Joshua dominates Wallin | Parker upsets Wilder | Dubois stops Miller | “Day of Reckoning” Breakdown

Teddy Atlas and co-host Ken Rideout breakdown all the fights from the “Day of Reckoning” boxing card from this past weekend including, Anthony Joshua’s decisive win over Otto Wallin, and Joseph Parker’s stunning upset of Deontay Wilder. They also cover Filip Hrgovic vs Mark De Mori, Jai Opetaia vs Ellis Zorro, Agit Kabayel vs Arslanbek Makhmudov, Dmitry Bivol vs Lnydon Arthur, and Daniel Dubois vs Jarrell Miller.

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Timestamps:
00:00 – Intro
17:59 – Filip Hrgovic vs Mark De Mori
24:51 – Jai Opetaia vs Ellis Zorro
31:32 – Agit Kabayel vs Arslanbek Makhmudov
46:27 – Dmitry Bivol vs Lnydon Arthur
59:40 – Daniel Dubois vs Jarrell Miller
1:14:30 – Joseph Parker vs Deontay Wilder
1:31:37 – Anthony Joshua vs Otto Wallin
1:47:47 – What’s next for Anthony Joshua?

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Welcome to the fight with Teddy Alice presented by Dynamic striking I’m Ken R out joined as always by the voice of all Combat Sports the great Teddy Atlas Teddy how you doing good I want to wish everybody uh Merry Christmas this is Christmas Eve we are recording on

Christmas Eve you’ll get it a little after Christmas but um wishing everybody out there Merry Christmas of course a happy New Year and and um hope everybody gets what they want for Christmas and most importantly I hope everybody’s healthy happy and everybody can share love a little bit extra on

Christmas I got a reminder last night for my four-year-old granddaughter Mara they live with us everybody knows that for the last four years uh Mara Joseph and now little Adeline she’s 5 months old they they all live with us and they’re moving which is a little tough

For me they’re moving to a beautiful place Rumson New Jersey they’ll be room moving right after New Year’s so you know we’re we’re enjoying this Christmas with them and I’m dreading even thinking about when they move because you know like I’ve said to you they’re my kids

Now you know I I my daughter and her husband getting confused they think they’re their kids they they they they forget they they become my kids you know of course i’ I’ve uh I’ve looked at the statues the legal statues Ken uh my daughter’s a lawyer to see what you

Would get what her grandfather would get who mly dessed um distressed would get for kidnapping and you know I I think I could probably handle it I you know um I think so but anyway all kidding around I got to remind it last night from Little four-year-old

Mara because Buddy the elf you know about the elf right the magical elf that that flies around and does all we got Sheamus yeah so we got Buddy the elf and if you touch him I’m just learning some of the you know some of the dos and

Don’ts if you touch him he loses his magic so the only way he could get his magic back you got to leave him alone and then you got to put cinnamon on him and so so last night before bed Mara said Mom and papa uh we got to put the

Cinnamon on buddy so we went over there we sprinkled the cinnamon on buddy and sure enough it worked Bud he was able to fly around the house and uh he wound up in the Christmas tree this morning you never know where he’s going to wind up

But he wind up in the Christmas tree this morning but he flew around the house he he did his job he he left a nice note for Joseph and um and Mara and I’m also blessed we’re blessed me and Elaine that my son flew in from Vegas

With little teddy the four and his wife Lana so we got all the grandkids here which is beautiful but there’s a lesson to be learned and here’s the moral of that of that story about Buddy the elf and his cinnaman taking care have everything find this cinnamon in your

Life that’s that’s what it it struck me last night we we make things so complicated sometimes about problems that aren’t maybe quite as big as we make them sometimes they grow a little bit within us and um just make a little cinnamon on them and find whatever that

Cinnamon is for you in life find it and sprinkle it on your problems and you know what everything might be okay then and you’ll find that it wasn’t quite as bad as your daughter was all right and um that’s my that’s my little story for Christmas my little love note to

Everybody out there and seven hours of watching boxing yesterday I sat in front of that I I got started maybe a half hour late I got started about 12 from 12: to 7:00 at night I watched all those fights from s and you know what some of them thank God

A couple of them were good thank God that there was a few good ones and you had an upset we’re going to break them all down we’re going to run through them fast but um and and we have to run through them fast because it’s Christmas

Eve Santa’s coming we can’t we can’t be doing this too long and not only that the some of those fights you got no choice but to run through them fast I mean they were they were less than uh competitive they were I don’t know why they even wasted

The money you know I know the sorties over there have enough money to waste I get it you know I I understand and they throw it all over the place place with whether it’s with the tennis the golf the the Formula One I they bought the entire PGA Tour PGA they’ve completely

Decimated it they might buy boxes and I’m not joking don’t take what I’m saying I think they already have they might buy they might take a buy do a deal with a network buy out one of the sanctioning uh organizations which they can own like that they probably own them

Already quite frankly you just create your own none of them have any credibility and just they could buy a stable of whether it’s top rank stable stable whether it’s the pbc’s well they’re going over to Amazon now so they have a deal but whatever it is they they could just

Bring all the fighters to them start their own organization their own network um basically own boxing uh if if they want to do that which you know um they’re showing that they’re flexing their muscle a little bit it’s not a secret the the oil one day is not going to be under the

Ground and so they’re prepared for that day they’re prepared for the day where the oil ain’t going to be there so they want to be they want to be more tourist friendly so they’re trying to change the image of the country which you know they’re doing and make it a tourist

Attraction to go to Saudi Arabia and make it to sports Mecca as one of those attractions to pull you in like Las Vegas has gambling well they want to have sports where there’ll be the me of sports in the world and that’ll make them the tourist capital of the world um

So I would just I know that again when you have that kind of money it’s kind of hard to respect money because I mean everywhere you walk there’s money because it’s under the ground right so everywhere you walk there you’re walking on top of money you’re not walking on top of money

As as wealthy as you are but I’m not walking on top of money but they’re walking on top of money but even with that why do you waste money on some of those fights we again we got lucky we got a few good ones we got an upset so

We’re I think we’re happy but some of those they could have taken that money instead of flying in in the opponent from Australia and we’ll break them all down and I’ll go into specifics but instead of doing that in they could have used it for a a real fight they could

Have used it to buy another Bugatti you have any Bugattis by the way no no if I had a if I had a billion dollars I wouldn’t drive a Bugatti not for me okay okay but they they could have done something a a little bit more useful

With the money than some of those guys they blow in I I mean one guy got hit he he like I felt bad for him he shook a little bit I think it was the second fight of the the card uh it was the first fight I started watch he shook a

Little bit and and the first thing I thought is he’s allergic to punches you know what I mean like he’s having an allergic reaction to punches I I and and then the one that they made a big deal about o opaya uh the the Cruiserweight

Now listen I love him no no I I love the guy I think he’s a terrific Cruiserweight I think he’s the best one out there I do he punches he’s a good offensive fighter I love him but don’t go crazy over knocking out a guy 17 and0

Who’s never fought anybody and all his fights have been in London now let me qualify that and make it very clear the city of London not not England not not the country of England just all he’s never fought outside the city of London and he fought a few Bankers set at

Cruiserweight to be 17 and0 with only six Knockouts at cruiserweight red flag he huge red flag listen Ken like I say he fought a lot of doormen but not but not even International doorman doorman just from one area in London like maybe a two block radius I

Think he fought some drunk uh Bankers I so don’t go please don’t go ballistic don’t go ballistic the way they did when he knocks the guy the southp otire he knocked him out with a nice left hand but the but the but the poter pulled

Straight back put his head up in the hit me hit me and he hit him and and he knocked him cold okay but to go nuts over again context it’s it’s got to matter who who the guy fought yeah’s seven oh he knocked out a 7 17y old guy

Oh my God he’s the The Reincarnation of Bob forer I I don’t know who but wait a minute again context it it does matter who the guy got 17 and all with it does matter it really does and spend some of the money on bring someone I’m not knocking

Commentators but spend I understand they’re do they’re over there they’re getting the money I went over there I got money I’m I’m not being a hypocrite but they’re over there getting the money from the sties they feel they have to do that no you still have to keep your

Credibility you still you still have to keep it credible you had a chance to yell later when some of the fights became real that’s fine but but when they’re not real you can’t do that maybe the S to spend an extra million dollars to bring over one guy that maybe will

Keep it real that that that are or or somebody that are that it just won’t go really jumping through 400 Hoops when when there’s no Hoops to jump through you know just don’t jump when you don’t have to jump a a wait until it’s real then jump then

Go ballistic if you want but otherwise really it starts to become obvious oh yeah they got they got paid to go over there they do and they’re you know they’re really really really building up and blowing up this whole thing over in sorty that fine I get it you are there

For that but keep it real keep it a little bit real you know who I like on that br though is Tony bellu former Cruiserweight from UK I like good job well you love his accent you love his accent and I I like just got like I like his attitude I like his

Mentality he shoots it straight that’s right he shoots it straight his say you know when you suck he’ll say wait a minute that’s yeah you know he he he’ll cut through the hyp Paul and and he say but wait a minute what do we that what

Do we really see see here that’s that’s let’s stop let’s not bring out the anointment oils to anoint the guys into the boxing you know Hall of Fame that’s that’s wait a couple minutes he also has like credibility as like a really tough guy and a good fighter but he strikes me

As the type of guy that would slap someone during the broadcast he he’s I like him he just tells the me of the UFC broadcast that’s why I like yes exactly right for the most part those guys they they keep it real I mean and listen oh

For sure it’s a little easier with them first of all every one of them is really really vers of what they do they’re really I mean they’re not just guys that you know showed up that I mean these are guys that know the sport that have been

In the sport um they can really speak on the sport in a proper way but it’s a little easier because they get given competitive fights to do a lot more than you get in boxing that that’s you have to say that they they get better material they get better they

They if they’re going out there for a screen test or going out there to do a movie they’re getting the material that dairo and Pacino get they they’re not they’re not getting the stuff that PeeWee Herman was getting you know what Ian or or whatever whatever they they

Getting they getting real scripts they getting real scripts to read to to feel like a real movie actor and to perform like a in the UFC you get real stuff in the boxing you you get some real and you got a lot of stuff quite frankly that is

Is uh bead material it’s it’s spaghetti movies you know what I mean unfortunately independent horror films but look 7 hours of watching it um First full disclosure right from the top I was wrong about both main fights I I picked Wallen and I pick Wilder out of the box

Right out of the box I was wrong I was wrong about both those and you know what it it turned out to uh the Wilder fight became became the one of the best fights because a couple reason not that it was great action every round but you on edge of your chair because

You were watching the making of an upset and you know how explosive water is so you were W you were just waiting it was kind of like watching one of those those movies you know those thriller movies where you you know that Freddy Krueger might jump out of the closet at any

Moment well let let’s not get too far into that cuz I want to get you I want to talk about that exact concept I want to tell you look forward to this I didn’t tell you and Rob uh I want our folks to hear it we’re going to have Joe

Parker in his trainer on the show probably next week um we we’ll figure out exactly they’re flying back from sorty uh right now so we couldn’t get him on right now but we’ll probably he may be making a guest appearance here in my office in a few minutes stay tuned if

You’re watching on YouTube stick around Joe Parker may be popping in for a minute yeah okay um but we’re gonna we’re gonna have them on probably next week uh because kid suan my friend and the attorney who works with my Foundation who’s he’s a great attorney in Brooklyn New York

Manhattan um does a great job but he’s also partners with the trainer for for Parker who did a great job uh Andy Lee he’s partners with him with a fighter over an island a a undefeated welterweight Prospect I I said it before his last fight which he really looked

Good I said that I thought he was the best Prospect coming out of Island out of all these Irish there’s a lot of good Irish prospects coming up I thought Patty Donovan that’s who it is uh is the top prospect and he’s looking like he is

Right now to be quite Frank but um Keith Sullivan and Andy Lee co-manage him so of course Andy League trains Parker so they’re going to we’re we’re going to get him on so that’ll be that’ll be good let’s start with the let’s start with the first fight uh that I saw anyway I

Know it was the second fight of the card I know that um I know what was it Sanchez was the first one um yeah Frank Sanchez yeah Frank Sanchez was the first one he he he won by knock out to win some rounds I I believe it was probably one-sided but um

Yeah it was the fight that I started with and then I never moved my from my seat was flip hovic against deari right yeah Philip herovic uh absolutely destroys Mark deore how Mark deori the Australian had a um had a record why spend the half fair for him to come from Australia

Really I know though again I know that oil money it don’t mean anything I get it but come on use it for use it for something else use it for an extra rig card girl I I don’t know he was 412 and two which is crazy because hergovich made him look like he

Literally came out of the crowd with no experience he turned his back one one round how many shots could he have possibly been able to turn his back a guy with a big resume in damage the bronze medalist bronze medalist 17-0 as a heavyweight but I mean he did exactly

What he was supposed to do but where they found a guy with a 41 and2 and two with 36 Knockouts to come in and look the way he did against hergovich and I’m not trying to knock the guy but good Lord how did he gets so many wins who

Was he fighting he got in with one really good guy herovic is a top top guy he should be cont right I’m going to add you I’m going to add you a little flipping a little flipping you know I’m I’m known for that once in a while and

I’m pretty serious too I’m both you know and um I’m neurotic and everything else but you’ve you’ve driven past cemeteries okay now don’t do your road work I know you’re running all over the freaking place the great Marathon you’re the great remind everyone out there I remind them you’re the best marathoner

In the world uh at 50 and over in the world run you run a you run a a below 230 Marathon what is your best time 225 226 228 all right 228 pretty damn good so don’t do any running near cemeteries because you might fall into an open hole

Okay because that’s the answer to how they get some of these opponents that build up their record there’s your answer there’s your answer and now look obviously not literally but the you can build I I wasn’t joking you want to be 10 and0 I get you 10 and0

I know where to go I’ll take you to the places we can build you can build up anybody’s record if you know how to do it and and you can find and and you and you asked the right question for the fans how do they find that many guys for

This guy to beat but you can you can find them because there’s no because you go to places where the commission doesn’t even exist so you could bring you could bring your brother in and listen Rocky Marciano by the way the great Rocky Marciano I’m not demeaning

Him the great one of the greatest heavyweights ever I know it’s a different era he was smaller all that only heavyweight champ to retire undefeated great fighter great fight and I don’t want to hear that he fought edar Charles and War cot when they were in their 30s because they were in their

Prime in their 30 some Fighters are in their Prime in that dir he he beat great Fighters but on his way up while he was being built up like everybody can to answer your question it looks like he may have fought his brother the only thing I want to say is

Yeah you I get it 10 15 maybe even 20 but 41 and two like what the hell is the purpose like you would build up the record so that they could get a Payday do you remember Dwayne bar Dwayne barck was supposed to be the next white hope

The white hope uh heavyweight hope um he was he was in Olympics he got knocked out by the great Stevenson uh from Cuba one of the only three people to ever win three gold medals in three different three Olympics gold medals in three different Olympics the great uh Tio Fimo Stevenson

And he He Turned Pro and they got him to somewhere around 50 you know look it up ask Rob to Google it one of you guys Googled the damn thing he got he they got him to about 50 and0 something like that so that there’s your

Your answer and then he fought his first real life fight against Ken Norton and it didn’t go well it didn’t go well it didn’t go well is that an echo over here it didn’t go well he was 115 and 13 okay Tio tioo all right now that the

Great tioo was the great you know Olympian amateur and um they were trying to get him to come over here Castro ran everything the Cubans couldn’t come over here unless they escaped and they they couldn’t fight professionals so they only fought a he he fought he won three

Three Olympics gold medal they were talking about bringing him over to fight Ali when Ali was champ it never happened um he was very committed to Cuba and to Castro Castro was a big you know big big boxing uh big boxing guy over there so anyway Dwayne baric was undefeated he

Had a lot of wins did you find it yet and they finally put him in with somebody they put him in Ken Norton and Ken Norton if my memory serves me correctly obliterated him in one round Dwayne bobic was 38 and0 when he fought

Ken Norton yeah yes 38 no not I knew he didn’t have losses come on all right so 38 no so Ken to your question how do how do guys get to those records it’s been going on forever in boxing you know where to go to get the to build the

Records up and you go there and you build the records up the only problem is like Newton said what goes up must come down baby that’s the problem that’s when you run into a problem because sooner or later you got to actually fight somebody and when you do Ken Norton knocks you

Out in one [Laughter] round just like Mark tamori it was uh it was embarrassing honestly it so one-sided it was all right so all right next fight up next fight up Jai H AAA knocks out Elvis Zoro in the first round again and embarrassing mismatch and um

The only bright spot there was uh Mauricio sulaman quick to point out that because he initiated the four rope four rope rule in boxing if you notice zoro’s head was just about to hit the canvas but it caught the fourth rope and probably saved him from a much scarier

Knockout Suliman was quick to point out that thank God for him in the WBC in the fourth rope rulle that they uh basically were responsible for saving Zoro probably been waiting 20 years to jump in with that line nevertheless did he while he was taking

Credit for that did he also take did he also take credit or apologize for all the years all the years of having these these these joke of rankings of guys number one fighting for mandatories and and they couldn’t fight their way out of for a a wet paper bag and and they and

He makes them number one mandatories and and then when it’s over with the guy gets obliterated everybody says how did he become a number one man well go ask sulan go ask Kim how go or or when he makes rules when he makes rules you know

That that are good for some but but not good for all you know uh there’s certain exceptions like Canelo or whoever that no matter what you can stay inactive for 400 years and still be still be rated franch franchised and still be champion and still be this and still be that and

Meanwhile somebody else who’s not in the club who’s not in the club God forbid they get a cold God forbid they get sick and they can’t fight for a little while they they’re they’re out they’re out but other guys could be inactive literally for two years two and a half years but

He put in the fourth rope rule he put the four R but he put the open oh thank God all right okay okay all right CH easy how about how about not allowing guys to fight so their head don’t hit the fourth R how about that for a novel idea Ken is

That a Noel idea do I get The Nobel Prize for that some kind of noble uh laurate prize for that how about that how about don’t put in guys into fights way over their head by ranking them because you’re doing business don’t put them fights where their health is at

Risk where they could get killed in the ring where they could get hurt in the ring where their head hits the fourth rope don’t how about that how about that stop making those kind of matches fair I think it is okay so op Tire I

Like him 23 and0 now he’s 24 and0 southp good puncher uh 2012 Olympian uh from Australia I like him I I think I caught his fight for the NBC in those Olympics that was my last Olympics uh where I work him for NBC after work in four

Straight Olympics so I like him I think he’s the best cruiserweight probably I’m I’m trying to think if I’m missing anybody right now but um there’s somebody else out there who’s a top cruiserweight I’m trying to oh the the kid that moved up from Super middleweight to light heavyweight and

Then he just moved up before Joe Smith to Cru away um uh the the kid from Mexico uh he just beat Joe Smith and he’s Campa Gil Gilberto Ramirez yeah he’s campaigning at Cruiser now right yeah yeah I think I think he heav opay the best cruiserweights out there so

They only have him ranked number nine on the ESPN rankings in the cruiserweight division who’s who’s that who’s that kid they they have Gilberto Ramirez only ranked as they got him ranked number nine in the Cruiserweight rankings well he just he he just fought his first fight at Cruiserweight so maybe they’re

Going to you know they they’re they’re waiting for the check to clear I mean they’re waiting for I’m sorry I did not mean that’s a fian uh what do they call that kenian s fian slip I didn’t mean to do that I didn’t really it’s and I

Haven’t been drinking egg knock um it’s I’m sorry I’m I’m sorry um no I mean he just his first fight at Cruiserweight and they’re just waiting for him to you know they’re they’re waiting for him to ferment a little bit you know like you wait you wait for cided to ferment or

Wine to ferment they they’re just waiting a minute look bottom line is obre good fighter he didn’t need to be in there with Zoro or Oro I mean his name Zoro I if you would have gave him a sword I don’t think he would I don’t

Think he could have won with a sword Zoro you know that Ken I mean yeah I know I mean you remember Zoro don’t you of course with the sword and he made the Z on your shirt and all that stuff he was so quick with the sword and he

Wore the mask if you gave this Sor of a sword I still would have taken alltire I um I I don’t know it just I I just I felt s for the kids 17 and0 and he fought nobody and then you put him in you talk about going from The Waiting

Pool to the ocean I mean really and they throw this kid in like that oh boy and and then and then the commentators called an incredible performance and like I said based on what knock and cold a guy who’s never fought anyone who stood up tall and just

Exposed his chin and pulled back and basically said here hit me I I I don’t get it I I mean the poor kid look he had the guts to go take the fight but they shouldn’t have his handers really they they should be reprimanded for for mismanagement

Putting them in because you you go from fighting nobody on your resume to fighting this guy well now what it looked like I mean they almost got they almost got him killed oh oh anyway the next one it was first real fight of the night um or of

The day over here and go ahead can you introduce it because I don’t want to even try I don’t even want to try to say this a cabel drops allson Arin Beck madev three times stop him in the fourth round shocker knocked them out with body shots just broke him

Down um this was like you said this was the one fight that I was like well with the Wilder ocy was I thought was super entertaining and interesting if not one-sided um but yeah this guy ided but but C had to work to make it one-sided

And he had to take risk a Aid Cabo moves to 24 and0 he’s the European Champion pulled off a huge unexpected shocker fourth round knockout of undefeated puncher Arin Beck mmv uh who goes to 18- one with 17 Knockouts in four rounds uh um like I

Said huge knockout uh huge uh huge upset how’d you like it he comes from the same team as better be of too I believe same area in the in the world but mm magador as you said going in 18 and0 17 Knockouts look he he was like he was

George Foreman when he faced Ali you know where Alli faced the boogeyman The Mummy Frankenstein whatever you want to call him um and he stood up to him and broke him down and then but George Foreman of course Mador would pray and get on his knees he could have a career

Like George Foreman or be come a man like George Foreman maybe he can but he’s got a long way to go because George Foreman suffered for 10 years after that loss to Alli and then Jimmy young and 10 years to exercise those ghosts the internal ghosts they’re the worst

They’re the worst they’re in your attic can’t get rid of them you have to get rid of them yourself and you got to go face the music and George Foreman came back and at the age of 45 he faced the music from that night in zire and he got

Redemption uh great man George Forman one of the greatest heavyweights of all time his second act was arguably better than his first act or or at least as good because there were two lives to George Foreman the the one before Aly the one after uh but what he

Learned from that first one he came back and put it to use in his second life and I have nothing but respect for Foreman but it was similar to that mmor got exposed by Cabo uh C cabel and um cabel 23 and0 now he’s 24 and0 he was 15 look

It goes to show you why it’s important to have fought somebody because Cabo had been tested you know was European Champion I believe two times he he been in real fights where mondorf just was you know he’s doing what Foreman was doing to a certain extent before Alli

You know I mean uh although I shouldn’t say that foreman was in there with Ron L he got dropped he got off the floor he showed a great chin great heart um of course he knocked out Joe Frasier but that didn’t turn out to be competitive

Um but but he did face the great Joe Frasier um who probably had a lot taken out of him uh after that first Ali fight in the garden um so I mean Foreman had for guys but still Foreman was the boogeyman Foreman was the bully on the

Block and nobody had been able to stand up to him and to the credit of Capo not only did he take the fight he knew what he was going to do he knew what he could do and that’s the benefit of having been in real fights that you

Know where you can go you know what you can handle you know you can depend on yourself you know you could put a light on in a dark room that was the advantage Capo had and a lot of these guys you know they they haven’t fought real fights in

That sense in that way to find out those things yeah Mar Mador knew that he could punch yeah he knew he could walk through guys yeah he knew he could intimidate guys but did he know that he himself could be dependent on when those lights started flickering a little bit

He didn’t know that yet he hadn’t been in that kind of fight he found out he found out the hard way all at once without having the benefit of having been in one of those fights to prepare for this he wasn’t prepared for this mentally technically physically at all

To the credit of Cabo he’s he’s my favorite fighter right now I love the guy I love him not only because he knows how to fight he’s technically was better than Mador yes and he he outboxed him he his punches were sweeter they were shorter he could counter punch he could

Press he could he could move around pick spots pot shot used the ring when he had to the first round you know to to get a sense of what was going on to kind of uh you know kind of like a a lion in the

Prairie a lion going out there in the in the wild just kind of looking over the the territory you know getting a feel for the territory what’s out there that’s that’s what kab out did the first round moving laterally looking for spots you know just surveying the land figuring

Out what he’s going to do later but he he could do all those things but you know why I love the guy Ken I I love him because he not just because he knows how to fight like a fighter he knows how to behave like a fighter when when when

Push came to shove and it always does when the Moment of Truth came and he had to behave like a fighter he behaved like a fighter he he he not only boxed but once he realized he could expose this guy he went into the lions den he did he

Opened up the lion’s mouth and put his freaking head right in there he he went right and that’s how broke him down he could have kept boxing but then Mador would have had a chance to land something because he wouldn’t have been broken down so what did he do he boxed

He picked spots he was smart but then he started pressing the envelope and he knew that he could do it he knew he could get in the eye of the storm and be safe because that’s what good Fighters learn that you can be safe inside the wider puncher you can punch inside you

Can get off and get out before he gets off you can press him back you you can make a Miss in close and then hit him right back and give him a taste of his own medicine and they don’t like a taste of their own medicine these guys have

Always had it their way they don’t like a taste of their own medicine Ken so he knew that yeah I could box all night but if I press I’m going to get rid of this guy I’m going to break this guy down in the core of where he should be broken

Down right here in his heart and his mind I’m I’m going to I’m going to to take all hope away because his hope is that he can land something big he could push it back I’m I’m going to push him back I’m going to I’m going to bully the

Bully so to speak and man and he went to the body and he stopped with three consecutive body shots dropped them what fourth round whatever round that was he dropped them three times with with body shot but he broke him down he showed all his assets he showed all his Dimensions

Not only can he use his legs and box on the outside he could go inside he could move his head make you miss bang weave a punch bang right there and that’s what he did and that’s how he got rid of this guy in for and that’s how he got Teddy

Atlas talking about him on on this kind of level that’s how he got it that’s what impressed me his mind his heart his his his his behavior of a fighter when I say those little things about guys like should C Stevenson I want to make a point here Stevenson is a tremendous Talent

Tremendous fighter he’s not a big heavyweight I get it he’s a small guy but he’s got great talent he can box this guy Cabo he can box to but he chooses when he sees he can to go and press and get to the guy like sugaray lenon like penell Whitaker used to do

All great boxes but when they see they can also get to the guy they go get to the guy they take that risk they do it smart they do it with Talent they do it with great ability but they do it because they want to do it because they

Want to be more than a guy who just escapes with a win because he’s too fast and he’s too slick and but if they see a chance to be more they want to be more and cabio is that guy and that’s why I’m not knocking Chau Stevenson he’s he gets

Tell you know he says oh like I’m knocking him like I’m hating I’m not hating I’m giving him his accolades he’s a tremendous boxer he’s a he’s he’s a special boxer with his speed his defensive Acumen with his instincts with his reflexes everything Roy Jones was

That but Roy Jones went and got you too that’s why I talk about Roy Jones that’s why I talk about like he’s special and you because you got to step up and be special not just be specially talented but be special with your talent with the

Way that you use your talent that you’ll go once in a while and push the envelope you go once in a while and freaking take the bull by the horn you go once in a while and go into the lions then and take the teeth out of the lion and leave

Them you know yeah that’s what I’m talking about and that’s what I saw I haven’t seen it with Stenson maybe someday you will maybe you will someday but I seen it with cabal and that’s why I’m talking this way I love this guy man oh man I like I love

Sugaray Leonard all those guys everybody knows that already but I he he didn’t just fight like a fight he behaved like a fighter the the kind of fighter you want I haven’t heard you talk this highly of someone in a long time does he SP I didn’t see the interview after the

Fight with him does he speak English do you happen to remember I don’t I didn’t remember that or I if he does it’ be good to have a conversation with him I think he does well if he speaks English and he heard this love to have him on

And have a chat with him I haven’t heard you talk this highly about someone in a long time so and he was smart congrats to cabel the only thing I was worried about I thought he was engaging in spots too much but he wasn’t he knew he knew

He knew you know because I was like the only chance that this magador who who never been really tested but he could punch and he’s big and he’s intimidating if you let him intimidate you and of course this guy didn’t let him intimidate him and the one chance Mar

Mador had was If he if if Capo engaged too long with him and there was some spots where I was like oh whoa he might be engaging a little too long but he knew what the hell he was doing he knew what the hell he was doing he made a

Mess he stayed he pushed the guy back and he he he didn’t break the guy physically only he broke the guy spiritually he he he just he took his will away he just you know he took the wind Away by going to the body but he he

Took his spirit away he took his will to fight away anyway next oh by the way I saw Haney I saw Haney they were using Haney who who’s on my pound-for-pound list you know he’s he’s one of the top pound-for-pound guys man he looked big

That’s all I just want to say that and and I’m not knocking them I mean after a fight after training camp you’re going to you got to go live and and and you put some weight on but I see it I see it with all fighters and he he got but one

Thing he got big he looks big but here’s the point I’m making I can’t believe that guy make used to make 135 now he’s 140 I he is big teddy made 145 and then 24 hours later he weighed in at 165 and I heard an interview with him on the

Great AR helani show and he said yeah that’s accurate I put on 25 PBS and he said listen most people don’t do the day of weighin it was like some states mandatory some states optional he’s like but a lot of Fighters do this it’s just highlighted when someone does it this

Extreme but he’s like he’s not the first person to do it and other people have done it but he is a big dude who has the ability to really like ring the sponge and get as light as possible and when you’re muscular muscles hold a lot of

Water so it’s you know you can you can lose a lot but yeah to your point he looks huge when he’s um when he’s not cutting weight I don’t know how he’s going to keep making 140 I tell you I guess he’s going to go to 147 he’s big

Yeah he said he said he’ll go to 147 but maybe in a year or two at least that’s what he said on the interview so we’ll see I don’t think um it would be an interesting fight to see him move up and fight uh someone like um Terence

Crawford but I think if he’s smart he’ give it a couple more years and let Terence Crawford get a little longer in the tooth because right now Terence Crawford looks to be a wrecking ball I mean everyone is going to be a challenge to Terence Crawford they say and every

Single person has been exposed more or less and just been like run over by him I think he doesn’t get as much love as he deserves no you’re right the only guy that I put in the same column as Crawford is in a way in way and qu those

Two guys in action who’s in action in a couple of days from uh Japan it’s unfortunate that the fights are always in Japan on like a Tuesday night and it just doesn’t get the exposure but I think if he could get some U Prime Time

Viewing in the US he’d get much more um Love from the US fan base yeah I mean I think he does from the hardcore but there’s only a small percentage of boxing fans are really hardcore I’m sure the ones that are hardcore now are going to attack me on Twitter like they did

With the AJ pick but get to that in a minute um next up Dimitri biville Lynden Arthur um Dmitri Beville back in action like I said he was out for I think 11 months uh comes back against the British Fighter um Arthur Lyndon uh sorry lynon

Arthur and early in the fight like I honestly thought and again I I hope I don’t get attacked for this I can just tell the truth of what I felt it looked to me like um like Arthur was almost scared in the first second round I even

Said to you and Rob I’m like this guy looks scared but to in his to his credit I think he like kind of picked it up a little bit and the fight became a little bit more competitive and um Dimitri bevil ends up getting drops him in the

11th and then gets a one-sided decision 120 107 on all three scorecards basically one-sided fight but I thought that the guy at least didn’t look scared Midway towards the end Midway through the fight and towards the end of the fight but in the beginning he did not

Look comfortable in there what’ you see it’s always hard to fight a guy who’s not really trying to win he’s just trying to survive and people wanted to get a knockout he’s not known as a knockout guy right now but and he hasn’t had a knockout for a long time but for

Me he’s the third best fighter pound-for-pound in the world right now behind behind Crawford and in a way and he’s technically he’s a master class he’s a master class of the sweet science boxing 101 uh you know in and out combinations defense offense counter punching getting off

First like I said running numbers on punches putting four five six seven punches together great legs uh lomman ccho used to have the best legs in boxing Mikey Garcia years ago had really great legs in boxing I think beavil might have the best legs right now in boxing he he controls range distance

Really just beautifully again I think it came down Ken it was not an entertaining fight but it was a it was a master class it was a master class you know if you like watching you know pitching in baseball where a pitcher just dominates hitters then you like watching beevil because he

Just he didn’t even give Al a chance to get up to bat and and that’s where the inherent problem was I don’t know if AR intended to get to bat other than to just get to the plate and and just you know look to get walked because he

Wasn’t really putting an effort and and and to be’s credit he wasn’t given a chance he was blitzed but arur wasn’t given an effort to really take the risk to win he’s a good defensive fighter he knows how to fight Arthur uh I don’t think the commentators gave enough credit to his defensive

Abilities they did point out that he was trying to survive not win and they’re right but there was a couple barges there where the commentators I thought at least mistakenly said oh alur just took a million punches no he didn’t he blocked He Slipped he slid if he took

Them all people would have gotten his knockout that’s what kept them from getting the knockout people wanted that arur wasn’t really trying to take chance he wasn’t putting himself out there where he would leave himself open and he was a he was an he had a PhD in defense

He had a PhD in defense he was slipping he was sliding he was blocking he had good eyes he was concentrated on Surviving and that’s exactly what he did and when they said that bivo just landed you know 400 punches on no he didn’t they he was if he did again he would

Have got rid of him the only thing I thought bie was missing was going to the body more and finally in the 11th round he went to the body and he dropped Arthur and that’s where I thought he should have been going early on a little more I’m surprised his Corner didn’t get

On him a little bit more about that but he’s a great fighter and and and he’s mentally great he’s focused he’s No Nonsense um him and better be if it’s the fight we want to see now you know he beat he already beat uh obviously uh

Canelo we we want to see I know it was at 175 I get it but that was canelo’s choice to go up to his weight class to fight Canelo had fought to 175 before he he had beaten a former world champion uh what’s his name kovalev at 175 didn’t he

Take a title from kovalev did did kovalev have a belt at the time I feel like he might have Maybe I’m Wrong no I don’t know if he he might have I I feel like didn’t then and then bivo took him but I I’ll check it keep going I I’ll

Check hey kovalev was getting older kov was a little past himself you know whatever but the bottom line is Vivo is tremendous the fight we want to see now is better bef I I love better bef he’s a warrior he’s a monster he’s undefeated just like beavil but he’s got all

Knockouts he goes to the body he can punch like hell uh nobody escapes with with him he gets to everybody uh you know he’s he’s technically sound even though you can hit him he’s technically sound he he’s always putting pressure on you he he you know he just he breaks

People down physically and mentally uh better bef it would be really interesting to see better bef and that’s the only interesting fight I I want to see right now at light heavyweight I want to see better be of and beevil can better be of breakdown be can his pressure

Power attitude because he’s he’s just he’s got like a code he’s got like one of those Warrior codes that that comes from that certain part of the world like like khabib in the UFC you know MMA that comes from that part of the world where

You live by a Warriors cold of pride of of not of of not letting letting not breaking that cold not letting down uh the people that abide by that cold like a tradition and better be of is that guy to me that that really lives by that Cod

I think bivo is one of those rare guys that he’s technically better he’s physically faster and all that he doesn’t have the power of better bef but he’s he’s on a different plane technically and he has more options that better be of but he also mentally is

Strong enough to deal with better bef that’s the thing that I think would allow biville to win that fight where I would probably pick him but I want to see that fight I want to see if the the power and the force just just the the

What I just described the the the brute force and belief the the mentality of a warrior of better be of can break through the technique of beevil I I want to see that I love to the only thing I’m worried about Ken is bio’s 40 years old

Now and he’s going to be 41 before they fight and you get old you do you get old and you’re a guy like bevil that’s been in wars and he had all those amateur fights better be I’m talking about and he had all those amateur fights you

Start to wear out a little bit so I don’t know if that’s happened already with better bef but before it’s even later Beil 30 yeah I’d like to see that fight again I think the age might play in there a little bit but the contrasting Styles I

I just want to see it to finish up on the Arthur fight uh bivo had his way but I know that a lot of people were disappointed they thought it was boring again it was a master class of boxing uh if you’re bored by that you shouldn’t watch Boxing I guess but I

Shouldn’t say that I I you want to see excitement you want to see uh knockdowns and all that stuff but like you said when one guy’s trying simply to survive what you do you’re not going to go put yourself In Harm’s Way to like do something stupid to like take

Crazy risk he just broke him down I mean he controlled every single second at the entire fight I mean the guy landed a couple punches but jeez it was not competitive at all when a guy don’t want to be knocked out it’s very hard very hard exactly and again only thing that I

Could give him a little bit of just a tiny bit of what do you call not grief but correction on would be he should have went to the body sooner he finally went to the body bivo and 11th he dropped Arthur um but you know the it

Was towards the end of the round Arthur survived and then bivo went after him in the 12th you know tried to tried to get rid of him opened up with a Fage of punches but again he didn’t go to the body enough I thought he should have went to the body more but

Arthur’s uh a good defensive wizard in there concentrated on defense and he got he got what he concentrated on he got it he got he got a chance to go the distance with uh with beevil and by the way um Canelo did win the WBO World light heavyweight title from kovalev

Back in November of excuse me 2019 so then when he fought um Beeville he must have he must have uh vacated that cuz when he fought biville looks like only the WBA title was on the line I’ll check and see who’s got the WBO in the light heavyweight but um yeah

That will be um interesting to see what’s next the only fight anyone wants to see I think um I think that better be have has uh is it lamb Smith coming up next Callum Smith Callum Smith uh they’re fighting on January 13th uh what’s that three weeks uh in Quebec

City uh I don’t think this is going to go very well for Callum Smith but TBD I’m sorry to the Brits please don’t attack anytime I uh give an opinion that doesn’t align with them they’re very aggressive to me um nevertheless I wouldn’t jump that quick to say Smith’s

Got no chance first of all I don’t think he has no chance I just don’t think oh um well so far you’ve been the W so far nobody goes well nobody’s done well at the end with better be at the end of the day that’s my point but that’s my point

He is 40 41 whatever he is um he is getting to those dangerous Shadows of time where things can change dramatically better be if it says it’s only 38 by the way oh so maybe I’m wrong all right I thought it was 40 okay that’s what box wck has no no then I’m

Going to say I’m wrong um I when I’m wrong I say it right away made his debut 10 years ago in 2013 June of 13 but he had a lot of amateur fights I know somewhere around 300 um you know and like I say it’s one thing to judge of

Somebody chronologically with their age but in boxing you got to judge them by the amount of fights the amount of punches they’ve taken uh that has something to do with it and I I just think better be of’s getting close to that place but look he’s great um I I

Think he’ll beat Smith but I think Smith will give a good account of himself and I also the other thing worth noting is better BF hasn’t really taken any punishment per se I mean against Alex vosic he went 10 rounds but he didn’t get battered then he was in with Adam D

Marcus Brown Joe Smith Jr but never did we see better bef getting battered around the ring like some of these guys can take a lot of punishment he’s been doing out the punishment so that’s worth considering too he is getting older but as a pro he hasn’t taken big punishment

No I mean he’s he’s been in some fights where he’s been um he’s been he’s been touched up a little bit I’m trying to remember he got cut really bad in one fight but that was the only time I remember him really like looking like he was in a fight yeah I

Mean he’s been he’s been hurt in fights um I’m trying to remember if he’s been dropped but I know I’ve seen him I use the word buzzed um you know a few time a few times but yeah and but when you got to add those amateur fights too but I

Get what you’re saying but Park um let’s go to Miller and d d jell Big Baby Miller the what do you even say about this guy I think he’s got three suspensions for doping they finally apparently give him some tests and he should shows up at 333 lbs that’s just offensive to

Professional athletes everywhere he’s in with um Dubois who comes in at 233 and look like a fine-tuned machine and um I actually thought the fight was kind of entertaining and then of course we get the stoppage with about 10 seconds to go Daniel dubas stops Big Baby Miller who

Then went on to list about 200 excuses as to why he lost but um man he is strange guy Jerel Miller um but Daniel dubba keeps it moving he needed that win you know he’s taking a lot of heat about all uh allegations that he quit when he

Was in tough with Joe Joyce with his broken orbital which I mean it is what it is what are you going to say he basically said he was done and um so yeah he needed a comeback win and said he quit against that was the latest one

Yeah yeah yeah yeah of course yep so good win for uh Daniel dubba he did eat some shots against uh big baby but he wasn’t in there with the most dynamic uh heavyweight in the world to say the least probably a good bounceback comeback fight for him how’d you like it

Well look it’s no secret Miller should probably do less talking and you know more training um and less eating in some areas maybe but um you know but listen I’ll give Miller credit for this uh he’s blown a lot of money in his career he’s underachieved people could say that’s

Fair that you know he had that chance to fight Joshua he tested positive Ruiz steps in Ruiz knocks out Joshua so he missed a boat on me Ruiz made about 1520 million as a result of that between the five he got for that night and then the 13 he got to go to

Saudi to defend it in the rematch it would uh that could have been all big baby’s money yeah he missed a boat on you could say on a career that could have been different uh but he you know he did it to himself for taking the

Things that he took and all of that he you know he’s he’s taken a lot of grief and and I get it he he’s he’s imposed it on on himself he’s brought it on himself with you know the way he talked and everything else and again his

Choices that he’s made it’s led to the things that it’s led to and the the the loss of opportunity all of that but at the end of the day I’m I understand all that and I’m and I just said it and I called him on it but I’m

Also going to say that he he’s showed heart I’m going to say that he’s got a hell a chin I’m going to say that yeah he wasn’t prepared properly you don’t need Teddy Atlas to tell you that you saw that I mean when when a man

Looks like he’d be could be wearing a sports bra you know you don’t you don’t need Teddy Atlas to tell you and jel Miller don’t need Teddy Atlas to tell him he’s got to live with his own ghost now uh whatever they may be or may not be

But he he had a plan in this fight he thought he was going to break the to to by just out willing him by putting pressure on him to just walk forward by becoming that Unstoppable physical Force where and and he knew he would take punishment to do it and he was willing

To take the punishment you know you he should be better trained and move his head and defend better okay you know he’s got to think about that if he goes forward the people that have that responsibility as his trainers he had one guy in the corner I don’t know why

Whatever his name was the guy that was with Chris cber who did not do a good job with cber so these guys he needs obviously is his approach could be questioned you’re going to press a guy move your freaking head More You Know cover up better you know faint once in a

While step out then step in his whole plan basically was almost a kamakazi plan where he was just going to walk into punches and duar fell down and tobar’s spirit was spent until he you know until he broke him and at the end of the day credit to

Du he got pressed he got pushed in that area but he didn’t break he had moments where I was wondering if he was going to start to break duah but at the end of the day his Corner his father whoever did a great great job of reminding him

Reminding him what the real fight was the real fight wasn’t against Miller the real fight was against Oba the real fight wasn’t to win a paycheck yeah he got paid good the real the real fight was to win back his respect the real fight wasn’t you know

About being in s Arabia uh and and again about being on a card with all these heavy the real fight was about Redemption that’s what the real fight was and and his father as Corner did a good job of remind I’m sure of remind him that every time it looked like he

Was disintegrating a little bit it looked like he was starting to break a little bit I’m sure they remind them hey that’s what this is about that’s what this this ain’t about today this is about how you’re going to live your life tomorrow and the day after and the day

After and the day how you going to feel about yourself as a man as a human being that’s what this is about and it’s your choice it was your choice when you gave in in the other fights that got you to this position well it’s your choice to

Get out of it now and to get out of it it’s not complicated you have to behave like a fighter you have to redeem yourself you have to make sure it’s not just a matter of what you do it’s a matter of what you don’t do you must not

Compete to late you must not submit and and he didn’t like I said it it looked like it was getting dicey there a couple times but I give toar so much credit because again he he F he fought for the right to have a life

To feel the way he wants to feel to have a life he fought for that he fought for his manhood so to speak he his dignity his future in that way in that way forget about with the money and everything else if you don’t have your dignity if you don’t have that that

Worth of yourself what do you have that’s what he fought for and that’s what he earned and that’s what he wanton and that’s what I’m giving him credit for and that’s what I recognized Miller he put all his eggs in one basket again where he really felt that if I

Just keep pushing his guy he’s going to he’s going to fall he’s going to fall he’s going to fall from from exhaustion mentally physically whatever but he’s just going to candidly that was his only hope was that Daniel DuBois was still wrestling with the ghosts of those defeats and those alleged quitting

Incidents because he wasn’t going to outbox him and out Talent him and he certainly wasn’t showing up trying to like outwork him at 333 lbs no but to the again that’s a perfect description though with all his eggs in one basket hoping that the guy was going to do

Something that was out of big baby’s control which is never a good plan to hope your opponent’s going to behave a certain way versus imposing your will on him well that’s what he was trying to do but to his credit he was willing to go

Into the Flames of hell to do it he might not he I know again it could have been done better that Miller’s got deficits mentally emotionally I’m sure technically you saw them uh coming in that heavy he’s got deficits we all to his are more apparent and and how deep

They run only he knows where they come from what they’re attached to in reality of what’s real confidence and what’s just bravado that he puts forward to hide things uh you I’m sure all those things are there to be found out I’m not there to find those things out today I’m

There just to point out and I’m here to point out that Miller did put his eggs in one bask I’m going to walk forward I’m going to become the Unstoppable force and deir is going to cooperate at some point he’s going to he’s going to fall apart and Miller was willing to

Take enormous punishment I’m telling you they better rest him he took awful punishment all night he took took up beating those last five rounds he he they better give him a CAT scan they better give him rest really he deserves it but more importantly he needs it from a

Responsible position of caring about a human being uh from a medical standpoint he needs to be rested and looked at he took enormous punishment and theak can punch he’s a good enough puncher he’s he’s a good fighter there was never a question about D knowing how to fight it was a question

What I said earlier can he behave like a fighter when the moment comes but he’s technically solid to he can box he can fight inside he can move his head make you miss in tight quarters or he could use his legs on the outside and look to

Counter punch he he’s a good good fighter and he’s shown that he’s shown it with Joyce when he was beating Joyce up to the point that he gave in he was shown it with uszi even though I thought usuzuk was winning the fight he was right there with usuzuk up to the point

That he that at the end of the day he what happened happened but this is the first time that he put it all together it reminded me a little bit about like Buster Douglas when he for Tyson and he pulled off that huge upset because Buster Douglas Ken was a

Talented fighter like Dua he could do everything he’s big he can box he could fight with you he could punch he could take a punch but when push came to shove against Tony tuo a few whatever a few other he he give in he got labeled a dog

A bad dog not the dog where they say in a good way the young people now oh he’s a dog back in a back in my day a dog wasn’t a good thing it was it was uh it was it was a bad thing that that you

That you didn’t fight the way they talk about fighting like a dog today that you quit that you gave in and they labeled basically a mut is what they would call and they label Buster that and then what did he do he redeemed himself he fought that night it wasn’t

About Tyson it was about buz the Douglas that night it was about buzer Douglas being able to live with himself the rest of his life about redeeming himself about feeling the way he needed to feel to have a life uh and and also about making his mother who had just died a

Few months earlier proud that that’s where he found his strength and that reminded me a little bit of duah that he found his strength this I don’t know if he’s going to have it again I don’t know because buz Douglas never had it again when he fought holy field for the

Heavyweight title he didn’t have it again he had it that night against Tyson I don’t know if D got it to to keep it now it’s up to him he knows now that he can depend on himself he knows now that he can behave that way as a fighter and

He can be proud of himself he knows that now I hope he doesn’t forget when the devil knocks at the door because the devil will knock at the door in another tough fight for him he will and I hope that he he can lock that door the way he

Locked it in Saudi Arabia the other night I really do I like him I I want to see him continue because he’s got the talent to be a top top guy if he continues to have the part we’re talking about to to go with that Talent um at the end of the

Day marvelous job again Miller just I give credit again you call him whatever you want to call him whatever you want to call him it’s fair he brought it on himself but man he’s got a good Shin man he showed some heart maybe

In a in a in a way that uh we we rather see it with we’d rather see that heart wrapped around all the other things to make it the full package but and maybe most of the heart was because he really thought the B was going to quit so he

Just kept going and going and going because he really feels the guy’s going to quit but the guy didn’t quit and at the end of the day D broke Miller down and broke him down physically and mentally especially physically catching him with those punches inside on the inside short clean punches so Toba

Toba for me he he won the I mean the big upset was Parker but the was the biggest winner because he won he he he won himself back he won himself back all right well in the comain Joseph Parker dominated Deontay Wilder all night long

He won 18 11 1810 and 120 108 on the three scorecards he entered the boat as a uh Wilder entered as a minus 700 favorite oh hold on Joseph Parker’s here one second Teddy let me get him hold on uh Merry Christmas guys Merry Christmas I don’t remember him getting hit that

Much apologies for ruining Christmas for um the promoters and for AJ but the grin showed up on the 23rd of December and spoiled the party I get it I get it he he did spoil the party but that’s a that’s a good one Ken but here’s the

Thing there’s no spoiling a party of your Joshua and your Eddie Hearn because I’ve said it a million times Joshua can fight anybody because he did his part he got rid of whan and by getting rid of he’s back in the minds of the fans and

They love him and I love the fans he’s back the best that AJ’s looked in ages but we’ll get to him I know he’s back and he’s the greatest again and there’s no arguing with that and so even though you’re right that it took away the

Wilder payday par could did him a favor because if Wilder hits Joshua on the chin it’s a lot different than well and hitting him who knows sure who knows what would happened that was still a risky fight even though Parker beat him and took him apart the way he did credit

To Parker credit to his trainer uh Andy Lee for having a great fight plan and executing it but if if he if there if judh was in there with wilder I I’m sure that they’re relieved in a quiet way they never admitt it they don’t have to take

That risk they don’t have to take that risk they don’t have to face that that that hydrogen bomb possibly exploding in their face so in that way he was done a favor and as far as the gringe being I get it ruing is Christmas because of the payday there’s nothing but Payday for

Joshua Joshua I’ve said it before he can fight the door man at the King’s Arms and he’s going to put 70,000 people in Wembley Stadium now if he fights somebody else he’ll put 100,000 and they’re still aiming for that Fury fight and and that if that ever happens that

Would be the biggest that’ be the biggest Bonanza MoneyWise probably in the history of boxing it would be a lot bigger if Fury can beat usyk which I don’t think big thing he has to get past him uh for it to be that that’s that’s the thing but getting back to this fight

Par give credit to Parker I I’m not here to knock Wilder but I said he was fighting on ESPN he hated I was going to say one quick thing you’ve been saying for a long time that he really doesn’t know how to fight he’s just got that one

Big punch and I feel like more than ever against Parker he was exposed he just didn’t have any answers at all for Parker he’s just kind of loading up on that hoping to throw onew one two but when he didn’t hit it at times he was actually like Hammer punching uh Parker

Just like the refere refere should have stopped that that was dangerous you shouldn’t allowed that that was just for that one spot in the last round or the next to last round whatever but look Wilder I said it you know he he hated me and a and I think he’s matured a little

Bit I think he has grown up a little bit to be honest but I I give him credit for that but because the way he used to act and talk before that I had no use for it I I just didn’t but I gave him his dues

He could punch I even called him the nobody else called him the hardest punch in the history of heavyweights before I did before I did and and I said that I gave him that kind of ribbon I gave him those kind of flowers but he didn’t like

The other stuff and he people think I’m hating I’m not hating I’m doing my job and I’m telling the truth and I’m not afraid to tell the truth I I don’t care about going along to get along I don’t care about people liking me I don’t care

About I care about knowing that I can trust myself that I can go to bed at night knowing that I I was not in any way influenced by anything other than my opinion that I I wasn’t influenced by how much money I could make what kind of

Job I could get who would hire me who would like me I was influenced by telling the fans what my job is to tell them what I know from my experience of 50 years in boxing to be the truth and what I believe doesn’t mean I’m right

But what it’s not influenced by any agenda that I’m proud of and I’ll try to stay that way till I freaking drop dead and I but I said on ESPN again he didn’t know how to fight he never really got taught or at least he didn’t learn put it that

Way I don’t know what they were teaching him but he didn’t learn the things that you need to learn to be more than just a big banger and he fought the right guys they gave him the right guys to fight and he banged them out and he had a

Trouble with Ortiz and he got to Ortiz late Ortiz was 40 but he was a southp good fighter good uh good amateure fighter good puncher and he finally got TZ he fought him twice he knocked him out you know he was losing probably the first seven rounds and then he knocked

Him out in the eighth round I think that was their second fight he’s but he fought a lot of guys which they all do that really was not not indicative of how good he was it was just that they were guys that he could hit and he knocked them out but

When he fought guys that he could knock out like Fury and you know obviously Paul Canal some of those shortcomings really came to the surface they really came they came home to roost if you will and I think that again you use the right word that he he got

Exposed but I think he’s been exposed before that that if he can’t hit you he’s got a problem and look he’s got heart he’s got plenty of heart and he behaves like a fighter which is important to me and to everybody and he and he’s he’s got good enough

Speed and you know and he’s got a good chin he’s proven that but when you have a plan and when you know how to fight and you know how to avoid his his one thing that you have to avoid if you’re going to fight wild the right

Hand when you know how to do that you got to win you have an automatic W against him you know how and it’s not easy because you got to go you got to go through 12 rounds of walking through minefields making sure you don’t blow yourself up that’s what par I’m

Sure his great trainer Andy Lee the former World Champ who’s done a great job with Parker since he took over I’m sure that his heart was in his throat for those so every round like oh my God because he came close to walking into a mine there’s a couple times he reached

In he and water just missed him he leaned forward he just missed him with an uppercut just missed him coming in with a right hand there was a couple even in the last round oh my God he Paul pull back his hands a little loose straight back from from the clinch

Two times I was like oh my God what is he doing what is he doing the and the punch just missed him but listen all credit I’m not here to knock Wen wer is a multi multi-millionaire he it’s always going to be in the history books that he

Was a heavyweight champ of the world and he won a bronze medal in the Olympics God bless him credit to you if you retired tomorrow deante good career great career congratulations be happy with your life if you come back good luck but what I’m saying is based on truth

Nothing else and Parker took advantage of that and Parker walk through minefields give Parker credit for that being that man that could do that and give his credit to his trainer they had the right fight plan and Parker executed it they and they did it they yeah you

Got to be careful but you also have to create offense they did both they did both what he did there Parker did he pressed the fight but C cautiously aggressive carefully properly Little Steps couple times he reached in oh it almost was a disaster but other than that he was under control

He had his legs under him he was coming in controlled he was coming in prepared not not just walking in where he could leave him self exposed to that great right hand and I’ll tell you even a couple times when he jumped in with lead right hands he did it smart people going

To say teddy what are you talking about you just talked you shouldn’t jump in no if a guy is pulling back then you could jump in with him and catch him pull him back those couple spots again W doesn’t do technically things doesn’t do things technically correct as a fighter so the

Couple times when he pulled back what did he do he he came in with lead right hand he being Parker and he nailed him and it looked like he was jumping in no he was coming in at the right time the time of opportunity the time that him

And his trainer prepared the gym that they knew would be there for them when water would expose himself and make himself vulnerable by Crossing his legs stepping straight back where you could go with him he’s not set to punch and you can catch him with the right hand

And did and he caught him he caught him throughout the fight he did enough offense at the same time he was a he was conservative enough he was buttoned up enough not to get caught anything big and uh and he did it for 12 rounds and and again the mental pressure when

You’re fighting a guy that dangerous Ken you have no idea people out there have no idea of the mental pressure you go you age 10 years I know know his trainer age 10 years poor Andy poor Andy he was like 45 going into he’s 55 now I mean

Because you know what the risk is you you even if you’re executing and you and you’re making it look easy you know it’s not easy you know the danger and um I give them nothing but really props for doing that job under those circumstances uh he he went to the body

Well too he mixed in some good body work Parker uh again he almost knocked out water he almost got he almost got The Knockout what round was it I want to be accurate but it was uh eighth round I believe uh where W hurt where w got hurt

Badly um in the eighth and yeah I think it was the eth I think it was the eighth round he got hurt really bad in the E Parker tried to finish him um and he set up the big right hand that hurt waterer again I always talk about the delivery

System not just the power but the delivery system and sure enough Parker had the delivery system he set up the big right hand that heard water in the eighth round by bending low and tricking him getting his eyes to drop a little bit and then he threw high and he caught

Him with that punch so marvelous job by Parker uh why one thing I will throw in there and it’s only fair he is 38 years old taking nothing away from Parker but he is 38 years old and he has been you talked about it earlier Ken and

Rightfully so we both did but I brought it up and then you talked about better be of getting old but he hasn’t been in a lot of wars and the pros right W has W has he’s 38 years old but he was in those Wars with f Fury where

He got dropped in those last two fights he got knocked out in his last two fights with Fury and he got dropped he got off the floor show the heart of a warrior he dropped Fury in the last one but he wound up being knocked out he he

Took huge punishment in those Fury fights and you know what it it you leave the ring minus some of yourself and I think he left the ring in those two fights minus some of himself I I don’t think he he’s fully got back everything he lost in those Fury fights for what

It’s worth and again still dangerous as hell Parker went in there you know he went into the lion’s cage and he came out alive he he you know with with the teeth of the lion around his neck he made a necklace out of it um so credit

To him for doing that and and having the the gumption the the mentality the confidence the discipline uh to do it but I I will in all FS to water I don’t care if you don’t like me or not I I always want to be fair 38 years old tough fights with

Fury you know he’s he’s had something taken out of him but and then something more now with Parker but great job by Parker I I the 12th round Wilder was desperate and you brought it up Ken he Hammer fisted I don’t know how the referee didn’t War

Him for hammerfist and you’re not in the MMA come on what are you doing uh but W was trying right to the end to get The Knockout and um and he he just couldn’t get it yep and that brings us to the end well before we get into the main event let’s

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Enough credit look what it does look at the body and look look at the hair look at the hair would you look at that hair I mean really you want to have hair you want to have a body it turns gray a little bit on the sides but at 52 what

Am I going to do but um look at that I mean really and oh and the gringe I think the gringe was drinking it I griny griny does double servings this time of year he’s taking two two a day he’s busy as a son of a be it showed it showed it

Showed you might want to send a package of that to Baby Miller but okay go on before we get into the breakdown of the fight I just want to say quickly when we give our opinions on the fight I have no problem with Anthony Joshua I

Don’t dislike him at all I actually like him I have a lot of respect for him I thought after the performance of OT wall put in against Fury and the way Joshua had looked in his previous fights I thought all OT Wallen might get the upset here to the British fans Who

Attack mercilessly you’re a grown man attacking me for having an opinion like Anthony Joshua doesn’t even know if you’re alive relax man this not a personal thing I have no problem with any Fighters I just tell you what I think with that being said Anthony Joshua looked as good for me as I’ve

Ever seen him Otto Wallen looked equally as bad but I don’t want to take away from Joshua’s performance I thought he looked phenomenal I’m dying to hear what you think Teddy but for me Anthony Joshua looked like he could beat anyone in the division um congratulations to

Anthony Joshua super nice guy seems like a great guy by all accounts great win for him OT wall and I’m disappointed I thought he looked soft I didn’t think his body looked very fit compared to what I’ve seen him how I’ve seen him look um surprised that

Wasn’t in better condition but I’m dying to hear what you thought of AJ’s performance what you thought of auto wallen’s performance and everything associated with it yeah look there’s a movie what’s that movie out there Rob you’re going to get it up for me maybe or

Um so and so Got Her Groove Back right Stella yeah some How Stella Got Her Groove Back yeah well this is about how Joshua got his groove back that’s it that’s the headline here Joshua got his groove back and when I say Groove Ken it’s all one word

Confidence he got his confidence back that’s why he looks I I’m with you this is the best he’s looked in a long time and it’s because he got his groove back because he got his confidence back and part of it is wallan I’m not afraid to

Go there part of it is Wallen but he did the job Joshua taking nothing away from him and Eddie Hearn they do a great job but and and and Davidson his trainer now uh I don’t know who’s going to be his trainer after this because he had gone

With the other guy that was with Spence and then he left him he went to Davidson now he’s supposed to go back to to James who had spent wasn’t he with um and wasn’t he with Robert Garcia for a minute well I don’t know I don’t know I

Think he he he changed his trainers the way I you change track shoes but at the end of the day part of him getting his confidence back has been a progression working with guys that he’s working with getting fights progressively moving forward getting back to that place

Hopefully but i’ be i’ be not me and not telling you the the full facts if I didn’t say part of it is whing and I I’ll tell you what I mean by that Styles make fights that’s part of it but also Well’s not a puncher and I think

Knowing that he couldn’t punch that Joshua was a little easier for him to to be what he needed to be which is the boss again he hasn’t been a boss for a while and and to be the boss again that’s the best way I could say it and

He was the boss again it took him a minute but then he hurt well and with the body shot and I could see it I say oh he knows he could take charge he knows he could be the Joshua that he wants to be he has been in other words

He can be the conductor of this Orchestra instead of just part of the orchestra where you know the music is playing and he’s just going with the music no he needs to be the conductor of the music the conductor of the orchestra and for the first time in a while he was

To conduct he took those things what do you call those sticks what do you call those damn things you you go to the Opera every Friday come on what’s the every Saturday whatever I’m sure you got those glasses that you flick out and you look from the Opera box uh from that

Special Box come on the Opera Opera goggles yeah goggles whatever they are remember what was that pretty woman where where Julia Roberts where where gear had her up in the Opera box and and he gave him to her she’s going how do you work these things and she’s going

Like this and they’re flipping all over the place you know and then finally I will say that is that is one thing that I have never attended an opera I’ve never even seen one but I would love to go well we’ll have to go I hav but I

Haven’t seen one we’re going to that be good you and I have a team team Opera outing yeah call pelli up and tell him we want to call whatever all right so he he he had he didn’t those sticks that you use as a conductor obviously he

Didn’t need them it was him it was his fist but he he became he pushed a fight he he was he was in control of himself and therefore he was in control of the fight he used his jab to set punches up to go to the body to push wh and back when

He’s by way that that stick is called the uh the Baton the conductor’s Baton is what you’re looking for well he had the conductor’s Baton working overtime and right and and he and somebody took those batons away from him a while ago and he got them back

And he’s better when he’s going pushing a fight and he was pushing a fight aggressively smart good technique but he was in charge and he was aggressive not just physically but mentally you could see that that he was looking for opportunities when he wasn’t pressing back you know what he was doing

He was countering it was a beautiful mix he would press him back a little bit go to the body press him back behind the jab look for the right hand and then all of a sudden he take a little step back create a little Gap and look for the counter

And get the counter so he had both gears working cuz that’s how Works in boxing when you got one gear working the next gear comes into play Falls right into place where you’re pressing a guy now that’s going to set up the back end the front end is you’re pressing you’re

Setting up your combination the back end is now you can look for counters because now the guy’s going to get a little bit over anxious he’s going to look to land a big shot to make up ground and now over a sudden you got opportunities to

Do some counter punching so you got the front end the back end he had the front end the back end working he had it all working and he was getting better and better and until finally Wallen you know he he he got to him in the I think it

Was the fifth round uh where he got to him and then they stopped it in a corner I don’t know if the fighter stopped it or the corner stopped it it doesn’t matter but they stopped in the corner what was it after four or after five I

Think it was after five where where they stopped it but uh one sec keep going keep going I’ll conf bottom line is look Joshua was better in all areas you know with Waller but he’s better in all areas with a lot of guys but he doesn’t always

Show it because you don’t always have those batons in his hand he’s not always the conductor when he’s the conductor he’s a damn good fighter uh obviously he had more talent in all areas power speed he made it through five rounds and then Joey gam much stopped the fight but you

Could see when he walked back into the corner gam much just looked at him and was like yeah that’s enough like when this ain’t it ain’t happening but I like Joey gamachi had Supreme confidence in saying like yeah you’re done this is what we we ain’t this ain’t happening

Today he was banged up as nose yeah exactly it’s the way it’s supposed to be not a conversation no more Talent power speed fought a confident smart fight um again he had the batons back that that’s it I don’t I don’t have to over State this fight I think the fans if you

Should be satisfied with what I just said I you probably say oh why didn’t you go on Teddy you’ve you’ve knocked them in the past why didn’t you go on for an extra half hour it’s not necessary your man your man was was terrific but he was what he’s he’s what

He’s supposed to be he was in charge of the man himself he had the batons in his hand he had the confidence he behaved like a confident fighter not just the guy with a great body not just the guy who’s won the gold medal in the Olympics

Not just the guy who’s probably made a hundred million doar God bless him him and whatever whatever not just that he behaved like a guy who wanted to be in charge he behaved like a guy who wanted to you know maybe be a champion again when you saw that performance what

It did it change your opinion at all of uh usk knowing how usk dispatched him twice no because I know what usk is usk knows how to win he’s one of the great winners of all time in boxing he won the gold medal in Olympics he won all the

Cruiserweight titles put them all together Consolidated the cruiserweight title and then he did what evanda holfield did he went up to heavyweight and he won the heavyweight title um and and he and he did it in foreign territory over in England not once but twice all of his fights are in foreign territory

No one’s coming to Ukraine to fight usyk does usyk beat Tyson Fury I think Tyson Fury the best thing that ever happened to him was that bad performance in S I think that I think that gave him a wakeup call I think that he’ll be he’ll

Be the best he could be now if he didn’t lose that well he didn’t lose it but if he didn’t have that bad performance I think he he might be sleepwalking uh on on on usk thinking he’s too big for him believing all the Press clippings and just go in there not

Ready mentally a fight is not ready mentally he’s not ready I don’t give a damn what he is physically and he might have went in there not ready he’s going to be ready now he’s going to be it’s going to be very interesting it’s going to be very interesting he may have

Gotten the decision win but I mean short of losing the fight outright that was as bad outcome as he could have hoped for to have a controversial like razor thin decision against a guy who’s never had an amate I didn’t think he was razor thin I thought that I give all the

Credit to in the world but I I think he won two rounds but look he won the night you know why because he dropped him and he did what nobody expected him to do he went the distance and he made a competitive fight so that alone made

People say oh he must have won oh he must have won oh he won well no if you look at it and and you break it down and you really look at it and don’t react to it no actually he won two rounds but he

Won a he won two good rounds he dropped him in the third and then I think he won a big eighth round if my memory serves me correctly and he be in a ganu but it doesn’t matter Fury won a fight but the guy who won the crowd and won the moment

Was definitely in ganu um so and talk about Redemption Fury has that on his side now he’s looking for little redemption in that category a little bit he’s got that going for him it’s going to make a very interesting fight with usk uh I like both guys I like Fury I

Like him as a person I like him as a personality um a promoter a fighter everything he’s done his story he he’s he’s an uplifting story he’s a Survivor story he’s a he he’s a he’s a story for all people to hear that when you’re down and out to the point where you’re

Thinking about taking your own life which he was at that point and you’re down and out don’t don’t don’t do it don’t do it there’s you always have a chance to turn it around you always have a chance to get back up he was on the floor looked like an eternity in that

First fight with wilder an eternity in the 12th round but he got up and I’m sure his life was passing in front of him at that moment that’s what made Fury that moment that moment made Fury Fury but I’m sure his life was passing in

Front of and it was only 9 seconds he got up at 98 but it felt like it was n years like like his whole life and I’m sure he was thinking do I get up do I not get up Do I Live do I die what do I

Do here and then he said no I live I live and when I say live I I mean I don’t mean literally like his heart was going to stoping he’s going to die physically I mean live I mean go after life I mean don’t just survive I don’t I

Mean don’t just exist I mean that you go out there and you give life everything you got and he made that choice to do that he and he was he was close to two years earlier a year earlier even less of of taking his own life he was having

Drug problem with problems with alcohol drug his life was spiraling downwards he was in deep deep deep depression and he came out of it so he’s a great human interest story he’s a great story again he’s a great example to people never give up never give up

Never give up the only time it’s over is when you say it’s over otherwise there’s still a chance to make a comeback no matter how Bleak things seem no matter how dark the moment seems there’s still a chance to find light and he’s he’s a

He’s a poster child for that yep so I love both guys I love uzzi I love that he’s he’s got something he’s fighting for a country he’s not just fighting for himself he’s fighting to bring hope I know he’s not out there with a gun people say oh Teddy’s not out there with

A gun he might be out there with a gun I don’t know but I’m not saying he’s out there with a gun what I’m saying is he’s fighting in a way that he’s given his people who are going through hell he’s giving them hope that he’s giving them hope that

They can attach thems to him a little bit in that kind of way so that’s a powerful thing in itself and I wouldn’t I would never bet against that and and he’s a solid fighter yeah he’s a smaller guy but he’s a solid guy he he’s solid in all Dimensions fights inside fights

Outside uses his legs he’s meent together they’re both mly tough uh it’s going to be a hell of an interesting fight but I’ve said it before the greatest thing usuzuk knows how to do it’s not the jab his jab is very important it’s probably his key

Punch but it’s his ability to win he knows how to win he’s got a PhD in winning and fury does too what what else is interesting is and and I’m not going to go deep into it now but I I broke the fight down I think enough with well and

Joshua congratulations to the fans over there congratulations to Joshua to Eddie Hearn but it’s going to be interesting who does he fight now that’s going to be interesting who does he fight now because now it’s not going to be wilder and I think it turned out to be a good

Thing but I said that early on that he don’t have to take that risk now um obviously the fury fight if that ever happened with Fury beating using forget about it it’s going to be the biggest fight in the history of the sport uh MoneyWise everything in that regard I

Think they have to wait and see what happens no sense in schedule in AJ and Parker if who if Fury wins that fight I think he’s fight par where is Parker has to fit in somewhere he’s going to get he’s got to fit in he earned it but I

Don’t think it’s Parker right now he already beat Parker saying maybe hergovich well here’s the thing that’s probably what it’s going to be because hergovich is the number one one Contender he’s undefeated and and yeah I know he’s the number one Contender he’s undefeated I thought he lost to the

Chinese fighter Wy I I don’t think I don’t think that much of herin I I think Joshua takes him apart that’s my feeling but I’m with you he’s undefeated he’s the number one Contender but he was supposed to be promised the winner being the number one Contender he was supposed

To be promised the winner of of um of music and and fury and so I know they can do whatever they can they can you know they they can do whatever they can um if Fury wins that fight AJ Fury makes they get 50 to 100 million each I

Think in wimbley yeah but here’s the thing her herid I believe was promised a winner of like I just said Fury and uzzi um that’s right but it’d be easy to get him to probably take because they could do anything they control the organizations right they got the they

They could get they G to get herich to fight Fury I mean to fight um Parker no to to fight um Joshua because you can’t make more money than you can make with Joshua even even you fight for the title people say well he’s going to fight for

The title against the winner of usk and Joshua I mean mus and fury but if you fight Josh Wood there’s no way you’re going to get he’s like Canelo there’s nowhere I mean Fury between him and fury they’re they’re the biggest money makers obviously in heavyweight Division and

It’s attached to being in London that’s a big part of it because they’re huge over there but Joshua You could argue that he’d make more money or you could make an argument and Hearn could make that argument by making it happen where herovic could make more money to fight

Joshua so Y and and and they and they put some tag on it even though usyk and fury is supposed to be for the all the heavyweight straps they they do something they call it something and say okay you know he’s a uh the winner of

Usk and fury is a champion in recess and while the champion in recess is in recess we’re going to make fur we’re going to make Joshua and herovic for the the heavyweight champion that’s not in recess I’m I’m just saying uh they could do whatever they want they could say and

Then the winner of that of course fights you know the other fight but uh I know that Hearn had mentioned herig so I would put my money that somehow they’re going to work that out because that would have to be figured out a little bit it it seems a little bit convoluted

But boxing always seems a little convoluted and money always all money always unconv Lutes it right at the end of the day that’s right so I I don’t know but there’s a few interesting fights out there um Parker’s got to be in there though he’s got to be

In the mix and somewhere whatever but it it always comes down to the money uh who whoever can make the most money the other guy get his shot but the most money one will probably try to be put to the put to the front of the line yeah uh

One quick thing I forgot to point out that when uh greeni left he left me these uh these shoes I don’t know if you can see them but oh there oh yeah oh wow can you run in those can you can you do 26 miles on those those are uh rebok

Insta pumps from uh the 80s I think but um shout out to Reebok for the beautiful shoes I’ll tell you one thing if you wear those shoes you better if you wear those shoes you better be a to run that’s right you wear those shoes around here I’ll bring you to a few

Neighborhoods you wear those you better be able to run and I don’t mean a fight and I don’t mean a marathon I mean a freaking Sprint exactly um well it’s Christmas Eve as we mentioned earlier we will have the episode up on Tuesday but Teddy I know if you have the kids there

You’re dying to get with those kids and start taking part in all the festivities it’s been a a great year we’ll have one more show before the year ends but uh Merry Christmas to everyone Merry Christmas to you teddy and our producer extraordinaire the great Rob

Moore Chas that’s all I got Teddy you got anything before we say goodbye yeah Merry Christmas like you said and I said at the top Merry Christmas to everybody happy new New Year uh God bless everybody we wish you nothing but but happiness and health and um and patience

Patience uh you know and and love patience and love you know I think those are two good things to to try to strive for in the new year and understanding I’ll throw that in there very good point well I’ve got a ton of Christmas uh presents to wrap up although my wife has

Done 99.9 % of all of it I have to wrap her gifts but I’m dying to see what the kids got for Christmas like most dads I know what I got I know what I got from I know that’s beautiful in the background

Wow I know what I got uh from you uh and I don’t really need it but I it’s the thought that counts but I don’t need any more athletic greens but thank you anyway um you know the package arrived I got uh another beautiful uh package from

The ride out family uh uh athletic my my grandchildren says not athletic greens again Papa I said well yeah I said they’re good I know they’re good Papa but you you got a lot of them you got a lot of them said I know but you Ken is

Ken wants to make sure I don’t run short that’s it well have a merry Christmas everyone Teddy thanks for everything I will uh I will talk to you this week Merry Christmas Merry Christmas you and your family Rob and his family everybody God Bless to we our so we just St into the sun theal ofun