On today’s episode of The Mid Show we are joined by former NBA player Shawn Marion to talk about some of the best teams he’s played for, his college career + draft class, and some of his favorite memories growing around Chicago. Shawn also explained to White Sox Dave a theory as to when he stopped growing. We also get into how the Chicago Bears are so bad this season they are a statistical anomaly.
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Presented by Miller Light uh regular crew today we will also be joined by uh NBA champion sea Maran Wan guy uh later on in the show so shout out to him for stepping in he did a Three-Point Contest with us on Monday I think it wash sucked
Him yeah oh that’s not nice that’s true he he didn’t win I don’t think he got to the no he did I think they just placed him there did he based on status I don’t I think you only made like seven or eight poor athletes that come to the
Office that’s a lose lose that’s what I was going to say I was like I don’t I’m surprised like he’s a good sport for a green That’s a classic your comedian tell me a joke yeah yeah for sure especially the basketball guy cuz I was
Going to say like you said he suck I was like that’s not nice but I was like if you said I suck cuz I just did it to I’d be like yeah you’re right yeah but then again I don’t but I I hold him to a
Higher standard than I hold you as you should if he wins it’s like of course he won if he loses like the hell it’s there’s no upside exactly but I really enjoyed talking to him yeah he was Co he’s good dude how many who so you did
It Monday I did it Monday how many did you have five five I think and then who won Titus Titus how many he have 20 or yeah [ __ ] good and then we just did it today Sydney won she had 16 the first round 15 the second round 14 the second
What you have eight I had nine nine yeah I Sydney’s good at [ __ ] she destroyed me in darts earlier she she’s very very athletic and bowling she destroy she good at bowling yeah she’s got it like down she like does this little front Lane and like yeah she has the shooters
Touch that little she like yeah it’s it’s one thing for you know a girl to be athletic but to be good at like bar games she she’s good at pool right d you said she probably kill us in bags yeah not NE I think if you’re going
To do like an office decathlon of all the stuff that we have here if it was soccer she played college softball soccer golf basketball softball softball softball oh so if you’re going to do like all the different games that we have here I think you made an argument
She’s the number one pick she’d be up there for sure likeon type deal yeah yeah that’s what I said the cathlon of all the events that we have that we could possibly come up with here because she can throw a ball she she can hit a driver a little a
Little hasit tin on defense against a girl yeah no I think I and but you’re right I haven’t seen her play play bags but I bet you she’s good at that too yeah probably probably blow darts all the above well I’ve seen her do the blow
Darts she’s very good she’s very got her own line what do you know that’s not a lie that’s actually true should probably beat Edam Bachi fight words that’s the ultimate T she she gifted me a a blow dart like a blow gun same I gifted it to my dad yeah
And I gave it to my dad and he just I go to my dad’s house and I’ll just see all the darts and the trees in the backyard and all the your father’s like in the merket for dad’s been at war with squirrels for about seven years now all
Right that makes sense yeah but like he I just gave it to my dad for entertainment purposes the like which is effectively what I did because the the odds of my dad hitting a squirrel it’s less is it for his entertainment or your entertainment well I don’t get to see it
But I like the idea of him trying think think about it [ __ ] getting all dad mad but I will say like I like to see like my dad gets fired up I I do get a kick out of it I’m on on his side with these squirrels like enough enough is enough
This is this is a war he’s been losing for a long time he’s had to they had so our house was uh was stucco they had caused so much damage like they had trees removed so they couldn’t get onto the roof they like burrowed into the
Attic they like they spawned up there it it’s been a disaster to the point that they had they decided to like brick the house because they were like spending so much money repairing the stucco like we just have to get rid of the stucko and just make it until they just lose that
War of attri and move out and declare the squirrels Victorious I think my dad has been ment my dad’s been ready to be a refugee for a long time on this battle but my mom they live like five miles down the road from my sister with the
With her grandkids obviously so my mom’s like you’re just you’re trapped against the squirrels this this will this is the 100 Years War yeah there you have and that’s not a war I’m sad to say I he’s win he not going to win he he’s thefe like he’s he’s
Throwing his glove on the field at this point like he knows he’s he’s up against it he can’t win but yeah she’s really good yeah yeah it’s talking girls and squirrels talking girls and squirrels you’re right what do you think you would go for what three point
Ah what’d you get Chief I got nine today ah i’ I’d be happy with like six it depends you have an off day with three you have an on day with those money balls make a huge my only goal was to not finish last don’t be the guy that
Fin last P had zero yeah Jerry had won I think okay yeah I thought Jerry was going to do better because he’s been doing all these late night shooting things and he was good when he did the Three-Point Shootout like I think his Target was like 18 or something and he
Made like 12 sometimes I think you give someone like 10 minutes to practice their threes and they get like half as good the next time to trying you’s got you need to warm up with there was no warm up did you have a warm up no I was
The first one to go too too oh [ __ ] I had the chicken in my mouth too and then everybody knew the strategy after me you did have the they were ripping on me I’m like dude make sure you chew the chicken before you shoot and they’re all like oh
No [ __ ] idiot I’m like no you don’t understand you’re going to start moving without even realizing before you shoot and all of a sudden you got a mouthful of chicken and you can’t shoot and swallow at the same time and everybody after me did it and they’re like I
Should have listened to you you have the deadly deep breath where you’re tired and you need to and you have that mouth you got and you’re trying to get it through your nose but your nose like like the cavity isn’t big enough to take in all the air you want yeah inhale that
Chicken I was talking about this with Bader at uh dinner yesterday you know Bader he’s been on the show a few times uh it’s like a ride of passes for chicagoan to choke on gano’s cheese have you guys ever done that M uh not on jono
Specifically but I had when I was like seven or eight I think I’ve talked about it on here before I had to be given the himim like in a in a restaurant from a mozzarella stick how embarrassing oh it was it was like horrifying and I had
Like like The Yips about EA mozzarella sticks for like 20 years that’s a horrible those are the like good A1 food those are top tier yeah it was scary fried cheese two best combos can’t beat it no yeah you need a medic on staff first time
I have you seen someone you never tooked down I worked at Alum malates too so same thing for different cheese though like is it string a string a oh dude yeah easier inhale yes I haven’t been to J Donald’s it’s way Stringer that’s a good call I never thought about that
They do have the even like when you P when you when you cut the slice and you pull it out it’s it’s a spider web coming off of there yeah that thing will stretch to the Moon yeah it really will I don’t you think it’s the best cheese
Yes the perfect yeah I told I said it before the perfect deep dish is their cheese uh goo z sauce uh lumel Na’s buttercrust and then PE quads and Birch why PE quads and Birch uh rimmed uh burnt cheese burnt ends you know what I
Mean do but you could get that with a lose just by getting well done probably they they do something where they bring the cheese all the way up to the crust so you get it like actually I don’t think I like that actually really yeah I think I want a little like crust
Crust uh it’s good yeah I mean I think berts is the best in I haven’t had BS that’s what they do but I get what you mean yeah had birs last week for the first time pretty good what what what spot did it make on your list it was up
There one one yeah oh wow okay didn’t like Anthony Bourdain go out like yeah he said it’s the only deep dish he’s truly loved yeah wow yeah and uh yeah it’s just really good it was CU it was the guy who made pequin and goers it was his like final creation before he
Magnumopus goers I think that’s in the suburbs by you like that was before he died that was his last I know that name let me look it up it’s out there by Oakbrook sh wish yeah that was like his last thing um I had something on that
Note have you dude choking is scary scarring especially when you’re seeing someone choke too and you’re just like I think thankfully now we know what to do more it is I I was at a restaurant this was probably in September where a kid was out to lunch with like his mom or
Grandma she was like a older lady and she started choking like at the table like I’m saying like it’s tight quarters in the restaurant so I’m sitting here she’s sitting right there like less than a foot from me starts choking like stands up like d you know like the chair
Falls back she’s slamming the table and I like stand up and like her son runs around it’s like Mom like how old son son was probably late 20s oh okay like a doll yeah she was in her 60s and I like called 911 and then she like got
Whatever was choking like out but it it was like the whole restaurant stopped like you have to you’re you’re on like a 2minute shot clock yeah is that how long it is I mean how long does it take you to [ __ ] Yeah couple minutes you’re on
A shot clock got to get it out of there but I’d say this ordeal lasted 30 seconds and it felt like 10 minutes I bet yeah oh yeah that’s horrifying when food okay four to five minutes but bet you’re unconscious there yeah look at that permanent brain Dam damage can
Happen after 30 seconds yeah and that’s a strangulation this is when food I don’t know how different it is but I think we’re just talking about oxygen flow to the brain you food or some other foreign object BEC stuck in the air way it can be cause choking choking prevents
Oxygen from getting to the lungs in the brain lack of oxygen to the brain more than four minutes may cause brain damage or death you got that’s a shock yeah oh yeah I’ve said before the first 30 seconds is also like all right can I
Handle this on my own or is this going to be embarrassing enough to where I have to seek help from someone next to me like by that it’s been four minutes since we started this conversation basically yeah yeah I wonder how many people die from that year like they’re
Just home alone I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s near the largest causes of death in the country that’s a new Fair unlocked you never thought about that no cuz I I’ll do that if I’m having a riye and there’s like the little fat piece in there sometimes sometimes it just you
Take you don’t chew it right and you can get goes like halfway I’m [ __ ] sticking my my fingers down my throat and puking so I’ve never been good at that you got 4500 to 5,000 choking related deaths in United States every year he choking he choking he
Choking half of them are from the Bulls and bearss got uh have you ever seen the uh the device that like pumps it out of you so there was this invention this person made was like a suction cup yes yes and it’s for kids it’s like a plunger yeah
Cuz you know like that’s like yeah that’s a good point one of the most terrifying things when you see a baby like do it they’ve never been able there’s only one time it’s been used and it’s on video it was du successfully so like there’s no proof of anything else
Besides that it’s way too spur the moment to be like looking around the house for this device well it’s not like you that’s something you can test exactly that’s the point where that’s the only successful time it’s worked honestly pull up the video L it’s [ __ ] crazy they’re not making rat I
Don’t want I don’t want to watch why it’s it’s a it’s a hero it’s a baby choking I don’t want to watch something like that this guy’s got some Humanity he he lives that she lives come on we’ll [ __ ] sing uh that’s it yeah but you don’t still you don’t want
To watch someone choke we turn on [ __ ] Foo Fighters there Goes My Hero oh uh dude it a wild video they’re like in a diner and they so it is kind of like a plung yeah I don’t know if this is that’s not quite is that that’s joking baby first one
Inside Edition even the news won’t show it there it is oh it’s a cute baby too yeah dude it’s [ __ ] up kind of they got to whack this thing knock the baby out unconscious what is this in a McDonald’s or something I don’t know but this is it
And like how do you even tell when a baby’s choking so this guy yeah that’s what I was that was my first question see look at this guy in the black dude what a hero goes up [ __ ] darts out of there he knew he had had it yeah he had in his
Car yes dude how lucky is this family right that that of all the places to if that guy’s parked more than a block away that that baby’s this is this unrelated but kind of related obviously this is like such an Eddy video yeah like there’s five people in the room no one
Else has heard of this video except for you and you’re like dude you got to see this video like of course you security excuse me for seeing a video that 133 million people have seen I bet you you’re a million of those view look now he gets Meets the Baby
Again save the baby’s life that’s pretty unreal I would love to save someone’s life one day so I could hold it over their head the rest of their lives like hey I me they do owe him now yeah you know you kind of owe me I say that to I
Was with my my other buddy Ryan and we he had like his kids were like I don’t know 8 n months old like not walking and one of them was like trying to walk and like stood up and was falling backwards and I was sitting on
The ground with the other twin and I like kicked my leg out like soccer like H you know kick saving a beauty and like caught the baby’s head like on the top of my foot and little baby was like cried for a second hacky sacked it yeah
Basically yeah and I’m like so every time I see him I’m like well you can get this WR cuz I saved your kid’s life exactly yeah dude it’s insane that babies don’t get hurt that they don’t die more yes yes I agree I hate to say
That but it’s true it’s true well I look up the infant infant mortality is going up too is it yeah first time in like US history that infant first time in like a 100 years infant mortality is going up up we get real dark here but we’ll we
We’ll stray away 3% higher than in 2021 nothing like talking dead babies before the break you know how many dead babies it takes to paint a house I don’t know da it depends on how hard you throw them Ed Ah that’s an old joke yeah kind of kind
Of crazy that dead baby jokes were just a thing at one point too yeah I think they still are I I don’t know I feel like it was a very quick thing where it was like dead baby jokes constantly I think that like everybody goes through the phase I don’t think they’ve gone
Away I just think we’re not in sixth grade anymore yes that’s probably put much better yeah before you ever know a dead baby pretty much you don’t think people were like can we just chill out with these my baby died no what was more popular dead baby jokes or dumb blonde
Jokes at one point dumb blonde I mean those will never go out of sell cuz they’re they’re not even really jokes mostly them they’re just observations yeah thank you David I mean am I wrong they’re they’re stereotypes for a reason do you think do you think blonde guys are
Dumb not talking [ __ ] about I’m not talking about even I’m talking to I’m talking like bleach blonde like if I see a girl with like bleach blonde hair you’re making a Jud judement you are too don’t say you’re not I don’t know am yeah maybe not anymore I haven’t thought
Of those jokes in years and I feel like half the girls they don’t they have fake blonde hair every every like most girls have some kind of something in their hair yeah extensions I don’t like extensions you probably don’t even notice them half time no sometime when
You notice them it’s bad I know but it’s nothing but trickery you like the brunette with the bleach blond streak I hate Xmen that that was like a thing I feel like it’s like a lot lizard when I was in college you would have like the bat like the streak blinds the streak
Meant something streak was like a tattoo for them yeah yeah I just think a dummy is a dummy is a dummy yeah all comes out lots of dumb people in the world of all shapes and sizes yeah hair colors 100% and hair you don’t think there’s a a
Dumber hair color though a dumber hair color I think there is something to Dum blond what what if we looked up IQ rate by hair color you can look it up what’s stopping us there’s Pro because this becomes a slippery slope my thesis would be okay now let’s look up IQ rate
By I’m just joking blond haired woman are the highest oh this is no no I just don’t believe this maybe you’re a blonde they also differentiate between brown hair and black hair yeah you’re born you’re were born blonde right Dave me yeah yeah you dyed it no I thought you
Had like white hair when you gr that’s what your Wikipedia article said yeah no I would say I have brown hair there’s there’s a difference between brown and black I feel like it’s like brunette like you just say brunette no black is like Asian African-American I’ve said
Before they say like a white person can’t truly have black hair you guys definely you seen the Irish the Black Irish like you have black hair no if you look in the light it’s brown your hair is black you would if you go to a professional brown you’re telling me
Dante’s got brown hair well he what else has he got in him Sicilian he’s like I don’t like total total [ __ ] Eddie Eddie and I have brown you have black yes agree a th% not brown Danny listen I I thought so too but they say you can’t
Be full if you compared mine to like an Asian person’s hair you would see mine glistens Brown in the light and theirs glistens just like white it’s like grease all right stand on the couch and get into that yeah we got to get in that angle oh there’s no white I don’t see
Any glistening Brown yeah it’s all black and it’s and it GL white exactly if I grow it definitely it starts getting move towards us I can’t see where I am really yeah that couldn’t glisten any I don’t see I don’t see a single Brown
That is as hair but my point is that I feel like you hear about blondes and brunettes like you don’t like and it’s just different shades of each he don’t for the red head other than the Reds they are their own species you got strawberry blondes you got would you
Ever grow your hair out to your shoulders and dye the B dye the tips blonde it’s funny you ask thought about that over a break did you ever have blonde hair oh yeah yeah of course Eddie Eddie went Slim Shady swear God so did I he he took the peroxide I’m not kidding
No I did I did the whole top not the sides I did that I was sitting on the front porch and my mom drove up uh or my sister drove up she’s like you I thought you were bald because it was like so they sent me back and then they made me
Get all that black brown again and then I was just the front just like the duck you looked like a [ __ ] idiot didn’t you probably Jah H 21 Jump I need a picture of this yeah I did I have dug for these pictures everywhere and I
Cannot find them I have I have mine of me and cuz like they’re like actual handheld pictures oh our our mine was the only one that I have is from like the hockey team photo and like the whole team except for like two guys it we
Tried to do that in college our coach wouldn’t let us damn yeah what a [ __ ] loser he was but I did it in like six grade and I was like fluorescent piss yellow why was that a trend I I’m blaming the I’m bringing like Lance Bass as much as much as
Anything that was your inspiration all right to be that back stre boys for sure like back stre boys and SN yeah like those bands they had yeah cuz Timberlake had it too but I feel like at our age we were like [ __ ] these guys why do all
Girls like them we’re we’re doing we’re not copying secretly we are all copying them in our head it’s not secret if you blond your hair you weren’t singing This I Promise You in the dark [ __ ] yeah I was oh I wasn’t at that age no that in
College when it came we started coming on again it’s like yeah this yeah then you get older start to respect him like justtin gieber you know he pretty good for himself that’s a good punishment what pick like an album like that and you got to sing the Whole Thing karaoke
At a bar like all the way through but like I think the bar would Revolt that’s a punishment for everybody else God you have you have to stay there like a full 24-hour Koke bar out part of the rotation every s and up again with in
Sync now we have the intro the the in Conrad we don’t have that and Sync song that was a niche one sorry go dig and find it uh um but hey we could get to Sean Maran he’s a good guy kick it okay we are now in the interview portion of
The show we are joined by W Keegan native uh NBA Allstar Shawn Mary and Sean thanks for joining us man what’s up man how y’all doing this morning good what this afternoon I’m sorry it is after 12 right yeah 1:00 afternoon I Sean I saw you at a
Cubs game probably in like 2005 and I was like I was like 15 I was like Sean you got to come to the Bulls do do you remember that I mean you ain’t the only one that said I mean but hey I love Wrigley you know
I’m a do hard Cubs fan and uh you know um a nothing like it it’s something special there yeah I remember that and that’s why I was always like oh there’s a chance there’s a chance he’s coming they never had any money yeah that it was just never lined up never lined up
Right no dude but uh so how so did you grow up on walk Kean Chicago uh for for the most part and then um I moved to Tennessee you know for high school and stuff but like I always came back and forth though cuz my uh my grandparents
Here and then uh all my family and cousins and stuff but we I just I’ve been kind of one of those guys I floated around a little bit cuz my mother was a single mother and uh we just went where family was at you know made it happen
You know yeah home enough that you live here now by choice oh it’s been it’s been there yeah yeah always I never left uh you know at times a lot of people do leave and some of them don’t come back you know come back and visit n I’m
Rooted and uh you know like I said I’m close to the studio here so so so uh you know and I’ve been there for 20 years so um it just uh I love the city man I love everything about the city and uh you know and uh man I’ve been doing stuff
Here for years I’m going to do I think I’m doing a toy drive or something tonight so yeah now I’m even more mad the Bulls didn’t bring in could have been a culture guy was there ever any chance like any any any nibble or anything like that you know
What it never it never panned out you know no it’s crazy though so this y’all love this story this is this is great this is something that a lot of people really don’t know unless you go back and dig it up so I I was in junior college
In Vincent right down the road so we was playing Kennedy King no no no we was playing Malcolm X okay was playing Malcolm X and we was coming in I think we was at the time on team uh we was ranked I want to say we was ranked top
10 in the goo you know top 10 we we always was always ranked on the team I was on but uh top 10 and in there and then um coach was like know you going J KRA Scout going to be come here and watch the game and stuff I was like okay
Okay cool so little beh he came in there he came over there and watched him play in there and and uh I mean like it it it was it was interesting because that was the first time he actually had told me one of the scouts been but they had been
Coming all year I didn’t know it and um it just it was it was just funny cuz I like it was a possibility I could have came and got dra and that was the one and done or not not one and done that was you could go straight to high school
Right from high school to yeah no that was in junior college so I that was oh that was junor College so the opportunity for me to come here initially predicated on a lot of stuff because that year I went a 99 draft elen brand y Chicago Brand number one but low
Key if I had went to a bigger a bigger school it could have been likely is that right yeah you know like most most high picks come from all the top schools teally unless recent spells you know saying you get some other guys from from mid other mid major colleges but most
Most of them coming from the Dukes the North Carolinas the Kies that’s it’s just the top three that year was Duke Maryland UCLA yeah big schools you com from big school and and with me playing UNLV was on on the west coast all the games were so night so late you didn’t
See them you know CU our ESP game for us at a 7 o’clock tip off it’s 10 o’clock on the EAS you know what I’m saying y’ ain’t watch people most people a stand up to watch no games during the week you know so how did you end up out there of
All places honestly yeah I wanted somewhere warm okay all right yeah yeah no but but but uh the assistant coach Boo and assistant coach Glenn Cen is which one of my uh good friends who was with me this past weekend celebrating with me but like he
He made it he made me feel like I was going going to another place that I can consider home okay bring coming to another family you know um they made a transition for me from from Vin sense to you very very easy pretty big change going from cornfields to Vegas how what
Was that change like though like you know what uh having all those all that action right at your fingertips you know sh it was hot yeah literally hot but yeah um it was it was it was perfect I’m going tell you why um if the the the the uh the set
That we had in Vincent with Dan Sparks shout out Jan Sparks and Vu like they actually prepared me for the next level the stuff I was doing there they I was doing when I got the you know they was doing there when I was already prepared
For I was already doing it so like I was already trying to elevate myself and I was an academic All-American you call too so it was like all kinds of stuff H yeah is it is it crazy to you now seeing how much Vegas is embraced in professional sports and whatnot man you
Know it is crazy cuz this this and you know what escalated was just gambling stuff yeah this gambling is it’s crazy now you you you got people at games they literally on their phone gambling every play every click and it’s CRA I’m like like whether it’s $2 or one of they
Gambling something to everybody trying to win yeah next time you Wrigley you can do balls and Strikes every pitch you a ball or a strike yeah wow it’s a dangerous game I don’t recommend I don’t gamble I don’t gamble Sports man but I’m sure like it was probably like worned up
And down at UNLV like hey don’t don’t be going to the sports book like don’t do everything right well so first I wasn’t legal I wasn’t old enough dude so be 21 to be gambling you know what I’m saying I I got there I was a sophomore I
Transferred as my junior junior year but I ain’t turned 21 to the end of year even though I was in there I wasn’t gambling I wasn’t gambling but I looked old enough to be 21 so it’s like they they only cing guys who don’t who don’t don’t look it you
Know if you don’t look it and you don’t carry yourself like you’re adult then they going to C you you know what I’m saying I I don’t think I I don’t remember the last time I ever seen uh in in even recently that somebody get
Carded at a table and cuz you know you got kids that look like they 14 years old 27 28 years old now yeah mhm no for sure do you still uh do you still Still Got You Got Roots and Phoenix still now or no yeah yeah I do I got some people
Out there I got some friends I got quite a group of friends out there do you snowboard out there at all that cuz you’re you saying you live here now and you’re like down the street I’m like it’s [ __ ] 10° right now ain’t no snow
Here we ain’t had snow in 3 years we we had win we had snow in three years so like last snow we had was Allstar yeah snow that was that that was a big snow yeah last big snow we had was Allstar no no no no no no during during Co so
Following year so it was cold doing Allstar and that following cuz I remember I was remodeling my house here and it was we had quite a bit but it was it was really cold then but like other than that it’s been really mild we’ve had easy winners all was so cold that
Freezing that was the polar vortex year it was it was brick it was brick outside we’re getting no free agents after that yeah for sure no but it was a it was a great Allstar though like you know uh we we held it down here though this
Is this is one of the it was one of the best ones like we they did a great job traffic traffic wasn’t too bad the part was awesome man it was it was a great time in the city where was your favorite place to play and your least favorite
Place like city-wise you know what all of them were different I don’t I don’t have a least or favorite my favorite I mean of course I played more my longer tenor in Phoenix but then you know I was in Miami for a year I was in Dallas for
Five years Cleveland for a year you know um you know I you you you they all was different phases of my career we know what the worst one was though of those what you say Cleveland why obviously we’ve all heard joke him his speech so so you know what’s you know what’s crazy
And and this is this is this is truly it’s truly messed up Cleveland actually was pretty dope yeah now now like you go it’s a little different it’s not a traditional City when it comes to like having having a tons of tons of stuff downtown what downtown was the Arenas
All the stadiums and stuff were downtown which is cool but and I moved down into a building that had just opened like literally when I moved in you could smell the paint on the wall That’s How knew so they it was a old building they
Changed it into uh it was it was a dope dope building got had a grocery store in the bottom of it and a restaurant like a full a nice restaurant in the building I have to go to comes delivered to your room so you never left I didn’t have to
Really but uh but there was a lot of hidden jewels in Cleveland you know uh restaurants and stuff that you can go to that are are are that was fanatic it was some great some great restaurants in Cleveland you look at the restaurant ratings in Cleveland I’m pretty sure
It’s pretty high some good ones yeah they got some really good restaurant but they’re all but they’re all in different little Burrows they not it wasn’t a lot of them were in downtown that you have to go to different places so but uh downtown was was cool it it I mean game
Nights is thriving downtown it’s bus as H downtown weekends and then the flats you know what I’m saying they redone them had new stuff down there so listen it’s what you make of it you know what I’m saying like if you want to if you I
Can say the same thing about Utah at one point but Utah actually they got they got this new area that I saw last year for the first time me going back uh it’s shopping it’s restaurants nightlife everything right there by right by the stadium it’s awesome yeah and going back
To your draft class too low key really good draft class a ton of like 10e bets lowy was really good really good do you ever how much did you give uh Terry [ __ ] that he went to pick after you no it’s uh it’s funny it’s my guy
Man and uh you know uh he’s coaching he’s coaching for uh Utah now oh know that yeah so like a lot of the guys I play with on coaching staffs and or coaching and administration but like no man um our class was awesome dude seriously come on now look at yeah Elton
Brand Steve Francis Baron Davis Lamar odm Bender had a had a moment I feel like with the Pacers he was all right he got hurt then and like Rip Hamilton Andre Miller Shawn Mary and Jason Terry that’s a hell of a top 10 yeah TR langon
Yeah W Zak Alex vdovic then uh Cory M was it Cory McGary after that MTI went 13 is another Chicago guy right cmax that’s my guy yeah uh how close are you with Lamar Odum we really we actually really cool man you know uh we got a
Chance to so this is this is this is a good story too A lot of people don’t know this so prior to Lamar transferring to Rhode Island he was at UNLV yes the hell he was yes that’s why I asked just think if we would played together at
UNLV oh my God rev R are back oh well so so something happened and uh yeah he had to leave and go transfer to Island I don’t know what happened but I asked that cuz my college baseball coach I don’t know how or he also was a broadcaster for the Mid-American
Conference he would do their [ __ ] uh their basketball during the winter and he told me the story of Lamar Odum and why he went uh or no he went to Rhode Island afterwards but he said that they recruited him I don’t know all the details and he went to his hotel room
And had a pair of Jordans or whatever with just mountains of casino chips in them and do it yeah that and then he went to UNLV and then transferred out to Rhode Island or whatever it was but that was the story heard you know what same class and everything I you know what’s
Funny me going to school there I really don’t know exactly I’ve heard three different stories and that’s the first one I heard about some sneakers it I forget stories that you heard you know what I think that’s for him to tell you know cuz you know I yeah I
Don’t want to speculate if I heard the same story consistently I’m sorry consistently why I even repeat it so like it’s like okay really I’m like that don’t that’s not in line with anything other okay so that’s one that why I never heard that one so so like poor I
Remember is uh casino chips like you know gambling chips and and shoes in a hotel it was like very but it was like they were bribing them obviously to go there I don’t I’m not trying to throw anybody under the bus but yeah but you
Kind of they were okay so if they were so if that’s the case they were so let’s let’s put two and two together if they if that’s the case they were well well [ __ ] why you a stay no I know yeah I know I me you can
Do that pretty much legally now so the way it is yeah w wow West yeah you uh honestly cuz obviously the Bulls were so bad for us growing up like since after Jordan left it was just the dark years you played for two of like the most fun
Teams like do people bring that up a lot obviously seconds or less Steve Nash and then obviously the title winning Mavericks yeah I mean uh people bring up a lot of stuff you know I think you know at the end of the day you know what good about these platforms now you can
Actually hear from us you can hear our version they came so back in back during my era they was uh they can bit take bits and pieces of of interviews and and use it how they want to use it now everything is being recorded right so
Now you get to hear the contents of in the context of what a player is actually saying in his mindset when he comes to that and what he thought about that so versus them creating their own narratives yeah so but the teams itself I mean listen they was both unique and
Dynamic and stuff and I I think you know um yeah I I I said this the other day when I did a press conference in Phoenix during my uh I mean I definitely fell short I wish I did bring a championship to Phoenix you know um that’s what
That’s one thing I I uh I craved and I wanted you know it’s forun I did wi it in Dallas you know which is awesome as well you know two I mean listen Cuban and um Durk and J kid and uh it was Cuban it was Cuban Cuban Dirk J kid and
Uh jet yeah they literally called me and told me use missing piece we need win the championship and uh come make this happen and uh they did we made it happen really like how is Cuban during like recruiting calls like that is he kind of running the show and the other guys are
There or who’s doing who’s doing the talking on that call no but I prior to me going to Vegas I mean Dallas I’m sorry um we had a relationship already though cuz him and my agent Dan Dan and uh yeah cubin and Dan was really good friends my agent you know saying who
Passed away rest in peace Dan John and um they had great relationship and I always used to run into Cuban everywhere but we used to I run to everywhere like I was coming to Dallas I see him spots here and there and we used to chop it up
And and he’s always been that that guy man you know he’s one of those guys just uh you know it’s a fan first owner second okay you know what I’m saying I need more of them in sports so yeah yeah I think uh you know Matt Matt Matt is is
Similar to it now too you know what I’m saying and uh he kind of more behind the uh but still he’s he’s he’s definitely a fan of the game itself you know and uh he’s very adamant about that were you stunned that he sold um no no he’s still in he’s
Still but it was still like I it’s done me like there’s a shark tank news back to back too so I was like w Cubans really changing things up I mean I mean it probably stung more because nobody know he was doing it yeah and that’s that’s the reason why it CAU everybody
So everybody specul he was in the process of looking for suitors everybody would probably been like okay so so what’s the reason he just want to get out of you want to change something or whatever but listen at the end of the day you got to look at it from this it
Is a business and like you know he bought the team I think was value at 300 or $400 million [ __ ] you know it’s 3.5 million now I mean billion I’m sorry get my get my up but I mean like certain things do cap out you
Know what I’m saying so I’m on the open side now and uh you know of course you Partners here you know what I’m saying with the breakers and I had a Breakers swear hoodie I was going to wear earlier but like just a just a but uh the
Breakers the club noxa and uh the DC pickle ball team so like you know people think you when you become an owner on the owner side one of the things people want understand about being the owner of any kind of sport you’re not in it to to
Get a residual check every quarter no you in it Cas yeah you you in it for the ride and if the ride pants out at the end you you capitalize at the end yeah you know what I’m saying that’s true now some guys can’t can’t can’t go along for
That whole ride because you know you still got to anyy up when it’s time to up when you need help when teams or when when something ain’t going right or you trying to grow the team in different ways you got to any up but like it’s
Levels to this game you know and uh I like the little level I’m at it’s cool it’s cool it’s fun it’s engaging and uh I feel more part of a team you know what I’m saying versus trying to be be of a NBA team where where listen I put in5 or
$10 million and then like your money ain’t nothing yeah what is11 million to a three billion three three or four billion do team it’s 12 Change yeah level you don’t want to play some games some levels you can’t be at but unless you get good friends that take
Care of you you you can dible and Dabble with but certain levels you just I just I just like yeah no I’m cool hey let’s take a break here from talking to Shawn Mary and let’s talk about Chevy Drive chicago.com uh Chicago land your local Chevy dealers want you to know that the
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Back to those that Suns team because that they had that 2006 where you had that battle with uh Kobe’s Lakers went seven you had like the fight with Raja Bell what was it like competing against Kobe in that series and was there ever a moment where you guys cuz you were down
3-1 and he came back do you ever feel like hey like we got this guy or we got this team so so lowkey I I really felt we could have could have won a championship that year see so so I think the first I say I say this the first
Year we went small ball and that year was a year I felt like we should have won a championship those injuries right there the injury to uh who got hurt oh Kurt Thomas was hurt that year Kurt Thomas got hurt in 06 that that year because he uh remember he had kind of
Felt rotation and uh we went to Tim Thomas uh a big big he had Tim Tim Thomas had a big role but he have even bigger role CA CZ Kurt was out but we wasn’t uh me and D Tony was just talking about this I was like damn you know what
I’m saying you can replay back some of the situations though look look who was hurt then uh then Roger di get hurt he got hurt he pulled his Cal in in a uh was it last game or first game of the western confence final Western yeah yeah
Yeah so no it was he he was choking Kobe he was he was in that Series so so so so like then so we if we are 100% healthy against Dallas I think we beat him that year and then that’s the year we beat
Chaq and them uh D way I think we played Miami twice that year we beat them 30 points every time we played them so if we got to the finals and we had to play Miami I think we would beat them that year yeah was just aough yeah we had
Some injuries we had injuries tough injuries and then you know um yeah it was we had two guys that that was heavily rotation kind of go down was um hobbled you know what I’m saying so and then I was I ain’t going to lie to you I
Was gassed after those two series after going to the Lakers 7 the Clippers 7 like I was and then we finished cuz I end up going to see Dallas and Miami Heat playing the finals I was gassed though like after we playing we went
Dallas to 6 they beat us 42 mhm I was gassed I was the tiredest I ever been in my career because I had to I was going from guarding Sam Cassel to Chris Cayman to uh to elen BR and then I was guarding Kobe Lamar uh Ron and who whoever else
All everybody on an was just like dude then I had to go to the Garden Dirk did you did you take pride in that they’re like yeah throw me on Sam Cel or throw me on the seven-footer Chris Cayman I got ball so so so I mean I love it man
You know why cuz it it rails me up but also though like they got to guard me on the end too though so if you go look at the numbers what was the numbers in them series what I was the average in them series uh 28 30 points a game in them
Series so like you know um it was it was it was it was a great time what what was the kind of consensus amongst players I I the super team started with like um with the Celtics right beforehand but it wasn’t like as flamboyant as when LeBron
And Wade and with the heat what were you guys like man [ __ ] these guys like let’s like as the rest of the 29 30 whatever teams in the league were they just like let’s get these guys out of here so you know what man when you when you only
Only reason it became a spectacle is because it the way it was blown up right the way the way the way it transpired if it didn’t TR they had all just went there with no no oh championships it been it would been nothing yeah yeah yeah but when you
Escalate things you put you put that red that red dot on your back you know what I’m saying you just everybody R it you know listen at the end of the day the media andbody create favorites every year every season every season because that I look at it like
This every year train Camp starts for everybody at the same time everybody got the same record so everybody I mean of course there’s teams that start training camp knowing that they probably ain’t going to do anything this year maybe possibly but you never know you never
Know yeah cuz a lot lot of situation is the these teams now are one injury away from not doing anything so so so but even with that being said though like the the the the the P the the playing level now playing field now is pretty
Much equal a lot a lot of teams now a lot of teams are just one maybe a half a player or a player away from actually going to compete for a championship now that’s how close that’s how close these teams are right now and I don’t think
Everybody really take the time to digest it it’s just everybody will create narratives but you can go put you can put a team out there and then and say we picking this team ain’t no guarantee they going to win they still got to go
Out and do it and listen if one of their main guys go down guess what it’s over yeah now they don’t have that same same opportunity and um and it’s crazy how uh some of these things work but you only going to go as far as your bench take
You so so the supporting cats plays a huge part in in in anybody winning the championship especially in basketball yeah which I think is the hardest Championship to win it is it’s very hard it feels like you need to get one of like the like the a Hall of Famer like
You have to like get at least probably two Hall of Famers to have a real chance really it feels like that and this super team like Jordan and pit you know like all those teams that win may be the exception of you guys well they Dirk I
Mean our championship team was Dirk me Jason Jake kid CH yeah they were that’s definitely Hall of Famers yeah uh but but but everybody was saying we was too old oh we couldn’t do this and we couldn’t do that last time I checked we whooped everybody ass did yeah but was it like
You guys did have an America’s team feel cuz everybody I love Dallas I everybody was r i mean actually no so like every series we just pick the lose you know that yeah we was favorite in any series we was not favorite in any series but
Last time I checked uh uh we we knew we had the one of the best teams in the league by far that year we finished we finished top five four in Western Conference I mean which was I mean which is we had one of the deepest teams
In the league by far and we had we had something that I I feel like a lot of teams didn’t have and we believed in each other and we knew we was capable of doing it this is this is how these narratives jump but like when you
Believe something in your in your team and yourselves and you go out here and you pursue this goal and you actually go out here and you show the world this this how much confidence is Jason Terry got tattooed with a trophy on his arm before the season started I love that no
No no like y so so if that don’t tell you in mind like what the hell y’all thinking about what the hell yall talking about like put some put some respect on this game and and and the collaborate players that that team that we had you know Dirk let us man but we
All follow suit and we all play Big Parts in their Championship whether you play whether you play uh two minutes or no minutes at all they defin everybody helped on that team to contribute to winning that championship and that’s that’s what makes it even more special and when people talk about somebody
Didn’t do this or somebody this oh they they they played they had bad no [ __ ] we stopped them yeah excuse my friends but we stopped him yeah we stopped him no why is it why can’t be they they made they made him we took him out everything they want to do verus
Somebody saying he had a bad game no no hey they stopped us they was a better team what about the Dirk the Dirk sick game was that oh I mean listen I don’t care about that stuff man no there wasn’t like a hey they’re like they’re
Clowning on our guy like we yeah no no man listen we got to go out there and play you can’t you can’t let stuff like that you know escalate in PB cuz of course the media asks about oh you see them like like care about that know de D
LeBron my guys and all that stuff but that was hey you you got to do whatever you need to to feel yourself to try to get to get to get a edge or whatever you got to do whatever you got to do if you think that’s going to help not throw us
Off our block it it wasn’t look at the series go look at the runs we did we be we swept the Lakers Portland was very a very deep team people that that was probably the most deepest one of the second second second or third deepest team in the postseason that year who was
On that team go look at the roster okay I ain’t going 2011 look at the roster the roster did you was what was Dirk like as a leader like you always hear these stories about like MJ’s trash Kobe bird all these guys and then like Dirk just
Felt like I’m just going to shoot fadeaways in your eyeball all day long so Dirk you let people know talk about things though one thing we had a lot of guys that held each other cannibal we had a lot of veterans on the team you know starting with from our point guard
All the way down and everybody knew what their responsibilities were it’s not like you had to go in there and ask somebody do this or do that and know we knew where our jobs were and it just it was just just s simple you know what I’m
Saying yeah and then our coacher staff was amazing though they the way they the way they the game plans and the schemes that we had dude I’m telling you like like man dude like we we was locked in yeah yeah this is a good team I got to
Play Marcus Aldridge probably at the peak of his powers Wesley Matthews a good player Brandon Roy Brandon Roy although he did he play it with Brandon Roy he played but he was still kind of injured a little bit but he still but he had he had he had two games where like
He gave them some energy but like yeah we was able to go close they was tough and my guy Andre Miller I love that’s my boy that’s my boy yeah yeah you’re right well oh listen these I’m telling you when you when you want to really if you really
Want to dissect it dissect it with no agendas or no no other stuff don’t don’t don’t pick favors look at go look at the roster look well look at our roster too though yeah look at look at our roster you guys were loaded too was there a guy
That you got to play against we’re like I can’t wait to play against this guy I can’t wait to guard this guy like you just like one way or another like a personal rivalry a guy that you push yourself like you know what man earlier not later I didn’t need it
You know what I’m saying my my my my motivation and my my competitive nature is going to withstand any of that stuff but you know of course you know certain guys that was probably picked or or want supposed to be compared to you tomorrow all want to today mouth out
But but I didn’t go out there initially trying to to do that though I just went there naturally I did things naturally now they a lot of times you ain’t they have to they have to poke the bear cuz the PO the bear was already woke okay
You know what I’m saying so like it’s it’s like uh they know why when I I stepped on the floor it’s funny because uh other boys like yeah they used to I used I was the Deion Sanders out there on basketball they didn’t throw that ball they come nowhere near me if you
Wasn’t the main guy it didn’t never came to me it never came to my side cuz I was stealing it or getting the reflection or something or blocking it was never coming to me man this team was special man do throw Brian Cardinal in there for a couple
Minutes yeah walk in floor the custodian BC JJ like so so BC I got all other guys got we was at all of us came back together for Dirk’s uh enshrinement okay so we was all there we was tripping but like yo I you know some of the best
Interviews and things you you reminisce you talk about you get to kind of reminisce on the things that you did how you did it and the way you did it you know I’m telling you it’s definitely something to uh to go back and just look at and reference I’m telling you go look
At the games just look at the games you can you can go look at every game every series like damn you know what maybe I need to revamp what I said and what I thought you know what I’m saying okay like these boys actually did it’s no
Different than I would I’m not going to compare but like we everybody wrote off uh everybody didn’t didn’t nobody pick Denver to win championship last year when playoff started did they nobody everybody was talking about all these other teams Boston um Milwaukee uh all them they barely got
Out of the first round or did they make out the first round you know Boston didn’t they got they lost in the first round last year right no they lost in the second second round it second uh but uh no no what what I was saying is
Though you realize that I told I was like you go back and look at the run though that the uh different nuggets were and I’m optimistic too cuz I it’s easy to to soak in the narrative created that everybody saying cuz everybody keep throwing in saying it yeah I literally
Went back and looked at their run this is how crazy and dynamic this is and I’m I’m going give Joker’s flowers and and Murray they all you know Gordon all of them kcp all those guys they stayed healthy all year last year MH they got to the postseason and
The way they play there’s there there is only a hand not less than a handful of teams that facilitate the and move the ball the way they do mhm the golden states the Sacramento them and maybe that be about it yeah everybody else does more of the one guy
ISO and and the pick and roll and then they they just pick you apart like that they move they move so well without the ball and the way they move the ball that that it’s hard for a lot of teams to adjust to because that’s why they always
Give themselves a chance to come back and win because they sharing the ball and they moving they got you scrambling around now with that being said uh their defense in half court was unbelievable to have no shot blocking yeah to play defense the way they did Joker ain’t blocking no shots yeah
Gordon was huge Aaron Gordon was huge yeah yeah they could no they have no and no team have any match up match up for him yeah I mean no he was the he was a lone wolf by himself affle power forward catching lobs you can’t you couldn’t name another
Power Ford in the Western Conference that was catching lobs and running floor the way he did and guard one through four mhm no nobody else well you seem like you still F you still follow the a lot so yeah I do I do I mean yeah I love
This game man you know it’s some talented players I love watching some of these guys is do some stuff that’s very uh you gota you go to be in all of like LCA I mean Yannis the things that they’re able to do I mean LeBron is doing something unheard of at his age
Right but uh but I see how he’s doing it though that’s how he’s so smart about what he’s doing man he’s just lot lot of stuff he doing just beating everybody on the floor yeah yeah like why why work hard when you don’t have to you know
What I’m saying why why why bang and and Bru and do all this extra cutting back door when you can just beat everybody on the floor for a dunk or a layup yeah easy pocket yeah and we we could end on this then how if you if you switch to a
Front office role here how would you fix the team at the United time oh I so I’m not you can make it a 45 minute answer if you want yeah no you know I can’t I’m I’m not uh I’m a bulls fan but I’m not into I can’t I can’t
Dissect the team like that right now you know what I’m saying I I don’t it’s only a few teams I actually know from top to bottom that’s not one of them you know say I’m a bulls fan by nature and by habit and by calls but by C package I
Mean uh but no I mean listen man you know H they have a talented team over there I I I think they just like a lot of other teams in the league right now that they know they missing you know what the Bulls are missing honestly
Y’all want to see him someone fix a team honestly they missing Lonzo ball yeah they same since he went just simple you know why because he’s a he’s a leader on the floor he plays both ends of the floor he shot he shoot he was shooting
40% from the three-point line but he’s a facilitator fun to watch he he knows he he he made the game so easy for for Zack and D Rose and and everybody on the team everybody flourished cuz everybody KN he made sure everybody ate they don’t have
A traditional guard and a point guard a lot of teams don’t a lot of teams missing them like the thing is about the league right now and it’s so we got so many one-on-one talented skies in the league right now but that takes so much
Out of a guys to go out there and try to go ISO and and and get a bucket every time down the floor it’s very hard it’s very hard to do now there guys that do it now you know what I’m saying but if you had a guy that can facilitate and
Get you the ball in easier spots and make the game for you I’m not saying um it’s guys out here that can probably do it but I’m not saying everybody need a star point guard no but 15 20 minutes a night a guy can facilitate and get all
Your guys in their spots when they need to get make sure your big is getting rewarded when he needed to and make sure guys are not getting left out it’s all about balance the floor man and and that’s what you can do but when you got
It it’s harder to create Make a Score become a facilitator yeah like it’s really hard if you been scoring all his career I’m not saying he can’t do it that’s not the point the point is it’s not natural because he’s he’s a Score first pass second mentality you know
Versus having a pass first scoring mentality totally different or pass pass score so like I play with guys like that that they they about passing passing then score versus score score then pass score score score or somebody that don’t do that yeah most most of the guards in League
Now yeah a big majority of them are scores you know I mean luk could do it all you know saying like you know what I’m saying but like yeah he’s a walking triple double you know what I’m saying but D book is transitioning to to uh point a little bit somewhat more you
Know I’m saying but they both him and KD and when when Bill is healthy I guess they all can handle the ball which is true but a lot of teams though you know um don’t have traditional point guards anymore look what lamelo look what lamelo doing over in Charlotte though
Like they may not be winning the way they people think they but they they do give himself a chance and he scores but he also facilitates and when he facilitate the way he facilitates the times it it it rides the bar if he hitting his shot outside that’s when
They more they really dangerous yeah he’s fun to watch he’s really fun to watch um but all right then thanks for your time man we really appreciate you jumping on anything you want to get out there before you wrap up oh yeah you know I want y’all to pay attention right
Now uh the retired player association is doing a Showcase in Cleveland December 30th man in uh Ohio uh what Schools Ohio State West Virginia yes it is Ohio State West Virginia I was trying to I’m here for you appreciate that so facilitator right there yeah yeah listen we are we when we
Doing some things know we just had a game uh recently here in Vegas went well and uh you know this is our uh this is going to be our fourth I think Fifth Fifth fifth or sixth showcase I think right yeah somewhere around there and uh we’re we’re we’re in the college space
Now a little bit you know we doing some something special and uh you know another thing though you know being on entire Players Association know uh I’m going to shout out to all the the um the oldheads man the guys who paid away from myself and the guys who’s playing right
Now uh thank you really do thank you you know I think y’all don’t get y’all flowers enough and uh I’m definitely going to make sure I keep doing that awesome man we appreciate it thanks Sean problem all right so that was Shawn Maran thank you to Sean for uh coming in
That was fun I wish we could have had it on on uh camera but Sean and I had after we recorded about a 10-minute conversation about hiccups after after we got done recording how you how did you resolve that issue he asked me when I stopped
Growing and I I said I don’t know around seventh grade or so and he’s like man I shot up like three four inches in junior college he’s like when’s the last time you’ve had hiccups I’m like honestly I [ __ ] face like a week ago and I got him
And he’s like well what about like normally I’m like couldn’t tell he’s like last time you had hiccups was the last time that you stopped growing stop is that a fact he says that hiccups are directly tied to your you growing and like if you get
Them from eating too much or too fast or something that’s different than just getting them randomly but you won’t get them that’s what Shawn Maring told me I didn’t verify it but I believe him because with all due respect to sha mar mar Maran Maran I going to say maramman
Uh what what do it say Lance generally hiccups tend to be a sign of healthy growth and development however frequent hiccups may also result from G you ever get the [ __ ] is gir it’s like you’re uh like you get like the the runup of the food like when you’re sleeping that’s
What I know it as it’s like uh heart refle yeah acid reflex yeah damn I think he might be on something I I guess now I think about it like every time I’ve gotten hiccups cuz I was like shoving my face with something so I can’t remember
Last time I just normally got hiccups apologies this Mara maybe there was something to that that should be like a a well-known Uber fact or something sure put that on a quote card it should we could put that on a quote card for this episode thank you Dave Dave can be
Caused by stretching the frenetic nerve frenetic FR fic pretty crazy yeah Dave talk more about the solo stuff you just bought oh so couple all right I I I don’t I was off camera telling you about it Ed um no last epode I well I was
Talking to Ed off camera about it as well but uh he’s like do you really get one I’m like yeah I picked it up so we all saw the viral marketing campaign where Snoop Dog tweet tweeted Instagram social media about how he’s no longer he’s done with smoke everybody you know
Knows that Snoop Dog loves his marijuana he wasn’t talking about marijuana he’s talking about smoke as in smoking food and he went to solo stove so I I got a solo stove it’s on my on my back patio right now zero smoke it pisses off the neighbors none I live in an apartment
Complex in downtown Chicago so there’s neighbors that you got to take into account with that kind of stuff you can do anything you want with this it’s nice little [ __ ] uh fall winter time it warms you up on the on the patio for me you can cook over it roast marshmallows
Chestnuts whatever you want anything theay season it’s great and I said this I’m telling everybody get it for your dad I got it for myself I wish I would have got it for my dad for Christmas it’s not too late you can regift it it’s
Already on my deck and I like it too much so I got to probably going the money and get him another one Ed should I run or walk to get myself you should run okay and you should also get in on the Snoop stove a limited edition Bond
Fire pit designed by Snoop himself each custom fire pit comes with a going smokeless bucket hat and a limited runup stickers run don’t walk like Danny said to solostove.com to pick up the limited edition pit and join Snoop and going smokeless for good um okay so here I
Like this by by our our sheet guy sheet Guy Brian Knights Brian Knights let’s talk percentages this what he says with the loss to the Browns on Sunday the Bears playoff chances are now at 3% higher than I would have thought I I thought they were eliminated
Win probability and the worst loss of the Season uh this was also crazy did you see this nope uh I I forgot the guy who tweeted this too uh they had a 98.1% versus the Broncos 98.2 versus the Lions and a 91.3 versus the Browns the chance
To lose all three of those is up 0.003% this team man that’s crazy that’s insane imagine that’s your coaching staff that’s what I said whereas like margins I was like this the coaching staff has cost the they cost the team they cost the players games what do they
Say Dave it’s game players also cost the coaching staff games I think it’s been a little bit more lopsided this year if Justin Fields doesn’t decide to tuck and run and hits DJ Moore wide open he has a fourth down touchdown I mean you can argue this and that a million different
Ways you win you win and lose on the margins good teams win those games bad teams lose those gam how about this we talked about the uh the Zone blits with Justin Jones dropping back on Third and 15 where they went through the huge play
End of the game I mean it like I when I read this quote I read it in like miny’s voice where he’s like ah I got to make a better call yeah that was every I got to make a better call than that a point3 per to lose all those games we might
Have a better chance of a meteor hitting this room honestly 003 that’s pretty wild that’d be a hell of a way to go just watch don’t look up last night oh it’s not bad it’s pretty good yeah it was pretty good uh imagine if you’re on the opposite money line on
All those games you’d just be clean I probably was I like honestly I end up bet every Sunday morning rolls around I usually bet the Bears no but I’m saying the opposite one oh you want it no like when the Lions the Browns and the you could have parlayed
Those but still it be huge I bet you it’s like plus 800 sometimes yeah Broncos not maybe not that high but they definitely get high were they up on the Broncos 283 right or 287 one of the two so read the next line since 2015 teams
Of three plus sacks three plus ints and a pick six were 40 and0 prior God damn prior to Sunday say it’s 20 they’re like this whole year has been about them being the Guinness Book of World Records yeah so like maybe we’re just a team of bad luck
Maybe we’re good and we don’t change this is luck maybe Flo is the guy maybe he just needs to contact lenses and people will like him more cuz he’s this a transition to an adre for like L craters yeah um no just kidding the Bears are R pleasy Believe It or Not
Status it’s I mean are you are you uh none of this surprises me at all even when I hear it’s like the first team in 40 [ __ ] years or whatever does any of this surprise you no and and there’s three games left correct there’s three games left correct
And they will do something again where after week 17 or 18 were like laughing about another stat that they did that’s just how the Bears do things yeah no you’re right the only the only way for them to [ __ ] up now is by winning which they’ll probably do they’ll probably win
Out now I’m interested Dave’s evolution of how this is going to work out too because it feels like a little people are like what Dave like people are mad at you for holding your take about Fields right am I yeah oh it’s either love or hate
There’s not much in between at all there if any Fields is so polarized the most in I think infinitely more than Tris I think so too infinitely more than trabis more than any any athlete probably of my lifetime in this city I I go back and forth myself like every day like still
Every day sometimes like ah well maybe it is more csy and maybe it can be like the 10th or 12th best guy in the league like I do that little wrestling match in my brain basically every time I see a tweet about him yeah cuz then you have guys like
Chase Daniel who put out those videos and he’s like well fields did everything he possibly [ __ ] could in this game against the Browns yeah but he also said he’s taking kale Williams yeah but that was a while that was before that was before he had kind
Of come back from injury and had had some good performances Chase Daniel said that about the Browns game yeah that’s Chase Daniel’s wrong I don’t care how long he was a backup in the NFL cuz that’s just you know more than Chase Daniel I don’t know more than Chase
Daniel I know that that is a absolutely incorrect take say it one more time if I’ll P I’ll pull up pull up the quote cuz if he said like I’ll take him literally and I’ll take him like he was embellishing for the sake of clicks not clicks but just like you know proving
His point but I went and watched every single s just Fields gave it all was the quote and he like kind of went through he never doesn’t give it all I don’t think but I think like he I watched some of it and he was basically like in in
Fields Corner like I watched every single snap of his for a Blog I wrote yesterday and everyone’s like well you’re not talking about the tonion drop or the and you’re probably counting Mooney I’m like I’ll go through every single snap and go through every pass
Attempt that he made and tell you why I think he sucks one through [ __ ] 40 whatever it was and there were mul of that I could see on video there was there was one where um he took a really bad sack at like Midfield right before the the end
Of the first half and there was KT was going on on a streak um he had all day to throw and then no uh Johnson was the outlet if the line and he’s looking right at Johnson Johnson’s wide open it would have been a minimal gain maybe a
Yard or two if that instead of a 10 yard loss the linebacker crashes on Johnson you hit KT on the seam and it’s probably a touchdown if he runs with KT you hit Johnson on the checkdown you don’t take the sack he’s literally looking directly
At Johnson and Ops for the sack so that is like whatever he said some issues is incorrect ISS is incorrect you should watch the video I’ll watch the video but like if he said he did everything right like that’s just false he didn’t do everything right he was 19 of 40
Whatever I think and and I do think like he he made the point that he was pressured on 44% of dropbacks did you guys see that other video where they had uh a lot of those sacks though he was holding the ball forever I I’m I don’t
Sure but did did you guys see that it was someone did like a a super cut of it was like a minute 30 video of every time miles Garrett was held but they didn’t call it cuz the Bears had no holding calls Braxton Jones [ __ ] assaulted
This guy all day like all day long and if it like when you watch it it reminds you of like Shaq back in the day where Shaq couldn’t get foul calls because he was like so huge and he would just bully guy he get absolutely hammered on every
Play that’s what it looked like he was getting tackled he was getting t off the edge and they never called it and he still got home like many times like he’s he miles Garrett’s a [ __ ] freak yeah he’s one of the best to do it yeah one
Of the best to do it for sure um where are we at now like rolling into this last three games what do you mean like like who they got left they got Arizona Atlanta and Green Bay Green Bay they’re going to beat Arizona I don’t care if he lights
It up for 404 Tes out they might not they might not though be lose out they could win out like it’s not a like I could see anything happen yeah I would be surprised either way to be honest if they did two and one’s probably what they’ll
Do I think they’ll probably do two in one Atlanta and Arizona yeah because I don’t think they’re winning at they’re not winning at Green Bay actually they could though they’ll lose the first two games and they’ll go winning Green Bay just because why the [ __ ] not and it’ll
Like obviously I I’ll never ever no I don’t care if it’s the first pick I can’t root for Green Bay against the Bears never will be able to I can’t like if it was Atlanta be like yeah [ __ ] lose game while the game’s going on sure you’re rooting for the
Bears I and I can’t like turn that see I can turn off I can root for the IND I’m like good they lost same yeah like I root for it the whole way but then at the end it’s like sometimes you’re like all right like let the bottom fall they
Wanted Mooney to catch that ball sure but we so it hopess we hopess it’s not it’s not apples apples I guess yeah like I like I said I’m begrudge people for thinking either way that for the rest of this year but a lot of people do at this
Point with 3% like it’s just beneficial especially Washington plays the Jets this week Washington could probably win that game and he could get that fourth one and four like yeah it’s crazy not often how ever when’s the when’s the last time the Bears beat the Packers
Mitch yeah it probably 28 2018 the last game of the year to clinch of division yeah before the Nickelodeon yep no no before the double doing no you’re right I don’t think it was the it might not have been the last game the year but
It was like the second the year it was late and they [ __ ] him up there’s some kid who there’s some kid who ever since that has yeah and they did pick Rogers I remember that Eddie Jackson has not been the same since that pick since that pick
Yep that yeah what you going to say Danny there’s been uh some kid who DMS the red line radio now midow count after every single time the Bears beat the Packers just with the scorecard from the Packers account so not looking forward to that that’s that that one reason this
Kid looks like he’s like 19 and just sends it every single time so that’s that’s the sole reason why I’d want the Bears stop harassing Danny yeah [ __ ] them I don’t know we’ll see what happens Christmas Eve yeah Arizona Cardinals the fifth worst team versus the third worst
Team now I got a question for you because is there is there any way for uh everl to keep his job at this point I mean last week hurts for sure for you you’re in charge not like do you think the mkis will Jeep out they don’t want
To pay like Eddie Eddie’s in charge no because it’s it’s it’s we we need an offensive guy to come in here to to to figure it out I’m sorry like I I like that the defense is making strides and a defensive City but like I don’t
Know you just kind of need you need that you need that offensive Guru to kind of make the next I I want like I want like a real Alpha kind of guy like a guy who steps up steps up to face the media like you want har I want my
Shawn McVey I want my Kyle Shanahan I Want My MTV you know like I want that’s what I want you want your MTV yeah a problematic song I know it is but it’s a great song it is a great song so I like the editor version I met him at the
Lantern really mhm child the Dire Straits um I I’m joking I just made that up I don’t know why I did that he’s never been in nville in his life that was funny um but yeah that’s who I want I want my MC I want my Mike
McDaniel we need that so you want just botch these next three games I do feel like Mike McDaniel in Chicago like him personally it would be a disaster like I there’s just certain guys you look at him it’s like he wouldn’t work I mean Marts Marts is like going back I mean oh
Look we got Mike Marts greatest show on Turf Marshall faul he was that higher was over cuz he had failed he he failed pretty hard with St Louis you know that’s right like he they made him the head coach and the the wheels really fell off that’s right that’s right that’s
Right they they they went to the Super Bowl that was they lost the Tom Brady and they were never the same no I’ve seen it I’ve seen enough yeah I I I like it’s just too little too late yeah you know what about with Fields can I tell you something I I put
Out a poll the other day where it was like fields is Fields isn’t I don’t know I don’t care I’m I I’m I’m tired of arguing and talking about Justin Fields like it someone else figure it out like I can’t I can’t I can’t decide I do not
Envy the guy who has to make that decision yeah it’s a yeah I I think it’s a I don’t think it’s as easy as youly easy decision I think that’s crazy I don’t begrudge you for being out and not being a Fields guy but the thing it’s
That easy is considering the capital and considering the prospects considering the coaching there’s a lot of is there any package of picks where you would be like yeah I mean the three first for for cayb Williams or Drake May or whoever I’m still like I’m using those picks like
Justin Fields is like he’s a placeholder like I’m using those pick as a package for the next guy maybe I don’t like I I I watch him week after week I I know gsy sucks I know erlu sucks I know the Bears suck Justin Fields also sucks just
Because one sucks doesn’t mean the other can’t suck as well they’re all pile of suck together I agree and people are like no he sucks because of getsy I’m like gy is a part of the reason of the suck for sure but that doesn’t mean like
I don’t I get I here’s the other piece I come back to has he ever one time just completely [ __ ] lit it up through the air no ever no ever Mitch did a handful of times he did he did he L up once this year he had three something against who
Was it against Washington but that but that was like a DJ Mo yards after catch game yeah that weapon for a reason brother yeah no for sure but I I do like I also go back to this thing where I fundamentally reject the idea that a 24
Year-old can’t get any better at the thing that he’s doing in that moment he’s washed at 24 or he’s the best he’ll ever be at 24 like he can be better like he’s not done his brain’s not even fully developed exactly so I do feel like you could he could get better
Next year with the better Coach I think that that is I think that that’s possible I I you say it’s not I don’t see him ever being a quarterback that leads you to anything of remote substance did you see that graphic um that compared Justin Field’s second 17 starts
To Josh Allen second 17 starts nope nope Fields is slightly better in every major category I don’t care how about this Dave were you a guy who said Josh Allen sucked no I I didn’t he had a rough start I didn’t love him but like
And then he became like an MVP guy that third 17 you think that Justin field is going to make that jump no I don’t think he’s going to make that jump I think he can make a jump like once again I go back to what the conversations everybody was having a
Year ago it’s like well what if we get him a number one what if they improve they did those things they did those things and he has got moderately better through the air this year he’s not throwing the bad picks as often as he was but that’s not a quarterback I see
Wi anything of substance with and if you’re not a quarterback could hang around in the league then or no yeah lots you think John Harbaugh would do a lot better with him or no probably I think he would probably I looked up who their quarterback’s coach was I’m like
Why don’t we just hire their quarterback’s coach to be the offensive coordinator it’s T Martin not great yeah not yeah I there’s a lot of bad quarterback play in the NFL this year yeah a lot of backups so you’re the back well that’s like you know Cam
Newton I think he might have said it on PMT or one of while he was here being like Brock pie and Dak Prescott call them like game managers instead of impact players and it’s like I I think there’s truth to what he’s saying with that but those guys are like
Phenomenal game managers yeah can you know like that would be great to have like I bet you like prior to this year you would never be like dak’s one of the top guys right you personally White Sucks Dave I would I would have said like oh that yeah8 to 12 range yeah
Depending on the year and all that kind of like but now I’ve always liked Dak though like he’s a he’s a good quarterback he’s yeah but he’s never been be a lot more frustrated with him if you watched him on a weekly basis probably yeah probably yeah yeah but
Like now he’s like in legit MVP discussion the Cowboys are a Super Bowl Contender like that’s what I mean like it’s he wasn’t that four years ago I just like when Justin Fields like okay here I’ll put it I I’ll I’ll I’ll package it like this Justin fields we
Watch him every week and we recognize those warts even though we’re not some football Savant that are you know paid to break down like mechanics analytics anything and everything that goes into what makes a quarterback tick if you watch him do you think that he is a good quarterback I’ve never seen
Him in the pocket and had confidence that the play was going to end well we’ll say okay like that is all right it’s more of a hope than can’t and you’re arguing you’re arguing hypotheticals constantly with him I am arguing everything that’s been done and typically you don’t like a first round
Pick that’s been pretty bad yeah through three almost four years they’re not going to just make a jump where you’re like cuz you take a first round quarterback because you want them to lead you to a Super Bowl a Super Bowl ain’t Justin Fields it’s not we uh
Gotta get to the white elephant here in a second okay unfortunately um so we could we could you want to stop or do you want to keep going do you want to end on this note I have a note to end on end on a
Note I’m good like I said I don’t want to talk about Fields anymore all right so we got to get out of here so we’ll uh we we have a white elephant here the office is closing up for the holidays well end on this note it’s not a bears
Note I would like to say congrats to Dave the white socks are not bringing back socks Fest but they are having a party for season ticket hold yeah yeah okay you said he wanted you said he wanted to end we got another half hour I’m sorry that was
Rude I’ll stick in here with Dave while you while he vents about the white sock you could go away to Elephant see okay like they they say like okay the 108 guys um my sock summer I wish I could I I I wish you were here right now cuz he didn’t
Respond to me is not never enough I know he didn’t respond cuz he doesn’t like the answer I gave him he’s like this is a way to reward the guys who haven’t jumped Shi this is a good thing that the socks are doing I vly disagree I as someone who
Is because of how the white sock act a Perpetual glass half empty guy with that organization that’s me looking at them that they’re capitalizing on the collective anger of the fan base and saying Hey cuz at sock Fest they do all the town halls where you get in line you
Can ask Rick hunor whoever whatever you want you’ve before right of course yeah um I’m assuming that they’re going to do something similar with the season ticket holders this is a way to cuz there are going to be fans myself included who is that pissed off at them that will Fork
Up a th000 bucks for you know 40 games or whatever just to air grievances just to air grievances with them on that party and that is my H hypothesis on that cuz I am strongly considering just so I can get in line have Danny sip
Behind me on his cell phone and be like hey [ __ ] how you how you figure you’re going to win games when like nothing organizationally has changed from the last regime you don’t know a guy that can get you in they don’t have it no I I’m pretty barred from them
Right now from who not B but from the white sock yeah I don’t know anybody there they’re all gone now everybody everybody’s [ __ ] know but like oh at the at the party yeah um I I don’t think I’d be let in no I I could try Dave if the the 108 guys for
Example they have season tickets yeah couldn’t one of them take you with them maybe that I think that that’s what I mean like you have to know someone with season tickets beef treesy e Myck summer I would love to be your plus one yeah be let Dave be your thousand yeah cuz Jerry
Doesn’t need that money he he needs to hear from you yeah he does wait does he ever go to those [ __ ] no no of course not not since I’ve been going I’ve been going since high school you how many have you been to I used to Workman High
School cuz I played for the bull Sox Academy teams and we would like I would run the speed pitch at you know you’ve been addicted to speed pitch for forever I was hustling speed pitch at King County cougers games ride my bike there and be like who wants Challenge and I
Would just waste everybody I don’t think I ever heard that story all right you have anything else no that’s it all right let’s go dominate Merry Christmas everyone merry Christmas love you guys and not happy holiday oh
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I think it was nba 2k11 I mastered the Mavs online lmao. Shawn / Dirks goofy ass shots unstoppable with the perfect perfects, and JJ Barea off the bench shooting 40 foot threes
Great Interview. So happy Chief is a big Andre Miller guy!! Love the show Fellas
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Talking about baby dying is a wild thing to talk about.
Seems like Red Ed is there to open the show with a couple words and then to only read advertisements