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00:00 – Intro
02:00 – Michigan perfect champ for final 4-team CFP
15:00 – Housekeeping
19:00 – N&O’s Luke DeCock
39:30 – Bomani Jones
1:01:30 – Hey Joe

You know what I’ve you know what I’ve noticed about the numbers on the podcast um I haven’t looked carpool man ear early well no days like today I know the numbers are going to be off oh because the carpol because the carps because W County shout out to W

County it’s fine I don’t care but now well I mean I knew that in radio too like hello that’s how you used to listen right yes carpool you were carpool gang we should probably come up with some sort of t-shirt or bump a bumper sticker that’s what we need we

Need a bumper sticker that says like carp carpool gang yeah right that sounds like something to do but yeah shout out to everybody who listens in the carpool because that’s what actually helps our numbers out in a big way poor children haven’t listen to us well you

Told me to limit my swearing well I think we’ve done a better job of that actually resolution it’s actually worked out I’m not hitting my New Year’s resolution of shorter shows though that’s the problem um Michigan Luke Bo Hey Joe we got a he Joe question about Aaron Rogers I’m just letting you

Know it’s a Hey Joe question I’m not bringing it up on my own I’m just letting you know start a new one also did you pay for parking I did all right on it early should probably do that all right let’s go do it let’s podcast alongside Joe jilo I’m

Joe OAS inside eford Studios downtown Raleigh thanks to Empire properties and thanks to copers plus check them out online at copers plus.com I wonder if Jim Harbaugh throughout this entire season when he missed six games due to two different suspensions he printed everything out laid it all out for his

Guys here you go does sound like something he would do oh it absolutely is something he would do so if you need to leave a game plan for your National Championship winning team hit up copers plus and they’ll just print it all out and they’ll probably help you save money

Too again check them out copers dpl.com so Michigan did it they they gave I actually find Michigan winning the last four team college football playoff to be fitting because Michigan did give us what we love about college football in all of its forms controvers

Mery we had the debate of you know is it a tainted Championship is it cheating is he going to go to the NFL just how good is the Big 10 when they’ve been stacking up these defensive numbers against Bad Big 10 offensive teams I mean it really

Was Michigan was a perfect avatar for what we love about college football which is really dumb hyperventilating arguments about the sport Fair Point um I would argue though that that the SEC it was kind of weird last night it was weird it was kind weird last night I

Enjoyed it actually I I I thought the game was competitive I thought it was interesting uh but I did find myself thinking it was Georgia should should this have been so you finally came you you came around oh you came around to my point last week when I when everybody was

Arguing about Florida State right yeah like oh Florida State belonged you this actually I don’t know if they’re the four best teams and yes I get the the whole point of well if they wanted to be in they shouldn’t have lost to Alabama well you know Florida State won all

Their damn games and they were left out for quote unquote reasons you can put a on loss team in there we’ve seen it before a team that loses their championship game and then goes on to win the whole thing so to your point there was some elements of I would have

Liked to seen Georgia in this situation they beat the teams who are put in front of them and also it’s not fitting because the alpha now and the Omega from the playoff era the four team era Ohio State wins the first Michigan wins the

Last the only two for the Big 10 uh but no I I said from the jump I said from the ECU game Michigan was the best team in the country they had I think they were I think they were I think they would have beaten Georgia this year

Because their skill was better this year and defensively this game was won defensively Michael penck had an outstanding season he should have won the Heisman Trophy but he struggled and the reason he struggled last night was because Michigan’s defense and their their front made them struggle their secondary was

Really really good and and there was some holding and there was some pulling and there was some pushing and the ACCC officiating I thought for 95% of the game was in the pandemic rules I mean we were on full on pandemic rules people people were mad that there was no ACC

Representation in the college football playoffs well we got it you got it we got ACC officiating there was one suspect I mean for the most part they let everything go until the one suspect hold that they called on Washington on the Deep shot when it was 20 to 13 and

But penx I thought I mean he gutted through that thing number seven their running back gutted through that thing for Washington yeah good team skilled through the gills but I thought Michigan controlled the front and that’s how you that’s still in in 2024 how you win football games you control the line to

Me it was very much what Michigan’s been all year and when you start to if you started to pay attention to Michigan from like the Penn State game off I think most people did I think it’s yeah I think that’s probably the line of they didn’t really give you a reason before

Because their schedule was garbage other than you know what’s Jim Harbaugh doing today was he suspended was he not right so from the Penn State game on if that’s how you paid attention to Michigan what you saw last night was very much what we’ve seen out of Michigan this entire

Run they’re going to win on defense you watch them run the ball in incredibly well skill players on the running back incredibly well and then because it’s Jim Harbaugh they start doing stuff that makes you gow why are you doing that well Jim harball is he is he doing one

Of those weird like smelling salts the nervous bird he’s doing smelling salts and all of a sudden you’ve got his brother coming up on the sideline what what has happened it’s like chaos all the time with Jim Harbaugh and I think sometimes they invite that where they get away from what’s clearly working

Only to then wear the other team down up front and then they finally either find a way to win like they did against Alabama the week before or they just wear Washington down like they did last night so it was a very Michigan game under Jim Harbaugh now the question is

Is Jim har Jim Harbaugh GNA be back for another crack at this with an expanded college football playoff field we’ll get to that in a second I also think it’s interesting too that you mentioned Michael penick’s battling through these things I because I’ve seen this news cycle happen multiple times Michael

Penck went from there’s your Heisman Trophy winner did you vote for him I did okay which I totally get there’s your Heisman Trophy winner oh should have been or should have been to well you saw what happened when he faced a real defense a defense that’s going to be

Similar to what he sees in the NFL when he’s pressured because you mentioned the secondary absolutely right the Michigan secondary is way better than Texas way better than Texas’s secondary and they basically put penck in a position where it’s like fine throw it up see what happens and because of the pressure

There were a lot of throws that again not that I spent a lot of time watching Washington football but there were a lot of throws that were high and a lot of that had to do with the fact that Michigan was doing a really good job of speeding Michael penck up and forcing

Him to make some of these there were some drops and you know there were some it was an uncharacteristic performance of from Washington’s offense I I I’ll say that but it’s really hard to play a perfect game which they basically did against Texas and repeat that so good

For Michigan uh boam Beckler never won the national title for all of the reverence that they have for both Shen Beckler up there he never did it this is Harbaugh’s First Title First National Title or or Super Bowl title so his first championship so good for him um

And now his brother you mentioned that was kind of the highlight of the game was was the Bro sneaking up on him and seeing him on that was cool that was actually pretty cool but then you remember that that John is is the cool one yeah so yeah and then you also saw

Um Tom who married to the sister yeah Tom was in the house man is one of their first cousins too I where was gotman should have been there why wasn’t he he should have been hanging out with uh Derek Jeter and MJ right and Stephen A

Come on why were you not there man but yeah seeing Tom Ken and his wonderful hair was was a sight to see and then I my my favorite joke last night when when John Harbaugh showed up on the sideline that oh the NCAA is gonna surprise drop

More sanctions because you have an NFL coach on the sideline you can’t have that you can’t have that was John Harbaugh delivering a message from Conor Stanley is that what it was yeah did Jim Harbaugh see any of the game because as CJ Z pointed out on social media how the

Hell could Jim Harbaugh see anything through these glasses did you see the halftime the the halftime interview with Jim Harbaugh or did you check out I did not see the halftime in so I put it up on YouTube if you’re watching on YouTube you can see his glasses and Harbaugh

Lives a chaotic life to the point and that’s how I can tell you as a person if you have a little bit of Chaos in your life what do your glasses look like are they smudged to hell are they Dusty do you have one of these on you at all

Times a little my eye doctor okay if you got a come on Darren throw us some money yeah what seriously why how are they not a sponsor let’s go anyway point is if you got one of these on you you’re my people if you don’t and you’re looking

Like Jim harbal with smudged up glasses it makes me wonder what else is your life like I’m not I’m not trying to be judge you I’m just saying they’re little signifiers about people that tell you a lot just by appearances like those glasses then again they might not be

Smudges they could be some new metag glasses and they’re feeding him real time information from Conor Stallions in the stands maybe that’s what it was they were the Google Glass Still rocking those bad boys anyway Big T’s gonna be pretty good next year by the

Way this is true this is true did you uh did you change my billboard or did I change the billboard I did not touch the billboard oh man gotta change the billboard back to copers plus copers dpl.com yeah I know want to give copers plus their proper run one other note

About the college football playoff before we move on and the thing that I found that’s going to be interesting going forward if you’re G to kind of like stretch out this national championship and that that is what do you do how do you view this Michigan Championship with the controversies the

Cont I’ve been making the jokes about Conor stallion I’ve been making jokes about the fact that Jim Harbaugh missed six of these games on his way to a national championship and Harbaugh clearly is thinking about these things because last night he just kind of kept saying we’re innocent we’re innocent

We’re innocent this was not a season where everything went the way you wanted it to there was the off the field issues which we all know about can you talk about the satisfaction having overcome those as well to get to this Point does it make it even

Sweeter can I can I yeah ahead yeah it it couldn’t have gone better exactly how we wanted to go uh to win every game uh the off off the field issues we’re innocent and we stood we stood strong and Tall because we knew we were innocent

And I just like to point that out and These Guys these guys are innocent and and yeah overcome that um it wasn’t that hard because we we knew we were innocent so um yeah that’s uh that’s really what I want to say it went exactly how we wanted it to go it

Went exactly how we wanted it to go so weird so this is the guy who’s going to function in the NFL again I mean I know he did at one point but there’s a burnout fit is for Jim Harbaugh and this works the college level because these guys are cycling

Through and when you’re recruited you know what you’re signing up for it was interesting last night you know to see the full evolution of his offense yeah I think a lot of us remember Jim arbaugh well heck of your are you remember Jim marbaugh as a quarterback yes okay this

Was a guy who Mike dika would just regularly whip okay this was and then you remember at Stanford when he had Andrew Luck and that’s really really where he made his money and their offense was your traditional you know 12 personnel there was a fullback you know

I mean there was you’re look you’re looking at stuff and you’re going all right we got fullbacks and tight ends and we’re under Center and we’re play actioning and a lot of what you see with with the Kyle Shanahan now and Mike McDaniel and now you see this in the

Shotgun with with JJ McCarthy and you see all of the different shifts and you see what they try to do with the different mismatch Miss matches it was an interesting it was interesting to see him kind of update what is offense looks like does that work in the NFL I don’t

Know I don’t know you know McCarthy was an interesting is an interesting player and that he I I said he reminds me a lot of Ryan Mallet in the sense that he he has no touch no he just hammers he throws a heavy ball uh but he’s really

Mobile I could see you know if if hard ball ends up in the NFL I could see him drafting him and using him in the NFL oh that’d be that’s sound some like what tesm hill level thing why would you do that but I could see that I could see

Some of the different things that I don’t know if I’m an NFL owner and Jim Harbaugh says you know what’s your game plan at quarterback I’m like well I’m going to go get my kid I’d be like all right on but don’t forget he was Colin Kaepernick’s coach he’s the one who

Brought Colin Kaepernick in and used them the right way I get that so you know like I said there there’s a different Evolution there for him just watching him be awkward in this press conference I mean the the the awkward chart it would be off the chart if he

Went to work for terer oh please like put the two of them together in a press conference make this happen make this happen and you know you know Jim would be tweaking David teer when he would refer to him as Dave because you know David teer wants to be referred to as Mr

Teer I mean he’s making a 60-year-old Frank Reich say Mr teer that’s how we know there’s my here’s my Lous test for the next coach what do you call him you calling him Dave you calling him Mr teer you call him Mr teer all right we’ll be

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To all you got to do is email the ogos digital gmail.com again the ogos digital gmail.com and yes I did have some fun with techmo Super Bowl Graphics uh I had gone 25 straight days with a Star Wars reference I think that’s pretty accurate

Um you know I got bunch of takes I got my sarcasm level at 69 my snackable content level at 69 which is nice nice and then of course I got you uh with your physical condition being nice you coffee days are infinite nice your B your bow projections I think

This year I’m GNA have to re say your bull projections no it’s my my skill is my skills are gone but your yellow pad form is still at 100 so uh we got that we also had a listener who asked me why you look the way you look and I look

Like a Chad with my glasses I remember who I am I don’t remember who you are oh this was done this was done custom no no no those are players I’m Jimmy Johnson no no no no no no no no no our friend Owen yeah he told me was that a player

Yeah oh thought that was like custom designed a while back no he found the players who looked like us okay so you’re like some punter that they put a glasses on or something no I actually added the beard and the glasses then yeah you did that I did the custom on

Yeah no it’s you’re some punter you’re like Tom Tupa that sounds about right I’m Jimmy Johnson the old uh Arizona Cardinals running back that sounds about right or the Phoenix Cardinals in that game I saw our friends over at breaking te are flooding The Zone with some

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Across North Carolina locations across the triangle and as I mentioned with Joe and his coffee intake being infinite he’s got the lifetime refill tumbler yeah dark roast my my Brew of choice yesterday I went to get some coffee and I’m like would you like coffee you’re

Like no I’m cutting back I get to the studio I’m like sir you can cut back on coffee like in the afternoon like cups 2 three and four do not cut back on cup number one and you’re like yeah I already had yeah you gota remember my

Routine is I’m up at 5:45 I make coffee sometimes I make a little extra bring it to the studio that kind of stuff I don’t need another at that because next thing you know I’m essentially evacuating coffee just hook it up to when I E for me please big

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Through the gauntlet haven’t We Joining us on the heaster automotive grou hotline is Luke de columnist news and observer Luke what’s up man I’m just laughing at Joe’s traffic violations something two two decades of getting lawyer recommendations from Joe always always has a stable on on you’re like a politici you got your fixers your Michael

Clayton’s G call The Wolf calling the wol a couple of those yeah yeah probably want me to fix a traffic ticket you want a heads up on a immigration subpena on insider trading I do I do worry when gambling does go legal um if not if we

Need another fixer too I mean it was I know what yesterday or yeah it was yesterday January 8th was officially the first day of sports wagering being legal in the state of North Carolina and a bunch of Outfitters applied for their applications but we still don’t know

When it’s going to be Statewide if I if I remember correctly Luke what we’re dealing with here is you can go to the tribal casinos you can go to like the haris Cher haris Cherokee and use the apps at this point but you just can’t do

It Statewide and when we talked to the governor before Christmas he was hoping March but yeah it’s got to be by June that’s in the law so we know what the window is and yeah you’ve been I I believe you’ve been able to do that the tribal casinos

For since maybe before covid um you know they had a sports betting provision I remember writing about it in 2018 or 19 well the difference is you can they had a sports book they had a Sportsbook now you can use the apps now you can go to

The casinos there and actually use the apps I’m sure as long as they feel that you’re spending money you know buying drinks and hanging out they don’t care um and my understanding is that again anecdotally speaking those casinos that had put in the sports book it was a

Fraction of what they were ultimately making money on yeah it’s not where you make yeah a l leader I don’t know does the one in Danville have the the Trailer Park casino and Danville have a sports book I’ve never been there I I I Jangles and and get my fix in the parking

Lot Jill can you imagine if they open a casino in Danville in 2001 we both would have lost our jobs yes yes all right so here’s my question because I saw last week we didn’t spend any time talking about this but uh the long rumored acquisition of backyard beastro

Was finally announced by the Carolina Hurricanes and what’s what’s Tom Dundon gonna do with that building well I mean it’s going to be a physical sports book eventually Because the actual Sports books that they’re going to build inside and outside the building are going to take time yeah like putting one in PNC

The place they originally wanted to put it was like underneath a catering kitchen and it was going to have like grease dripping through the ceiling so um that’s that’s going to take a little while to figure out where that’s going to reconfigure the building you got you know when the Centennial Authority does

Something you have to put out you have to get three bids by state law I mean that’s it’s a process it’ll happen but it’s process meanwhile pergin are going to build a great big Vegas style sports book with screens and recliners and all that crap um but that’s going to come as

Part of the development around the arena it’ll be in whatever the first phases um you know the first set of construction it may not be in the same location as where the first set of offices are but that like the music venue is a priority item to get steel up

And built but again that’s those agreements aren’t signed yet they still have to be finalized we’ve got a lot of of walking to do before we can run there so the Hurricanes needed a brick and mortar building close to the arena within the whatever the legal limit is I

Think actually from the Hurricane’s perspective you could kind of build anything out to almost the fairgrounds um but this is an easy an easy fix it puts more of the perimeter under their control um and it’ll you know continue to sort of function until they get it actually fully Sports booked but my

Guess is starting with a brick and mortar facility that already has a bar in a restaurant yeah and a lot of TVs you can get a sports gambling facility up and running there probably in like 36 hours with a tiger te you know shut the doors on a Monday morning reopen on

Wednesday night and you know it’s like you know 24-hour reskin so it makes a lot of sense you need to text Tom Dundon Joe you want you we’ve been wondering where we’re going to do our live shows on Thursdays it’s the answer is that not the answer yeah could you function there

Though uh could you actually do a show would you be able to would could you be not not if there’s golf on TV yeah and there are matchups going that you would it would be a oneman band it’s funny I meant to text you Luke because I need to

Work on a credential uh through the USGA and I was like you know lukee has golf golf uh connections and then I was thinking gambling’s going to be legal next year and like I might like trip Denny mcarthy or or do something unusual I mean it’s GNA be legal by the time the

Opens here be bet on the open at Pinehurst in North Carolina so yeah you might have to off property why you gotta go after my God Denny McCarthy you hate guys who can putt that’s your problem so you know what I’m glad I’m glad that I’m scheduled to be on vacation

I’m I’m going out of town that Saturday so he’s your problem Luke I’m just going to leave it at that once once the US Open comes around uh speaking of speaking of problems big four is a problem for everybody in the ACC right now let’s freaking go everything is

Right in the world with Carolina NC State Wake Forest and Duke at top the ACC standings Duke’s in action tonight against pit but of those four I think the one that’s actually been the most surprising has been Wake forc On A niname win streak adding pieces like

Reed players like poopy stepping up the question that I have for Steve Forbes going forward and what we’ve seen so far out of Steve Forbes is is this sustainable with the lack of a defensive identity because that’s been wake’s biggest problem since Steve Forbes has gotten there is being able to

Consistently stop people outscore them all day but you got to stop people at some point I am curious about that going forward yeah I think they’re I I I think you can I think you can be the Iowa of the ACC sort of the anti- Virginia basically say you know like Fran

Mcaffrey I’d rather scream at the referees than teach defense we’re gonna do that at Wake Forest I’d rather you know have funny tweets than teach defense but the reality is with Fon Reed I think that’s this wake team with Hunter Salis with booby Miller with Fon

Reed now in the middle that does give them a bit a little bit of Rim protection so that helps um but I just feel like that’s a team that’s hit it stride moves the ball well I you know if you hadn’t mentioned it I was going to

Say of those four teams of the big four W’s the most compelling one to me because I have no idea what their ceiling is none at all and it may be very very high the caveat for that is and maybe this circles back to your question about defense Steve Forbes has

To get it done at some point you can’t keep Steve Forbes is leading the league and pats on the back uh you know you’ve got AIS Williams you you brought these transfers in they all done really well you had a winning record in the ACC you haven’t and he complains about that and

I get it he’s a character I think that’s important too in that for for People Like Us Steve Forbes represents an ACC that we like yes that much as Josh pner did sort of goofy alien in in his head Josh passner uh so we yeah Steve Forbes

Brings something to the table that other coaches don’t in that he’s outgoing and friendly and he’ll say what’s on his mind and we love that um but he’s got to win something and they haven’t won the non-conference games the last couple years years to put themselves in a

Position to make the tournament I think this year they’re in an okay position they’re going to have to win some ACC games but I also feel like this is a team that can get wake over the top I I I do feel like this is a tournament team

Now with Fon Reed uh but they got to go out and prove it but I think that’s there now can they do it giving up 80 points a night you know said whatever the number is I maybe I mean Iowa’s made a for many years made a a history of

That you know and if you can have a league that has Iowa and Wisconsin in it you can have a league that has Wake Forest and Virginia in it um it’s just two sides of the same point so I I yeah I honestly think of those four at this

Point wake is by far the most compelling of the three in second place I’d say is NC State because I this is a team that I think is actually getting better for all the complaints about you know Kevin Keats and halftime adjustments and the players don’t get better and all the

Crap we hear all the time I think this is a team that shown uh significant progress and and you we talk about UNC winning games it would have lost at pit at Clemson last year State at ordered aim that game was set up for it out and

They found a way to win that one so I I think there’s some positive signs of progress there too could you have guessed before the season that getting more minutes to Ben Middlebrooks was the key or state Michael oconnell and Ben Middlebrooks were the solution to a

Question nobody had asked yet yeah uh but I think what it shows is and maybe this is what state’s been missing the last couple years if you have guys who come in and just set up kind of play hard yeah um you know and they they what

They lack in skill they kind of make up an effort um you know I think okell obviously as you would expect from a Stanford transfer is a really smart player and he kind of settles them down when he’s out there he’s limited he’s a limited player but he settles them down

A little bit and that gives them sort of a a calm that they’ve lacked at times and then you can see the transfers getting better right you can see the the fresh you can see dence Parker getting better um I mean he that kid was motivated to beat Virginia that was

Amazing that was a classic NHL goalie situation playing the former team I what money on the board man he’s got his ni money on the board in the locker room so uh yeah I mean I think the fact that state was able to really kind of almost run up the

Score a little bit on Virginia certainly suggests that there’s some some offensive upside there um so yeah I mean that to me that’s that’s an increasingly compelling team much more than I would have said in November I mean watching them in Vegas as well as they played uh against Vanderbilt against even in

The sort first half against BYU first half and then things obviously got super weird even by NC State Standards um I was kind of wondering okay what like same question is like what’s the ceiling on this team how much better are they really G to get but I think they found

Some things and and uh Jen Taylor’s a really good on the ball Defender and that changes things against teams that rely heavily on one player to have the ball in their hands um Notre Dame you know Marcus Burton incredible player had 18 points but he never really changed

The game when he had opportunities to so they they’ve got some defensive cards they can play too this all goes out the window if they lose to North Carolina on Wednesday so like you talk about pats on the back and XYZ but by less than 51 is

Where I was well there’s the bar there is that although as our friend cherelle McMillan uh who does stuff for inside Carolina I don’t know I guess he decided to just light fire to his mentions uh what was it yesterday I’m gonna I’m gonna bring this Twitter I’m gonna bring

This tweet up on the screen if you’re watching on YouTube he said through 14 games uncc’s free throw rate is 40.2 NC States free throw rate is 29.5 uncc’s defensive free throw rate is 26.2 NC State’s defensive free throw rate is 33.8 UNCC free throw attempts per game

Is 25.2 NC States free throw attempts per game 18.6 six think think this is useful information for both fan bases entering Wednesday night’s game and then he just walked away he was just stating facts Luke just stating facts or as I like to say and a lot of NC State fans

Like to say those are the Tendencies we’ve seen out of both NC state of North Carolina going into the game yeah I someone responded that maybe it was you with the Hubert Davis quotes from the Duke game last year it was Conor it was Conor O’Neal Conor O’Neal yeah which

I’ve actually forgotten about until then um which honestly was one of the strangest post games I remember complain like you know hey we’re we’re supposed to be taking 20 free throws a game here yeah like really weird we came into Cameron and didn’t get calls like that’s has that ever happened before someone

Someone checked the record books like that was a little bizarre but I I do think the point is teams do have styles they do um I would be interesting to know how those numbers change when they’re waited for home and Road um because I think Clemson got to

The line a good bit on uh on Saturday but uh but they did that’s actually how Clemson stayed in the game for that’s how they stayed in the game I mean they were what one of 18 from three but the reason why they were able to stay in

That game until about five minutes to go when they didn’t make a single point not even at the line was they were getting to the line so you know and the good news is whatever happens you would agree though you would agree not to get I I brought that up to be

Silly but you would agree that Wednesday night there is no building in the ACC that sounds like PNC Arena when the call start right what I was just about to say is the good news is we know that NC State fans will react rationally to whatever happens with regard of the

Officiating will be there on I’m sure they will and I I this is my prediction on that front and that front alone it’s been a wonderful season with the new charge rule we’ve seen very little jumping in front of people terrible charage charges I think the officials

Have done a good job implementing it I am predicting the I’m setting the over under at 1.5 on the number of 2023 era charges called against NC State on Wednesday night where a UNC player jumps in front of a state player gets plowed over and they call a charge

Instead of a block on a straight line drive which is what they’ve been calling up to this year to this point uh and you know I’m not going to say which ref I think is going to be involved but I’m going to say that State fans are going

To spend the next week talking about I thought there was a change to the charge rule that’s my yes I thought in general now I’m not I’m not going to sit here and tell you I’ve been as locked in on college basketball as I I’ve normally

Been in general I do think there are there’s a pandemic attitude towards the officiating I think there’s been a lot of let them play particularly that Virginia State game I’m okay with that here’s the thing that’s gonna burn State on Wednesday I can um you say that the

Charge Ben Middlebrooks has this bad habit of trying to tap rebounds yeah and it wasn’t called at all against Virginia and I could see Tony Bennett over there from the fifth floor fuming I think I said over the back like three times yes like fuming and we all know what happens

When Ben mle Brooks breathes on Bott on Wednesday that’s they’re gonna have here’s the flip side to that and I convinced the reason that Kevin Keats went out and got Ben Miller Brooks is so he couldn’t take any charges against DJ burns when they play Clon that’s right

When Armando Bott brushes Ben mle Brooks with his backside as he backs down on the post Ben Middlebrooks is going to go flying into the vanand and it’s just a question of whether the officials bite on that we could be talking next week at this time about how Rond Bott had three

Fouls in the first half yeah is because of uh they called it Titan the post wait is this a that’s a weapon who was the who was the Duke player Patrick davat David he just went out there specifically to give on Chris is that what you’re saying that Ben middle

Brooks is roll no no no no I’m saying that no no no no no maybe yeah if Ernest Ross were healthy no I’m I’m just saying that what we’ve seen when state has played Clemson in the past is Ben Middlebrooks didn’t an outstanding job among Clemson’s other

Big men including PJ Hall who’s 69 280 and goes down like he’s 51 130 they did an outstanding job drawing fouls against opposing post bigs I would like NC State for a change to see if they could be on the other side of that with Ben Middlebrooks bringing some of that Clemson technique

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Me didn’t call me for inspiration like I heard that when that [ __ ] uh Larry Fishburn played Ike Turner he he called Ike Turner to try to like get his Ike Turner right instead I just don’t know they were just like whatever I think the poppy is the worst actually

Like the the poppy there has nothing to do with poppy whatsoever I don’t know why he got a f Man chew I don’t know why he has like perfectly silver hair I don’t know why he isn’t wearing a GU bar I don’t have any anwers to that I also

Don’t know why this D leard person seems to be left-handed judging from the watch but is still pointing with the right hand and then there’s me and I’ve heard people say I look anything like anything like a 2B version of Thomas Jon I’m looking like I said that I look like I

Got I’m wearing that shirt for a job interview that I need so that I could get a job so that I can afford to dress right for a job interview I don’t know like why I don’t know if we can use this term anymore but he got the church

Beater undershirt on oh yeah right it’s the church beater it’s a very important distinction he got the church beater on he down two buttons I would never wear my collar all the way out there like that them sleeves ain’t long enough even though his arms ain’t that long and what

I need somebody to let me know is are we that important in the life of 21 Savage not only did we make whatever this piece of media is going to be we made the trailer too yeah so quick context here you talk to 21 Savage and

If you don’t know who 21 Savage is ask your kids they’ll know who 21 Savage is and this is when you were doing Highly Questionable with Dan levard and poy and I guess it was a meme cuz 21 it was like his appearance on that show became a

Meme because he looked like a super villain is that what it is that what it is yeah that’s what it was I’m pretty sure that if I know my internet the the screen grab that makes the round go look it up it’s like 21 Savage super villain

It looks like he’s about to tell you like the classic Coline is he’s about to tell you all of his plan Before You Escape like that’s I’ve never because I don’t remember anything about that interview whatsoever right all I remember about that interview is thinking dude I don’t even know if he’s

Paying attention to us like he just seemed he just seemed to be like somewhere but it didn’t feel like he was there that’s all I remember I don’t remember anything that was said and every now and then I was see the picture of him from that interview and had no

Context as to why it is that this was a thing yeah so I’m pulling it up right now this is actually look like sow Bob this is from an argument there’s this is from fader and the this was back on God geez we’re old March 8 2017 why does

This pick look like is a super villain interrupting a broadcast to reveal his evil plan to the world TV Interruption Batman has until 12 a.m to bring the es Cape or it’s a doom day you know that kind of wow okay there we go thank you

For solving this for me because I didn’t I never I didn’t think that this was such a thing that it would need to be commemorated in the The Life and Times of 21 Savage well now you know speaking of speaking of things that uh are a

Thing I did not know lank was a thing they I and I you and I had this conversation oh Joe it’s gonna get better so if you’re if you’re tapping out you better tap out now because it’s about to get I’m about to escalate so be

Careful Joe I will be care come on okay come on I do I do so you and I had this conversation last week as to whether or not reys Davis and the crew knew what they were doing when they were reading out what lank meant and you had a very

Important follow-up on your podcast about what it was all about was let all naysayers know so when Rees drops an uh in there I think we all are now hipped to the game are we not yes yes because look man one thing white people know is

Black people have a bit of a device in phrasing with the phrase letter right doesn’t matter what you putting in there let a player know let a player find out let a let a player get something to drink let her like we have all these things that can put put in

There and we all know a word that easily drops itself right in there white people know this stuff too and here’s how I know white people know this stuff too because it didn’t become an internet phenomenon because white people didn’t know what it was I didn’t see a single

White person retweeted saying I don’t get it cuz somebody explain to me what the joke is mhm let a let let let let a Caucasian find out nobody said anything like that cuz everybody including Reese Davis knew exactly what was going on so it’s a wrap now right like if naysayer

Is no longer no no no white people can’t be trusted like that’s the whole thing about it white people want to say the N word so bad and look for any opportunity to get anywhere near it and I just I realized very quickly it was like Hey we

Got to shut this down but did you see during the uh I think it’s a pregame show for the college football playoff where Michael penck had on uh I saw it in the story of they what they call it a clava yeah right had the clava he had the hoodie up the clava

Yeah it was referenced that he looks like a ninja yes yes and Pat mageri says Oh I thought I was staying away from that having a Reese Davis moment and you know what Pat McAfee is in the right on this one yes he should stay away from

Saying he looks like a ninja cuz it could get confusing and that’s white people’s fault but wanting to say the N word so bad that you never know when somebody Howard was like I thought it was about to go down thought about to go down that’s about to go down let a naysayer

Know but it’s let all naysayers know which is very interesting because it totally changes the connotation once it becomes all yes Bo are are you eagerly anticipating the tight end Prospect from the state of West Virginia who’s going to go play here he is for West Virginia

This is where I was going to esate people uh who are watching this um and those who are hearing you may not know about this but it became a thing that there was a young man and we found out his name was Noah his first name Noah

Like the ark and his last name is spelled k n i g g a K N I G G and we didn’t know how to pronounce it and then we did the internet searching because his dad is a coach let bring up his dad

Is his coach and so we Googled it and we found out that it’s pronounced kiga kigga that’s his name Noah kigga which is like in a way I feel bad for him is kind of on the LJ ho situation where like your name is your name and you

Shouldn’t necessarily have to change it just cuz we got jokes but like LJ hoes making his number zero that was a choice right LJ LJ no ho that was his choice this guy is a little different but I think there is a choice because I don’t think that’s how you pronounce his last

Name or they’re about to change it because he was on with Robert from the thir to what he did I’m pretty sure he did a an Instagram live with RG3 he did he did no Robert Robert Robert re never go ahead yeah because he was like oh everyone wants to know everybody wants

To know and they said it was and I wrote it down just to be double sure kega kega yes it’s Noah kega and they said it multiple times okay then we then we going to have to make sure everybody notice right like cuz to be fair I

Didn’t hear his dad say it was kigga I heard dad did say it that way did he say it that way the dad did not with RG3 but okay with RG3 they showed an old clip of the dad being and they said coach kiga I think they’re ready to change it yeah

Yeah yeah yeah time’s up times up It’s gotta be done this is this is kind of like when Anthony Richardson was like yo my number is no longer 15 I will not be AR-15 anymore I will be AR7 like I need to move on from this sort of imagry I

Can’t believe CA look at least the K wasn’t silent cuz then no uh with the silent k that was where we was just like oh man this this too much this too much but yeah he’s uh he’s so excited to be famous that like haven’t heard like

Finally the world found out about this and I need to find out like what the demographics of his team is because he seemed a little too surprised that the world found out where I mean if he operated in a quasi integrated situation he’d have been like yeah I’ve been

Hearing this for a long time now sport athlete I um still but but but Indiana man Indiana it all depend on where you and it’s that South Indiana which by the way I’ve driven a lot of places in an automobile in my time and a lot of

Places in the dark and in a lot of rural places and the only place I was ever like yo I got to get this gas and get the [ __ ] up out of here was in Southern Indiana that was the one I was like yo this they weren watching

I’m not I’m not I’m not well this is a naysay free zone right here everybody’s with the program except for me I will say and I know we’re in an age now thanks to U Shannon sharp Sterling sharp Shannon sharp that we’re supposed to be giving credit to everybody in in the in

The black comedian Community but I saw Cat Williams I saw one black comedian on kiga say are you kidding me he goes that guy they’re going to sell so many jerseys he’s like the state of West Virginia has been waiting for a long n is still going to cat in on are you

Kidding no man this kid going to be in a tough situation right like CU he’s about to be a representative of a lot of things that he doesn’t want to be a part of like wait till wait till they start buying his jersey to put it on something

And to beat it like a pinata but it ain’t got nothing to do with him you know what I’m saying like like like this is this is a this is a tough go the inter this is social media gone wrong it’s good for jokes and then after that

It’s a problem you I think now with social media being so accelerated you have a very tight window for the jokes and then it’s gone and then you’re just going to have to move on to something else before it escalates to a point that’s going to get you in trouble and

Then you need smelling salts like Jim Harbaugh to kind of snap you out of it okay here here we are innocent innocent innocent we talking football Noah by I Noah that makes the best part of it all right Noah your uh your lasting Legacy of the college football playoff four team format

Bman just Ian other than like contributing to the demise of college football yeah I just need somebody to explain to me for all the talk that everybody had of all the excitement about getting a playoff after all this time just tell me what it made better that’s all I want anybody to

Explain to me is has this improved anything did it make championship game weekend any better no did it make rivalry weekend any better no did it make New Year’s Day any better no worse yeah yeah how many memorable championship games have we had 10 three

Yeah it’s and hold on I hear you say that and I’m trying to think of it myself like how many like what are the three that you’re counting like I don’t the Ohio State and there’s the Georgia Alabama championship the T yes those two those two absolutely that’s it

And it skewes what we expect right like I I heard you and Joel Anderson talking about this on R time in relation to Nick Sabin right you know that’s whole like you it’s been three years it’s been Michigan just won their first outright National Championship I think since what

What one war was it I think the Korean War it’s the Korean I want to say it’s 1948 the last time they won it outright which is insane 1997 it was a split and it it reminds you that college football you don’t win a bunch of these you’ve

Got like your one or you two yeah both chanler never won one yeah you know like Miami reason why the Hurricanes there’s a reason why the Hurricanes were such a big deal in the 80s is new money because they were reel they were reeling these things off that that’s just not what

Happened in the modern era right and there were new money too so here’s this Old Money Team you know with everything in the world and you’re think like wow and then meanwhile you got Alabama where 1948 since we’ve now brought it up like eight different times 1948 they’re losing they’re losing their minds

Because it’s been three years and it’s like y’all you you want to go back to how it was before Nick Savin showed back up because it ain’t pretty but it skewed everything but this is the thing I will say because let’s keep in mind they are

Crazy people right like this is not a [ __ ] of the playoff with them this is just who they are um they believe and Spencer makes his point about Ohio State and he’s right about them though in a different way because Ohio State let us not forget their first championship

After widespread integration in college football was in 200 2 they did not win one between 68 and 2002 like once everybody else got black people their competitive advantage had kind of gone away but it didn’t matter because they’re they were competing regionally Bo Shen Beckler like I said couldn’t

Even win a Rose Bowl barely they were competing regionally that was what it was they were going for but Alabama believes and they’re not wrong anybody can win here now can anybody win on the level that Sabin has no can anybody win consistently no but can anybody on Earth stream together

One 10 win season at Alabama history has indicated yes yes they can Mike dubos was able to do it Mike schula was able to do it I believe Ray Perkins was able to do it they believe literally anybody can do it and you know why because they gonna make him do it that’s

Why that’s funny too as and we’ll wrap the conversation on this about how things have been skewed we saw it locally with NC state of North Carolina when you’re reminded that your college football seasons should be reel off some nice wins get to a decent bll and most

Importantly beat your rival you should go home happy right eight nine wins beat your rival go home happy I feel like this was the season where m brown kind of broke a little bit at North Carolina because you got the recruiting in place you have these hot starts you’ve got

These NFL quarterbacks and Sam how well we’ll see how much longer he’s a starting quarterback in the NFL and Drake May we’ll see where he goes in the uh in the upcoming draft and yet you fall off at the end and you can’t beat NC State and it got Mack to do two

Things I never thought would actually happen be dismissive of the area where he’s like hey you know well you know seven eight wins around here is pretty good like whoa I’m not surprised that he did that but that’s that’s that’s a bold thing to say that that that’s what I

Thought too and then on Signing Day in your history of knowing m brown whether it was his time at North Carolina certainly his time at Texas and now let’s return to North Carolina can you think of a time where Ma brown lost a signing day it didn’t not really even when the

Recruiting started to fall off not really he lost a signing day for the first time ever this year because he decided to not take any questions not talk about his class and bring up three four week old news with Dave of Dorne it was wild to me to see this with m brown

Beefing down and he’s coming back and it gets the existential question at North Carolina what are we doing here with Mac how much longer is this going to go at UNC um if here’s the problem that UNCC is going to have I mean it’s a problem if you care about appearances but I

Still would consider this to be a problem okay he’s not going to walk away in a dignified manner that is what you need to understand because the way it ended at Texas and for those of you who don’t remember how it ended at Texas the expectation was especially after they

Like magically beat Oklahoma that year which nobody expected to happen like okay this is 2014 this is 5 years after they went to the national championship game nine years after they won a national championship and the thought was that he was going to retire like

After 09 and then for some reason he had the coaching waiting had the coaching waiting for whatever reason he did not retire they had a terrible season and then must champ the coaching waiting went to Florida and then of course now Mack has to stick around because they

Don’t have a plan anymore but the thought was that he was and there been a few different thoughts on what was going to happen but the thought was that he was going to walk away after the 2014 season and when it was clear that he wasn’t going to the board and everybody

Started getting the momentum together to get him out of there and when they were trying to basically find him to get him out of there he jumped his ass on a plane came to Miami and turned up at Central High School in Miami to recruit Dalvin cook knowing that notably m brown

Is famous for not recruiting Florida while he was at Texas and I called a coach at Central I knew a coach at Central at that time and I said have you ever seen this man he said I’ve been working here 5 years and I ain’t never

Seen him one time ma her they was coming to get him and he ran away from home and went to Florida I’m just telling you he’s not going to walk away walk away in a dignified fashion and it’s probably on the field not going to get any better

Than it is right now but the one thing that M did at Texas when he was losing every year to Oklahoma at least he was beating A&M every year yeah like he managed to give you that much he understands the importance of those things and so the idea that he hits you

Cuz he will he’s very defensive and he will slip out of anything you say but him with the whole eight or nine wins that’s a big you know that’s a pretty big deal around these parts it don’t matter if it’s true Mac it don’t matter you can’t you can’t uhuh and this new

Penny shine off of what you did 25 years ago it’s over baby it’s over yeah it’s over and I’m I’m really curious to see how the boosters in Bubba Cunningham handle us going forward all right man um I’d say the conversation didn’t go too off the rails see told you you could

Handle I can handle these things I know you I I felt confident that you could Joe didn’t you know what I’m saying just Joe wasn’t quite as sure I had to you know I don’t know you got you got your Apple camera on you got the balloons

Going because you up oh that’s what does it so if I go like that yeah if you go like that the Apple camera will do some weird things so you got to be careful about that kind of stuff I don’t know if you want that out there

No that’s why that’s why I did it with two hands two hands two hands two hands right although although you don’t know me it could be the same thing you know what I’m saying you better you better ask these streets and on that not B Joes right

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Right man we’ll talk to you later always love our conversations with bman man speaking of things we could never do on radio take a take a deep breath Joe take a deep breath the actual Reese clip is kind of like Desmond and Joey Galloway are like

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Out of here on some hey Joo questions big shouts to Anthony maybe there’s a special Pizza that Anthony can do now the person who tweeted at you you’re like you know if you syn up the the the podcast at midnight you’ll hear let’s podcast at midnight

And they were like no but what time no would let’s get out of here let’s well yeah you need that at 11:59 59 all right let’s get out of here and into the new year that’s that’s what we need to do uh from Mr Marshall on Twitter David teer

Has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever yeah let’s bring back Ron Rivera and Marty hery shall we they’re both available we’re gonna talk to Mike K of the Charlotte Observer tomorrow morning to get a ball park idea on their GM candidates and head coaching candidates

Since things are now the wild west um and we can spend some more time on the coaching Carousel in the NFL because I don’t know about you Joe but I thought it was interesting that bill belich was almost still wanting to be in New England based on his press conference

Yesterday it was interesting it’s interesting bill bich would have fired Bill bich three years ago but he’s out here like oh you know we’re under his own circumstances we’re GNA talk we’re going to do all these things I was like huh interesting interesting uh from Chris with Michigan winning but the SEC

Still being the best I assume Michigan will be promoted from the Big 10 to the SEC who will be relegated thanks I’ll hang up and listen well it’s always Indiana right oh Indiana’s always gonna well no no no you have to send somebody from the from the SEC downand it’ll be

Vanderbilt because who doesn’t want Vanderbilt Northwestern on the regular yeah yeah That’s Where It’s At that’s where it’s at the ACC I shouldn’t really shouldn’t give the ACC any ideas from Brooks looking forward to your take on a aons cut the [ __ ] for the Jets to be successful next year yeah that was

Delicious he clearly doesn’t care or does he think he is that Superior for mere peasants that the rest of us are it’s not even a hot take how weird he is now right I think now can I talk about this showe am I allowed to talk about

This since it was a Hey Joe question since Brooks introduced it on a technicality yes okay gotcha um shout out to everybody who has at least commended me for saying man you were right about Aon thank you I appreciate that it’s he’s pretty easy to figure out

Because I think we’ve all known guys like that in our walks of life but what I find wild is that Aaron Rogers was listed as or he was elevated to like the most inspir like the team awards at the end of the year did you see this he

Was he was tab the most inspiring player for the Jets by by the team okay and somebody pointed out I think it was Nick Wright um who had pointed this out that you have to remember that we are all of a certain age but a lot of the guys on

The Jets are younger and they grew up literally watching Aaron Rogers do his thing so here they get this chance to do it and they might not even be thinking about it but I do think Nick Wright specifically I know he said this because I heard it on his podcast when he talked

About Aaron Rogers put it the best way he has essentially through these Tuesday appearances on Pat mcfish show given us a slow drip of his crazy if he just did one big moment of crazy then we all would just go man what the hell is wrong with Aaron Rogers but

Because Aaron roders has this brain that acts as though you know he’s you know super super smart and because I went on Wikipedia and I read some conspiracy theories I’m much more enlightened it we’ve because at some point the Kyrie Irving the Earth is flat no longer

Resonates right so how do you escalate it h how do you get the people going how is it provocative well well you follow the Playbook from Aaron roders although his Playbook is being is actually kind of tired at this point I I will be curious today though to see how his war

With Jimmy Kimmel elevates because Jimmy Kimmel and his monologue yesterday called Aaron Rogers out and Aaron Rogers speaking Mr cut the [ __ ] when he was asked about it during his press conference said well you’ll just have to listen to the Mac Show on Tuesday which hey great radio tease buddy but also

Didn’t you just talk about cutting the Bullit so Aaron Rogers is literally full of [ __ ] in the grand scheme of things what [ __ ] a [ __ ] a [ __ ] [ __ ] I love that we’ll close on this from nothing man who has easily become my favorite comment person on YouTube

Okay the game on my TV had Clemson go 1418 from three-point land almost all of them were open looks oh smug hats however you guys put on your smug Hats about how good uncc’s defense is I know you guys are trying to make this unsustainable business model work and

The 50 people or so who tune into your live YouTube podcasts are pulling for you it’s 150 okay nothing man not just 50 but if you were if you discuss the current best teams in the ACC more often and get the 12,000 demon Deacon alumni who live in the Triangle to check out

Your show as far as Bott having his jersey among the thousands in the RS don’t you have to at least hit one shot from outside of 5T from the basket is that a basic criteria basically what I’m finding out from nothing man is that he’s a Wake Forest guy who cannot stand

The Tar Heels I need State fans to elevate their game oh you don’t like Carolina you hate UNC you’re already predicting how you’re going to get screwed by the refs on Wednesday you need to elevate your game like nothing man who clearly has a vendetta against

The Tar Heels as a Wake Forest guy what you know about that Wolfpack fans Step It Up step it up he went on to say oh is there more we’re actually pulling for you it seems like the odds are stacked against you the famous words of Han

Solo never tell me the odds that’s going to close it out we will see you Wednesday we’ll talk a little bit more panthers look ahead again to that NC State Carolina game He

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  1. My view since the teams were announced is that the best four teams were not in the invitational…and it wasn't because of FSU. Thought that if they truly wanted the best four teams then Georgia would have been one of the four. That alone led me not to believe what they were selling.

  2. Hey, the "new" Joe O. – gave the Deacs some love, didn't have to talk about UNC first, admitted Bacot probably won't even get drafted – you are starting to get the hang of this job, young man. However, I have a Question for (Both) Joes – since Green Bay finished the season 6-2, defeated the defending champion Chiefs, the Vikings, the Rams, etc. then why do you both say they have no business being in the playoffs?? Most analysts are saying that if you are Dallas sitting at number 2 waiting for a number 7 to come visit your stadium, you do NOT want to see a Green Bay team with nothing to lose. FUN FACT – The Dallas Cowboys have a record of 1-4 versus the Packers between January 5, 2014 and January 5, 2024 – past 10 years.

  3. Surprised we didn’t get a “The more you Noah” whilst we were navigating. Someone posted that this is the first 3-0 meeting for both teams since ‘74. The rivalry was running hot then.

  4. Would like to highlight the correct prediction of a Middlebrooks flop that earned a flagrant on Bacot. Goofy moment for the game and the sport.

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