2024 NHL DRAFT LIVE STREAM – DETROIT RED WINGS & FULL NHL 1ST ROUND PICKS – Winged Wheel Podcast

Tune in to the Winged Wheel Podcast’s annual NHL Draft live stream! Join the hosts as we watch the 2024 NHL Draft unfold, and see our live reactions to Steve Yzerman’s pick for the Detroit Red Wings at 15th overall (unless there’s a trade 👀), takes, analysis, fan discussion, giveaways, and more!

Who will the Detroit Red Wings draft at 15th overall? Will Steve Yzerman have any surprises in store – a trade for a forward like Necas, goalie like Gibson, or others? Will they land Cole Eiserman or Michael Brandsegg-Nygard, or even Berkly Catton, Tij Iginla, Michael Hage, Beckett Sennecke, or others? Will any future picks or current Red Wings picks be traded? Let us know what prospects you hope end up in the Winged Wheel!

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don’t say the line guys don’t say the line I can see you don’t even know the bit all right are you ready to go are you ready to go I confiscated I’m not Evan’s sourer Keys Evan our favorite thing to do on the show is this live stream and my least favorite thing to do on the show is figure out just how late Evan’s going to be this year every year and my second least favorite thing to do is try to stop the Evan mukbang now my mouth hurts from all the sourer keys you’re a child Katherine deserves a Nobel Prize you understand that right oh no she does not yes she does how’s it going everyone we have how many people in here already already a couple hundred people in here welcome to the winged wheel podcast 2024 NHL draft live stream we’re going to be doing the intro a few times because as you can tell we’re just starting this out and you know what I think this is probably the bravest thing that we do CU When We record the show sometimes people are like hey what would you ever put up like an unedited version of the show and I’m like you have to understand what you hear is largely unedited it’s just like burps and coughs and just like evans’s marble mouth that we edited out and that’s all the edits are so this is I think Brave of us to do the Detroit Red Wings have the 15th overall pick in the 2024 NHL draft there has already been movement a ton of movement in the free agency world this is the last live draft the Vegas sphere looks sick there’s a screen and it’s big you were joking you were like all that’s they only have like that big rectangle up there I hope they do something else with it I’m like Brad these are hockey players and GMS like these are some caveman brains we’re no different we’d be up there going oh well you can tell when all the media got let into the sphere for the draft because there was a 15minute window where all my feed was was basically pictures of it just in everybody going whoa favorite comment so far is Big Brad raw dog in the draft Brad do not lift your feet but that is accurate I have learned from oops oh my God Evan we will not open that one for a while did you bring it enough for the class oh no every year every year Evan brings one beer I only had one beer in my house no that’s keep going anyways I have learned from previous uh iterations where I’ve had to sit in this God forsaken room for six hours it gets hot I have no idea how either of you are wearing that oh it’s a mistake it’s a gigantic mistake you are going to sweat that’s a gray sweat it’s going to be translucent by the end of the night oh wind wheel podcast after dark that’s when the super chat’s going to go away up the donations are going that’s when the raw dogging is going to come in handy with the shoes speaking of which Vision Quest checking in from Rocky Mountain House Alberta what are the chances of demidov at 15 thank you so much for the donation what are the chances zero zero if demidov was if he didn’t come over to North America I would give it a 0.5% chance but he has already come over and and shown pretty confidently that he’s going to be here yeah unless we he was somehow an ampute and we didn’t know I think that’s the only way if if it gets discovered in the next two hours and even then even then like yeah maybe 11 there’s some pretty bad skaters in the NHL they do just fine if you folks are in here we already have almost 500 of you in here give the give the video a thumbs up and if you haven’t noticed there’s a little thing on the top Corner we are on our push to 10,000 subscribers so give a thumbs up to the video and subscribe to the channel if you aren’t all already Kleberg join the sdpn what Nate no not all right I don’t want to know how many words you just excluded there uh one one okay we why don’t we start just very quickly with the draft we have some time before the Draft starts we we’ll get into some free agency topics Stam Coast is the big name of today but we’ll start with the draft 15th overall going over some of the names that’ll be there and again we’re going to be recapping this a bunch of times on the stream as people come in so NBN Connelly ha who is in play in your mind in terms of you know both preferred and who the Red Wings may take and you know who is likely to be gone before then well I think you’ve got this I’m hesitant to put Cole Eiserman in there with all the SOS rumors that have been floating around today but this group of about six or seven that seems to consist of hel mbn H Connelly soberg could probably put Ur in there maybe lenko that’s your your most likely group again if some teams at you know 10 11 1213 start reaching for guys you wouldn’t suspect that could throw a wrench in it but either way I think that’s the the group you’re going to be looking at to some degree what’s if Eiserman is there what does that say to you because there’s two schools of thought one Eiserman is you know has the shooting potential but just has too many other flaws in his game and it it won’t translate or there are folks who think that he’s going to go 10th for example so if he’s there are you does that concern you at all well no because the concerns about Cole Eiserman have been very prominent and very prevalent for six months plus you know what he is at this point like I think if he’s there at 15 four teams overthought it that’s kind of where I’m at that type of goal scoring ability is impossible to find does he how does he still stack up in your mind because ha is your one of your favorites yeah the Connelly and we’ll say it every time Connelly has the asterisk around him but ha connly are are in there in terms of you’re preferred for high upside you like NBN but not as much upside in your mind how does Eisman stack up against those guys oh he’s the best goal scorer of them and what’s the Red Wing’s biggest challenge right now scoring goals outside of goal tending but we’re not taking a goalie at 15 so we’ll we’ll Cruise past that they scored goals and because this gets talked about they scored goals last year and they did it well and they sustained it for the season but but every warning sign on the dashboard that says it’s not sustainable is lit up and was lit up all year right Kane might not be back gosses Spar might not be back the Bret’s not getting any younger like where are the goals coming from for the next and again when you’re drafting 15 overall we don’t care about this year this player might not even play it for two years yeah but where are the goals coming from in those two years cuz based in the system right now you’re putting a hell of a lot of stock in Nate Danielson and Carter maser’s goal scoring ability and don’t get me wrong I don’t think either of them are bad at it I’d be surprised if either of them ever put 30 in in a season it could be it could happen I’m not ruling it out but I’m not calling it likely they’re not bonafied yeah 30 goal guys yeah like once the Brink’s contract expires if he doesn’t get brought back who’s your your sniper who’s your you know we need to feed this guy the puck on the power play and there’s lots of guys I know obviously this is the isman conversation mbn could be that guy ha could be that guy Connelly could be that guy there’s going to be options but again my whole philosophy with this pick is whoever is going to put up the most points in the NHL is who the Red Wings need here because that’s their biggest Gap in their system right now all right we have some more Super chats coming in thank you so much for these donations guys Kyle McClair who donated $6.90 nice nice oh Ian had to do some math for a second he caught up says what free agents do you realistically want that will push this team to make the playoffs I’m hesitant like if you look at what the the projected gel contract is with Carolina and Reinhardt with Florida I want to avoid those like the plague not that they’re bad players but as we’ve went over the Red Wings don’t want 35y olds at 8 million when they’re going to be entering what should be their contention window I’m looking at the two three maybe four year guys age be damned we want stop gaps to the new core of good players of good age well if you get short enough term age doesn’t matter I.E Patrick Kane my big three in the dream world would be you get one of Kane marsho or Stam Coast on a three or less year contract because great players manageable term perfect transition into what should be the new core of the Red Wings when they’re done I would even here for the right price of fouryear on stamp Coast for example who doesn’t have the he’s slowed down quite a bit but he’s still producing he scored 40 goals this year on Tampa Bay COV is probably directly responsible for 15 of those but still but beyond that like it would have to be the right scenario what I’m afraid of is for an older guy like a crazy term and I think gensel is a great player I have all the time in the world for gensel I would love gensel in Detroit and I would probably not be angry at the contract that Caroline is signing him to but you can’t I can’t argue with you Brad it’s one of my favorite things to do in the world is argue with you but it makes so much more sense for Carolina if that deal gets done who’s in their window compared to Detroit who won’t be until he’s those years are less efficient I’m not anti- teams signing Elite 29 30y olds to 8year contracts if you’re in your window because if you’re Florida or Carolina right now you do not care about your five six seven and eight you’ll cross that bridge when you get to it your time is now the first three four years of that contract are what matter to you the most CU you’re in your window you’re going to win a Stanley Cup you’re going to try and win a Stanley Cup right so if the Red Wings were four years along from where they are right now I’d be all in on every one of these guys bring every one of them to the team bring the salary cap to within three cents of the cap if you can like spend it get the guys but they’re not I can’t stress enough the Red Wings aren’t there yet and they’re not close something with Stam Co is he’s 34 and so if you sign him it’s not a 35 Plus contract so that does make the later years a little bit easier in terms of ltir and buying out and things like that Daniel Klo says thank you for the donation Daniel says how close are the uh fans to running Eiserman out far very very far it is very it’s and we’ll say and we’ll say time and time again it is every fan should feel comfortable making Fair criticisms of their coach or GM or players these guys get paid a ton of money for what they do but in terms of the hot seat eisman’s is he lives in that ice hotel now after the Wallman trade and the shock of it and you know obviously this being a big draft big free agency I don’t think he’s close to being run out of town but I think there could be a Tipping Point for those who are on the fence this week either he makes a lot of great moves and they go on the good side or if it’s a weak free agency and maybe less an ideal draft it could tip people the other way coupling it with the wman trade and some other things so I I don’t think that’s going to be on the extreme end of it but I could see the seeds of Doubt starting to get sprinkled Conor 105 thank you so much for the Super Chat says love the Pod guys thoughts on what future considerations will be is it possible that Eiserman secured a pick swap at the draft if he wants if not they negotiated something separate so if it was a straightup pick trade they would have done it but uh you could see a scenario where like if a certain Guy is available but they’ve moved away from that pick now so it’s not like they’re butt up against each other in all likelihood the future considerations is not much of significance but I guess anything can happen I would put the odds at 98% that the F future considerations is nothing tapestry thank you so much for the donation says any chance Eisman was trying to set the market with including the second rounder with wman to price out other teams competing for same players no no it’s no because in the NHL if if a player contract or a trade is like a gross overpayment it’s kind of funny like you’ll see fan conversations and like that’s not the actual market for that player like remember Nathan McKinnon’s last contract before his big one GMS would try to set that as the Baseline and the PA and agents would be like no that contract is heinous from a player perspective that doesn’t set anything so a bad trade doesn’t set the market although it’s the 4D chest is a fun thought all right how many of you do we have in here so far Evan how are you feeling about the draft other than sad that we’re not in Vegas other than that you know it will be very interesting to see how all the picks play out ahead because I’ve see so many different options for so many teams like they’s still Elite level forwards there’s a massive crop of elite top 10 type defensemen that all kind of check a different box so how that all shakes out is anybody’s guess so that will be really intriguing and that will really set this the table at least for me I’m sure the Red Wings would say no about how the dra is going to play up for the Red Wings like who’s going to fall what maybe there’s an elite defenseman there that they weren’t expecting is that now the play that they take will someone like Berkeley kton fall to 15 is and is that someone they take will they just stick to their guns and say nope this is our the guy we want this is who they’re taking so you know barring the fact that the Red Wings are not inside the top 10 as of 6:15 p.m. uh Friday afternoon or Friday evening it’s about excited as you could get for a draft given where the Red Wings are uh Will Smith machine great name and I’m not sure whether this is the actor or the San Jose Sharks player either way come on the podcast uh thank you for the donation Edward Matthews I read a lot of these I try to keep up uh and then thank you Gavin Stewart for the donation Gavin says agree with Brad on the need to focus on teams cup window but do you guys think the average fans will be tolerant with another non-playoff season so you think about average fans like and and I’m talking people not tuning into draft live streams you know bless them they’re not online on Twitter so they’re all happier than us and you know they like to go to games with their friends or family and they tune in for a bunch of them but then they you know they’re a very I don’t want to say fair weather but they can be swayed on what you know Detroit team they’re focusing on and if the team’s doing poorly they just won’t pay attention they will be less tolerant of another playoff season a non-playoff season which is why I think there’s a push from both Chris illich and Steve Eisman to to make this a playoff team Money Talks Dan Haden says thank you for the donation says hey boys we know Steve always says he would rather have known assets versus prospects or picks who are you not jumping out the window for in terms of prospects or picks um who am I not jumping out the window for for for prospects like if you look at our mock draft I think we like going down to 15 16 like even 16 jet luchenko I’m fine Bren Z negard I’m obviously I like him Liam green I’m fine soberg I’m fine chernishof I’m fine Adam Ur I’m fine s like you get into like the Sasha bav you start to question it but it’s not insane but like I don’t know I guess if you get to like a a sec like a Dominic badinka then you’re like it also depends on who’s there right yeah well we’ve done enough rankings and mock drafts and redo enough list to know someone Good’s going to be there at 15 probably multiple very good players I feel there’s a drop around 16 in terms of quality on my list but yeah that next group of about six guys from 17 to you know 22 is they’re acceptable like I’m not going to be thrilled like if they go up and pick jet lenko I’m not going to flip a table but like I’ll be pretty firm in my mind there were better players available even though I’m pretty confident he’s going to be a very good player but you know my my whole thing and like it’s become a meme at this point I just want the redings to take someone outside of their stereotype you know what I mean I don’t just just for the fun of it let’s get something different because if it’s you’re a che soberg brenig you’re for the content man don’t pretend you’re not you’re for the content you love this oh my God but like no well that’s what I mean it’s more fun if we go outside of that if we pick BR segard and I’m on Rec to say this I love the player big fan boring he’s he’ll go score 31 goals one day and he’ll back check like like a bad out of hell and we’ll all go I love this guy I’m so happy we picked him at 15 and I’ll be like yeah that’s great and then Michael ha is over here scored 30 goals and I’ll be like that would have been fun too but no I know I know how it goes it’s not like they have a bad drafting record in the first round so like I’m not super worried but it just something different with would be fun Brad’s Brad’s Draft take is the same as his real life take which is I just want to feel something yes people think Evan’s the one who’s dead inside and it’s actually Brad this is all just a show from Evan uh just catching up with these super chats thank you guys so much for for the donations we can’t say thank you enough broseph says stay fresh cheese bags thank you Joseph Brad great our favorite Brad so far that we’ve met says is there possibly something we don’t know about wman yet that warranted the second injury or some other issue barring him not being available for a while Brad that is our best guest too that is the only acceptable answer Cody says what do you think of Marino or Holtz I’m not too too no uh pun intended familiar with the Devils but I saw that they are shopping them Holtz is an interesting project but I don’t have a lot of hope it kind of just seems like Zena 2.0 yeah I mean okay let’s I I hate using the extreme end of this cuz I don’t think these equate to what I’m about to compare them to but look at Florida they took a lot of flyers on talented guys and a lot of them hit forsling on waivers Montour for nothing etc etc that Point’s been beaten to death the Red Wings have had success on taking flyers on guys like this Robbie fabry Jake wman uh they need to take more swings like this yeah they’re not all going to hit like I know that remember anybody remember Brendan perini no yeah no neither just Steve Eiserman but Holtz would be worth again gble if the cost is Right Marino would be worth the gamble if the cost is right I actually really like John Marino you want a stop gap on the right side he’s probably better than a lot of the free agents that are available on the right side anyway and probably going to be more cost effective because I don’t think his contract’s all that out there so yeah take flyers on guys like this it’s it’s what you should be doing where you’re at in your rebuild okay going here I Rainman thank you so much for the generous $50 Super Chat real wow thank you says I’d love if they could snag Kier out of Nashville he was top 30 in defensive Zone denial rate could probably get him at 4 million for three years would be a good second paired demand for us maybe he’s ALS maybe also a deal for Aiden Hill heard he’s available I like both of those options actually I do too so you know what’s funny is we talked about Dakota Joshua and we talked about what he would have to get on the open market I like the deal at Vancouver talking the Kier kind of type Vancouver got him on a nice deal well forward versus defense I it’s funny you say that cuz I’m very happy the Red Wings didn’t sign that contract with Dakota Joshua I don’t think that’s a good deal at all I think it’s a good deal you’re telling me he’s going to shoot 20s something percent again this year no it’s not about that though it’s his he’s a very well-rounded player but again my firm belief it was 4 by3 right yeah I think something very close to that if not exact don’t overpay for depth but he I I think he’s worked his way into like effective utility middle six guy yeah if you’re really optimistic yeah I think he can sorry 4X 3.25 and I know thank you for for clarifying I meant like the the shutdown kind of player that Joshua and Carrie would be yeah no 100% um I mean he’s he’s Michael rasmon with a higher shooting percentage like he’s he’s good I’m not again when when I get on this stuff people think I think these guys suck no I just don’t think he’s worth that contract anyway I think he’s good Kier Aiden Hill did you see the thing today it’s apparently someone reported no one wants John Gibson and if I could have added one qualifier to that no one wants John Gibson for what Anaheim wants for him yeah John Gibson you essentially have to give away 100% like he’s making $6 million for very mediocre numbers for the last four years yes we understand he’s you’re going to get more stability his floor is higher but his ceiling ain’t High anymore like you get what you get and it’s not $6 Million worth so are you retaining or are you giving up an asset to have someone take that full cap hit Vermillion thank you for the donation says isn’t it kind of a waste to spend money on Aging Talent when we could get the same results from younger Talent not a fan of getting Marner or stampco you can’t you don’t get the same results from Young Talent the the Primus is good but Marner and Stam Coast aren’t good examples of that yeah like if we’re talking about a I don’t know if you go back in red wi’s past do I think Marco Casper could do 80% of what I don’t know Andrew cop’s been doing yeah probably reasonably quickly and I would have preferred that route but there’s nobody in the Red Wings organization who will do what Stam Co or Marner would do for the next three years not a single person all right next one from hockin Alabama thank you so much for the donation says if a player loses balance on at least one foot when they’re trying to shoot or do other things while skating how worrying is that or is it not worrying well it depends what the results are right like some guys can make very bad technique very effective nothing marks sounds like golf yeah jeez nothing Mark Stone does is technically good and he’s a top 20 30 player in the world right that being said you this level of hockey you have to be exceptional or you have to be technically sound so yeah there would be concern if a guy can’t take a proper snapshot with bance all right and just looking at the subscriber counter I think we’re 30 away from 10K so if you are on the stream there’s about 1100 of you welcome to the wind wheel podcast annual NHL draft the 2024 version of the live stream give the stream a thumbs up it really helps the channel and subscribe we’re almost at 10,000 which is blowing our minds stancho says is zorov a legitimate fit for Detroit I personally love the guy what do you mean no how many left D do we need the Vibes Brad I love Nikita zadorov big fan you’ve seen his contract projections right no thank you I love the guy but you just lost a Vibes player Walman you kind of need to replace some Vibes oh hold on hold on what do you prefer trouba or zadorov trouba at 6 million say what’s what’s Zora’s contract you got to give me a contract CU that what what’s like evolving hockey projection or something I’ll look it up yeah because I don’t like Jacob trouba I at six mil he’s okay like I’m I’m okay with that I do love the fact call it a five by five and a half True by th% a thousand two years I want stop gaps I don’t want aging guys making too much money in four or five years he doesn’t want us to have fun Evan you’re for the content what do you you don’t want fun you’re not you’re telling me you don’t want fun TR is fun I was going to say he’s he’s maximum chaos and you’re not looking forward to five yearly chats about suspensions what do you mean his elbow hit his head his head hit his elbow there’s actually for the shouldn’t have been standing there the patrons we haven’t posted the patreon exclusive from last episode because sleep but it’s going to have an outtake from last episode which is hysterical which one was that the one where I accidentally said the quiet part out loud about trouba and like why he’s beneficial to the team because he hurts people a spoiler you want people to subscribe to the patreon or not you brought up violence everyone’s going you’re guessing based on your memory shut up oh hey if you want to support us uh patreon uh supporters get benefits like these bonus episodes some of them have been interesting lately yeah Riley Enright thank you for the generous donation says is there any chance that cop will live up to his contract at this point I would welcome a new washing machine instead of him I can’t see a buo or anyone taking the contract he’s on he is a useful player he is nowhere near worth that contract the best you can hope is that he continues to rebound doesn’t taper off in play and the cap going up makes it more stomachal I think you can count on the one thing the cap going up and you hope the two one of the two others his contract’s not the end of the world but in terms of what they would have wanted from him no because they would have you know the organiz organization wanted more offense now cop did say a lot of things about like you know the organization asked me to play more defensively and that’s why you didn’t see the offense talking to people around the organization it’s they asked him to do that because the offense wasn’t coming so it’s kind of like remember when rasmon they were trying him at Center and it just wasn’t working you put him where he does well uh Kyle McClure says when are we doing a winged wheel podcast Jamie Daniels hockey game that is very much in the cards so I think hopefully this year is when things settle for us a little bit I’m tempting the hockey Gods by saying that broseph another donation says just a reminder stay fresh cheese bags thank you for the the reminder all right how many of you in here 1161 do we want to go through predicted pick or per favorite picks and Byrum Anton londell who was the other one that you kept redrafting Seth Jarvis Seth Jarvis you’d love to for those who are new yeah he’s got a great track record Evan he does actually you only I’d be happy with any three of them okay any of the three edin Evan did you almost call me Edinson yes because Evan correctly predicted the Edinson pick I correctly predict hold on I predicted Edinson a year before he did you did wow you’re such a hipster I correctly predicted Danielson sandine pelica so Brad who is it actually going to be this year it’s your turn I I would say mbn in a heartbeat but I don’t think he’s getting that far I he’s got Buffalo written all over him uh I don’t know this one’s wide open I’m just trying to think I don’t think helenus Falls because I think the Red Wings would scoop him up I don’t think soberg gets that far otherwise the redings would scoop him up honestly gut feeling right now I think it’s Connelly I that’s my gut too man I I feel like they’re just GNA say f it let’s go uh Harvey Hela thank you for the generous donation says Evan Brad and Ryan love the content boys I’m with Evan on this draft select Cole Eiserman or Brad’s pick Michael ha haage okay so I’ve heard announcers say ha and I’ve heard someone say that he pronounces it hey so whatever it is we’re going by what the draft like whoever drafts him what they say although if it’s not the Red Wings we’re not talking about them I need clarification between ha and seneki I can we get them on camera saying their names please yeah uh okay Connelly actually no Evan your prediction for who the who I think the readings will take or who no who you think who I would take no no who what you think’s going to happen oh well this is set in stone for sure then uh I already hinted that there’s so much volatility ahead of them in the draft this year but yeah I think you know just sort of hearing what other people are talking about in the media and what we have from past experiences following the the draft for the Red Wings man I hate to say they’re going to take a high floor guy like mbn or constantan I would prefer if they took a Trevor Connelly Michael ha type guy but uh gun to gun to the sphere gun to the sphere also they take Cole Eiserman oh okay all right Todd R thank you for the donation extremely good comment says Brad is right except when Evan disagrees you’re absolutely right silencio said with a 420 donation thank you says will we be seeing an Evan pie dance this draft there’s no pie in this house there’s no pie uh Civ thank you so much for the generous donation says Michael ha for the win okay so your prediction connly my prediction connly Evans eer you know let’s now obviously the asteris if soberg or NBN fall it’s one of them for sure I don’t think so NBN I can see soberg no I don’t I just think I think the Red Wings have so many left-handed D they’re going to do it just to screw with us and I like soberg but like there’s a limit right I don’t necessarily think it’s going to be mbn again my prediction is I think he doesn’t get past Buffalo but if he does okay so your preferred picks in terms of who’s reason and I think Eiserman could be reasonable I think Berkeley katton is just outside of range yeah no kon’s not reasonable again I want offense give me Eiserman helenius ha even mbn I I he scores I know that just don’t think offensively he has as high a ceiling as the other three but that like that’s the group that I would be zeroing in on in order of those ones I’ll go iserman helenius Hae mbn but I could be easily swayed to flip-flop helenius and ha Eiserman helenius ha mbn yeah all right Evan your preferred picks can I just just put a catch all and say anyone who drops as no because that’s put that as number four that’s a given put that as number correct yakam Chuck katton that celebrini guy’s a real [ __ ] I’m not doing I’m just like dragging things around the screen can we start the Twitter rumor that Ivan demidov only has one leg the other ones actually would we’re too late dude I think the Montreal Canadians I think outside of being the most rabid fans in hockey they are also incred posters because their GM is literally spreading rumors hell yeah I I mean allegedly spreading rumors about demov to get him to drop to be fair did you see like Cory proman is usually pretty well connected and his predictions the last couple years have tended to be the closest to reality do you see where demidov went in his last mock today no nine no absolutely there’s no he was the only guy that was on Shane rate to at four if demidov’s at nine I die inside I’m selling everything I have to move up to 9 even with a wooden leg yes we can have pirate Knights yeah we yeah we got to pick think of the content Brad hold on we gotta make our picks based off memes pirate themes for demidov ha against machine Knight when we draft him oh dude come on Eiserman Knight you don’t know whether it’s going to be Steve or Cole one one of them’s GM one of them’s player you don’t know which and we’re going to rotate this whole week what’s that old Movie Trading Places yeah yeah oh think of the contest imagine they like Freaky Friday it oh man yeah what other themes could we get for the guys who are in that range did you want me to make an actual pick did you want to I thought you I thought you said Eiserman did I oh yeah you you gave Brad like four your preferred picks okay yeah sorry you got to give a an order everyone who drops I this guy there you go all right going to catch up on the super chats thank you all so much for these donations Luke says good luck the next two days guys yes so what’s going to happen today we are doing this live stream obviously covering the entire first round of the NHL draft oh we hit 10,000 subscribers I just missed it thank you go you had one literally one job oh it’s at 10,000 and one we’re okay oh yeah I did miss it missed it y we miss Milestones on this podcast like nobody else thank you folks so much 10,000 is we’re blown away if you had to ask us how many anytime someone asks me how long we’ve been doing this I legitimately need 5 to 10 seconds to do the math and figure out yeah uh uh so we’re doing the live stream today and for patrons we’re covering rounds two through seven in like a live open room where us three are there and and patrons are coming in and out it’s a great time uh what do you guys think the odds are that the wings do not make a pick tonight PS love the hat Ryan thank you yeah I’m channeling the Lions had a good drafts I’m trying to channel that energy I think the odds of them making their pick are [Music] 95% yeah within I’ll say within three picks of their pick I could see a slight move up move down I don’t think that would be crazy yeah but like trading it for like KN chass or something like that I don’t think it’s particularly likely yeah I I’ll call it yeah 90 plus percent. Kyle mcar says what pick makes Brad and Evan throw Ryan out a window oh there’s no one that I like that you guys hate me and you like helenus more than Evan but Evan’s not jumping out of window of helenius I don’t know actually you don’t even have to I don’t even have to like the pick but you’re just so mad that you toss me I could throw you through the window out of Happiness I’m totally open to both options yeah Berkeley K might do it yeah oh if it’s Berkeley cat and at 15 something’s getting thrown that’s fair I actually don’t mind it I’d be I’d like to go happy that’s always going a goal of I think to throw you out the window it would have to be it’s very situationally the context there is very important because if there is someone who’s falling and it’s like oh my God the Red Wings could take this guy and then they take mbn you’re going out the window yeah I don’t think it’s so much who they pick if Ken Falls to 15 and they take anybody but Katon I’m going out the window the window why is it me you’re the lightest yes yes you have Dad density and you’re a milk bag so uh Greg will or sorry Wayne gibbis says Stam Coast decline Tampa Bay 3 million by eight-year contract what the hell is that offer that can’t be real so insulting they’re like it worked for Tanner Jano maybe it’ll work for Steven stos they’re basically daring him to not retire what would you offer him three four years three by seven Greg Williams says you guys are the best thanks for the company in this misery that’s all we can offer thank you Greg for your company in this misery Will Smith machine says iserman plays like Verana what do you guys think no I like Eiserman in small areas better than I liked Verana Verana I think ver was a little bit more Dynamic he was a little bit more reliant on the rush if that makes sense yeah can cona 105 says congrats on the 10K fellows thank you so much I I thought we would have to wait until September to get there but yeah we’re so appreciative uh glj says we finally have the cap for sudor p holy [ __ ] don’t Dan Haden says seeing rumors on the Jets looking to move eers would you do a deal for eers in mccordi 15 and who elers and mcgi 15 and take your pick at that point yeah you’re you I’m willing to move quite a bit yeah that’s adding for the future and for the now yes but also for the midterm future too we we’re big eers people on this on this podcast okay uh the Trevor Connelly asterisk is there and we talk about it a lot in the podcast in a moment after I do a quick you know please subscribe thing Brad is going to help us explain the Connelly situation with the qualifiers that’s right I’m giving you the hard job throw me under the bus fine but first we have almost 13 13 30 of you in here if you guys are in here uh please give the the stream a thumbs up and if you haven’t already subscribe to the channel thank you for tuning in draft coverage is going to start theoretically in about 20 minutes here so we’ll be walking through that together but Trevor Connelly peculiar player because he is probably going to be the most talented player on the board by a lot when he’s picked and might not get picked for an extraordinarily long time so why and I am going to duck out for a second there’s a non-zero chance he doesn’t get picked today right and uh so without getting into the details of the incidents to give you there was a swastika picture incident there was a pissing on his teammates hockey bag incident he had to change teams a lot in minor hockey a lot of people say that was attitude issues a lot of there have been stories in his defense where apparently he was bullied and a lot of what he did was in retaliation but either way it didn’t work out with the teams and again this is just a little sample there’s there’s articles about there where you can do deep Dives on all the stuff that he has done and been through that have raised the red flags but again the production is Elite the talent is is very high it’s were those mistakes made by a 12 13 14 15 year-old that he has matured from or is that who he is as a person trying to figure out teenagers easy science yes yes yeah it’s never good when Katie Strang puts out an article about you uh especially in your draft year so um yeah to say there’s some controversy in a cloud that follows Trevor Connelly would be an understatement yeah if if if you get a phone call and you just see the name Katie Strang pop up your career is about to end you need do not answer that you need to start researching backup plans at that point I think I’ve said it quite a few times if the Red Wings pick Trevor conally at 15 then I truly believe they’ve done their due diligence in the player interviews you know doing back background checks of some sort I will have no problems doing it or with them doing that pick so now Eiserman was the guy who drafted Tony D’Angelo in his draft here my God he also traded him a year later for a second round pick so do with that information whatever you will but uh yeah he’s he’s not afraid to take swings on Talent all right more donations here broseph says folks a gentle reminder stay fresh cheese bags thank you so much brosa for the very astute reminders they’re much needed and it’s much appreciated Todd R says did wman did the wman trade Shake confidence in Eiserman for some folks yeah uh Civ says who is this year’s Wyatt Johnston I wish I could tell you the guy who see the thing is with Wyatt Johnston was he it was the covid era draft like there were so many unknowns and we don’t have that this year if we’re talking you know guy in the OHL who might have more offensive upside than previously thought but had a well-rounded game in junior so you could maybe see the reality would that be jet lenko I feel like he’s probably I don’t love the stylistic comparison but like the the the profile is there yeah I why Johnson yeah you’re right is a peculiar case because you could project it really far out and the thing is if you can project that far out those guys generally aren’t falling so it’s not going to be as dramatic but I don’t I don’t mind that comp there yeah I don’t think he’s going to score 30 goals in the NHL like whyatt Johnston does but Kyle Bose thank you so much the extremely generous donation says annual Draft Day tithe thank hoping it’s playoffs one day thank you appreciate that so we have the draft stream going up here it I think the way this is going to work with just how the streaming services on our TV in front of us works when the draft happens you a lot of you folks will be ahead of us so we’re not going to read the chat generally we advise you know don’t spoil it in the chat do your best live how you will um but yeah uh Kyle thank you that’s an extremely generous donation brini looks like the type of guy who paid a lot of money for Macklin to be on a lot of teams when he was seven years old and it works because yes he works in the NFL right or no uh Golden State Warriors yeah uh Riley Enright thank you again for the donation says I heard hockey Savant uh recommend multiple buyouts for cap space uh is there difference between bought out contracts and salary retained yes that you can only retain salary on three contracts at a time so that has to be done via trade and San Jose so for example San Jose has all those spots filled on Hurdle Burns and Carlson uh buyouts there’s no limit on buyouts there are limits as to when you can do it and what you know the process you have to go through and it gets a little complicated from there basically if the Red Wings are buying anybody out will’ll know tomorrow uh Dylan Hol voiceover says uh Kat went to the D in button mock how accurate has he been in his uh mocks recently he’s not he’s definitely pretty colorful in his opinions for draft rankings and mocks but I wouldn’t say he’s inaccurate he’s not the most accurate though I think there have been like McKenzie the modern version prman like certain people are more connected prman wheeler and McKenzie I’d all give more credibility in terms of likelihood to happen button’s a guy who leans a little bit more on his opinions yeah but hey I would love for Craig to be right on this one Carl TS thank you for the donations says anyone else been watching Magic Man highlights on an endless loop this week oh man just this week yeah I basically I I been my life since 2016 that tab has been open for many years Red Wing’s fan club says after seeing that man aony trade having to attach a second to wman to move him as rough yeah that was our imedia thought we were laughing about that in the group chat well the good news is we’ve had a lot of time to digest uh like all the way that makes sense and the conclusion we came to naturally was it doesn’t Josh trell thank you says any thoughts on Lucas Fischer from Saria the son of Yuri fiser and I’ve heard a lot of good things so yeah I’m big into Lucas Fischer as like a later or you know not a first- round pick but beyond that nepotism and hockey Ryan come on look never if anyone deserves it it’s Yuri Fischer Fair all right we are 15 minutes away from draft time which means we’re probably what six hours away from the 15th overall pick we’re probably three hours away from the first pick we’ll see how they do I don’t know I feel like the NHL’s been hearing a lot of criticism recently and I’ve seen them try to speed things up like like what the The Season’s longer than it’s ever been no no after the co the co draft was atrocious they actually they had limitations there I yeah they didn’t they didn’t 100 years old don’t know how to use laptops they didn’t execute it well but the hurdle there was understandable after I would we were horrified the year after that that that was going to happen again oh you couldn’t have paid me to make it past round three if we had to do it that format again yeah that was that was tough what are your more out there projections as I set up some more things here on the stream give us some of your more out there projections in terms of what might happen in this first round it could be demidov 9 it could be cat and falling so I’ve seen two names linked to Anaheim at three from very reputable sources zeve boam and Becket seneki that would be way out there and I for me that’s exactly where boam should go but that is far from the consensus I could see yakimchuk making it all the way to Buffalo I I’ve seen a lot of varying opinion on him I’ve seen pereko to the top 10 in in a lot of scenarios like out there like with some credibility I could see soberg and bran seg neard both gone by 11 trying to think of who some of the other big wild cards are that uh that have been all over the place it’s it’s the same I think soberg close if not in the top 10 is is up there I’ve got my I I know the isman rumors but I’ve still got my eye on him and San Jose yep I agree how about you Evan I was going to say soberg inside the top 10 even that like that does seem crazy because I think there’s just at this point in their development better defensive prospects you could pick but man are people really loving the cider comparison not only just from a stylistic perspective but just the lack of coverage oh boy that’s loud who is your who is your prediction again for what oh my God this draft what do you think I just keep I’ll give you a 100 guesses for what what do you think I was asking your prediction for this draft Yeah anyone who falls no no prediction oh who do you think who they think use use your your left ear Evan not your right ear Cole Eiserman Cole Eiserman that’s right yeah okay I think we have some more donations to chat about here oh my God you guys are being extremely extremely generous thank you so much Tyler Bigalow says Ryan Show the banner your mom uh bought by you do you have it there yes here it is you gotta raise it oh yeah there you go look at it hold on hold on I got to I got to have it so it’s like no we can’t have this in front actually if you want to hold it over my head the entire time that’s fine um hawy Alabama says which nepo pick not named te would you want uh example chatan K Vu fisher fisher Bruce hak says appreciate you cheese bags and taking time out to do that uh do this tonight Dayton folks in the chat let’s go thank you so much Bruce I hope I didn’t butcher your last name and appreciate the donation Ian Bush says all I want to know is what bike Evan has LOL I’m training for an Iron Man and I’m a nerd for this stuff let’s go Red Wings I hope Stevie finesses a move up he donated to you Evan you have to tell him why would you not just reach out somewhere else and I can because you’re not going to answer DMS you can’t even read that’s the whole point there’s Trevor Connelly base your entire opinion on what he looks like can he solve a Rubik’s Cube yes or no well okay can’t draw for Ian Ian DM Evan he will answer you hold on remind me to remind Evan to respond to Ian tomorrow at noon Zan per solved the Rubik’s Cube there you go top five guaranteed y uh Brad says crazy prediction Philly moves up and takes demidov demidov and mov would be filthy that would be disgusting they are aggressively trying to get up there was all those rumors they threw significant offers at Columbus for four broseph very astute comment here thank you for the donations says Public Service Announcement stay fresh cheese bags Aaron kiv Haru is ranked eighth for international skaters defenseman was it and yet most mocks I have seen have him like midc round now interesting and before you ask yes if he’s there yes in the second yes Oh I thought you meant first round for a second okay5 00 people in here we are 10 minutes away from the draft time they are this is the last inperson draft Denver Wing says a red hand pointing up I don’t understand oh it’s an emoji readout yeah because I’m on this stupid app thank you for the donation Denver Wings sorry it just reads out and thank you Wayne gibbis for another donation extremely extremely appreciated T ginla let’s talk about him he good one is his late rise warranted and two how funny would it be if someone other than Calgary takes him hilarious I hope Seattle takes him at eight just to watch the the actually you know the funniest thing would be he’s there for Cal at 9 and they don’t what’s about what about yakimchuk for them though because he you said he his combine might push him down the order yeah he’s not the mo most athletic guy but like big douge Hamilton vibes from him like yeah he’s not your typical hockey bro personality and yeah he’s not the most naturally athletic person on the planet but he scored 30 goals as a defenseman in the WHL and he’s mean like he’s he needs a lot of refining like you watch him on the ice he he looks awkward you can tell he’s not an athlete but you can also tell he gets it yeah yeah that’s fair all right uh ice ice ice de baby ice Dey sorry I’m messing that up I de says thoughts on Henry Muse as a potential second round pick me lukewarm don’t hate him not super infatuated with him all right let’s take some questions and comments from the chat which is going through how many people do we have in here all right let’s go back to live mode here 1500 of you folks welcome to the wind wheel podcast annual NHL draft live stream if you’re not already subscri subscribe to the channel we just passed a 10K Mark which is we’re so appreciative and give a thumbs up to the stream uh it helps us a bunch all right Trent Barney in the chat says hot takes only what is eisman’s uh big move hot takes only eisman’s big move is he moves up today because demidov or K’s falling if you want a hot hot take Marner to like on the floor I don’t know if it’s tonight but Vegas is apparently all over it with Marr said B you would need 15th overall as a minimum to get Marner so do with that information the meadian says what up boys I’m watching at work and my supervisor says hi hello the meadian supervisor extremely diligent worker actually deserves many many many more days off so just a suggestion from us uh anyways who would win Norris first cider Edinson or Axel sandine pelica cider cider just because he’s more established Axel sandine pelica will at some point because of points because points win you Awards in this league but it’s un Undisputed that both will of course of course Kaden lindström afraid of his injuries if you’re not at 15 no no no if you’re like three or four yeah that would be Montreal concerning not in a significant way but you’d be concerned all right let’s actually what I’ll do is from our last episode we did our final mock draft we’ll read what our mock draft was acknowledging that we were laughing at the players who fell during this so we went celebran to the Sharks first overall leinoff to the Blackhawks second salv to the Ducks third demidov to Columbus fourth Lindstrom to Montreal fifth Utah takes boam 6th that’s probably we’re we’re doing we’re doing great so far seventh Ottawa Iginla eighth Seattle Becket s senica ninth Calgary yakimchuk 10th Jersey katton 11th San Jose Dickinson 12th Philly Cole Eiserman 13th Minnesota consta helenius 14th Buffalo peric 15th the Red Wings Trevor Connelly and then Jet luchenko 16th Michael ha 17th 18 Michael brzeg negard 19th Liam Green Tree 20th styan soberg 21st chernishov 21st sorry 20th soberg 21st turnov 22nd alfons Frey year 23rd bav 24 Basha 25th EJ Emory uh parisek Ryder Richie eigor Surin Cole bodwen and then Dominic Basha 32nd oh wait no that’s 31st Dean lern 32nd all right more donations here Todd R says where are the laat blue cans we might need them saving them saving them we’ll see how 15 goes yeah we’ll see how 15 goes all right we have 655 all right predictions on when the first pick is going to happen 732 Jesus even I’m not that pessimistic yeah it’s a little I hope not 721 I got 717 no I’ll go 716 717 is an all right day it’s a good day on the right year fun fact the day I became a legal adult was the day Bard was born are you serious you know how depressing that oh my God that’s sad yep that’s extremely sad it is okay more questions here in the chat taking them in here we’re the sphere they’re not really doing a good job of showing off the sphere it’s also funny because everyone’s just like craning their necks up I can’t wait to see Gary Batman’s head just rotating around the outside of that thing Evan fired on air H trust me can’t fire this guy Wayne givis thank you for the donation says do you think the 11th overall pick the Sharks received from Buffalo is the future considerations were owed from the wman trade it is not absolutely not I wish it was but it is not people are going to be so disappointed in two weeks when they realize the future considerations was actually nothing Sarah just predicted seni at three to the Ducks oo interesting I said it 10 minutes ago even though I was just paring something else that I read from someone else clay thank you for the donation uh I’m not paring more of what Evan said but uh X was my favorite hockey player what’s up dub dubs how’s it going everyone thank you for saying hi um did they boo bman they have to imagine they will if they didn’t they lose their hockey team those are the rules who was it that Seattle boo Vegas didn’t right I don’t know I remember I think it was yeah Vegas didn’t really do a good job booing and that was disappointing to me Jonathan I might hang the banner one day maybe when we get the a bigger studio if we move to a bigger house uh okay more Conant helenius is a guy that we’ve talked about not enough I think he’s closer to the top of my list of who might I I actually think constant helenus will be gone we have different opinions so between Brad and Evan who I think represent the two sides of that who’s constant helenus to you in your minds Brad if you if you can manage to take your eyes off the McDonald’s commercial it was a weird one anyways uh in a perfect world he’s your poor man’s Patrice berser on because that 200 foot well-rounded game not a lot of elite skill but just so smart and competitive that he he gets things done because he’s efficient effective knows where to be knows when to make the play and can make it fast enough that he’s not out of play now there are questions is that pace enough to translate to the NHL because we know how smart he is I I don’t think he’s going to come into the NHL and be like some 80 Point scorer or like first line Center but I think souped up JT Comer does that make sense JT Comer with a little more offense yeah I don’t hate that I I think that’s kind of where I’m at I’m like if if all goes right he’s going to be a good second line Center not elit but good there’s like it’s funny cuz people think High hockey IQ and then they also feel like that automatically comes with high skill and I think that’s the delineation with constantan is he thinks the game extremely well which is why I think his ceiling is high the execution at the very least hasn’t been there to a super high degree otherwise I think he’d be going higher you laughing at my message yes yes Evan Evan will read it tomorrow uh but I just when a player has that high of a hockey IQ like you can’t help but like it but Evan you’re not as as high on helenius so how come I’m not H I’m not low on him my whole point was he’s to me he’s just very vanilla you know he might be one of the have the highest hockey IQ in the draft like he’s an incredibly cerebral player I think on one of Wheeler scouts or executive polls he did actually come in at number one for H highest hockey IQ in the draft and it’s it’s hard to bet against that right it’s the hard it’s the hardest trait to teach some will argue you can’t teach it at all and I will argue till I’m blew in the face it’s the most important skill to have on a hockey rank okay but for me there’s a lot okay I’m glad you said that thank you if it comes along with below average skating shooting and St kindling you’re Li you’re not going to succeed yeah you be the smartest guy in the planet but if if you can’t put it all together then what’s the point and for me I just think constant helenus has just like very okay like when I say okay I mean like first round Talent level Dynamic skill set like he is outthinks everyone and at some point you need to have Elite traits to really flourish and become a a superstar top end player in the NHL I mean he did have significant production for a 17-year-old in Liga like it wasn’t nothing that’s what I’m saying man like there’s skating doesn’t necessarily translate to NHL level skating that’ll make a difference shooting Red Wing fans know full well timu pin and Philip Zena shooting doesn’t necessarily translate to NHL level shooting the sphere looks sick you mean you missed all those Martin FK rocket rash shards hockey IQ isn’t a guarantee nothing is but of all the traits that you can bet on that is the one that is the safest bet in my mind and I get what you’re saying Evan like does he jump out at you he hasn’t put it together in in such a way where you’re like jumping out of your seat but if you you also have to pick a guy who doesn’t make you jump out of your seat now but you think in a few years you go back and you look oh why didn’t we see the signs I think he’s at the top of that list yeah if I’m talking you know the sort of vanilla players I have in the draft like uh constenius mbn maybe even CH luchenko a little bit he is the the premium vanilla of all those players he’s the French vanilla he’s the French he’s the Finnish vanilla Conor 105 thank you for the donation says my account Vegas is $300 million over the cap and all the Red Wings commentators are saying that the Red Wings are broke after paying cider and Raymond when does the cap is fake come to Detroit when they start to do what Vegas does at the deadline uh when yeah uh Jacob thank you for the donation says who wins a championship first bills or or Utah I hate it he you got a couple years for that answer to be bills as long as Josh Allen is on the team all things are possible Todd R says thank you for the donation says connly cleared and ha also there debate which one are either at the same skill level as Raymond coming in no no they are not at the level of Lucas Raymond there were three points separating them in the USHL this year in Connelly’s favor he he did finish adding I think there was one or two less games played like where I fall on this debate is they are so close don’t take the risk just take H you me have any doubt character doubts in Trevor Connelly after doing all the interviews and whatnot then you take Michael ha but assume he’s cleared assume he’s 100% won’t be a problem that way if you’re a th% sure yeah he’s the pick obviously I think I think Connelly as well okay catching other showing demidov oh there just a super cut of everyone catching up on the chat here how many people do we have in here we have 1500 of you I was going to say at least three yeah well two and a half at any given moment thank you all so much for being here if you haven’t already give the video a thumbs up and subscribe to the channel it helps us a ton is going I don’t even want to know I I don’t even want to know okay Berkeley Ken I saw a question in the chat earlier why are we so high on Berkeley cat because there are no flaws to his game outside of the fact that he’s 5 foot 10 like it what you look for in a top six center he checks every box skating compete hockey IQ you know playmaking scor he scored over 50 goals and he’s known more as a playmaker like but he’s 5 foot 10 that’s that’s the drawback you you are taking Berkeley katton because you legitimately think that could be Braden point and I’m not saying he’s going to be as good as Braden point but I think he’s got the potential to get pretty damn close I’m just shocked by like I’m shocked by the all the indication that he’ll fall indications that he’ll fall I get the Run of defenseman will naturally push forwards down yeah and I get like there’s the Lindstrom who’s bigger and yeah you know demidov obviously here’s my hot take he makes it to 15 and we don’t take him I I’d have an aneurism if no but here’s the thing if Kat’s there at 15 I can’t I couldn’t give it more than a 60% chance that they take him if mbn is gone and if soberg is gone then I could see it pretty confidently but I don’t know but he’s not getting to 15 that’s that’s the pipe dream Jacob thank you for the donation says I really like the names in this draft uh chitan mustard NBN what is your favorite name called in the past couple of years there were some really good hockey names oh what there was an excellent hockey name d i want to say it was a couple years ago it was like an alln name draft wasn’t it was that the red Savage draft yeah maybe it was red Savage Brad help us out here sorry what was that alltime hockey names like uh from the draft there’s like from the something with thunder or something all time draft rer mcro is a great H yeah that’s that one’s always going to be a classic um I’m only thinking of guys from the 90s and like the 1940s right now dit Clapper yeah cutter go is a great one red Savage was an awesome one trying I’m I found a thread ukap peka lcan is a good one Marcel Marcel oh IV IV the middle name was proven to not be true but yeah still Ivon Ivon we all believed it yeah yep because everything on the internet’s true Cal Clutterbuck but that’s not a draft pick name there was another one I can’t remember what it was it was something to do with like thunder if you’re in the chat and you know just uh remind me if you can John great to see you here welcome how’s it going uh if you can in the chat let us know where you’re where you’re tuning in from it’s always fun to see where people are amadas Lombardi is a great hockey name oh man fre has has relatively tamed hair and he clean shaven that’s how that’s how know real deal going down tonight they got to him all right where’s the draft board looking here Evan yes favorite player of the like projected top 10 so you’re talking the zeve boam Zan perck guys like I canell BR all right all right uh outside of them though I still think Ivan demidov is objectively the second best player in this Draft when I started doing some deep Dives on him he’s had the best MHL season of all time for a draft eligible player he can do things that no one else in this draft can do he’s got a great shot he’s can manipulate time and space and I’m not even talking about on I he’s just a wizard he’s just a wizard so he’s a Human Highlight machine he’s dynamic in every sense of the word he is definitely one of my favorite players in the top 10 we have someone tuning in from Japan I love reading where everyone’s tuning in from the UK this is awesome why is it there’s a oh my God why is it zooming in on me no go back here geez sorry is there anybody from Jackson Hole because I have yet to confirm that’s a real place sorry I don’t know how long we were zoomed in on me but it was just a zoom like a close-up of my face and I think at one point I was doing this just looking at my laptop camera my bad guys fantastic Jackson Hole is you’re uh Jackie is in uh outside the window someone’s in the walls for sure oh I’ve always wondered what’s in that crawl space You ask too many questions that’s actually where Evan sleeps and believe it or not he is still late to the podcast with the right amount of donations we can find out what the mar we open the crawl we will sacrifice Evan to the crawl space at pick 14 are they starting coverage I think my 717 pick is way off cuz they’re just starting like a video montage now oh of the NHL draft yeah Evan’s going to nail this one what’ you say 732 they’re going to have Alfie turkot picking his nose up on the uh I forgot about that on the sphere wall that was the moment we should have known his kid was going to be a bust wow there’s that all right more questions in the chat here as the draft hopefully gets started soon do we all have favorite ECHL teams yeah the too Walley McKenzie of course great question though sorry that uh the Ryan nose close-up cam is is gone Jack Chris Ripley says Jackson Hole is 100% real and a th% haunted is it haunted I don’t know Brad’s basement that’s where this podcast actually Brad’s podcast started in the kitchen and then it moved to the basement then it moved here which the uh oh are they boing them oh I can’t tell I’ll listen on my laptop Yep they’re booing them good for them they learned their lesson I hated the scarves and the most predictable thing happened with the scarves that they that they originally gave to Vegas for the cup they had an ad on them this year of course they were just showing off ad space Windsor Ontario Hometown great to see everyone okay more questions in the chat as they come up here Gary is up on stage being booed mirav chatan Jr wait did he actually name his son mirav seems like something he would do hell yeah I love well no pun intended but hell yeah my biggest regret in life is that I didn’t manifest chitan playing for New Jersey at some point yeah right Matt thank you for tuning in I really appreciate it folks almost 1,00 of you as the Draft starts the Red Wings have the 15th pick we’ve made our predictions we have our preferences we are no longer on Ryan close-up cam if you haven’t already give this stream a thumbs up and uh subscribe to the channel if you don’t I’ll I’ll go back to the close-up cam it’ll be uglier this time uh Aaron Jameson says speaking of ads what are the chances of no Jersey ads next season zero unless we make a billion dollars and we buy the ad space and leave it empty it’s zero the Canon worms has been opened uh super chat’s here reading out actually brph says beat thank you for the donation says beat the summer heat with a stay fresh cheese bag oh God all right Gary’s getting started the uh another annual tradition we have is reminding these two on either side that we are doing a live stream they got big TV in a restaurant syndrome and yes we do you can’t help but look away no it’s closer to an iPad child that’s actually are you saying that because of our bet no no that one’s that’s a formality okay is San Jose on the clock oh they’re on the clock oh I think I’m going to be right going be wrong oh my god I think I’m going to be right I don’t see a timer on the board Christ Church New Zealand oh amazing hell yeah okay let’s go praying for cat or helenus falling Benjamin I am very much on board with you all right any other draft thoughts on the prospects ahead as I take care of some stream stuff is there are are there like the lenos the bav those guys we talked about they’re all right yeah but that’s kind of where I’m at like I’m I’m lukewarm on them like not worth flipping a table if the Red Wings draft them but much deep Dives would be needed after to hopefully identify something we missed CU I just don’t see the upside there for 15th overall with those two I see the floor like high floor and I like their games and their compete 200 foot play yada ya y those are two guys that you know quote unquote would run through a wall for their team but yeah even even with the guys like mbn like you see the upside you you understand what it could be I have a harder time seeing it with them not that it’s not there but it’s middle six forwards who can play any situation would be the best case scenario it’s not I don’t want to say like it’s not the end of the world if if they go with someone that we haven’t talked about I actually think we haven’t talked enough about How likely that is I wouldn’t call it extremely likely like we’ve talked about quite a few people but it could be you know soberg it could be luchenko it could be B it could be lenko is not a bad pull actually you think about it he’s textbook eer tape which I mean you’re happy and we know how much they’ve picked out of they like their former G storm they had a whole line dedicated to him a couple years ago oh my God yeah I forgot about that okay is the pick not in yet I have two no I have two minutes for this to be wait do we say when the pick is in I’m correct no you it’s when they go up there the San Jose Sharks select mlin celebration they put it up there I am running out of time here oh they haven’t even walked up to the stage no and don’t forget Glenn say the retired so every team team is going to spend 30 minutes thanking him before their pick Bob Smith says uh we know Steve enjoys draft distractions he must really love this sphere this sphere thing someone could count bathroom breaks the amount of bong hits going on in the bathrooms at this place right now has got to be insane Jen Reed thank you so much for the the donation we miss you too sending love from Grand Rapids can’t wait to be back there Jen to see you and everyone else walking up run run you guys have 120 seconds they think less than two people you might nail this they’re not they’re thinking everyone they’re thinking everyone they’re going to do the in memorium it’s going to take forever Mike is going to think that than I thought though so oh and they’re super close to the stage that’s saving you too why she well yeah weird they’re standing in front of the podium H I was wrong no okay there was some guy sitting right under the mic there that just yell it is a pretty tight they talked a lot about the sphere and they’re like this is going to be awesome it’s not um meant for this exactly no it’s very tight yep someone’s literally wooing I can hear it oh he has to wait N9 seconds how do you know that cuz it’s he has to wait I’m looking at the clock now it’s 7:16 jumbo all right this rules for a first overall pick jumbo love it he’s got to go faster though he has 50 seconds 5- Z Dan had oh they’re not gonna ask him to talk too much man that’s a risk yeah remember when car price was up there hold on oh my God 716 on the dot I am a God yeah I would say you’re a God this is the great that is the greatest fold the show end it all we are that I’ve peaked I’ve recovered from Ryan closeup enough about you how hilarious was it how obvious it was that Joe Thorton spent three hours rehearsing that word for word he was he was focusing on every word there he was like I can’t do what Carrie Price did oh he well and he m cele is coming down on a zip line right now oh wait I said 717 yeah I don’t know what you’re talking about I thought I said I no I switched it to 76 yeah yeah yeah I switched it like but how immensely hung over is Joe Thorton right now he’s hiding it well he’s not hung over he’s staying Dr so The Hangover doesn’t kill him it’s it’s Vegas it’s Vegas yeah this from uh Nick shrift thank you so much for the donation says not from the NHL but another all-time great name is Will clap from the NFL that’s oh if you’re going in NFL that’s not even fair de brick AAW Ferguson is it what’s funnier e stick why it pisses me off every day I exist that he is not a hockey player mlin celebrini is oh another another substantial number 71 in the NHL m is going to be thrilled uh uh the Red Wings are going to pick Kon someone in the chat called said Ry or named Ry says please predict wings uh pick C and say it quick while you’re hot pan th uh says cheaters never win Ryan mods please ban him I agree that we should ban him ban you ban me brother don’t threaten me with when am I allow to open my beer should I wait that’s after what you did do it that’s up to you that’s up to you man it’s not getting colder in here break my computer thank you for the donation says send celebrini to Detroit for future considerations Mike drop from Stevie at pick 15 then pick it up and say I don’t know just talk [ __ ] about us for talking [ __ ] about the trade uh the stay for us cheese bag thing is a uh joke a running bit that happened when um it was like a a way to leave the room hey the beard didn’t go everywhere that our good friend Joseph fornier he uh put it in a patreon comment and it kind of just stuck with us also when we get into like the late stages of this draft stream I’ll I’ll bring my dogs in you guys will know Abby and Tully’s this will be your first time meeting him great Point Chris are they not doing the pick is in graphic this year no I guess not in this economy Brad yeah they spent all the money on the sphere they don’t have sphere you can’t see it cuz you’re at home are we thinking guaranteed Le Shin off guaranteed no but there’s all the Insiders seem to have been predicting that for the last couple hours so there’s enough smoke that yeah if you’re a betting person you’re probably comfortable laying down some money on it I think I I think the boo to Anaheim makes the most sense to me of all the noise I’ve heard around them I think that one is like the one I believe the most I love the seneki rumor cuz maximum chaos plus like I really need someone to say his name out loud like in a professional setting like this so I can figure it out yeah sen Sena peric perek there’s too many of these yes and like normally if you watch enough of broadcasts and like highlights you can pick it up but I hear both for everybody all right M celini was a junior shark is that like just like a back to the Bay Area like this is he was a baby shark oh he was left shark at the Super Bowl wow yeah what a career already I know uh Evan check your messages uh Eric vanck says thoughts on the new Ducks jerseys also would love to see a purple version of those I love when teams lean into color yeah I I would have preferred I would have preferred I think for both LA and the Ducks to go with their purple version of those jerseys but I’m happy they just changed it their old the logos and things that they picked is are better San Jose when they went to the teal pants big upgrade when Colorado went to the blue pants big upgrade Anaheim like not only going orange jerseys but like orange bucket orange pants like hell yeah we need more color someone did a mockup if Dallas did it with green their uniform immediately impres 20 improves by 200% I like the Dallas mock like and the traditionalists say oh it looks weird in the NHL it’s like my guy there’s been a team since the 19 like 20s that has been all red like yeah it’s f it works it’s also funny is like someone said what what would you have done if like the Red Wings were a new team and that was their name and logo now everyone would be like that’s an that’s the stupidest like there’s so many team the logo rocks the logo rocks but like what is that oh it’s yeah I I couldn’t tell you well it it we know the the origin of it from the wing wheel and the Athletic Club in Montreal yeah yeah but the there’s so many names that people are like oh that’s dumb what even is that but it’s like the history behind it will eventually lead you to like and I like even the Maple Leafs one makes me laugh because you trace it back to the it had something to do with what a unit in the Canadian military or something like that but like but then they just misspelled it uh John Helm Camp says thank you for the donation says what’s up boys no question here just want to tell you that you guys always crush it and I’m excited to see another draft covered by the best John really really appr appreciate it thank you so very much stoy 70 thank you so much for the generous donation as well you guys are all being uh incredible to us how many do we have in here now that the draft is started 1900 pushing 2,000 already which is awesome we’re still 13 picks away from the Red Wings welcome all of you to the wind wheel podcast annual did Ma cell Brady live in Steve Nash’s house I think that’s what I’m hearing right now I think there was something with them cuz his dad works in basketball so it makes sense that’s so bizarre his dad works for the Golden State Warriors yeah but that’s still so bizarre yeah it’s just so hard to see these Rags to Riches stories at number one he’s it’s not his fault no he’s a great player I Know Rich every hockey player is Rich every hockey player every hockey player who’s good is rich in the NHL in the NHL yes yes I meant what I said I’ll talk my [ __ ] I was going to say I’m like mik’s doing all right we ain’t Rich mik’s mik will be rich M will be richer than you I need the pwhl to thrive it’s my retirement plan stoy 7s uh tuning in from Phoenix Arizona soon Prague czechia if we get trouba can we sign shy yeah that’d be a great that offsets I would I really don’t want to see demidov with Bedard yeah I don’t either I don’t either no I don’t want anything good to happen to Chicago they already have too many good things that have happened to them what do you call it more likely this is actually a good comment here uh more like likely for the Red Wings to D to trade down or up down down is always more likely but even if you handicap it I still think trading down there’s just even though I think New Jersey would move Buffalo already did move yeah I would prefer they trade up because of the they need more premium not quantity but yeah uh Chuck the doggies are uh a little espresso depressor right now because uh Mel is not here currently and so they’re mad at me for that here you go Ryan sh Chicago walking to the stage oh yeah they are like right on top of the stage eh yeah I think it’s Le shov I think it’s le shov as well yeah someone saw Kyle Davidson and David Thor is like oh it’s a guy from the YouTube video first of all I’d like to thank blah blah blah blah blah we’re behind so as usual we won’t check the chat for the Red Wings picks I don’t mind these ones getting swelled don’t say shut up rad people will watch they you want to turn the volume up there not too much no no oh bedy someone would say Hawk Legend hey wait they were allowed to pick bzy two years in a row feels inefficient well he’s good enough where it’s justifiable Fair sweet suit black shirts Chicago select Le shof oh as expected I I think it’s cool to have the the previous first overall pick draft his I think that’s really cool nobody wants to see Executives making picks like good well that’s why I’m excited for the draft next year is like with this not being one location you’re going to have to have like assign someone to make the pick oh my God oh my God are they going to do bman announcing all the picks like no no I thought they already said it would be like a team would select a representative or something like that good I’ll do it please I can’t wait I can’t wait for the routings pick and to just watch like Eminem or Kid Rock go up there uh because of Evan lob singer’s unruly comments we’ve had to cancel this live broadcast with the NHL draft we’ll update it in a ticker below Le shov he’s an alltime guy like he is just a hilarious dude an ABS yeah an absolute dude yeah First Team all all dude great like really natural in front of the cameras not nervous and it’s hard for those kids too the dude is already ped hey man we all go through it I trade what little remaining hair I had left for his both his height and talent oh wow you do get a little depressed seeing the ad on the draft Jersey huh I don’t know why I expected anything different what’s going on with that draft hat are those Fanatics jerseys the yeah that’s a Fanatics Jersey the jerseys actually look good like the Fanatics jerseys they’re made in the same factories the Adidas ones were like for now they look good they’re going to go to their own factories eventually and then the concern sets in are they really really I thought I heard something like that yeah I hope they never do the hats those hats are terrible is this a hat for ants five hairs for all that Ryan DF God I’m getting cooked in the chat oh that’s a big hit left shoov as a prospect who’s Chicago getting oh they’re getting a a guy who can do it all if you want a top pairing defenseman he better be able to play on your power play he better be able to play on your PK throw him out a minute left in a close game and that’s what he is he’s probably more offensively driven than defensively driven but with his skill set and size a little bit of refining and he should have a tremendous defensive game it’s already like good it’s not bad is that the pick considering what Chicago has and needs is that the pick you would have made I would have still W demidov but this is perfectly justifiable because although to be fair he’s my second ranked defenseman I do like Boo him more but like we’re splitting hairs at that point is boam next to the Ducks oh they updated logo looks sick man that’s nice it’s sick yeah I I’m pretty sure they could never go back to their ogs because of some like copyright or legal issues I think I remember reading way back when but if they can get like that close hell yeah yeah I I I don’t mind at all that they’re getting that they’re at least doing some color even if it’s not the the egg not enough Orange in hockey it’s hard to pull off I mean they tried Phil been doing it forever and they’re are well they actually changed their shade of orange like every three years okay so next pick here what are you doing if you’re Anaheim what would I be doing if I was Anaheim again they don’t need another forward but T do is my best player available I think they’d be best served going for a defenseman like you look at their team and their system they are loaded with forwards like they just traded away Dale what do they have left on the blue line beyond mikov for the foreseeable future right I’d go boo personally if I were Anaheim obviously then any of the defense top six defensemen would be somewhat justifiable here between salv or per Dickinson yakam chuck whatever boam would be my pick there’s been a lot of smoke around seneki I could like Lindstrom and demidov would be perfectly justifiable salv is just such a fascinating pick too because of what he could be it’s hard to pass over the other guys there like but he really is a fascinating pick I I don’t think personally I could pass over you know demidov boam Etc but in a weaker draft s would be guaranteed guaranteed yeah do you think he can turn into Chara or is he Tyler Meers that’s that’s the question with Salia who was also off the board by the way Tyler Meers resigned was it 3 by3 over 3 by3 yeah not terrible it’s fine yep if the Red Wings didn’t have the depth defensive contracts that they had I would have been happy with that yeah same but wow that looks cool okay we have oh we hit the 2,000 Mark in the Stream 2,000 viewers Welcome All of You 2024 ell draft is underway we are on pick three we are going to be covering obviously all all the picks as they come it’ll be a little while before the prospective red WIS picks come off the board who is that Grabowski grabo is always doing content he does a lot of content for sportset too oh yeah he’s good friends with speaking of all time speaking of all time dudes yeah grab’s great I don’t know if that was him look like him I mean there’s a grabovski jersey behind him it’s probably a decent name maybe he’s just like a super fan you mean how many other players have worn number 84 yeah that’s a great point with all due respect to Gom Laton dress if if you guys if there’s 2,000 of you in here if you guys are enjoying this please consider subscribing to the channel we just passed 10,000 subscribers and also like the stream it is a big help CCL thank you for being the 2000th viewer the first truly Wild Card pick of the draft here yeah we’ll see what Anaheim does they are up on the stage they’ll be thanking everyone in just a moment they’re just thinking they’re doing their pleasantries and things like that Eisman drafting Eisman would be a lot of fun Brad they’re thanking people they’re not going to be Pi but they’re going to eventually start making a pick I’m using my bad ears can you turn it up just to touch I have I know what the pick is yeah I know you’ve got the chat in front of you no no I didn’t even get it from the chat I got it from the NHL live tracker what are your predictions saky what are your what’s your prediction Evan I already know what it is oh okay well Brad will’ll see if your predictions right senica senica okay sen Swit was going with senica oh he’s shocked immediately an all time dude just for that stood up and went what the [ __ ] I thought he said holy but either way it was one of the two good good for you kid I love it look I don’t care about nhle that is a like would I have made that pick no but I think that kid has a ton of upid he’s sick there are going to be dude that’s the best reaction since cider yeah yes yes okay here’s the thing though if you’re a Ducks fan and the Ducks are going forward and they go not demidov look senica is about as good as like senica K like that’s as good as you could hope for but ooh I don’t know if I do that I mean for me he’s not the best player or best forward available at that position maybe he had a very strong interview he did have maybe he had a very impressive second half of the year yeah I don’t know not my wouldn’t be my pick look here’s the thing can they really do they really want him and zis on the team just ship zis out to Detroit exactly there are a lot between the social media G just said the same thing got to got to before me oh man seen that Jersey like live that is sick yeah that’s a great Jersey oh man okay if you’re if that’s the Red Wings at that pick and they go Sena I don’t know that like i’ be okay with it again not preferred pick but man he’s a 6 foot three dude with like you’re basically making this pick that’s nice he’s only 6’2 6’2 but basically 62 in three quarters it says three quarters right there yeah it doesn’t count girl we know Guy Rules you’rein a quarter you round up that’s like I told everyone I was 5’10 cuz I was 5’9 and a half yeah you round out so he’s 63 like you’re hoping this is like Astros almost you’re basically making this pick because you think he could be Tage Thompson that’s that’s what you’re looking for here and if he is oh but demidov is there man I listen how many times does someone like demov fall down the board and we’re all wondering why he falls down the board year that literally happened last year well we knew there was circumstance around that but it’s like and then they always end up being sick and it’s like ah well nevertheless maybe next year teams will learn their lesson and they never do now Columbus is interesting because they already have a metric ton of Russians on their team they are not scared Russian who sorry Columbus oh yeah hey who mocked them and our mock who mocked them taking demit off did you I’m surpris you remember that how do you remember that you have no memory because I’m oh my God you did I know I know the year of lobster Damas is back baby are you oh don’t you cuz you lost that title I know it was the year of Krishna oh my God how far does demidov fall before you’re banging this table go and call Pick Up The Phone Stevie like if I were the GM now we’re there how many digits into the phone number have you put in one digit two digits right now it’s ringing if I’m the GM of the I’m calling 911 and ask me to dispatch uh Blake lster says have we heard more about Connelly today no nothing specific um any reason it’s just the upside it’s just the the T the upside and how late that upsite might be be available and with how much Detroit needs high-end oh the parents parents nearly jumped out of their seats look at that’s a nice moment oh that’s a nice moment that’s GNA be you one day in the pwhl Brad but it’s not going to be surprising because M’s going first say I will yeah also when M gets picked at the pwhl draft it’s going to be you Crystal ma Hank and then me and Evan full like loaded by that point in the draft on TV GoPros on our heads okay uh for all of you who made donations I got a clear gift here he definitely said what the Yeah extremely generous uh Evan Evan Weber Ryan wman who’s Brad’s look Alik Gollum just too much hair for Gollum Brad with my my hairline is gollem uh who’s the shortest Play Tyler Enis yeah with my long blonde flow yeah well close enough I wish I had his jawline come on now uh teimo reapy says Brad why were you so reactionary about trading our seventh defenseman in a throwaway second round D Man pick appreciate your work on the show Lads keep it up I love any comments stoking a Rea a brad reaction I wasn’t even fully listening to you that’s fair it was just I had a reaction to something that happened in the past yeah that that tracks yeah that is I also love I can’t believe I’m about to say these words I love the Brad self-awareness of like talking to Brad it’s like yeah you know I knew I was overreacting the moment and then I settle down later and then I get to my rational thoughts I’m like oh oh yeah oh Brad does kind of look like Sam G someone suggested that in the chat oh my God yeah that’s not bad Columbus Blue Jackets on the clock all right well now every now that every Mock’s been thrown for a loop thanks to Anaheim oh they’re walking to the stage I can’t watch the chat again I made that mistake no yeah all right yeah I I don’t I don’t like when things get spoiled like I like like when Frank zali ruined the the draft lottery like it wasn’t the draft Lotter it was the expansion draft wasn’t it oh yeah the day of the last and of course the last one to get leaked was Detroit yeah of course Lou larella was probably so jealous so the pick isn’t in on the jackets tracker yet so I’ll tell you when we’re on pick warning Brad cuz it that’ll be a little bit behind what I have here I’m going to assume it’s when Rick Nash gets to the mic yeah that’s fair enough here we go oh God hopefully this is not a David reinbacher incident oh my God oh my God Kaden Lindstrom that’s a good pack okay so I’m not saying oh my God because that’s a bad pick I’m saying no zeve no demov we I think the most mocked pick I seen demidov was five to Montreal it makes sense yeah it makes sense now I didn’t have senica there I it was other players at three but yeah demidov de Montreal has been pretty consistent now if he gets past Montreal stuff’s going to start going wacky all right guys and we know how much Utah loves the Russians in the draft they took two in the first round last year um just want to take a moment here saying uh pray for Kaden lindström nothing’s wrong with him he just has to move to Ohio now so great point just to all of our Ohio listen I saw a bunch of people Ohio I’m just giving you a hard time it’s okay and we’ll do it again yes that’s that’s the beauty between between Michigan and Ohio and it’s like how I make fun of chadam Ontario yeah there’s some chatam people in the chat and I love the response it’s like hey what the hell I mean you’re right but what the hell uncalled for yeah there’s something like super interesting about Rick Nash picking Kaden Lindstrom who there is a comparable there yes strong comparison between the two they’re about the same height too yeah oh my God I I guess it’s just like the era of hockey we grew up with but you can’t help it be like infatuated with the idea of a true power forward in the game I always root for guys who could turn into that because there’s just so few of them right yeah well Kaden Lindstrom literally looks like a grown ass man so there’s any anyone who could become a true power forward in the NHL out of this draft it would be him Montreal demidov is guaranteed right it has to I don’t think it’s guaranteed I think they’re going to take a long hard look at boam here at least I mean they should I would still take demidov but their fans want demidov in a bad bad way yeah they’re like the thing is with their defense they have a lot of them but they don’t have anybody Elite all respect to Ry passing up on the highly talented Russian to take a defenseman Again Brad they’re going to turn burn down this city they’ve done it before that’s what I’m saying Ryan berer and boam different players I think I think if there was a French Canadian Superstar there that they passed on then yes they would burn down this city I think if they pass on demidov here only one taxi will get flipped just one that’s a Tuesday yeah exactly that’s my point oh God Montreal taking katten I actually don’t hate katton to Montreal yeah they they they have such a large forward group it makes a lot of sense I would still do it or consider it first four picks one defenseman taken it might be first five picks one defenseman taken that that’s shocking right Utah could use a defenseman Ottawa could use a defenseman Seattle definitely could use a defenseman Calgary could use a defenseman New Jersey could use a defenseman San Jose definitely needs a defenseman like there’s going to be the run here we’re entering and we’re also entering TJ ginla watch yeah I’m not saying all those teams will take defenseman because the draft is never that predictable but the run is coming and if it doesn’t that could be very good for Detroit all right next up on the board is Montreal at fifth overall then Utah sixth Ottawa seventh please no demidov to Ottawa the way this week’s been going there’s a very strong chance eight Seattle 9th Calgary 10th New Jersey then San Jose as 11th they got that from Buffalo is TJ ginla making it to Calgary at nine I think so right now I think so with the way things are going yeah I think he makes it what if he goes five that’d be great it’ be fun it’ be funny to see Montreal’s reactions oh yeah because not on his head oh he can’t you don’t know how kids wear their hats these days no it looks normal from the front but either way if if tjin goes to Montreal here two Canadian fan bases get pissed off and that would be mendous content yes 2300 of you in here thank you all so very much for tuning in if you haven’t already give the thumbs up on the stream And subscribe to the channel we are going to be posting a 2024 NHL draft review episode right after day two is done and if you want to go above and beyond and support the wi whe podcast join our patreon you get not only bonus episodes and giveaways and the Discord access but you also we do our day two draft hangout where we cover rounds 2 through S uh with all of us here running list of picks on the screen I can try to do that yeah let me put that together here as Brad and Evan take away some commentary this better not be demidov I just want him out of division I understand he’s not getting to Detroit and Detroit’s not going to trade up for him so please just send him West that too much to ask judging by their faces it appears like they’re deliberating who they’re going to take there’s no way teams wouldn’t have their list set in Stone by now and mocked every scenario I understand how incompetent some front officers are but Gorton and Hughes don’t strike me as the type to be that unprepared like they’ve probably done a million scenarios and unless they were dead set on senica right now like they know who they want like you got to think for any team that didn’t make the playoffs this is all you’ve been doing for the last two months is hypothetical that just means your homework is due so much later you don’t need to worry about it yes which team is the biggest procrastinators Brad when you when you went to college were you a procrastinator or do you oh 100% so we weren’t very different students then no shocker for all of us no depending on the class I had a tradition of all right they’re going on I sit down at the kitchen table with like once I moved out with a six-pack and basically went I’m not moving till I finish one of these two things it didn’t go well I I passed but like you got your you got your by 4 a.m. like there were a lot of bad vibes yeah all right Montreal’s going up I could see this is the first pick where I see a lot of range of outomes I still predict demod off this is where the table really starts to get set like they got to right he’s so good okay we only needed one language they’re Kent Hughes is getting booed good Carrie Price Carri price oh oh hell sel’s coming up they should have brought they should have brought Carri price up yes I love this she’s like a hero in Las Vegas too who has the most complicated name please pick them right now is there any any french uh top prospects I don’t think so no bad year for the Quebec League what are you doing here she’s the best good for her I still think they should they should have given Carrie Price the option to to redeem redeem himself and he doubles down and screws up again best possible outcome best possible outcome all right chat remind me in an hour to go feed the dogs let me hear how how much she’s going to nail this demod is okay for her to say all right Seline I like how they gave her a piece of paper sing the pick oh she’s the best just say demidov slen here we go today Selen oh my God damn it do damn it uh oh damad do damad it really has been a bad week for red wi look how happy those Habs fans are no [ __ ] I’d be doing back flips right now can you do a backflip is there water behind that is the most iPad k thing I’ve ever heard yes can you oh well this is bad news why well he’s in our division D is now in the I wasn’t sure if you’re talking about this or so you look down at your computer I thought so everything nice I said about demidov leading up to the draft it’s all null and void because he’s been playing against children for the last two years so he’s probably terrible right yeah uh Al roads Jr thank you for the donation says when do the LA bats come out boys again we we’ll wait we’ll see what happens after pick 15 we’ll see what what what goes on from there yeah EJ emry at 15 I’ll need a couple Utah is pretty pissed off right now yeah although they I don’t think they expected demov to get to six right this will be Z it has to be Z Bo for them that it’ll be a defenseman for them they need a defenseman boam is by far the best one still available I here’s the thing though four of them are like sorry five of the premium defensemen are still available four forwards in the top five in the defense draft Dan Campbell coming out for Marshall mats yeah Danny Cale or Eminem coming up for Detroit it’ll just be eisan or or yeah I I love our our team but like our organization is not the most creative when it comes to stuff like that like seriously though we need to repeat how how much it ruled that Selene Dion came out in an NHL draft to make a pick i hav d but I was like who is this oh no now we got to watch Ian demidov highlights this is great he where’s number 11 too such an elite number one more time who demidov as a player how talented could he be maybe the most skilled offensive player in the draft sick hands good not great skater unbelievably creative great vision Wicked shot like yeah not the most complete 200 foot player in the world but if he’s going to shovel in 90 points a year I don’t think they’re going to Care all that much like look at that highlight that’s sick like come on how did he go five yeah that’s a great pick I’m pissed at Chicago and an feels like he’s doing a bit of the Shane wri walk right now kind of looking around at at teams good do it Shane Wright’s still in the AHL so Gallagher is gonna have to retire though they got demov needs his number yeah uh Paul krackin thank you so much for the donation yeah damad will be the title of the episode the first time he has an OT winner against us yeah it was fun it was fun while it lasted okay so not nine not that I’m happy like that just seemed insane like to for him to go that far would have been nuts yeah I I trust pman more than other insiders with the inside information on draft stuff but that one I couldn’t wrap my head around I think that’s just Montreal running like they just run smok in mirrors it could be yeah like fredman’s favorite lie in the last couple weeks hey draft time everybody lies that’s right no one’s telling the truth but and so said this in their presser why would they say anything other than that yeah yeah we uh every GM right now yeah there’s a lot of defenseman in this draft we really like a lot of forwards too and you know we we’re going to have to look at the state of our team and we’ll just end up taking best player available because every team will say that even if it’s positional need timd demod yeah damad Ivana jump off off the cliff all right who’s going to Utah I think booya makes the most sense here yeah salv when is it considered a fall ah salv is interesting actually like ottawa’s got to be happy with all these def falling right yes yeah they’ll have their pick oto’s taken s Calgary’s probably thrilled because I would think the next next three picks are going to be D it’s going to go boam Ottawa is going to take tjla Calgary is GNA be mad at that Seattle Katen in Seattle does that make sense I think Seattle needs defense yeah yeah and and again look who’s falling they’re going to get one of them if they so choose does anyone of these like top 10 consensus picks do you see like do you see any of them falling deep like I don’t mean to like 12 or 13 I mean like 19 20 perre yakam Chuck wouldn’t it would be shocking but it’s like not the craziest thing I’ve ever heard if that makes sense I don’t think either of them gets past like 13 but I mean can’t rule anything out I think Cole Eiserman falling super late like into the 20s would be shocking I know he’s not like a consensus top 10 pick but seeing him drop that far would be very surprising to me Val Boyd thank you for the donation says cheers boys cheers Val all right and the first pick in the history of the Utah HC Utah here’s my thing yetis okay you don’t want to pick purple from from the Utah Jazz whatever how are you just going to pick the Kraken colors cracking colors this is like University of main colors light blue like North Carolina they are the Tar Heels the Utah tar it’s not bad first off F shut up Gary they’re they’re booing Gary again I think them why does he need to talk right now yep they are absolutely booing Gary Batman we submitted our pick via qualtrix and then the system crashed sorry this will be a few minutes someone said he’s that the owner is dressed like Elon and he is look at him that is the most oh is that yeah you’re not wrong that all right that’s a big dude oh it’s Ryan Smith’s birthday too oh yeah here we go what did he just say can’t boo us we haven’t even done anything yet and they’re booing him I love it all right that’s a phen Al intro I think they’re going to make a fun pick yeah you can see the chat no I haven’t looked will oh let’s go that’s a fun pick oh my God that’s a very fun pick the defenseman though they’re falling who cares defenseman from defenseman yeah defenseman are overrated I’m this is my type of draft Calgary seething right now should have traded up oh man I love that pick so much good for them good for them tjla all right is that Ryan Smith going full villain Arc in 10 seconds on the stage I love it g phaser thank you so much for Utah’s in the same division as Calgary yeah they’re they’re in the west if my laptop wasn’t so slow I could confirm that for you late to the party uh your opinions on the biggest needs for the wings and your picks to fill them so biggest needs for their wings points offense full stop do not care if it’s left wing right wing or Center we need someone who can put some points on the board they are not Bradley they are in the Central Division I don’t know if they’re going to do realign anything but they’re in the central boo oh man Calgary has to be seething right now yakimchuk still I mean that’s the thing Calgary has a bigger need at defense by a lot like you could argue Utah just did him a favor well they need a lot of things though there’s a have to come in a certain order no but now they’re GNA have one of yakimchuk perk Dickinson or salv for sure or yeah boam Dickinson salv perek yakimchuk all still sitting there and they three picks away uh and who are your biggest uh who are your picks to fill those needs any player who can put up highend off like example if if Kat Falls if you think helenius will produce if you think ha or Eisman will produce if you think mbn has enough offense to produce yeah they all fit the the bill yeah if you want to go tiebreaker to the best 200 foot player if you think the offensive ceiling is equivalent sure great but go go nuts but this team is going to be struggling for goals in the future as it as their organization stands right now all right let me update the tracker here the run on defenseman when I was going to say five forwards in the first six picks even that is truly surprising to me yeah hey Utah just going for that name recognition last time in Ain played in Utah it went pretty well I’m just saying nice pull Brad that’s great for a second I was like what and then I remember Salt Lake City yeah I was going to say making a reference from 2 two years ago that’s yeah yeah everybody’s going to get that right oh God I just went to nobody has anybody tweeted that yet I should tweet okay TJ ginla so next up we have Ottawa Ottawa has some options here you’re right Brad they’re going to be happy with all these defenseman available I hate that boam is going to Ottawa I hate that with a passion do you think it’s boam I hope not I kind of got a Dickinson Vibe uh I would prefer they take him over Salia ever buam okay chat what do you feel about the scrolling ticker style uh I just put in for the draft tracker tell me if you like this I can’t tell if it’s good or not boo I I think would be the better pick I I just feel like Dickinson’s not going that low when are these defenseman going to go has to be now this is crazy Ottawa like their D sucks right and they’re going to lose chck they have Sanderson Shabbat and Sanderson Shabbat boo would be really nice okay so again Ottawa is on the clock Seattle after them then Calgary and then New Jersey a lot of teams have talked about being okay with moving trading we haven’t seen any big trades like right now on the actual draft floor I still wonder if New Jersey hangs on to it the pick I think they are like someone would have to absolutely knock their socks off with a pick and like what would New Jersey want of who’s available that they would immediately say yes for for 10th overall like marrom wasn’t even good enough for that you know what I mean yeah it those kinds of Trades they always have to be like a pics trade like you don’t you always have other picks going the other way right trade down Detroit yeah maybe boam Ken yeah all right I got a suggestion to make the uh the ticker go below so let me know how this looks with the ticker at the bottom here I moved everything up a little bit who is Ottawa I do think boam it makes way too much sense and that sucks with shy boam in Detroit and the better boam in Ottawa and they don’t have Dorian anymore so I can’t expect them to do something hilariously dumb I don’t know if I don’t know if stos is any good but I mean he fleeced Boston this week already so I don’t think it’s a fleece I think it would have been a fleece with an extension but he did make a great move overall by getting they got all Mark and unloaded Corpus Salis contract that’s a tidy piece of work sorry if I missed any donations here appreciate all of you otta is going up on the stage their pick is not yet in so we don’t have to worry about them reading it out yet oh man you know what I’m just happy it’s not demidov I can’t complain because that would be like if Ottawa walked away with potentially the top pick in the like most talented player in the draft or top two that would suck yes it’s already bad enough that he’s in division the Atlantic’s a Thunderdome man come on Ottawa you’re in Ontario you don’t need to do it in two languages Brad I’m telling you it’s not even done on the tracker they’re not picking yet you’re good good wow Yak Chuck okay it’s in on the track right now wow okay like that understandable not the defenseman I would have picked wow they did they did have a bigger need on the right side I’ll give him that man Calgary is getting Salia veram they’re they’re gonna forget about ainla very soon yep that’s fine yeah boam is massive for Calgary if he gets there I think I think seatt taking him here yeah that makes that makes way too much sense for Seattle right yes it does Seattle yes and you know what the offense is added to what if Seattle takes perck that’d be fun that would be fun it’s big swing frequency says okay guys I’m here we can start the draft now sorry I’m late we are all waiting for you man uh yakam Chuck who is he as a player and why would he why did he fall down the board when some had him going higher I think this is higher than was expecting him to go me too who is he as a prospect he’s huge very unathletic for a top 10 pick as we learned at the combine like big douge Hamilton Vibes you know tall goofy lanky sick offensive mind you know competes hard I mean I can’t repeat it up dude scored 30 goals as a defenseman in the WHL that’s insane now there was about five other players I would have been upset more if Ottawa picked so like I’m a okay with this but he’s he’s a stud he’s going to be good and he’s like what 63 he is huge so you got a six fo three defenseman with that kind of offense like C again Calgary’s not mad but they’re definitely not happy yeaha and yakob Chuck off the board they can’t even go for the hometown Vibes in any way Conor 105 thank you for the donation says Berkeley Kon he’s falling yeah yeah when are you calling I think I think he’s going to Philly you think so I think Philly because as much as he makes sense for New Jersey I I struggle to see them taking another small forward even though they should I could see Seattle doing it if we’re being honest I mean he’s so good I could see any of these teams doing it really yep but I I I see a string of Defense needy teams coming up and then Philly uh hackin Alabama thank you for the donation also says Katen gets uh where before you’re calling 10 nine 10 10 probably JM rapsy thank you for the donation says There goes my pick I did my mock based on the names Mick would be most likely to butcher who’s left who in the category that it is reasonable uh Cole Eiserman because you know he’d accidentally call him Steve a dozen times a year yes oh God yes he would Seattle cracking on the clock uh oh mbn would be a nightmare for him thing is like is he just gonna go cloy by bran egg I would think knard Carter yakimchuk Zane perck oh look at the kitchen AR Ranger on there Ryan Murphy Hey bow and bym on the screen byra mentioned that’s good Juju for us there you go okay how’s Chris Russell scored 26 goals in the WHL what so the floor is Chris Russell scoring scoring uh goals to stoping him 14 14 empty Nets when’s uh future considerations getting drafted that’s a great Point okay here’s my thing with Sam Dickinson just he’s he’s he’s viewed as too complete and safe of a pick you know I don’t know I think there’s risk in his game who did you say R yeah I don’t think he’s great Under Pressure yeah there’s risk with Dickinson I’m not as sold on he was my I think fifth out of the top six defenseman no no but I’m saying I think that’s what his draft stock is like General consensus yeah well he’s the exact type of defenseman that NHL GMS drool over you know what I mean the 200 foot enough offense to really keep you happy skates well big like seven picks in only two defenseman taken if we said that yesterday would you have said shocked or no I would bit shocked no surprised yes dude this senica reaction is still that’s got to be the highlight of the draft his parents too that was hysterical four nations face off it’s weird marshand was one of the six right yeah like he was GNA be on the team no matter what Captain’s thing I think it’s like a respect thing yeah I could see that I I did see all four of those team uh six players for each team get released today MH and I found it hilarious in the online reaction how little people cared oh like we’re hocked out right now yeah like a you didn’t give us what we wanted and be was now really the time to release it like it’s a slow week in the NHL Brad uh we need a little bit of content to keep people engag got got to get something to the front of Mind are s fans mad right now at that pick I wouldn’t be thrilled I wouldn’t either it was their biggest position of need that’s probably the oh okay we needed a right-handed D pretty badly Mak I don’t think you can be angry but I think it’s going to be really tough to watch Steve boam play oh again not my preferred pick but that’s going to happen with Detroit I know who I’m going to want they’re not going to take him but they’re going to take another guy that I’m like yeah he’s good I’m fine Seattle’s pick is in this has to be boo it makes too much sense for them all right as we get ready for this 2350 of you in here thank you all so much for joining our annual live stream if you’re not already subscribe to the channel we passed 10K subscribers today which is we’re massively grateful for it and and give the thumbs up to the stream it is huge huge huge for us when you guys do that bers and boam kind of look alike eh you think they’re doing this on purpose maybe maybe you might be on to something bro the Red Wings are desperately seeing what shy boam is doing right now how quickly can you get on a flight oh my God I told you they were a good fit for Kon they were I thought they needed a defense B more but that’s a that’s really you know what we should have seen Seattle Spokan it’s right there they probably watched him more than anybody else this year that’s a good pick man I like that pick a great pick it was always a pipe dream for Ken it just wasn’t happening the defense Pi my God another forward oh my God Red Wings might be forced to take a defenseman here we might be getting perer Dickinson here we’re going to be drafting salv how do you feel about it wow two defensemen that is calary New Jersey and St Jose have to be taking them right this has got to be St Jose’s dream because that was the theory why they traded up to 11 because they figured one of the six would get there Calgary has to I say Calgary Dickinson that’s my prediction uh Calgary Bo forget K when does Detroit start calling up for boam I’d be getting close I’m sorry is Brad Chrisco right now saying trade up for a defenseman in this draft one of the elite offensive defenseman yes this the team needs offense provides a lot of it at least the area codes in the phone number now for for boam oh yeah M like he was my third rated Prospect and he’s sitting there at nine like well it looks like you’re an idiot not yet cuz I think he’s still going to be sick this is crazy absolutely crazy uh I’m missing these requests if do you guys want something else on the screen did you want our pick back on the screen I just didn’t want to clutter it at least uh Kon went West or stayed West I should say like look at that that’s sick he’s a talented player man the only downside about him is he where’s number 34 yeah because his favorite player growing up was Austin Matthews large how’s it how’s it going man good to see you thank you for joining from uh the obsa region in Sweden all right let’s get our predictions back on here man I knew this top 10 wasn’t going to be predictable but I didn’t see any scenarios like this I didn’t I thought soberg is soberg the next defenseman taken could you imagine see here’s the thing that’s going to conflict me is there’s going to be a really good defenseman there at 15 for the Red Wings now like there’s no way they’re going we’re they’re going five in a row right who are you okay Sal’s on the board are you taking him over h no it’d be hard not to I mean me saying no is like counter to my whole point of like swinging on like high upside at this point yeah but I really want to forward at the end of the day will salves you know produce as much as a forward at that position in the draft but you put salive and cider together that’s 21t of defenseman when you’re trying to cross the blue line and like mean defenseman yeah and that’s a Steve Eiserman type pick right like there’s if salia’s there there’s no reality Detroit isn’t taking him Christian colos thank you so much for the donation this is nuts I love it though agreed this is fun all of you have donated thank you very much this is uh this is for entertainment value a great draft not going well for Detroit so far but CU oh man all the Fords that we thought maybe te Falls maybe Katon Falls if Calgary takes zeve we might be back on track if they don’t take Z all we need Calgary and New Jersey to take two of the defenseman and sand is going to take one of the defensemen like those are three very defense not okay New Jersey is not needy on anything but I think they have a bigger need for defense like Calgary and San Jose need defenseman all right Calgary is is still on the clock they’re not even approach they’re just waiting what are they waiting it out for they want trying to figure out if there’s another ainla kid only only had one son Gary we ask you to resend the ainla pick on what grounds it’s devastating to my case you’re going theour that’s a depressing graphic right there yeah I wouldn’t be putting that one up you see n nasm kadri’s being shopped that contract going to be like kadri’s good still but that’s going to be a tough contract to move can you yeah I almost thought are they going to retain on him but Calgary is notorious for not wanting to retain and for what he’s got five six years left or something like that nobody’s retaining that long San Jose did it on Hurdle retain but that San Jose hasn’t they’ve made like one good trade we don’t talk about it shut up it’s because I was talking about how many bad moves Greer made that that trade happened yeah we kind of what’s the re reverse manifest yeah yeah we were tempting the hockey Gods too much who else have we been criticizing too much we’ve criticized conr a lot so who do you want the Red Wings to take the most because they’re going right now God I want I really want them to take soberg is what I want this that would be the dream all right predictions Dickinson strikes me as a Calgary type I say boam yeah I like the Dickinson pick as well a little bit more of a meat and potatoes real Alberto boy kind of energy just saw the pick okay well R can’t talk now interesting Zane perek okay don’t hate that pick High upside swing yep I like it when you’re starting a rebuild take your swings don’t take your safe picks I’m I’m I like that pick for Calgary Brad uh with a super chat donation thank you so much Brad says can we manage a Salia cider and Edinson Axel sandan pel cap yeah sure Cap’s going up if you pay if you pay them by the foot we might be in trouble but sandine bellica balances out a little bit my God should you play for the Red Wings they might if it get by the foot no they should have grabbed ma for a couple more years yeah she’s still only like 4 foot2 like she’d be down right cheap oh so just another inch before she’s more expensive than you yeah like zaye per okay uh who’s perek as a prospect and why is this a swing it’s not crazy to think he could be in the Eric Carlson tier it’s not again ceiling versus likelihood of panning out etc etc etc like the dude scored 33 goals almost 100 points this year 17-year-old shoots right which is always at a premium I mean his defensive game isn’t bad in the sense that he competes it’s not like he just gives up on defense but it needs a lot of work work he tends to be Reckless at times as a lot of highly gifted offensive defensemen do but man is he skilled creative smart like all things are possible when the puck is on his stick you think of the criticisms of Quinn Hughes and I think they’re Fair like what the deficiencies are in the defensive Zone but in the modern NHL for a defenseman who can just get to serviceable or at least where where it’s heavily the ice is heavily tilted in your favor with the puck on your stick like it or not that’s what the modern NHL is so offensive defenseman can Thrive I grew up watching and appreciating defenseman who could do it both ways perfectly but that’s just not the nature of the game so I think this is the era where the Quinn Hughes the perx those types make sense to risk on not every time but like some guys all you need to watch is a highlight pack to go oh yeah I get it okay he’s one of those guys I just look at this comment from Jonathan B can you imagine San Jose walks away with celebrini and boam thank goodness they’re in the west coming to fruition well they’re if they need a defenseman they’re getting one of Sal ruam if they so choose if you’re Steve Eisman are you calling about the New Jersey Devil’s pick right now no I’m waiting for San Jose listen you little bastard you owe us one we it’s the future we considered it but s Jose just and wman on their top D pairing that’s pretty good they did trade up for 11 so they’re not like and they got a second round pick they could bundle that in get back into the first round my God they could use that second round pick to trade away W they damn it they could by God San Jose has the opportunity to the funniest thing here all right perek off the board boam still there Dickinson still there salv still there the defenseman solberg’s still there the defenseman we thought are were going to run off the board one two three in the top nine it’s not a like a bad ratio but wow yeah not expected like this is throwing my whole I was so steadfast on the Red Wings taking a forward you know what I mean yeah yeah now if solberg’s still there there will be forwards I prefer more but man if like salai ever boo him Falls uh red Sergey thank you for the donation says boam Dickinson salv ainla Eiserman one will be available to the wings who would you prefer A’s Gone aa’s Gone But boam Dickinson Sal of Eiserman boam Sal of Eiserman oh God boam yeah it’s like this is where positional need goes out the window he’s just too good to not take favorite comment so far from DF Brad’s wearing a medium shirt that shirt’s extra medium oh it’s Travis Matthew yeah guys are both wearing golf things all right you know what take this opportunity while this while they do their Rubik’s Cubes oh another Super Chat Frank Stanley thank you so much for the donation says thanks guys for the number one podcast thank you Stanley Frank Stanley for the generous donation and all of your support over the years uh and another donation here from Brizzy bones says will you guys be at the stadium Series game 2014 Winter Classic Jersey reverse colors uh remains to be but I think it’d be fun to do when is it again Stadium Series oh did they get releas November no no no Stadium Series Ohio stadium is on give me a second here March 1st March 1st March 1st March 1st weather all right Devils I don’t have a good re I haven’t got nothing going on that day so they’re going Dickinson I feel it imagine they get boo how sick that team is that team’s gonna be they’re like already sick Send Detroit back to the West man I’m ready to stay up late oh my god well Holtz didn’t work out so should they should take a Primo shooter and Eiserman they got to take a defenseman right Devils yeah tomus Jerald does look like he has to bee Mike LX says the money you guys are making YouTube is going to think you’re showing skin oh brother ever taking a goalie oh my God imagine they took a goalie I like that pick for Jersey yeah that’s yeah that’s I think that makes a lot of sense boo to the top 10 though I can’t W my head around that I’m very glad that SL is not there for Detroit you didn’t want the project yeah no all right Brad talk about salv while I go feed my dogs the range of O comes is Tyler Meers to zidan oara he’s massive 6’7 had a good year in the KHL and we know how notorious that league is for 17y olds 18 even 19y olds don’t thrive in that league so as a defenseman to go into that league and do well is hard exceptionally hard now being 6′ s does make it easier but he can skate is a good skater for the size he uses his size well he’s not you know the gentle giant he’ll he’ll run you if he gets a chance little bit of questions on the hockey IQ a little bit of question on the puck skills which you know when you’re a 6′ seven defenseman that’s not the end of the world it’s not the number one and two traits people are looking for in that I don’t know what to call it mold but yeah for New Jersey where their team is at and how their team is built uh in terms of roster Construction and size yeah taking the 6′ s defenseman makes a lot of sense yeah unlike Chara his skating is incredible for someone his size not only mechanically is it impressive but he has the explosiveness as well really for me the big big big question mark is can he develop the rest of his game to put it all together at the NHL level and NH that’s big like that’s a big thing like I guess at the end of the day he’s got the floor where he can just be a mutant and run guys over but at 10 11th overall you want a guy who’s going to produce at the NHL and that would give me a lot of pause if the Red Wings had him Avail BL at 15 like it is easy to forget because it was in the 90s but when Chara broke through with the Islanders he looked like Bambi on the ice there was no coordination no skill he was the definition of a project and look at what he turned into that’s I’m not saying he will be as good as Char but that’s the bet you’re making with salv he is way further along in his skill and development than Chara was at the same age like Lighty years difference I know different day and age better training better yada y y the reason why this pick doesn’t make a lot of sense to me for New Jersey is because I think they’re a lot closer to being a contender than they are re a rebuilding team I think he could play next year really I don’t think he will but he could could play next year yes absolutely he could that’s my point is yeah there’s a better defenseman readily available who could I mean this is good for Detroit being on New Jersey next year is really bad for them to make the playoffs see this is where teams overthink it I can understand them not picking boam because like between Luke Hughes and douge Hamilton who who are you pulling off one of the two power play units to put boam in there right who cares exactly that’s my theory just take the best player but salv they the bet is he’s going to be a better Defender yeah and I think Bo’s a great defender yeah well Sam Dickinson’s was there too so they mustn’t he must have been number three on their defensive list yeah cuz I think he plays already better defense than’s coming up than some of those guys we need three defenseman to go in the next four picks and I don’t think that’s going to happen trade up for boam just do it let’s get weird I want I’m I’ve got the the area code in the first three digits in my phone number now if I’m Steve eer man like yeah all right did I miss any super chats Brendan nindorf thank you for the donation says Go Wings don’t draft mbn I want a bigger swing Craig says any reaches or is it expected not just or just not in order Craig thank you for the donation um senica is a great player I think that is a bit of a reach at three just considering demidov was available um yeah just in a different order I’d say it’s hard yeah there was Ultimate variability in this draft in the top 2 to 10 2 to 11 at this point oh I want Detroit to to trade up for boam the more I think about it the more I that makes sense to me too that is such great talent uh Kip Tia Jr thank you so much for the uh donation says love the Pod boys and who do you think we are taking given how this is all shaped out nothing has touched red WIS possibilities yet katten outside shot soberg well now here’s the interesting thing is what does San Jose do I doubt they thought Z boam was there do they also want the Cole Eiserman be mlin celebrini connection celebrini is not going back to be well I mean they played at shadex play at shadic together too so well that was the went to be you oh they made their picks and Jose oh my God they’re going to take cowards celebrini and boam aren’t they oh my God no looking rless go the sa looking I scrolled down oh they did they took Sam Dickinson they went the pick pick up the phone Steve we are at the point now oh my god oh Nick am I missing about Boo is s about to get celeb in boam nope you would be incorrect take ple thank you for the donation but please call Philly call Philly now I don’t know what I want to happen the forwards that we wanted to fall like outside of c are falling oh my God they’re going to have a choice between everyone I can’t wait for iserman and helenius and ha to be there and we take soberg like you know it’s coming no Brad stop ah like Dickinson 11 for Dickinson is a fine range Bo’s on the board context matters yes it always matters yeah like that like me with soberg I love the player but how this board’s going oh man what if Detroit moves back I you know what if a team at 17 or 18’s calling with the way this is going man boam is too and if boam goes off the board then I’m thinking move back right maybe there’s there’s too many forwards there I like still if it’s a couple picks and someone’s getting like they’re giving you an extra second for it sure well get that second back perfect oh this is incredible wow why what what are we missing with zeve he’s only what six feet is that it I would kill for six feet holy my God so Brans nard still there Connelly obviously iserman Billy what do they have for defense in the system I’m drawing a blank it’s not much right they just traded for what’s his face for manaheim he’s a forward no oh no defense oh no it went the other way I’m thinking go yeah Dale he’s a righty yeah Steve boam shoot left that’s not good I heard Philly’s hot to trot on iserman though I that’s one thing that I heard I just haven’t heard a lot from Philly can you do like this into the TV like you are hot on iserman it yeah mag the The Simpsons like that’s going be a great oh God Buffalo has a lot of Lefty Vision Quest have you forgot what you hope you were hoping at the beginning Connelly it’s a great point if they go Connelly it’s really not like if the next three picks go boam Eiserman if it’s if it’s yeah boam Eiserman soberg we’re about we’re where we expected it just took a real weird path to get there we haven’t even talked about helenius well Minnesota’s picking so man they’re like we have nyard and helenius available to us can we have both uh great comment here Jeth row night IFI first of all thank you for the donation says uh I’m excited to see who we get but I can’t wait till I can quit caring about the draft because we’re consistently in the playoffs no one feels that more than us this is this is as hyped as we’re ever going to be for a middle six forward secondar defenseman we’ve done it two years in a row I think we can do it one more year when Detroit’s picking like 24th or later the first 24 picks are just going to be us drinking La bats yeah exclusively reminising on the play if you think I will be there in my physical body you are wrong you are you here in your physical body now not at yes but in pick number 24 I will not be I’ll do a SE a SEO stream just Evan on FaceTime ripping through Lake Ontario is Philly’s pick isn’t I don’t see pick is in they’re on the clock trade up Detroit trade up trade up trade up I’m frantically refreshing Twitter on my dying laptop nothing I don’t see anything yet uh call call call like this is one of those ones I’m trying like what what did we miss on boam I don’t know I like you know boam going past tjin uh demidov that fine C and fine yakam Chuck I’m starting to question it definitely questioning it per I’m like H William isn’t the best skater mechanically but I mean he’s extremely effective and efficient with what he has taking salave over buam even that I’m like I can see the vision it’s not my vision but I can see it Dickinson I don’t understand no you need a left shot D like he’s a better version of yes Sam Dickson why would San Jose San Jose could have walked away with celebrating and boam I like Dickinson I think he’s he’s a good Prospect but boam could be special well when you pick first overall your job is extremely easy yeah that’s fair the real nuances in your picks after that man and there’s a Philly Minnesota and Buffalo could go a lot of different ways I’m going to be real upset if Buffalo takes someone like Z boam and then we get to watch it in front of us for a couple decades ah that would that would hurt some movement coming here with the 12th pick Elliot fredman some movement here coming with the 12th pick refresh refresh refresh everybody who’s got the fastest trade coming please I’m begging you Steve please there’s a trade at 12 there’s a trade at 12 oh God there’s a trade at who’s jumping over us to go get how do you know this is your what are you refreshing Twitter Twitter yeah 30 seconds ago ell Freeman some movement coming here with a 12 pick yes I did see that who what we don’t know yet I I I said it wouldn’t be like this this year and I’m once again like this I’m all nervous and clammy oh chat saying St Louis that would not be ideal well uh Brier kind of looks like uh an Adams fam character yeah he does he looks like Gomez a young version of gome does look like Gomez that’s hysterical how long have you known that or did that just come to you it just came to me when you mentioned it I went yeah he does look like Gomez I thought that’s where you were going with in his era what you’d think Scott Gomez but no we’re talking The Adams Family character hard-hitting analysis here on the winged wheel podcast this is what you P the big bucks for that almost 3,000 of you are tuning in for the dogs are now thankful for dinner so they’re up here and they want to uh we’ll make we’ll bring the dogs in after the 15 where were St Louis picking originally 16 17 uh let me look here very quickly St Louis was 16 one pick after Detroit oh wow if the team right after Detroit I’m GNA die inside I where people I don’t see St Louis I have been refreshing Twitter every second and since that was announced and nothing has popped up yeah I don’t know I love Sports Net tweeting out Danny be on the phone eyes after your Insider already reported there’s a trade what’s that noise is that Tully groaning outside or he’s like I just hear the callar jangling Chris Blair says my brother said Danny Brier looks like the white shrimpy bad guy that hires Dolph lingren in every 90s movie he looks like the fake Joker from The Dark Knight oh they’re fighting outside the door they’re wrestling yeah yes they are chat can you hear that I have two big dogs and it’s if anyone who has two big big dogs you understand the sounds big dog can we we need an ISO cam of the Red Wing’s desk right now to see if they’re on the phone we need an ISO cam of the dogs all right oh God I have four Twitter updates I’m just watching whatever my top tweet is go 9 seconds 11 seconds 13 seconds still nothing else on the trade no I’m not seeing anything either like the whole point of the impers draft figure out who else is on the phone the tracker hasn’t updated zoom in zoom in so clenched right now oh Minnesota is moving up a spot m one spot that’s not fun that changes nothing for us so Minnesota really they really constant helenius huh can you imagine they do that’ be the funniest thing if they do and move up for constant helenius I will die that’s hysterical Minnesota yeah moving up a spot uh and they moved up one spot for a third round pick a third what that’s it they’re only going up one spot yeah but they did it it was a 2025 third the context of boo is what makes it yeah I know I know I’m not happy about it either we have a trade tell us Gary uh if that’s all it costs I wouldn’t mind that all right third round pick moves you up a spot but like the drop from boam to everybody else is substantial what would a second round pick have gotten Detroit to move up boo please stop can you imagine they could be picking right now who took peric again Calgary Calgary yeah and then you made the trade get to the stage you know who you’re moving up for San Jose took dick look at Garen he’s so happy he doesn’t even notice his hangover right now again not hung over still drunk that way the hangover can’t get you I’m afraid the cumulative hangover will literally kill me that’s two Archer references for us this week yeah it’s a good show to rest it’s a great show the thing I’ve been still trying to figure out a way to say the secret ingredient is phone but it hasn’t come up yet making making trades on the draft floor the secret ingredient his phone the thing is moving up I understand it might like work saying oh that’s dumb to move up you want a guy you want to guarantee you get him even if the other team’s like yeah how do you know I’m not going to take him if you’re not if you know you’re not going to take him take the free third round pick well when someone like this Falls that far if if minur is going up for anybody but him like this comment in the chat traded up and they’re talking about they’re arguing about who to take because it looked like they were just debating on there we can’t trade up and take helenus like no the but the conversation right now is okay yeah we trade it up but it’s a u i and U how the hell do you pronounce that there’s three vowels in a row this doesn’t make sense and two of them are ‘s wait no how many SPS did they move up one it one or three one they were picking 13 now they’re picking 12 jeez Evan you’re the stats major here help us that would be one yep can’t confirm yeah you’re right I ran the numbers really quickly for a second oh man these were two teams that were hot to trod on eer apparently is there anything to that like they well I got bad news for you I’ve spoiled the pick for myself oh why’d you do that for cuz I was refreshing to see if anything was happening and Elliot tweeted it has he been tweeting it no he didn’t he hasn’t been he just did this one specifically fight you he knew you were there well like I mean the the trade up candid Bill Garen gonna go in front of the microphone he’s hammered you’re telling me he’s not hammered God damn it Shy boam hey he’s Z boam or sorry yeah they get shot we get Z yeah we don’t need a z boam we have one of them at home wow imagine if we had that second round pick right now we could have made that move up I don’t know that it wouldn’t have been enough but I absolutely I would have happily add it was a second round pick in this year’s draft the Third is next year’s so boam to Minnesota Flyers wow that you’re like yeah make that trade man make that trade that cost you nothing so which of the defenseman are left is it just soberg oh yeah who’s still on the board h s boam per yakam Chuck Dickinson and lunov the big six are now gone yeah sober some please someone take soberg someone take him so Detroit will take EJ Emer shut up oh do you know how awful I’m GNA feel that I’m not going to be completely stoked about the great player the Red Wings are going to take I told you context matters for good and bad okay but no let’s look at this there’s going to be one of the preferred forwards there guaranteed yes and they’re not they’re going to take whoever the best defenseman is available Ryan we’ve been through this are you doing like a little reverse you don’t want to let yourself no because it’s happened hey the pcks turned out great but it happened with s and it happened with Edinson but those are far better defens anybody available here cider was off the board yeah no one expected cider yeah I’m not saying it worked out poorly but we’ve been through this before well hold on let’s talk about boam for a second first off good for Minnesota go get your guy and that is breaking the mold secondly who’s z z boam as a prospect sick man he’s the like first of all let’s start off with Denver’s whole thing was they suffocated the other teams and like so many one goal games and shut outs down the stretch in key games Z was a huge part about that he was like their top defenseman so let’s get the offensive defenseman can’t defend well right out of the gate oh and of all draft eligible defenseman he had the most points 50 in 42 games unbel uh Brad you keep talking in general about what might happen here as we try to fix this uh Michael Buffer is going to introduce Bill Garen back up onto the stage and he’s going to fight someone man Philly I’m surprised they traded away from buam me too but Minnesota man that’s such a smart trade up for them Faber and boam on that blue line for godale boam though that’s that would have been nice that would have been sick but Faber boam yes okay soberg still there if one of Minnesota or not Minnesota Philly or Buffalo fancies and defenseman we’ve seen connections Philly to Cole eer I’m should probably actually refresher to see you want to know what happened jet luchenko yep to Philly you’re kidding jet luchenko to Philly wow wow that’s surprising wow so almost all the forwards we were hoping would be there for the Red Wings are going to be there depending what Buffalo does oh man jet lenko well that explains why Philly was comfortable trading back no kidding man they if I was Philly I would have went back a few more spots to like 15 to like yeah wow they could have got another Peck oh man just trying to get to the yeah no worries so what does Buffalo do here do they go D with sober do they take eer do they take one of the other Fords cuz they don’t really have any they need significant flaws they’re like the inverse of Detroit for ultimate upside they could they’re not taking saneus yeah they’re not taking sober because they have samelson delene Byrum like power their left side set forever yeah con imagine if we took potential in our other drafts we could have this luxury oh man yeah it’s uh well we’re about to find out the table is now set okay so jet luchenko talk about who jet luchenko is as a player that’s a reach right yeah that’s definitely a reach I like him 200 foot center tons of compete like the the type of player it’s not hard to see why teams would fall in love with but I don’t know if the upside is high enough there to justify only scored 20 goals in the OHL this year on the GOL storm you know maybe there’s more offense to be unlocked I’m not sure but he’s a high energy physical guy yeah all right jet luchenko 13th overall we had a little mini hiccup there uh appreciate the 3,000 of views still in here uh I’m hoping the video will catch up a little bit apologies for the buffering we are two picks away from the Red Wings we have if you’re looking at our predictions list and our preferences list everyone’s still there yeah 100% this is who does Buffalo go here I gotta think it’s a forward right Adam Ure maybe if they want to reach for a right-handed D like again they got four stud left-hand D like I just can’t see them taking soberg I got to think BR negard makes a lot of sense for them helenius makes a lot of sense for them Eiserman makes a lot of sense for them I mean they all make a lot of sense for Detroit too yeah all right they’re on the stage Buffalo’s pick is in this one I might spoil for us as it comes in just for the sake of got I got it here we’re good ly Lindy making the pick oh Lindy’s taking a defenseman for sure yeah yeah what handedness is stalberg again what Buffalo making their pick that doesn’t make sense then const I like that for them yeah that makes sense I like that for them yep good for them all right is this where I get out of the way I really really like soberg but I would much prefer them take a forward here yep that’s fine like I think that makes a lot of sense but seeing as ring just traded away a left-handed d h helenius off the board to Buffalo updating the ticker now so we have eisan we have ha we have Connelly Detroit Red Wings seg neard oh my God it’s gonna happen isn’t it the Detroit Red Wings are on the clock it’s happening live trade back that’s my pick right now go back three spots call Chicago I am actually happy with the trade back yeah this would be where I’m calling Chicago just a few picks yeah that’s why I’m saying Chicago but then you’re guaranteed one of Conelly okay just want to make sure the feed okay feed quality staying all right think we’re back Evan whatever you’re doing on your computer you’ll have to download that uh okay let me know if I need to pull that back up at any point perfect thank you chat for all of that uh the Detroit Red Wings are currently on the clock the pick is in final predictions with how this is gone actual prediction and actual preference one pick each right now as it stands right now my prediction trade back my not prediction my preference sorry okay yeah me too trade back if not if I’m gun to the sphere again if I have to make the pick taking coal iserman my prediction still is Connelly if I had to make if I had to make the pick I don’t know if Conn’s clearer than Connelly if not H so my prediction is soberg my preference is tradeback if they make the pick I would go Eiserman okay all right it looks like the last cutout we lost a few people but that’s okay hopefully everyone comes back the Detroit Red Wings are on the clock 15th pick is coming up here Conant helenius off the board one pick pick before Detroit hurts a little bit based on y I’m nervous yeah come on Elliott who’s who’s picking behind us St Louis Washington Chicago come on when you pick up the phone let’s go all right Pete Blackburn trying to manifest Eiserman here Eiserman to Detroit would be funny and also cool it does it is f it would be funny like for the memes we need the content yes I need Mick to accidentally say Steve Eiserman a bunch but is there a player in this draft who like available right now who seems like less of an Eiserman type than Eiserman Yeah well yeah fair but that’s the thing I don’t even think that’s true like eisman’s not a guy who shies away from like the physical end of the game he competes so then like I I feel like he was over scouted hence why he’d still be my pick here we all want to see the clip of Steve Eisman saying Cole Eisman though yes 100% and like he he doesn’t say a lot of words when he goes up there he just walks up to the mic Eiserman just backs up is it always a commercial before Detroit’s P always always always always like it’s a meme at this point visit the USA wow which boam was picked this round a brother of ours yep it’s a brother of shy boam that’s Z all right I have to catch up on these super chats these donations you guys are all extremely kind for something that we messed up um all right Luke DT thank you so much John mosy says here’s 20 bucks fix the stream Brad says $2 to fix the stream Michael DJI 11 says you dropped this Kings and it was 10 fresh squeeze cider says get better in interwebs provider I wish we could where we are break my computer says stream fix funds ironic uh McMan thank you so much Luke dwick says could boam be the next ziden different position but I’m gonna say no to Smith says they have to trade down now right so many names left it’s good thinking I would I would go back to 16 17 or 18 given the option Jacob low says uh who’s number one on the leftovers lifts leftovers list leftovers list like who’s left oh God right now my list would be iserman ha Connelly soberg uh BR seg neard soberg sorry Brian G10 103 says y all good remember to save Fresh cheese bags thank you Denver Wing says thanks Jens off to the bar after the pick all right folks uh if you’re still here how many of you do we still have with us we are up to 3200 welcome back everyone apologies for the technical difficulties uh literally all evans’s fault he uh sprayed beer all over my router I think that’s what we blame I would do that y although it might have been a strategic decision from the dogs to like knock over the modem or something maybe they’ll have to leave the room and then pay attention to us yes um I love the chats coming in that were like uh Ryan doesn’t look at the chat or they’re not looking at the chat they they think we’re dumb they literally don’t know that it’s broken and it I was like the sad hamster meme I’m like I’m trying as hard as I can to fix it prant was literally calling me uh donate from uh dog rat 19 says love from Australia picked up the Pod this year and keeps me updated with the mighty winged wheel as we get F all down here what time is it over there oh you’re in the morning thank you so much really really appreciate it and chat thank you so much for the uh uh uh the support and the heads up I was literally using you to figure out whether the stream was good or not so thank you and if it goes bad again St is on stage Steve eisman’s on stage the pick is in all right didn’t trade back I am not looking at Twitter might need to turn this up a little bit Yep this is a live reaction to the 15th overall pick all right here we go if if not Connelly I say it’s BRZ neard no h h h two of three have been on the podcast that’s right not Gary not yet not yet oh he’s dropping a defenseman oh yeah they’re getting lman to make the pick that’s soberg if it’s list it’s soberg is it soberg he’s already up on the stage BR Z neard like I loved it but it’s the most predictable pick the most predictable imaginable like yes yeah Michael branz neard 15th overall to the Detroit Red Wings great player boring pick it is the probably the most predicted pick in the NHL draft every one of you who are yelling at everybody doing their mock draft can you please pick someone else you go is why they don’t you have to go apologize to all of them because the Red Wings are the most predictable organization in the league if everyone can say a prayer right now for Mickey Redmond he’s going to be going through it saying that name yeah love the player like a the predictable nature of this doesn’t take away from how good neard is again he’s your 200 foot like all out competitor who’s got a wicked shot and can score some goals right yeah I do have questions about his mediocre production as a late birthday in the alen scone like that is a bit of a red flag but if they’re drafting someone out of Sweden I know he’s Norwegian but if they’re drafting someone who played in Sweden I trust hakan Anderson yep yeah hakan Anderson generally like that is Detroit’s Drafting inefficiency and if they are taking someone out of Sweden you’re right like he has been prolific over the years and what it means to take that kind of talent over the talent that you see you know out of the the North American Leagues it means he was banging the table he means I’m certain that this guy’s the right pick the name is hilariously compressed in the back of that Jersey so Michael brzeg negard how give us the full rundown on who he is as a player what he brings you know you talked about the shot you talked about the 200 foot game and where is he in the Red Wings system well for where this organization is at and it’s probably unfair to put this on him he needs to be the top scoring Prospect in the system right now just because we’ve talked about the lack of goals that are coming up through the system right now again I expect Danielson to contribute I expect merer to contribute but I don’t think either of them are 30 goal scorers The Hope here is that BR seg neard could be that guy because again that is this organization’s biggest hole in arguably on the roster and in the pipeline definitely in the pipeline so the offensive upside is intriguing the shot is intriguing the fact that he also is a balls to the wall 200 foot you know run through a brick wall to make a play type of guy is the cherry on top I have questions about is he going to be a 30 goal scorer right now my prediction would be no but it’s definitely in his range of possibilities it’s not that farfetched to think he could get there I don’t like the the fact that his shot is that good makes me think that I think I don’t even think it’s in like the highest range of possibilities I think he absolutely could be he’s going to be one of those prospects where it’s pretty tough to tell the Austin gone is not the truest indicator of you know what his future performance is going to be it isn’t it’s certainly not a massive green flag that he didn’t produce a ton in the Alin Gan but it’s also like it’s even though it’s not the shl it’s still a hard League to play in as a young player The Hope here is that because he was playing in a weaker League the people getting him the puck were not as proficient at that for him to unleash the shot maybe going up level and playing with better players maybe he gets a few more touches if he can find the right spots again I don’t know the Allman’s gone well enough to be able to make that assessment fully that’s the the hope if you will but yeah it’s I’m intrigued he’s got enough playmaking that I don’t think teams can fully cello on his shot but I don’t think it’s like going to be an upper tier trait of his and up and down the ice is where his impact is like it truly stands out it’s the fact that he can combine a really really high-end shot like one of the better shots in this draft with a very complete 200 foot game and I know skater too yes the Red Wings fans are going to like cringe when they hear that but it’s actually like a it’s a good thing and it’s not like that’s all he has that he’s a he’s a full package I think there were guys with higher offensive upside like a dramatic comparison either end of the spectrum is Eiserman for example not a complete player not a complete 200 foot game but has that Wicked shot and that you know really really highend Dimension and that’s the the Gambit that the Red Wings took they took a player who is going to make an impact all over the ice let’s see what Steve Eisman has to say here talks about a shot yep two-way player good on the power play something else will say so eisman’s talking about him feeling a void and they they feel like he’s bringing that off he talked a lot about the offense which is good because it means they see the offense in him and something else I’ll say is they love this pick because they went up on that stage and they took him despite everyone else that was there they were set on him yeah they were set on Michael BR KN guard nobody’s surprised no nobody’s surprised the fact that he did reference the offense mostly that’s very promising is encouraging cuz that’s again the biggest organizational need uh watching Michael ha or whoever here go will be interesting but actually St Louis is taking soberg for sure aren’t they you think they got to all right Evan your thoughts on mbn yeah I think this is a quintessential Detroit pick as long as we’ve been doing this other than Philip Zena falling this is like very quintessential um you know bran zig nyard what can I add that you guys what can I say that hasn’t already been said you know he’s an elite middle six 16th you’re a chick okay s keep going he’s an elite middle Six Prospect he Elite middle 6 feels like an oxymoron doesn’t it uh but you know but the funny thing is you know exactly what I mean yeah I I do get it I think the one thing I you know really like about his game is he plays to the inside I the the dogs the the pick the dogs do not like my opinion on that he plays in the middle of the ice you know there’s a lot of guys on the bigger ice service over in Europe who play to the outside he does not he for checks like a dog where’s the bark now there there it is there it is he can run guys over he is an excellent back cheer like he is a 200 foot Prospect I I have questions about his creativity with the puck and his Dynamic yeah he doesn’t play a complicated game no he is but I feel like saying meat and potatoes is kind of underselling him a little bit Yeah there there is skill there but there’s not the creativity the the get out of your seat type skill more power forward than Elite playmaker yeah I would agree he’s good comparable here in the NHL not less COV more who’ be the if it helps you know EP or leite Prospect said shades of aru leinen I can see that like aru leanin likes to throw the body around is pretty good all over the ice not an over producer by any means or a highlevel producer but this is like the he’s got I don’t even want to say this because I think I said this about Casper too he’s got incredibly High floor God I love those High floor guys I’m not going to say he’s NH the most NHL ready but I’m going to say he has a high floor like I don’t know about you two but like I understand High floor is a compliment but I still winse a little bit when you hear it you know what I mean yeah brings up Scar Tissue yeah for sure yeah so there’s nothing absolutely nothing wrong with this pick but it goes back to the whole I would rather the Red Wings swing for someone like Trevor Connelly who has top five Talent Cole Eiserman who may have very ordinary skill set other than generational goal scoring yeah he’s an average middle six Winger who just happens to drop 40 goals like exactly exactly the thing is though what was the most likely outcome with the 15th overall pick we’ been us and everybody else have been saying this for weeks the only reason I didn’t predict him before the episode and I qualified it was I don’t think he’ll be there at 15 but if he is he’s absolutely the pick and here we are like I don’t want I what I worry about is that he’s going to get pegged as like a you know absolutely just a high floor energy third line Winger guy it could be an outcome for him absolutely that is very much within the range of possibilities but he is like an outstanding player to the point where the Red Wings are you can see the fascination with them the funny part here is that yeah the predictability was there the 200 foot forward the high compete Great Character like man but this just the Swedish the Swedish Drafting and development contingent has been incredibly successful yes I like I said right in my immediate reaction I trust hakan Anderson if he’s saying yeah this is the guy fantastic and the Red Wings North American drafting history has been suspect so you’d have there would be that lingering in the back of your mind if they did take someone in North America yep so or you would say they’re so confident that they did it that they over you know went past what they you know until Danielson turns into a superstar I’m going to still be skeptical and I like Daniel sin before everybody he comes at me yeah but their success has come from the hakan Anderson scouting yes 100% well look at even going back uh out of Sweden this year they did have a first round pick out of SW Sweden last year uh year before that where did they draft out of right Sweden year before that Sweden year before that help me out here uh Sweden it’s worked it’s worked you have to go all the way back to most cider BR the thing is I see a a player of nbn’s quality and I think compared to some other drafts he’s actually like he would have been top 10 in the Casper year I like him more than I like Casper going into the draft but that was a ER draft I don’t like him as much as I like Daniel or Sandy pel but he’s in that range also he shoots right which is always at a premium immediately Detroit’s best forward Prospect no sorry sorry no out yeah Danielson would still come in I would still have Danielson above him yes and depending on the day Axel sandine pel even though he’s a defenseman with the forward qualities if we’re talking offensive prospects that’s right yeah but outside of that like outside of Danielson he’s actually you know where would you have him Stack Up compared to Danielson uh not far behind I’d give Daniels they’re pretty I they’re almost tied in my books but uh Tai goes to the center okay that’s probably their also like that Danielson plays in the WHL which is you know maybe as close as you can get to the NHL Paras at 17 Paras at 17 to Washington all right who’s going to be the one that falls to the late first where we’re going to be yelling like second Baron and whatever the hell else you have to give up to get it back into the first I don’t think he’s getting that far but man what’s the what’s the development path now for mbn what’s his NE most likely next steps he’s a late birthday so he’s a year older than most of the kids in this draft he’s very physically developed he’s already playing in a pro league I would hopefully think one more year and then NHL but I said that about Casper as well and not there yet so who knows I just he needs to get out of the Alon gone this year and I don’t know if he’s commit off thought my head if he’s committed to a team this coming year in a perfect world Grand Rapids but my guess would be shl catching up on donations Denver Wing uh says thanks jents off to the bar after the pick uh oh I caught dog rat as well Carl thank you so much uh Brent nindorf says cheers I’m out Brad says imagine it a handshake from Lind lrom Draper and Eiserman and then throwing on that damn Jersey chills uh Jacob thank you says hot take Eisman trades back into the first for soberg Brad might implode if they trade back into the first and take soberg I’d love that are you kidding me well if ha was still on the board okay yeah but you’re not trading back into the first round unless like one of them Falls and you think multiple of them are falling the meadian says Eisman collecting long last names like Infinity Stones I’m kidding Jacob says does Eisman trade back into the first how much would it cost and for who there’s a lot of players you still like here I don’t consider it likely but yeah yeah apparently it doesn’t cost a lot they don’t pick for a long time like they’re almost 30 picks off keep that in mind when you’re thinking trade up like I don’t think trade-ups even going to be a scenario till we’re getting into the late 20s and even then it’s unlikely I think the conversation about trade-ups going to be more so between the first round and the second round and trading like see who falls out of the first round that you want to go up for for Michael brzeg negard what’s the ultimate upside highest highest upside like it’s it’s not likely that the player will end up being this but like what if all the tools land the development lands who is he as a player oh man if everything goes exactly right Brandon Hegel maybe that’s a little like a 30 353 guy like a 60 70 point guy putting up north of 30 goals leinen was a good comp I yeah so something in the like 3030 60 to 70 point range is probably where you’re you’re hoping I think his most likely scenario is a 2525 guy which is still great yeah 303 I agree maybe yeah like that’s a higher end outcome I think 25 like 25 goals in like when he’s in his prime years is not crazy to think about for him with his shot he need power play time of course but e talked about that like they liked his work on the power play and keep in mind average value get out of 15th overall pick that’s not crazy far off of what you can expect or should expect for 15th overall so the the part of this that I think is that’s what I keep coming back to the Red Wings realistically needed to walk away with someone in a mid first round pick that they’d be able to add to their offense I think that was the most important thing you know baring boam falling that far so there were in my mind different picks that I think other people we had I think I had ha equal to mbn on my list helenius was higher Etc but there were other options that you know had a higher-end offensive upside maybe but mbn I think is the most projectable in terms of what the Red Wings needed is that would you agree in terms of him being the most projectable or like safe safe seems like a pejorative here but I don’t mean it that way the the lack of production this year in the Allen scan tends me to leads me to say no just because I think we have a better feel right now for what Danielson and Casper are but that’s because we seen them more we’ve watched them closer I think the tools are the most projectable combined with the size if that makes sense yep but it’s a draft who knows he’s a big frame man six already 612 200 plus pounds like that’s kid that is not a fun player to play against he plays like a dog if he comes in and plays like a a little wrecking ball while still providing offense and he’s up and down the ice like that’s fantastic uh what would it cost to to trade back into the first round you’re talking future seconds maybe or your current second at least it depends on how many picks you’re moving up if you’re talking moving up 20 30 picks that’s steep that’s quite a bit yeah what’s Detroit’s next pick 47 let’s say they moved up to 27 just Mak it a nice easy number yeah you’re probably looking at another second round pick at least all right so parisek went to Washington I have Chicago’s picks here it will be a uh I don’t know if this is necessarily surprising I don’t know if we’re in surprising range anymore uh Jeff goyer thank you so much for the generous donation says thanks for all the great content guys do you think there’s a chance Sasha to Chicago by the way W yeah dude what is happening and this draft is this draft is uh you know the Red Wings had to do something predictable because the rest of this draft sure as hell hasn’t been Cole Eiserman still on the board is weird right yeah yeah yeah that to me remember what I was talking to you about before and I can’t remember if this was on stream or not if he’s still there late doesn’t that indicate something to you so here’s the thing everyone up to bran seg knard you can see the upside and you can see the floor like they all made sense luchenko a bit of a reach but you can see the floor perac and bav have a lot of question marks so if you’re worried about question marks why not take Eiserman because the upsides much higher than the guys that are going now and I don’t think more risk you know what I mean is there like you pass on E man because of the risk parisek you can’t tell me has more risk or has less risk than Eiserman B you can’t tell me has less risk than Eiserman like yeah Bren s neard definitely less risk than Eiserman is there a little bit of like uh they didn’t really think Eiserman would be there so they over Scout these guys and they get really set on them because that does happen from time to time no there were enough reports that he was in this range like these teams shouldn’t be caught by surprise yeah that’s fair enough all right uh there I saw a question come through brand oh my God he could go to the leaves Cole Eiserman we’re getting not far yeah we’re a few picks away here leis are 23rd we’re on 19 right now Vegas adding him would be oh my god well he never play for him if you want Eiserman on the Red Wings let Vegas take him because there’s a trade possibility within the next year oh that’s right yeah yeah where does mbn stack up against previous picks we talked about Danielson we talked about s like previous forwards let’s say I have him between Danielson and Casper like him more than Casper not fully there on Danielson yet I kind yeah I think that’s fair I think Danielson I think the offense for Danielson in terms of production even though we we talked a lot about the production on Danielson was lower than what you’d want in his League this is biased by the fact that we’ve then seen him produce right on a better team it’s kind of similar questions right the very similar players but I would give a slight Edge to bran seg knards shot but a substantial Edge to danielson’s playmaking I I agree with that agree with Winger to center right yeah and the center position is what makes the difference there Danielson still to me projects as if he makes it he can make it as a a center oh he better he absolutely better be a center at level well you always know a center I don’t know everyone always says this guy could be a center and how many of them he’s north of 6 feet skates really well good playmaker competes his ass off if that’s not an NHL Center I throw every Center out the window yeah all right Michael brzeg knard at 15th overall to the Detroit Red Wings they kept the pick they made the pick and some of the other names that we were talking about are still on the board I know the chat was going crazy just going to check catch up on that over the next little while now with the rest of Detroit’s pick in this draft does this affect what you’re looking for from the Red Wings in terms of what they go with next because they have they took branz negard does do you want to go for more offense right in the second round because their next pick is in the second they have 47 and they have a one pick in each round till the seventh and then they have two picks in the seventh round yes they could take a forward with every pick in this draft and I’m okay with it they’re not going to and everything outside of the first rounds a crap shoot take the best player available like in the second round don’t overthink it like if you’re looking at Aaron kaharu or Teddy sta a defenseman and aord they’re both going to put numbers up John mustard season baby let’s go I just I’m gonna the only thing that’s going to piss me off in the second round is if they take another one of these low ceiling depth defensemen like I’m sick of that like that’s it’s arguably before the wman trade arguably eisman’s biggest flaw is a GM so far is his second rounds have been terrible and he takes low upside safe projectable guys which the curse of the draft is when you do that you know what happens with him uh they don’t pan out because the talent’s not good enough for the NHL level look at how many Brady Cleveland’s and you know we just traded him but Andrew Gibson again to me was a long shot to the NHL remember when we took Dylan James in the second round how many of you watching even remember Dylan James yeah like I love the swing on Augustine I love the swing on B the C but outside of that it’s been a lot of a could have done better and not just from a I understand the second round is a crap shoot you’re more likely to miss than hit but just the whole strategy of it all with mbn I know you were joking about like soberg and we’re like we really like the player but we hope that’s not the pick for what they need for me that like mbn was on firmly on the other line of that like I would have much rather like mbn to me is like even if he’s not at the top of your board he’s your favorite pick he was tied for second for me based on who’s available I would have actually if it was soberg been like who’s shooting the puck yeah who’s putting up points yeah 100% with mbn this is like a version of some of the players we we we talked about you know at the top of the draft we’re like you can’t be mad at that pick but you left you know this forward on the board if they had taken soberg I know exactly what my Twitter feed would have looked like for the next we a bunch of paying what you don’t like the guy he’s sick look at him I’m like I never once said he was bad I really like the player but who’s again like you said would have been putting the puck in the net oh wow Vegas guess who they took you can guess it’s Eiserman is it not haage Connelly yep yeah that’s a good pick well I mean I don’t know the player but if they if that’s not a problem for them that is a of incredible value for Vegas there great value for a team who thinks they can compete for the Stanley Cup next year which who knows why they can’t and he might never play for them Trevor Connelly goes about where he was projected the entire time and you know what if you’re Vegas that’s the kind of Swing you take right oh a th% because they’re never going to be pick they won’t be picking this high again for a while if they can help it they won’t be yeah and uh look at their team they can help it yeah so except unless Mark Stone gets hurt two months earlier than normal no that’s right well they would never risk it that way all right poor Mickey Redmond is mbn ceiling comparable to a Winger version of nen Hopkins that’s the donation from Brad I think rnh would have a higher offense yeah he’s got a 100 Point Season BR segard is not getting anywhere near that uh Dan B saying buam wender Johanson tristo Johanson I don’t if you’re listing players like previous picks I think when we were talking about second round picks translating it’s just like NHL games so Johansson will make the second round picks look better when he plays games this year yeah yeah but even then what’s his ceiling again anytime you get a regular NHL or the second round it’s great but he’s still probably just a bottom pair guy yeah like you can get again you can get those in for Agency for nothing like that’s that’s the whole point on the philosophy Montreal picks again in two picks oh no please God if they walk away from with d an Eiserman they’ll have two Kohls they’re they can’t have that they have to give one of them away we’ll take one of them I agree two two small coals who can shoot yeah not good two lumps of coal if you will yeah two lumps of coal let’s hope so yeah how’s the chat feeling about mbn how are you guys feeling it’s not underwhelming the same last year I’m WellMed it’s whelming yeah it’s it’s it’s hard to have an emotional reaction because knew we’ve been reacting for three months because we knew how this was gonna go uh drik and Stam thank you so much for the donation says for all your hard work tonight Ryan great content from all of you guys much appreciated what pick should we bring the pops in for I think it should be late because it’s going to be hard to get rid of them after yeah’s very excitable and if they lay on my feet it’s already hot enough in here New York Islanders on the clock to the a Cole bodang seems like the most Islanders possible pick right they must already have a guy with that name you’re telling me they don’t oh man yeah okay my uh who I have my eyes on right now on the drop watch is Liam greenre there’s a lot of guys on the drop watch right now like so much though that it’s almost not worth talking about till I that’s why I didn’t really want to mention it because I think there are quite a few options still but he’s on my list now he was one of my top 20 picks and we’re getting into that point where I just need to start thinking about it a little bit more the more I think about it the more I can’t get over that Paras pick I like the guy but at that’s a big S 17 yeah with who is available like that just feels like Washington forgot to scout some guys okay H falling what does that say to you NHL teams can’t get out of their own way you’re that sure about him May I’m not sure about anything I think there that’s the motto of our podcast I think therefore I am everything else is up for interpretation but teams don’t pick for upside anymore and it’s infuriating I think some teams pick for upside and those are the teams that if you look at the league do well Dallas how they doing Vegas how they doing they’re getting there like we’re starting to get to the point in the draft where the actual good teams are picking now you’re like oh I’m like there’s a lot of talent still on the board this is not good because the rich will maybe just keep getting richer send them West please it’s all I’m asking send them West I agree I agree all right what pick are we on now the Islanders still is the pick in for them no they’re still on the clock the Hawks really traded up for B huh yeah that’s weird that’s very weird you trade up generally when you want to take a swing and they made that trade like three weeks ago makes it’s so weird how early that was yeah that’s out there yeah crazy Trevor Connelly looked like he was crying I would I got drafted no he just got red cheeks no I’m looking at his eyes it’s not crying he is in Vegas he’s he’s relaxing he hung out with Stevie beforehand all right how’s the chat doing so Brad you’re getting yelled at why what’ I do I don’t know uh Tony Ferrari actually had mbn really high on his ranking that’s a great Point uh Red Wings and jazzfan thank you for the donation says getting tired of all these safe first rounders Eiserman was a goal score this team needed mbn isn’t a needle mover he’s not yeah there’s going to be PE there’s going to be players with higher offensive upside for sure I I still think mbn is within the range of a guy who moves the needle for the team but in a purely offensive or skilled way like other players could have he’s not the same player no Anders Ley doesn’t have enough chest here to pull off that look yeah [Laughter] no oh I see the Islanders pick yeah the Islanders let me have fun with it all right you can have fun with it Brad I don’t like it being spoiled I won’t spoil it cois to the Islanders well at least it’s not the Atlantic this are also the team that whiffed on Oliver walstrom so you know maybe maybe they have a type Cole Eiserman goes 20th I really thought he’d be gone yeah I did too 20th felt like a hell of a free fall soberg I’m surprised is still there yeah yeah since the red like again you look at the top 15 if you ignore the order they went in that’s probably a top 15 you would have guessed outside of lenko mhm everything since then though has been weird it has been a much different draft I wonder how much was like intentional obfuscation I wonder how much of it was was because people were nervous because they’re going to be on the draft floor I don’t think that plays much into it if you ask Steve eisan he paranoid about it yeah Cole asman who’s still here that’s like shocking to you ha yeah soberg y it’s about it everything else everybody else still being available makes at least a little bit of sense to me yeah Green Tree is the only one for me on that list I think everybody else is kind of unsurprising this is about the range I would expect Green Tree I thought maybe someone might reach a little bit into like the late teens but this is about where I thought he was on a very very bad team and made lemonade out of literal potatoes who said Liam green tree oh he’s Russian yeah he made lemonade out of cinder blocks yeah so I think there’s a lot more to his game I think his skating needs to develop in a big way but I think if they can get that figured out he’s a a no doubter man 20th overall imagine saying that back in September I it’s not not the most insane thing in the world but I really thought he was climbing the draft board yeah all those rumors around San Jose Philly Minnesota and Buffalo he’s connected to each of them now mind you this could be because of those everything that happened in the top 10 where the defense fell like does Minnesota take him if they’re not trading up for boam does San Jose take him if you know boam and Dickinson aren’t there right yeah how many teams Draft plans got thrown out the window because of how far those guys were falling probably just those two more than you’d expect me Lemonade out of Windsor rude but fair yeah wow that is good okay who is up on the board here Montreal Montreal and then Nashville after that and then if they if they take cage I’m going to be mad but they already took a forward so maybe they soberg here that would make sense don’t love the rest of the defenseman available here I actually a nice pick for them at 21 if they go that route but man there’s a lot of good forward still Eisman fell deep yeah I know I can’t like he like everybody said it was a possibility and I belied them but it still feels weird it does you know what I mean R montre I’ve already had a pick let’s go get up there the Red Wings drafted a viking why are you guys mad we not mad we’re not mad we like the pick we actually we are our whole criticism is it was boring because everybody predicted it for me like I know you’re saying that legitimately that’s like that is joking like this is predictable but it’s not a bad thing yeah you I actually think are like you actually want to feel something for so for you I think it’s a little bit more real but it’s literally nothing to do with the player yeah it it has nothing to do with Michael brand seg knard himself I’ve been the most vocal critic of Eiserman getting too married to his type MH which is kind of my only disappointment with him that he is so married to it everybody in the world predicted this for the last two months that still doesn’t mean he’s a bad player right oh sorry Dan I wasn’t I didn’t realize you’re talking about the chat all right Detroit is still quite a few picks away 26 picks away yeah they’re picking at what like 12 12:30 tomorrow if if he becomes a 70. two-way guy that is a thrilling result for 15th overall that is a gigantic win like Dylan Lin is one of the greatest 15 15th overall picks of all time full stop like that’s how rare a player of that caliber here is so if that’s what this becomes then yeah very very very happy if he becomes a two-way player 50o guy you’re happy right like if mbn settles into a good outcome I think that’s like you said 25 goals 25 assists two-way impact player that’s where context starts to matter right because if he’s a 50-point guy objectively in a bubble 15th overall that’s great you’re happy oh you’re about to be very sad but if if Connelly H and iserman are popping off for 30 35 40 goals each then it’s harder to justify but that’s an if right well I know they’re going to take someone good here because it’s our division yes absolutely piss off Michael ha to Montreal yeah that’s a great hul for them do you know how mad I am right now good damad and ha that’s a great result yeah that’s a tidy piece of business right there damid I am full of H against machine how they how are they pronouncing it hey heg all right we’re going with heg I’m gonna find that announcer who’s saying ha I’m mad at him Michael heg well he’s in Montreal now so they basically just sent him to the heg I don’t like that City I’m sorry I love Montreal I think I love one part of Montreal yeah the rest of it sucks it’s like the teams in your division are going to get good prospects and whether they turn into your good players is another I wish they didn’t but well he’s playing for Michigan so now I kind of got to hope he’s good but it’s still annoying when it’s the players that you like go to the teams in your division because then you’re like that seems personally it’s yeah I been going to the Metro as like you know okay that’s fine that’s fine soberg still there oh my God how far are we from the Leaf’s pick because they need a defenseman desperately two picks it’s Nashville next to them oh Nashville please take him Nashville I need you to take soberg all right let’s catch up on what’s Happening Here is is going to sign Elias lindol it’s definitely going to it’s going to be an option please no please God no yeah he’s going to sign on a three-year deal for 7even million perks threeyear deal would be phenomenal did and what did uh lyol just turned out for in Vancouver 7 by eight yeah no no again cost of living Vancouver man no is that actually on like so imagine walking down the street and seeing that like if you’re this kid’s family or that’s be cool that’d be so sick Nashville is up on the clock here how’s everyone doing in the chat how many do we still have here still 1600 here still a shame that the internet just died I’m mad about that I’m livid about that I’m sad for all the people who are watching then tuned out but then I was panicking I’m like oh my God the Red Wings are picking in two picks of all time could this not haveen pick 24 we testing everyone’s faith brother we were testing my faith I can’t believe I told you to tether and you made me tell you again 10 minutes later why didn’t you do it the first time I didn’t even do it I you haven’t done it yet I I don’t have any Internet going right now well I do now I have Twitter up again why don’t you why don’t you just tether to your phone I don’t even know how to do it with this thing it’s you select a Wi-Fi network are you okay what’s your what’s your job title again oh I I’m not I I just manage oh thank you Sarah I appreciate that that’s good to know all right let’s catch up on this uh comment here Nick s says yes I really like our 200 foot complete forwards but does isman have the least amount of goal scor Playmakers in the Atlantic at this point sorry it’s a bit negative love the channel no like it’s it’s not it is negative but like it’s objectively true uh they have look at what Buffalo more lot more Montreal definitely the pipeline now Toronto yes Tampa Bay yes Florida Boston yeah not in the pipeline but their rosters got poak and marshan so really you’re just competing with Ottawa who already has graduated Norris and kachuck and St Norris doesn’t play Norris lives at the hospital Fair Pinto for half a season y you can bet on that I think I don’t know that Ottawa is necessar they’re not that far ahead but I still like if we’re talking long term for Detroit what is it Lin Raymond de Brink it long term three years left yeah he’ll resign he’s not going anywhere yeah I don’t know I don’t I bran s neard helps in right now of all the players in the system outside of who’s already on the roster is the most likely 30 goal scorer so MH now the thing is with offense like we talked a lot about oh wait heg was a Montreal fan that’s kind of cool that is pretty cool that’s cool we talked a lot about you know what the Red Wings could do I don’t imagine based on just what we’ve heard Eisman is seeking to do and you know freeing up the cap space that he’s not going to be aggressive but let’s say they do take a let’s just let the kids play season uh it’s unless goal tending comes through in a big way that’s not going to represent to jump in the standings in all likelihood Anything Could Happen I’d still argue in the bigger picture it’s probably better right could be a top 10 pick next year exactly that’s the thing because you look at their system it lacks the high-end you know Surefire star power and they don’t have a lot of that on the roster so another swing at the can wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world unless they go swing a big trade for somebody yeah I don’t know I don’t know cuz I don’t want them to regress too much right like they got to plug a couple holes no matter what yeah if they stay about where they are but the other teams around them like it’s not such a low entry threshold for the playoffs yeah it’s not like the worst outcome in the world like you got to think New Jersey’s coming up they’re coming back ottawa’s probably not going to be as bad as they were this year Washington’s making enough moves to probably stay at least relevant the Islanders are going to hang around who knows what you’re going to get out of Philly like you can improve in drop in the standings right like cuz I expect a lot of teams to improve also want to qualify this by saying this was going to be the case no matter what the pick was in all likelihood like this a 15th overall pick isn’t moving the needle on they were not one forward away from us going oh my God their offensive problems are solved yeah yeah this isn’t Michael heg had a 65o increase year-over-year that’s cuz he barely played the year before that is the most deceiving stat they could have put up it’s not that is still wild though Berkeley Ken had 61 yeah he hit almost 120 points that yeah C that’s crazy too all right come on soberg here I don’t want soberg getting to Toronto please is Barry trots not going to take oh wow Barry trots making Nashville’s pick here it comes NOP they haven’t done it yet that guy’s a monster he uh said he wants to thank all the fans for watching Surin did I hear that right smashville yeah huh interesting not a bad pick they took um was that Minnesota who’s the one guy that dropped a couple years ago the Russian into the I think it was to the 20s uh ow now thinking about mbn and his toolkit like think of his tools what is he already doing he already has you know the the mature game the size the SK you think of that guy and the fact that he already has that shot like I understand what you were saying Brad about the Austin’s gone in the production didn’t blow you away but you also talked about how playing in worst leagues without great players around you like not every player with a great shot can create and fire off without any space kind of thing like I actually think the up like and I’m not saying this is likely but like high high highend upside or or at comes for him I don’t think the ceiling has to be so low like I don’t I don’t 30 goals is low you know how few players score 30 that’s what I’m saying like why can’t he be the comp like unicorn is a word that’s thrown around too much but a 200 foot player who is still like people think 200 foot player and then they think oh whatever offense is limited but why can’t he be a guy who is an offensive weapon on the power play when he has some time and space and that complete 200 foot player right like because in the NHL there isn’t a lot of time and space that’s the Crux of it skates well enough to learn how to generate it yeah so the tool what I’m saying is the tools are there the tools are there I don’t see the vision in the playmaking that’s fine in my mind it’s okay it it does make him a little easier to defend but that is also balanced out by his compete and speed you know I’m trying to think there’s not a great comparable in the NHL that I can think of for him like Poor Man’s Quinton bfield like that big Power Forward High compete High skill great skater yeah playmaking is not really there but can get the puck to the net hopefully maybe can you pronounce it for us in the region okay well not bad our English version of it pretty much bang on brand neard is not terrible yeah whatever whatever it’s Pol motion he made with his mouth there on the Y I can’t do so brard also he took like seven syllables for the r alone it’s just like he stuck there the Lea are getting sounds like your radio is about to cut out as they should be good I’m going to be so mad if they get soberg here though is that not the perfect pick for the leaf does he seem like a true living guy I don’t know absolutely yes tree living is kind of plain Jane I don’t really like he’s not tree living is he not an Alberta boy big mean physical defenseman Toronto’s not making the pick and I’m trading up who’ they I like that for them hey what could go wrong the last time I remember the Leafs and the Ducks swapping pcks the Leafs ended up with Tyler bigs and the Anaheim Ducks ended up with John Gibson and Ricard Rael oh what a pull are you okay yeah that’s John Gibson’s been on the mine lately so and let’s not forget we are familiar with John Gibson he did spend two three years with the Kitchener Rangers it’s like he was very front of mind around that time mbn equals Cam Neely 2024 version wish sign up man hell yeah uh we have a donation here from uh MC says wish we had less vanilla more Superman come on Steve still five rounds six rounds left after this yeah could trade back up mbn is Poor Man’s dry Sidle that is like God no that’s not dry cidal but I would love the outcome dry cidal is one of the best Playmakers passers in the league it skates like I’d argue that’s brar’s weakness weakness isn’t the right word it’s not a strength for him though and dry Sidle skates like Evan at 3:00 a.m. at his bachelor party which I’ll tell you he was in no actually 8: a.m. the next morning bad friends if you put skates on me in that condition well I think we would have been great friends you’re lucky that that Lake wasn’t Frozen that’s true all right mbn sorry this is a a comp that’s been made elsewhere and I actually really like it this is I’m reading this chat uh singi theion says uh mbn Adrien Kempy I think Kemp’s a better skater but I don’t hate it I don’t like comps I I hate player comps I think that it just creates unrealistic expectations and pigeon holes players but I do like the general thought there I could get down with that as a best case scenario I don’t think he’s going to score 40 goals like Kempy but that would be nice that would be an ideal outcome trre pick 23 31 and 50 eight wow they went back so they they moved back eight picks and grabbed an extra second rounder they must yeah Leafs are low on prospects I get it that’s probably a little further back than they probably should have moved here but I bet they I bet they waited as long as they possibly could like they they they were they were holding out to not have to move back that far man and I’m jumping back up to they took senica if they take the d here it’s a nice haul for them that’s a really good first round s soberg that is a nice haul for them that would be a really really good outcome for them they deserve to be rewarded for finally getting proper jerseys yes they do yep good karma in the universe for them Pat for beak is so Steve Eisman coded man same facial expressions they’re the same person it’s why a trade for Gibson will never get done because they both drive too hard a line yeah yeah he’s determined to not retain salary and still want something back yeah he’s probably still hard set on a first round pick for him yeah sure man you got a 2024 first round pick God Zer McTavish Carlson and senica that’s sick must be nice must be nice to see a rebound rebuild accelerate like that it’s amazing what happens when you can get in the top three or four of the draft regularly Pat you traded up for the pick get the hell to the stage you know who you want you’re not figuring it out now no Daniel sprong is not the right comparison for NBN Daniel sprong is a defensive liability all they could not be more different outside of the shot Daniel sprong in the offensive zone sure because of the shot Daniel sprong is not going to return to the Red Wings because he cannot be trusted on the ice yeah yeah all right where are we at wow I won’t spoil it because you don’t want it spoiled right Brad correct although you’re already kind of what do you think it is I would think soberg based on what I how I reacted all right how did you find out I don’t see it on Twitter it’s on the NHL tracker oh oh they’re getting sudy to make the pick that’s nice that’s awesome Ste soberg is it Steen I thought it was San but whatever yeah uh that’s a great haul for the Ducks my God good for them Matt says NBA Connelly Eiserman who makes it to the show first and who has the most goals the rookie year NBN Connelly and who Eiserman oo I think they’re all a year away yeah I think Connelly probably has the best first year goals wise well he’s going to be playing on a well potentially playing on a better team Detroit still has this bad habit of overripening their prospects too so we do have to keep that in mind because even if Bren sigard is a year away doesn’t necessarily mean he’s actually a year away you know what I mean Nick s says by percentage what is the chances of us trading for Marner if so what would be a somewhat realistic package maybe Edinson in a package of picks they would love Edinson yeah Detroit would want to limit they I don’t think Detroit would do that though no they would want they would want to limit it like I could see them moving a Casper type I could see them moving a Johansen or a wer and then future premium picks I don’t think they’d want to give up Edinson they certainly wouldn’t give up any of the core they wouldn’t give up Danielson Axel sandine pel God I love those jerseys apparently there’s another trade in the works interesting any thought on who no I don’t even know what team’s picking right now uh next up is Colorado at 24th and they’re trading out of it don’t know if it’s this pick specifically although I could see Colorado doing that has has there been a swed picked yet let me go back I don’t think there has been Kaden Lindstrom be careful people are going to believe you um no and only and only one Finn two Norwegians before that’s what I was just thinking about two Norwegians more Norwegian so far than fins and swedes combined yeah cuz Conant helenius is the only Finn wow that’s awesome all right how many people do we still have in the Stream how many of you are sickos like us still watching this we still have, 1500 oh that’s awesome uh appreciate everyone tuning in again sorry for the technical difficulties earlier uh if you haven’t already give this stream a thumbs up and subscribe to the channel we just passed 10K subscribers much much much appreciated Andrew Andre the Tyrant says Leo Seline wenus sounds like Detroit Redwing at 47 100% that you could have told me that was the pick and I blocked out and I would have believed you trade alert oh Utah moved up the Utah Utes 30 and 71 whoa 3871 in a 2025 second wow I don’t hate that two seconds and a third to get back into the first round with no 38 and 71 oh yeah yeah I don’t hate that for Utah no it’s not bad Vermilion says when does future considerations get drafted Oh any second now I’m sure he already did Sam Dickinson but unfortunately San Jose decided to keep him who are they going up here for though there’s no obvious candidate here Green Tree yeah maybe Andre they like big Utah legs big maybe they wanted Steen silberg wait what do you mean he just got trapped are they about to do a double pick my God Evan like teleports out of here like Star Trek uh yeah who could it be no one seems obvious to me lar says you want dedication Ryan it’s 3:52 in the morning here and I’m 10 beers at 2 whiskey Steve well that the second part of that answer is the first part yeah interesting DJ Emory EJ emry I could actually see how big is he he’s 63 stean soberg I’ve heard everything no green tree H it’s not no no like no green tree so far that’s what I’m wondering if it’s like he’s probably worth trading up for uh Trent thorough says would Prime fronzen be the best scenario for knard um shooting wise yes you know what I don’t hate it like big physical I think knards got more compete but fronen was just bigger the yeah the better motor with knard but like fronzen was a physical specimen it’s he was they called him the mule for a reason like he would go through you I don’t know if neard can do that I don’t hate that comp it’s obviously not one to one but I don’t hate it in terms of what you can expect production wise yeah you’re probably in range there yeah thank you for uh the donation and Brandon n tried I think I said it earlier as Brad is talking all right Utah on the board and then it’s Boston La Carolina Calgary Dallas New York Toronto Philly San Jose Chicago Anaheim oh I’m into the second round now end it at Philly when do we d gra some new chairs those are the future considerations Brad sign up sign up on patreon so we can get new chairs patreon.com wied wheel podcast I’m not saying I would have sacrificed Jake wman to San Jose to get some new chairs but I’d consider it you can sit on that pillow over there it is often used by Abby she sometimes sleeps in here at night Ah that’s fine oh okay by all means all right is Utah yeah Utah’s going up oh look at them with the coordinated ties well they did that when they were in Arizona still too right they all had matching suits yeah so they kept tradition time well cuz I think there was only two of them up on stage and three of them and two of them were the owners I love that line why are you booing me I haven’t done anything yet fresh squeeze cider $10 donation chair donation thank you so much appreciate it I hate that trade up now who’ they take B Oh yeah talk about your high floor low ceiling pick man they already got te te is their fun pick yeah that’s fair guy’s going to be an elite third liner his whole career you know who uh Elite prospects said says uh their comparison is for Cole bod Andrew cop what a pick oh Andrew cop at 24th overall you can do a lot worse that’s fair who is there what what was their comp for mbn arter linan which I actually think is pretty good yeah that’s not bad C promin said Tyler bzi what that what Tyler pusi shot sucked and he couldn’t Escape it’s just it’s just funny that it’s like it was a Red Wings player why not Anthony mantha I don’t know you know I mean no berzi berzi can not move on the a if you put IBN sking is if you put B’s motor into Anthony mantha maybe if you put B’s motor into Anthony mantha he’d have 90 points a season Fair remember for the longest time where like he’s not he doesn’t have low motor he just his he looks uh lazy cuz his strides are long and then he like get hit behind the net and just sit behind the net and like take an hour to get up and you’re like Jesus yeah like cuz if he got into a race he won most of them and then you’re just oh yeah I haven’t really noticed him in two periods and then he just rip one from the top of the circles and you’re like oh right yeah uh Nick s thank you for the donation says what about Marner for Edinson straight up with an extension every day of the week yeah no doubt and I Toronto doesn’t do that but I don’t think there’s a world where they or sorry Toronto doesn’t do that but I could see their return being not great on Marner depending on how crazy this go uh goes and that’s not a knock on Edinson but if you have a chance to get a 100 point forward and with the direction the Red Wings are trying to go you would want to try to add the offense right would you shop Barren now to try and get into the first round yes uh I don’t love nobody that I would do it for has really Fallen you know what I mean like who’s who’s really jumping out on your board now there’s guys that definitely intrigue me right now but like I don’t know if that’s worth a trade up like Teddy Stiga is really high on my who’s left but I’m not like I could see him just dropping into the second round yeah right the only two guys I can think of right now are shern sh and uh Green Tree those sure yeah but not even so high on them that it’s like a must uh mustard eyes are off yes we did take the pick that everyone was joking was the obvious pick yep it happened it the what other obvious picks mlin celebrini that one doesn’t count but like what player matched the team the most like in terms of predictability yes lunov y Lindstrom demidov Lindstrom was yes yeah the fact that Nash was there was funny yeah we should have seen that coming a mile away we should have seen Kon to Seattle I tried I got talked out of it then we had a run of three guys who shouldn’t have been there get picked so we can’t say that helenus to Buffalo makes sense Bren sigard to Detroit was the most obvious one after celebrini Blake liser thank you so much for the donation says thanks for giving me something to cheer about uh cheer 4 in hockey right now I’m a Wings fan but it sucks when Utah steals a local team I paid $200 to watch the wings lose 4 nothing last year guess I’ll see them in Vegas all that 4 nothing lost that’s 50 bucks a goal oh that sucks oh I’m so sorry you were there for that at least you got to see a hockey in that unique experience yep go to Vegas next time that’s a fantastic Arena it’s only like $300 a ticket but it’s Vegas yeah everything’s so expensive I went to buy Blue Jays tickets this week and almost shot my computer screen is that what happened to mine that’s why the internet went out we shot the rotor instead they haven’t caught the memo of how bad they are this year yeah well they got a brand new renovated Arena or Stadium you need to pay for that it’s tickets everywhere every Pro Sport now like postco Pro Sports tickets are I don’t know any cheap ones anymore here so here I’ll give you just guess just for laugh so baseball game you get like 80 something home games year your team is hot garbage last row of the lower bowl between the Outfield wall and the first base 80 bucks what hundo per seat per game per seat it would and that was American dollars oh my God the website I was looking at so to take my family there would have been almost $500 that is absurd sorry no that wasn’t the game time that was the one directly on the Blue Jays website $400 before taxes and fees no for a team that can’t hit a you can get that hotel room at the the honestly meanwhile I went to one of the like secondary sites and I found upper bowl uh front row for $8 Jared Sparks thank you for the donation says great stream tonight you guys should have will scouch back on he had NBA ant’s board yeah I’m happy to see scouching is back doing his thing we should have him on again it’s been a while we love will the San Jose game was embarrassingly ridiculous yeah there was a couple tough games down the stretch there in in 2024 yeah the last week of the Season being so fun makes it easy to forget how many of those key games down the stretch they lost Sarah that’s a great point about I don’t want the Tigers to stay bad but it is actually Tigers games are very easy to go to I also love Comer Park so much it’s sick oh God I just like that is an elite social outing just like I don’t care if you like baseball or not go to a Tigers game I do not like baseball at all but it’s social yeah yeah everyone’s right about Mar all the things you’re saying but I’m just like those are the issues you complain about once you get to the playoffs no I don’t know I’m not here saying sell the farm for Marner but I I just think you could use the offense if you’re the Red Wings right now it certainly couldn’t hurt all right uh now that the so the Boston Bruins so the Bruins are going to make a good pick because they’re in the Atlantic which is upsetting yep we know how this goes so day two tomorrow for the patrons rounds 2 through 7 and then right after that our our draft review episode what time does round two start tomorrow 11 usually day two HL draft 11:30 okay that’s not bad yeah all right Boston’s up making their pick they’re going for it Boston went for it I didn’t hear the name Dean LNO oh the 6′ s guy who was basically playing Junior J B in Ontario good for him no it’s actually funny like his St Andrew’s College uh preseason every year come down to air to do a like tournament against the siskin the centennials and like a German team which by the way sta did play in that tournament years ago so we could have watched him in air Jes seriously yeah could have but he wasn’t a big name yet he was he was an under he was only like 15 or 16 at the time Dean lero is 67 209 pounds Boston’s pick originally it was Boston’s and then Detroit’s then or sorry Boston’s then Detroits then Ottawa then Boston so it was Boston to Detroit in the bruzi trade and then from Detroit to Ottawa in the de brinka trade and then Ottawa to Boston in the allmark trade yep is mbn the Norwegian Brendan Shanahan polar Baron you trying to turn me on bro uh God also great I’m I’m not talking about Marner all night because it was like a throwaway comment in question but um it’s a great point that you’re going to have to pay him a billion dollars and that’s actually something you have to consider too lero is making Cam Neely look small right now oh that’s a big kid 66214 that’s a big boy that is a big boy can I say something I’m surprised he’s not a red wi 66 they like their big boys how big is knard I thought he was like 61 62 that’s big 61 yeah it’s big it’s not 66 no Evan how tall are you six feet 61 six it’s not special yeah that’s fair uh donation here from he looks like he’s on stilts uh Detroit wings 1090 says hey boys Admiral Matt s here oh hey man uh says great stream in the LC was rocking tonight also got you each a gritty Wall-E bobblehead if you wish to remember him by cheers can’t wait for the next Wing wheel podcast night oh man we are first off that sucks that they uh they had to get rid of their gritty bobbleheads the Walman ones oh yeah uh thank you for grabbing those for us um we are planning our winged wheel podcast nights and you guys don’t know it yet but we have something exciting for for this year’s uh item when you say we don’t know it do you mean Brad and I you and Brad yeah okay yeah I wasn’t listening to at all what we have something exciting planned where do we think Zora events uh ends up David mckinstry I think he goes back to Vancouver in the end seems like the most likely yeah trying to think of who else would have the cap space for him yeah Toronto if they strike out on TANF could see it familiarity there uh Dan I I actually like the comparison there like if you look at players who could be the Tage Thompson type uh Dean lerno there’s a there’s an outcome where he could yeah he’s just he played at such a low level and is so raw like this is like a project pick for sure but that’s the right time to be making a yeah yeah if you’re in the late first these are the exact type of picks you make high upside see what happens right and he’s going to Boston College so he’s going to be playing in their backyard yep all right we have one two three four five six seven picks left in the first round the 2020 for NHL entry draft it’s already after 10:00 oh crap I think they’ll be done by 10:30 so what we’ll do is we’ll see out the rest of the draft we’ll recap our thoughts on the Red Wings pick what to expect anything be done by 10:30 10:45 we’ll recap our uh our thoughts on the Red Wings pick what to look forward to tomorrow we’ll wrap up the stream and then we’ll go from there I think I think teams are scared by the effort conversation around Green Tree I wouldn’t even call it effort I just call it Pace because like they were Windsor was so bad that everything had to go through him so obviously the stats would get a little inflated because someone has to score right La Carolina Calgary Dallas New York Toronto Philly can you trade up to with one of these teams what are you giving up suck if only we had an extra one of those is there anyone on the board that you’re like right now banging the table to trade off no no the boards there’s no real followers here where I’m like oh my God how is that guy still there you got to go get him there’s enough guys like highrisk high upside guys in the second round that I think you can get a lot closer to your pick to trade up for between alons Frey Teddy sta Aaron kaharu chernishof is still there green tree is still there alfons Frey is still there is did E go no yes um BL is gone Andrew basa EJ Emery Ryder Richie I’m reading out our mock draft yeah no no those are binka yeah yeah not they don’t excite me all that much all right large take care have a great night brother all right who is La going for thank you Matt have a great night way better logo oh it’s way better I still think a crown or the purple version of that logo Luke robotti looks like a Luke robai with a white wig on Green Tree there he goes there he goes okay not too much of a drw for Green Tree then yeah not really this isn’t crazy far from where he was expected Green Tree 26 overall to La man from Windsor to La that’s an improvement minor at La is the Windsor of California that is true but he already knows the lifestyle it’s practically you’re going to have to the weather is practically the same there is water right there certain parts of Windsor feel like La I’ll tell you that what parts of LA Under the Bridge Under The Old Bridge hey look man I take the shots at Windsor on this podcast Green Tree equals Anthony mantha 2.0 not the same uh not the same profile but favorite non- hockey athlete Tom Brady bust I forgot you’re a Bills fan is there a chance D try gets Teddy sta at 47 chance yeah I wouldn’t call it a high one and also given the type no chance they take him if he gets there like that’s going to be the hardest thing for me like I’m going to watch all these high skill guys drop to the wings pick knowing full well there’s no chance and they’re just going to pick Ben Danford or somebody boring like that Doug flubit Ben Baron thank you so much for the donation all right I keep scrolling me to the top is that white bar on the bottom of that Jersey too w yes okay Mel saw it she’s like it looks like they’re wearing crop tops I yeah something looked off there and I think that’s what it was so Timmy B says I put a yawning emoji on the wings posting mbn and he liked my post hey he can he can take a joke I like him already oh that’s so good he’s collecting receipts uh the canes are making a are trading their pick to the Blackhawks Chicago going all out for what Kyle from YouTube all right John mustard good point folks oh God I got so many food puns I got mustard on my jersey so you’ll he’s a bit of a hot dog you’ll eat mustard but not onions me yeah those aren’t even remotely related yeah they are I mean they’re not related actually mustard is like a the plant is related to like so many different like that whole family is a anyways it is a very it’s a weird that you you will take one and not the other I agree there in what dimension do those two things taste anything alike I wasn’t saying a like but like what the hell does that even mean then Ben Baron uh thank you for the donation says hey guys just wanted to say join the patreon if you’re still hanging out with us and you uh like the content tomorrow we’re doing a day two day two stream rounds 2 through 7 and patrons get bonus content for every episode we record a bonus episode uh you get access to the Discord you’re automatically entered into all 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like my toes no oh they’re not interested no the hell was that a goal horn why a trade trade hey it’s our friend Eric tulsky all right dogs dogs dogs I’ll bring them in the noises are about to get even weirder than they normally are they are going to fight I promise you they will start wrestling on camera oh this is T’s uh this is T’s appearance first appearance puppies oh God Telly I can hear them oh no hi buddy hello Mr Mis everyone this is Tully he’s very tall and skinny and stupid and he’s an [ __ ] he’s a he Father Like Son yeah ni he makes my big dog Abby look small Abby princess who’s never done anything wrong can we show you to the camera get out of here you suck this is Abby she’s princess no yeah there she is tell don’t go under her such a hi guys hello this stream has gone off the rails yeah it’s 10 it’s quarter after 10 anybody who is expecting it not to this point must be new around here um so fun fact Evan when he uh first started like when the studio first moved here Evan like Evan is a cat guy Evan has always had cats I think and uh he was like I’m not really a big dog person Abby sents that and she is obsessed with Evan uh can you please pet Abby uh she’s obsessed with Evan and their best friends Tully was a Tully warmed up to you guys pretty quick he’s pretty skittish I’m very tan so he probably thinks I’m from his home country yeah that’s right he we he’s from Mexico um yeah you do have to give Abby the the pillow back when she wants it oh is she ready no no Abby is very yeah you guys are all right there’s ab’s very beautiful she’s the most tan one here that’s right she even beat me out and she’s from Northern Ontario and I’m Middle Eastern so she’s she’s really got me beat up so when you guys are donating you’re donating to the dogs because let me tell you they eat uh we had they had a play date with the neighbors today and he snuck into the neighbor’s house and ate their dogs food tell you he is such a prick that’s a great play in this economy he’s only trying to help you out lessen his burden not far off what you know most of us are doing at self checkout honestly I don’t know like he came to us malnourished and so we’ve slowly been building him up and I don’t know why you guys neglect this dog he is in love with me right now no what do you mean do we neglect him he’s just like look at this little face cuz you they smell it on you Evan they’re a glue to you dogs love you even though you’re a cat person Brad I’ll send yours back that’s fine no no the Brad in the chat he’s drooling on me yeah you probably deserve it I meant that as like a good thing uh Sarah you’re right it is aby’s house um Don says how confident do you guys feel moving into the next season if Steve has a very quiet offseason this is Merck vaner I don’t know who that is oh no I do yeah my bad from uh the Battalion Branford I thought yeah oh yeah so stupid oh my goodness Bulldogs yeah my brain down my neck of the woods kind of I didn’t actually go to watch a game there this year I think about it cuz how easy that drive is all right Abby do you want your pillow oh hi prin she wants to come for pets you can come for pets come on so when I edit the podcast I typically sit where Evan is and the dogs will come hang out um with me pretty much the whole time which is a lot of fun all right we are near and on the end here still like five picks though Tully is Irish for calm let me tell you he is not he is if those like uh not even Monster Energy if those energy drinks that are like Swedish Fish flavored were dogs that would be Tully he is and he’s very tall and lanky and he’s very handsy he’s like the Cloverfield monster so he’ll just straight up punch you in the face and he’s not meaning to he’s just excited I I have one of those but it comes with the name Hank yeah boxer yeah they they got that name for a reason did was Tully drooling yes on Dred on my pants he loves you yeah what do you smell like food I don’t know probably smell like zero chance he’s got snacks in his pocket oh can tell you to score goals no who’s like an energy can evade defense pretty well apparently yes oh my God he is Shifty he’s Darren Helm he’s fast he’s Shifty he’ll get his opportunities he almost never converts he drives the other team in insane that’s Darren Helm Abby you’re Bron Shanahan you’re a power forward oh yeah all right enough pup well not never enough pup talk we have Calgary up at 28th overall next going to get lots of puppies in the Stream tomorrow oh yeah cuz I’ll be broadcasting from the couch in my basement and that’s one of roxxy’s favorite spots because our basement is cold yeah what all right I don’t know what your dog wants Ron she likes your pets okay I can do that all right we still have a few picks left what are you doing I believe Calgary’s pick is in or they’re on the clock anyone that you think is uh like guaranteed to go at this point guaranteed I think no we’re at the wide open part of the draft hi tell like I’m surprised uh Emory and ellic haven’t gone yet given how valuable big defenseman who can skate are so I’d be S not shocked but I’d be a little surprised if they both got out of the first round I agree I think Emory goes who the hell okay are we supposed to know who these guys are no you think if you’re going to spend all that money on you know a trip to Vegas you’d get an updated Flames jersey they all have goodro jerseys it’s like the traveling y yoggers except it’s of sadness yeah not as I mean that c could stand for Columbus I don’t know okay go please you can send the dogs out if you want Brad I don’t care yeah that’s better okay so I wrote on Twitter like on my mbn analysis at the I was like Ean really is Z on his offense too also pray for Mickey Redmond I have to remember jokes on the internet that aren’t fully explained mhm everyone’s like what’s wrong with Mickey I’m like nothing oh no yeah just attach that at the we’re just going to attach an in memorium at the end of a prospect Scouting Report like Mick’s fine Mick’s Mickey’s a spring chicken it’s just hard to pronounce the names Evan is like imagine warnky coming to Detroit that’s there there’s your Sam Cosentino’s best available Bas chernishof yeah I keep forgetting about chernishof being there Leo Solin wenus pray for Mickey well we didn’t get an Eiserman maybe we get a how in the second round yeah that’d be funny imagine they took both is and how that solved all our problems okay dare I make the complaint they’re taking too long for pick 28 yes of course they are Grine sure Matt V Grine Muskegan he’s a lumberjack honest question is Stam Coast a good fit for the system I don’t see it having his 40 goals would be nice but it would keep the power play sustained who’s feeding him the puck is the question right that’s the tough part Patrick Kane MC says Evan is so used to petting cats you can see the anxiety of getting bit or slashed oh there’s no anxiety it’s just very awkward they’re much larger uh Eric says would you take trouba no retention and 30th overall do you like anyone at 30 right now I think you kind of do I’m just trying to think who I would take with it chernishov yeah maybe chernishov I’d consider sta yep Pon I’m still I’m still a Bas guy there Bas is good I think you can wait a bit on basa uh brph says uh remember to stay fresh cheese bags and Darren fix says hi guys first time long time Tully equals Elite can Basha fall to 47 great timing I think basa could fall to 47 would you move up to take a chance on him I’ll hang up and listen I wouldn’t spend a fortune to move up but i’ I’d move up as much as like a a spare mid- round pick would allow me to to move up for basa I like him yeah yeah like how far does a fourth get you right if you’re trying to get potential high-end production adding Bas to the system I mean there’s questions about where that that came from yeah but how many times have you seen guys where it’s like was that him or his teammates or the system and it turns out sometimes it was him and you get them out of Great Value we’re at the point man just take a swing like that’s all I want from Detroit we don’t need more depth defenseman we don’t need more 200 depth forward 200 foot depth forwards just it’s going to be the theme of tomorrow please God find the guy who’s got the highest upside I don’t care how big the risk is you’re once you get into the pass pick like 45 doesn’t matter they’re not likely to pan out anyway but then pick someone if they do hit they hit big basa would be perfect hall for trueba done Rangers aren’t doing that could the wings maintain their spot in the standing with less scoring but better goaling inherently yes in theory yes which they don’t have right now nbn’s Jersey is going to look like uh Jared uh Salto malakia salta lakia how long ago did he retire oops yeah whatever it’s baseball it makes me sad seeing all the the past Tigers aces all right feel free to get your questions in the chat we still have over a thousand of you in here I’ll do a last call if you haven’t already subscribe to the channel uh there’s a video coming out Saturday night there is if you subscribe to the patreon you can join our patreon day 2 live hangout uh and there’s a lot of other great benefits but yeah subscribe to the channel thumbs up on the video if you haven’t already all right Dallas up next then New York then Toronto then Philly then we wrap Dallas feels like uh they’re going to swing for someone here doesn’t it they have a good record have a lot of good picks on that team I hate when other teams scouting staff know what they’re doing really annoying I hate when they other team’s GM that knows what he’s doing used to be on Detroit yeah uh well it’s not like he’s won back toback executive the years or anything like that yeah how much does that details uh is Jared G better than Josh Allen I wish he was I think Jared Goff was sorely underrated but even I guess I was lost on Jared G and he gof he proved me wrong Nathan mcken says give us some juicy Insider info Ryan it’s pretty well reported but a lot of what like we’re hearing most substantially is the whole Kane situation he’s set on basically there’s hard ball right now and there’s no reason for this to break before free agency happens but he wants his three years the numbers the the actual price I can’t pin down but for him I think the term and a team that he thinks can win is the most important thing I think he would I think he would come back to Detroit he likes in Detroit that fits good I think he would love to go to the Rangers I haven’t heard of any one meeting him at his three-year offer I think the Red Wings are really keen on a one-year deal for Kane I don’t think Eiserman is he like he’s not gotten to three I don’t even know if he’s offered to I heard that at some point but I’m not sure if that actually materialized I don’t know which side would do it if at all but yeah Ean stuck at one Kane stuck at three he’s going to go to market to see if anyone meets him at three but Detroit is still an option how much is too much for Matt Roy jeez that’s a tough one I’ll look up the the contract projection yeah that’s about right for Heming why not they’ve now Finland has caught up to the Norwegians good for no way that’s awesome I like the he pick I think that’s a good one all right donation here from Christian Colo says which two scenarios would you rather have trade for eers and sign Stam Coast or trade for Nate chass and sign Kane Nate chass and Kane yeah the second one yes but I will say elers is a much bigger impact guaranteed to your team n just three or four years older though yeah how old is I want to Sayers is 28 maybe 29 he’s 28 at the start of this year yeah and then Ness is 25 so I think that’s the tradeoff there yep yeah that’s very fair all right given this state of the Red Wings if you wanted to nitpick I think they have a bigger need for a playmaker than a shooter I need I mean they need both but they have like no true Playmakers Matt Roy’s predicted term is 5 years at .1 34 o I don’t know if I like that that’s one of those guys too like there is the risk is he going to be that good outside of La I I do think he is a big reason why I think he’s good but yeah that seems heavy but with expanded cap how heavy is that a lot yeah that’s fair I still really like the player though oh yeah yeah there’s there’s a lot to like about him it’s just man that’s a hell of a risk to take that’s a lot berren next year’s first and third Hall at 30% retained and whoo for Gibson and zis beIN next year’s first and third first of all NHL GMS are not that creative Hall 30% retained Hall and whoo for Gibson and zis okay so what zrus would be what the the first plus yeah so the first in Barren is zis Gibson would be contract swap for Hall essentially sure not terrible is that really the contract projection for Roy that’s steep that seems like a lot my God I’d rather just [ __ ] bite the bullet and over pay for Tana for a couple years at that point Aaron Stark 19 you guys have that cat friendly replacement site up and running yet oh we can’t even get the stream running with two picks away from Detroit’s pick I have never been more stressed in my life yeah you were blinking a lot that was the worst thing that’s ever happened is that your nervous tick I don’t know blink a lot I’ve never been that stressed before I’ll show up late to something tomorrow or something and I’ll get Brad to take some videos I teed off at 14 today with the entire ground’s crew oh God behind me oh no I was like I have Bambi I have I had already chunked a t-shot On a par three earlier and so I was like this is going to happen I’m going to I’m going to throw up oh no hit the green oh wow hit the green two par 14 14 the par three that’s uh below you oh yeah yeah yeah that’s a good one the one with the wind the one with the window yeah Rock I know exactly which one you’re talking there’s always if you see no wind at 14 there’s wind yeah yeah you’re right all right have we found out what those future considerations are yet very likely to be nothing very very likely to be nothing we still have the Rangers on the clock Toronto and then Philly before we conclude the first round we’ll do a recap of the mbn pick and then we will wrap it up for the night hold on does EJ emor seem like a Rangers pick to you is it because Darren drer just tweeted that did he actually yeah I can see the future Miller comparisons Rangers expected to take EJ Emery yeah that’s that tracks I can see two seconds into the future wow good for you probably showed up in the chat and I missed it yeah it’s in the chat right there I probably just saw it okay in the chat didn’t even Amry is a player I thought would might have gone a lot higher yeah I I had the vibe he was going early 20s so it’s a little surprising to see him fall this far DF says a buddy of mine carded 47 over today and counted it towards his handicap that’s what I was doing I started golfing last year I put in all those scores I need to know exactly how bad I am I had five birdies today still shot a 79 Jesus that’s chaotic it’s the only shapes on that scorecard you can almost pinpoint where he started uh drinking along that round oh my God Christian says Evan did you see the US Senior Open where a guy got back to back hole in ones yeah I did see that today one the he back toback hole in ones still W over on that nine oh my God how that is crazy though I think there’s a chance some people are mad that the Rangers got Emy I just don’t think there was a chance he was going to fall to this like I don’t love em though I don’t like his hockey IQ or his offensive upside really I think he like for this late in the yeah it’s worth the gamble here but I just wasn’t as high on him as a lot of other people were he’s good I think he’ll be he can skate and beat people up yeah he’ll be a good stay-at-home defenseman uh Nick there’s a pretty good chance if stamp Coos goes to Market that Detroit’s the team eisman’s familiar he likes him he freed up cap space now I wonder if the whole I don’t like giving term thing will hold with Stam Co so if it’s Stam Co for 3 years even if you wanted to really stretch it then well does stamp Coast like Steve Eiserman didn’t it worked out for him he got a cup got two cups that’s fair almost three cups now here’s okay we got to address the elephant in the room he doesn’t get his number or no or no God you imagine does he wear number 90 or 92 does why don’t they just switch the one and the nine why don’t just get rid en 91 it was Steven Stam Co yeah just get rid of the one then just fine uh Eric yes so I’m from Windsor R across from Detroit these guys are from the region we’re in now um y Wings Over the Leafs Windsor split 50/50 mostly between Detroit and the Leafs and these guys just had excellent hockey taste for being Red Wings fans for where they grew up Eisman for you lrom for you right that’s what did it yeah I don’t remember why I start for the wings I was too young I have no idea yeah Eiserman was my guy like he was my favorite player of all time but I also loved loved loved pavl ber around the same era growing up and I never cheered for the Canuck so I don’t know are these guys still in here yeah they were na in oh that’s cute they just like to be around you NHL role model Keandre Miller that’s really nice look at me that’s that’s nice wait did they say that or it was on the board would you trade the second tomorrow for Gibson at 4 million a no no well I don’t know what’s the second worth anymore when the Red Wings are picking it basically nothing I don’t shut up Brad so annoying man how about your Hanson’s going to do great next year that was five years ago it’s eight years ago [ __ ] people don’t forget all right questions in the chat if folks would like EJ Emery just got picked to the Rangers prob not a great sign when they’re showing your highlight re and it’s a couple block shots hell yeah brother thoughts on trading for Rucker MCG Gordy I’m all over trading for Rucker MCG what what do we have to give up in that trade what does that trade even look like like I don’t think as second and Barren gets it done you go second berren wender I don’t think Winnipeg wants quantity you go second Barr Johanson I don’t think they want quantity I think they want someone who’s going to help on the roster right now you go Jake wman would have made a lot of sense unironically yeah they would have that one we’re I’m we’re writing off as we don’t know like there’s just information we don’t have oh 100% we are definitely missing a big piece of that puzzle the thing with the Apex here mentions resending ghost gos of Spar could very well now come back depending on what happens with this cap space yep uh Keith Das says do you think the Red Wings would trade fabri I think he’s a prime candidate to be traded yeah doesn’t quite fit the mold of how the Red Wings want to play decent offensive upside but it’s a lot for what four mil yeah I think he does well I think he he scores efficiently in his role but you don’t want to be paying your depth forwards 4 million yeah no 100% Herman the German merman this is a great question mbn or hanzik oh mbn right yeah for sure you were horrified it was going to be hanzik last year I was I still blame Max for that one would love to still try to trade for gas he came cheap who’s the Redwing starting goalie in opening night Brent gillet uh I’ll guess lion yep I’ll go lion as well oh man Darren Fick says Philly still needs to make a move did nothing happen with their rumored trade with Ottawa i’ take a flyer on Joel far farby I would too yeah I would all I heard was the pun well let me Philly you in on what he was saying please stop please stop I can’t take this Toronto you don’t need to take this long they’re making such a meal of it and they did this their first time too yeah before they traded it people wonder why everyone hates the leaves bench start trade Hall Abdul cater Evan um start Abdul cator so I can hear the lady in the crowd yell come on abdor trade hall because you need to get her the contract bench Evan cuz he needs it cuz he’ll be gassed after 10 seconds on the ice that is a fact I’ve never met a more athletic person who is guaranteed to be Gass in their first shift back than Evan that’s when the cardio starts oh when you’re breathing heavy on the ice yeah it’s when the from his chest going in and out so training starts yeah it’s therapeutic breathing it’s how my dogs are when they go outside in the Heat or right now if sto signs does he immediately get an A I think so actually that’s got to be part of like the well who are they taking it away from from no who cares I’m just curious to see what number out of 1991 and N he’d pick you could go two nines I can’t look at Brad why something funny is about to happen SGA I won’t spoil it I think that’s the only pick on the board right now that would hell yeah Brad literally said earlier they’re gonna go up there and pick like Ben Danford or something I don’t know who you’re talking about but the Red Wing second round pick that’s funny all right let us edit imitation Bill Ranford goes late in the first to the Lea one more pick I got a buddy who’s a scope for the Le I should just text them what what I don’t know man how’s over rules what’s your percentage chance on Bell andov making it um 30 yeah I’d call it 35 which I think whatever a guy of his physical stature draft in the second round their average percent chances he did well over in Russia this year he didn’t like blow things out of the water he didn’t do poorly he did well I think he tracked well there’s still a little bit of the rushan question but I’m not terribly concerned about that right now that’s actually the trend that way is improving can he hang in the NHL it’s really hard to judge because there’s not really a comp over there so I think 35 is yeah about there did you see that he was over in North America training yeah he was at a with like um Brady Cleveland uh hov’s kid yep uh the the second round pick Dylan James yeah yep danford’s a reach there right oh yeah but who there East Cowan was also seen as a reach Fair EP had Danford at 30 though all right and he’s an OHL yeah okay they um they do need D Doug weight comp for mbn I think it’s impossible to compare across Generations but I I love the fun of it so hell yeah dog way was a great playmaker though I don’t see that with mbn mbn is more of a shooter Dan Benford is what I’m going to say in my head the every time I see his name Bill Ranford yeah it’s actually Dreer says trade wins are blowing what does that mean if someone trades the 30 second goddamn pick I’m going to lose my mind you can call me and tell me who it is on the drive home Philly don’t you dare why Philly uh Eric Hill says not to toot your own horn but how close to actual info do you do you guys get early and can’t spill the beans uh painful amount it’s not even like sometimes it’s like hey this is off the Record and you just can’t say anything because you have to take that for what it is and sometimes you get something that like you’re 99% sure on like in yourself but like journalistically you you can’t get a double confirmation for example so you can’t go on it and so it sucks but that’s even worse would be going out there on like whatever your shirt cuz inevitably things change yeah inevitably things change and so you have to be be careful with it it’s Edmonton moving into the first round oh okay Ken Holland with one last harra yep I thought he wasn’t here he he’s not no they told him to leave they very much told him to leave he had a very much you can’t fire me I’m quitting quote the other day what’s funny about Ken Holland is I got like we got news that he was retiring last year like last season and then it morphed and as it always does with Ken Holland it’s never he’s he wants to keep going I I don’t understand what else could he possibly want to do go play Oakland Hills every day man I know I don’t get it have you you’ve heard how he is with golf right he’s like he’s he likes pace and he’s like no disrespect but if you’re over like ex handicap oh yeah I’ve heard of that I know yeah I did know this he’s like I’m not he doesn’t want you messing around in like the woods like I wouldn’t I would never go play with him well he wouldn’t invite you your handicap be like get the [ __ ] out of my face he’s like is that a 21 like they go that high he’s like why is your 12 revers yeah yeah I have heard that that’s crazy I respect that though same man he’s like I got only got so much time not interested Brad says h how long did you guys know about Kane until you could say something about it uh the day before no we I was working on that for a few days remember oh yeah yeah yeah okay actually it was over a weekend too yeah perfect Kane’s a perfect example so I was working on that on Kane for like a good while and I didn’t go on what I had almost confirmed was the the contract cuz the first contract that I thought that that was like that the information that I had like I had I had the nature of how it came about I had when it would be announced the contract solid I had was 3 years and I just couldn’t get the final confirmation and I was like well I I can’t go with this and it ended up being a year deal and it shocked me I was talking to other a couple other people who they break news and they shocked them too and it’s like yeah that’s why you you have to be responsible with it but Kane the Kane one did come about fast but it was over the course of like I want to say a week the big piss off one was still that one time my phone rang at midnight on a fateful Thursday in April 2019 oh that was funny oh my God you literally woke me up dude we have to talk yeah yeah what’s up I got some information I don’t know if we can run it yeah yeah sitting on the Eiserman news oh my God and then both of us just scrolling to see if it was anywhere cuz like that came out of nowhere yeah nobody posted we’re like all right we’ll we’ll sleep on it we’ll wake up in the morning and see what we think of it and by the time we woke up I forget someone had broke it uh was it button no was it Gordon Miller Gordon Miller and we were still starting out so we didn’t have the connections we probably could get the confirmation pretty quick if it happened today yeah that one hurt though that would have been the one that put us on the map yeah it’s but we made the right call I think CU imagine we were wrong about that oh yeah we tank our reputation before we even get started that one sucked but hey exciting the next day was exciting oh my god get the trade over with I bought my driver on April 19th 2019 it was like Christmas morning what a day what kind of driver is that was it the Sim was that the Sim year or is that the M wait wait wait wait the the Oilers just traded for the 32 pick and gave up a first round pick yeah it’s they 2025 or 2026 first that’s a hell of a bet to make yeah who the [ __ ] do they believe in that much that they’re going up for it here and inconveniencing the ever living hell out of all of us yeah that’s a great Point social media G says well I guess Leon’s coming back they really like to drag out the Stanley Cup Final they really want to drag out this first round of the draft Yeah Eric Hill how often do the connections lead to starting a podcast ET of us getting the connections after gaining respect that was the lad for us our connections all came from the doing the show we had very few to start do they finally retire his number this year I don’t know they still haven’t done federov right so yeah they’re waiting for stamp Co flying broo says Brad needs a beer this is what’s unfortunate about Mel not being here today is we couldn’t do a beer delivery up here how’s yours oh it’s been empty for since like the 18th pick all right wow social media G you called that perfectly and that concludes the first round do you want to spoil Brad sure oh Sam o riy oh oh oh riy Auto Parts okay let’s do that’s the first round we’re going to shut this off let’s do a quick recap before we wrap up here and then we will wrap up for the night the Red Wings 15th over actually let’s recap how the entire first round went because yeah CU that was a ride so mlin celebrating to the San Jose Sharks first overall sure expected ardam le le shof to Chicago second overall sure Becket senica to Anaheim third you hearing that you you’ve been hearing that that that was a possibility but that’s still a big move Kaden Lindstrom to Columbus fourth expected makes sense but now your every pick that’s not demidov is is not demidov right yeah Ian demidov to Montreal at 5ifth that’s what they’ve been dreaming about for a year now tjin to Utah at 6 was wild hell yeah uh Carter yakimchuk to Ottawa at seventh Berkeley kten to Seattle at e8th who didn’t go D they went with the high-end offensive upside zann perck highend offensive upside to Calgary at nine Anton salv to New Jersey at 10 Sam Dickinson to San Jose at 11 Z buam to Minnesota at 12 jet luchenko to Philly at 13 constant helenus to Buffalo at 14 Michael brzeg negard to Detroit at 15 let’s recap that pick again we’ll be repeating ourselves but just for the sake of it who is he as a prospect what did he feel about the pick other players on the board what’s where does he fit into the system upside all of it well let’s get how we feel about the pick out of the way first boring come on the most predictable picking the draft Beyond celebrini like the eisman’s type lives but doesn’t mean he’s not a good player he’s really really good 200 foot player you know ultra high compete we’ll call it plus skating uh Wicked shot has to work on you know length of his release but that’s something that can easily be worked on okay playmaker I don’t love it I don’t think that’s going to be a huge calling card of his in the NHL good enough to at least keep the other team honest but yeah he’s a north south player who who can play in the cycle because again he’s big strong Works real hard he’s just got to play with someone who’s going to be able to get him the puck in space so he can utilize that shot cuz I I do worry at the NHL level that he won’t be able to get enough space on his own to really fully utilize that shot but if paired properly could be an absolute weapon on the wing what I like about him of course is the shot it’s like a top what shot in this draft five at worst 10 no I think five is worst oh okay yeah and like the all the things he mentioned the Eiserman type that’s not meant to be a call it boring it’s still a great thing 200 foot game he has the size already which is great for his frame he is a dogged player he’s hard on the puck he not the world’s best skater but like he uses his skating well but that doesn’t come at the expense of a high-end offensive attribute is it a Cole Eisman shot no is it still a high-end shot in this draft yes yes and that to me is what’s promising because I think he has the toolkit to potentially do a lot of things there he has a like I think he has a high floor but that doesn’t also mean he like doesn’t have a a high ceiling like I think he could be a high like a a high-end player if he combines some pretty unique Tools in combination but if his most likely outcome is a middle six Winger who can be a threat on the power play and is super reliable for you at all of the ice that’s a great outcome for 15th overall was he absolutely number one on my board no but he was tied for second I think is where I had him did he had the highest offensive upside of the players that were there I don’t think so was he the most complete player there I think yes and so I really and we taled since we started talking about him legitimately the only negative other than like unless you want to swing for the fenses on highend offensive upside is the pick’s just predictable but that’s it I like the player a lot yeah he doesn’t have dynamic or ex High tier skill or creative skill but he does everything extremely well God I could just C are you talking about I know I know ultimately that’s how I feel but I’m trying to there are a lot of interesting traits about mbn as well like you guys mentioned a shot I think he has a physical Edge as well that he uses all the time so yeah like you said was he the highest upside at 15 no definitely not but was he you know the most well-rounded player at that pick I would say probably yes yeah I I do wonder how the conversations went with players like Connelly or he for not good for them to go where they did but yeah with mbn is the we talked about at the moment of being drafted too hakan Anderson and now the scouting and development team including you know Nick cronwell and Nicholas lrom and everyone else over there hakan Anderson has a great track record for a reason so yeah the red booms lean on him but it’s generally gone well and if you think about okay you want to put these guys in like the irman type bucket what other players are in there Danielson doesn’t have the shot that NBN has but has some other things that I think make him a better Prospect overall Casper I I think mbn like if you hold him up to Casper this isn’t a slight on Casper but I think mbn has more upside I agree and he was drafted later and that’s just the nature of this draft it’s for 15th overall I think there were concerns that it was going to be a lot worse of a pick in terms of the need the Redwing in the Red Wings needed more forward Talent remains to be seen whether he is the most talented player to add in but I I do maintain that I think he’s the most projectable as like an everyday NHL yeah rounds two through seven any names jumping out at you for round two SL what are you looking for from Steve Eisman for the rest of the picks more upside chernishov stega mustard kaharu I’m sure I’m forgetting a couple but those are the ones that come basa those are the ones that come to mind immediately Bas to me I don’t I don’t necessarily think it’s likely he makes it to 47 but I think he can there’s a lot of names in there there I don’t find that there’s a like a brock Faber of yester year that’s falling right now Faber didn’t fall he he wasn’t projected too far off where he went who was the the Flyers pick the goal scorer Brink yes Bobby Brink yeah I remember I remember when he fell everyone was like oh you could potentially get him not a lot of those names standing out to me again not a very draft pick year for Detroit they have just one pick in each round except for the seventh where they have two any general Mo of what you’re looking for upside I can’t beat that to death enough upside we don’t need more depth defenseman and depth forwards if one guy if someone there has one leg and has one eye but can shoot the puck like nobody we’ve seen in a generation please take that guy we will take the Pirates like they have what seven picks tomorrow if you swing for the highest upside guy on all of them and only one makes the NHL that’s it’s a massive win yeah baser or sta people are mentioning sta in the chat sta would be good yeah I really like sta yeah okay our 2024 NHL entry draft live stream is wrapping up thank you to all of you who are tuning in there is still 780 of you in here just one more time if you can subscribe to the channel uh we’re releasing a a draft 2024 NHL entry draft Red Wings review in full tomorrow night uh give this video a thumbs up uh and wherever you get your podcast subscribe to the show as well if you want to go above and beyond and support the show we’re able to do things like this uh because of our patrons so patreon.com podcast if you want to support the show you get access to our patreon exclusive Discord to keep this conversation going you also get access to our bonus overtime episodes which record right after 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