Wait, where do you have to pay car fees per driver?
This some kind of joke i‘m to european to understand?
Thick_Squirrel6181
That’s wild. You just pay to rent the cart everywhere I’ve played (Europe)
skycake10
I’ve never played anywhere where the cart fee was anything but included in the cost for each player, but it’s also a pretty standard $6/9 holes almost everywhere. If these courses had non-separate cart fees they’d just double the cost and it wouldn’t change anything.
spiffyswenson
Then they’ll just pick one price and combine the two and we will still be unhappy
SailorPilot23
Where I play, it’s $x for the cart. If you have two players, you each pay 0.5x, as you’re suggesting. Makes sense to me.
jvogt1
Technically the full rental rate for the cart is 2x the individual rate. Years ago the courses would charge a single player double on the cart rental. Had to put up with that a few times as my buddies and I were always three.
feelin_cheesy
Be careful with this line of thinking. Next thing you know if there is not a second person in the cart, you’ll have to pay “double” to meet the standard rate if it was full.
saynotopain
Yes
AromaOfCoffee
If you’re ok with doubling the cart fee to accomplish this, then cool.
Otherwise you’re just asking for the course to receive less revenue on their already razor thin margin.
KlausSlade
Usually this is due to insurance policies. Often insurance requires a patron to have paid to be covered in case the cart crashes and someone gets injured.
mimeticpeptide
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DontGetTheShow
I think they charge both golfers just to simplify things. Obviously two players in one cart requires more driving and puts more wear and tear on the cart vs. one player. Obviously, it doesn’t cause 100% additional wear and tear but it’s not 0%. I’ve assumed that for the sake of simplicity, they just do one cart price. Because if there’s a threesome taking two carts then there’s people who are going to gripe and want to split the 2 carts 3 ways, etc. So this way they just have one cart price to ring up ( as opposed to one player and one cart or two players and one cart or three players and two carts). Then what happens if a single pops in last minute and now that prove they charged the threesome 20 min ago is too high and now you need to refund other golfers $5/each.
BeebsGaming
Even if they did that the cart fee would just double. Cart fees by me are commonly $15-25 per person so not that bad.
From my experience working at a course managed by a company with over 100 properties, these are policies held in place on a case-by-case basis. I’d say 20% of GMs make the call on their own. The rest are decided by an unholy amount of upper-management zoom meetings that involve corporate waxing on about profits/losses, revenue projection and cost benefit analysis. Every policy under the sun would be taken into consideration if it meant more money, and nothing really has a higher margin than carts, they were a money making scheme almost from the start. If you don’t like the club’s cart policy, chances are you aren’t their demographic and they couldn’t care less.
modnarydobemos
My local course charges $20 cart fee, but if you wanna ride by yourself it is $40. So by that logic, you don’t pay twice, but actually half of a cart fee per person. If your course doesn’t manage to fill up the cart, they take the “loss”.
But as others said, take it or walk. They can charge whatever they want, and no logical argument that will effectively make less revenue will make them change it.
tee2green
Join the push cart mafia
FnB8kd
I’ve never seen a double charge for a cart. Usually the cart fee is .5 of a cart when there are two players.
nogoodgopher
This is how you get a bunch of people demanding their own cart. Most courses don’t have enough carts for everyone to be a solo rider.
Zebracak3s
They do it so singles will get carts. People less willing to pay 56 for a cart vs 23.
Calichusetts
I started walking when it’s in the low 80s. Northeast summer has been pretty brutal. Me and my buddy talk about this nonsense all the time. Or how at some courses the cart fee is like 30-40% f the price. It’s just not worth it. I LOVE riding in a cart but as I’m starting to play a lot more it’s literally eating up the cost of future rounds.
Skyler_White
You do realize that running a golf course is extremely expensive right? If you can’t afford a measly $50 cart fee then you should probably find a more affordable hobby like basketball. And here’s the best part, people who share the same sentiment as OP have no problem spending $400 on a new Scotty Cameron, $3k on a new set of clubs and $20 for a sleeve of Pro V1s.
Grouchy_Ad4064
I started walking last year because I couldn’t give these courses that don’t know how to maintain a course $22 for a cart anymore. Robbery.
watter21
Who the hell pays double for a cart? That’s ridiculous.
cheamo
This is so dumb, all courses that do this it’s just half the price of the cart for each player. It’s a courtesy to singletons who then only pay half price for the cart. Plenty of courses do have a single charge for the cart, which gets split if there’s 2 riders.
JPeterson50
I shouldn’t have to pay a greens fee if I never hit the green.
AverageGrasshole
You pay to ride. Not to drive. Gtfoh wasting 18 holes worth of fuel. I could use all those wasted funds for items to help benefit the course.
Golf-Guns
This isn’t that hard. You’re paying for half a cart per golfer. Doesn’t matter if it’s 1 or 2 people. The alternative is stupid. The person stuck riding as a single would pay more not the group of 2 paying less.
I’m coming from the perspective of someone who plays a lot of golf and it’s not uncommon to play as a single. If you’re out here struggling to break 100 and won’t play without you’re buddy who also sucks I get your perspective changes.
Redschallenge
I think it should be 1.5 cost because it’s still going to more shots. But double is nonsense
ropeseed420
Are you ridding in a cart? Yes, you are.Just because you aren’t driving, doesn’t take away the fact that you are not walking. You are paying for a service, not the cart.
Wisdomlost
My local course has a flat fee for everyone if your sharing or not. If you want to use a cart then it’s 7$ for 9 or 10$ for 18. I mean everyone. If you own your own cart and bring it to the course they will still charge you a cart fee.
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Simple solution is to walk the course
Wait, where do you have to pay car fees per driver?
This some kind of joke i‘m to european to understand?
That’s wild. You just pay to rent the cart everywhere I’ve played (Europe)
I’ve never played anywhere where the cart fee was anything but included in the cost for each player, but it’s also a pretty standard $6/9 holes almost everywhere. If these courses had non-separate cart fees they’d just double the cost and it wouldn’t change anything.
Then they’ll just pick one price and combine the two and we will still be unhappy
Where I play, it’s $x for the cart. If you have two players, you each pay 0.5x, as you’re suggesting. Makes sense to me.
Technically the full rental rate for the cart is 2x the individual rate. Years ago the courses would charge a single player double on the cart rental. Had to put up with that a few times as my buddies and I were always three.
Be careful with this line of thinking. Next thing you know if there is not a second person in the cart, you’ll have to pay “double” to meet the standard rate if it was full.
Yes
If you’re ok with doubling the cart fee to accomplish this, then cool.
Otherwise you’re just asking for the course to receive less revenue on their already razor thin margin.
Usually this is due to insurance policies. Often insurance requires a patron to have paid to be covered in case the cart crashes and someone gets injured.
Pushcart mafia loves this post
I think they charge both golfers just to simplify things. Obviously two players in one cart requires more driving and puts more wear and tear on the cart vs. one player. Obviously, it doesn’t cause 100% additional wear and tear but it’s not 0%. I’ve assumed that for the sake of simplicity, they just do one cart price. Because if there’s a threesome taking two carts then there’s people who are going to gripe and want to split the 2 carts 3 ways, etc. So this way they just have one cart price to ring up ( as opposed to one player and one cart or two players and one cart or three players and two carts). Then what happens if a single pops in last minute and now that prove they charged the threesome 20 min ago is too high and now you need to refund other golfers $5/each.
Even if they did that the cart fee would just double. Cart fees by me are commonly $15-25 per person so not that bad.
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From my experience working at a course managed by a company with over 100 properties, these are policies held in place on a case-by-case basis. I’d say 20% of GMs make the call on their own. The rest are decided by an unholy amount of upper-management zoom meetings that involve corporate waxing on about profits/losses, revenue projection and cost benefit analysis. Every policy under the sun would be taken into consideration if it meant more money, and nothing really has a higher margin than carts, they were a money making scheme almost from the start. If you don’t like the club’s cart policy, chances are you aren’t their demographic and they couldn’t care less.
My local course charges $20 cart fee, but if you wanna ride by yourself it is $40. So by that logic, you don’t pay twice, but actually half of a cart fee per person. If your course doesn’t manage to fill up the cart, they take the “loss”.
But as others said, take it or walk. They can charge whatever they want, and no logical argument that will effectively make less revenue will make them change it.
Join the push cart mafia
I’ve never seen a double charge for a cart. Usually the cart fee is .5 of a cart when there are two players.
This is how you get a bunch of people demanding their own cart. Most courses don’t have enough carts for everyone to be a solo rider.
They do it so singles will get carts. People less willing to pay 56 for a cart vs 23.
I started walking when it’s in the low 80s. Northeast summer has been pretty brutal. Me and my buddy talk about this nonsense all the time. Or how at some courses the cart fee is like 30-40% f the price. It’s just not worth it. I LOVE riding in a cart but as I’m starting to play a lot more it’s literally eating up the cost of future rounds.
You do realize that running a golf course is extremely expensive right? If you can’t afford a measly $50 cart fee then you should probably find a more affordable hobby like basketball. And here’s the best part, people who share the same sentiment as OP have no problem spending $400 on a new Scotty Cameron, $3k on a new set of clubs and $20 for a sleeve of Pro V1s.
I started walking last year because I couldn’t give these courses that don’t know how to maintain a course $22 for a cart anymore. Robbery.
Who the hell pays double for a cart? That’s ridiculous.
This is so dumb, all courses that do this it’s just half the price of the cart for each player. It’s a courtesy to singletons who then only pay half price for the cart. Plenty of courses do have a single charge for the cart, which gets split if there’s 2 riders.
I shouldn’t have to pay a greens fee if I never hit the green.
You pay to ride. Not to drive. Gtfoh wasting 18 holes worth of fuel. I could use all those wasted funds for items to help benefit the course.
This isn’t that hard. You’re paying for half a cart per golfer. Doesn’t matter if it’s 1 or 2 people. The alternative is stupid. The person stuck riding as a single would pay more not the group of 2 paying less.
I’m coming from the perspective of someone who plays a lot of golf and it’s not uncommon to play as a single. If you’re out here struggling to break 100 and won’t play without you’re buddy who also sucks I get your perspective changes.
I think it should be 1.5 cost because it’s still going to more shots. But double is nonsense
Are you ridding in a cart?
Yes, you are.Just because you aren’t driving, doesn’t take away the fact that you are not walking. You are paying for a service, not the cart.
My local course has a flat fee for everyone if your sharing or not. If you want to use a cart then it’s 7$ for 9 or 10$ for 18. I mean everyone. If you own your own cart and bring it to the course they will still charge you a cart fee.