Woodward Sports Detroit Lions beat reporter Matt Broder and Booner breakdown whether or not the NFL disrespected Jared Goff by not voting him into the Pro Bowl, despite the success of the team and the numbers he’s posted. What’s your opinion? Like, Subscribe and leave your comment below!
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The conversation we’ve all been waiting for the Jared golf conversation I I’ll I’ll lead you into this at the end of the day I think it’s very very it is very very well known that Jared gof got snubbed as well for the Pro Bowl yeah he
Has the numbers he’s on the one he’s on a Division winning team Matthew Stafford got in and I know this is a Detroit guy i’ grew up loving Stafford he he did not have the season Jared gof had even Ben Johnson today um they asked him about
Like hey some guys and they didn’t even mention J at golfer quarterbacks they just said hey there were some guys on your team that felt like they got snubbed potentially got snubbed how do you feel and guess what he brought up right away they didn’t ask they didn’t
Say player nothing he said some some people run the NFL look at stats like interceptions and they don’t realize kind of where some of those lead to what are some of those four the fourth down ones where you have to make a play uh some good def like and he was like they
Look get those and then that’s what they use Jared gof should be in the Pro Bowl over Matt Matthew Stafford crazy to say that as a Detroit Lions fan now after all the trade and the Super Bowl and all that but Jared G should be in over Matthew Stafford end
Of story done deal backs That’s my kind of opening statement with this Jared golf stuff I know we’re going to get into a little MVP conversation with it as well but I just want you to know that’s where I stand out yeah I’m with you I’m with you on that let’s start
There because idiotic that he’s not in that’s where I I started going down a Rabel actually starting with amanra st Brown uh and when all these pieces kind of fell in into place it just it it it painted Jared golf even in a whole new life and this stuff isn’t to take Jabs
At any um you know any trolls any any local fan you know people we’ we’ve been pretty polarized here in this is more this is more at the NFL this is more at the the vote like I’m I’m just confused what what we’re judging quarterbacks by so let’s start with the Pro Bowl
Conversation Pete there’s a graphic that has Jared G versus the other uh NFC Pro Bowl uh contender this is just a comparison of their stats uh which Jared goth uh did you send me that one yep it should be near near the top and slack basically it confirms you
Know Dak Prescott deserves to be in the Pro Bowl so does uh Brock py those I’m not I’m not arguing at all it’s the Matthew Stafford it’s the Matthew Stafford debate and then you could take it one step farther and go Jaylen Herz uh who is the first alternate
Quarterback uh but here uh BR py I I get it and I’m going to bring him up when we start talking you know comparisons to the MVP Dak Prescott there’s no denying that but man look at look at this Matthew Stafford comparison that that’s I that’s where I have trouble how how is
Jared gof not in there over Matthew Stafford and Jared gof too was was uh I think he was number eight in fan voting uh for the Pro Bowl Matthew Stafford wasn’t top 10 so this means that coaches and players and GMS voted for Stafford over gof but G has a higher completion
Percentage 290 more passing yards and one more game of course but but 29 more pass yards than than Stafford more pass yards per game four more passing touchdowns two more rushing touchdowns only one more interception in a higher cubb rating he’s also LED this team this
Is 11 and5 team first in the NFC North they might end up the second or third seed versus a 9 and6 team as a starter I I think they’re nine and seven overall second in the NFC West and seven seed and they’re sitting him so I I I just
Really I really don’t don’t get it yeah I’m just going to be completely honest with all you guys I have no answer for why he didn’t make the Pro Bowl I I he’s even behind Jaylen Herz I have zero I have no clue if I’m being completely
Honest when you break it down and like it’s right in front of you who had a better year all the only answer I can tell you and only thing I can bring out of it it’s the same thing with di Rod St Brown is it’s a one it’s a it’s a
Popularity contest players and coaches vote on it it’s more players like Matthew Stafford more coaches like Matthew Stafford than Jared G more players and more coaches like PUK Co and it’s a cooler story to them than it is I’m and R st Brown yeah and same with
The AJ brown one so that and Mike Evans like it’s that’s all it is it’s it’s a popularity contest at the end of the day that’s why I saying the allpro when that comes out I don’t think Jared G will be an all proo but I do believe that he
Should some like this is something to where he should have got his flowers for the year he had yeah this is like I I talk about it all year All Pro is extremely hard to get that is the best of the best that is the MVP guys that is
The number one number two players at those those positions where you’re you should get some flowers for having those years those if you’re top five in your position it should be the Pro Bowl the pro Bowl’s gone it’s out of hand now it’s not there’s nothing good about the
Pro Bowl anymore like I I’m kind of mad at myself and I’m sure some of you guys are too that I’m even giving it time that we’re even like get we’re getting all worked up about the Pro Bowl and because the reason it is too is because
When these guys ask for contracts at the end of these guys careers when they’re trying about the Hall of Fame and these things that’s that’s something that like everyone looks at how many pro Bowls did he make and and and now just means nothing the Pro Bowl means absolutely
Nothing when you have a guy like Jared go who’s put clearly every single statistical category better every single one almost besides maybe one or two that actually matter is better than Matthew Stafford and has two more wins than him and his team won the division it it it’s
It’s a joke the NFL the players the coaches whoever voted on it it’s an absolute joke it’s a disgrace of the game and in the NFL there’s no point there’s zero point in having a pro bowl or even caring about it I’m I’m I’m I’m
Worked up about it right now Phil in the chat said who cares I’m with you Phil I’m I’m actually I’m kind of over it as I’m talking myself out of it and the the who cares conversation even more valuable to that conversation to a guy like St Brown who’s a fourth round pick
The Pro Bowl bonus is worth way more to him than it is to a guy like Jared gof but that is a sort of and this is a quick thing Brandon cats in the chat appreciate you actually tuning in you don’t tune in a lot he said Stafford’s
Number uh number one receiver of most of the year is a fifth round rookie and couples HT all year doesn’t matter he still didn’t put the stats up when they pick Awards and when they pick who goes on these Pro Bowl teams they don’t break
Down who you had what coach you had this that they don’t care they look at Stats and they look at record they looked at how you played this is how you performed Brandon cats this isn’t just oh well this guy’s in this situation this situ no this is strictly off performance and
Jared G outperformed Matthew Stafford this year very clearly and should be in over him very clear thank you for the zoom in Pete great great great work that’s facts by the way he’s he’s he’s third in passing yards third in attempts and fourth in touchdowns what’s wrong with that the offense third ranked
Offense in terms of yard third in passing yards fifth in total points and fourth in rushing yards this the Los Angeles Rams seventh in offense in terms of total yards eighth in passing eighth in points 10th in rushing Matthew Stafford he is a pro bowl running back
Jared G doesn’t he a Pro Bowl wide receiver not named Cooper cup Jared G doesn’t Jared GF isn’t even a pro bowler so so I I don’t get apparently you know apparently Matthew Stanford did anyways this sort of carries over into the MVP conversation because you’re goingon to
Lose me no that that’s fine Matthew Stafford is ranked eight right now per FanDuel early it actually let me start so we don’t confuse everybody I do not think Jared G should win the MVP I I have I he might not even be top five but
There’s a conversation to be had why we talk all season about uh we’ve taken stats out of it for Jared golf who’ve gone I test he’s got everything around him he’s got the best offensive line he has all these weapons the Pro Bowl these Pro Bowl nominations they tell a
Completely different story you look at a guy Matthew Stafford ranked eighth he’s he’s his odds are eighth to win uh the MVP award Jaylen Herz is not only the first alternate in the NFC but he’s ranked 10th for the uh for the MVP how about this pie Brock py who I agree I
Agree Brock py should be the number two or number three uh uh in the MVP race how about this most of P’s stats most of his individual passing stats are higher than golf although not by a ton they are 12-4 versus golf’s 11-5 um and and the
Team stats raking are close the the 49ers are a better offense in all those 49ers have the second rank defense compared to the Lions 23rd they have four of a five offensive linemen are either starters or alternates they’ve got eight pro bowlers total five on defense uh Christian mcaffrey also in
The top five of prob of MVP voting voting is on his team we talk about all this with Jared G having the perfect uh Perfect Situation around him he has two offensive linemen who are who are starters and Jonah Jackson’s a third alternate doesn’t have a Pro Bowl wide
Receiver he does have a pro bowl tight end but he’s a rookie uh TJ howison likely would have been in that spot if he didn’t get hurt but we should be giving credit to Jared G as part of that Sam leap Porter’s uh Evolution his play a lot of that hinges
On your quarterback getting in the ball uh that’s once you start seeing what the the what weapons and what is around some of these top guys and Brock p is just an example because of uh because of his his offensive line because of all this uh
Gof has done way more with way less and his stats compared to all these guys are right up there they’re right up there Jaylen Herz all five of his offensive linemen are are going to the Pro Bowl I see what you’re saying I’m I’m just going to lead it off with this
Though um I’ve been all year that Brock py was an MVP candidate that it was Christian mcaffrey really um and I don’t even think Jaylen Herz I don’t know where he’s at with the odds or anything like that I don’t even think he should be close to top five as well um and
Jared gof and I I said this yesterday too and this is basically all like he shouldn’t even be close to the top five as well in my opinion after what he did in Dallas I I think the MVP and and I know Brandon cat said this about
The uh Lamar Jackson with the MVP that Lamar hasn’t put up the numbers that’s where I think the difference from Pro Bowl and MVP is the Pro Bowl is like you get your flowers for performing and getting the numbers and going out there and winning games and putting up a ton
Of numbers MVP is you say it all the time Brer most valuable
23 Comments
Jared Goff is a slightly above average quarterback. If Mathew Stafford had a Sam Laporta, an Amon Ra st Brown, a Josh Reynolds and a Jameson Williams he'd have at least 40+ touchdowns. Jared Goff meat-riders are just delusional and insane.
Because he can’t win a Super Bowl draft a QB and move on
Shit no
He gets TOO MUCH praise and credit. If we had RUSSELL WILSON in THIS offense, we'd probably be 13-3 right now
It's not goff disrespect, it's any Lions QB. When Stafford was there he threw for 5100 yards and 41 tds and didnt get a pro bowl.
Jared Goff has had 1 touchdown pass in 7 games this season. He had 0 in the game against Baltimore. Yeah.. That's truly "pro-bowl" worthy 😂
Dude said Goff has done way more with way less, 1st round TE, top 2 oline, 1st round rb, ,1st round WR ow of the best offensive minds gtfoh
You know who really got disrespected? Montgomery. I love Gibbs and him being 1st alternate but Monty has better stats, actually.
The lions are winning and y'all see still find reason to put us as the same ole lions "let's go goff" first QB to get us to the playoffs in the 30 years
Goff sucks & over rated.. get him out of here
Stafford had the better pff grade than Goff. His offensive line, tight end and running backs are worse. Stafford made a star out of a fourth round rookie. Get serious.
This is just make up for Goff getting in twice in LA when there were better choices and Stafford getting hosed when he was in Detroit.
Love this show but you guys are trying to tell us the coaches, players, and GMs got it wrong?
Not crazy to say goff over Stafford. Better percentages and wins over yards and TDS period
Goff is ranked 15th in QBR, he's mid by definition
Well said Booner. I agree man
"It's PAYBACK TIME!" Didn't you get the memo?? First up, LAs Mcfly and Stafford… next, Jerry's Cowboys and Prescott.
eh IDK I think you could argue either stafford or goff. They went with stafford. Stafford is better at some things.
As said in "Major League" " "we'll just win the whole fucking thing"😊
Coaches, players and gms voted Stafford in because he’s the better QB. When you play him you have to be prepared to defend every blade of grass and he makes a handful of insane throws per game. This isn’t new guys, we know this. He constantly makes the players around him better, Puka Nacua being the latest example. Can’t argue with Jared’s numbers, he had a better statistical season but the people who play and coach the game spoke loudly about who the better player is. With the amount of pro bowls Stafford got screwed out of I simply cannot be upset about this.
Who cares let's when playoff games the pro bowl is junk anyways
No body is realizing the argument we are having is the same argument the rams had and guess what they came to a conclusion that the lions will eventually have to come to.
He’s set for a huge payday, I doubt he cares whether the NFL disrespects him or not.
It's just more of butt hurt Lions fans. And, to state that the pro bowl is a joke, it's true.
This is a case where more lion's fans will be prescribed blood pressure meds.