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I should not bet because I’ve got three events to lose money on next week and realistically am I going to hit a winner here no ENT a experience experience [Music] experience P Mayo experience experience welcome to the pat Mayo experience presented by Underdog fantasy code Mayo at Underdog fantasy right now get yourself a deposit bonus of up to2 50 bucks John Deere classic picks bets one and done a recap of the rocket mortgage all with Jeff Feinberg who’s on the line right now did you feel the pain of Cam young breaking his driver as you watched your money go down the tubes I didn’t have any money on them Oh I thought you bet him NOP didn’t bet him good restraint uh yeah no I was and my friend one of my good buddies joked that this is going to be just like Ricky the rocket mortgage is going to be the event where the guy who you like wins but you don’t bet him NOP I mean I was kind of cheering for him because it was the guy I I had money on minwoo and I was cheering for cam young because I want the monkey off his back but what he did yesterday Pat it will probably offset all the good golf he’s kind of played in the last couple weeks despite going ful cam young numerous points where next time we all get together he’ll probably have big big odds again cuz he’s an even bigger loser today than he was a week ago in some respects I mean his inability those par fives man it is it is incredible it is because he even broke his driver then he goes three with three wood he’s on in two he still doesn’t make a birdie it’s like he goes three with three wood on in two you’re like how does this guy not Crush so many more par fives week in week out and he just doesn’t he can’t he can’t help himself oh my God I yeah no didn’t bet him though not even in secret was not doing it 16 to one was not doing it was not doing it because of the P I didn’t think he’d hit enough putts and I don’t think he made any long putts I don’t think he made any long putts when he made his putts he was sticking them really tight I don’t think he made that any real putts through four days either you could have bet on Keith Mitchell like I did and he didn’t make a putt he just missed everything from four feet including to miss the cut on Friday I bet a lot of losers I bet Stephen Jagger I bet pendrith I bet uh more other losers I had been woo though so again we were close um you know don’t cry for I’m not you know people complained last week that I turned like I was a bit of a pity party sure another second place I’m not doing any of that pity party [ __ ] my second place resume will go up against anybody’s but again I wasn’t involved in this beat because I didn’t have Cam young and I didn’t have I didn’t I didn’t have baa um you won’t be able to tell me that the that our friends who lost on on ache wouldn’t that doesn’t kill like so much more than any Scotty loss like all of them like that was there that was there when Scotty gets here it’s different yeah I missed the six-footer you know my point being benan missed a four-footer like those ones hurt so much more than when Scotty nips you it doesn’t matter where Scotty comes from doesn’t matter where Scotty comes from because we got to make money when Scotty’s not playing and like so many of you I didn’t bet Bryon at the US Open so I don’t have like yeah you have all your second places you had that great cash a couple weeks ago I didn’t get that so we’re swimming here and you told me what’s coming up so I’m worried yeah NE next week we have the Scottish open we have the former barbasol whatever the hell that’s called now and live valderama so three events next week and there’s probably a Euro now I guess the Euro Tour event is the Scottish open because it’s a co-sanctioned event but yeah so three ways to lose money next week three events before a major okay and unlike other Majors I don’t have this Futures card I got like one or two Futures bets so I actually have to bet the major this this this time so that’s gonna three events gonna I can’t resist I like all those tournaments there’s going to be guys I want to bet in each of them I bet yeah whatever um I I I bet baa for the open on the weekend at 150 to1 seemed like a really big number his numberers going to be shorter than that it has to be yeah and and he seems to be Evergreen at the moment like hard courses birdie Fest like he lingers I’m not saying he’s want like at some point like oh he’s playing beautifully as a there was a point in the US Open he was just playing beautifully uh what an incredible yeah what an easy so many guys in because I don’t find young is dislikable as a lot of people do so I truly enjoyed a lot of the people playing for that tournament yesterday like it was a group of young players that I really enjoy all of them um so that was fun and minwoo every day Pat every day maybe other than one three of the four days minwoo did something so [ __ ] stupid in my mind he should have W it like 22 under every day he did something so [ __ ] stupid or just golf every day he got got or got himself once a day three of the four days all we needed was Alex noren to make the cut and be in contention and it literally would have been a wheel of losers fineberg leaderboard didn’t bet norin either that was a good move I made but I bet yagger in that zone so I got like I think he played worse than all of those guys um you mentioned the benan loss at Sony that would have been really bad and even Keegan if you had him at Sony as well like both losing to Grayson in that playoff but a three putt on the final hole going from a a putt to win that was you know it wasn’t it was makeable yeah if anything and then he three putts it to lose and like a lot of people had OE this weekend like that’s a devastating loss and an nine-footer on 177 that puts him up to you just feel like okay got this crazy to hear how hard 18 was playing all day I think that sort of came from the up and downs as I was watching or listening on the radio yeah that’s a bad one the worst one is still in Europe uh the friends who bet the soda BG and he missed like a one and a half footer or something that’s still the worst in the golf entire ecosystem from a PGA perspective this one is probably the worst the wor the one stings uh just but you know because that’s just so much like it’s I don’t have to if I want to listen to some damn Patrick today I’m not going to hear about this three putt yesterday you know that Rory thing is gonna live um but yeah I think this would probably be the worst PGA beat of the year three putting the 18th green at the rocket [ __ ] mortgage I sorry to a friends uh and and maybe it’s hyperbole of the moment for me but as you just laid that out sounds pretty [ __ ] and it it’s funny Cameron Davis goes into the final round like one back of the lead he only shot a 70 on Sunday and that was good enough and talk about there were a couple people who hit him obviously I saw some tickets floating around I was not one of those people the other scam you or scam young loses scam Davis ends up winning his second rocket mortgage but he had no form coming into this event like you were just basically betting Talent versus this field nothing he had done in the past six months not just Talent it was the course fit he had this consecutive run of rounds in the 60s on this golf course and pretty much everyone who bet him other than my boy our boy G uh Matt Ganon who’s like a true Cam Davis truther um most people in such a [ __ ] field were like I don’t like any of these guys I’m just betting Cam Davis 7075 to one and what a great hit what a fun one so credit credit to um credit to all even Aaron Ry like I don’t know people give him you know I I don’t know you wear two gloves you got the the dividers it’s all weird but I don’t I don’t hate them like I enjoyed everyone up there wait who who hates Aaron Ry I feel like everyone loves very unlikable two gloves iron covers who cares um there is a whole portion of PE like that is a total like out that is like a red ink thing for people I mean I mean you know his story about the iron covers it’s a pretty Charming story yeah he wasn’t obviously his dad had to work a hard to pay for those clubs and he takes care of something that he knows his dad worked hard for right that’s like pretty much the just of it take care of things yeah take care of your possessions expensive ones treat them yeah that makes total sense get rusted in the get rusted in the rain or something he’s got covers yeah you have the total justos of Cam young who’s snapping drivers on the T box and the guy who takes care of his clubs because you know that was his upbringing yeah that was not a good that was not a good look that was not a good look cam was just starting young was just starting to smile again on the golf course ah yeah now it’s that’s a polarizing thing to do so now it’s you sort of get on more people’s Radars than the really hardcore golf fan and Us Golf betters who have either been trying to catch the Breakthrough or just mocking people um that’s not yeah that’s I don’t approve of that I I don’t care either way I know tons of people listen I snapped a club on the course I get I get it like I’m very much in I’m very much in that mindset like know I don’t have a 60 Dee wedge anymore it got snapped over my knee after one too many blades over the green my game is a lot better without it in my bag by the way I just can’t hit that club but it becomes so endlessly frustrating when you can’t do what you do and there’s some people that are just wired that way and I don’t think he was like like I think he was mad and he was like you know what if this breaks it breaks whatever I don’t think he would if he really wanted to break it he would have snapped it over his knee Bo Jackson style I have never been mad enough I’ve never thought I was good like you know would you think you need to be to break your golf club yes that’s how I I may ask someone who’s broken golf clubs yes I get it like it’s such an insane concept oh I’ve seen a my buddy like just launch a brand new like $555 driver break that thing I’m looking at I’m like you’re [ __ ] psychopath like the the hots on you to think that you’re so good that ah oh that that oh my God okay whatever yeah I agree I don’t think he was trying to break it but he broke it and he still went three-wood 3 wood on the green and two and three puted I thought the weather made it fun yesterday right I mean I’m not going to lie to you I I kind of tuned in on the back nine and watched how it all came down it is Canada Day here in Canada I mean I suppose it is Canada today around the world as well so to shout out to all of our Canadian viewers who are celebrating obviously all of our American American friends are going to be celebrating independence day on the 4th I learned that date from President Bill Pullman so you know those aliens come you got to knock them out celebrate your independence day it’ll be all good do people take the Friday off I assume they do if it’s on a Thursday you take Thursday off take the day off Friday it’s like a four- day weekend yeah you would think so absolutely and Hey listen just putting this out there for all our American friends I suffered a crushing blow in a debate I got crushed and I still came back and won an election but I think Biden was taking the Playbook of you from the custy debate just showed up in coma toast maybe uh he’s like fber one maybe I’ll do it too yeah maybe so there is precedent you know as as people have noted historical precedent for getting like absolutely crushed and then still being able to hold on um you can put me on those on those lists and yeah happy Canada day it’s early on a holiday Monday and we’re here talking some John Deere course of course let’s get into the odds for the John Deere classic pretty good field uh all things being relative like klay’s in the field spe’s in the field klay’s 9 to1 spe 16 straa the defending champ is 18 sunj is 20 Aaron Ry coming off a second place finish he has been lights out Tia green for three months now he probably wins next week at the Scottish I just I like his I trust his putter a little bit more on those Fescue greens over in the UK Denny’s 28 Keith Mitchell’s 28 Davis Thompson’s 30 day is in this field He’s 33 Poston won this event two years ago he’s 35 to one you know Cam Davis is playing again this week he’s 40 so those are all the guys 40 and under like once you get past that it’s like a real who’s who of like which ran like we have our regular wheel of losers but this is like the the the Beast Squad of the wheel of losers when you get to like Ben Griffin and Mark hubt and Eric Cole Taylor Montgomery your guy Bo Hustler he’s like 55 to one so it it really has like a top four to me looking at it like you could just make one bet and bet Patrick Klay and be on your way I could see him just kind of running away with this obviously spe has won this twice this was the spot of his big breakthrough win in 2013 won again in 2015 but sunjay just kind of sticks out like a sore thumb here at 20 to1 yeah of the high-end players he would be my favorite one because I mean I would argue I don’t think this I guess like re comparatively maybe this field is strong I think this could be the worst field of the year mean I feel like we’ve said that three four times already this year it’s missing that the Chris Kirks and keegans of the world aren’t here but it has like four real guys in it I guess but if we’re actually talking about golf skill like Jordan spe is a 50 to1 golfer who’s being propped up so I don’t give him like the field strength credit despite him being the draw certainly the draw and that’ll get the kids out um I’m actually shocked cley’s nine to one I thought it would be lower I think if if like kentley was Tommy Fleetwood in some weird way because I’m taking the one of the most likable and saying he’s the most dislike able players I feel like it would be a shorter number in some respects the fact that kentley’s unlikable I think this is a fair number I love I Tru I’m not betting it I’d rather see him lose I think he could be distracted because because we’re in um Western Illinois we’re in the midwest there’s a lot of open terrain and and small towns and just chance for him to hide something he could be preoccupied so just you know just I don’t know anything I have to say that to you know Pat can’t be liable I don’t know anything I don’t know anything this is all just my own conjecture so he could just be busy at night um but I love when like desperate good players show up to something like this like truly desperate for a win he hasn’t won since 2022 correct he won I think he wenton East Lake didn’t he yeah so he truly checks like a lot of the box is I’d love I think it’s a more than fair number at least it’s fair I thought it’d be shorter um and he’s a he’s a high-end player so much better I than you know I like him this week I think as well or just a true Gap in the oddsboard show uh a high-end player desperate for a win this could be something I would normally be on but the reason he’s 9 to1 is cuz I find him so unlikable so I’m not betting it it’s shorter than I thought it was going to be I thought it’d be 12 to1 like yes he’s an incredibly skilled player but this is also a putting competition I think he’s so much better than the second best player I mean is he I mean he’s had two he’s had two top fives in a row one at the US Open and then one at The Travelers so he’s playing good he’s starting to round back into form a little bit let’s not pretend like he’s having a good year like straa might be having like an equivalent year oh no I just mean like from a perception wise I think spe is overrated I don’t think IM carries much weight and straa went he had an eclipse here last year and has just been so hyper consistent I’m not even saying the straa odds are are unfair but you know when you look at this field I I’m sure so see I thought you thought it’d be higher I thought it’d be lower so who do you I guess you can even get it higher with an with an enhanced or something but I’m going to pass sunjay would be my favorite player of this group I’d argue sunjay in the last few weeks Pat is playing slightly just slightly worse if not identical to how well Patrick hentley is playing really well you either get good sunjay or bad sunjay his past few results are third miscut eighth ninth miscut fourth 12 miscut miscut so he’s either going to miss the cut or come inside the top five I don’t have an as you acknowledg it’s like the be loser group I truly don’t even have enough losers to make a card like there’s I don’t like when I looked at the odds board in an event like this I’d be like okay well he’s one of my guys so I guess we’ll ride him here he’s one of my guys I don’t have any of that I don’t have any of that you put Hustler on me I think I retired from him like three years ago we know you secret B him every week though not a chance like zero B Hustler cold shanking it tied for a lead on like s i i you know my eyes can still tell me something there are people that don’t have a dog that I believe there is a dog in there and then there are people who I once thought had a bit of a dog and then show me there is no dog and I that then were’re just you know no I’m not ride or die not a chance Bo Hustler I like the high Crown you’re I mean are you gonna go to Davis Thompson at 30 to1 he just had a good week I don’t mind him that number sucks yeah do do you more than the other 30 to1 players yeah do you do you prefer Riot 25 or do you prefer MAV at 25 or Davis Thompson at 30 Davis Thompson over Ry really slightly very close very close right there I don’t I like MAV I’m not even a MAV hater I’ve probably been accused of like over betting MAV at periods in the past I don’t get this current infatuation with math and winning the golf tournament okay so is there any like Cam Davis backto back I think Nick Dunlop 50 to1 seems pretty fair okay he can it seems like he does well at shittier Fields uh like birdie fests he can linger for a bit he fell off the pace this week he also feels like a total Boomer bust um maybe that just would be me being a sucker for a young Talent play uh that’s a bet I haven’t made um Eric Cole there’s any life in him maybe and I’ve never been this guy like we sort of laughed at these Cole people um but I could feel cocky maybe try to come in from the clouds in the putting contest just by the mere fact that he’s shown life and in the past he’s been able to carry form so that could be something um yeah know this is a real hard one we go farther back let me just check if this player is even playing well well there’s a few guys that I have that they’re just so deep down the odds boards but they all kind of make a little bit of sense to me and like do you really feel like I don’t know let’s take David skins for example who I think has gained 11 Strokes on approach combined in his past two events and has shown the ability to make some putts he’s just kind of a terrible driver of the ball but that doesn’t mean as much this week cuz this is a wedge Fest and you got to make your putts and knock them down he is what is what is he here he’s 110 to1 like Troy Merritt is 170 Ben Silverman is 150 to one like are these guys discernably different than Bo Hustler who’s 50 to one no so I can see I agree with that there’s a lot of that but like again I guess this is this feels so [ __ ] like you’ve never in your moment thought this guy could maybe win a PGA Golf Tournament but now you’re gonna bet him yes and but it’s funny to go back and look at the history of this event and like to see who wins it’s like pretty good players that we consider pretty good now like obviously spe won twice Bryson won Haron won Ryan Moore has a win obviously stco won a year ago JT Poston won like that level of players sometimes they get better than they are but it’s really but it’s Bryson yeah Bryson won he beat Patrick Rogers in 2018 yeah and then before that it was Jay it was the Stricker Zack Johnson like eight years right yeah so you’re right we actually haven’t and I’m sure the field strength’s gotten worse over the years but we haven’t seen the bottom Barrel other than the mik was it Michael Kim yeah the Michael the Michael Kim Insanity year when he won by a million strokes and pardon my ignorance was he like 150 to one or 80 to one that I he was like 750 to one cuz he was like Joe flacko levels of golf dead at that point yeah I think he had missed like 21 Cuts in a row coming in or something like that like it was as I said at the time I think it’s the most dominating performance I’ve ever seen in a golf tournament okay so truly truly from the clouds uh I don’t know is there a cam Davis here that someone has just been really good here always and they’re just playing like [ __ ] right now let me take a look for you fantasy national.com Mayo to get yourself access to all the stats and the best stat leader but were you were you were you out of town this week or were you did you stay in town I was in town and I’ll tell you it was pretty Barren um well when Italy lost it allowed you to go downtown right oh yes yes had to go into the city there was something at the Museum so I was kind of I got I love you know pizo all our Italian friends but when they win these games it can really clog ma major weekend arteries of traffic and and there’s already construction because it’s the summer so it was good that they had to stay indoors after they played on the weekend so excluding players who have won for telly won here at a big number as well losing Strokes on approach for the week and gaining like 12 Strokes putting but the guys that have played the best who haven’t won shank has come inside the top six three of the past four years and one of those was a wd your ey bet on him and he doesn’t come in with great form he’s 75 to1 but he’s played this course really well Ryan Moore won this back in the day but still plays it pretty well I bet on Sheamus power this week at 75 to1 and he is actually fourth in total Strokes gain he’s played it four times he’s never missed a cut doesn’t have like any Peak performances but a 13th an eighth a 16th like he’s been around and then you have Denny with back-to-back t6s the last two years Alex SMY your guy second here last year I swear I might have bet SMY at that like MAV McNeely number here a year ago because the field last year was was insane right there was no kley or spe or maybe just spe spe was I don’t think spe played this last year yeah so last year’s field was so bad that if you did want a piece of Alex SMY you had to take it at probably 25 or 30 to one um you might have just talked me into Sheamus power mainly because I don’t I don’t have enough to do anything here well he’s very his wedges are awesome we know that he can fill up if he gets know if he gets the putter rolling early he can keep that going he’s won on tour before in a field like this and it’s funny to go back and look at it and I kind of made this point last week with a lot of guys didn’t really come to fruition but he’s just been playing a lot of elevated events like he heaps getting into the Signature Events and into majors and that’s all he’s really playing he played in Canada and I think that’s the only one that he’s played let’s see yeah he played it is yeah he played the Canadian open his other ones are Travelers US Open or Wells Fargo it is interesting that there does become then this tier of player on tour who are good enough to like and they want to be in the elevated events like that’s very important uh yeah it’s the money and it’s the opportunity to be able to stare down a dragon and have your moment and whatever um but it weird it’s almost like it fulfills the schedule and in sometimes it has them in less of in these events and that note I don’t even I mean what Taylor Montgomery did on Saturday on that Golf Course has to be we’ve seen bad weekend rounds from like guys that was just out of this world um because that course will allow you to go off the map a bit so I don’t know what part of of Detroit he found but he he found it um it almost seems so debilitating that I wouldn’t even want to like consider trusting him this week he if he doesn’t make 150 to one last I know but if he if he makes all of his putts obviously he can be in contention that is something that he can do which is the consistency with him over the past 18 months has been so bad remember when he came top five every week for four months yeah yeah we’re we’re ways away from that guy I I just remember the day vividly but it was the day cuz obviously it was I don’t know what it was it was the AMX yeah it was the MX I guess because that might have was the weekend that the Chargers blew that game to the Jags and you know me we’re just watching and it’s like oh he was so good I yeah I never mind let’s just end that I want to go down I’m looking at the DraftKings pricing from last year at this tournament do you you know who the highest price player on DraftKings was in the 2023 version of the John Deere classic like JT Poston Denny of course he would have been office Memorial it was a summer of Denny oh yeah for sure Denny in form coming here I don’t know maybe there is some value on them I I’m not betting Denny Henley ludvig played cam young played then it was like hadwin Eric Cole Keith Mitchell shank Taylor Moore Chris Kirk like the these were the guys that we had coming in who did who did straa like beat last year well he double remember he double bogey the last hole because he was going to shoot like a 59 or something crazy like that and he doubled the last hole and still ended up winning he ran down shank did I had shank here last year and shank ended up coming T4 he just couldn’t get anything going on the weekend but let’s see who did he run down SMY and Todd ended up tied for second shank and then like Glover Denny hubard Poston Kevin Yu all finished inside the top 10 oh you know what what is hub’s odds yeah he’s like 66 yeah I guess that makes sense Paul yes Jake knap 100 yeah I’m betting Jake knap again okay that’s pretty good right just blind I I I’ve said on the shows I should do it and I never do it this one feels like maybe I got to I got no one I really have no one I I bet him last week and like he was kind of there for a bit until he went away he played the first two holes at Detroit Golf Club five over for the week like that’s impossible to do he bogied one every day okay what about your boy Chandy Phils Phillips is that my guy I feel like you’ve been betting him a couple times in these shitty events I don’t think I’ve ever put a scent on Chandler Phillips okay maybe sorry that could be uh Andy do the odds Checker videos with I know someone he’s play he listen he’s playing well he lost his irons over the weekend but you know he was filling it up on the greens he’s putting well go outside of the rocket mortgage he has hit his irons really well I get the case for him uh he’s just probably not I I’d rather bet I’m going to bet Neil Shipley at 100 to one he seems good you’re going okay you’re going to go back to l I think too right I didn’t bet lower last week so I doubt I’m going to bet him this week is the problem when you don’t listen to me um is that you don’t know who I bet no I see I don’t know sorry it’s but it’s a long weekend here folks I I Know Who You Bet last week I bet Keith Mitchell who sucks you bet Keith Mitchell you bet Fox you bet the Italian in Italy I I also bet I bet pav and Sy in Italy pavon pavon was first round leader and came fifth Sy ended up coming 10th and I had a top eight on him like in my top five got cut with pavon five ways it was just brutal man all he had to do was make one of these putts and there was a there was a grand stands on one of the hole that was legitimately one yard off the back of the green it was crazy y that was [ __ ] that was Psycho um but European tour fun Guido into into Marcel like those are fun uh I I enjoyed both of those you got Patrick Reed back there this week too running it back few of those guys that’s not a that’s not a bad field well this is the only way he can get himself into the open now he needs to come top two this week in Germany I think it’s in Germany apparently it’s a it’s a bombers course so you know me I’ll be looking at Thomas Peters it is the one in Germany right I believe BMW is usually in Germany yeah usually but I I don’t know if that’s actually true or not but I don’t know maybe I’m mixing it up with the Porsche one the BMW International open where the hell is this International open let’s see here is yeah it’s in it’s in Munich so yeah Max kefir bet him I don’t even know if he’s in the field but he’s German and he won an event for me in Switzerland before so why not yeah you get Fox is playing over there re Fox Peters Jordan Smith thirsty Lawrence Matty Schmid Guido non Olympian juice Luton that’s a weird story I say I don’t think we talked about that isn’t that nuts yeah I don’t understand that one bit they can qualify and last the last time around guys got medals who were way out in world rankings but the Dutch I guess the Dutch didn’t respect their world rankings to want to have to pay to send them I don’t really understand how that works yeah so if people don’t know Lon and I think vanriel and there was a female player as well who all qualified for the Olympics in Paris to be in under the Dutch flag and then the Dutch Olympic Committee said nah you’re not going you’re not good enough that’s nuts it’s a good Juiced course too by the way I’m really curious who Skyler bets on the PGA this week you have to wait till he’s doing his RV around North America right now so you have to wait till yeah that’s right so they’re not doing because I’m just you’re doing what he CU he’s just gonna bet guys like 400 to one who I’ve never heard of but in this event I got to be like okay I like GNA take a look at who they are you can bet Clanton that’s a guy he played well yeah he’s 60 to one that seems short for Luke Clinton who’s an amater he hit the ball I think the fourth longest in the field last week was crazy well it’ll be something at one of those long drive contests hustling around range to range 20 years old can’t wait till they roll that [ __ ] back okay so I have toy if he’s healthy I don’t know what did he withdraw with the S I don’t know why would you think this would be a good toasty course this isn’t like a the John Deere classic isn’t like a bombers track anyone can kind of play here I’m just curious he withdrew I didn’t know whether he’s hurt or he withdrew with the sads with the sads Shipley sh this guy I should not bet cuz I’ve got three events to lose money on next week and realistically am I going to hit a winner here no like I love the barbasol which is even worse than this but it’s different now is there a chance that Keith Mitchell saved all of his putts for this week if you’ve been betting Keith Mitchell how do you get off at 40 to1 against this set of jabro jabronies well to look at it and you know I I have been as someone who bet him last week I hadn’t been betting him but I was like oh he gained Strokes putting in Canada for the first time in like four months maybe he like found something with his putter turns out that was not the case losing Two Strokes per round in Detroit to miss the cut but his approach play was awesome like on a per round basis like it just continues he’s gained Strokes in every event this year except for Pebble Beach which was a three round event where one of the rounds wasn’t even included in a and like he was break even off the tea last week and he has not lost off the tea since the Sanderson Farms like his ball striking is so good you think that you would have to back door his way into a decent putting week one of these weeks Aaron Ry just did it that guy can’t putt he just gained like five Strokes putting you get that from Keith Mitchell this week he wins I love betting I love betting on putt loock but I don’t know there’s something about him he just consistently like I don’t get involved I don’t get involved but and it was a Bad Bet last week like it just even to think about it because it’s like um like zat Taurus withdrew with a back injury last week as well that sus we didn’t really talk about that’s not good news for a guy who missed all that time with a back injury had back surgery and now he’s pulling out with a back injury but what we said about Willie Z last week is just like yeah do you really want to bet him at a tournament where minus 20 is the winner no like do I want to bet Keith Mitchell at one of those events no I don’t like what was I thinking like when he won Honda he won at What minus n like that’s a good Keith Mitchell score you can miss some putts and still win at minus n that list you read out before it sort of showed how this has kind of been going to name like the guys with some sort of of name currency on the PGA tour so could you I want can you rank the guys from like Ry to Poston or like from 25 to like 35 in your opinion for me it’s probably Rye number one me like how do you even put Jason day into this like if day showed up here in one I wouldn’t be surprised because he’s Jason [ __ ] day but he’s been so terrible yeah it’d be like if Denny is ever going to win an event it’s this event it has to be cuz it’s against nobody’s and it’s a putting contest and hit a bunch of wedges driving doesn’t matter like we’ve seen Poston win here like I mentioned so yeah the problem with sorry cuz I I you asked me to rank guys do you want me to do that or do do you have something to say well I was gonna make a followup Denny comment but I’d rather just get the full list while you’re in on it Ry Denny hoston Davis Thompson Glover Burger Griffin h hubard shank senson I guess I mean I would have I bet power so power would actually be much higher up on that list like Lee Hodes I think is in this territory as well Davis Riley should be someone to be considered Brennan Todd putam is like this is a perfect putam course okay so you just I assume you just missed MAV because I no I I did not include MAV he reeks by the way okay I like that so your point of name dropping putam the problem like yeah of course this is the obvious place where if Denny’s going to win he’s going to win but it is the skill set where I would rather bet the guy at 80 whose strength is the same thing or sit like it’s I don’t you know that skill set I don’t care I don’t want to bet the favorite of that skill set at the bombing gouge like sure I get why I would pay the piper for Bryson or something or those guys but at this it’s like I don’t know I’d rather bet the poor man’s version of Denny at this course than the favorite of that version there’s a couple guys last week who gained a bunch of Strokes uh like ball striking approach wise and just couldn’t putt Chan Kim being at the very top of that list who’s 175 to one like he’s Mr wedge but he loses Two Strokes around on the greens and it’s not getting any better anytime soon it looks like but he’s way down that list KH Lee is another one TPC Lee at TPC Deer Run is someone to potentially consider and then David skins was the other one who kind of popped up for me and again he’s above 100 to one that I might just take like seven of those guys and be like all right perfect sunjay and those seven what do you feel about Sam Stevens pricing because I open him up and if he could just hit his approaches seems like he’s does everything you need here sort of but he doesn’t hit his approaches and like he had a spike putting week last last week and came 10th like if there’s a like like he is someone that is going to dominate with his driver when he dominates and this isn’t really a course where you can dominate with your driver it doesn’t feel like a good fit like Mexico or Craig Ranch seems to be a better spot at least in my mind for Sam Stevens I would rather I mean it and I am lazy sometimes I admit it or far too often I swear to God I feel like I’d rather bet sunj and one of those other guys and literally have two men than trying to figure out like Eric Cole Mark hubard I don’t [ __ ] know man like I’m not smart enough I wouldn’t even know how to pick four or five of them the powers one I like the most of everything you brought up to me of guys with a number that one one I like all right well let’s get to the Quick Picks then because I actually have bet on a few people it sounds like you’re all over the map I’m going to bet sunj at 20 so we go sunj power at 75 Shipley at 100 to one with five places nap 100 to one with five places and I bet Joel Damon at 110 to one with five places he has a runner up here coming off a really nice week in Detroit I think he’s pretty good at the Canadian open as well just needs to start making a few more of his putts but isn’t he like the the op guy that we just talked about like when I did those rankings we didn’t quite get down the odds board to him but like oh yeah of course Joel Damon won the John Deere classic that you can already [ __ ] see it his mantle with his like stupid hat from the Caribbean win or whatever when they put him in a waiter shirt he de did he win that I thought he lost there’s one he’s in the waiter shirt he won in the waiter shirt that’s right I think he won Pana yeah I I know which one the waiter shirt is but where the winner they make you like serve drinks or something I don’t know what you’re doing that night in that shirt um yeah this is this is feels like an ideal sucker for something like that look at one yeah I I’m ready I’ll bet sham is power and I do like sun JM I couldn’t get a hold of cus to get his one andone so I’ll have that later in the week in the newsletter when I do the show with Tambo I will release that who do you want to take for the one and done just seeing of how bad this hitsun has been playing oh R yeah like I’m trying to find a guy like someone who I like have some affinity for oh he’s actually not playing so bad I just got to see who I’ve used I will take I’ll take sunj okay good pick I hat you beat me last week uh did it matters whatever did pendrith make the cut if he did you beat me think he did but whatever I’m not taking Sun Jay from you okay taking Klay now you already took I’ll take Davis Thompson there’s no way I’ve Ed that guy you see you say that when he check the list you have not used Davis Thompson and can I ask a question not that it matters had I used minwoo previously no wasn’t we weren’t sure about that and I’m like okay no I hadn’t used pendra but that’s that’s my fault I got to have my own list right I can’t put that on you that’s not your job to make my pick um okay that’s fine you seem there’s not much left right you seem kind of salty about it no no no not at all not at all me and you we’re lapping Tim we’re we’re in a battle here yeah I I’m a million bucks behind you so I need to need to pick up some but we got Scottish open next week the Open Championship and then we got 3M wind then we have both of the playoff events which are big money so plenty of time to to catch up the million it’s it’s you know sneaky getting to the finish line here which also means sneaky getting to football I’ve noticed you’ve been doing those division previews yeah I got rankings coming out running back rankings with meanie in studio coming out tomorrow yeah it’s July so we’re kind of there you know I’ve got buddies that say you can’t ask me about fantasy until like the middle of July leave me alone Late July like do not bug me even if we’re on the golf course don’t ask me we’ve already done our Lottery though I got the second pick so does that mean I’m taking lamb I think so we’ll see I love JJ though and I’m a sucker for Sam darnold so when people are writing these articles so you’re gonna draft Sam darnold no I you know I’m a longtime Sam darnold truther and I thought he couldn’t hurt me anymore but now you know they put him with Kevin oconnell and these receivers and you read these things it’s like oh no he’s gonna hurt me again he’s gonna hurt me again whether that means I like take JJ over lamb or or whatever or I will be betting the Sam darnold LED Vikings week one I don’t even know who they’re playing I can’t wait you don’t think that JJ is going to be their quarterback oh I meant I meant if I draft je Jefferson too who would you draft Jefferson or lamb Jefferson yeah okay but I’m a Jefferson guy you really do think but you really think that darnold’s going to be the quarterback not JJ McCarthy week one yeah right now yeah but obviously takes give me two and a half good training camp blurbs and I’m like okay all in JJ McCarthy let’s go um is that crazy why is it a I I’m kind of been out of the I got such stability at head coach that I’ve I’ve just sort of you know I feel at ease right now has there been reports that JJ’s like already got the job no but did you you get your quarterback in the first round it’d be like if B Nicks wasn’t the Broncos starting quarterback like that’s strange okay you’re right I guess the difference being let me just make the one difference is I feel like bck was a five or six year college starter and JJ McCarthy’s six is uh like 19 or 20 years old that would be the one thing but I agreee you draft a guy that high you got to play him pretty quick I just thought maybe AJ JJ’s age they might just let Sam darnold hurt me and Vikings fans JJ McCarthy is 21 years old he’s not 19 okay 21 still a pop sure I mean just like I mean how could he not be good as Sam darnold who’s been perpetually 14 years old for 13 years he’s so young though look how great he is no I don’t I no I was just I don’t know I got wrong I was wrong and I thought he was done hurting me but I tell you if Brock py suffered a big injury last year I’d have been so in on him being able to do the job which he probably wouldn’t have which he probably wouldn’t have I do like him though I mean the best bet for week one of NFL if Sam darnold starts is Sam darnold over 05 interceptions sure you’d probably play you’d probably play an ALT line on that yeah up three and a half over then we’ll see JJ but yeah that was all to say I I’ve enjoyed seeing your your division roll outs I don’t is there like um is it like a is it like every certain day is there like a schedule for how those are rolling out or just whatever you feel yeah uh well I mean we we’ll see what we’ll do with Best Bets because we have Scottish next week and then we have open so we’ll do Best Bets for those that’s probably the end of Best Bets for golf for the year so that right now it’s every Thursday but this week it’s going to be Tuesday and Thursday and then it’ll be Tuesday and Thursday for the rest of the summer until football starts until it’s every day and then there’s no more golf good happy July happy Canada day I I’m I’m trying to cook up I’m filming it on Wednesday this week I can’t say exactly what it is but me and blickle are doing something for the Open Championship we have to see if it works first okay that’s like works like it just technically or technically works like we have to no the vibe will most definitely be there but we have to see if logistically it can actually work oh I could I I know nothing about this I could take a guess but I’ll make it off there yeah you can most definitely do that it’ll be for the research show I did want to tell you here are my top 15 short-term modeling for the John Deere classic just no price included just who are the best players in this field uh based on the numbers that I’ve been looking at do you want to take a venture a guess who’s number one on the on your John Deere model yeah Aaron Ry Aaron Ry is the correct answer over the past 12 rounds of who is the best player in this field yeah that doesn’t surprise me one bit Aaron Ry sep is probably right there sep is number eight on this list he is the best of the Ry well Davis Thompson’s number two Chan Kim’s number three Kevin Yu is number four Joel Damon is number five Kelly craft Keith Mitchell Seb straa David skins and Clanton is number 10 and kley didn’t model that high there kley is 16 so after that it’s Dunlap Meritt Silverman Hune Chandler Phillips Klay Ben Griffin kazy bridg man and Neil Shipley that’s very shortterm that’s past 12 rounds good luck someone’s going to hit a nice number this week or or kl’s just gonna win you know who’s gonna win his [ __ ] spe and No One’s Gonna bet him if you had to re like spe if you had to have me rank sep him and spe spe would be my third I actually think I like spe the best of that Bunch but you’re betting him yeah I mean oh you said I I thought you said straa spe and I didn’t hear you say sunj yeah no of those like guys that what are like 18 to 2020 that three pack I would rank it MPP spe M seep I mean I can see that but it just spe has Good Vibes at the scores and he needs Good Vibes right now let’s also not forget Jordan speed has gained 9.8 5.2 and 4.6 Strokes T to Green in three of his past five events and the last time that he played like a goober event was colonial and he just couldn’t make a putt that week in some ways depending on your thoughts on spe he would be the ideal bet for based on my theory of like desperate players good high-end players desperate for a win he’s doubl the favorites number um but I don’t know I honestly don’t know how good he is and I don’t I I’ve had my run at being a speed Basher I came out the other side I like Hamlin I was victorious in that um I would like to see him do well I have no idea how good he is I mean that relative to the games other like best like skill set wise who would you say is true contemporary is like if you had to make a true fair minus 110 minus 110 I’m not even talking about in this field I’m talking about anyone in golf like where I was gonna say Herman but that’s probably unfair to Herman so if you said Connors is that who’s that unfair to probably Connors like speed head just has that weird upside that you’re just always waiting for in any given moment but he’s just so wildly inconsistent I would say that his probably best contemporary on like honestly it’s like step Jagger okay sure and that’s crazy and two to to what you’re saying is he’s not a guy as much as I talk [ __ ] about that I look to pick on head-to-head because he does have that ability to do that thing and those aren’t guys I like to pick on I like to pick on guys we like you know I don’t know their base their ceiling isn’t as high really but yeah if Stephen Jagger is your like current Talent comp to spe I don’t know spe yeah like if you saw if you saw saw that on the sports book you you logged on you said hey there’s minus 110 Jordan spe minus 110 Steven Jagger you wouldn’t be like oh my God spe’s going to kill this guy like you would just probably be a no bet yeah and I wouldn’t be rushing to bet yeah be like okay that seems you’re right I guess I’d be like I guess that seems fair they’re smarter than me they posted it um and let’s say put it this way when the best players play an elevated event where is Jagger on the odds like a 100 20 to1 MH 100 to one and you’ll see it this week wait wait until the head-to-heads come out obviously they’re not out as of yet but it’s not like he’s going to be minus 110 against Seb straa he’ll be paired up with like Jason day who’s double his odds as like a you are probably right and if it wasn’t IM versus spe you’re probably paying like 70 cents maybe that’s too high yeah yeah you’re right if you do yeah that is probably too high but yes you’re right even if im and speed Clos at the same line M would be like at least a minus 140 favorite I think in a head tohe head yeah and it’s funny that we kind of mentioned I mentioned Sam Stevens a little bit earlier the one thing that speed has been doing really well this year he’s driving the ball amazingly and he’s probably and he’s probably dealing with a wrist injury that’s probably the majority of this he’ll probably get surgery during the offseason and he’ll probably skip the President’s Cup and take himself out of that running that’ be my guess right now but I mean if he can continue this drive and just get back to like kind of how he used to play with his irons and his putting like he’ll be fine it’s just not happening this year yeah clearly hurt and I guess I should have said that earlier and he’s battling he’s playing through something and he’s trying to find his form I guess before he goes He heads over um but he’s live He’s live to win the open I don’t know if trun is the right spot for him but I mean I feel like he’s always going to be live in open championships even I won’t fight you that hard or at all on that is Cam Davis on the did like do his presence cup radar go off here or are we you just glad handing a guy who’s on won on a comfort course versus [ __ ] field yeah say he basically won a corn faery event um let’s see here did he he moved to ninth in the standings like he’s still behind Cory Connor and Nick Taylor although minwoo just took the last guaranteed spot from Nick Taylor I don’t know if Mino taking a g like I don’t think it’ll matter no but like he like the top six from the international side are locked into the team like they can’t be replaced and now Mino is there and I like that it’s only six because they truly just to give them the best chance to win they need it open-ended to be able to pick the best possible team they can at the time of the event correct so I mean with Cam Davis with a win right now and having been on the team last time maybe he is on like if it comes down to hadwin versus Davis who are ninth and 10th in the standings now both those guys probably make the team but they’ probably take Cam Davis over hadwin I’m hoping they take the team that gives them the best chance to compete as opposed to just glad handing a Canadian that would be my absolute preference even as people especially as someone who’s going who will be there will be there I want them to take the best team they possibly can well knowing what I know about Royal Montreal weirdly there are a couple guys on the international Squad that the course really does suit like it’s a good hadwin course it’s a good Baden H course it’s a good sewo course like it’s not a bombers track it is a precision and accuracy Tom K Tom Kim is another one yeah so like a lot of the skill sets for the Internationals I mean they would be listen I don’t think they’re going to win but it does give them a better chance than [ __ ] Quail Hollow last time okay yeah I see what you’re saying it’s almost like um okay good we got we can take their some of their big weapons well no it’s impossible but yeah cool do you do you know who the six are right now for the American side it’s probably would be crazy it’s sheffler morawa shley yeah that’s the top three theala yeah theala is sixth yeah um geez now I want to here’s how bad the American side has been it’s Clark and Klay are fifth or fourth and fifth after that it is sh Tony fena is seventh how is that possible yeah I mean I don’t even know cuz it this all goes back to the conversation we’ve had and I know it involves a lot of international players but the PGA Tour yes it’s always been littered with great International worldwide flavor you know most of the time week in week out leaderboards are littered with American flags um and while the world isn’t playing its best golf outside of Scotty sheffler nor are any of the good American players like let on the Great American players there’s obviously the big boys at the top but yeah guys are not playing well um hom har like that whole other tier of of American golfer is just totally regressed this year yeah 789 fena H Heron then OE is number 10 I really hope OE makes a team yeah I said last week wouldn’t it be fun if they wanted to you know AI theala is sort of playing his way on but really do a bit of um a guard change some fresh blood it’d be so much more fun on the property I think now I say that selfishly I’m sure people who don’t actually care about golf the day after the event just want to see Justin Thomas and Jordan spe there I want to see Bach and thala like well thala thala is gonna be there regardless he’ll be a captain’s picker earn his way on the team so I’m wondering if they go youth movement and I mean baa probably does he’s playing his way onto the team right now like he’ll be around there so they probably take him as the next young guy up but do they glad hand like hey Russell Henley you can be on the team maybe it’s a movement with Keegan Bradley is that what’s gonna happen or hogi or something Hog’s 15th in the standings if he actually gets one of these wins like the Windom or something he might play his way on of this team yeah and and obviously like as long as there’s no live I guess that’s just it was just the Brooks spot right last time yeah Brooks was the only one yeah Brooks was the only one because he played his way on like technically Bryson would have enough points to be on the team but they said no live at all for the President’s Cup but that but people ask why it’s because the PGA Tour runs the President’s Cup whereas it’s the PGA of America that runs the Ryder Cup and those are two separate entities that’s why Liv was allowed to play last time yeah um again I don’t know if we’re I always thought it would be a great if they’re close if they’re as close to some sort of piece as sometimes they say I always feel that’s like a loow hanging fruit gesture and you know NBC who grossly overpays for this bate you know Ridder cup light event desperately would want Bryson in a match play yeah versus a decky Tom or even if it was cson anyone Tom anyone Bryson in a match play even versus some Canadian that he can mop who cares that would be great TV and the way like you know what it will be like on the grounds like if it was any Canadian like the vibe in a match of Bryson vers any Canadian it’d be great it’d be great it would come off it would show on TV not that it would need our help I don’t mean us being there I mean like Canadian fans cheering for their guy oh yeah I remember watching it in what was it 2007 2008 when Weir played Woods in the singles and Weir beat him like people were fired up yeah it was great didn’t even matter literally we lost the event clearly as the Internationals but if you would have taken the pulse of like Canadian media that night it was like we won the President’s Cup because we are beat tiger in the singles yes all right it’s like that was totally secondary to oh by the way here’s the winning team getting their trophy like okay we beat tiger in singles okay that will do it on the pat Mayo experience thank you all for tuning in smash a like while you’re here use code Mayo at Underdog fantasy and get yourself a deposit bonus of up to 250 bucks football on Tuesday Tambo in studio for John Deere classic final bets and DraftKings picks on Wednesday and football again on Thursday with Jake Celia another divisional preview to get you all caught up and ready for football season cuz that is coming soon all right I’m Pat Mayo thanks for watching I’ll see you next time experience experience

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  2. Did Geoff just say that Fleetwood should be like +700 to win a golf tournament and that Cantwin might be fucking animals at night in like a two minute span? This is his case for most insane 2024.

  3. Ponzi scheme Aaron Rai let me down again done betting this guy can't do shit on Sundays too much pressure

  4. I live in IL and have played TPC Deere Run several times. The pros make the course look easy but it’s tough if you do not drive the ball well. My pick is Davis Thompson to get his first PGA win this week. Great show!

  5. D Mccarthy 30/1 E Cole 60/1 P Rodgers 66/1 D Wu 110/1

    R Fox 22/1 T Pieters 33/1 S CROCKER 60/1 G Green 90/1
    Bets for European open

  6. had aaron rai, min woo, and cam young at rocket. everyone choked lol joke of a tourney was handed to davis

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