Claws and Effect podcast is back! Golf instructors Jon Tattersall and Ethan unveil the truth about hand movements in the golf swing. Learn how proper hand and wrist technique, combined with data-driven analysis, can dramatically improve your game. Tattersall debunks common myths, explains the importance of grip pressure, and shows how body sequencing generates power. Get expert insights on swing mechanics and discover why continuous learning is crucial for golfers at all
levels.
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Outline:
00:00
Introduction and Controversial Golf Instruction Topics
03:00
Jon Tattersall’s Background and Journey in Golf Instruction
05:00
Frustration with Misinformation on Social Media
08:11
The Importance of Hand and Wrist Movements
10:58
The Role of the Pivot and Lower Body Sequencing
15:03
The Controversy of the Cupped Lead Wrist
18:57
Applying Pressure to the Handle for Power and Control
22:04
The Need for a Technical and Data-Driven Approach
29:49
Understanding the Hands and Arms in the Golf Swing
33:39
Debunking Misconceptions: Grip Pressure and the Role of the Body
36:19
Applying Pressure to the Handle: Generating Power and Controlling the Clubface
41:27
The Importance of Club Head Pivoting Relative to the Handle
47:22
The Role of the Head in the Golf Swing
49:29
The Impact of Data and Social Media on Golf Instruction
12 Comments
Love the video. In fact, after watching this I watched a good blend of YouTube influencers and pga professionals all doing exactly what you gentleman are talking about. Very impressive stuff. 👍
Excellent segment! Keep the great content coming. The more we can geek out on the grip, the better. The cosmic slop of ‘golf coaches’ glazing over grip has gotten out of control. This channel captures the content in a functional manner that can be applied immediately. Thank you 🙏
Awesome vid and a great guest who tells it as it is.
guesswork that does not work.
120 years of theory proves its bad
I fixed it
Everybody is different- go find your own swing
Really enjoyed this video. I have a couple of thoughts. Tattersall mentions that if the club was to fall out of the Iron Byron machine the club would go way right, for a right hander. Most people if they try and throw a club down the fairway throw it way left. Most people who try hammer throw, right handed, for the first time miss way left. Being a heavy weight on the end of a stick is one of the main things that separates golf. None of hockey, tennis, baseball, cricket, squash, etc, will help someone play golf. I also like you're talk about pivoting the club around the grip and that it is a pull push. It needs to be emphasised that this is best done through the lead side. Imagine if you wanted to change directions in a shop aisle with a shopping trolley, i.e. transfer the trolley from your right side to your left side. You would drag the trolley to where the handle was opposite your left side and then spin it around, so you could keep pulling on the trolley handle as this is stronger. In golf it is also easier to keep pressure up the grip until the club clears your lead side. This is a human subtlety that the Iron Byron doesn't have. It's also why I think it is better to learn golf with a ball on a tee opposite the lead foot rather than on the ground opposite the middle of the feet.
I’ve been saying for 2-3 years that the internet instruction is terrible. I didn’t know the technical terms but I know what they were coaching was wrong
Great stuff mate 👍🏻
golf takes hand eye coordination coupled with a internal balance that you are born with and developed in youth. the ability to swing a club or raquet around the torso quickly is hard to maintain in a state of balanced momentum that golf requires. to learn that the club moves your body around and leads the force applied to the swing of the club is the key it's athleticism ie scotty sheffler swing proves this.
Rotation is not just opening and closing of the pelvis. The pelvis structure is more for stabilising the lower body to support the “engine” of the torso/shoulder complex and more angular velocity is generated by the thoracic spine rotation (which is more flexible component vs the hips) than the pelvis rotation (the pelvis rotate around 90 deg vs the thorax rotating between 90~120 deg). A more T-spine rotary driven swing is more consistent in minimising the closure rate of the Face and is more controllable and protective of the lower spine for longevity than the old school pedagogy of frontal plane swing.
31:58mm literally almost brings me to tears. That is my story. Absolute stand alone as a new golfer in 96-97. Broke 100 in 6mos. 90 inside my first year. Capable of bringing 3irons into greens from a wedges trajectory. Playing in the rain brought joy. My drivers pitch mark was usually their total drive. This was steel x100 43½" 6° head days. I git very good at golf without out really trying. Well I decided to try at pro. Fell in love with golf. I put in the blister sore hands time. Shutting the range down every night. I watched golf every weekend Along with buying every magazine I could. ½price books was my real friend. Well the story ends there. After putting all my trust into the guys on tour and on TV every Saturday. I intently listened and hung on every single "advice " the commentators spoke over the years. It destroyed my game. Annihilating my confidence along with it. Even stole what I thought was a sure deal. If no pga tour bare min I'd surely have it together for senior pga tour days.
Long story short. Commentators I now KNOW are wrong in theory most times. 😢 took me 25yrs and thousands of hours of studying golf swings to discover this. The real mind blowing moment was coming to the realization that what you were seeing on the biz hub slow mo was distorted and not a true representation of what the body does in a tour swing. I thought I was crazy. Fast forward to today. Everything I did as a natural talent and for power they are teaching today. TV swore up and down it was robbing me of the desired consistency in the 90's. The consistency I searched for to make q school.
You guys mentioned a "push pull?" Does that mean pulling with the left arm and pushing with the right arm? Thank you