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I had to search a while during a fitting last spring for irons with “normal” lofts. Ping Blueprints/i230 combo set, 33* 7 iron.
They need to make them stronger every year to back up their claims of "longer hitting irons".
It's a scam, always has been.
Despite manufacturers claiming they decrease lofts to compensate for the low and rear COG making the ball easier to launch the issue is that rear and low COG only gets you so far. Loft still matters and below about 24 to 25 degrees, or a 6 iron in many sets like this, the average sub 90 MPH iron swinger doesn't generate enough speed to use anything weaker than their 7 iron or maybe the 6. Sure, they might get the ball in the air but the gaps become compressed. As a few others here have mentioned in a strong lofted set such as this ad others like it the st makeup should really start at 6 iron and add an extra wedge rather than an extra club in the form of a 5 iron on the long end that most don't hit more a few yards farther than their 6 iron as the loft dips to around 21 or 22 degrees. So, yeah, if the 6 iron 24 or 25 degrees then the set should be 6 through GW and AW. At least get the set up to 50 degrees on the short end. A traditionally lofted 8 club set would typically get you 24 thru 52 degrees or a seven club set 24 thru 47 or 48 degrees. That allowed you the option to add a matching gap wedge or to use specialty gap and sand wedges while on the long end you could usually get a matching 21 degree iron if you could hit it or you could start your long end with a 7 wood or hybrid. I don't care what you call the club but at least give my a loft spread that doesn't force me into something too low to be useful and then I have to discard an iron I was forced to buy but don't want to or can't use. And don't force me to buy more than two additional wedges to get through sand wedge.
Numbers seem redundant now, may aswell just put loft on bottom
I don't really like the shinny chrome look because as an x-welder I get wield flash from the sun hitting the club at address. Then I can't see very well with that little dot in my vision. Think of getting a flash spot when having your picture taken with a camera flash bulb.
You can’t compare your 7 iron to the these 7 irons cause you hit them further. You should be comparing the spin rates on your clubs that go a similar distance
Typically Irons are measured and numbered by the spin rate they produce. That spin rate is way too low for a 7 Iron.
If you can get over the numbering issue… like your pitching wedge is actually a 9 iron and 7 iron is a 6 iron then they seem like good irons.
I'm sure these are solid high quality irons, look real good too,,,, but those five irons are coming off low in trajectory even with Rick's club head speed and delivery. Basically an old problematic 3 iron with a different number for casual/recreational golfers.
I have the old callaway razr x forged and the 7 is spec’d at 35* haha. These strong lofts are crazy.
Would love to see you review the PXG irons. Black Ops, Gen 6 0311s, and 0317s.
Send me the Kirkland irons from UK Rick
Soon we'll be able to make a whole bag out of 7 irons 😂
So what do you do; carry 5 wedges? I don’t get it.
The issue is with these strong lofts it just requires a 5th wedge and then it defeats the purpose of hitting it further because now the 7 iron is in the 6 iron position of the bag
Rick, please get your hands on some Avoda irons and give them a whirl!
Yes lofts are too strong. Bring back higher launching yet higher lofted clubs like the 718 T-mb. Spin, forgiveness, descent angle.
Golfers are lying to themselves if they pull out a 7 iron and think they hit their 7 iron 200 yards. You're lying to yourself, it's not a 7 iron.
Nothing but manufacturers running out of technology to make people think they are hitting the ball further. When you create lofts like this it creates a mess for your wedge spacing. I was a ping custom fitter for years and its funny to hear guys talk about launch angles and descent to justify these stronger lofts. Its a simple marketing technique to deceive consumers. Before the loft bumps they were also making iron shafts longer to generate more speed which isnt a good idea.
To keep it simple your spin rate should match the number iron on your club. 7 iron should be 7000rpm, 5 iron should 5000 rpm and so on. When you dont see those numbers you know they are messing around with lofts.
I feel like Rick hits his PW strange. How do you hit 7 195 carry and PW 140 in the same iron set? 55 yard difference but only two clubs in between