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00:00 Introduction
01:07 Golf Practice without a ball
05:27 Over the Top from the Inside
06:56 The dreaded “Shallow”
10:00 Trends in Golf Instruction
11:07 Sequencing of the pressure shift
13:15 Turn and the Arms
15:32 Launch and Spin Rate
Welcome back lion Golf Academy members and guests and today is a very special video I figured we’re getting close to the holiday season let’s give you some gifts by answering some of your questions so I put a post out there a couple days ago asking you guys and
Girls to give me some questions about the golf swing the theories drills cause and effect basically anything to do with golf instruction and we got some great questions to answer now I’m going to try and answer these questions from an instructor’s point of view I’m going to
Keep it real with you guys and we’re going to use a few videos of Swing trying to explain the answers to these questions but keep in mind I am trying to answer this question from an instructor’s point and there might be some of you watching that disagree with
My answers but I am going to try and use some facts to back this up and these questions range from all over the place so I think it’s a good group of questions for this first episode to try this out if you do like this hit that like And subscribe share with somebody
You know as your support helps us send funds to needy children down in Cape flat South Africa for the hillah Hood Foundation to help these kids get golf in their life but without further ado let’s go see what’s on your Mind so the first question we have is from a longtime viewer and subscriber signed up for Doc only this is a great leadoff question because it is about practice and how to practice correctly and if you have followed my videos for a while you understand that I’m a huge
Proponent of practicing without the golf ball so his question is are drills without balls worth it since you can’t see the ball flights and how do you know you aren’t actually training bad habits what general drills are good for slice or hook but what drills would also be
Bad for each of those does swinging slower when with a lower power during range time help or just train more bad habits well that is a great question and I’m going to lead it off with a little story time so my Academy is called the lion Golf Academy for multiple reasons
But one of the main reasons besides being one of my favorite animals is the idea that a golf ball is like a lion and you have to tame this lion so I’ll give you an example here let’s say I walk with my heels down first and that is
Just how I know how to walk since I was a child but for some reason I want to learn how to walk with my toes down first yes it’s going to feel very awkward I’m going to have to do it very slowly and methodically think about my
Toes Landing first and then my heels I do this for 6 months and it feels pretty natural but on the 6 month and one day I’m walking along and this lion jumps out of this bush and starts to chase me I would almost guarantee that I would
Forgo my toe down first and go straight to my he down first because that is my natural habit the same thing applies with a golf ball so if you are using a golf ball for practice in full swing scenarios you are most likely going to have your old motion whether you like it
Or not because feel is not real so in order to learn a new move and apply it to your golf swing you are going to have to do thousands of golf swings without a golf ball to give you a fighting chance now I say that because it takes roughly
3 to 5,000 repetitions to create create a new habit now let’s say you have been playing for 20 years how many swings do you have under your belt let’s call it 200,000 swings so for 200,000 swings your body has ingrained a motion now for us to untrain that it’s going to take a
Hell of a lot of swings to undo it so that golf ball does not bring out the lion in order to tame that golf ball you are going to have to do thousands of repetitions without a golf ball and a nice slow controlled swing now if you
Are brand new and only play this game for a month and you only have few hundred swings in you it’s not going to take thousands of gol swings it might only take 50 without a golf ball it’s such an individual case there’s not one
Way to say it but in other words if you played this game a long time you have so much more work to undo than somebody that is brand new which is why it’s so important to start your journey in golf under care with an instructor who knows
How to facilitate and use your body mechanics correctly now in order to answer a question about drills of slicing and hooks again this is such an individual answer and it’s not a cop out this is just how it works both slicing and hooking are affected by your path
Relative to your targets and then also your Club face relative to your path so I have a student that has a rope hook I need to see where their path is related to their targets and then where their Club face is related to the path and go from there now different students adapt
To different types of drills you would need to know the students Tendencies which also lie into the body mechanics are they flexible enough can they understand the drill and case and how can we relate that drill down to the golf ball for real golf ball time
Swinging now for some answer I can give you typically what I see for the person that has trouble slicing is lack of rotation when we have lack of rotation the arms are not behind you enough to come from the inside so they’re always approaching from a very steep over the
Top motion so one quick way to do this is to get your range of motion to increase so you can turn so have a look at your range of em motion and see how that is affecting your path and typically when we have a path issue our
Hands and arms try to take over and that gives us a two-way Miss for those that have a rope hook and a slice it is probably a lack of turn so doc there’s your spot I hope that answers your question somewhat and I hope it gives everybody watching a little bit more
In-depth knowledge to understand that there’s no Universal cure to anything that you are unique as a fingerprint let’s check out the next question next question we have is from kiwi verita and I hope I’m saying that correctly his question is explain the concept of overthe toop from the inside now over
The top from the inside when I first heard that I said what the hell is that but after a quick Google search Let me give you an answer right now on the screen we have Matt Fitzpatrick who won the US Open not too long ago and he has
What is coined has and over the top from the inside now Raymond Floyd had a bigger motion than this and so when I looked it up I was like it just means he has a reverse loop it’s basically what it’s saying and that’s what it is so if
We’re going to another plane line that lower green line that’s a long plane line look at the club face we’re going to take this back up to about Midway points we can see the hands right up that shaft you can see the club head is veing below the shaft here and once we
Get to about Midway there we can see that the club shaft we’re going to draw this in Barney purple we can see that club shaft is somewhat laid off so at the top of the Swing here we can see that shaft is still in that same
Position his arms raised up and he kept that shaft fairly laid off now watch what happens as he comes on down through he’s going to write that shaft right to the center and so we see now his new shaft is actually over the top technically from where his back swing
Was so it is technically over the top but it’s still into out it’s basically a fancy way of summing up a reverse Loop think of Jim furic but the opposite hope that answers your question not much to this question really quick answer if you need more clarification let me know in
The comments below all right next question is from zero GTH goes something like like this hm wouldn’t mind hearing your thoughts on the whole concept of getting shallow don’t like that word it seems like people love the idea of shallow but confuse it with what is more accurately described as dumped under the
Plane or flipping underneath maybe tied to that point what’s your perspective on the pattern of Trends in golf instruction great questions let’s get to it so you have to forgive the VHS quality and eight track sound of this but what we’re going to look at is Bruce
Litsky now Bruce had a very unusual swing he kind of had an over the top inside out swings and it’s actually more common than we thought but this also we’re going to talk about shallowing now shallowing is a huge word that’s going around as of late and I think people are
Taking it way too far by changing their whole spine angles to get that club to be shallow so there is a way to over shallow the club but here’s somebody who still shallows the club from a very upright motion so don’t fall for shallowing because we all shallow
Naturally as long as you are utilizing your body close to correct your Club shaft will shallow because of turning and tilting so let’s go to the top of the Swing here and this will be kind enough to give us a little line at the very top but that white line is not mine
You can thank NBC for that one but what we’re going to look at is the motion on the way down and it all starts right about here did you see how the club just drops straight into the slot now you can see where the top position is it is very
Upright arms are very high the wrists are not bold they’re not flexed they look pretty neutral it’s kind of hard to see with about four pixels there but the most important thing is look at the look at the way the shaft will just drop down into the slot and we’re going to freeze
It right about there so we’re going to redraw that club shaft now if you take a look at where his spine angle is this angle here is fairly close to 90° as long as it gets 90° of your spine angle you have naturally shallowed your club
Now that is plenty shallow what I see sometimes nowadays is I see that club getting down here now anytime the club is below the plane so much you are in trouble you are going to hit that ground way before the golf balls you are going to have to manipulate something to make
Sure that club gets on and that’s very very hard to time now one way I see that people manipulate that club Head is by losing their posture because they all of a sudden drop that right shoulder so far down and just by dropping that right shoulder so far down this club will tend
To shallow so you can still hold an angle when your right shoulder is dropping so far down you’re getting so close to that Earth really quickly and you cannot save it there’s not enough time to do so so you end up in trouble so long story short about shallowing is
Do not search for shallowing most issues come from lack of turn on the way back if you are steep in the top through lack of turn no amounts of shallowing can help you you have to turn more to allow your hands and arms to get back behind
You so then you can drop that right shoulder and drive into the target it’s not a magic move now the trends in the golf instruction world we have seen this over and over again much like the trends in the golf equipment world nothing is new in the golf equipment world nothing
Is new in the golf instruction World they are changing terms to make it seem like is new shallow what was that called before flat thoracic side Bend what was that called before tilting the more these words change they just confuse the students and all of a sudden these I get
These students coming to my lessons with all this verbiage and I know that they are watching too much YouTube because only YouTube has this verbiage and I cannot tell you how many people I see forcing a shallow fighting rope hooks fighting Shanks because it’s the next trend on YouTube please stay away from
Trends I am not a big fan of lumping people into a stack and tilt one plane two plane single plane Square to Square stack and tilt has been around since the invention of Steel shaft rotation swing has been around for 400 years since the first Club was created nothing is new
All I’m trying to do is teach you that you are individual you are as unique as a fingerprint just like a snowflake and therefore your swing should be addressed as such but I hope that answers your question let’s get to the next one okay this next question comes from adava what
Is the proper sequence of mass and pressure shift in the golf swing I hear a lot of conflicting information and I’m curious of your thoughts so adva I’m assuming you’re talking about weight shift and if that is the case I have been exposed to many instructors points
Of views when the PGA Summit when I go to the teaching Summit and I go to educational clinics and I’ve heard it as well just like you have I’ve heard varying information that conflicts each other and the problem really lies down to this saying and I hate to be so brute
Force and the same but there’s more than one way to skin a cat you can technically have a reverse pivot and time your reverse pivot to hit the ball pretty successfully but can you do it over and over and is it good for your body you can have a huge swaying motion
That you can time correctly and hit the ball just as fine now there are studies out there on the best top Elite athlet on what they do I’ve seen studies that their feet work opposite of each other they’re basically trying to spin their heels into each other and that helps
Them turn through I’ve also seen stats where the trail foot acts more like throwing a baseball so what it comes down to again there’s no Universal way to do such a thing you have to just look at your body mechanics and see how you can utilize your turn and your weight
Transfer efficiently but it all stems down to your setup and your ball position I personally try to teach my students more of a throwing motion because that is something that they’re more used to using and why would I go against their natural motion to teach them something else most people that I
Teach are not tour level quality athletes they are The Average Joe’s that have a life and have a family and have other Hobbies so they cannot really utilize their time correctly so when they do practice I want to give them field drills so I will actually throw
Golf balls with them and see how far they can throw a golf ball and work with their footing that way that is an Avenue I go down first and then I take take it from there and see what their cause and effect is and if their path and Club
Face is affected by that motion I know it’s not exactly what you’re looking for but I hope that can kind of give you an idea of what an instructor should go through when trying to deal with the average Joe thanks for the question let’s see the next one the next question
Comes from Innovative program School 7979 when you turn for the takeaway do your arms move back towards your rear or out away from your body that’s a good question and one out of here more than you think so to answer this question I’m going to assume that your body’s in
Decent shape you have decent range of motion and you can turn adequately if that is the case then your body should basically just turn together when I instruct some of my students I try and focus on just establishing hip turn because if if your hips turn typically
Your shoulders and torso turn with your hips and along with that your arms should just stay relatively neutral to the turn they should not really extend outward because that can mess with your weight distribution and this should also not pull inward because that can also mess with your spine angle and also
Weight distribution to your heels so it really comes down to your setup your ball position your range of motion and are you able to just turn your hips and keep things relative to that turn now there are ways to increase your width one of those ways is to add more tilt
With your shoulders but that is getting to a dicey gray area where now you have to add some more manipulation based on that tilting now if you have a body that has limited to range of motion you have an injury you’re up there in an age where your rope range of motions aren’t
What they were 20 30 years ago then yes you might have to feel like your arms and hands of pulling back behind you to make up for that turn something that could help you out is also closing your stance to give you a pre-made turn so if
You close your hips at address 20 30° if you just add 10 more de you’re already at the bare minimum but in a nutshell most of the students that I work with don’t typically have that severe range of motion issues that they can’t get the bear bare minimum bare minimum is 30° of
Hip turn so I want you to pretend you are taking your address position and just turn your hips keep your address position the same we’re basically taking our address position and moving it with the turn don’t pull your arms back don’t pull your arms out don’t add tilt
Basically turn around your spine and you should be far enough away from you where you can still use your hands and arms correctly and they should still have adequate amount of room to do their job hope that answers your question let’s get to our final question this final
Question is probably in the top of most everybody that has hit a driver this comes us from Bruce Ford 9413 thanks Bruce for this question how do I decrease launch angle and change spin rate so Bruce reading this again it says how do I decrease launch angle I don’t
Know if you mean with a driver or with an iron I assume you want to decrease a launch angle and change the spin rate with an iron so I’m going to answer both of these there are three basic ways that you can start to mess with launch angle
And ultimately reduce or increase the spin rate so let’s just take driver off the bat what we’re going to do there’s three areas to do this one you you can hit further up on the club face so in other words te it a little bit higher
And see if that’ll help you with that launch angle number two is you can increase your loft of your driver so in other words if you have a 9° driver take it to 11° it will help you increase that launch angle however it will also increase your back spin you need to know
Your backspin rate before you do that lastly you want want to increase your attack angle which will help you increase your launch angle basically what you’re looking to do is hit up on the ball so a quick way to do this is move your ball position out towards your
Left foot if you are a right-handed player and try to swing up on the ball that’s probably the quickest way you will do this and it’s going to change the dynamic loft of your driver to have a higher launch angle so basically if you have a 9° driver and you hit up on
It about 5° you will have a 14 to 15° launch launch angle and coming with that is a beautiful reduction in spin rate now you cannot forget the club shaft as well Club shaft plays an important role the flexion is it a high kick Point mid kick Point low kick Point how much
Torque the shaft has how light the shaft is how long the shaft is so there are multiple things you can do with the club alone that can help you decrease your spin rate I had a shaft that was way too weak for me and I went to a very stiff
High kick Point shaft sh and it reduced my backspin rate from 4,000 RPM to high 2000s just in the club itself once I was able to use that club correctly I then placed my ball position further up I teed it a little bit higher and that
Reduced it down even more to the low 2,000 so there are plenty ways to help you with launch angle and spin rate now for the irons you are still looking at attack angle you are still looking at ball position most of these things have to do with Dynamic Loft and static Loft
How your Loft changes at impact and how that affects your launch angle and your backspin so keep that in mind I hope that helps you I’m not sure if was of a driver or an iron if you need more explanation let me know in the comments below I appreciate everybody giving me
The questions this was a lot of fun for me to do it took a lot of time to do this so if you do like this please support us by giving a like a subscribe share comment whatever you want to do even in the comments if you want to put
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Thanks Tony. I dont know how you did it but you have somehow created something very different. I practice without a club or a ball often. Right now i only practice ball flight changes. Cause and effect experimentation.
The inside over the top swing is the most common pattern in long drive, the main cause of it is the speed of the backswing leads to an inside takeaway. It's sort of interesting how different goals lead to different swings
Always appreciate you man. Ryan Kolk, PGA
Heyooooo! Thanks for the info man, lots to digest in this video for sure. Makes total sense what you’re saying about making lots of swings without a ball to ingrain new habits. I didn’t think of it that way. People gotta get good lessons before learning terrible habits. Too late for some of us lol. Witchita!
Wichita, thanks for the answers! 👍