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Which stupid Golf Rules should be changed?



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to answer your hard-hitting question earlier this week guy on the podcast would I swap lives right now with Tiger Woods I’ve thought long and hard about this really long and hard thought about all the pros all the cons I spoke to my wife spoke to my family she like do it and and I think we’re going to do it I think we’re going to swap um yeah it was a great question by the way to end the last podcast no problem that was from Ryan Tucker I don’t think I actually gave him the credit he was deserved but thank you Ryan Tucker for your question well welcome everyone on to The Clubhouse episode this is normally only Audio Only We are testing this is like a prototype episode we are going to film it this week so you’ll also hear from mean guy you’ll also hear from Matt Ed or Ben whoever’s on the on see them though that’s the only problem oh well that I quite like the mystery okay so Matt’s on the ones and twos over there we might have to get a camera on one point say hi Matt hello the only Annoying Thing is Norm this one naked and to actually put clothes back on again for it it’s a bit of an inconvenience well no one can see what’s happening below the desk got pants on obviously we’ve never we’ve never done a podcast still naked behind the can see little treat every now and again that’s his microphone um but for those who might be first time here then because that’s the thing this is normally a very kind of Friday Audio Only it’s in the um podcast provide it just pops up out the blue B it’s a Friday a little treat get you ready for the weekend right the 105 minutes we don’t talk about a lot of golf what we do in bits bits and it’s a bit more it’s a bit more unscripted yeah not that the podcast is scripted as people will know it’s definitely not scripted there might be some new people who find this that on YouTube who go okay I’ve never seen that before never heard that before didn’t know you a Friday treat well there it is um the main kind of structure of these shows is we have a number of questions off our Facebook group Rick so I’ve got many many questions here um and I would like to fire some at you so if you can deal with that then I will do that I like it and also in the Clubhouse episode we’re going to tell some fun stories in the world of golf I’ve been doing a little bit of research we might not have any this week but next week absolute cracker stories such as um a guy in the US Open recently had two Hing ones back to back which is mind-blowing um didn’t you have two PS back to back once no no it wasn’t me was Matt was M wasn’t wasn’t me mate though right what other question got Carl Williams has said do you think that three off the te is too much of a punishment should you be able to drop where the ball has was lost or just go from the te again it seems three off the te is too high of a punishment you know what I I absolutely totally agree so you go for two off the two re go again 100% a penalty yeah I tot to 100% could not agree anymore and I think you could do either either you could do two off the tea or three from where you want to drop from well then where’ you draw the line literally cuz that could be on the green no as in where you think the ball went out of bounds or got lost I think two off the two would be great I think I do there still is a penalty I know think about simple terms now we’re on a par four I know give it a great t- shot I block out of bounds and then hit a good one as my provisional second shot I’m now next to you you’re hitting your second I’m hitting with third so I’m still at a disadvantage cuz I feel like a water hazard isn’t is a fair penalty yeah it’s a one shot penalty and off you off you go but I feel like off the te there’s been no Advantage gained you’re hitting from exactly the same spot and you’re now hitting your third yeah how do we how do we get this past we just play our own rules moving forward I want three rules passing okay three new rules that that maybe the judge try and sell it to me I’m work for the hi uh guy thanks for having this meeting with me sir guy to you thank you I know that’s the guy the the new DP World chair called guy anyway there’s the there is actually a new guy for the RNA but not a called guy he’s a new guy at the RNA anyway hi hi thanks for having me into the uh Royal ancient Clubhouse no problem by the way just to get this character in place I’m not going to be an old and stuffy I’m going to be the young guy quite yeah that’s why I’m going I’m going to be the new person who’s joined for this I’m quite cool backwards hi hi bro hey dude nice to see you what good red Ren is that offensive no I don’t think so um we’ll soon see listen I’ve been thinking and I know gol’s been around for a while right few hundred years yeah stuffy old fashioned we’re trying to change out the RNA Rick well that’s great to hear because I’ve got three suggestions that I think is going to modernize the game yeah bring it into the New upand cominging fast-paced World everyone lives in that’s music to my ears Rick I hope we’re ryed on these things we want to work with you you know you’re a great Creator we see ourselves moving in a more Dynamic and useful environment so please any tips that you’ve got we would love to listen to great by the way do you want an Earl great te uh yeah okay we’re all vegan now the RNA AG do you want to try some vegan coolas whatever that is I mean okay cool hip new chairman of the RNA yeah rule number one do you want some weed sorry too far if this is getting this going on YouTube you need to uh need to geted um number one okay you’re established golfer I presume you’re incredibly good at golf I play off 24 right now getting more American as this conversation goes on I bet you love playing on a Sunday afternoon with a little pencil bag and just just take maybe even taking your dog out there for a walk hey Rick I love nothing more than putting on my pencil bag of playing a few holes in the links picture this okay new cool hip guy from the RNA you’ve just hit your I don’t like to identify as cool I like to identify as mod you just hit a wonderful t- shot down the 18th hole okay you’re on for a record breaking score you can’t wait to tell all your mates at the RNA that you are now you’ve just broke n for the first time okay and you bomb one down the last hole okay and you walk down there and you’re hopping and you’re skipping you’re like this is the best day ever you know what all I’ve got to do here is hit the green two put and I am I am done in fact could hit the green three put it doesn’t matter okay and you walk up there and you’re like my ball is Right absolutely smack bang in the middle of the Fairway it could not be any more perfect and as you get a bit closer you’re thinking hold on a minute that lie doesn’t look as good as it should be yeah I’m getting up there and I’m expecting a perfect Li here in the middle of the Fairway I’m feeling you man got me the feels and you get there and your golf ball is in another man’s or woman’s or whoever’s playing this wonderful game that we now all own y old div oh man9 Tiger Woods that’s such a douche and that happens brother you’d like to think you you why your eyes closing why you cling like that cuz I’m just getting really chilled out in the vibe there been a lot of persona changes since you started this yeah cuz that’s my vibe I don’t like to be one way I like to just be how I am X and fluid wow right okay so I’ll go back to be more serious so you finished you finished in the bun in the divot yeah okay yeah and now what how you play a shot you’re going to thin it through the back of the 18th green you might be injuring a pedestrian you might chunk get five yards in front of you I for someone who’s played golf for pretty much all of my life think that’s unfair and I think it should be changed where you should be able to get a free drop from a divver in the Fairway do you agree can we get this can we get this passed as a new rule Rick I totally agree with you with what you’re saying and there’s nothing more annoying than your golf ball getting placed in a divot and it potentially ruined the best round of golf of your life so I do hear you the problem I’ve got is an RNA we have to think of the game and people trying to bend the rules in their favor the issue of’ got is how Define how do we Define what is an old divit or not we’re playing on the golf links you know this is some of the oldest ground in the country in Scotland there’s going to be natural bits of turf that are underlying that aren’t great aren’t ideal our green Keepers do a great job how do we actually stop people saying that every shot they’ve got is in a divot just therefore prefer the LIE I’d also like to question that saying well it’s the same way as people agree that the animal scrapings or there’s animal droppings cuz it’s total fast so it needs to be a sensible way that everyone your group has decided that if that is in an old dier you can take relief have a quick think about it f Mt should we let him do it or not I’m I’m in agreement I get rid of the rule yeah it’s it’s gone it’s out so we can we can free drop from the div free drop forever you want from knee Height please love it yeah okay that’s another one then I’m going to throw four three wishes the KN the knee height drop it’s staying it’s awful I I feel like such a a little puny is that why you’ve done it because it feels like it’s not it’s not very like empowering like a drop from the shoulder like tin up in the in the film and he’s dropping it from his shoulder it’s it’s a point of statement he’s dropping it he’s like I am not happy with this my arm is outstretched and I’m going to drop it like a real empowered Golf and I want to drop it and then this knee height thing where you got to bend down and you don’t know if you should bend your knee or have your knee straight and you drop it and sometimes it’s way too close to your foot it could hit your foot I hear you Rick but you know at the RNA we’re really inclusive and we find from some feedback from our older players they have issues of mobility and they can’t put the arm up that high and drop the golf ball so we going to make as easy as possible for them so it’s KN so they can bend down can they no they just have to go down a little bit you get that weird awkward stance don’t you where you kind of like semi bending your knees like is this worst knee drop is the worst you get a more of an actual penalty if you drop it though from your shoulder cuz some people but I don’t that’s what I mean some people kind of like place it so delicately it’s like you might as well have just pick and place it and put it down I tell you what then I’ll make you a deal go on not dropping from the shoulder but as Matt said you’re allowed to place it well no cuz that’s we’re going to get a great lie and you’ve already got a penalty yeah you should be allowed to take your penalty and move on look I don’t make the rules I just enforce them you are making the rules but you’ve had one that one’s not having that one we’ll call it we’ll shake hands on that let see your next one you said you had three so you’ve had one what was my next one look I’m a busy guy here I’ve got I’ve I’ve got one no this was the whole reason why I watched this chat yeah well sorry Rick I’ve got meeting at 3 o’ with um shots off the te it shouldn’t be three the whole point of this conversation um I don’t believe I think uh if you hit it out of bounds off the te you should be able to play your second shot from the te not your third look I it’s speed up play people enjoy um because people wouldn’t be looking for balls long as long okay cuz for me if I hit one and I’m like I’m not sure if that’s out of bounds you know what I’ll hit a provisional and I’m going to look for three minutes for that golf ball if it was only a retake I’d go oh guys that’s lost I’m just going to whack another one down there it’s it’s only another shot okay Rick I hear you do you agree with me that golf equipment’s getting better and better last number of years last 10 15 years the average scores would say otherwise yeah okay whatever we know that golf club is getting better we have to protect our golf courses the golf course is getting longer and longer and longer we agree on on the tour level Golf Course getting longer so we have to protect our golf courses if the penalty out of bounds was reduced there’ be more aggressive shots potentially getting played going for greens that may be covered by out of bounds which could oh God potentially make the golf game more exciting for people look I want golf to be boring it’s my job here um imagine the television viewings if people were going for greens and and actually the only downside was it they had to another go at it it Charmed me we’ve got it you’re in you can have it you get people making really sort of dramatic pars they gone two off the tea they’re in the middle of the Fairway like nearly on the green can you do something to me then rck and Matt you know you got this podcast thing going on I’m here at the busy doing a real job if you’re going to continue to do this podcast and make it somewhat successful can you make it a bit more serious and betray the in a positive light please that’s all I ask of you done yeah thank you we’ll speak to uh we’ll speak to the co-host yeah when he’s back when stupid idiot when he’s back when he’s back at the table we’ll ask him when he’s put some pants on see you later then see you uh cool dude sorry I’m back what missed with the toilet anything happened nothing mate we just had a very interesting chat with the main guy from the RNA new server dude that kind of weird guy Brett he calls himself flipflops on in the RNA Clubhouse it was crazy not a fan of you though not a fan of you not a fan of you at all stupid anyway we’ve managed to change some rules was there another one you wanted to say Matt yeah it was similar to the two off the tea so again speeding up play if you’re you know out in a normal Saturday comp whatever you clearly hit one out of bounds and you all see it go out of bounds or wherever and you s oh lost ball walk down to where it’s gone out take the drop from there two Club lengths from the thing you all agree yeah drop there move on I do agree with that I think it’s so silly sometimes I did one isn’t that a local room or some places yeah but I think it should be a proper rule because there’s so many times you see people walking back to the tea like myself another reason to have two off the tea people walking back I’m still not like I’m not couch anymore on me again go well thanks everyone for listening to The Clubhouse episode hopefully you enjoyed our wacky conversation so crazy you get exp more of that make sure you like And subscribe leave your comments down below what rule would you change in the world of golf um and maybe do a top three just for fun you’re know r that Bloody chains you YouTubers walking around Golf Course taking 7 hours to do a gol Vlogs and vogs and I want to play golf I’m a member and got that Rick Rick Finch and Peter Shields vlogging and taking ages and I I just want to play and it don’t let you through and then I just don’t like it what is it we got another podcast this week as well I know I listen to every week one yeah EDD I thought the other two were actually quite nice about it’s great I lik EDD I was going to reply to them on Twitter but I didn’t cuz I do listen to the podcast every week and and Eddie basically said that your round of golf was depressing um what’s more depressing Eddie is your bloody golf well yeah that’s all I was going to say your miserable sod he’s is and he’ll probably hear this so I I do like Eddie I love Andrew I don’t I don’t like Eddie at all massive beef with Eddie yeah yeah if you want it 10 shot challenge you want 10 shot challenge enough sorry but you’ve got to be making cuts for that I think he made a cut this week actually just f i do always keep a track on how he’s doing um bit spicy now might not need 10 shots Eddie Hey listen well you know it’s I didn’t agree with a lot realistically I don’t mind him slagging slagging me off for playing crap I get that but this idea that it’s not helping grow the game or not getting people inspired I thought was a bit of a weird I think sometimes saying that in J I think when you’re in your own lane it’s hard to sometimes look at things outside that and they’re obviously they’ve kind of joked a few times because again I listen every week to their podcast about how they got Spice anymore got the spice up the titles and stuff to get views and they often refer to to you and to us of of doing that but it’s kind of like you got to play the game a little bit Haven you you could make amazing podcasts if they’re not packaged up in a sexy way nobody’s going to listen um anyway Eddie we got beef now mate we have got beef beef Johnson you don’t want this beef you don’t want this heat guys thanks for listening hopefully you enjoyed the Club House episode and we’ll see you all soon bye

34 Comments

  1. I have always found the "lost golf ball" penalty for ammeture and lower level golf unfair. The professionals literally have people (and some times cameras) all the way down the hole to help them locate their wayward ball. If you can't find a ball, there should be no stroke penalty for a lost ball for everyone short of the pros.

  2. 100% on board with the drop from a divot. No different than being able to tap down spike marks. You should not be penalized for actions of another golfer.

  3. Sorry chaps i dont agree with 2 off the tee, It would end up like tennis( second service) with players trying to hit bombs on fairways they shouldn't, with no real penalty. A rule i'd love to see changed, is that if your ball ends up in a bunker in a foot print you should be able to rake and the replace the ball to the original spot, We shouldn't be punished for other player's lack of respect,,,,

  4. The "play as it lies" from a divot in the fairway IMO. Getting penalized for hitting the fairway(in my case, super rare), doesn't make sense.

  5. First thing I thought of was 2 off the tee, on a lost ball. Didn't think it would be in your list of 3, but it's great that it is.

  6. My question for the podcast: As a lefty golfer, I often have to "translate" golf instruction videos. "Make sure your right arm does X…" or "When on a downhill lie, the ball will go right…" and when I practice, I have to remember to reverse everything. It's complicated. Are there tips and tricks I can learn to help me translate more easily?

  7. I haven’t listened yet but 100% free relief from a divot. It’s an immovable obstruction that affects the lie. Drop no closer to the hole.

  8. In my mind, to be consistent, a ball which is out of bounds is unplayable, so they should be penalised similarly (in effect a 1 stroke penalty), which would mean taking 2 off the tee.

    Drop from a divot makes sense, as golf should be influenced by the course, not from someone who doesn't know decent etiquette. Footprints in bunkers are another one.

  9. There needs to be an amendment to the rules of golf that have a few exceptions for amateur golfers 🏌️‍♂️only….
    -free drop out of a fairway divot for amateur golfers only.
    -free lift and place in a sand trap if you land in an unraked footprint .
    -players should be allowed to use the slope setting on their laser to improve speed of play at tournaments.

  10. Good idea with the just 1 shot penalty for OB, but that would have to be brought into balance with other now 2 shot penalties

  11. Great to see you giving Eddie Pepp some stick. He's my favourite pro but he's so out of touch it's ridiculous. You could give him 10 shots atm the way he's playing tbf

  12. Divot in the Farway, I would not free drop it. Just a simple Roll back of the ball out of divot no closer to the whole. maybe within 3
    ", Similar to what pros do on the driving ranges. i also agree with the lost ball off the tee.. Just put another ball and hit it for 2 not 3. only 3 if you decide to drop from the "Supposed" entry point.

  13. Are you guys now changing to video included? I'm guessing you saw the popularity of it last week? In the start the clubhouse were to be just audio-only.
    I agree with everyone on the divot drop.

  14. Imagine a 20 handicap playing by the rules. Going back to the tee for lost balls. Imagine how long that would take. And taking a full 3 minutes to look for balls. Rounds would be 6 hours plus. No one is doing that now and it takes 5 hours at times. I can understand it for tournament play, but not casual rounds for the average amateur. They don't do it now. They don't rightly care about that anyway. They just want to have fun golfing. 2 off the tee, or 2 club length drop is fine by me. Most are already doing it that way.

  15. I think broadly speaking there’s room for a professional rule set and an amateur rule set in the sport. That said, IMO anyone playing is free to follow or ignore rules to their hearts content. I personally pick my ball up from divots and move them out and will drop a new ball in the suck roughly where mine went missing just to avoid spending a bunch of time searching for it.

  16. Amazing video, you work for 40yrs to have $1M in your retirement, meanwhile some people are putting just $10K into trading from just few months ago and now they are multimillionaires

  17. The problem is that 2 off the tee would be the same rule for professional golfers, and would mean that hazards and out of bounds would not provide the same deterrent.

  18. Rule ( beyond radical, don’t laugh, don’t insult me…..a thought…) : tee up EVERY shot from the fairway. Yup, I know, not real golf. But!,,,,speeds up play because you hit better shots, you hit BETTER shots, you save the grounds and no where neat the wear and tear on the course, more enjoyable for the golfer. Guaranteed we would get those results. (Also guaranteed, it’s not happening).

  19. As an American hippie named "Brent", close to Brett I am SUPER offended. Like so so so super offended. You didn't even mention your yoga schedule getting in the way of things. Or how you have to go to the farmers market before they close at 12:15pm. Or how you need to change your kefier quickly. Or how much kombucha on tap you have.
    What a disgrace Guy. You fell short. Make it up bruh. The main hippie is watching.

  20. Sorry boys, but these rules make no sense. Guy hit the divot argument on the head. Imagine calling a rules official every third tee shot to try and get a better lie? Or you have to call your playing partners over? What a waste of time. People think just because you hit the fairway your entitled to a perfect shot, which is silly. What about divots in the rough? Surely you’re being penalized for the actions of another golfer, but you can’t take a drop because it’s a different part of the course? Theres no argument that makes sense. 2 off the tee also makes no sense. First, it won’t speed anything up. You’ll still hit a provisional and look for your first ball because every stroke counts. Second, you NEED a penalty for removing your ball from a hazard or OB. That’s the whole point. One for taking it out of the hazard, and then you hit your next shot. I’d make it so you don’t have to take stroke and distance for OB. Just play it like a lateral hazard.

  21. Completely disagree.

    The OB is specifically penal to make the player change their approach and protect other people (internal OB is usually for safety reasons).

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