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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 – Intro
02:30 – CFP reactions
12:00 – No, FSU wasn’t validated by Alabama loss
16:00 – How to fix the bowl system
21:00 – Trying to assess bowl outcomes for NC State, UNC, rest of the ACC
39:00 – David Tepper has a tantrum
49:00 – Ravens and Niners looking like Super Bowl matchup
55:00 – Dolphins vs. Bills
59:00 – Hey Joe

How late did you make it on oh I was I was alive with the sound of music sir really that’s an upset thought you wanted to sh I thought you were in for the night when I texted you so we going downtown to make content

You’re like nah I was like oh you’ll be in bed by 7:30 so you made it I didn’t leave the house but yeah I do the thing where quite proud of myself I set an alarm for 11:55 so I can wake up and watch the

Ball drop but I didn’t need it this time and I’m glad I stayed up because I watched uh The Rock and Eve you familiar with jelly roll I’m familiar with the artist named jelly roll of course you are of course you are I had a feeling you were I

Didn’t say I lik them but I when I saw when I saw that dude my first thought was did Bubba Sparks and post Malone have a baby I think my favorite tweet was jelly roll looks like the wish.com version of post Malone but then he started this I’m like

Oh that’s jilo that’s that’s got jilo written all over it tell you what though I would have take a jelly roll over freaking Nick Owens or Jake Owens or whatever that guy was at the stadium series Stadium Series why was Leonard skinnard in the year of Our Lord

2024 whoever was left they allad first of all who’s left of Leonard skinnard They’re All Dead second of all I think it’s the kid I think the kid’s still going sure no you know what make me they were the headline act on whatever channel was on in my house you know what

Actually got me mad speaking of The Stadium Series because we got stuck with tick Tinky Ticky talk or whatever the hell that was called did you watch the the Seattle cracking game they had heart as the intermission they came out I heard the rift to Barracuda like I’m like why

Can’t we get that oh she’s from they’re from yeah right which gets the like why can’t we get like a local artist yeah tell you what though I mean they’re up there in age but those those grandmas crushed it man still getting it done I loved it anyway I’m impressed I’m surprised

You uh oh we get to since it’s finally 2024 yes we get to open up the kitten calendar a very excited about this got that for you at the dollar store in July all ready Ready’s do it merry New Year let’s podcast alongside Joe jilo I’m Joe obus the

College football playoff semi-finals are in the books we get an all big 10 title game Joe we were not given an all SEC future SEC Championship game we get the big 10 championship game just as ESPN scripted it right you know you know David Tipper tossing the water which

We’ll get to a little bit later on on I’m sure there was an ESPN exec they had did you see that they had the SEC network with their own Rose Parade float the SEC network had people out there for that if Florida state was in the Rose bow do you think they would

Have put Mark Packer and the crew out there hell no they would never done I’m not seeing Eric mlan out there you know this about ESPN so we get an all big 10 uh I’m not surprised that Michigan is in the championship game Joe I a little bit

Surprised that the Michael penck junor roller coaster results in Championship Game appearance good for Washington good for the Pack 12 in there last year let’s see if they can walk this thing off I my initial my initial takeaway Michigan’s gonna win the thing I was impressed by the way Michigan over came that

Typical you haven’t played in a month cuz every championship game all these cfp games have and even the BCS has these like weird starts because these teams haven’t played in a month man they’ve been doing all the media appearances they’ve been doing the stuff around town all that stuff that happens

Right so when they were kind of derping over themselves I thought man Alabama’s gonna make them pay Alabama didn’t make him pay they survived that first quarter and then they still had the Special Teams mistakes too even late I thought man like Michigan is beating them up front Michigan is holding them down

Defensively and they’re moving the ball but special teams continues to bite them what was it like 11 points essentially they spotted Alabama so Michigan always looked like the better team to me and I think they’ll be able to do the same thing against Washington in the championship game next week which gets

To one of the more interesting things that came out of the result not Jim Harbaugh and whether or not he’s going to the n NFL it’s the way that Nick Sabin talked about this Alabama team after the game it’s almost like after all these years and multiple national

Championships and being in your Mid 7 or 72 it’s almost like he has like the clarity to understand man we were fortunate to be here in the first place I love this group didn’t work out on the end I’ll take it I thought was that was surprising from Nick sain you know me

I’ve been on Nick Sav going to retire and I do think this will be the last time he gets a kick at the can okay even if he doesn’t retire he won’t have another group there you look at this Alabama team none of their running backs are

Pros none of their receivers are Pros their quarterback may or may not be a pro and it may be at a different position okay it’s unbelievable athlete milro unbelievable oh yeah that was a part of the storyline with Bill O’Brien and what position he was gonna play it

Gave us the whole length I mean he comedy I I did not mind the last play no I didn’t I even said before it I go I don’t don’t care he the kidss got a run on this play now you could have rolled him out a little bit maybe G him the

Option of throwing that thing but I had zero problems with Alabama getting down to the two yard line and saying Jaylen Milo is going to run the football and this is how we’re going to decide if we play for the national championship or not this was not a classic or vintage

Alabama team this was Dick sabin’s best work and I think he appreciates that when you get one last look at this thing and I think he knows whether he retires this week or next week or next year or the year after he knows uh these opportunities and he knows how this is

All shifting um I thought it was interesting the very first play of the game Caleb DS you and I we have lots of conversations and in the old days let’s talk about the old days in the old days I would have written a story a long time

Ago about Caleb DS Caleb DS is the safety freshman safety for Alabama his brother is Josh DS oh his father is Gary DS his his brother Josh played football for Carolina because his uncle Dre was an assisant coach at North Carolina his father Gary was a running back at NC

State when I was at NC State yeah I see where you’re going with this so you know you and I talk a lot about oh man if only Carolina could do this if only NC State could do that yeah and I would just present to you and galeb DS by the

Way he gonna be a top 10 pick in the draft he is an absolute he is a stud he is a dude he is that guy and on the very first play of that game he comes up with an interception and you’re going wait wait a second did Wolf Blood just make a

Play what just happened here that’s the lens so back in the day when you used to work in the newspaper you’d always used to try to find the local angle every story’s local right so we would have written stories about Caleb DS a long time ago and truth of the matter is

These Local Schools even if you could get a Josh towns uh a smaller slot receiver you can’t get the festar can’t miss Pro brother right and that’s what Alabama does so the whole world is changing and that’s why I think Nick s you he should

Be applauded kind of like Coach K at the end um again this was not Jerry Judy and uh receivers that they have running around out there and Amari Cooper you’re going I mean this Devonte Smith I me name them all I me this was not that um

But they they schemed it up I thought their left tackle was a bit of a problem I thought Michigan attacked him and Michigan’s Michigan has a lot more guys yes okay three years ago they get to the playoff they play Georgia and I said there’s no way they win this football be

Game because Michigan and Georgia want to play the same way and you’re not going to beat Georgia at Georgia’s game okay and they get to this game this year and guess what they beat Alabama at Alabama’s game they were better up front on both sides of the ball I thought they

Had players in the secondary who made more plays made more plays behind the line of scrimmage that Alabama simply couldn’t do when when they had to when they had to and I thought Michigan’s last Drive JJ McCarthy I thought he was tight in the first half of this game

Throws a pick on the first play of the game even though it was overturned um I think Mich tight I think Michigan kind of plays like their head coach Jim Harbaugh is a little odd and tight you know yeah but there’s a little chaos to him I mean there was chaos after the

Game too because people were trying to ask him about you know what did you think about this and oh what about the what about your future and he just kept ducking those question I mean that’s silly in the middle of of the whole thing in all this when they haven’t even

Won the whole thing yet there’s going to be time for it but we can kind of read the tea leaves here he just hired Don Ye Tom you know most famously Tom Brady’s agent and who represents NFL guys that he’s likely gonna be an NFL coach next

Season getting a heck of a lot of money especially if he walks it off winning a national championship with Michigan which I think he’s going to do but in the meantime when I say you kind of take on your personality of your of your coach there’s some there’s some chaotic

Energy about all things Harbaugh and I think this team and again not to get too cliche here but when you watch Michigan play they are not this otherworldly incredibly Dynamic team no they’re not a monster but they are a team and they play oddly enough the complimentary football you expect

They’re not going to W you offensively they’re going to get things done defensively and they can overcome the miscues like we saw on special teams and you mentioned they’ve just got dudes yes on on the defense they simply have dudes or in the case of corm somebody who can

Step up and get you the yards that you need or McCarthy who can step up and get you plays at the end did he have a great game not necessarily but he made some great plays in game it’s 20 to 13 they get the ball with three minutes left

That money was on the table there that’s where the money was well I mean there was the the trickeration too where he’s literally and McCarthy’s literally falling back and he manages to make a throw and I forgot who the wide receiver was but he ends up making that catch so

I think Michigan’s going to ultimately win it all and regardless of who their opponent was yesterday Michigan I thought was going to win which gets us to the Florida state equation I thought it was really really odd which by the way before we get to the Florida state

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And stuff like that oh yeah like actual business part of the business M I don’t know man wait a minute but that’s you’re rolled I understand that but like I’m saying you’re the CFO Joe you got to get a little organized and that’s where copers plus copers dpl.com can help so

About Florida State and I I had put this on social media last night if your immediate reaction last night to Michigan beating Alabama Alabama losing with one loss having beaten Georgia in the SEC Championship game was well I mean you telling me that Florida State couldn’t have put up the same fight as

Alabama if that was your immediate thought last night are you on the acc’s payroll and given how Florida state has gone about their business over the last couple of weeks and fighting the ACC on their way out why would you even want to promote FSU at this point it was that’s

An embarrassing level of ACCC simping that that not even I somebody who is accused of being an ACC simp can go if you talk about the old days funny thing about the old days is that they’re the old days but if this were the old days and I wanted to start maximum chaos

Arguments you don’t invoke Florida State y’all Florida State’s old news that’s last year if you really want to advance the argument if you really want to get people fired up if you want to go Blades of steel or whatever that movie was called if you want to get the people going you invoke

Georgia a team that crushed Florida State a team that we are still trying to process how did you lose to Alabama in the SEC champion game that’s that’s the real mystery that’s that’s the argument starter if you want to get people going they’re saving by the way also I don’t I

Just don’t think Georgia is great offensively and you they just scored 63 points cool I get that that let’s take nothing from that game other than we saw this last year remember Georgia effectively lost to Ohio State in the playoff last year yeah but they won the

Game and then that’s when you saw them unleash the fury on TCU so to Kirby Smart’s credit they Lo they did actually lose the outcome to Alabama and then he unleashes the fury in the next game because as you’ve said Georgia is a little bit of like hey are we really

Motivated we’ve done this thing for three years in a row there’s a lot of that there was that that was their entire problem all year that shouldn’t have been an issue against Alabama I think I think they got out coached against Alabama to be perfectly honest

With them and mil played a great game against them and I don’t think Georgia’s offense is is at that type of level um but my real takeaway from this weekend was honestly I said it the day of I’ll say it again I said it before I’ll say

It to the end of time if you’re Florida State the conference you’re mad at is the SEC yeah the school specifically you’re mad at is Georgia if Georgia had beaten Alabama as they should have and if they play 10 more times they probably win nine of those games then it’s four

Unbeaten power five teams those four teams make the playoff and play for the national championship not any not Texas not Alabama not anybody else you’re in so again the team you should really be mad at is Georgia ultimately the committee got it right if the point is

To put two games together that give you maximum content two games together that give you maximum entertainment compelling matchups then they got it right I disagree in the sense that there was no right answer this year this this is one of those riddles like did you ever my seventh grade English teacher

Gave us this thing where if you can convince me that you can use one of the Genie’s wishes yeah and it’s it’s truly for good then I’ll give you I think she offered us five in in 1988 or 89 it was and everything she had a reason why it

Wasn’t a good wish right so I think this little this is like that riddle like you’re sitting here going there was a right answer there’s no right answer this year you know why Joe because in 2014 the five conferences sat down and said every year we are guaranteed to

Have at least one of us left out and we’re going to we’re going to have that argument removed next year when we go to 12 and we’re going to get some chaos in the 12 team play don’t get me wrong but part of the compelling reason why we are

So obsessed with college football is that never-ending argument the argument starters the chaos ah the yellow pad is out can I what do we have here I need to get this on the record I’m G to do a better job of this in 2024 is that your resolution gonna clip

This and Mark this and save this for future days so we have it uh I I started this about 15 years ago and how to fix college football here is a quick checklist because I think it’s gaining some momentum after people are sitting through some awful truly awful bowl

Games that seemingly no one cares about including the players who are in the games M so my plan the jilo master plan to fix college football number one pay the players huh the NCAA president himself has now suggested that number two add a second open date to each

Season this is this this avoids anybody having to play on short rest at any time during the year mind blowing rocket surgery right number three play one doublea opponents in the preseason so instead of playing Campbell in November if you’re Carolina you’re going to play that game like the

Second week of August you’re going to get everybody on the roster a chance to play you’re going to let people come into the stadium they’re going to pay you’re still going to make money you’re going to pay Campbell all those good things win-win for everyone number four expand the playoff and have automatic

Bids which is then going to put more value on the regular season and you’re going to see more conference games which is coming okay and now number five which is the one that is the one everyone’s been talking about all week again this is from 2010 move the bowl games to week

Zero and week one how still play them at their neutral site how many players opt out of a Florida state Georgia game that’s played down in the Orange Bowl on the the last Saturday of August how many yeah none not one what do you think ratings for that game might be pretty

Monsters I’m glad to see everyone else starting to come around to all of my ideas to fix college football I say this I say this you’re welcome housekeeping we have speaking of football we’ve got techmo football coming up February 4th we need can’t wait we need contestants uh this is

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That stuff now treat yourself get something over at HomeField apparel.com again use that promo code OG G23 No we’re playing the depressing music because it doesn’t really matter what the ACC Does people still want to clown the ACC uh ACCC had a very decent bull season actually Joe a very decent bull season uh despite the fact that the Georgia Florida State game played out

The way that it did they finished with an a seven and five record against the SEC for the season for the season okay yeah seven and five against the SEC overall in in 2023 first time that’s happened since 2016 pretty cool huh are you trolling me right now pretty cool right because you

Just said that you were a simp for the ACC what what was decent about the acc’s bull season Duke beating Troy Vibes man Boston College beating future ACC member SM Vibes that was actually the best Duke is all Vibes I tried you know what’s funny about the bowl season and we’ll we’ll do

A little bit like a a speed run through the bull season before we get into the Panthers in the NFL what do here’s my here is my frustration when we talk about the Bulls if we all recognize wait what part of this was decent to you what say if if the goal is

To beat the SEC Joe wait a second Joe if the goal is to beat the SEC they had a good year seven and five against the SEC oh because CLM beat Kentucky yeah it was great great game exciting game I don’t see a lot of decent in here I know I I’m

Trying Jo Georgia Tech beats Central Florida Syracuse no showed yeah Duke rallied yeah Louisville got embarrassed did by USC’s backups VT feeling good in the rain that was good the heels the Wolves yeah well uh can’t lose on SMBC and then oh sweet baby Jesus try to

Explain it to your dad in 19 87 that the U was going to lose to rers Yankee Stadium that would be a mindbending experience focus on the seven and five against the SEC okay just focus on that that’s my that’s my that’s my goal here to focus on you’re just trolling me

There because you in the previous segment you said even even I I’m like not that big of a now you’re like oh it was great it was great it was great it was 7 so here here’s the thing about here’s the thing about bs you you

You had threw me for a loop there on our first recording of 2024 you had your whole thing there how to fix the bll season things like that does it really need fixing when we have mascots sacrificing themselves for a team to eat it does yes does it need does it need

Fixing when coaches are getting Mayo baths I mean if we recognize that the B that wasn’t even Mayo that was that was White Water let’s uh let’s be quick to point that out so ball season’s funny to me because after they all nearly killed Beamer that first year knocked

Him on the back of like I get it now like yeah just dump the white colored water on the otherwise way too heav consistency was way too heavy ority was a problem or just get the guy who plays Reacher on Amazon to be the one who

Lifts the entire thing and then dump it on somebody because he’s a big dude here’s my here’s my frustration when we talk about bulls I think everybody goes into the season into bull season understanding what they are in this day and age The rosters are in complete flly because of the opt outs

And everything else the coaching staffs can be in flux too yeah because of guys going to different jobs or guys getting fired or leaving for other schools XYZ we all understand it’s holiday programming too like it’s just they exist and ESPN owns a lot of these Bulls

Because they know all but like two they know that you’re gonna watch them because you’re stuck at home and you’re not really doing anything I mean that’s that’s what I did this past weekend right so if we all recognize they’re just glorified exhibitions then why is

It that so many people are mad when their team loses now if you’re coming at me from the like you know what I wanted to watch Dave Dorne eat a mascot okay cool I wanted to see ma Brown get dumped mayonnaise on him okay I get that like

My brother is texting me pissed because he was at the Pop-Tarts sport in Orlando pissed at that game why man why it’s it it’s almost like you can’t have it both ways that being being said I do think there are some things you can ultimately take away from the various

Bowl games let’s start with the Wolves shall we since I’m on the topic of the of the Pop-Tarts Bowl NC State is kind of like how I am this time of the year when I look in my closet and I see those old siiz 34 Salvage jeans that I picked

I mean I I I spent good money dear Lord exactly exactly exactly I spent good money I spent good money on those 10 years ago and I always think you know what i’mna I’m I’m to get back in those 34s that state with the 10th win I’m

Going to do it this is it this is our chance here we go it’s only happened once in 118 years which my brother appropriately wore that Gator bll sweater that I gave him as a thrift gift a couple years ago back right yeah but that’s still just a fun trivia fact

That’s still the last time NC state has won or the only time NC state has won 10 games it’s been told to me that they people who work at NC State really really really don’t like it when I say this but it is true yeah NC State can’t

Have nice things they can’t and I dedicated the the law of the wolf podcast with JC Zol to this entire topic but it’s true and I’ve talked about this before from 2018 when Dave Doran himself said we can handle when people doubt us when people tell us we stink we can

Handle it he he goes the second we’re happy though we can’t handle it we can’t handle being happy handle success so how’s that going to play the next year that’s what that’s his number one job yeah because he has proven now he can Scramble with it with the best of them

He can cockroach with the best of them but you have to you have to now prove that you can handle some expectations that you can handle success that you can handle people talking and saying nice things about you and not just turning some imaginary slight from Steve Smith

On a different Channel while you’re on the CW like watching our year interview I completely forgot that he had called out Steve Smith while he was on the CW and Steve Smith was on like hours before like what are we like these are the mind games these are the mind games that they

That they play and he successfully can do so now the next step for state is to figure out how to handle success because their schedule next year is after that Tennessee game is super manageable super manageable and there’s no reason they shouldn’t be in Charlotte next year for

The ACC Championship Game speak speaking of Charlotte that gets us to UNC again same situation no Drake may I don’t think anybody on the UNC side though expected them to win the football game with with the players that they had they had see the thing about state was they

Really only had one guy opt out they had what wion now he was super important well was funny you know I was looking at the Box cour because I I was I was in the mountains and I kind of paid attention to the NC State Kansas State

Game watched some of the highlights I looked at the Box SC you know the biggest thing that stuck out to me and that’s where that one player factors in you know what stuck out to me turnovers turnovers yep NC State was I think 13th in the country in turnover margin at

Plus7 okay that’s in the UNCC win they had three turnovers they play they played a very specific way in that five-game winning streak and they basically did none of those things really until the second half defensively and by the they gave up 21 points in the

First half it was too much so and turnover margin can be a very fleeting thing but it’s not lost on me that your key driver of a lot of those things was missing in that game that was and that was the real reason that your and some

State fans and others would be mad Kansas state had 18 guys not playing including their quarterback you called it not that quarterback 18 guys not playing they had like a new coordinator you called it before we left and it was like still like wait a minute why do you

Guys have like the organized ones and NC State doesn’t so I guess that’s why I think Carolina when you don’t have Drake maid and yeah you have some of the issues that they’ve had I mean the the issue with and I don’t think that final score was indicative for Carolina of the

Game itself here’s the issue with Carolina if we’re looking big picture if for workshopping things going for right where’s this all going for the heels yeah where is it all going that’s that’s the problem that I think Carolina football fans have right now with ma Brown where’s this going man because you

Had a couple cracks at it with Drake May and it’s it’s almost like look I don’t want to I don’t want to turn this into like banging on uh on m brown but I do think that regardless of who your defensive coordinator is this is just

Kind of who you are under m brown and uh Chris over at dagam box scor has put this together and it’s it’s again it’s it’s indicative of a Mac Brown UNCC team and what it’s going to be remembered for unless they just shock the world next year when they play in September and

October they are plus 185 in point differential from 2021 through 2023 but once they get into November and December over the last three years they are minus 105 in point differential 4 and 10 in the months of November and December so as he puts it and a lot of Carolina fans

Are also uh put it and something I completely understand and why I ask where is this all going when m brown dis and you know this bothers me it’s bothered me all season when M Brown dismissively says things like well you know seven wins eight wins is pretty

Good for a round here no that’s not the expectation you set number one when you came back number two if you were to tell most NC State in North Carolina fans hey man you’re going to have an eight- win season with a chance at nine you’re

Going to have a nine- win season with a chance at 10 I think most people go okay cool I think most people go like that quarterback though well that’s where it gets it’s also in who you beat like NC State right NC State seasons have been completely rewired based on how they’ve

Gotten to that record and who they’ve beaten to get to that record which includes beating and embarrassing North Carolina when North Carolina gets to eight wins it happens because they start out hot people get all worked up and then it just falls out from them and it

Shows a lack of toughness from UNC which again gets to ma Brown how we and I don’t want to belabor the whole Signing Day thing where he decided that’s the spot where he wanted to call out Dave Doran but that’s where I think Carolina football fans are right to look at

What’s going on with m brown go what are we doing here man what’s next you’re going to be about what’s the future of this program look like thanks for coming back and resetting things thanks for getting the hype train back with North Carolina but we kind of know what you

Are right now and that’s not good enough for a lot of fans and I don’t blame them yeah from from the game specifically I I did like the cut of Connor herrell’s jib I mean he he missed some throws but I thought like super athletic I thought he moved around

Really nice and you put that with amarian Hampton next year like a full package deal I they they have a chance now but what’s that chance to be it’s probably you know a seven eight win team and then you look at their schedule next year they they somehow avoid all of the

New teams which is weird they don’t play Stanford Cal or SMU next year yeah at all that’s weird to me um so they have a bit of a classic schedule the game that’s going to be interesting for me and we’ve seen this before with Carolina especially early in the season you talk

About how they like to build momentum sure keep an eye on this one they play James Madison the third week of the year next year now you might think oh James Madison they’re still a one doua team or this or that James Madison’s pretty good and this has South Big South Florida

Energy to me I got the year where Bunning finally got fired yeah where they were like okay there’s nobody here at the game it’s a noon game the build the Stadium’s empty and we’re getting run out of the gym by a smaller you know Conference

Team that has potential to be a game to Circle and and be worried about next year for them but yeah I mean the way that they’re they’re constructed they could they could have this the same record next year they could they could go eight and four next year but again

It’s it’s who you beating along the way you also don’t have a well you know you don’t have an NFL quarterback you don’t have a guy who everyone’s goingon to have warm and fuzzy memories about either so that’s where they we had a big discussion in in the G4 like was this

Year successful for NC State it’s like well yeah well they they won nine games again it’s like yeah well they do that all the time it’s like okay well maybe what’s wrong with that state but it’s what you said about the wins and who they were over and it was also it also

Has to do with the expectations right like I don’t think it’s the right way to choose the ACC coach of the year because we do that all the time hey I thought this team was going to stink now you’re you’re we thought you were gonna

Suck but that is one way to look at a season to go down this team just just as Alabama was limited yeah this State team was pretty limited so for them to beat Clemson and Carolina for the second time in three years beat wig fors to and to

Win at wig no it doesn’t end the way you want it to end but I would argue that’s because you know pton Wilson didn’t play in that football game he was so much a part of who they were of course like it’s really hard you take them out of

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And from Florida State’s perspective and what it all meant right I don’t think that them getting run by Georgia in any way shape or form crystallizes an argument about whether they should have been included in the college football playoff no there there was nothing to be had from game this is

A classic case of multiple things can be true at once all right the result of the orange bowt in my opinion does not change the calculus of Florida State being in the col they should have been in the college football playoff in my opinion they should have been okay the

Games are supposed to matter right you went undefeated and you if you start getting into the Vibes and the semantics of well you’re quarterback and this and that I mean For Heaven’s Sake Michigan might win the national championship based on defense and not a great quarterback right anyway and while I understand when

You’re told the games do not matter and we’re snubbing you from the college football playoff I do not blame a single player for opting out even the backup quarterback saying I got a transfer this is when the window’s open that’s that’s the part of it that’s broken is this

This the calendar calendar stupid you make fun of me for doing some Tarantino esque editing sometimes on the podcast college football’s calendar is a Tarantino movie yeah like the end is at the beginning in the middle happens in the three like it’s the strangest thing

And that’s where you have to fix it with the way the calendar works out said dead baby s’s dead whose Chopper is this but here’s where I think I’m you tell me if I’m I’m off base Here Wanting this I would have loved it if Florida State doubled down in the way

That Georgia doubled down to make a point I would have loved that if Florida State went out there everybody played and they were going for 14 and0 that they were going to beat an SEC Championship caliber team Georgia that they were going to walk out of there claiming a national title

Saying we belonged you left us out look at what we just did to Georgia we are national title contenders make up the t-shirts have Ronda santis throw a parade for you because you know he’d be down for the clicks so you do all these types of things right I I’m disappointed

That that’s how they went about it I get why they quote unquote quit but I would have liked it had they had gone in and doubled down on it they had three choices and I think either of the first first two would have been right they

Made the wrong choice yeah so there are three choices do not play in the football game if you if you weren’t going to show up literally do not show up just say we’re 13 and0 you left us out this is the NIT we’re not going to

The NIT you have a president we’re not playing number two you go all balls in and you say hey we’re going to do what you just said we’re going to come out here we’re going to show you and then they pick number three they they half

Asked the thing they took a half measure and they got embarrassed and quite frankly it was George’s backups for three quarters of that football game that you know Kirby smart as we’ve said before he he he ain’t one to mess With ‘s Avenue now we’re getting into some drink tossing I can feel it in my you can feel it in your plums now before we get to drink tossing uh big thanks to Hometown realy check them out online myhr.com you just got done with your own holiday speedrun and you’re going man

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This Florida State lawsuit to us dude we got time okay we got time we have all the way until August no we got time I get that part there’s so much time we’ll spend some more time talking about it tomorrow because uh yes I do have some

Thoughts on what’s going on with Florida State and the ACC but we definitely have thoughts when it comes to the Carolina Panthers having an absolute noow against the Jaguars now the Jaguars are still playing for something even without Trevor Lawrence who was out with an injury but every time you think man this

Season can’t get any worse for the Carolina Panthers they find a way to make things worse it’s one thing to get shut out by the Jaguars on the road after so many people had been optimistic about the direction of Bryce young what they showed in a lost to Green Bay they

Felt good they had the warm fuzzies after dragging a victory over the Atlanta Falcons who have their own issues they have to resolve so the way they played with just a just nothing nothing to be optimistic about coming out of the Jaguars game is one thing but when the owner of the team

Decides to make an ass of himself in public on the road well we’ve hit a new level of bottom for the Carolina Panthers I again I I find myself I’m repeating myself with a theme of the day was speedr running I feel like David teer is doing the um add water like

Instant mix of how to become the most clowned owner in the NFL like all right yeah we lost Snider we don’t what we got you know rip Jerry richson you know like okay okay like I I mean what’s funny is that not that we know of teer hasn’t

Done anything on the level of Dan Snider right you know he hasn’t done anything on the level of J Richardson he hasn’t even been popped with bags of cash and various other things in his car like Jim Mer but David terer continues to position himself as the guy that you go man

You’re are you that guy really and that extended itself with tossing a drink I had assumed this game was at home when when the initial reports had come out yeah and I was like oh that’s weird and then when I saw it was on the road I’m

Like why are you going to the like all the owners go to the games man they all go somebody needs to sit this guy down Joe somebody needs to sit this guy down so here is um here is this is somebody taking a video from another suite and

I’ve been in Jacksonville on New Year’s that’s nowhere you need to be just stay home man you want to go watch the game at home you don’t want to go to the Hard Rock on on the River Front no that’s not that’s not the move that’s not the move

Don’t ever forget our friend Mike Kelly got the Super Bowl two Jackson I know okay I know he did that was a big deal one of the Great accomplishments a huge accomplishment of the last 100 years and I’ll never forget Tony corn because it ended up being cold in Jacksonville too

It wasn’t like your stay on the boats and it was brutal and and Tony corn Heiser on PTI just Clowning the entire existence of the Super Bowl in Jacksonville so here let’s let’s let’s start let’s do a little let’s do a little breakdown if you’re watching on

YouTube first and foremost you got Scott fiter the general manager sitting there Hands In Pockets which is very symbolic of Scott fitterer’s tenure as the general manager of the Carolina Panthers so far just kind of like yep did some things not really working out but I’m

Not really worried about my job so uh the you know we got the footage clearly they got some level of security there I don’t know something’s being said and then there’s there’s David teer David teer does the the water toss the fans clearly upset that the water’s been

Tossed at him so he climbs up and starts looking into the suite to see who did it there’s a little flourish did you see the little flourish from David terer like the hand flick a club Twirl in golf look look at the flick of the wrist what

Does he think he’s like what is he Klay Thompson out here just like wrist up like here we go right yes to your point it’s a it’s a golf flick right is he throwing that at a Panther fan or a Jaguar I think he throwing at a Jag or

Allegedly throwing at a jaguars fan here’s the thing stay home watch the game from home man you don’t need to be there that is some Bravo reality show sequence right there that is some Bachelor Bachelorette there’s drama the cat memes the woman yelling at the cat yelling at the cat

Like how dare you that is behavior that I expect out of a reality show out of people that are there to make a scene that is behavior that I would expect out of desper Housewives my toddler CH my toddlers when they were strapped to the high chair and didn’t like the meal and

The only way that they could protest the fact that they didn’t like the meal Jackson absolutely did that dud dude classic case of I don’t like this every like if you if you’re a parent you know exactly what I’m talking about I don’t expect that out of an

Owner so I’m watching this and it’s like I almost feel like we should do a meeting with David terer in the way that he would do a meeting with himself and and and Frank Reich and everybody else who comes in and like I need you to work

On his footwork so right off the bat I don’t like David terer decision-making here if this were an RPO why did you choose to pass in this situation you should have kept the cup and run back with it that was the moveie you were supposed to make not throw

That’s poor decision- making from an owner and then there’s the footwork you just backpedaling on that cut you could have fallen over you should turn your body over completely and then make the ex to then go to the team and complain about being shut out all these were very

Very amateur moves by the owner a much like Robert Craft would never have done that Robert Craft would have actually wait a minute Robert Craft would do other things in the Privacy not in public display but regardless that’s not what a veteran owner would do I need I

Need more it’s like quarterback like Lamar Jackson I need ownery from David teer in this regard didn’t like it do we want to talk about how many different ways they screwed up the offseason dude we have is this Lamar Jackson thing just like we have like I I can’t forget our conversation with

Certain Colts fans who are like no he’s not good enough yes Lamar Jackson’s gonna Lamar Jackson’s gonna go out there and win the MVP one of the great Fu tours of all time yes love it and remember never forget never forget that teams including the Carolina Panthers

Went out of their way sent out releases we’re not interested we’re not interested okay it’s called collusion yeah it is yeah it is have you have you seen some of this coat riding in the the NFL media Illuminati For What It’s Like I think it’s Rich eyes and was like everyone who

Keeps saying nobody wanted Lamar Jackson you have it all wrong the Ravens we’re going to match any offer and it was like what are you talking about right now like they absolutely low balled him yeah and look I get it I think it was I think

It was Peter King finally was like hey here’s what the breakdown is he is injury-prone they weren’t going to give him a Deshawn Watson type contract Lamar wanted the guaranteed money like that ultimately ended up working out but it’s like no you can’t rcon that all like

Even the Falcons think about the Falcons and their wing te freaking offense what they would look like with Lamar Jackson yes like oh no no we have no we’re we’re good with Desmond Ritter and Taylor hinek guys come on let’s be honest with ourselves you asked the you know you can

Asked the question can things get any worse for the Carolina Panthers is this the bottom for the Carolina Panthers uh and David terer tossing this water at a fan the fact that they haven’t said anything by the way like in classic David terer fashion they’re gonna act

Like it never happened sure which is bizarre to me the NFL is aware of it I wouldn’t be surprised if they end up getting a he gets a fine but what’s a fine to David terer at this point in time the F should be you’re not allowed

To go to the road games please just stay home dude right so this isn’t like for the number one seed in the NFC take the Chicago Bears right Chicago Bears Justin Fields he’s getting they’re getting the chance we want Fields meanwhile the Bears are in position thanks to the Carolina Panthers

And their decision to go up and get Bryce young to maybe not even take a quarterback because they might they might double down on Justin Fields yeah which is not something that we thought about at the beginning of the season but that’s what this year was all about with

The Bears and Justin Fields does he look like to Tong of violo and the Miami Dolphins we’re going to give the opportunities to show if you are the guy and then we can build around you I could see a similar situation happening in Chicago with Justin Fields going forward

Especially you throw Marvin Harrison Jr on that team and you’ve got quarterbacks coming down the line KB Williams Drake May Michael penck Jr there’s any number of QBs that people are going to be really excited about this off season one of those guys could have been for the

Carolina Panthers given how the year has gone oh you me number one overall yeah number one overall or even number two even number two they’re they’re because this quarterback class is better than last year’s quarterback class I just hope they figure out that they need a a

Hard reset on offense I hope they understand that yeah and obviously you try it with Bryce young you probably give them the next two years but clock’s already taken on them agree agree every time we talk about the Carolina Panthers brought to you by graffiti check them out in downtown

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Make it happen make it happen to the NFL you mentioned Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens and what they did to the Miami Dolphins I mean they’re on some kind of heater they are I think I think we can all agree that going into the going into week 18 as we start

Looking at legitimate Super Bowl contenders it is the San Francisco 49ers who are going to do their best to keep Christian mcaffrey off the field over the next three weeks because they need him healthy oh okay yes so you got the San Francisco 49ers and you got the

Baltimore Ravens they’re going to be going in as the top teams the hottest teams the teams that everybody believes will be in the Super Bowl everybody’s off the Eagles including me mhm I had that one wrong you got there I finally got there with I mean losing to Arizona

The way the Eagles did with stuff still to play for come on like they they have losing the Super Bowl is a thing that can wreck a team man and it’s looking like they’re a oneandone situation please tell me you’re going to mention the Masterpiece that was the Saturday

Night game between the Lions and the Cowboys tell me that wasn’t an alltime clinic in teams adopting the personality of their coaches yeah you got the classic Mike McCarthy as we’ve come to know and love from the Dallas Cowboys and why nobody can trust them and then our guy Dan Campbell tripling down

Tripling down on trying to win the game at one point like yeah man go out there and win the game oh you got screwed you know what just take the points get to oh you’re gonna do it again okay all right you got bailed out you got bailed out

Penalty they moved you back up just just kick the field goal man just go no you’re doing it again you’re doing it again and they end up losing that game the wild thing about two-pointed play is is everybody practices one yes and you can tell they had practiced that one

They had it ready to go it was in the chamber they were ready and then it was like uh-oh we even out we fooled the referee we tricked the refere doing it again that’s when you’re like uh I might not have another one of these now In

Fairness on the one that ultimately faed the guy was wide open yeah wide just made a bad throw and also the ref screwed I mean there was so much wrong so there it was a triple play if you will the refs the coaches everything was classic Dan Campbell like and it was

Classic lions energy and it but Mike McCarthy somehow getting away with the gross mismanagement of the clock again and I I will just point this out to you as people get hot about the Cowboys and they and now that’s cooled offs in their subsequent losses these last few weeks

But it’s like think about it just just think about this and you again you just read it to yourself and you think about it there has never been a coach in the history of the National Football League to win the Super Bowl with two different teams do you really think Mike McCarthy

No is going to be the first to do it he’s not going to be the first to do think that’s going to happen two other notes about the NFL before we get to some he joke questions this is where you’re going to talk about the bills

Isn’t it we’ll close on that okay the Chiefs have we not do we all not recognize what’s going on with the Chiefs right now at this point they won their division cool why are you starting the Year this way why are you making me feel so good

About myself no no no no don’t feel good see this I knew you were going to do this I set you up and you gave me exactly what I was looking for you’re out here you’re out here like trying to take a Victory lap like see I told you

About Tyreek Hill what did the Chiefs do last year what did the Chiefs do last year without Tyreek Hill they got super lucky they won the Super Bowl last year and the amount of doofuses including you that are trying to take a Victory lap like see I told you this is what happens

When you move on from Tyreek Hill they won the damn Super Bowl you’re going to miss me they don’t okay they don’t they might miss Eric benmy they might miss him but here’s here’s what I’m curious about with the Chiefs and they’re pulling it out of their ass right now

Who’s to say they don’t continue doing that in the playoffs because I’m not gonna count out Patrick Mahomes no they they have one more they have one good half of football left in them let’s see when it is they have good defense they excellent defense and if the wide

Receivers can stop doing dumb things the world is their oyster speak speaking of reading paragraphs I think it was Peter King and I was reading the how they won the Super last year and it was like because Sky Moore caught this pass and because cadar is Tony and I’m like I

Mean the ey roll for me was like mvs Sky Mo when mvs Tony you know what it reminds me of it reminds me of the Carolina Panthers getting to the Super Bowl that year it’s like phly brown Man Ted get me a catch and then they got to the Super Bowl like

Oh there okay there there we go there he is I think that’s actually what’s kind of happening with the Chiefs this year it’s like hey man the defense is good you still have Patrick M like that’s a great comp there great shout out to all the supposed football

Knowers who break down all 22 film and they tell me oh you’ve never played the game tell me you don’t watch the Chiefs without telling me you don’t watch the Chiefs all going is uh is Taylor schol the reason why uh the Chiefs are yeah oh slow CL guys he’s distracted yes yes

Please that you want to talk about blatant clout chasing invoking Taylor Swift is the reason why the find themselves in this case yeah guys maybe it has something to do with their wide receivers which gets us to game 272 the last game of the regular season between the Buffalo Bills and the Miami

Dolphins oh nice the the Dolphins who just lost Bradley chub yeah on top of Jaylen Phillips already yeah yeah yeah but I don’t think what’s funny well I know your point about the Dolphins and defense what happened to the Dolphins and the Baltimore Ravens is yet another

Example of Mike McCarthy and scheme him up stay on script when things are going for you it all works out McDaniel yeah when when it’s hot it’s hot when it’s hot it’s hot and it started out that way it looked like we were just GNA get fireworks throughout that entire game

But then the Baltimore Ravens did a good job of going oh oh okay we see what you’re doing and they adjusted and they got the Dolphins off track and once they get off track and they have to play from behind I just do not trust the Dolphins

You couple that with the fact that Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills absolutely love sticking to sticking it to the Dolphins and this is somebody who grew up going to those 90s Dolphins bills games with Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas Hall of Famer after Hall of Famer

Sticking it to the Miami Dolphins and I have a feeling it’s gonna happen again uh Tyler Dunn who’s done a really great job of covering the Buffalo Bills this year with the Shawn McDermot piece and everything else pointed this out and I’m like o this is this is not good this is

Not good for the uh for the Miami Dolphins Josh Allen is 9-2 Lifetime with over 3,000 passing yards 31 touchdowns five interceptions and another 571 yards rushing with five scores against the Dolphins just something to keep in mind this week I’m looking up the be the

Bills uh Super Bowl odds for you however here’s great here’s where your mistake is there’s one thing when they do it to the Dolphins much like we saw in week four this year although these are completely different teams I would argue that the bills are Fool’s Gold after

They drubbed the can the Cowboys and you dubb them the team you don’t want to face in the playoffs I reminded you they might not even make the playoffs it’s still in play right still in play number one number two on their way to being

That team they have not Lo since the the Cowboys game they have not looked like that Squad that you dubbed the team you don’t want to see in January they beat teams led by Easton stick and bayy zap and they were up and down games where they were relying on defense and trying

To balance it on the Run game now it looked great against the Dallas Cowboys where they absolutely mashed them up front but you even called that a scheduled loss for the Dallas Cowboys I eight to one by the way for the bills I would not trust the Buffalo Bills at all

At all based on what we’ve seen over the last couple of weeks and it’s going to happen they’re going to beat the Dolphins and people are going to be like oh here we go here we we go and it’s like you haven’t really watched you haven’t really watched the bills over

The last couple of weeks I think we want collectively we want to root for the bills because we just want them to win something sure I get that like you know between the bills and the Browns you know how this ends right I just hope they don’t play each other because then

It’s like okay now one of them has to lose you’d rather have the Heartbreak of like Mahomes is dead the Chiefs are dead and then he beats the Browns or he beats the bills and you’re like now in defense of the Miami Dolphins I’ll I’ll I’ll give him this

Before my dad decides to text me in the middle of the show the Dolphins have done a good job of bouncing back from embarrassing losses yeah uh and I can see them they are 71 at home this year and I can see them bouncing back they seem unbothered by those types of losses

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To see that and then yes you mentioned a lot of people that were watching us on Christmas Day Christmas trees yeah are the best the YouTube was up you guys follow miracle I loved seeing all of that it was great to see there was a lot

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Knocked it out of the park with uh with that hoodie so uh I was really excited to see that what else do we have here we have oh yeah we had uh we had some bomber jacket action we got Mark Andrew wood with the bomber jacket where’s our

Is a nice bomber jacket where’s our Joe Wagstaff action where’s Joe let me see if I can pull up Joe real quick Joe his wife is the one who got it for him he’s got the bomber jacket look at the smile on his face like I’m not Saying we also again we had the double we had Christmas day with hoodie Alex and Jess with the hoodie watching the show love to see that Bey but most importantly Joe it’s finally here yes time to unveil the kitten of the month are you ready I am ready 202

January starts with no no this this the leadup because you got to do that what do we have in this I don’t know anything about cats so you tell me what kind of cats those are they’re cute cats they’re cute and fluffy cats I have no idea what kind of

Cats they are but uh I’m allergic just looking at the cats but they’re cute getting Sneezy over there already starting to itch okay so we’ll see I’ll tell you this though once we get to the orange cat page I might get a little emotional need some alone time I might

Need some alone time tog about my guy Roy but right now that’s some fine looking Fel lines right there and we get to enjoy them throughout the entire month of January beautiful very excited about that love it we’ll see you all on Wednesday