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Brian Windhorst is joined by Tim Bontemps and Tim MacMahon to talk about the start of preseason, early reps for new-look offenses like the Suns, some difficult lineup decisions in Boston and Golden State, the impact of some key injuries around the league, including Marcus Smart, Jarrett Allen and more.
0:00 Intro 
1:15 Celtics Starting Lineup Indications
16:55 76ers Start Of Preseason
21:40 New-Look Offense For Suns
33:15 Injury Updates Jarett Allen & State Of Cavs
43:05 Marcus Smart Injury For Memphis
46:20 Draymond Injury Impact On Starting Lineup

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42 Comments

  1. Man it was just a moment but the Kyrie hate is still weird. Wiggins disappeared for like 60 games but is given grace Kyrie didn't want to get a shot and all any one says is selfish. Yet not one person cares about his health just what he can do for them smh

  2. Timestamp 7:04 Best Pozingis dunk you'll ever see but it sad though that as we watch it banned MacMahon reminds us that "his durability has been an issue practically his entire career"

  3. Maxey can still avg 25ppg even with Harden in the lineup. Embiid won’t have to score as much, and because of that can also focus more on defense

  4. Did y'all watch the playoffs the last three years? Jrue had his moments, but overall his shooting has been awful. In the regular season, absolutely a better player than Smart, but not in the playoffs. There's a reason Milwaukee traded him.

  5. No disrespect D.White but if Joe Mazzula has Jrue Holiday a all-star, nba champion, 1st team All Defense and Olympic gold medalists…..off the bench over D. White you are really nuts

  6. Wow, not much love, if not outright derision, from Brian and the others for JK, just three years as a pro without a day in college and little playing time in year one. I hope he has a monster year in year 3 and Brian has to do a mea culpa on the podcast.

  7. starters v most teams is gonna be white jrue jb jt zinger – white i think should still be the pg. put jrue in dwhites roll last yr n just scaled up minutes

    zinger and al need the most rest not jrue. but they'll manage minutes esp if p plays like he did last night

  8. Starting Horford and KP makes no sense, then playing them 30 minutes in a a meaningless game yesterday on the 1st of a back to back is even worse. Mazzulla is the Brandon Staley of the NBA.

  9. Now you think Jrue is better than Jaylen but when he was on the Bucks he wasn't better than Marcus Smart???

  10. White is Not a better player than Porgingiz… Porgingiz based on last season is a legitimate All Star. Shot block and stretch the floor drop 25 any night

  11. The only thing I didn’t understand about cp3 and curry is who going to be the main dribbler. Who going to run the offence.

  12. Grayson Allen is probably the worst playoff player in the league, now he's a plus addition on a contender
    A contender that needs defense and especially perimeter defense, btw

    You guys are HILARIOUS!
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  13. I had similar thoughts about tatum’s shooting. Brown’s ball handling is still suspect

  14. In what world suns are not better at defence then in playoffs? Nurkic has more steals and blocks then Ayton. Allen plays defence. Little plays defence. Why do you think they are worst team than last season?

  15. Derrick White is a Spurs guy… He doesn't give me vibes of a guy bitching cause he doesn't start over Jrue Holiday 😅

  16. you know you made it when you are in nba countdown on a sunday during nfl season. LOOOOOOOL

  17. If you’re going to put the dubs in the title you might consider talking about them for more than two minutes all the way at the end

  18. That’s what’s crazy if Jrue is the 4th best then the rest of the league is in trouble. Jrue was def the 2nd best player for the bucks. And as a bucks fan you can’t say that you are not worried about losing your perimeter defense.
    Seriously this Celtics team is scary and everyone is talking about it makes me wonder where this team will be at the end of the season.

  19. Celtics played all their starters and almost lost to back ups reserves and Maxey lololol. It's like a social experiment when boston fans will realize their roster got worse for a title lol. Literally getting bullied by unrostered guys lolol. That frontcourt is gonna be fd

  20. Jesus kristaps better not leave boston. People think hes fing jesus christ over there. Literally anyone else in the nba world its meh. Boston acting like this tall slice of tissue paper is shaq lololol

  21. Jrue is better(defense) PG choice than CP3(assist) yet Celtics should of traded R.Williams to Bulls for Vucevic instead of Porzingis.

  22. first 16 minutes on Celtics lineup??? Cmon this time of year spread it around. This isn’t the 96 bulls !

  23. we live in a world where Kornet is a better option than DWight Howard and a bench player gets 30 million over a john wall signing

  24. Did they really say that because they promised Derrick White the PG position they l it could hurt his feelings to have Jrue start in his place? Trading Brogdon and Time Lord and picks for your 6th man because it’ll be a tough conversation? What do these GMs get paid for if they can’t hurt some feelings and have difficult conversations?

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