Big D Energy | Tuesday, January 16th, 2024

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Daily dose of Big D energy well you want energy we got energy for you today on this Tuesday I’m Matt Shepard filling in for Neil r d Big D Man winning play off addition with the w first time ever Big D in it with a win

Spny let’s go I cannot believe how long it has been I mean we we can use numbers all we want you put it in perspective better than anybody has you you weren’t even in the NHL the last time the Lions won a playoff game that is true I was

Drafted to the Detroit Red Wings uh in 1992 the summer played in ader rondak remember watching the Lions win that playoff game uh and then I didn’t make my debut till the October of 93 ad randek more more people real remember Adar randek as a bat than they do that

It was a Red Wings affiliate yeah but great great spot shout out to Dango and poopies yeah all right those are the spots down there the breakfast spot and the bar life spot spy you would have done damage at both I like it greasy spoon and poopies in the morning and

Dangles till 4:00 a.m. baby what about Gentry would he have done the same Gentry yeah be uh be at low key though right rad lowkey Gentry would be there yeah but he’d pop in and out he’s sort of an enigma yeah he’s got that ninja dust on him that’s fair we uh yesterday

Lindsy Hunter and I talked obviously a full two hours on this he has been here for a good 30 years so he’s really a detroiter you are too what’s it mean to you well I you know I always consider it different and when you hear me talk whether Michigan or Detroit I’m their

Favorite stepson I don’t care what it is because I grew up across the border my my house give or take 10 minutes for the border to Joe leis Arena was 40 minutes there’s people in Flint and in in the suburbs and stuff like this that my

House was closer so I grew up a Die Hard everybody who knows me knows that my all I ever wanted to be was Lance Parish until I realized that you know 14 years old I couldn’t hit a curveball but I could punch people in the face real good

So we made the right choice stuff but shf but uh um it it means everything like it means to everybody else you know when we talk about Wing wield Nation or we talk about you know lions or whatever it you know it doesn’t matter where you’re from right you come here the best

Part and I think Lindsay can attest to and this goes to not only me that grew up close but any of the guys that adhere themselves to this community look at our Redwing organization look at all the guys that are still in the organization that live locally right everybody sort

Of comes back and we all have that Pride we’re the biggest the other what is cool about Detroit is that the sports fans the celebrities uh the musicians and that we all cheer for each other and we’re lucky enough to become friends you know uh for for different things whether it’s the

Jeff Daniels and Dave Kier or the M&M’s and the trick tricks and kid rocks and Bob seagar and you know stuff like that I think that it it’s something good and the resilience like look at right now shef I mean I don’t know about you spending and I cross the road together I

Almost wanted to like huddle up with them because even cross and Woodward like it’s a a polar vortex out there but we persevere everybody perseveres and the fact that you know what it ain’t that cold living off a freaking playoff Victory from our football team yeah

Right we’re all in the same play like it doesn’t matter how old you are and it was it’s really cool because you and I have experienced success in the city right reporting on like our our wings Ron the Piston run you know the Tigers who came up short but we’ve had

Excitement but we’ve never known it for the most part right with with the Lions so for me the other day you know the the live stream was hopping the postgame show and stuff but to be around all these kids you know I call them kids cuz

They’re you know in their 20s and stuff like that and to see how much it means to them too but and they haven’t really experienced right A lot of them were too young in the 90s but now they’re not now they’ve experienced life so we’re all in

You know one of the one of the one of the things that I wanted to touch on is if you saw my favorite thing to watch is the postgame locker room after the win Dan Campbell addressing and the way that he gave two game balls out one to Brad

Holmes and one to Jared Goff and and just the way he said you know what like I I I’m so happy for Jared Goff but the emotion that Brad Holmes showed too in the elevator and stuff like that I thought that was pretty special but yeah so you bring up Jared gof it’s

Interesting I just came from the gym I was talking with somebody and we were talking about quarterbacks I don’t think there’s any position I would you could almost make the argument I don’t think there’s any profession of other than quarterback that creates more debate and more emotion in our life maybe politics maybe

Religion but I think overall I mean you want to talk you want to create a conversation and a good debate right away you start bringing up quarterbacks in the NFL and I’m glad you brought up Jared gof you know before we dive back into that you know what it’s like to

Captivate a town you were part of uh whether it got old for you or not the grind line was synonymous with Detroit the going to work guys were synonymous with Detroit that 1968 Tigers team synonymous with Detroit this football team plays a lot like your line did like the like the

Pistons did in going to work not to take anything away from any of the other World Championships that they they own when you would you what would you tell Lions players about them affecting Detroit sports fans psyches and emotions and passion see here’s the one thing Chef is that and you know this

Too because you’ve covered Sports enough is that when we talk about the culture and the Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes and to that to the extension Rod Wood and Sheila their self-awareness is is to who they are and what they want in that locker room right whether it’s coaching management

Players they’re all on the same page right I I always go back to Dan Campbell saying three years ago the fact that I realize that I have to prepare this team and Brad Holmes as if every starter of mine goes down and what am I going to do

To your point about the grit is the new Grind line yeah right the grit the grit Grit is the 20 30 year later the grind line because it’s the same thing and as a fan base we buy into it why because right now today hopefully people are

Listening to this or wh wherever they get their sports information um but it’s something they’re out there fighting the cold you know half the people listening are bundled up doing something outside this is back to work they grit their grind line that’s just to to me the grit cuz

And here’s the one thing when the grind line stepped on the ice when the going to work Pistons stepped on the court we represented we took pride you know this to a fact right didn’t matter how I felt or whatever it was about that guy had to

Punch the clock you know for the for the midnight ship that was going to sacrifice because we had to play out west and because the top guys couldn’t get it done until overtime five overtimes we’d eventually get it done but people sacrifice all their sleep there’s a commitment to it

Right fortunately with this Lions it’s it’s a little bit better although some people probably lost some sleep but gladly would but to me it’s the identity culture is the identity they know who they are they’re not we’re not getting sold to bill of goods of of here we are

This is it you know look at here no we are really this they are they are what they preach so that’s your definition of culture the identity right the the identity of do you when you look in the mirror of your team right are you do you see what

You you’re showing the fans or are you trying to smoke in mirrors and show them something different what did we just see what are the conversation you know to to two of the teams that were supposed to buy for the for the championship this year and the Packers and the Cowboys or

Not the pack the Cowboys the Eagles stuff like this there’s something culturally wrong with the right there’s something that’s not there when you look at defit in Dallas I would say definitely in Dallas uh I I I don’t know about Philadelphia I’m not going to go

So far to say that about the Eagles because they were in the Super Bowl a year ago they did start 10 and one this year everybody thought Jaylen Herz was the MVP and everybody said they had the best offensive line in all of football and then suddenly their offensive line

Caved Herz started to making turnovers Nick serani became suddenly really stupid and Philadelphia is out earlier than anybody expected so I don’t know about but I say Dallas for sure when you get B let’s get Matt Patricia as our DC yeah I I call and play like that is so karma and and

Here’s the other one thing too and I saw Matt Neville pass the the chat thread um Woodward sports.com join where he said all you jayen all you Jaylen Carter nut Huggers now jayen Carter is a prime example of about you might have the talent but you’re not part of the

Culture but it’s a really hold on and and and I think that’s a really smart point cuz I thought about that too when Jaylen Carter when I was watching the game last night however and I don’t know Jaylen Carter I didn’t even want Jaylen Carter all all cards on the table

However you’re going to blame him for their loss number one number two their culture I’m not blaming him I’m stating the fact that he’s not a brad Holmes Dan Campbell Detroit Lion locker room culture guy forget the fact that he is Uber talented and I’m not blaming

Anything on them I’m saying thatly you for all you guys that said we didn’t make the right pick and trading and getting jir Gibbs and Jack Campbell and the way that it played out eat a bow eat a bow because you’re wrong because you know what in a results driven League

These are the results that you’ve been given so the fact that I’m sitting up here telling you guys yeah he’s Uber talented but something wasn’t right for moving forward in here right they knew it they knew it wasn’t the right fit for what you were talking about with your

Culture I think it’s a great point and I I want I’d like to know know where all the Talking Heads Are to say today you know what maybe I was wrong you don’t see that you never see that how many people love jir Gibbs I do okay how many

People loved him when they were drafted him nobody no I’m sorry nobody said that’s my guy these guys do their work they know what the hell they’re doing they deserve a little bit of trust in what we have with when we say when we watch them make their picks and acquire

Certain Talent and and here’s to the defense see like Neil and I will sit up here and be Brad Holmes slaps and and the fact of what like I I understand why they didn’t want guys some guys like jir Gibbs you had to show me okay what were

You talking about it took a little bit of time but you know the fact when they needed him the most this season when David Montgomery went down when did he have his Breakout game now you look at these two what I love is you see these

Two on camera on the bench we’re the best we’re the best run and duo in the league not even question I think David Montgomery was talking to his M on TV say mama you know me and this guy CU they figured it out the identity that’s the identity that two-headed monster

Thunder and lightning and we saw that what did we also see what what what I saw was both sides of the ball under self-awareness and not being the smartest guy in the room we ran the ball we used our offense we protected jerro goof God forbid I said I said to spny

During the live stream Goff is just like picking him apart early and whatever you look at his totals when he wasn’t pressured or when he got to stand up he was 22 for 22 or whatever and I said to spend go that guy right there is that a

$50 million guy and he said no and then I said is he a $505 million guy if it doesn’t cost you cuz I get why Spenny and the rest of the people don’t want go to be a $50 million guy because you don’t want to lose anybody else but if I

Guaranteed that Brad Holmes could do what other teams do and keep everybody and it ended up where Jared Goff made 50 million you wouldn’t have a problem with it correct I I I think with you know we can get into that a little bit later on

I think that all depends if he’s not a $50 million guy who is who do you want to play instead I mean this this is the debate I had with somebody at the gym earlier today we’ll dive into that here in a minute but what you were saying

About Gibbs and Montgomery the the big knockout that people were giving Brad Holmes when he drafted jir Gibbs was we already got a running back and I always laugh at that because what you said earlier you talked about you got to go into your season like every guy’s going

To get hurt and you got to be prepared for guys in case they do get hurt as much as we like David Montgomery is he a guy who’s going to play every down of every game well he can now because you have jir Gibbs and you have a one-two

Punch in that regard I think it’s been a there certain times Spenny how many times do we say right how many times do we say oh man like where’s there there’s certain packages where it’s the Gibbs package and you know what where do they use jir Gibbs a lot the most on the

Outsides in the in the swing pass game but it gives you know different looks most teams their running back has to do all that we have two guys to yeah I I think the thing I like most about this team is they’re you know what I I don’t

Give a crap what other people say we’re going to go about this we built it the way we thought we should build it we play the way we think we should play and players play for one another I think it’s a beautiful concept and culture to your word that they have built down

There what do I I what do I always say shop the the the key to it to a team and and to winning in my opinion from my experience is when the guy next to you is more important to you than you are to yourself beautiful and and that’s what

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24829 8242 to make your dreams come true now back to shef and dmac what do you think about the matchup which one Tampa Tampa wins last night over Philly did it surprise you number one and if so in what way no because the question mark and I think

The B the big thing was AJ Brown being out you know Jaylen Herz having that bum finger stuff and and just the utter um downfall that Philly was in you would the the fact that they didn’t play a home game the fact they had to go to

Tampa and and you know what they let Baker sort of be Baker last night especially early and then you know the the big thing is that Tampa defense is legit you know one of we faced them already this year down there so you have some tape on them and stuff like that

But uh yeah no I like the matchup okay right I immediately here’s my immediate thoughts all right Godwin or Evans can go for 200 yards but not both of them are not combined like one of one of these receivers is going to go off Chef yeah right and and it’s the but don’t

Break I’m fine with it yeah like CD lamb did for Dallas CD lamb did did Justin Jefferson always does like that’s if you understand that that’s your Bend and you look at the way that even Tampa last night how they worked the middle of the field with tight ends and and all the

Different stuff so again it’s it’s that preparation did I did I think you know at the time the defense got the stops or held them to three when they needed to obviously so I think it’s a good matchup I probably want you know because of the

The talent level of the fact that we beat him earlier um I I would like Tampa to play I it the struggles in Philly weren’t bothering me but the fact that having Philly in a dome with a healthy AJ Brown and stuff I’d rather play play

Tampa isn’t it amazing um that Sports in sports things can change so quickly with Philadelphia 10 and one okay they had stubbed their toe at the Jets after starting 5-0 they’re 10- one going to San Francisco uh you know Nick serani was considered you know uh the second coming

Of Bill bich Jaylen Herz was the MVP the offensive line was the best offensive line in in all of football that’s what we heard um it’s the team to beat how you going to go through Philly they’re on a mission and suddenly they lose to Frisco they they get blown out by Frisco

They get blown out by the Cowboys they lose a stunner in Seattle okay where Drew lock I believe started they barely get by the Giants then they fall to the Cardinals and the Giants again and everything is in an uproar and rightfully so you know it’s it’s amazing

That a team can go to a Super Bowl and people feel like the momentum’s going to carry over and it sure looked like the momentum was carrying over 10 and one start best in football and then the wheels fall off sometimes it shows you you just

Don’t know about a team well you know here’s the one thing too when you look at Philly and you look at the Panic right at 10 and two 10 and three losing they ch CH coaches they Chang DCS you know all this stuff to me it’s self

Awareness that just tells me inside the organization at the top more fragile than what we were seeing right cuz I relate back to do you remember when what happened when this team a few years ago was one and six who came out and and said nope everything’s cool this is part

Of the part of the plan right Sheila yeah Sheila when did she get her flowers I said that yesterday dude I said that like what two months ago yeah I mean they show Martha on the big screen God bless you Martha she deserves a lot Sheila come out there and they should

Did you see the replay and I love this right yeah and that’s oh yeah spanny that’s on spanny shortless Sheila um but the fact is when gof was coming out for warm-ups and he alluded this to his interview with Dan Miller that he couldn’t hear the fans but they were

Yelling Jered go all the way way throughout till he hit the field and stuff like that Sheila needs to come out before the game next game because what did she say she said no we’re one and six but this is it’s part of the process

So to me when you look at and yes cheep you can’t you don’t take anything away from going to the Super Bowl finals but but what does it tell me is that things were a little bit more on Shaky Ground organizationally at the top the coaches to the ownership right like not as

Solidified because because you’re going to take a beating right you’re going to you’re supposed to go to San Fran maybe that’s your wakeup caller you’re Dallas or whatever but then you’re supposed to snap out of it with that experience that’s a good perspective I I never

Looked at it like that I I did say this yesterday and Spencer I think agreed with me there was a time remember when in was it was September of a couple years ago when Calvin Johnson was being introduced right and she came out and people booed her

Lustly and that’s okay well no that’s that’s okay but now those same people have to understand she’s the big reason why this team is successful because she believed she believed in the people she had she believed in Brad Holmes she believed in Dan Campbell there was a

Time where we all I’m not saying we overreacted I just say I’m just saying there was a time where everybody wanted Aaron Glenn fired there was a time where people said the Dan Campbell grit comments kneecaps comments is an eye roll it’s a collective eye roll because they didn’t believe well you subance

Behind it you had the same thing that we’ gone through as lions fans for 30 years and it’s the hope and the smoking mirrors and you telling me this so we were supposed to be skeptical you always are it’s sort of like you know it’s it’s sort of um

Relationships right where as maybe you were treated some way in one relationship and now you’re sort of treated better and you wonder why that is and like it it goes too the biggest thing is self-awareness and they’re on point and that’s all we can ask as fans so now for

Anybody that I don’t blame anybody that had to wait till now show me it’s different right if everybody was hanging on to the same old lines until they won a playoff game now you could throw it out even the stest critic I get it yeah

I I’m the same way I the word I use is trust all the time they did people didn’t trust them look at let’s look at the Red Wings for a second everybody trusts Steve Eisman they do why because he did it in Tampa and because he could

Have been the governor of this state when he played I mean it’s as simple as that nobody in the Lions organization had ever created the trust with the fans until now yeah but both got because you had two brand new guys and Brad Holmes doing a job for the first time as GM

Proving himself and Dan cble coming out and and you can understand as sort of aggressive or or self-aware they’re not everything that they told us is exactly where where we are right now of why they did things and why it would pay off in the long run and and so it’s enjoy this

Is part this this week right here as we get prepared and and you get to the second round you’ve done everything we call it the the Boer path is in full effect right now but here’s the one thing this Detroit Lions team they expect to be here they expect they’re

Getting comfortable MH in these positions in these situations especially controlling it at home in front of their fans yeah I I said this the other day I I don’t know why anybody should be surprised considering ing they had the second most wins in the NFL I think sometimes we forget about that we’re

Like oh we’re a three seed and we’re really deserve the two we were so focused on what we should have had we forget what they’ve already done San Francisco was is the one seed they’re really effing good but you know what people in San Francisco people in Dallas

Until they lost people in Philadelphia people in Tampa the national people you know what they’re saying that Lions team is really effing good man they really are well they come to play and it goes back to the what we started the show with is is is that grit and the identity

Of this team right to a man you know it’s playing hard is of their coach that no more poignant comment than his first one about we’re going to take kneecaps yeah what are they doing right now yeah they’re taking kneecaps and they’re not done folks what do you like about the

The matchup with Tampa we’re getting a lot of people in the CH in the chat bring on the buck good match up it’s a team that blitzes I think you going to let Baker Mayfield end your season I don’t think so that’s bottom bottom line I don’t care what it

Is Baker Mayfield’s got bad ribs he’s got a bad wheel whatever like this he needs to be put on his ass Philly made it too easy on him last night and and stuff like this I that’s my are you the Detroit Alliance and your fans going to allow Baker

Mayfield to take you out that’s that’s the only question and we all know the answer is absolutely not absolutely not yeah th this team the Lions are favored and rightfully so um personally I don’t think it’s close I think Detroit will blow them out I really do I I think sometimes you just

Have to look at who’s the better team and how they’re playing and I think if that’s what you do if you look at this objectively I’m try I try to be objective in everything sometimes I let my heart get in the way I’ll admit it I

Did it in ’95 I’ve told you that story um but objectively if you look at it you say you know what who’s better and it’s not that Detroit beat him 20 to6 earlier this year it’s just who’s the better football team there’s no doubt who the better football team is not based on

Wins not based on head-to-head based on overall performance who’s the better football team the Detroit Lions do do the do the old school match match up position to position mhm right and and you’re going to lean that you favor yeah right you’re you’re going to lean that

You favor so you have to like this match up a lot of times man it’s the path right and if you would have said that hey you win this game you play Tamp next round is that not the easiest path that you could have had so to speak right

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Championship teams was not just a I mean sometimes we overuse the word Aura but the confidence that you had like every single day whether I was at practice or after a game I noticed you guys felt it was undaunting you there there’s no way that other team’s going to beat us every

Once in a while it’s going to happen you’re not going to go 82-0 in hockey you’re not going 17-0 in football football unless you’re the Dolphins in 72 but my point is there is a there is a feeling that I think even permeates outside a locker room when you watch an

Elite team perform how do you notice any of that characteristic with the Lions today it’s moments it’s getting through different things ours was like when you say that I ask you is that it was this uh pre March 26 or post I would say I say even pre to be

Honest pre cuz it was still learning to us March 2697 the the fight night at the Joe the lemie thing winning that game t-shirt and the whole Redwing like Wing wield Nation not just in the team but especially in the team it’s that it’s going to be all right that deep breath

Don’t know what it means it’s going to be all right that was like for us the galvanizing of we weren’t too European we weren’t too right like that was the one where we had each other’s backs and it was so you know what I’m saying that galvanizes

Your team too now in football it’s different ways I think the biggest galvanization is is set in history like for bringing something that hasn’t been done in Generations in in decades right so this team this Li team like you said can separate themselves from all the rest in the past by just

Winning this first game now it’s now it’s are are you set up was it because to me winning that first playoff game and hosting it that wasn’t the Super Bowl to them or obviously not to the fans but sometimes when you’re trying to overachieve you see that that teams get complacent we’re not

Complacent there’s a path here the Boer path so to speak but the fact is they know right now it’s legitimate right in front of them so you got to take this like for us back the day we own the the Chicagos and the St louises and the Phoenix arizonas and so

So even to that point Dallas and stuff like this right Colorado was the only one that we knew was going to be a heavyweight tilt back and forth but everybody Al you had that confidence because you had that sort of History so so to us it’s sort of like th those

Moments but it’s learned and for us we learned by what losing you know you you me you you mentioned during the break you said dude do athletes really like say baker Mayfield’s not going to cost you know me this and I’m like absolutely Arthur zerb and O2 wasn’t and then you

Said well he did 93 and I said yeah we were young and we weren’t going to let it happen again so he got us with San Jose and didn’t get us again but to that point yes yes and usually it’s cuz I’ll break it down and I don’t know in

Football if it goes like this but but I think because of matchups right I I’d be matched up and it’d usually be like the number three or four defenseman guy right that was my guy right was it him or was it me right I was going to take

His will out of this series hitting him every time I got in his face stuff like that now everybody else was going to get the equal opportunity but I had to focus on that guy so again game plan preparation you mentioned uh you know um questions in our coaching does anybody

Have questions in this coaching staff and I see it in the chat thread too people I don’t care how many yards we give up you know we’re B but don’t break I don’t you know it does doesn’t matter who goes off that’s sort of the thing

But when we need a stop what happens we hold them to three or we find a way to get a stop anybody talk about the biggest play right of the game was the hutch holding call yeah cuz it pulled him out of field goal range and

Then they were able to stop him yeah for on third down but but so what I what Spy what did I say the other day how many times did I say it big players make big plays in big moments who who made your biggest plays and big moments Hutch right then you had

CJ Gardner Johnson and cam Sutton all over that ball which if you want to go es and flows and I know back getting upset about the off sides late in the first half that we got called a false start where everybody but we don’t worry

About the refs if you want to go did you see a little Jersey tug at the end it evened out right and then who finishes it off Chef 4minute drill right I know in football cuz I hear that teams practice a four-minute drill and a two-minute drill you saw us execute that

Four-minute drill by our two who’d you put the balls in the hands of Jar go to alar ra St brown right yep those are statements those are give me the that’s that’s f off give me that pck look I love that I I really do I would just say

I think there’s a lot of people going why the hell are you throwing the football to am on St Brown when you could basically run it take a knee and run it out and I think it’s basically Dan Campbell saying you know what screw

This this is who we are I am not going to deter from what we are what we do when we do it and how we do it and that’s something that I love about him too it wasn’t long ago where we were getting complaints about Dan Campbell going for certain situations running

Fake punts and doing things that fans didn’t agree with because why because the Lions lost what we have to understand and what we have to agree to is that this is who they are this is their identity this is what’s made them successful and at times it’s also a wart

Every team in every sport at every level goes through it absolutely and look at break down the game what was one of the biggest most crucial plays fourth down goal and you go trips right and who do you go to the guy we didn’t know was

Going to play or not or whatever you know to to me that that’s huge too you see Sam Le Porter and obviously being in there and stuff like that um didn’t tear the roof off you know had a touchdown catch had a couple possessions but his blocking right where you see that it’s

It’s so the fact is everybody’s doing what they need to do to get on the field they’re not going to be deterred by the way that they do it right Dan Campbell isn’t what Spenny what do we sit here during the second half of the year and

Go wow the four downs aren’t executing like they were last year earlier in the season but it’s not going to change from the way that he coaches and at the it’s all about execution and what do we do when we needed it we executed that’s

What you got to continue to do yeah the the discussion about Golf and the discussion about this team and where it’s at that okay well you know we’ve talked about the matchup in Tampa it’s a team that blitzes 40% of the time I believe among the most in all the NFL I

Don’t see that being an issue I mean this is where Jared goff’s experience and this is where uh his knowledge and his football IQ really come into because he and Frank rag now are calling everything at that line of scrimmage and an effort to protect him so we I’m I’m

Not worried about that at all I I do worry about turnovers I’m not afraid to say that I like when he was shoveling that one away the other day against the Rams it it it was concerning I it’s so important to treasure the football it’s it’s really the same in every sport

Right you want to treasure the puck and hockey you want to treasure it in basketball I get all that um but I think if you looked at the entire playoffs and this goes back to you know me saying look they’ve won 12 games we got to

Remember I I would I would venture to guess most people outside of Detroit are looking look at going I would guess Baltimore San Francisco Detroit that’s how good this team is that’s how fortunate we are right now does that mean they’re going to win on Sunday against Tampa no but it does tell

You what people think of what your football team is capable of right now it’s impressive no it really is and and how can you not be in the those conversations as far as as I would think that you’re the odds on favor you you’re the favorite at home right and and stuff

Like this but task at hand but the fact is they’re back to work I think that I think that you bring up that the fact that Frank ragn now and Jared Goff and the fact that you know Todd bus you said was Tampa Tampa team some of the best

Linebackers you know uh Winfield junr in the secondaries you know all pro and stuff like this they got players but the fact is is that you know we got both our running backs are physical and they can pick up blocks our tight ends are some of the best blockers in the league and

Stuff like that so and our wide receivers well oh yeah so so to me this sets up like look at early in that game right early in this this game who was the key early in the game setting it up Josh Reynolds yeah right Josh Reynolds was and then

They worked onar ra like Amar ra just just so quietly gets 80 100 yards I know right you know what I’m saying that’s not going to change right cuz they’re going to put the linebacker on them and what did you say earlier you said look Mike Evans is going to get his

Right people in Tampa right now what are they saying like I’m not saying Brown’s probably going to get his okay they’ve got that double-headed monster as a as a running back in Montgomery and Gibbs there is one guy who deser deserves a lot of credit and I don’t know if he’s

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Merch you can get out in the Detroit sports game now back to Matt Shepard and Darren mccardy big the energy here on a Tuesday Gentry did you uh did you tell everybody out there what you thought did you enjoy the game the other night what game the lion game yeah what game what

Game well I know you always go to me about Red Wing so I didn’t know if you were talking about you enjoyed that too though you enjoyed that against against Toronto Toronto led up to the Lions game but yeah no that Lions game was insane the emotions were running but man it

Felt good to finally uh you know reach that step win that playoff game and now everything’s in front of them you know you got to not an easy match up but a favorable match up in Tampa Bay and then who knows from there so here’s a question for all you guys

Who’s the guy who’s changed your mind the most as you watched this team progress which player or coach changed your mind about them the most jar go Jared gol spending spending 100 million per from being a golf truther to say to speak to what are you now you’re still a

Truther but I mean I’m I like I put it tweet out there I I I have my beliefs about him I have my beliefs about that that ticket price at the end of the contract but I’ll never say a bad thing about him for the rest of my life he

Want us a division he want us a playoff game only Lions quarterback in my life who’s done that I’ll never say anything bad about him is is Shep aware of your tattoo B to whatever is he aware of the ink that will go on h a Super Bowl no if

If jar gof wins a Super Bowl with the l Lions I have to get uh a Dan Campbell face tattoo I’m going to get that like Dan Campbell’s face on my on the back of my calf I have to get grit across my stomach in like the Tupac script and 16

Behind my ear is is this a bet with with the self imposed wow so this has been going this is I hope you get it last year I had it last year if they won the division last year I was going to do it but since they lost the division I said

We’ll carry it over if they win the Super Bowl most people spent staking in stages you’re doing all three up one that’s uh that’s interesting and that shows you the passion that you have for the lons all right Gentry how about you no I’m kind of in lock stop with Spenny it’s

Got to be Jared gol gol okay D make you know what I think to me um it’s the linebacking core it’s it’s the questions on you know whether it’s the analon the Barnes the Campbell like as a unit right the Ben but don’t break and I

Know we given it up but as far as you know like the run defense I mean you had Kell Williams come in here and you you held him and shut him down I don’t expect it to be any different so to me I think it was it was the linebackers and

The way that they’ve you know improved the play from last year it just it it just seems that that’s a big big reason you know for a lot of the run run defense and different stops and stuff like that so I they definitely got better now again it’s been but don’t

Break but I think there’s self-awareness of who they are so so in saying that you know I give Alex anzalone ton of credit yeah I think for me it’s along those lines it’s um it’s Aaron Glenn for me I think most people wanted him fired after

Last year a lot of fans did and earlier in the year there’s talk about it and earlier in the year and I think you’ve got to give him a massive amount of credit for the way that defense reshaped itself in the second half against the Rams Matthew Stafford

Was kicking their ass he was n was kicking their ass they were doing what they wanted they were moving the ball up and down the field they did something to hold them a in the Red Zone you know three times and B to two field goals in

The second half mhm I think he deserves a massive amount of credit he did it remember this the Dallas Cowboys and I know they’re out of the playoffs but let’s face it they were the two seed for a reason all right in other words they won their division they did

Something that was good enough all right whether you believed in Dak Prescott whether you believed in Mike McCarthy or not they they did something that that is warranted you know some credit the Dallas Cowboys averaged 40 points per game at home this year the Lions held him to half

That Aaron Glenn is the guy who implements the defense now the defensive players deserve a massive amount of credit too to dmax point because why well because they’re carrying it out and I get why you guys are saying Jared G I don’t think there’s a wrong answer here

I’m just I’m just giving you my take Aaron Glenn has now thrust himself I don’t think it’ll happen but into head coaching conversations that means he’s done something pretty well they they’ve made the right adjustments when they’ve had to yeah and I think he deserves a

Lot of tip of you know what it goes back to and somebody brought it up uh in the chat thread um players voted remember when the player poll came out and Aaron Glenn was number one for defensive coordinator amongst the players and we were like wait what yeah yeah there’s

There’s something there to it but also too you know what one time along this and it goes back to the culture and it goes back to the attitude or whatever it was always something that felt like if it wasn’t going to work it wasn’t through lack of effort that Dan Campbell

And and Aaron Glenn and all the defensive guys would stay and spend time on like they’ve grinding this thing out I bet you they have more sleepovers at at Ford Field than anything else espec right they’re they’re going to work their way out of it and I think it goes

Back to that grit we’re talking about right throughout the coaches are are the ones that you know implement this and and the hard work so when you see your guy grinding and to me it tells me what like guys love Aaron Glenn I know right they love Aaron Glenn and it it just

Shows you um by everything else and and when you have that belief in somebody like they they wield their way to get it done because they know the alternative again it goes back to when when your coach is more important to you than you are to yourself it’s the same thing let

Me ask you this why does that matter why does it matter if players love their coach and the reason I bring that up is because how many times have we heard players in the past support their coach and it didn’t matter Dak Prescott with Mike McCarthy right no okay just the

Other day it happened now it’s it’s probably going to be very beneficial for the Raiders like Max Crosby has come out and said and Devonte Adams has come out and said and supported Antonio Pierce that hasn’t prevented Antonio Pierce from for other jobs number one and

Number two it has not pushed the needle for the Raiders to actually do the hiring of Antonio use the Raiders as as a blueprint to hiring people and what they do so [ __ ] up Chef they’re no no at the top with Mark Davis or whatever it doesn’t matter it’s so aloof so you

Can’t compare the fact that when everybody’s on the same page because everybody in that organization’s not on the same page so so I guess I’m using that as an example of players supporting their coach that’s all but that in that situation that doesn’t matter because the owner’s aloof to hearing what his

Player says or gives a [ __ ] about what his players some other owners or whatever love the process to to whatever else to me it be the the GF like that’s that’s the fact that Antonio Pierce right where I said this when they started winning right Antonio Pierce

Would you not say has sort of is the makeup of a Dan Campbell head coach right going to former player going to be in there and stuff like that right seems like it if with what we saw with him taking over that organization how do you ever let a guy

Go interview somewhere else cuz pretty much you’re telling me well we’re not sure and you know him and and ha it’s consistent with the Raiders organization they did it to the last intern who I’m not saying should have got the job but the fact is that you’re not listening

You’re aloof that’s the difference between a winning organization a and a losing organization and I could say we’re a winning organization now right because it’s different in that way so so in that aspect Chef absolutely zero but I’ll tell you in the Detroit you know with with the way that they’re built and

Everybody on the same page it does matter one of the biggest advantages I’ve always said that Detroit has is that all their all their coaches right and assistant coaches and position coaches are former players that holds a [ __ ] ton of credence so so I think it’s just different

Situations I would list if dude if you’re an owner do you not listen to Devonte Adam and Max Crosby I would think so um but I think sometimes players are uh a little bit too emotional with it I I don’t know about the when you just said look it

Holds a a ton of credence with players if you played before which is ironic because the two latest Stanley Cups that you guys have won were with two guys who didn’t play in the NHL Scotty Bowman didn’t play in the NHL Mike didn’t play in the different coach okay well I’m

Just look you said it I’m using that as the example yeah but the assistant coaches were so you got to have a buffer see all we needed but but again you can’t look see our team’s a Hall of Fame team so you can’t you’re not going to

Have a coach that so ours is different okay you plus Scotty Bowman I know but look I remember having this conversation with Brendan Shanahan and I said to him in the middle think I think in football it’s way more important than it is in hockey okay then there there there’s

Your difference but but I remember saying to him just out of curiosity for you’re a Hall of Fame player all the things that you’ve done and yet Barry Smith who I like a lot is telling you what you need to be doing Barry Smith is telling you what Scotty wants you to

Hear okay look I’m just I’m I’m just telling you the conversation okay and brenon shanan said to me you Shep you you don’t use our locker room with Scot Bowman the greatest coach psychologist because you know how it ran we ran the lock the [ __ ] players ran that locker

Room Smith didn’t tell you what to do he suggested what Scotty wanted okay what I was going to say is Brenan Shanahan said look you can always learn something new every day from somebody which I think which I thought was a great answer I really did I just I

Worry sometime like Pete carrolls won a championship he never played okay wait but but what are you saying like I’m saying I don’t know how important that is as an assistant coach want as a head coach in Seattle the bottom line as long as you can relate to the player and have

Communication whatever nobody cares doesn’t look at you and go it’s when you’re asking cuz here’s what you can’t do right you can’t go well when I played right or using the situation which a lot of time the only time guys get upset right is when somebody who didn’t play

Tries to act like they did or tell you how they did that’s not from your experience because no here’s the biggest thing right you see during the tenure of my career what was the biggest difference video adding video and stuff like this you never had a video guy or

Whatever like now it’s freaking computers on the bench and stuff like this so you need somebody that understands that do you think an old school guy that played no it would be a newer guy so you’re going to learn from that from the video guy or how you’re

Going to want to Big down bottom line number one is communication for sure and that’s what Dan Campbell according to most of his players would is one of his biggest strengths a he’s real B they truly believe he cares about him and see he’s one of the best honest

Communicators they’ve ever played for he’s genuine he’s just say dude AB I love I love that fact right it’s it’s the new age and he’s done it where it’s like the transparency what you see in that man is what you get right do you do not believe he

Drinks six shots of espresso in his coffee every morning I absolutely believe absolutely I believe that if he tells me whatever I I think this is very this is very minimal I love that he’s at the podium packing a fatty I think it’s so kickass because you know what it

Tells me it’s not look you do it too it’s not that it’s not that he’s chewing tobacco or or he’s got a dip it’s the fact that that’s who he is and he’s not going to sacrifice who he is for all of us who feel like oh it’s not right

You’re not supposed to do that what’s the lesson you’re teaching people all those softies out there who believe everything’s got to be Pana he says screw you if you don’t like it don’t watch me don’t listen to me don’t look at me I lik this is who I am I liked it

When uh when the MLB did the the ban on chewing tobacco but the players were grandfathered in the next day Justin Verlander had the fattest dip I’ve ever seen in his mouth in The Dugout just standing there yeah it’s it’s like you know we poke our nose in places what’s

The big deal just if that’s who they are let them be who they are for C that’s the whole thing and isn’t that what you want out of your football coach right like it you know I get it if the the president or you know some right

Like in front of whatever represent but this is your football coach this is what I want I mean fired up and swallow that would be classic would if a president just H you have curiosity anybody out there before I hey before I respond to that or he’s got a cup you know how

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Really appreciate that second hour of the program he’s dmac I’m Matt Shepard Spencer raxer with us as well he’s our executive producer um look when we talk about the lions in general people feel like they have to learn to win they’ve learned to win with certain players right and at certain levels it’s

Interesting how it’s Taylor Decker was successful at Ohio State right Frank ragnow was successful pen Su was successful at the Collegiate level there are guys on the defensive side of the ball who’ve won things Aiden Hutchinson for example but not at the professional level when do we when do we

Differentiate I mean Jared G went to a Super Bowl for Christ sakes okay when do we differentiate when you’ve learned enough to make the next step or why can’t you do it knowing how successful you were at the previous level whatever sport that may be and

Carry it over in to the highest level because everything’s changed your team your team’s changed your League’s changed you know everything else so the answer to your question shef is that’s what winning is for winning is the barometer you know you can look into stats and stuff like this and guys who

Don’t win lean on stats Sam flannel um but the fact is the bottom line is the W you look at don’t tell me if you ask Jared GF right did he draw on his experience from winning in the playoffs with the Rams and what yes all that

Comes into it what it takes is a special group of people to to get the right group of people all around to buy into the same thing the problem usually is is that not everybody is on the same page then it comes the game and no matter how

Talented you are there’s 60 Minutes that that ball goes around and how many times have we seen guys drop it that never drop it you know guys throw interceptions or you know uh bad snaps right the game needs to be played then but as far as winning is the only thing

That teaches you to get to the next level now le losing is your lesson and the lesson of what don’t I do again again how do I change it for the better right so you the old adage is that you never lose if you learn a lesson yeah so

But to bottom line is Chef you don’t you don’t learn that lesson until you win together so then I can look around that room or whatever and have the division shirt or look around the room and know exactly what I put in cuz this ain’t about this is

Accountability that I know in the locker room when I look around how much that guy has committed and put in to things that people don’t see you’re all in or in the way that’s that’s the one thing I like that you’re are the way well it’s

Got to be more to your point and you just kind of touched on it it’s it’s got to be more than just learning how to win otherwise the the Eagles would have done better this year than they did last year otherwise Dak Prescott and the Cowboys would have learned their lessons and

Adapted properly and if that’s the case then perhaps the Lions if they beat Tampa would be favored over either Green Bay or San Francisco knowing that bra pie does not have that type of experience under his belt and nor his Jordan love yeah but how about the rest

Of the team of that that’s where the rest of the the weapons and stuff will will supersede whatever you think about one player right that’s no I mean like if we if if what what’s the what’s the spread it’s got to be at least six

If Detroit goes into San FR no no if Detroit end up going into San Fran right you look at the the Lions this week I think the lions are uh Sixpoint favorite six point favor I think Baltimore is the largest favorite then San Francisco bit no Baltimore’s n San France 10 oh okay

All right San Francis buffal two and a half and then Detroit that that’s going to that’s the what see here’s to your point you know who is right there in the heat of it right now as we talk about this or the bu bills everything right

Now to what is built up to all those other years to the lessons and the the decimation you got Kansas City who has to leave home for the Patrick Mahomes first time in the Patrick Mahomes area play like here’s the thing home the the field advantage weather doesn’t affect

Anybody you’re not going to have that Miami going into Kansas City warm weather team effect this is the job what Jared gof had to do last week in the proof to get over the hump that’s where Josh Allen is right now and and like this is like the biggest game to me

Playing Patrick Mahomes and this this is that test forget I’m not even looking at I think Buffalo Baltimore for an I’m this right here is his test you look Jaylen Herz Philadelphia failed their test and you know why that is is because yes they won yes they got there

In the past two years in one of the better foot best football teams but somehow they didn’t learn the lesson that was supposed to be learned right our Lions team whatever those lessons were we learned them and you nailed it down to the second half adjustments by

The defense to hold Matthew Stafford who threw it around Ford Field in the first half to two field goals in the second half yeah right same same all these little storylines and stuff like that’s what which we will come and see do you like like right all these question marks

That we always have what do we always say spanny the Penn States the Iowa and the Cowboys right well B Buffalo’s got to answer that that question too yeah sometimes it comes down to Talent too you’re right Kansas City has knocked Buffalo out what 20 and 21 Patrick

Mahomes and and the Chiefs they played it in Kansas City so now this is like you know what the in sports and you’ve been around doing this enough right we’re the tides now it’s your turn and it’s right there now not going to be given to you but it’s

Leaning there’s so many things that confli that that I’m conflicted with dmac when I when I look at all these playoffs so for example you know it’s oh it’s tough to beat a team twice in the same year Well Buffalo went into Kansas City and beat the Chiefs Lions went into

Tampa and beat Tampa right so if that’s the philosophy then a lot of people probably be going well maybe you know it’s it’s not going to be as easy I you throw that away when the second when I’d like to see when the second game when

You win the first when the first one of the year is won in the other team’s building and then you host the second game I think a lot of times as you win at home where it’s split and then you got to go play on the road so I I would

Look at that but no I’m not worried I I it’s I I love the uh the discussion about learning from winning and losing I really do learn more from losing it fascinates me and how it takes a team to a different level after they experience the heartache and people will

Use Michigan as an example it’s probably a better example because most of those guys stayed together right so Michigan loses two straight years in the college football playoffs they obviously didn’t learn enough from year one to beat TCU in other words they didn’t learn enough from the loss to Georgia they said they

Were going to be refocus they play TCU they let that get away and then they use it for their first first championship since 1997 I wonder if football teams I wonder if professional teams in general look at it similarly in in in the sense of you

Know what we’re going to take what we learned or what we did really well from one year redefine it and and fix it the the following year great story about Wayne Gretzky and the Oilers after they had lost to the Islanders in the Stanley Cup finals Gretzky and Kevin low who is a

Defenseman for Edmonton were walking by the Islanders locker room expecting to hear all kinds of Celebration and hooting and hollering right and what they did see is they they looked in and they saw these guys absolutely completely spent like 100% are you going to caveat this with oh by

The way this is after the Islanders just won their fourth in four years I you know why you’re spent because you’ve played all those games and you’re an older team and a veteran team and and and I’m going to ruin your story cuz the next year the Edmonton won and went on

Their went on their four to five year run right right so the fact the fact is that yeah trust me after uh oh I can speak on this yeah after the fourth one you’re a little bit more tired didn’t didn’t stop us from celebrating didn’t stop us from getting Insurance either no

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Find out once you go Jack you never go back now back to Chef and dmac it’s kind of been an awesome last few weeks hasn’t it in this area seriously I mean oh football dude state with Michigan and with everything else so so Michigan wins a national championship you know whe whether you

Like Michigan or not it’s good for the state it’s good for the conference it’s out here we we go to Spenny when Spenny like right everything Chef say good for the state good for everything else no no you don’t think so Lions Victory is great Michigan well I do I I think it’s

Good for the big I he’s a Die Hard Spartan yeah look my my daughter’s a sophomore to MSU I I root for MSU for sure um in in just about everything so um same thing with with Michigan CU my son went there and works works for Michigan that’s the Michigan Booth so

You’ve got so you’ve got Michigan winning a national championship you got the lion success this this goes a little bit back further than couple of weeks but still Patrick Kee signed with the Red Wings this has been a nice stretch for Detroit sports the the state of Michigan Sports

It’s as good as I’ve seen in the last two decades is that fair you’re going to go just dropped two decades wow I was def definitely in the last like since 2010 2004 I’d say 2006 like when it the last cup it’s been this is the best we’ve had it since the last

Cup yeah I I think but here’s the thing you’re talking even the year after they won the cup even when they got to to to game uh seven against Pittsburgh which I still thought I thought the ledstrom shot was going in I’ll never forget that being there that was that was still a

Hell of a run right so yeah I I think it’s been I think it’s been a nice run here yeah and and what even the Pistons are making deals and stuff like that moving stuff around they’re trying again don’t forget about us listen don’t do

That cuz we had 5 minutes to go on the show yesterday and I brought that up to Lind and people were livid about that who cares about the league who cares about the Pistons please talk about the Lions I’m like wait a minute I care about the Pistons I want the Pistons to

Do well they didn’t win a game yest that’s for juicy out there they’re trying to make make moves and stuff no but um yeah I mean even go back even more so you added to Brink it in the offseason you added Kane you know what I’m saying like two legitimate snipers

Yeah that are exactly what the team needed that’s the thing right it’s progress right yeah but the but the excitement um you know one of one of the things getting ready for this game on Sunday spending and and I’m going to bring it up right now uh James Houston because it

Was brought up in the in the chat thread and somebody said you I just put him on IR or whatever what’s he going to do are you under the impression I if he’s healthy I want him out there because I think even if he two or four I mean even

If he plays 10 snaps he’s going to make a difference or be effective don’t you think like he’s he’s the one guy if he does five plays he’s probably going to have a sack yeah yeah that’s what he does and and it’s really we’ve seen that combination of a speed rusher on the

Opposite side of of Aiden Hudson working very well and with Hudson playing how he is now he’s got seven sacks in the last three games like you put James Houston next to him he’s going to be getting one-on ones I have the confidence that he’ll be able to get to the quarterback

At least once if you give him like you said 10 pass rushing stamps absolutely that’s how about this one I I think Aiden Hutchinson should keep putting it in the universe that he never gets one of those Fall Down Easy sacks like Stafford did the other day cuz cuz like

Low key you know he’s having a couple sacks and you give him any help at all um I I think it’s a benefit now spending for everybody out there that’s not in the know he has to be activated by when he has to be activated this week I’m not

Sure exactly what day you have till the end of the week or I think for the game the 21-day window ends this week I’m not sure exactly when but it ends this week so if he’s not playing this game he’s done for the rest of the year got to get after the quarterback

Man that was the problem that was the problem in the first half right I mean Stafford’s a great quarterback but if if you’re getting pressure I don’t care who you are I if you’re in the NFL and you’re getting that much time to throw I

Care if it’s G or Stafford I don’t care if it’s Herz or Mayfield I don’t care if it’s pie or whoever they’re going to pick you apart you can’t cover that long you have to get pressure and I would prefer the pressure from the inside that’s why I like how they move

Hutchinson around a little bit I would prefer getting it in your face if you get it from the edge and they can step up in the pocket that’s a little bit of a different situation I think those guys can pick you apart still from that situation I would like more pressure

From up the middle um but listen James Houston off The Edge Hutchinson off the other Edge sometimes stunting and things of that nature those are the that’s the ideal situation for the Lions going in against I don’t care if it’s Tampa San Francisco or Green Bay that’s what you

Need well I think that you got to take advantage of this Baker Mayfield and he’s banged up a little bit and you got to get pressure on him and make get him off his spot you you nailed it that first half of the game right I I mentioned golf uh protected Numbers 22

For 22 Stafford the same thing both of them were slinging it because they were getting protected right it’s who’s going to make everybody again I am not going to let Baker Mayfield end my playoff dreams that’s that’s it bottom line mhm that like that like that’s the mentality

That you get there’s no way this guy right and I I like Baker but I just like no well wouldn’t you say the same thing about Jordan love and I’m more worried about Jordan love Jordan Love’s turned himself into a hell of a quarterback and

And he’s one of the guys that next year like this slowly but surely dependent on what Chicago does either with Justin fields or what we were talking about before they might keep fields and trade Caleb Williams or trade that number one with all the money they have this NFC

North is going to be the division in football in the next couple years I believe I think to me Jordan love um and he had some hiccups during the season but he’s is he he’s he’s good man he he’s I think no I do too um I’m more worried about

Him and I’d be more worried about Brock pie right to whatever else you’d be more worried about Jord Lovefield BR you’d be more worried about Jordan love and Green Bay than Brock p in San Francisco not the the quarterback wow not that no I’d be more worried about Jordan love the quarterback

Not uh Brock pie and his team around him and his Kyle Shanahan and what he’s insulated with but but but one on oneon-one I’m taking Jordan love I’m taking Jordan love over a lot of guys wow I just honestly is probably number five four or five in

Of my quarterbacks in this league Jordan loves Jordan loves the fifth best quarterback in the league yours yeah M the guys that I would take like younger moving forward or what like what you got two you got Jordan love you looking like CJ Stout I don’t believe in Justin

Fields like everybody else does so I’m interested in see oh you’re just talking about young quarterbacks I’m not talking about no I’m not talking about Patrick Mo and all the list that everybody all has it never changes it okay I’m I’m I’m talking about guys that are legit I I don’t know

If people don’t change it I think they they’re constantly changing it that’s that’s part of the issue I mean no it’s momes and Allan and and rightfully Lamar and you know I’ll tell you this I’ll take D I’ll take Jordan love over Dakota rain I mean he’s better like dude do you

Got do you understand what’s going on with with like and CJ Stout and like there’s some great young quarterbacks in this league that are going to be around I don’t for a while look I don’t disagree with you but I always pump the breaks on coming to a conclusion on a

Player too soon if they struggle or if they’re successful right and what has Jordan love done both uh but he but for me he just hasn’t done it long enough no that’s fair but so I guess here’s the thing yes there it is your cooking time for this is a lot

Longer than mine I was just say like it took me like here’s the thing right I was one of the last ones to the Jaylen Herz party MH and I still think he’s a good court but there’s some there’s something wrong organizationally wrong communication wrong yeah right no it’s look I all all

The things you’re saying are fair because Jordan love I believe he was second in the league in touchdown passes to Dak Prescott and I think it was like 32 only had 11 picks that’s pretty damn good what I’m yeah and here’s the one thing where you watch him and you watch

And I put him and CJ St they’re getting they get better like he’s smart M you know what I’m saying like he fits into that Green Bay he looks he looks like a Green Bay quarterback he back there you’re absolutely right that there are certain positions in certain teams um

And even College Programs too where you look at him you’re like okay I can see why that team wanted him right um way back in the day Miami of Florida used to have quarterback after quarterback after quarterback after quarterback Penn State used to have linebacker after linebacker

Running back Florida and and a running back guys who are drafted right like yeah wide receiver you at Alabama yeah you target certain players for your team based on if it’s the GM or the coach they want a certain kind of guy you need a linebacker who’s the linebacker over

At Alabama right now right like where where do you look first who’s the next Will Anderson right yeah exactly right um so I I thought that was uh yeah I think that’s a that’s a fair point I mean I I I think Jordan Love’s really good and I think that’s an interesting

Perspective that you’re looking at it from uh this could be the division to beat moving forward I now the FC East you know with if you believe in the combination of Hill and tongue of aloa with Josh Allen in Buffalo pretty damn good obviously Cincinnati when when Joe burrow is healthy Cleveland’s defense

Should keep them competitive and of course what happened to them lastek I know they got smoked and then you look at at Baltimore and what they’ve been able to do and I’m a big believer in Mike Tomlin I think he’s a hell of a football coach so I think Pittsburgh’s

Never had a losing season yeah 17 years 17 years not not below 500 season is that crazy it’s crazy yeah and look who he did it with this year mhm and look what he did it with this year like like I wasn’t I wasn’t a huge fan of the

Draft of of Kenny picket I don’t think he’s a franchise quarterback I mean My Philosophy not that anybody is is looking at me to to draft a team but I don’t take a quarterback for the sake of taking a quarterback you want to take

Him later in a in a draft I get it I’m not using I’m not burning a first round pick on a quarterback just because I need a quarterback he better be good he better be ready he better be a guy who’s going to contribute pretty quickly I

Think can he pick it I don’t think he’s a starting quarterback in the NFL I want my first round picks in the NFL or any sport to play right away baseball it’s not going to happen hockey it’s probably not going to happen either but I want them to contribute right away the had

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Matt Shepard inert Neil Ru he’ll be back tomorrow little travel issues in this cold Spen moax and BMG also here just talking about uh football and winning and what a great time to be a a sports fan unless not alone a football fan in the state of Michigan unless unless you

Don’t have the money to go to the game you don’t need to go to the game you can pick up the watch party have you seen the prices of tickets for this coming weekend lowest one’s like 650 I think upper bowl I’m I’m reading like a th000 to $2,000

Jeez yeah I don’t know I mean that doesn’t surprise me I mean it’s second market price or whatever like that so I mean I guess that would suck if you want to be there and this is what it’s all about but if you’re not tune in the

Woodward sports live stream we have a great time great time I like my seat for that one well here’s the here’s the thing that I always worry about teams come into their their stadiums and they get the die hards the guys who the guys and gals who have been

Been supporting them for their entire lives and you know putting things aside making sacrifices to to buy the tickets and then when the team gets good and the postseason comes along that fan base is priced out and I hope that’s not the case I don’t know that to be the case so I’m

I’m not going to say this is exactly what’s happening here that’s why I say I used it in a more generic term I I worry about that how about the devil’s advocate go ahead how about the the person that’s stuck through it all this time but then realizes that they could

Sell their tickets for One game and pay for their whole season or whatever I mean there was a lot of that conversation going on if you’re a season ticket holder would you have sold your first round tickets in the and thinking that they were going to win to keep to

Go to the second round or go to the first round you had that experience you had that win now if you’ve been there and you don’t want to you know put up with this you could sell them off I I I think it’s a it’s a great capitalist

Position to be in but again there ain’t no it ain’t cheap we know one thing for sure no matter what the price right somebody’s going to pay it and that place is going to be full and it’s going to be loud and and uh you know so I I guess there’s there’s both

Ways to it two to the remember back in where the like back in LCA I mean that like the always sold out even regular season stuff but when we started winning playoffs and cut like I mean I couldn’t get a ticket yeah you know for friends

Or family like there was no tickets to be had right right you know what I’m saying so that’s a good way to look at it I I like that I I appreciate the perspective here’s the other thing this time of year I don’t know how the NFL

Changes it so I don’t I don’t have a solution to this so I really shouldn’t be complaining about it but I’m going to anyway okay the Lions coordinators are in demand might be a strong word but I’ll use it anyway Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn are looking at head coaching

Opportunities and rightfully so I mean they they’ve been very successful they are at least in that conversation they should be in the conversation but they’re using or have to use this week’s window to do that and I don’t question their work ethic or their preparation or their commitment by

Any stretch but it does put a lot of weight on their proverbial shoulders to try and get ready for Tampa and a second round playoff game while still interviewing and being as prepared as you possibly can when you walk into an owner or a general manager’s office

And say this is why you should hire me once my team is done but isn’t this the great like this is one of the things that the aloofness or the lack of self-awareness of the NFL that don’t give a [ __ ] they don’t care they operate like Mortal engines the London if you

Haven’t seen mortal engine it’s like the city and it travels right they the NFL they’re aloof they’ll run over whatever whatever to whatever because here’s the thing and and you can’t everybody’s different but wouldn’t you here’s here’s my and and I know you can’t especially if you want to get to

The next level but shouldn’t be one of those things that that Ben Johnson or Aaron Glenn just sorry not this week not until Ron can say that and you know what if that cost me that interview or that job then it wasn’t meant to be in the

First place oh meant to be stuff come on no what do you mean it wasn’t meant to be if team is not going to interview me because I’m going to make my playoff team that I work for right now a priority during this week and you can’t

Wait till I’m done then I don’t want to be a part of your team because that’s what I mean you don’t make so then I’m not a priority because if you want the best coach then then I would say you want that interview no matter what and

If I’m I would respect that coming that oh this guy has loyalty and knows job at hand instead of next big paycheck right so you’re going to wait you’re going to wait for me I get it okay that’s good yeah I like that yeah you’re going to

Wait for this goddamn NFL playoffs yeah and you know what I don’t care if you need me now then obviously like that’s a red flag to me and I think that as a commodity and I know there’s interviews going on but that’s get your interviews with everybody who’s done out

Of the way wasn’t wasn’t there four teams that just got kic that that just lost this weekend aren’t there coaches on you know the Cowboys and all that go do that as they as you lose then you should do the like we’re the right and if I was Ben Josh or Aaron

Glenn I tell it you know so what because you know what Chef then the narrative I could tell you why didn’t you interview for them CU I told them no during the playoff week exactly and where does that so that’s not going to happen figure out

A way put that should put you in a more positive light I’m with you man and a lot of times too I question when a guy does that and you know it’s different when the NFL puts their foot down you don’t do it you’re going to get fined or

What like like that when they play hard ball but it’s another one when you see a guy make it a priority to leave while they’re on the clock with another team especially in the playoffs I’d rather you do it in week 18 if you have it locked up I would rather

That yeah you’re going to rest players rest coaches exactly that’s a great Point yeah no look um I think Ben Johnson’s got interviews with Atlanta Carolina the Chargers am I missing um Washington and I think there’s one more Tennessee I think Tennessee so the only team team

There Carina that would be with their owner that would be aloof and say it’s got to be now my way or the highway which Ben Johnson I would advise you you don’t want that [ __ ] show anyways yeah he already turned down seem like run to the fact that we understand that

Respectfully and you don’t do it like I I’m coaching it’s like respectfully this is my priority I will give if I’m the I’ll tell you this if I’m your head coach I give you the same exact commitment I think that’s way more important plus a lot of these teams

Already SHP know which way isn’t this just like the interview or whatever process to meet the Rooney Rule and all this other BS that they don’t really abide by anyways well the Rooney Rule has to do with probably more uh you know minority interview guys unless you’re unless you’re New England that you

Minority candidates minority I get it but that but in saying that there’s a lot of minority candidates that that deserve to be interviewed that aren’t working this week go interview them get that out of the way right I get it yeah no I’m with you on that um I just think

It’s it’s it would be very difficult you know th those preparing for an interview is is hard in general number one but you know if if you really want the job but number two as a coach going in talking about your philosophy how you would look

At a roster how you would adjust that roster how you would relate to the players how you would relate to the Community who would make up your staff all those things when you’ve got to do that for in Ben Johnson’s case five different teams no would really say no

Because I got to spend that time on my third and 11 play to the fact that if I got to execute that I got no no time nothing in my brain I’m all about Detroit Lions and if you don’t respect that I would I would think that I don’t

Want to be a part of your organization because then we’re starting off on the wrong foot to begin with yeah Aaron Glenn by the way I believe has interviews with all those teams but the Chargers so he has uh that’s that’s I think that’s a good

Thing I mean if Dan if if people want your coaches that tells you something about where your team is at absolutely you know well we see it it’s you know it’s it the the way it’s cyclical but I what how hard was it before we go to how

Hard would it be for the NFL just to come out and say you know what you no interviews until season’s over or or until the the week between the yeah the Super Bowl and thec champ the championship games yeah now now what would be wrong with that cuz you get two

Weeks so why not so and you put three days right the first three days Monday Tuesday Wednesday could be interview days to you try to make it fair aren’t you trying to look out for the best interest of your game too so you give you guys preparation I would hope so and

I think with two weeks your coaches right that are getting interviewed so they’re responsible to begin with would know when they would have to focus mhm I think that that I think that we should call that the max sheeper rule I I well you’re the one who came up with the date

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Pistons Victory a little bit hard in George I think you Blaha right yeah you know Sparty dog had knel out there probably in the streets uh but he’ll be back tomorrow BMG spend moax as always just for the Pistons four Detroit Ling Detroit versus everybody holl Drew says

You bet it uh uh I don’t know who said it but yeah all about the D especially right now he somebody else said 3410 lions in their win over Tampa I I like that score I I like that I could see that I like I don’t care if it’s one

Point or 24 points but I I think that’s a pretty good score right there we started out the show when you go back on you know Woodward Sports the rewind to check it out but you you said that you expect this game not to be close correct

I mean I I honestly like I like that 10 number for them and I like 2710 but but a but a game where we know we have to do full control again I’m going to I’m going to say I’m going to say it over I’m not letting Baker Mayfield end my

And my season right as long as the uh as long as Detroit doesn’t turn it over I I just don’t see a path to uh to Tampa winning um you had mentioned the Pistons winning yesterday they fourth Red Wings have won a couple in a row after beating

Toronto in Toronto they’re in Florida tomorrow okay so they take on the Panthers tomorrow night and they have won what five of six points in all the last six games starting on the west coast that’s impressive we mentioned in here right what I say this next 10 games when they

Started the West Coast trip then they’re 5 and One MH on this trip they just got four games left but this was going to make her break and if you look at the standings Michael where does this still put them getting all these points in the

Wild in the wild but right in the heat and in the East if you don’t know there’s six teams fighting for two spots and it’s going to be nip and Tuck so doesn’t get any easier you got to go into Tampa Bay Mike dmac would that tell

You that uh they need to make a move at the trade deadline you’re muted you’re muted you’re muted sorry I uh my bad I certainly think they’ll figure out some with the goal tending situation obviously you’re not going to roll for three goalies for much longer once whoo

Does get back and uh he’s working his way towards there but I could see adding another defenseman and uh maybe another goal scoring forward to just add on the like the bottom six I think if you’re going to make the playoff push there’s definitely moves to be made it’s just

Really what Steve values more than the other but I think go tending obviously that situation will get itself figured out the defenseman’s big I just I just don’t think that that goalie is there right for the asking price or whatever everybody needs it or whatever so shout

Out to Alex lion who’s going to carry the load as long as he can now this is a guy that proved it on going on a playoff run with Florida last year and stuff so what he’s doing it it’s the confidence and the team plays better in front of

Them I think you’re right Mikey as far as this is a buyer I think it’s if you’re you’re close and you continue to stay in this Stevie’s nobody works the phones harder like than that and I just always laugh because if you’re a GM do

You want 313 coming up on your phone and no because you know that at the end of the day he’s got to find out a way to get what he wants if if it’s out there so I think that yeah Mikey if you’re going to add

You know you might look at a couple veteran guys but you’re not going to the one thing is you’re not going to hinder the progress that youve made and the building to to go for whatever it ain’t a go for it year yeah still he’s not a

Guy who it doesn’t seem to me not a gambler bro well he I don’t think he’s going to deviate from his plan even though this window is here I you know I say this all the time about the wings when people used to say oh you know they

Made the playoffs 25 straight years but so what man we got to tear it down I it’s it’s going to get ugly it’s hard it’s super hard to tear something down and build it back up quickly and now people are a little let’s go all in no

He’s going to stay to his beliefs stick to his plan if he can add something without surrendering something that he feels is a vital piece then I assume he’ll do it that’s just my million look at what he did with Patrick Kane look at what he did with the brink yeah and

Stuff it’s uh shef it’s called the hash wiser plan for a reason it’s his 1919 um it’s his and he won’t deviate no matter what Kane’s been great too man I mean he he’s been even better than I thought he would yeah because but it wasn’t it was

Wasn’t it like everything else I was he could score and he was going to score and he was going to play like this if he was healthy and I think he’s healthy and he’s only going to get better and the biggest thing what I love is what he

What he’s doing and and you’re going to you have the gives with the takes right people say well like defensive no put a puck in the net especially when most crucial times in the shootout right how many games has he finished off in the shootout and stuff like that so what you

Cannot be happier with what Patrick Kane and not only like just endear and come in and been a been a a Redwing been a soldier been a guy like in the past that’s had credentials had success other places but yet come here to bring that knowledge and experience to help this

Team he wants to win as much as anybody else I think he’s having fun I it seems like it it’s hilarious when people will say yeah but he doesn’t play defense did you ever that’s not the reason they got him I I know you want guys to play 200

Feet I know you guys want guys at both ends of the ice I understand that but when when he signed here and you were giddy as a school kid don’t tell me you said I got to tell you man I’m a little worried about his defense this team

Needed scoring desperately and they got it in for in the form of debret and Kane here’s the one thing right what was the draft what is one thing we can score with the rest of the league we can put Pucks in the net if we getting like the

Shoot the thing is can we commit and keep it out of the net this last little run has proven more of a commitment to the defensive side and who who does it start with it’s got to start with your leader Everybody follow suit but to that point if I’m in

The locker room if the grind Line’s in the locker room we’re telling PK go out and do your thing we’ll we’ll make sure we shut down on the back on the back end so it’s other guys stepping up if he’s doing his job that way yeah love it uh

There’s one other piece of news besides the Lion’s euphoria that I think some people might be like whoa uh maybe didn’t see that coming they might have expected it um but Michigan’s going to lose JJ McCarthy mhm all right he’s going to the NFL personally it’s not surprising although I think he would

Have benefited greatly from another year how do you guys view him at the next level well I I think the first thing with him declaring is that mean Harbaugh’s leaving I think like do you do you is there writing on the wall where if Harbaugh was coming back that

He’d come back I would I would as be speculating but I would agree I would say like yeah and that’s all we can comes back yeah I think so right to me it it it’s one of those things that okay we we’re going to move on yeah maybe

Professionally and and if he did come back I think he would only raise his stock so um obviously Shep you know how these things work he’s uh probably talking to an agent and probably telling him he’s going to be what a late first round or something like that well what

What are they telling him probably round I to me got that he’s being told he’s gonna be a first round draft L late I would say I would probably late first to midc yeah which isn’t necessarily a bad thing I mean he could actually go to a

Situation where as long as it’s not behind a Young quarterback he could go to a situation where there’s a veteran quarterback and learn for two years and then kind of slide his way into competing for a starting spot so I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing I

Don’t know if Harbaugh comes back he comes back I I I’m not sold on that and here’s the reason why either way he’s gone after next year either way they lose a slew of talent and have to quote unquote in the college B Football ranks rebuild um so either way it was just

Going to be one more year with Jim Harbaugh what difference does that make to him I think it’s all about whether or not this what the the scouts or what his agents or what those who are pro profiling quarterbacks are telling him this is where you’re going to go and I

Don’t think it I don’t think it matters if if Jim Harbo is coming back and somebody said you’re going to be a late first round pick I still think he’s going that’s all that’s fair what about this D you make yeah exactly I got to and I and remind me I got

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Individual responsible acted alone and we can only hope they will make things right Soon Lions fans it’s the moment we’ve been waiting for we got to experience it yes the first playoff game and you’re like Spenny and a ton of the others they were down at Bullseye event group Spenny how was the pregame at Bullseye event group it was awesome great food great drinks

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About that that’s all that’s all right we can get you a nice muffin Birmingham roast on the way out uh my quick question here on JJ McCarthy declaring for the draft Yeah like you said if he speculated late first round is this because in late first round who picks in

The late first round the playoff teams the fact that a teams that that have um a quarterback already in play is this one of these moves that that maybe expects to go to an organization to exactly what you said that he can nurture behind a guy or you know it’s a

Playoff team that doesn’t have a quarterback in Place Pittsburgh I’m just putting that there that’s is it do they go from Kenny picket to JJ McCarthy I don’t think they would yeah I don’t I don’t think so either I I’m not not he want somebody that’s not an ideal situation because he

Needs to go behind like what about a Baltimore behind Lamar or you know like like some some some Place more established I was I was thinking the Rams but yeah okay the Rams there yeah you know something like that something like that so that could that time will

Tell but that was the one thing that that piqu my interest uh hell I mean even the team like Tampa okay it goes back to I I probably it’s nauseating sometimes when I always talk about this but goes back to there’s just there’s just not that many good

Quarterbacks out there they just really aren’t I mean I I I don’t think there’s I was having this debate with one of my sons earlier I said there’s not one guy in this draft as a quarterback rodo got to have him I’m going to move up okay I

I don’t care if it’s Caleb Williams I don’t care if it’s Drake may I don’t care if it’s JJ McCarthy I I don’t care there there’s not one guy I’m going Gotta Have him it’s been a long time since a quarterback came out and I said

That’s the guy I would want to build be come to mind one of the last we we touched on this a little bit yesterday you know I mean it’s like even CJ strout for as good as he is and he he’s hands down rookie of the year last year I I’m

Not the I I would not have been a general manager said I’m going to move Heaven and Earth to get him that’s all and then and if I’m wrong then so be it um so there’s there’s very few quarterbacks I think you know when when guys aren’t

Doing that for a guy like Aaron Rodgers who played a cal who who’s the guy coming out this year that makes you go oh man come on I mean think about it who’s the last quarterback you saw play at the Collegiate level and you said for

Sure he’s he’s the guy like I thought I thought that of Stafford at Georgia for sure I’m trying to think Joe burrow probably Joe bur tror Lawrence uh yeah Trevor Lawrence yeah but I think those two guys are exceptionals yeah might to be what it is

And look at even the greatest in the game now spend some time yeah right learning Patrick Mahomes right right you know wasn’t Would It Go 12th or whatever like that that that that’s where where it look it looks at it it’ll be interesting because you know like you

Said what is what do these teams do that that don’t have a quarterback yeah are they going to make trade is Chicago I mean there’s there’s so much interesting stuff and the best part we sit here and go we got Brad Holmes who cares well not

Just that it’s when’s the last time at this time of the year we we weren’t talking about we weren’t talking about mock drafts never in my life right like we don’t even care about them right now I mean are you even clicking on them to see the Lions would be Pi where would

The Lions be picking in 209 28 30th something somewhere along there we don’t know yet because you know it hasn’t played out but they’re going to be they’re going to be pretty low and you’re going to be thinking okay this is where I choose a defensive tackle this

Is where I choose an offensive guard or something like that you don’t feel like you got to have that direct impact big name guy because you got him at wide receiver you got him at running back you feel like you got him to a certain extent at quarterback so it’s a great

Feeling to have you don’t have to worry about that stuff in the past it was like oh man I tell you what we really need a quarterback I would move this guy there’s no scenario like that we’re talking about football games on the field not football games in the

Boardroom that’s a really cool feeling it is isn’t it yeah we’re legit yeah legit real team and that’ll be a legit another Big D energy in the books yeah thanks for joining us everybody will be back tomorrow Matt always an absolute pleasure we get a chance to chop it up

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