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Football to me goes be era's and some QB were so good in my eyes but not in others who made me get excited that I was going to get to watch them to me that QB was the Snake
There are lots of "Greatest of Now" QBs. And there are GOATS that have to pass the mantle. Johnny U to Bradshaw to Montana to Brady. The eyeball test is too subjective. When somebody beats Brady's numbers, and I mean WINS at every level, they will be the GOAT. Of course keep politicking Brady away because his numbers seem insurmountable. BTW personal life is NOT part of the GOAT discussion.
Good grief this guy is rambling.
Wtf is the discussion? I’m so confused. Why are people spending so much energy on this topic? What a waste of time but do you
He should be, but Joe Montana is still the GOAT, no offense to Brady. Montana is in nobody’s shadow.
Who understands this interpretation? Everyone has chosen the sport with all the risks of being injured. Stop it sooner or later. It's hard but true. I don't think personal things belong in this GOAT discussion. Let's talk facts. Tom Brady is not responsible for how Montana feels and want to hear.
These discussions are driven by the public the media and Talk shows like this.
Just look at the publications, comments and interviews regarding GOAT. This was an issue long before Tom Brady announced his retirement.
what is this garbage? so we are supposed to feel bad for him because he is a narcissist who can't accept that someone is greater than him instead of being gracious? listen to tom brady. he never wanted the title of GOAT, and still doesn't. he has always praised those before him in public and private. this is just ugly from joe montana. this article talks about him rooting against tom brady and referring to him as "the guy from tampa bay" despite tom being nothing but gracious towards him. such a pathetic way for an all-time great to go out…
Wow, Montana really let himself go. That beard is not a good look for him either.
No one’s better than Brady was. I’ll revisit this statement in 15 years if Patrick keeps it up AT LEAST that much longer and wins another 6+ rings
So this is a way for joe montana to being a relevant again ? By bashing tom brady ? Very cheap. This narrative of joe didn’t like brady came out after his retirement is just a way for how they seling a story like why not telling it before or even when he winning his 7th. People mention tom brady in whatever case they were doing to get people attention lol. Cs they knew he gonna withdraw viewers.😒
And the upbringing of joe getting injured & number of surgery he had give me a break. How are we gonna supposed to react ? Crying & pleased about it ? And say “ omg poor joe he’ll be the greatest bcs of that” 🤣😬 I bet all of fotball players is dealing with injury. Brady also had some of injury in his carrers & (maybe some of them he never talks abt it) but he also take care of himself better than everybody so that’s why he has a longevity.
FACTS DON'T CARE ABOUT JOE'S FEELINGS! TOM BRADY IS CLEARLY THE GOAT! BEST REGULAR & PLAY-OFF PALYER OF ALL TIME. HE SHOULD HAVE 10 SUPER BOWLS. PERIOD! ROBBED FROM 2 NFL MVP'S! PERIOD! UNANIMUS NFL MVP! PERIOD!
LIST OF WHY TB12 IS THE GOAT! – NEEDS TO BE UPDATED – LAST 2 SEASONS (2021 & 2022) STATS NOT INCLUDED! WHY TOM BRADY TB12 IS THE GOAT/BOAT OF ALL TIME! – EPISODE I
Let's start with the new "fake goat"!
TOM BRADY TB12 THE GOAT/BOAT vs mohomoboy
mahomoboy will never ever be or beat the GOAT! – LOOK WHAT THE GOAT HAD TO WIN WITH, A BUNCH OF NOBODYS, IN THE WORST WEATHER CONDITIONS YOU'LL EVER SEE!
AT THE AGE 43: GOAT STATUS…
– mohomoboy 50 million, with a stack super dream team (Nº1 TE, WR, OF, ETC IN THE NFL) – 0-2 against the GOAT in the Playoffs. AFC Title Game & Superbowl.
– mahomoboy 2 superbowl appearances – 2 TDS – 4 INT 57.1 PCT 54.2 QBR – LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
– Tom Brady is 4–0 in the playoffs against Andy Reid. Brady is the only QB in #NFL history with four postseason wins-including 2 Super Bowl victories against one head coach. Brady led the Patriots to a win over Reid’s Eagles in Super Bowl XXXIX / Chiefs in 2015 Divisional Round/ Chiefs in 2018 AFC Championship, & finally Brady led the Bucs to win over Reid's Chiefs in Super Bowl LV.
– Andy Reid, the 2nd best coach in the NFL – 0-4 against the GOAT!
Imagine Brady never sat on the bench for 2 years when he first started and never missed 2008 his records would be even more LEGENDARY!
TB12 is the only QB to win a SB in both the AFC and the NFC.
TB12 is the football conductor of a symphony in seven movements.
EPISODE II INCOMING…
WHY TOM BRADY TB12 IS THE GOAT/BOAT OF ALL TIME! – EPISODE II
TOM BRADY TB12 THE GOAT/BOAT vs billybob – PART I
1. Bill Belichick is 71-79 (47.3%) in the regular season as a head coach without Tom Brady and 219-64 (77.4%) with Tom Brady
2. Bill Belichick is 1-2 (33.3%) in the playoffs as a head coach without Tom Brady and is 30-11(73.2%) in the playoffs with Tom Brady
3. Bernie Kosar, Vinny Testaverde, Drew Bledsoe, Matt Cassell, Jimmy Garroppolo, and Cam Newton have a COMBINED 11 Pro Bowl selections, 16 playoff appearances, 6 conference championship game appearances, and 3 Super Bowl appearances with 8 different head coaches in their careers. Those same 6 quarterbacks have made a TOTAL of 0 Pro Bowls, 1 playoff appearance, and 0 conference championship game appearances with Belichick as their head coach
4. Belichick has 9 full seasons as a head coach without Brady under his belt. In those 9 seasons without Brady, he has failed to make the playoffs 7 times with 6 losing seasons
5. Belichick was fired from the Cleveland Browns prior to the 1996 NFL season. The Browns were then promptly relocated to Baltimore where they won a Super Bowl in the 2000 season
6. Belichick was hired as the Browns head coach prior to the 1991 NFL season. The Browns played in the AFC Championship game in 1986, 1987, and 1989
7. Belichick is 35-35 (50.0%) as head coach of the Patriots without Tom Brady. He saw an IMMEDIATE 6 win increase and Super Bowl win as soon as Brady became starter in 2001 and saw an IMMEDIATE 5 win dropoff and playoff miss when Brady missed an entire season in 2008. Then he saw another IMMEDIATE 5 win dropoff once Tom Brady left for the Buccaneers in 2020
8. The 2008 Patriots scored 179 fewer points (11.2 PPG) than their 2007 counterparts and Matt Cassell threw for 1,113 fewer yards, 29 fewer touchdowns, 4 more interceptions, and had a 27.8 decrease in passer rating from Tom Brady in 2007 with the only subtractions from the team being Asante Samuel and Tom Brady. The 2008 Patriots also had the 5th easiest SOS and were 2-4 against playoff teams while still missing the playoffs. The 2007 Patriots had the 8th hardest SOS while being 6-0 against playoff teams in the regular season
9. Drew Bledsoe made the Pro Bowl with 3 different head coaches, but couldn't with Belichick. Drew Bledsoe also threw for 3,691 yards in 18 games with Belichick, but the moment he goes to Buffalo, he throws for 4,354 yards while posting a better record (being a win away from making the playoffs) and making the Pro Bowl
10. Pete Carroll took the Patriots under Drew Bledsoe to the playoffs twice while Belichick could not do it in his season with Bledsoe. In his 3 seasons as the Patriots head coach, Pete Carroll went 27-21 with 2 playoff appearances and 0 losing seasons
11. In his 6 years as a head coach before 2001, Bill Belichick had never had a top 10 ranked scoring offense. The Patriots offense ranked 25th in 2000 with Drew Bledsoe at quarterback. In 2001, Tom Brady's first year as a starter, the Patriots ranked 6th in scoring offense
12. Drew Bledsoe has had 10 career 40+ point games in his career, with 3 different teams and 3 different head coaches. His highest point total under Bill Belichick was 30 points which was achieved just once in 18 games
13. Drew Bledsoe's worst career record of 5-11 was achieved with Bill Belichick as head coach. Bledsoe has produced a better record with every other head coach and team he's ever played for, including the Buffalo Bills
14. Vinny Testaverde's best season under Bill Belichick was in 1995 when he threw for 2,887 yards and 17 touchdowns. The very next season Bill Belichick was fired and Testaverde threw for 4,177 yards and 33 touchdowns while making the Pro Bowl under interim head coach Ted Marchibroda. Testaverde now sits at all time in passing yards and and all time in passing touchdowns. He has 7 seasons that are better than his best season with Belichick
15. The Patriots offensive coordinator Charlie Weis from 2000-2004, produced 3 top 10 scoring offenses in 4 seasons with Brady as his starting quarterback. Without Brady, he has only produced 1 top 10 scoring offense in 5 seasons
16. Josh McDaniels who was the Patriots offensive coordinator from 2006-2008, and then from 2012-2021, has had a top 10 scoring offense every single year Brady has been his starting quarterback. McDaniels left to become the head coach of the Denver Broncos from 2009-2010. In those two seasons, his scoring offense ranked 20th and 19th respectively. McDaniels was then fired and became the offensive coordinator of the St. Louis Rams in 2011 where his scoring offense ranked 32nd among teams
17. Bill O'Brien became the Patriots offensive coordinator in 2011 where he had the #3 scoring offense in the league. He then went on to be the head coach of the Houston Texans, where, in 6 seasons with the team, he never produced 1 top 10 scoring offense, even with players like Deshaun Watson and DeAndre Hopkins
18. Before Tom Brady, Bill Belichick had never coached a team with either 4,000 passing yards or 30 passing touchdowns in a season. In fact, he didn't do it when Tom Brady missed an entire season in 2008 or in 2020 after Brady left via free agent one year following Tom Brady throwing for over 4,000 yards at 42 years old
19. Bill Belichick fully expected to be fired in the 2001 season before the Drew Bledsoe injury. According to Charlie Weis, Belichick called him on the phone and told him to put his house up for sale because he didn't think they were going to last too much longer. According to a Jets coach, in week 2 Belichick and Charlie Weis were talking to them before the game and were saying "We're going to get fired". The Jets coach then detailed how Belichick told them how they didn't want Bledsoe, but he was a big locker room presence
20. Bill Belichick had 3 quarterbacks to start under him that were drafted 1st overall in their respective drafts. Bill Belichick has gone 16-15 with Vinny Testaverde (drafted 1st overall in 1987 NFL draft), 5-13 with Drew Bledsoe (drafted 1st overall in 1993 NFL draft), and 7-8 with Cam Newton (drafted 1st overall in 2011 NFL draft) for a COMBINED record of 28 -36 (43.8%) with 1st overall draft picks at quarterback
21. Bill Belichick has gone 14-21 (40.0%) with quarterbacks that have gone on to make the Super Bowl with another head coach. Bill Belichick has gone 5-13 with Drew Bledsoe who made the Super Bowl in 1996 with Bill Parcels as head coach, 2-0 with Jimmy Garroppolo who made the Super Bowl in 2019 with Kyle Shanahan as head coach, and 7-8 with Cam Newton, who made the Super Bowl in 2015 with Ron Rivera as head coach.
22. In 2016, when Tom Brady missed 4 games due to suspension, the Patriots went 3-1 with Jimmy Garroppolo and then Jacoby Brissett at quarterbacks. In those 4 games, the Patriots played 2 games against teams who finished the season with losing records, 3 games at home, and they were shut out 16-0 to a Buffalo Bills team at home whom Brady put up 41 points against 4 weeks later on the road. The best team the Patriots played in those 4 games were the Houston Texans, who had 16 touchdowns to 17 interceptions on the season and had the same number of fumbles lost as rushing touchdowns. Jacoby Brissett threw a grand total of 0 touchdown passes in 10 quarters played during that 4 game stretch
23. Art Modell is 305-253-8 (54.7%), with 18 playoff appearances, 8 conference championship game appearances, a NFL championship (1964), and a Super Bowl championship (2000) as a NFL owner in games Bill Belichick was not his head coach. In games Bill Belichick was his head coach, Art Modell is 36-44 (45.0%) with 1 playoff appearance and 0 conference championship game appearances
24. Robert Kraft was 54-42 (56.3%), with 4 playoff appearances, 1 conference championship game appearance, and 1 Super Bowl appearance in 6 seasons as a NFL owner from 1994-1999 (bought the team in 1994) without Bill Belichick as his head coach. Robert Kraft is 35-35 (50.0%) with 1 playoff appearance in 4 FULL seasons with a Bradyless Bill Belichick as his head coach
25. In 18 seasons with Tom Brady as his starting quarterback, Bill Belichick won his division 17 times. In 9 seasons without Tom Brady as his starting quarterback, Bill Belichick won his division 0 times
HY TOM BRADY TB12 IS THE GOAT/BOAT OF ALL TIME! – EPISODE III
TOM BRADY TB12 THE GOAT/BOAT vs billybob – PART II
Patriots Defense:
2001: 13th
2002: 15th
2003: 2nd
2004: 6th
2005: 28th
2006: 7th
2007: 10th
2009: 14th
2010: 23rd
2011: 30th
2012: 17th
2013: 20th
2014: 12th
2015: 11th
2016: 16th
2017: 31st
2018: 19th
2019: 1st
Look/Search – Footballoutsiders stats Nfl team-efficiency 2020
2001: The offense went from 25th in 2000 to 6th in scoring offense
2003: The defense allowed 29 points to Jake Delhomme and the Carolina Panthers in the Super Bowl
2004:The only time the defense legitimately can claim credit for winning the Super Bowl
2007: The defense gives up the David Tyree catch in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl after Tom Brady took the lead
2011: Tom Brady's worst defense in his career
2014: Tom Brady came back from the largest deficit (at the time) in Super Bowl history against the legion of boom throwing 2 touchdown passes in the 4th quarter
2016: Tom Brady came back from down 28-3 in the Super Bowl while playing a perfect 2nd half
2017: The defense allows 41 points to Nick Foles
2018: The defense allowed 29.5 PPG through the first 2 rounds of the playoffs and it took Tom Brady averaging 34 PPG through the first 2 rounds to even make the Super Bowl
if the defense was the reason for half the wins? Then how does Brady have 5 Superbowl MVP's 1 Edelman 1 Branch. Maybe of Brady's 2 Superbowls the defense was probably the main reason they won. Maybe 2 Superbowls, with a ratio of (60%def-40%off.). However even then Brady has 6 game winning drives in the 4th quarter or OT in ALL Superbowl wins. That's all time ALL TIME clutch. If you want to get technical he got the lead or tie late in the 4th quarter of ALMOST EVERY SUPERBOWL he played in. 9 of 10!!
WHY TOM BRADY TB12 IS THE GOAT/BOAT OF ALL TIME! – EPISODE IV
TOM BRADY TB12 THE GOAT/BOAT vs billybob PART III & Some examples of TB12 GOAT BOAT GREATNESS!
10) 2009 Vs Titans – no explanation needed, 5 TDs in a quarter
9) 2018 AFCCG vs Chiefs – put up 37 points on the road, won in OT converting three 3rd and 10s in a row to make sure Mahomes never touched the ball
8) 2013 vs Broncos – one thing the video doesn’t convey; Brady was not he reason they were down 24-0. He ended up with 344 yards, 3 TDs, no picks
7) SB 52 vs Eagles – playoff record 505 yards and 3 TDs, most points ever scored by a team that lost the SB
6) 2011 divisional vs Broncos – tied the postseason TD record with 6…..and he did it with 27 minutes left in the game
5) 2017 VS Texans – 378 yards 5 TDs, the last TD came with 23 seconds remaining to win the game 36-33
4) Pats Ravens 2014 Divisonal – 367 yards, 3 TDs plus a rushing TD. Pats were down by 14 at two different points of the game, Brady threw an absolute dime of a TD to take the lead for good in the 4th quarter. The pats didn’t attempt a run in the second half. Brady absolutely carried them
3) SB 38 vs Panthers – had an 11 point lead in the 4th quarter, but the defense couldn’t hold up and Brady had to retake it two more times
2) SB 49 vs Seahawks – greatest 4th quarter in SB history. 13/15 for 124 yards and 2 TDs against a team that had allowed 10 points in its last eight 4th quarters combined
1) SB 51 vs Falcons – I mean how do you argue against it. Every good qb has games where they put up monster numbers. There’s never been another SB performance like this
Honorable mention to 2007 divisional game (playoff record completion rate 92.8%, 3 TDs no picks), SB 39 (110 rating with 2 TDs and no picks, and his third game winning drive in the SB), his two perfect passer rating games, 517 yard game against the phins
Aaron Rodgers is 0-42 when trailing by more than one point in the fourth quarter to a team with a winning record(.500+)
Let that sink in.
Did you know: If you took away all the playoff TD passes that Tom Brady has to Moss, Gronk, Branch, Edelman, Welker, Hogan & Amendola…
Brady would still have the most playoff TD passes in history.
Brady has 80. Removing all those guys puts him at 46. Rodgers & Montana are 2nd with 45.
18%. Just think in 2000 years unless he’s still playing, it will be under 1%.
That’s something Brady haters can wait for.
Tom Brady now has more super bowl appearances than Phillip Rivers has children.
Patriots before Brady 5-11 first year with Brady super bowl
Tampa before Brady 7-9 first year with Brady super bowl
Bill Belichick has had 4 pro bowl quarterbacks thru his head coaching career. Vinny Testaverde, Drew Bledsoe, Cam Newton, and Tom Brady. He’s 48-64 with the 3 other quarterbacks not named Tom Brady. Bill should have gotten on his knees to beg Brady to stay.
Brady was great in Michigan. He was already the Comeback kid in college. Belichick is a defensive coordinator turned coach. He doesn't work with the offense.
Belichick should kiss the ground Brady walked on for saving his job in New England. There's also the fact that Brady took paycuts for YEARS to keep quality players around him. What did Belichick do? Spend their capital on defense. Brady consistently had to play with under-sized, under-utilized receivers. Remember how everyone has always said Brady could pull people off the street and turn them into Wide Receiving superstars? That's not Belichick…
You can't give Belichick credit for developing Brady when he wins the Superbowl in his first year. 3 out of 4 in his first four years. He's got no time to develop Brady. He came straight from two championship years in college.
People makes too many dumb comments to even take him seriously…Bill Belichick can teach a 6th round draft choice how to win but can't figure out how to win with All Pro 100 million dollar quarterback Drew Bledsoe…it's obvious he paid someone to take his exams for him in college.
Not only did Brady work wonders at Michigan, but Bledsoe led pats were 0-4 when Brady took over. They would not lose another game that year. Matt Casell had the exact same roster as Brady had in 07, didn't even make the playoffs. Oh, and we are going to forget how Belichick almighty defense fell apart in those 3 superbowl loses, especially when he SAT MALCOLM BUTLER? Brady was team first always. But if you are going to replace Tom, you have to beat him for his spot. He said that over a decade ago. Belichick tried to put in Jimmy when Jimmy couldn't take Brady's spot. AFTER Belichick hung Brady out to dry over deflategate. So no. At the end of the Day, It was the G.O.A.T. and a good head coach. But the Patriot way was built on Brady not Belichick.
Belichick without Brady 51-65. Brady without Belichick 11-5 with a Superbowl.
You can't claim Mozart was great because of his teacher.
Patriots SPENT ALL resources they had every year on D… they always ignored offense… yet Brady ALWAYS had a top 2 offense with a coach that ignored offense…
What coach couldn't get consistent top 10 Ds with all resources spent on D..
What a joke
Belichick with Brady… 17/18 DIVISION TITLES…
BELICHICK without Brady… 0/8 DIVISION TITLES…
bro not just that… but versus Giants in the Superbowl Patriots were winning 7-3 in the 3rd qtr… in FG range on a 4th and 13, and Bill against the best PASS DEFENSE in NFL went for 4th and 13 instead of taking the 3.. to go up 10-3… giving a 7 point lead.. I remember at the time, thinking that is the stupidest decision I've EVER SEEN any COACH make, yet Nobody Talks about it EVER!
meanwhile the final score??
A 3 point loss!!
The field goal he turned down!
bill had a losing record as a head coach till be got Brady
Been a Patriots fan since the early 70's and have seen almost every game. Here are the cold hard facts. Belichick has coached 8 full years (and Brady's 4 game suspension in 2015) without Brady as starting QB. 5 with the Browns and 3 with the Patriots (2000, 2008 and 2020). During that time he made it to 1 playoff and had 2 winning seasons. His record without Brady is 62 wins, 70 losses. That's not a small sample size. The bottom line is that without Brady, Belichick is a losing coach.
Tom Brady is the guy who kept those teams together and made the thing work. As Danny Amendola recently pointed out, this "Patriot way" horseshit was Tom Brady-period. Players respected Belichick but have never liked him. Free agents came to play with Tom Brady-not Belichick. Belichick is arrogant, inflexible and overrated.
Without Brady, Belichick will never win another Super Bowl in the foreseeable future. Every year that the Patriots continue to lose Belichick's legacy will continue to diminish.
So Belichick almost invested 300 MILLION IN 2020 When Brady went to Tampa Bay, AN NFL RECORD, WHY?
BECAUSE HE IS SO GOOD? WHAT DID Belichick WHEN THE TB12 GOAT BOAT WAS THERE? NOTHING! NIENTE! NADA!
BILL PARCELLS STARTED THE PATRIOT WAY NOT Belichick!
Teddy Bruschi, Willie McGinest, Ty Law, Troy Brown and that original core of players that won in 2000 (that was mostly put together by Bill Parcells thru the draft).
And by the time Amendola got there, the Patriots Way was definitely Tom Brady as he was the only OG Super Bowl winner from that time, but the mentality was built by that original team, Brady included.
Belichick's drafting has been terrible. No drafted pro bowlers since 2013, and they constantly miss on free agents.
FOR EXAMPLE:
1 – Manning was not a cold-weather QB. His record when temp was below 40 degrees = 4-17
2 – Out of every single QB who has played in the NFL since 2000, not a single one has more than 2 Super Bowl rings.
3 – Aaron Rodgers 1-42 when down in the 4th quarter against teams with winning records. You want to win blow out pointless games or do you want someone who can fight through adversity and win you rings?
4 – Tom Brady has 7 RINGS!!!!!!!!!!
See the thing about Brady haters, is the one they try to avoid when talking about Tom Brady is Facts and Numbers. They only want to speak from the standpoint of opinions based on emotions.
In the end you just have to laugh at they're never ending misery and think
Real GOAT on to #8 (WHO KNOWS?
WHY TOM BRADY TB12 IS THE GOAT/BOAT OF ALL TIME! – EPISODE V
Let's talk TB12 GOAT/BOAT vs Joe Montana (Not counting the LAST 3 SEASONS with the BUCS!!)!
Brady led the NFL in TD passes in his first full season as a starter
In Tom Brady's 18 seasons as the starting quarterback for the Patriots, the Patriots had an average scoring offense ranking of 4.83 and an average scoring defense ranking of 7.11. the offense ranked in the top 10 in scoring 17 out of 18 times and the defense ranked in the top 10 in scoring 15 out of 18 times. The scoring offense had a better ranking than the scoring defense in 11 seasons and the scoring defense had a better ranking than the scoring offense in 6 seasons. On average, the offense was better than the defense in scoring.
In Tom Brady's 18 seasons as the starting quarterback for the Patriots, the Patriots had an average yards offense ranking of 8.11 and an average yards defense ranking of 16.56. the offense ranked in the top 10 in yards 12 out of 18 times and the defense ranked in the top 10 in yards 7 out of 18 times. The yards offense had a better ranking than the yards defense in 15 seasons and the yards defense had a better ranking than the yards offense in 3 seasons. On average, the offense was better than the defense in yards.
In Tom Brady's 18 seasons as the starting quarterback for the Patriots, the Patriots had an average efficiency offense ranking of 4.94 and an average efficiency defense ranking of 15.28. the offense ranked in the top 10 in efficiency 15 out of 18 times and the defense ranked in the top 10 in efficiency 5 out of 18 times. The efficiency offense had a better ranking than the efficiency defense in 16 seasons and the efficiency defense had a better ranking than the efficiency offense in 2 seasons. On average, the offense was better than the defense in efficiency.
Joe Montana's defense allowed 15.8 PPG in his 4 Super Bowls never giving up more than 21 points. Tom Brady's defense allowed 19.0 PPG in his 10 Super Bowls (18.4 PPG in his 7 Super Bowl victories) giving up more than 21 points 5 times.Thats an average of 3.2 fewer PPG allowed by Montana's defense in Super Bowls.
Joe Montana has never led the league in passing yards. Tom Brady has led the league in passing yards 5 times.
Joe Montana has led the league in passing touchdowns twice. Tom Brady has led the league in passing touchdowns 5 times (most in NFL history).
Without Joe Montana, the San Francisco 49ers have a record of 44-32-1 (57.1%) between 1979-1992. Without Tom Brady, the New England Patriots have a record of 18-19 (48.6%) between 2000-2019.
Even if you exclude the seasons before they became their team's primary starter (for whatever reason), the 49ers have a record of 42-18-1 (68.9%) without Joe Montana while the Patriots have a record of 15-9 (60.0%) without Tom Brady.
Joe Montana's largest playoff loss was by 46 points (49-3). Tom Brady's largest playoff loss was by 19 points (33-14)
During Joe Montana's playing career (1979-1994), there were 23 instances of quarterbacks throwing for 4,000+ yards in a season. Joe Montana threw for 4,000+ yards 0 times. During Tom Brady's playing career (2000-2020), there were 11 instances of quarterbacks throwing for 5,000+ yards in a season. Tom Brady has thrown for the 3rd most yards in a single season in NFL history with 5,235 passing yards
Joe Montana has 2 playoff games in which his team didn't score a single touchdown. Brady has never been in a playoff game in which his team failed to score a touchdown
The year Joe Montana threw 22 touchdown passes to Jerry Rice, he only threw 9 touchdown passes to the rest of his team. The year Tom Brady threw 23 touchdown passes to Randy Moss, he also threw 27 touchdown passes to the rest of his team
Joe Montana has won 71.3% (117-47) of his regular season games. Tom Brady has won 76.8% (230-69) of his regular season games
Joe Montana has won 69.6% (16-7) of his playoff games. Tom Brady has won 75.6% (34-11) of his playoff games
Joe Montana is a 2 time NFL MVP. Tom Brady is a 3 time NFL MVP (first unanimous MVP in history)
Joe Montana is a 3 time Super Bowl MVP. Tom Brady is a 5 time Super Bowl MVP (record)
Joe Montana is an 8 time Pro Bowler. Tom Brady is a 15 time Pro Bowler (tied for the record)
Joe Montana is a 13 time offensive player of the week winner. Tom Brady is a 32 time offensive player of the week winner (record)
Joe Montana never won a comeback player of the year award. Tom Brady did win a comeback player of the year award
Joe Montana has 2 seasons with losing records. Tom Brady has 0 seasons with losing records
Joe Montana was 0-3 in playoff games when his team gave up 28+ points. Tom Brady is 6-5 in playoff games when his team gives up 28+ points
Joe Montana went one and done in the playoffs 4 times in his 11 playoff appearances. Tom Brady went one and done 3 times in his 18 playoff appearances
The 49ers posted 6 STRAIGHT seasons winning 10+ games (1993-1998) and won a Super Bowl when Joe Montana left. The Patriots went 7-9 the very next season after going 12-4 the year before when Tom Brady left
Tom Brady best TD to INT ratio for a single season – 14/1
if your argument is that its harder to win or be great in NBA then log off. Brady played in snow storms, freezing temps.
He's played with a broken finger and dislocated shoulder. Brees played with broken ribs and look how the saints looked with that ONE GUY not at 100%.
There's levels to this. Brady is the most renowned QB to do more with less at the receiver position. Making no name receivers look like superstars.
You have 4 chances to beat Jordan in the playoffs. You only have one chance in the NFL. The QB is the captain of the ship and Brady turned a losing franchise into a champion in one year without training camp.
Tom Brady is the GOAT of all sports. He is a unicorn. Not only is he great but greatness follows him. He is the apex of the Mathew principal in professional sports.
WHY TOM BRADY TB12 IS THE GOAT/BOAT OF ALL TIME! – EPISODE VI
Tom Brady records – TB12 GOAT (2021 & 2022 Season Stats Not Included)
Crazy, just Crazy!
Regular Season Winning Records
Most games won by a quarterback: 230
Most games won with one team: 219
Most wins on the road by a quarterback: 104
Most wins at home by a quarterback: 126
Highest win percentage: 76.9%
Most division titles: 17
Most consecutive division titles: 11
Most consecutive winning seasons: 20
Most wins in a season: 16
Most wins in one stadium: 114
Most wins after trailing by 10+ points: 33
Most wins through first 200 starts: 155
Most wins in first 100 home starts: 87
Best record in home games: 126-24
Best record in away games: 104-47
Best record in games with 50 or more pass attempts: 19-9
Most wins in a regular season: 16
Most wins in December: 66
Most wins against a single opponent: 32
Most inter-conference wins: 59
Most wins by a 40+ year old quarterback in a single regular season: 13
Most decades with at least one 10+ win season: 3 (tied)
Most seasons played without a losing record: 21
Regular Season Statistical Records
Most passing touchdowns in a quarter: 5
Largest margin of victory in Super Bowl era: 59 points
Best touchdown-interception ratio in a season: 14:1
Only quarterback to have three consecutive games with 300+ passing yards, 3+ Touchdown-passes and 0 interceptions
Oldest quarterback to lead the league in passing yards: 40
Most passing touchdowns by a 40+ year old quarterback in a single regular season: 40
Most passing yards in a single season for a quarterback aged 40 and older: 4,633
Most career passing yards with one team: 74,571
Most career passing touchdowns with one team: 541
Most regular season passing touchdowns: 581
Most seasons as passing touchdowns leader: 4 (tied)
Most games with 4 or more touchdowns and no interceptions: 25
Most games with 3 or more touchdowns and no interceptions: 62
Most players thrown a touchdown pass to: 85
Most games started in which the quarterback's team scored 50+ points: 8
Most combined passing, rushing, and receiving touchdowns: 606
Regular Season Achievement Records
Oldest player to win NFL MVP: 40
Oldest position player to be named first-team All-Pro: 40
Most Pro Bowl Selections: 14 (tied)
Most seasons quarterbacking for one team: 20
Most player of the week awards: 31
First unanimous MVP in NFL history
Playoff Winning Records
Most games won by a starting quarterback: 34
Most consecutive wins by a starting quarterback: 10 (2001–2005)
Most consecutive wins to start a career by a starting quarterback: 10 (2001, 2003–2005)
Most career home wins by a starting quarterback: 20
Most career road wins by a starting quarterback: 7
Most consecutive home wins by a starting quarterback: 9 (2013–2019)
Most NFL conference championship wins by a starting quarterback: 10
Oldest Quarterback to win a conference championship game: 43 years, 174 days
Highest win percentage (Minimum 10 playoff starts): 75.6%
Most decades with at least 1 playoff win: 3
Most decades with at least 1 conference championship win: 3
Playoff Statistical Records
Most touchdown passes: 83
Most passing yards: 12,349
Most passing yards in a single playoff game: 505 (Super Bowl LII)
Most passes completed: 1,106
Most passes attempted: 1,764
Most 300+ passing yards games: 17
Most multi touchdown passing games: 27
Most three touchdown passing games: 13
Most touchdown passes in a single playoff game: 6 (tied)
Oldest quarterback to throw a touchdown pass in the playoffs: 43 years, 188 days old
Most combined passing, rushing, and receiving yards: 12,484
Most combined passing, rushing, and receiving touchdowns: 90
Playoff Achievement Records
Most games played: 45
Most games started: 45
Most division titles won by a starting quarterback: 17
Most NFL conference championship appearances by a starting quarterback: 14
Most game-winning drives: 14
Most 4th quarter comebacks: 9
Most decades with at least 1 conference championship game appearance: 3
Super Bowl Winning Records
Most wins as starting QB: 7
Most wins as a player: 7
Oldest QB to win a Super Bowl: 43 years, 6 months, 4 days
Only quarterback to win Super Bowls representing both conferences
Only quarterback to win Super Bowls in 3 different decades
Super Bowl Statistical Records
Most touchdown passes: 21
Most passing yards: 3,039
Most passes completed: 277
Most passes attempted: 421
Most passes completed in first half of a single Super Bowl: 20 (XLIX)
Most passes completed in a single Super Bowl: 43 (LI)
Most passes attempted in a single Super Bowl: 62 (LI)
Most passing yards in a single Super Bowl: 505 (LII)
Most passing attempts without an interception in a single Super Bowl: 48 (XLII & LII)
Most consecutive completions in a single Super Bowl: 16 (XLVI)
Super Bowl Achievement Records
Most Super Bowl appearances: 10
Oldest player to start a Super Bowl: 43 years, 6 months, 4 days
Oldest player to win a Super Bowl: 43 years, 6 months, 4 days
Oldest player to win Super Bowl MVP: 43 years, 6 months, 4 days
Most game-winning drives: 6
Most 4th quarter comebacks: 5
Most Super Bowl MVP awards: 5
Largest comeback in Super Bowl history: 25 points
Only quarterback to host Super Bowl: Super Bowl 55
Regular Season + Playoff Winning Records
Most games won by a starting quarterback: 264
Best record in home games: 146-28
Best record in road games: 111-49
Regular Season + Playoff Statistical Records
Most passing yards: 91,653
Most touchdown passes: 664
Most combined passing, rushing, and receiving yards: 93,796
Most combined passing, rushing, and receiving touchdowns: 696
Regular Season + Playoff Achievement Records
Most game-winning drives: 62
Most 4th quarter comebacks: 48
Only player to be named to the 1st team all decade for 2 different decades: 2000s and 2010s
Another records
Longest win streak by a quarter back (21)
Longest win streak in a single season (18)
Most post season runs with 10 TD pass/rush (2)
Won 2 championships in his 20s, 30s, and 40s
Only unanimous MVP
Oldest MVP.
So if Joe Montana is QB of the Patriots…………
Boo fucking hoo
Montana rules
Maybe he should have gone into ownership, coaching or management. Or left the niners earlier.
It's odd this story is coming out? TB12 has only shown love, respect and adoration for all players; past, or present. Tom is ETERNAL. We need to stop calling this man livestock. People like Jordan, Brady, Ali are in a different stratosphere. Brady literally played through so many era's. There will never be another…. not like this…. not like him! 💯🔥♾
Dan Patrick's argument in the 1st few seconds of the video punches a massive strike against his take that Lebron is his GOAT in the NBA.
NFL: Montana was the GOAT at 4-0 in superbowls and Brady flew by him with a 7-3 record in championships.
NBA: MJ is the GOAT and Lebron flew by him with a 4-6 record in championships ????!!!! That does NOT add up at all.
You need to win when it matters the most. TB did it. Montana did it. Lebron did not do it.
joe cool is the 80s football icon 4 me
Complete bullshit. Anything coming out of this guy's mouth right now needs to be non takin seriously.
He's on this mahomes boner
Some sportscaster from Kansas City 😅
Joe's got 4. Tom's got 7. What are we talking about?
Honestly, who even is this guy? Do es he even have a pay to play?
It's not that Tom won 7. He left New England ,went to Tampa and won a ring. When Joe went to Kansas City, he didn't win a Superbowl.
Montana is not affected at all, we all know who the GOAT is and it's NOT Tom Brady.
All but one of Brady's championships were from teams who were caught cheating. All of Montana's are legitimate.