in the national football league.

Yeah, I would, I would sacrifice rowdy guy hates rowdy. Talk about a guy. The guy loves mascots, hates the Cowboys mascot, hates them. Um, I’m going to go with, uh, so many mascots on here. It’s ridiculous. Do we like any Major League Baseball mascots?

I’d rather punch Mr. Met in the face than put him on my team. What about Mrs. Met? I’m indifferent to Mrs. Met. I don’t really care either way. Is Mr. Met and Mrs. Met blowing on trumpets?

I like Sir Purr just because that video, but I’m going to go, I’m going to, I’m going to keep it local. I’m going to be a wind sock. I’m going to take wild wing and I’m done. Wild wings. When you got lit on fire. Wow. That was, that was a good moment.

Um, nobody likes Bernie Brewer. Surprise. Perez didn’t take Bernie Brewer. That’s like his second team. I mean, uh, sorry. Uh, we’ll, we’ll second team is the brew crew. You’re like Bernie, Bernie Brewer. No, he just didn’t get it done for me. I guess my last one. Oh, I didn’t go yet. Oh.

Hopefully he doesn’t take Slapshot. He probably is. Who’s Slapshot? The Washington Capitals’ Eagle. Patriotic. Love your country. Nice. I don’t think Perez is going to take that. No, I wasn’t. I’m going to take Serper. Why not? I think he’s funny. Who’s that? It’s Sir Purr. You call him that? Is that the mascot?

Do you remember when the Panthers, was it last year, when they had the 3D Panther running across the stadium? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was gnarly. Whoever was on Shrooms, on the graphics team that made that, that was pretty badass. All right, so you took Sir Purr. Yeah, I think it’s Slapshot. Sir Purr.

I’m gonna go with all right so my team was the philly fanatic jazz bear money parrot pirate uh our pirate pirate parrot whatever his name is um I had wild wing and then what was the other one I had why did I forget my other one again what was the other dude I

Had iceberg oh yeah I had iceberg as my as my third pick so it was it was really I had Philly Fanatic, Jazz Bear, Iceberg, Pirate Parrot, and my last pick was Wild Wing. All right. My five, Yuppie, Dinger, Lucille. I like Lucille. Blue, and Serper. Serper. I think you like saying Serper.

I do. That video is funny. Have you seen that video, Will? Yes. You call him that? Well, it was also good this year. The Panthers, they’re playing the Falcons. Both of them were dogshit teams. It was raining. There was probably like  6,000 people in attendance.

Sir Purr had like a raincoat on underneath the old goal post. It’s like the worst game of all time. Desmond Ritter and Bryce Young. Ugh. Will hates it. All right, my team. Mr. Red Legs for the Cincinnati Reds. Rocky the Mountain Lion, the Denver Nuggets mascot.

Pay homage to our beloved Padres with the swinging fryer. The Raptor for the Toronto Raptors. And Slapshot for the Washington Capitals. And that’s our draft. And that’s our show. a little bit longer than we wanted it to be. We talked on a lot of different things.

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