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INCLUDE A FROSTY. INSIDE THE NBA IS PRESENTED BY THE KIA TELLURIDE X PRO. >> KIA IS THE OFFICIAL AUTOMOTIVE PARTNER OF THE NBA. >> WELCOME BACK TO INSIDE Y’ALL NBA ALL STAR VOTING PRESENTED BY AT&T IS NOW OPEN VOTE DAILY ON THE NBA APP OR AT NBA OR NBA.COM.

COM SLASH VOTE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ALL RIGHT. HERE WE GO. CELTICS AND THE WARRIORS. STEPH AND JAYSON TATUM READY TO GO. BOSTON COMING IN WITH THE BEST RECORD IN THE EAST. AND BOSTON THE ONLY TEAM FROM THE EAST TO BEAT GOLDEN STATE IN EACH OF THE LAST EIGHT SEASONS. WOW

>> HOW ABOUT THAT. TO BEAT HIM WHEN TO BEAT HIM DURING THE SEASON? >> OH, BARELY BEAT HIM AT LEAST ONCE. EIGHT STRAIGHT YEARS. WOW. ONLY TEAM IN THE EAST. THAT WAS A MOMENT FOR CONCERN EARLY WHEN JAYSON TATUM ROLLS THE LEFT ANKLE AND THEN LEAVES. BUT HE WOULD COME BACK. STEPH WHO

JUST HAD THAT 268 GAME STREAK WITH A THREE, SNAPPED THE OTHER NIGHT. >> YEAH HE’S A SCRUB. YES >> STARTED A NEW STREAK TONIGHT. >> DERRICK WHITE HAD THE TOUCH FROM THREE CHEFS PLAYING GREAT. >> LISTEN BOSTON’S OLD TEAM IS PLAYING GREAT. ESPECIALLY THIS GUY RIGHT HERE. JAYLEN BROWN SEES THE SMALLER

DEFENDER. BARBER CHICKEN ALERT AND THE CURRY WOULD PICK UP FIVE FOULS IN THIS ONE. >> AND HERE’S DERRICK WHITE AGAIN GETTING TO THE PAINT I LIKE THAT HAIRCUT MR. WHITE. >> IT WAS 9176 AT THAT POINT. >> AND HERE COMES STEPH A THREE GAME HOMESTAND. >> LISTEN WHEN YOU’RE A

PROLIFIC MF SCORER MF STANDS FOR MOST FREQUENTLY. HE HAD A SLOW FIRST HALF. YOU CAN’T SLOW A GUY LIKE THIS DOWN. BEST SHOOTER IN THE WORLD ERNIE. >> UH I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. >> THIS THE SECOND BEST WHEN HE’S SHOOTING. WELL KLAY THOMPSON AFTER THOSE FIRST

13 GAMES OF THE YEAR WHAT HE DID NOT HAVE A 20 POINT GAME. >> HE’S DONE IT NINE TIMES IN THE LAST EIGHT 13′ STEPH’S. OH THAT’S TOO MUCH ROOM. TIED AT 121 WITH A BUCK 35 TO PLAY. TATUM NO WAY WAY BOY. LET’S GO TO OVERTIME. LET’S SAY KINNEY

TWO IN OVERTIME COMING IN. SOMEBODY’S GOING TO WIN AN OT GAME FOR THE FIRST TIME. >> AND SOMEBODY’S GOING TO BE ON THREE. OH YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. >> OH POWER DRIBBLE SOLDIERS TAKE OUT THE FOUR POINT LEAD. >> WELL GOOD PASS NOT OVER AL HORFORD CANS A THREE.

>> WE GOT A ONE POINT GAME THAT WAS A GREAT 30S TO PLAY . >> OH THAT’S GOOD RIGHT HERE. >> THERE IT IS. >> THAT’S GOOD ERNIE 99 8′ HE MAKES IT LOOK STAFFORD LET’S. WUN 99 TO 126 IN OVERTIME. >> WARRIORS HAVE WON THREE IN A ROW. THE BOSTON CELTICS

HAVE NOW LOST FOUR STRAIGHT ROAD GAMES. THEY’RE 20 AND SIX ON THE YEAR. BUT THEY’VE LOST FOUR IN A ROW AWAY FROM TD GARDEN. AND STEPH GOES FOR 33. HIS 12TH GAME WITH AT LEAST 30. LET’S HEAR FROM STEVE KIRK. >> UH SAW THE WHOLE PLAY UNFOLD. UH CHRIS ENDED UP

WITH THE REBOUND OR THE LOOSE BALL WHATEVER THAT WAS. AND UH, I SAW HIM LOOK UP AT THE SHOT CLOCK BECAUSE THAT’S YOU KNOW, THAT’S WHAT GREAT POINT GUARDS DO. AND HE SAW, UM, HE SAW STEPH LIKE, HE GLANCED AT THE SHOT CLOCK AND SAW STEPH ACROSS THE COURT. SO CHRIS KNEW HE

HAD ENOUGH TIME AND, UM, NOTHING SHOCKS ME WITH STEPH. I MEAN, THAT SHOT, UM, WAS INSANE. UM, THE CATCH AND SHOOT THE ARC. UM, BUT I FULLY EXPECTED IT TO GO IN AND I THINK ALL OF OUR FANS DID, TOO. UM, THE GUY’S MAGICAL. HE JUST. YOU CAN’T EXPLAIN IT. UM, THAT’S JUST

THE KIND OF STUFF HE DOES, MAN. >> JAMYCHAL A GOOD WAY TO PUT IT AS STEVE KERR JUST SAID. 132 TO 126. GOLDEN STATE TAKES IT IN OVERTIME. UH, I’VE KIND OF RUN OUT OF ADJECTIVES TO DESCRIBE WHAT WE SEE ON A NIGHTLY BASIS FROM THAT GUY. I THINK TIMELY, LIKE HE UNDERSTANDS

THE TIME, THE SCORE AND THE SITUATION. >> SO HE’S ALWAYS GOING TO BE IN THE BIG MOMENTS. HE UNDERSTANDS, LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY. WE’RE DOWN THREE. FOR ME TO KIND OF GET US BACK IN THE GAME, GET THE CROWD GOING. I CAN MAKE THE PLAY THE PASS

OR THE SHOT. SO HE’S JUST TIMELY, YOU KNOW? OF COURSE HE’S A GREAT SCORER AND GREAT SHOOTER, BUT SOME GUYS ARE NOT GREAT SHOOTERS IN IN TIMELY MOMENTS. THEY’RE JUST GREAT SHOOTERS. YOU KNOW WE COULD THERE’S A LOT OF GUYS THAT HAVE DONE THAT. BUT HAVE THEY EVER BEEN TIMELY

AND CONSISTENT IN THE MOMENT ? I WOULD SAY NO. >> I’M WONDERING I’M NOT SAYING I’M JUST WONDERING BECAUSE HE’S BEEN CONSISTENTLY THE BEST SHOOTER HIS WHOLE CAREER. I’M WONDERING, IS IT TIME TO START PUTTING HIM AS THE BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME, BEST PLAYER? >> YOU PUT HIM OVER YOU IN

THE CONVERSATION. I’M ASKING YOU, YES, YOU PUT HIM OVER HERE, YOU YOURSELF WITH STEPH CURRY OVER YOU. >> YEAH, THAT THIS IS WHY HE’S MY FAVORITE PLAYER. >> BECAUSE I’M NOT SAYING FAVORITE. HE MIGHT BE MY FAVORITE TOO, BUT I’M JUST ASKING. YOU THINK HE’S BETTER THAN YOU? >> I PLAYED 20 YEARS,

WATCHED 20 YEARS BEFORE THAT. I’VE NEVER SEEN A GUY LIKE HIM. AND HE’S DOING IT CONSISTENTLY AND HE HAS CHAMPIONSHIPS. YOU PUT HIM OVER MICHAEL? NO NO, I’M NOT PUTTING HIM ANYWHERE. I’M SAYING, OKAY, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL THE CHILDREN CHATTER, IT’S A TIME TO JUST PUT HIM IN THE CONVERSATION.

>> YEAH I THINK I THINK HE’S A I’M ASKING THE FANS IS IT TIME TO YOU KNOW, START PUTTING HIM IN THE CONVERSATION AS WELL? >> I’M A FAN OF THE BEST PLAYERS EVER. >> I’M GONNA PUT IT AS A FAN. YES. I THINK IN TERMS OF POSITION, YOU COULD SAY,

IS HE ONE OF THE BEST IN HIS POSITION THAT EVER PLAY? BUT I THINK THE ONE THING THAT SEPARATES YOURSELF, IF JORDAN, LEBRON IS THE ABILITY TO AFFECT THE GAME IN SO MANY OTHER AREAS. WELL, OKAY. BECAUSE HE’S ONE PART OF ONE PART, ONE PART OF I’M NOT SAYING ONE PART

OF BASKETBALL FOR STEPH. NO. WE HAVE HE’S ALSO HAD HE’S GOT GREAT TEAMS AND I’M NOT SAYING WE’RE NOT TAKING HIM AWAY FROM HIS GREATNESS TO SAY HE’S THERE’S A TIME TO PUT HIM IN THE CONVERSATION. >> I’M JUST ASKING A QUESTION. YES OR NO? WELL, THEY’RE HAVING THE CONVERSATION.

>> HIS NAME WOULD COME UP. NO NO, I DON’T HAVE THE CONVERSATION. >> YEAH. AS THE BEST PLAYER EVER. NO. YEAH. NOT AS THE BEST PLAYER EVER. >> HE CAN DO IT ALL EXCEPT HE’S HE’S THE BEST POSITION. >> HE MIGHT BE BEST IN HIS POSITION, MAN.

>> HE CAN DO IT ALL. LISTEN HIS HIS TITLE IS SOLIDIFIED. HE’S THE BEST SHOOTER EVER BY FAR. BUT I’M SAYING BECAUSE OF WHAT HE’S DONE AND HOW LONG HE’S DONE IT, DO WE PUT HIM IN THAT CONVERSATION? BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT JORDAN 6′ KOBE FIVE. HE’S RIGHT THERE LEBRON FOR

HIM I’M A BARBERSHOP TALKER. >> YEAH LIKE BECAUSE I CAN’T I’M GONNA BE YOU’RE I’M GONNA PUT MYSELF IN A BARBERSHOP THAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT. HE IS ONE OF THE BEST AT HIS POSITION EVER WITHOUT QUESTION. >> SO DOES THE PUT HIM IN THE CONVERSATION. WHAT YOU’RE SAYING? OKAY, SO YOU

WOULDN’T SAY, WELL, LET’S LET’S PUT IT IN. >> YOU CAN’T PUT LET’S PUT, LET’S PUT THE BEST SHOOTER OF ALL TIME IN THE CONVERSATION. NO, I KNOW HE’S NOT THE BEST SHOOTER OF ALL TIME. HE MIGHT BE ONE OF THE BEST POINT GUARDS OF ALL TIME. JUST NOT JUST THE BEST

SHOOTER. HE’S NOT JUST THE BEST SHOOTER. I KNOW, BUT. >> BUT YOU MIGHT SAY THAT IF YOU’RE GOING TO SAY, HERE’S OUR POOL OF BEST PLAYER EVER, EVER, KNOW THAT POOL IS THAT POOL. >> WHAT WAS THAT? POOL AIN’T DEEP. THAT POOL IS NOT. IT’S NOT DEEP WATER IN THERE.

>> SO YOU WOULDN’T INCLUDE THE BEST. >> THERE’S ONLY THERE’S ONLY LIKE THREE. >> YOU WOULDN’T INCLUDE THE BEST SHOOTER OF ALL TIME IN THAT CONVERSATION. >> I WOULDN’T INCLUDE THE BEST REBOUNDER OF ALL TIME IN THAT CONVERSATION. NO, NO , I WOULDN’T PUT A STATISTICAL CATEGORY IN THAT

POOL. THAT POOL IS VERY THIN. >> WHO’S IN IT? >> MICHAEL JORDAN GOT IT LEBRON JAMES YES KAREEM ABDUL JABBAR. YES. AND THEN WE START REACHING. >> NO YOU DON’T REACH. MR. BEEN WHO MR. KOBE BEEN. HE’S NOT IN THE CONVERSATION. >> HE’S HE’S RIGHT HE’S NEXT. THEN WE START REACHING

NO NO YEAH WE START REACHING AFTER WE BEEN. >> AND I’M SAYING I, I, I THINK I PUT STEPH CURRY IN THAT COACH. >> I’M JUST SAYING I MEAN THOSE ARE THAT’S THE POOL TO ME KAREEM LEBRON MICHAEL BECAUSE THEY DOMINATE IN SO MANY AREAS. THEY CAN HAVE AN OFF SHOOTING NIGHT AND

AFFECT EVERYTHING THAT GOES IN THE GAME. >> HE HAD AN OFF SHOOTING NIGHT IN THE FIRST HALF. YOU SAW NO NO NO SECOND HALF DEFENSIVELY HE MAKES IT REBOUNDING BLOCKED SHOTS. YOU JUST LEFT ME LEADERSHIP. >> DEFINITELY HE’S A GREAT. NOW YOU SAY NOW HE’S IS HE

THE ONE. TOP 2 OR 3 POINT GUARDS EVER OF WITHOUT QUESTION. YEAH WITHOUT QUESTION. BUT THAT DOESN’T QUALIFY YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION OF BEST PLAYER PLAYER OF ALL TIME. NOT PLAYER PLAYER EVER. >> WE’VE GOT PAUL AYTON A LOT OF WATER IN THAT POOL. >> HEY, LET’S GO THERE. REAL COOLER.

>> TALK TO SOMETHING 3′ SOMETHING. >> SOMETHING. AND WHAT DID KENNY DO? >> WAS BEARD TRYING TO GET THAT? I >> OH, IT’S A MONTH AND A HALF. >> LET’S GO. PRESAGING I’M TRYING TO GET IT RIGHT. THAT’S HIS STYLIST THERE JANE. >> NO DOUBT FOR HIGHLIGHTS. >> YEAH

47 Comments

  1. Hands down! Steph is in the conversation. It's not a matter of is he the best? It's that he's an obstacle to becoming the best. He's someone that you absolutely have to measure up to and surpass on the road to the best ever.

  2. Stats I just read:
    LeBron James has 10,593 assists in his career. 4th All Time.
    Steph is 43rd. Is rhis close?
    Curry became 43rd all-time in assists after reaching 5,851,
    Former Warriors guard Avery Johnson, who totaled 5,846.

    How is it even remotely possible for Steph to be greatest ever convo.

  3. So Steve Kerr has time to watch the replay of CP3’s assist to Steph but not Draymond’s punch? Not a hater at all but the hypocrisy is a bit too much

  4. Shaq, we appreciate you for always speaking facts. The constant disrespect for Kobe is wild.

    10 years ago you had the same people/ media, covering Kobe, saying he is literally, the best player in the NBA.

  5. Greatest shooter ever
    Greatest point guard ever
    & top 10 greatest player ever.

    Yes we put him in the conversation as “one of the greatest players ever” not just “greatest player ever” but he’s without a doubt top 10 for sure.

    Also my top 10 is
    Lebron
    Jordan
    Kobe
    Bird
    Steph
    Magic
    Kareem
    Bill
    Shaq
    Wilt

  6. Just like that, Shaq put Steph in the conversation and Kenny took minutes to discuss Steph against others without knowing he was in the conversation. 🙂

  7. Can we once and for all stop calling Steph a point guard? He’s a shooting guard and one of the best ever.

  8. To say someone is in the conversation of the greatest, is to say you can debate that they are the greatest. The geatest, he is not. Therefore, he is not in the conversation. There you go.

  9. If Bill Russell > Wilt bc he beat him in the finals so many times, then Steph > LeBron for the same reason.

  10. The new normal is big men wanting to shoot 3s more than throw it down… Giannis and AD as great as they are now obviously wish they can shoot like Steph. He has changed the game. Like Jordan changed the game. If he can dominate for another Championship streak, then yes. For now though, he’s closer to Dame than he is to Shaq or definitely Jordan.

  11. Why do NBA jerseys sold outside of the USA not have the sponsor logo. Like the Rakuten logo? Are we being sold fakes or is there a legitimate reason behind this. Please help this is frustrating

  12. Curry is arguably the most SKILLED player of all time. The others – MJ, Kareem, Shaq , LeBron – all had extraordinary physical attributes that gave them a huge advantage. Steph does not. The closest comparisons might be Magic and Larry Bird, neither of whom were extraordinary in their athleticism.

  13. I agreed with Kenny's take cause that's always been my take. MJ, Kareem, Bron, Kobe and then talk about everybody else.

    And if someone argues Championships only and put bill up there I'll accept that.

  14. lol it’s funny to see retired shooter getting jealous for the worlds best shooter! Still saying he is not the best shooter! Kenny you give best shooter for the garbage time! Leave your ego out like Shak! I am not a Shak fan or Steph fan but if I were you I would make fare debate! You clearly sound you don’t like Steph even as a best shooter of all time! Cmon do better!

  15. I think Steph does deserve to be in that conversation. I feel like he’s done enough at this point. He truly is the driving force of that team. You could replace anyone else but him and I’ll also say KD and you’ll still get 4 chips

  16. There’s a lot Steph does defensively that isn’t reflected in the box scores. I swear sometimes people act like he’s just waiting for his chance to shoot any time Warriors aren’t in possession of the ball.

  17. Why is Bill Russell's name never mentioned whenever there's a conversation about the GOAT? The man is the greatest winner of all time. He was a dominant defender, ferocious rebounder, and one of the best leaders in nba history. He was the bus driver and carrier of those Boston Celtics teams that won 11 championships in 13 years. He also changed how the game was played because there was no one jumping up to block shots before he did it. He invented it; thus, he revolutionized the game of basketball during his playing days. 🐐 🏆

  18. steph gets into slumps way too often. when the 3 isn't going down for him, he is worthless on the court as you can see this season he has been horrible. He does not play make, he does not defend or get others invloved. He has also had a relatively short prime. He is the best shooter, but you cannot be the best player when you have nothing but a 3 pointer to offer. he wasn't even finals mvp when he won…low keycurry is simply a shooter on a great team so his shooting shines more.

  19. Kenny was right! He is definitely not in the conversation for greatest ever. Grratest PG fasho!He wasn't even the finals MVP of all four of his rings. Shaq needs to pipe it down. Kobe also wasnt the mvp of his 5 rings (2 final mvps). Yall sleep on Kobe having the most misses in NBA history also😮 Let's not get too excited!

  20. News Alert to NBA and TNT, and Serious Sane Listeners, especially Shac. In Reality, Steph can thank Dreymond "Sucker Puncher"Green as the primary reason he will forever have a Non-Removal Stain on his Great Legacy and tarnish his reputation as the GOAT. When the Warriors broke the Chicago Bulls All-Time Record in wins during the regular season,and turned around and became the first team in NBA History, to lose the NBA Championship to the Lebron James- led Cleveland Cavaliers after being up 3 to 1. Green's suspension in game 6 of that series, could be looked at, as a main reason they failed to win the CHIP. Just a Talkie Talk Thought and Real Opinion, on how The Real GOAT, Michael Jordan never experienced the issue Curry experienced.

  21. Kenny just being Disrespectful…if Kobe is a "reach" then so is Hakeem…and I feel like Kenny didn't mention Hakeem because it always looks biased. This is a hot take all day

  22. I don't think EVEN Steph would put Steph in the GOAT convo..
    1*. MJ *2*.Kareem/Wilt *3*.Shaq/Tim/Hakeem *4*. KOBE/LeBron/Bird *5*. Magic/Isaiah/Dirk 6 .Jokic/Steph/KD/Melo*

  23. Nah he aint there. Without Durant, GSW has no DOMINATION of an ERA. Best shooter yes, but GOAT conversation, nah! The GOAT covers all aspects of a player. Kenny is right. That's a effin reach

  24. Bro! He can't play defence!! This is what all these conversations leave out….there's 2 sides to the game (there was 🙄) and to be the goat you must excel in all facets.

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