HOLY GRAIL of Lost Courses is Back | Adventures in Golf Season 7
It started as an epic Long Island golf course built in the 1910s that was so far beyond its time. By the 1940s, it was gone, but never forgotten. Many consider the Lido to be the holy grail of lost courses. After hearing what it took to bring it back, Erik Anders Lang knew he had to travel to its new soon-to-be home in Wisconsin to see the course and meet the people responsible for resurrecting it on this Adventures in Golf, presented by United Airlines.
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So Lido was the greatest course you'll never play, now the Lido is still a course I'll never play. 😂 private courses suck
I had the good fortune to see Pete Flory's magic behind the scenes when this was still a dream…incredible to see Tom Doak and the Keiser Team bring it to life! Fantastic episode.
Booked for 2024. LFG!
Playing it in August!
Someone should have told that dude to spit his gum out before the interview. It was so distracting 😂
It's a shame they cut down so much forest for this course.
This is awesome… Sad it's private only
What an amazing story and course that I will unfortunately probably never be able to play.
How can you not be romantic about golf after a story like that? Amazing 😊
Thought that third dude was Paul Ryan
Am I missing it, why isn’t Peter listed on The Lido website?
Great story, but when will America understand that golf courses should be open to the public. Most, if not all, great courses in the UK and Europe can be played for a green fee. Open up GOLF!
"Private course with limited access for guests"
Of course. Golf in the United States continuing its trend of being exclusionary for all but the ultra rich…
The architects of the Golden era were so imaginative, but what is often missed about them is the sensuality of their designs. I have played and been a member at Yale Golf Course for nearly 50 years and I am reporting on the renovation of it by Gil Hanse for Golfer's journal. The renovation is about to get underway The thing most people don't realize about Macdonald courses is that they have a feminine or romantic side which is at the core of the difference between his courses and say Tillighast,'s whose work exudes masculinity . Macdonald designs can be penal as Yale has been (sometimes due to what was poor maintanance) but it was seductively penal in two ways: making you feel that the rational strategic play is the right one but you are vulnerable if you follow it more often than not to disasterous consequences; and other times the seduction is too attractive to let pass again making you vulnerable. And this seduction is a challenge to rational course management and it plays out across his designs. Not all of his designs provide great golf courses or great golf expereiences. His own view of Yale was that it was the greatest inland golf course in the world, and we shall see after a 25million dollar renovation if that is true. But whether it is the greatest inland golf course or not, it will be the most seductive; and never brutish, and always giving the golfer ample ways to play it and seduces the golfer into pursuing the possibility of an extraordinary moment that rarely materializes. There are lots of ways to be rewarded and also to be brought to one's knees and that is the genius of the feminine allure that is altogether missing in the Tillighast decisions Bethpage Black was our college's home course more often than not. it was beautiful but always a battle with battle lines very clearly drawn. I have played nearly all Macdonald courses but Lido and can''t wait to sign up for a spring 2024 outing. I play the NGLA many times and to this point it is in my experience the most personally expressive of his courses, not because the setting calls for it, but because he infuses the setting with the feeling that baseball players feel after games when they go hitless and describe their day as a comfortable 0-4. You don't feel defeated by a Macdonald course; you don't feel tricked. You feel blessed but baffled as to how it all went so wrong. No one I know who has played Shinnecock, Pine Valley, Quaker Ridge or Winged Foot, has, in my experience left feeling bewildered by how they played so poorly. to me Mackenzie splits the difference. His course capture the imagination and presents itself more as work of art than either Tillinghast or Macdonald; the former is setting up a battlefield, the latter a mystery with lots of doors you can open and paths you can pursue, giving you so much more opportunity to learn about yourself over many dimensions. It is not the fidelity to the holes that will tell whether the Lido presents the Macdonald intention and architectural genius; it is the feeling the golfer — especially the thoughtful yet spiritual golfer — will have of him or herself after playing it. I will report back when I do. I've played Yale nearly 1 thousand times, in competition and with friends and family, and I learn something more about myself nearly every time I play it. Same with National though I have played it less often. Those are the truly great Macdonald courses in the US I know best, though I profess a flirtatious relationship with Piping Rock. What makes them great is not the awe or power they convey or inspire, but the insight into yourself they provide. Seduced and abandoned — at least to the next time you play. I know no one who has ever been bored by either. I am anxious to see the personal response the Lido project creates in those who play it.
So which one of you carded the first course record?
Wow
Awesome but why Wisconsin? 😳 Should be off the ocean and no cutting of the forest needed.
Great segment
Offputting personalities for such an exciting project. Zero charisma and prententious.
I caddy at this course it’s absolutely gorgeous, except for the 15-16 green and tee box. They are right next to each other, making it a dangerous place to be if there are inexperienced golfers 😂
From a greenkeepers perspective, that thumbnail picture is a beautiful nightmare
Is a course for the elitist, different country same story
private of course. why even post the video?
Fascinating – thanks.
This is my hope for the future of design. To be able to use these online programs as a designer to make the course exactly how you want to, be able to play test it and present it to the boards in a visual way before construction. Being able to take the lidar info from the game and apply it to GPS's so we can properly build the course is the next step. Coming from someone who has used the program he build this on there is so much potential for something great here, it just needs to be streamlined.
Spectacular episode. As good as the course and the project demanded. Well done, team!!
The scorecard reads 76.5 154. She is a brute.
So tired of things being private..
Audible at lunch yet there 45 minutes early of them. Lol
The irony of The Lido having been called "The greatest course you'll never play", and now that it has been rebuilt and made private, might make it still the greatest course I will never play 😂
@skratch it is well known that what identified & made The Lido so unique and special was that for its time and many decades thereafter it was known to be the only track set between a bay ( or peninsula ) and an ocean. Theming the course as one with multi variable wind speeds and directions. Along with how the bodies of water pull the ball in a certain direction. I just don’t see, or can understand, how the new track can truly replicate the wind conditions which was probably one of, if not, the main themes of The Lido.
I know what I’m about to ask is something not easy in 2024 but why didn’t the designers, and builders seek land that sat between 2 bodies of water and instead put it somewhere in the middle of no bodies of water in a state that you could mention is not really anywhere to honor the course and where it was built.
This guys is the Scottie Scheffler of financial consultants.
Amazing.
Three letter agencies every where
What a tremendous video and story. Thank you
Still the best golf page on YT imo because of content like this
Was Peter playing this olde course with hickory shafts?