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The National Football Show with Dan Sileo | Wednesday June 19th, 2024



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I told you so hey I hate doing that to open my show you know I I I’m like I I I am just like right now in my opinion I am um I’m Nostradamus I’m not s hey Xander I’m getting feedback here for some reason I’m getting feedback here on the program here so let’s see if we can uh fix that here a little bit because I’m hearing it here with the big S show here what do you mean what what what do you mean late okay are you are you hey are you you guys hearing me can you guys hear it everything okay because we’re getting a little feedback now for some reason okay no we’re still getting it s d yeah no feedback on my end I’m getting it on my end over here for some reason here okay let’s just do this we’re ready to rock and roll and you know how we’re ready to rock and roll stills all right so I hate to do this to you as the Eagles World Turns this is incredible and first I find a video that Vic vanio says last year hoe roseman’s defense sucked would you like me to play it for you I posted it I posted this bad puppy um let me see here that Vic was at a golf tournament somebody sent me this uh audio here about Vic vanio I grew up eag many many years ago wait wait gotta make sure we’re okay with this yeah I’m good on the feedback now Xander we’re good it was on me started in philadel hold hold on here here’s Vic fangio taking his [ __ ] on hoe uh my Pro coaching career started in Philadelphia 40 years ago so hopefully I’ll have a little run here and finish it in Philly too yeah they weren’t very good last year and um they weren’t very good last year some new players you mean Ho’s defense wasn’t very good last year damn what makes you think you’re going to be pretty good this year new players new coaches he just stated facts I was stating facts since new or no since New England you didn’t believe me I said your defense is not that good you didn’t believe me I told you from day one that thing wasn’t going to be good we all know this Jack ass look at this gossip queen today oh no none of this is on me that was the voice of Vic vanio telling you that how’s team wasn’t very good last year okay that’s this year he said it hopefully we’re GNA be better we’ll see what happens that was put on the air in Philly this morning they were addressing pretty much the same Personnel pretty much the same Personnel we haven’t even gotten to Howard esin yet w we got this thing going today you guys not might not want to hit the like button today because what I’m going to tell you is is everything that I’ve been telling you is totally coming true you haven’t addressed anything of your problems in your locker room at all and now the organization is feeling the same thing I’ve been listening to Jacob Sports the last three years my fellow Eagle fans and I love this everything about them they tell us the absolute truth that a lot of the eagle fans don’t want to hear respect Miguel thank you that’s exactly true and boy are they going to fight you today Miguel you’re gonna see a thousand ljs today you’re gonna see a thousand ljs you’re going to see all kinds of people mad at me for talking about what others are saying about your team that’s what they’re going to say okay they’re going to be mad at me here so let’s dive in I think it was more of a euphemism Xander and John McMullen this morning were taking it as verbatim they’re going to start Carson wiing Jaylen Herz they’re going to start preparing to move on from him and John says well Wentz demanded a trade well how he got in front of that did he not by drafting Jaylen Herz because the organization had already had started to begin to see some cracks in the armor Carson Wentz going into the 2020 season wasn’t demanding to be traded they had drafted went or hers to begin the process would they have run it back not when went saw the writing on the wall so they were beginning as an organization to have questions about Carson WS I think it started in the Seattle playoff game we’re not doing this again your mouthpie sideline reporter for your team yesterday reported that if Jaylen Herz doesn’t have a great 2024 season the team will begin the process of moving on from him I didn’t say that what is your problem what is your problem I mean do you think that guy just randomly came up with why does Howard esin suck for being told something nobody is going to risk their job dude that’s a fireable offense when you’re the sideline reporter for the Philadelphia Eagles if you start throwing out misinformation that was yesterday afternoon this is nothing to do with last year this has everything to do with this year absolutely Silo talks about other people said because he doesn’t have enough of a brain this has nothing to do with me so if your indictment is on me LJ you shouldn’t be here then go follow someone else I’ve been doing this for 40 years almost I know what I’m doing I’ve worked as a sideline reporter with professional football teams I’ve worked as a pre and postgame host for NFL teams and college football teams at baseball teams too and hockey teams you don’t have the absolute autonomy to start barking [ __ ] out like that without someone coming to you and telling you LJ go away then just go away go away if you don’t like it you not this is not the military draft you’re not implored or employed to be here never because you know why this is more about me to him than actually telling you the truth about your team and this is what people in Philly run from not all of you not all of you seriously some of you don’t are you don’t don’t have to be here we like you here but this has nothing to do with me this has nothing to do with me I comment and I’m an observationist that’s what I am I’m an observationist I observe what others say and I comment on it just like every pant in the news media does and everybody in the sports media does you comment on what Nick Nur says you comment on what John torella says you comment on what everyone says including people that covered the team you talk [ __ ] what [ __ ] did I talk about that the sideline reporter said that hurs doesn’t have here let’s do the topic things have to be getting a little tense in the eagle front office to allow the mouthpiece Howard esin to drop out that Herz has to have a 2024 season or they’ll begin the Carson wcing of Herz he said that where do you think he got that he made it up I speculate a lot sideline reporters the people who work for the Eagles that’s the closest thing that you’ll get to somebody telling him hey this guy better have a great year hey and this stuff with that cap hits is so stupid you want to hear something now granted it’s a lot it’s it’s it’s it’s a bit more money but but do you understand this year that the Denver Broncos are paying $43 million $43 million to Russell Wilson and the Steelers are paying 1.2 of his salary this year do you know that granted they they’re I’ll tell you how according to the NFL PA you can get out of this if that’s the Avenue you want to go down but you tell me this why in the world would the employee of the Philadelphia Eagles come out and say that Herz has to have a better season or they’ll begin the process of car Carson wiing Herz that’s a pretty bold statement for a guy even go on WIP barking at what do you me I’m going to ask Merl ree that question at 5:30 today why would one of your broadcast Partners maybe the toughest question I ever asked Merill Merill what’s your take on him saying that about Herz you’re a [ __ ] if you are expecting this team to Coast to a 13- win season with a new OC and DC maybe in 25 Forest Hill I agree with you Carson Wentz got Carson Wentz because he tore he fing KNE and was never the same not talking about that I’m talking about it 2020 when they began the process after the season on exiting away from him and that’s when he said he wanted a trade prior to that year how he drafted a quarterback 56th overall and Jaylen Herz and that started the whole process actually Seattle the playoff game and the hit by Clowny started the whole beginning of the end when he didn’t go back into the game and that’s The Following season when they ended up drafting Herz in the second round he drafted a safety belt SS do you believe in Herz this season I don’t believe in the Eagles this season it’s not jayen I don’t believe the way they’re coaching them I told you that if you allow the kid to be the kid that we saw in 202 22 then yeah I think he can do some marvelous things he’s a very undefensible guy but if you start trying to make him into Joe burrow he’ll never be that guy he’s that remotely close to that guy get this Howard esin hired by the Philadelphia Eagles and is the sideline reporter who hears things on the sidelines do you actually think they would allow him to be on the sidelines in 2024 if he was going on the air in the city of Philadelphia lying about the eagles and their positioned with Herz right now would you ever want that if you were the team wouldn’t you demand him fired he’s on the side think about this hey guys by the way the people that are making this about me right now don’t want want to hear what I’m saying so I want you to hear it crystal clear and I want you to ask yourself a simple question whether you don’t like me or not okay whether you don’t like me or not the bottom line if you had a guy employed and he was on the sidelines hearing private conversations with players and coaches because he has got accessibility with the proximity of how he is as close to the players in hearing conversations it’s got nothing to do with me Jason this is [ __ ] nothing to do with me would you want an employee going on the air in Philadelphia on June 18th yesterday and saying that the Eagles in the front office if this guy doesn’t play well will begin the process of removing him would you I would fire that guy today if that wasn’t true if I would dude you don’t understand hey get this Xander Rous gets so much [ __ ] for the stupid little tiny [ __ ] that we say here you don’t think that’s a big deal I heard Xander and John McMullen today and they never even plugged in this Jesus Christ Xander they call you un stupid [ __ ] about me you don’t think they call WIP and demand a retraction they they demand retractions from their coaches and players every [ __ ] week what makes you say true about our team just like you don’t think it’s hurts the good leader what do you think everyone has played with would say I’m I’m not sure again fat Mack you got to put it a little better than that you tell me thank you though fat Mack you tell me I would demand a retract hey so wait a minute you don’t REM you don’t demand a retraction from esin but you demand a retraction or to quantify your comments after the Jets game when it comes when it when it comes to hurts boy oh boy you’re blind as a bat I have been right and I’m even more get this it’s becoming sad that I’m right okay by the way to LJ’s point I don’t have to retract [ __ ] I’m a talk show host I’m not a journalist [ __ ] bag I’m not the sideline reporter and I’m not employed by The Eagles I’m employed by Jacob not the Eagles I owe them nothing I owe them nothing nothing I owe my audience a show every day for four [ __ ] hours okay I owe them nothing I don’t have to be politically correct which I’ve never been I don’t have to sit there and tow the company line he does if Howard esin doesn’t come out with a retraction far as I’m concerned it’s true Bruce you know what Bruce SS is too real for these Gentiles can’t let can’t let blinded folks get you worked up they do it as trolls no no listen they’re look hey Sean LJ’s content he’s a bridge he’s like a stone in my shoe it’s a box of rocks it’s a guy that I can just absolutely show you what always remember something Sean he thinks serani is better than Reed and Doug that’s all you need to know about him and he comes after me all you need to know that’s it that he’d rather have serani as your head coach than Andy Reid and Doug that’s it listen Eagles could have a hell of a season this year and will find a way to talk about the Eagles you’re damn right because you’re not going to have a hell of a season you’re never going to have a hell of a season you were an 11- win football team last year and you had a shitty season why that was the ugliest 11 wins I have ever seen in my entire life and they were miserable doing it they were miserable and they couldn’t fight adversity seals you’re speaking facts and we love you but calm down don’t need your blood pressure to rise over these Str we’ll always support you in Xander thank you Jameson Jameson I get fired up over a lot of things brother don’t worry about it I’m Italian it’s all you need to know guy we’re good brother honestly man it’s all good this is going to be a great year Stills isn’t very possible that ES is reporting the exact Story the owner and GM want to Flo to the public yes the story didn’t come from the sidelines but the boardroom Bob thank put Bob up there put Bob Bob that’s it bob yes Bob does it come off to you that you think that that Philadelphia organization hey Xander let me I can’t wait to get Xander’s on at 4:30 Mark Holmes I don’t think we’re getting Philly 500 today at 330 he’s got an obligation 5:30 is going to be Merl ree but I can’t wait to get Xander ons isn’t very possible that esin is reporting exactly the story that the owner and JM want to float out to the public the story didn’t come from the sideline but the boardroom let me ask you something here Xander why would they call and this is for him at 4:30 why would they call you about me calling the general manager a glorified CPA and said that [ __ ] make those comments up that I was racist or to to threaten John McMullen and his feet keod because I was on Jacob Sports in the network you know they threaten johon over me and you’re trying to tell me you think it’s cool that a sideline reporter starts barking on the airwaves of the flagship station I was fired because of the flagship station telling them you either go or I go you either go or I go do you understand that I think we’re getting Philly 500 awesome awesome what do you hey that organization called Craig Carton and fox and FS1 because of the [ __ ] he was saying but you’re just going to let Howard esin spread false rumors ask yourself that and guess what the media do in Philly you know what the media will do in Philly they’ll blow it off like a nothingburger that’s June 17th no biggie an employee of the Philadelphia Eagles who are an organization is absolutely petrified if anybody says anything negative about is allowing an employee to go out on the airwaves on a 50,000 watt station one of of the most powerful sports stations in America saying that if Herz doesn’t play well in 2024 they’re going to be gting to Carson wiing of him really well I’ve worked for organizations like that and it doesn’t work like that do you know how many times when I worked for the Raiders in the pre and post game and I did an afternoon show in the Bay Area do you know how many times I’d get calls from the radi hey let’s not go down that route let’s not talk about Jeff George like that hey let’s not talk about Joe bugle like that a little bit more positive in the comments about bugle he really likes him and and you’re like okay because you know what you got to follow along and you got to play along that’s what the deal is doesn’t work like that hey John works for Jacob you don’t work for the Eagles Howard works for the Eagles it’s a different mentality they got more control of Howard Forest goes Howard never said who told him you don’t get it you don’t go on making [ __ ] up you don’t go on make hey okay so that would be like Marl ree at 5:30 today going like this there’s a good chance that um if Nick serani doesn’t get out to a 4-0 start they could fire him in September and you think the Eagles would be okay with that you guys don’t see it I cannot believe how blind some of you are this is exactly the same stuff that went on at the back end of the season Philly hater please like And subscribe fat ma Philly thank you my friend Prince dude this is that front office I could just feel the hidden truth readying to crack Earth’s surface I’m waiting years for this long live King Sills Mr Perez goes 34 minutes of horseshit that an employee of the Eagles came out and said Herz better have a 2024 season or they’ll start the process of moving on from him and an employee of them said it not me okay you you need to call WIP and the Eagles then and ask him is there a retract hey how many people think there’s a retraction coming hey if there’s a retraction I’ll take it back I have no Pro hey Bob if if they have a retraction I’ll go hey man okay that was just an opinion that got a little away from Howard Howard’s one of the best Sports Talk guys or used to be hey SS the esim report is no different than Herz commenting 95% change to the offense both stories give coverage they both slant in their favor if season turns to [ __ ] so you’re saying this that jaylen’s making excuses but where did H hey that’s jaylen’s opinion when you’re a sideline reporter you’re not supposed to have an opinion and I’ll say this one more time to you my friend do you if you’re the Philadelphia Eagles do you TR hold on I’m awake are you would you trust Howard esin on a sideline with confidential comments being made by players and coaches if he’s out there saying that this is a Do or Die year for Herz just a common question would you would you trust them knowing that organization the way they are would you trust them would you trust them how about the conversations that AJ Brown may have with Herz on the sidelines and if you’re the Eagles after hearing a guy say unless he was told you’re not getting it it’s not so much what he’s saying is that he’s saying it publicly and not in opinion form you see if John Richie said that I’d be like this or even John McMullen said that I’d be like well as a reporter has to be a little bit of opinion there John Richie does a morning show did morning radio for 30 years I get it but when you’re an employee of a pro football team like I’ve been there’s stricter parameters and guard rails you’re just not understanding how broadcasting works I’m trying to help you I’m trying to help you and tell you why I have stepped on my dick all these years I’m coming from a place of experience I got can or replaced because I was going to Boston in San Diego do you know I was the pre and postgame show host for the San Diego Padres the San Francisco Giants in the Florida Marlins I was the pre and postgame host for those three major league baseball teams okay when I would go on the a and start saying [ __ ] like the Padres are known for two things Tony Gwyn and the hamburger guy do you know the [ __ ] I got I was the Padre’s guy for three years many people don’t realize that I was the Giants postgame show host for three years at KBR 68 you don’t have that economy I was the pre and postgame show host for the Raiders for three years you don’t have that type of latitude I’ll talk about Willie in a minute of course I met Willie Mays Willie Mays was one of the most accessible people you can possibly be around Howard esin is going to be Trump’s White House Press Secretary you tell me so you think there’s nothing to it that a sideline reporter and a employee of the Eagles is going out on a 50,000 watt powerful WIP and that’s a nothing Burger Xander said it the other day on June 17th and that Hertz comment with all this stuff is not adding up her saying the offense is 95% new what’s his name coming out saying wait it’s not it’s about 20% new her saying I don’t know what the role is of the head coach now you’re having a guy come out saying going to start the process of looking for a new quarterback after this year if he doesn’t have a good year all of this noise does not resembled the Meltdown of last year you never addressed it because of the most important thing that you did do you didn’t change the culture in your locker room and the loss of Kelce is rearing its head even more you have no leadership on that theme none and you it it’s an implosion I I already know it like I told you in the New England that defense is not good got Vic vanio telling you now they weren’t very good last year I told you after the New England game they weren’t going to be a great team I thought they’d get better by week eight I did but it didn’t because they made the move by week nine or 10 to fire ji get this an employee LJ’s calling Howard esin gossip when he works for the team you made the coach the players all last year do retractions on some of the comments that they made in the locker room and after games but you’re not going to have a guy come out and say hey they’re going to start the Carson Wentz process you you you can’t can’t be a gossip guy and a sideline reporter you don’t they’re not the same it’s a different job description John covers the team Howard works for the team which mean he’s told things they put him on the air so he can be the Philadelphia Eagles mouthpiece don’t you get it that’s a megaphone for the Eagles WIP now Angelo’s telling you that every [ __ ] time he comes on that is a megaphone now for the eagles they have zero credibility you do not know how broadcasting works I’ve worked at every single angle of this profession talk show host co-host pre impost game sideline reporter baseball hockey NFL there’s nothing I haven’t done nothing I’ve worked for networks I worked at Fox Sports I was the first hire box sports radio me I’m trying to explain to you this is something here The the media is looking for a good story the media is looking for a good story but the employee usually doesn’t give the story when I set up a story about something and people start responding to it that’s one thing but when an employee of the team hired by the flagship station to be the mouthpiece and megaphone says it it’s a different animal like I said John McMullen and people like John McMullen are not employees of the Eagles it’s why NBC Philadelphia sports is told not to put anybody on our show you know why they’ve got an agreement with the Eagles so Bob Langan calls them and tells them don’t put anybody on cilio show or the network because of cilio he says that Xander knows it Joe Krauss knows it hey to them kudos to them because they don’t waver most companies waver they don’t waver because we’re only talking ball here nothing personal a little personal with Howe because he’s a gator but probably a little personal with me too because I’m a hurricane I don’t give a [ __ ] dude if anybody on the team likes me I don’t care if any other the Buccaneers like me it didn’t matter but they listen or they wouldn’t be calling my bosses every day even Angelo knows that you know Angelo kind of makes me a little crazy that he even knows it now you know he he he text me the other day too after he came on and you know what he said and you got them riled up dog they watch your show every day and boy you don’t know the people that call me and go and watch your show that work at IP and over at The Fanatic you are saying things that they not allowed to kudos to you as long as your bosses keep going you’re the only guy in the building chesin is delivering the exact message that Howie and Jeff most mostly Jeff mostly Jeff wanted delivered this way a shot across the bow Herz now know oh hers Hur can I tell you Bob hey Bob that’s a great take I’m gonna tell you something here Bob that esin comment why do you think esin made that comment why do you think he made that comment oh Jaylen wants to throw [ __ ] at Nick sirani Nick serani and he wants to throw [ __ ] at the coach and he wants to start making excuses well 2024 better be a better a good year for you Herz or we’ll start that process too like we did with wz okay we can move on from you too we moved on from Doug dude if you can move on from Doug Peterson you can move on from Jaylen Herz what’s he done I think they’re pissed off more so like Jeff mlan reported last week that this right here that esin saying I think that this has a lot to do with organization maybe it’s an idol threat and by the way on June 19th it could be just a threat hey don’t talk [ __ ] on our guys or we’ll move on from you it could be just that subtle don’t you think that was a comment to put Jaylen Herz back in line again and start Towing the line in the company line don’t you think one thing the Eagles do that I respect is they know how to move on from a quarterback absolutely that all day dual threat 4219 thank you brother by the way I’m hearing at the end of the year they’re going to give Brock pie a deal that’s going to put him in the top three highest paid quarterbacks in the National Football League Jaylen will have a bounceback season same could be said about pie Jackson and your beloved Josh Allen hey hey Marcus Brock pie was in the Super Bowl in the Fifth Quarter last year Jackson was the MVP and Josh Allen is considered one of the top three quarterbacks in the league outside of Philadelphia Hertz is not sad that we’re talking about moving on already when February 20123 jayen almost helped us win a Super Bowl Philly media [ __ ] dude that Super Bowl thing is the dumbest thing you could possibly say okay honestly played here I’m going to I’m going to give you guys a point about Jaylen Herz and the Eagles and the ners Niner you may not like this but I’m just going to show you and John McMullen said this this morning did he not just just make sure to double check this here Xander um John said this I didn’t really think he played that bad last year we talking about Jaylen in 23 guess what that’s not good enough to beat that kid in Kansas City and the Eagles and the Niners now know no matter how much money you spend how much money you put in the Huddle it’s not good enough you can’t just have well I didn’t think he played that poorly that’s not good enough the MVP in Baltimore didn’t play good enough so this has to be one of the most disappointing things for ho Roseman to deal with no matter how much money you sp bend it won’t matter cuz your quarterback is not good enough what dides John say I didn’t think he played that poorly that’s not good enough with all that Talent tell me I’m wrong Brock pie took Kansas City into the fifth quarter Jaylen played his ass off not good enough you don’t get graded on a bell curve when it comes to Greatness okay Prince wants to throw the coaching in okay you’re not good enough you weren’t surely good enough in coaching and at the quarterback position you’re not good enough Josh Allen last year they weren’t good enough at the coaching position and quarterback position yes you are not subject to be excused from that dialogue you’re not good enough we’ll see who’s good enough dude you had everyone a year ago play great their numbers dictated once again I keep bringing the point up that you’re blind to nobody had a bad year on the offense nobody who had a bad year tell me who had a bad year in the offense what player had a bad year what player had a bad year Watkins the third wide receiver that they don’t G was injured tell me again who had a bad year quz Watkins well he’s not on the team what player stick to the [ __ ] players and a player accountability what Xander said yesterday what player had a bad gear last year got got’s injured oh now gd’s the new guy G who else I’m not making excuses I’m asking you a question what player on that offense you said Gard okay Gard LJ brings a great point up obsessed with last year because you haven’t fixed last year’s problems and you can’t fix it with signing people that’s the mentality so wait a minute let’s take a ask yourself this question let’s put it down on paper here if they fix their locker room problems and you know what I’ll do I’ll go right along with you guys here you ready okay Herz is not sure he likes the offense that was at his press conference uh Nick serani said in his press conference that the offense was going to be a blend of the old and new Jaylen said the offense is 95% new Jaylen asked the role of the head coach I don’t know the role of the head coach no role head coach Howard esin goes no an employee of the team no it’s about 20% new and then the employee comes out again and says they may start I’m paraphrasing this the transition of looking for a new quarterback so this is what’s gone on in your offseason first Howry doesn’t want to address the Hass on reic stuff that’s not that big a deal but the reic deal um Herz not sure he likes the offense Nick blend of the new and the old Jaylen saying it’s 95% new contradicted by the employee of the team 20% new Jaylen and the head coach doesn’t know role they’ll start a transition if he doesn’t have a good 24 season these are all things that have been going on in the media from the organization in the NovaCare Center get this this is not Media made this is Philadelphia Eagle made this is the same kind of [ __ ] that imploded your season a year ago nobody in the media made this up these are all things that were at press conferences and by an employee of the team where are you getting people are making these story lines up get this these story lines came from Herz an employee of the team and the head coach where in the world are you getting that guys like me made this up where are you getting this from the coach and the player were contradicting themselves the entire offseason and then you had an employee of the team contradicting the quarterback where are you getting and by the way some people even on our Network say this is nothing thing isn’t this the kind of [ __ ] that imploded year a year ago outside noise hey Dan do you think Herz actually believed in Johnson and not serani and maybe he feels the wrong guy was let go yeah I do and he can’t say it how could Brian Johnson be a great coach when you have Nick telling everybody it’s my offense so wait a minute you fired Brian for play calling someone else’s game plan how could you find out or know if that guy’s a good coach or not you never let him be a coach Brian Johnson is getting the heat for Nick sani’s incompetent offensive game plan that’s not fair and jayen didn’t speak up for him that’s not right that’s not right dudey hey hey Roland how many are you not shocked how many people in here are not wanting to hear this hey why don’t you do me a favor Philadelphia sports fans why you go give Trey [ __ ] Turner a 21 minute [ __ ] Standing Ovation for coming off of ir What’s that about who [ __ ] cares go to work kid you give him a 21 minute standing ovation for coming off of ir what in the world is that you got to be kidding me what happened to some of you where in the world do you give Trey Turner a 21 minute standing ovation for a guy who sucked in the playoffs a year ago for coming off of injured reserve I was told you were tough what in God’s name man what an epiphany Philadelphia sports fans who destroy Ben Simmons you’re giving a TW you’re giving a 21 minute standing ovation to a guy because he came off of injured reserve I thought that was reserved for people like Mae 15 and two book it like And subscribe so if you QB move off of Jaylen Herz who’s available or are you going to draft a rookie quarterback and start over all this to protect the bum ass coach it’s a great question we’re GNA do that at the top of the hour here I’m gonna tell you how to move off them maybe Herz wants out what in the world are you doing celebrating a guy coming off an injured reserved what is is that how is that a thing Jesus CME did he hit four home runs in a game no he’s coming off engine Reserve how much you paying him uh $40 million a year $30 million a year I’m not understanding what I’m cheering for doing your job M on dude I would you know I expect that in Los Angeles or I expect that in some snowflake city um you know somewhere else I don’t expect that in Philadelphia Pennsylvania I I don’t guy comes off ir and you’re giving him a 21 gun salute how pathetic the standing o they gave him last year got him going oh but not the money Sam goes like this last year hold on here for a second let me find out something here just to get this Sam says the standing oh got him going let me see something here I got I just got to ask a just a simple question here uh um how much money does Trey Turner make a season according okay so this guy makes $30 million a year but your cheers got him going soft you’re right I’m too old for that because I don’t understand that I’m paid to do a job they already started the wz treatment Herz was the low RIS replacement for Wentz picket is the same for Herz that’s why they traded for Picket hey you know what let’s use a little bit of LJ’s logic now may maybe one of the reasons why you want to hear something crazy I want to I want to I’m going to read this to you here I got to go to the NFL website here if they would have moved off from this year hypothetically if they would have moved off him this year let’s start it now hold on NFL PA I got to type something in hang on can the Eagles move off of jayen Herz okay contract okay here we go here we go I got I got to type this in well the Eagles certainly want to have a strong year in 24 and likely will Herz still is very young and ready moving on after the 24 season would be hasy unless something shocking happens now here’s how it could happen then that’s right Prince I wrote it down here let’s move to it now because I hear Xander bring that number up the 100 million it’s a number it’s a thing how can the Eagles move off of herz’s deal here if Hertz waves is note and this is the big one he waves his no trade cause he’s been paid so far 24.3 million that was for this year obviously it’s not happening and to to LJ’s Point these cap hits make it conducive to move off them I’ll show you how contract also was fully guaranteed in 25 option bonuses of 41 million he has a base of 1.17 that’s why the cap slow in the next three seasons Jaylen Herz will be paid $133 million that’s 44.3 44 million almost $45 million per year now here’s the deal two things would have to happen a team would have to want to pick the year the contract up and he’d have to wave his no claws got to find a partner you got to find a team that would want to make that deal cap pits there some of them are some of these C piit conversations it’s phony because you can restructure Standing Ovation didn’t help on the playoffs it’s a weak look too um the dead cap for the next three years is 12 million for post June one trades not catastrophic you got to find a partner and he’s got a way the smartest thing in the contract is not the money the smartest thing in the contract is is no trade Nicole Lynn getting that no trade puts a lot of it on Herz now let’s do this what if jayen sees the football team implode again internally and there’s too much [ __ ] from up top maybe he wants out and he waves it or he gives the Eagles a list of teams that he’d be willing to go to what if it doesn’t work out in Pittsburgh like the place he wanted to go initially to M Tomlin how about Tampa how about Miami how about the Jets How about if he’s the Arab parent in New York the Jets to Aaron Aaron roggers getting off that deal is not as big as you think you got to find a partner and he’s got to wave the no trade it can be done dude the Denver Broncos now look it’s it’s a it’s it’s half the money they’re paying $44 million Denver for a guy playing in Pittsburgh still in the AFC what if Wilson re he didn’t have that horrible of a season a year ago what if he bounced back and that Steeler team gets a great productive year out of him and they go to the AFC title game you’re paying to beat them and they’re paying 44 million bucks the Steelers are paying 1.5 for a guy that could take him to the AFC title game holy [ __ ] Omar KH way to go what a gamble that is and the gamble is nothing 1.5 the eagle kicker makes more only hey so let’s do this how many people believe that the Philadelphia Eagles if jayen Herz doesn’t have a good season in 24 according to Howard esin if he doesn’t have a good year that they will try to move Heaven and Earth to get out from that contract do you believe that why would they hang on the vine because then get this to what everyone says Xander and everyone people on my network people on the air at IP and The Fanatic and the inquire there’s nothing left to do you’re not good enough what are you gonna do go into every year knowing you’re not good enough Calvin goes esin has zero credibility then why does he work for the eagle Calvin he’s not a talk show host he’s a mouthpiece he’s a megaphone for the team he’s not a talk show host he’s perpetrating himself as one this is you haven’t even played a game yet I’ll tell you something if I’m Nick John mcmullen’s article might actually be right this is a political hot stove right now because that organization is known to panic and new KN knee-jerk moves firing of a coach in season removing a coordinator putting another guy in bringing Matt Patricia in who thought that thing up I’d really like to know who was that has anyone ever answered that has anyone ever answered who hired him who’s hired him who who put him in as the court hey let me ask you this why didn’t you put dinard Wilson oh that’s right you you moved off him and he’s now the DC in Tennessee I forgot that’s right Vic vanio coming out also at a golf tournament that was played on the air today in Philly yeah they wer good last year what wasn’t good doesn’t Vick say good players make good defenses I don’t think he was taking a [ __ ] on toai I thought he was taking a [ __ ] on the players yeah it a’t Wen good last year got new coaches in got new some new players in hopefully we’re going to be better than we were a year ago didn’t Vic fio at a press conference didn’t he come out publicly and say hey schemes don’t make good defenses good players make good defenses so the players on the team last year were not good so wait the guys you’ve been telling me about the greatness of the Howie Roseman drafting the defensive coordinator says that you suck last year the guy who constructed the players and put on the team it wasn’t Nick serani it was Howie Roseman and he’s saying it today on the Philadelphia Airwaves on TV they weren’t good but it was Shawn Desai that’s not what Vic said that’s not what Vic said vic was completely right they stunk it up last year the players did that’s that’s how he looks at it he goes the scheme’s not going to make us better do you understand he said that to you game’s not going to make us better better players make us better the thing that Xander talked about with player accountability Vic believes in it like every good coach does hey think Bill bich is any worse of a coach today than he was when he was winning Super Bowls no they had lesser quarterback play isn’t that the biggest example isn’t that the biggest example yeah had Tom Brady okay and then you went to M Jones and you went to Cam Newton well what’ you think you were going to get it was going to maintain who do you think you are Joe Gibbs this comes down to jimmies and Joe’s s’s making up his on BS what am I making up once again what am I making up her’s not knowing the role of the coach new offense is 95% new the head coach said it was going to be the blend of the old and new Herz not sure he liked the offense an employee of the team came out and said that no it’s only 20% new and then an employee of the team came out and said if Herz doesn’t have a good year they’re going to Carson Wentz the quarterback what’s BS this came out of press conferences in the mouth of an employee of the team what’s BS by the way if one or two of these things were said I agree with Xander you know it’s June 17th one two three four five six seven eight it seems every week there’s some drama then you then then you have Jeff mlan coming out going people in the front office are not happy with jayen Herz so you have Jeff here you have a sideline reporter in Jeff mlan you have an employee of the team in Howard esin you have the coach sa that doesn’t go along with the quarterback and the quarterback contradicting the head coach none of these things came from the media what’s PS what’s BS your own local news played Vic saying you weren’t good and your players weren’t good last year basically took a shot at hoe Howie the guys you put on the defense last year and on the roster weren’t good enough but magically this year they are okay and you traded away your best defensive player okay I can’t believe I see this and no one else can it’s it’s it’s my numbing Vic fio the defensive coordinator swinging a golf club go yeah they were very good oh man and him telling you exactly hey this ain’t gonna be any remember what Dave want Dad said on my program it won’t be because of Vic’s schemes Vic knows what he’s doing it’ll be because you don’t have players are good enough player accountability which nobody in Philadelphia wants to hold anybody to anymore greatest example a 21 gun salute for Trey Lance for coming off IR guy who makes $30 million a year but I mean hey Angelo’s right what happened did lose your balls did you lose your balls I mean did your balls fall off if you’re associated with the Philadelphia Media or town you look for negatives I don’t know if there’s something about their upbringing or they have too many hogies or hey twiz this is coming out of the NovaCare Center and out of the flagship station of the Eagles this is not coming out of the media what are you talking about what are you talking about you’re making it up what are you talking about twiz the quarterback and the coach an employee and the station of the Eagles is saying this and the defensive coordinator is what are you talking about where is the makeup hey and get this that’s a great point I hadn’t added that in so why do you think there’s 30 million in extra cap space I don’t know are they saving money up to move off a Hertz you ever think of that they gotta be like with the only winning team that are $30 million under the cap going into the season did you ever think why are they saving it what are they putting it away for a rainy day National conspiracy show he says how is this conspiracy when the coach and the player and the Nova Care Center and employee and the flagship of the team is saying this what is the conspiracy about it dude like I said if there’s one thing that’s fine if there’s 20 things you haven’t addressed what happened and why last year I still harp on it because I don’t think you fixed why you melted down because you never held anybody accountable for it and the problem still resonates Jaylen Herz should dump water on Howard like Deion Sanders did to Tim mcarver for talking [ __ ] about him really disciple if somebody starts talking like that and says that [ __ ] about me I’m the guy who’s a starting quarterback and the sideline reporter no wonder that what’s his name that ESP guy could write a column about Deshawn Jackson and get away with it because the Eagles tell him that when he was at nj.com the D Kelly people had to leak that to him for him to be allowed in that locker room would you ever trust anybody that cost an eagle his job ever again and allow him to go back into a locker room would you ever trust a reporter after putting all those false innuendos about the Shawn Jackson and even if they some of them had a tting of truth would you ever want a reporter to talk like that about and as a beat reporter knowing the kind of control that Bob Lang and the Eagles have over the reporters would you allow that you call my bosses daily and you allow that and then turn around and allow Howard an employee of the Eagles to go on Airwaves on your station with no ramifications what’s his name says I’m no different than ESP I’m not a reporter I’m a talk show host I’ve never ever in a millionair called myself a journalist he does I’m not looking to get a key fob I could care less I’m I’m paid by Jacob if I would if the Eagles offered me a key fob it would probably hurt my show I’m a talk show host I have opinions when you’re a columnist you’re not supposed to write inuendos that cost players their jobs who actually gives a [ __ ] what I say but guys who are around football players in a locker room on a day-to-day basis hearing private conversations you’re okay with no way that’s not how that works I’ve been in this business too no way John McMullan McMullen knows better too he knows that there’s a difference I don’t think they’d move on really but they’ll move on from Doug and move off of wz well there’s too much money dude if that team will Le $40 million and Carson wentz’s deal they’ll come up with ways hey I thought hoe was some sort of capologist in hoe Vision you’re telling me a guy like that couldn’t come up with a dance partner to move Herz construct a contract a way that would be conducive for the Eagles not to get killed in the cap you’re out of your minds that’s the one thing that guy does exceptionally well you know what he does well comes up with ways of getting out of trouble I think we’re getting Philly 500 on two he wasn’t supposed to but I this is going to be if Philly 500 does show up to this this may be one of the most contested and heated conversations on what’s going on because I’ll tell you what the Eagles now look like the Cowboys there’s drama in the building there’s drama in the building you know I had all these questions here for Mark by the way who does a fabulous job hey and me and Xander say it all the time we love the guy coming on here I do actually that doesn’t mean we’re gonna go soft on his ass but I do want to ask him a Cowboys perspective on this and then we’ll give Philly 500s not taking sides here on this but don’t tell me there’s not [ __ ] going on in that building please hit the like button here’s Mark Holmes oh hey how you doing today man what watching a little bit of my show lately if you’ve been watching today show a little bit your show no man I’ve been kind of busy you know I’m out here helping old ladies and things uh what what did I miss something okay so I wanna I want to throw something at you so uh oh throw throw some [ __ ] at me an employee of the Philadelphia Eagles came out yesterday and is a sideline reporter of the team and is a known legendary Sports talk show host named Howard esin came out oh yeah know yeah Howard’s big time and Howard came out and said this that if Jaylen Herz does not have a great 2024 team season they’ll begin the process of Carson wiing Jaylen Herz you know that’s an employee of the team yeah yeah how’s it feel to be the Cowboys right now a lot more calmer and a lot more quieter no I’m not I’m not kidding here I wan I want to show you a little bit of the drama that’s G on no actually I have been watching because see I was gonna say I I don’t need to give you my perspective because I’m just a hater you know I’m gonna I’m I’m gonna be the one that’s always goingon to say that your team is got issues like with Kell Moore in the offense and when they came out and said 95% now somebody’s saying it’s only like 25% sounds like Jaylen Herz maybe sees the writing on the wall and wants to get out he’s trying to hit the eject Button he’s trying to stir some [ __ ] up and maybe want to get out here’s some of the comments and you broached on one of them there so the head coach Nick serani a couple weeks ago came out in a press conference saying that we’re gonna blend the old and the new and Jaylen Herz came out and said what you said that the offense is 95% new um Jaylen was asked if he likes the offense he goes it’s too soon to see right now cuz I’m not sure the employee of the Eagles came out and said no it’s 20% new um then the employee of the team came out and said well what I’m hearing is that if this thing doesn’t go well in 24 they’ll start the Carson wiing of Jaylen Herz I’m just saying to you I mean it just sounds to me that the eagle front office and you had Jeff mlan a reporter for the inquir last week going like this and saying that last week the front office was not happy with the way Herz was not playing ball with the head coach I mean you are the perfect person to ask because your entire organization is built on drama yes but here’s the difference though I think our drama when well no no just just hold on for a second I think the drama that’s built up the Cowboys is done to keep everybody talking about it I don’t know that all the drama is necessarily is real okay because I think here here’s the thing if I’m Dak Prescott in this contract thing why do I need to be pressed on this thing I’ve been paid before I’m either gonna get paid by the Cowboys or I’m gonna get paid by somebody else I I got the you know best uh agent that’s handling this stuff I basically I’m playing right now because I love the sport and I’m going to get paid big time by some there’s no pressure for me this stuff that’s going on this [ __ ] feels real yeah okay because I don’t see Dak Prescott having any issues and talking about Mike McCarthy or you know that Micah is you know throwing anybody under the bus I’m not seeing the front office throwing the players you got this as like a circular firing squad because I’m sitting there trying to understand this because didn’t they cut Nick serani off at the knees basically take the play calling and basically nobody knows what he’s really doing as his job title right he has now they’re kind of defending him because Jaylen Herz kind of said I don’t know now listen so wait a minute which side are you on are you a Nick are you supporting Nick or are you supporting or not suppor I’m not supporting Nick at all but I will tell you flat out here no I’m at the front office okay no no I think they’re supporting Nick now listen what I want to do after you cut him off at the KNE you you make a point here that your stuff is manufactured by Jerry to keep the the Cowboys relevant in the news because they haven’t had postseason success correct yes I will say that it doesn’t you think this is real with the Eagles and jayen Herz um I bro there’s no way that this can’t this [ __ ] is is just being just spinning around and everybody’s it’s going to be you know Kumbaya moments with everybody it sounds I don’t believe there’s any kumbai moment I want sounds Herz is probably flustered from every year having to learn spend his summer learning a new [ __ ] offense absolutely million now I got this guy coming in here who’s trying to make me a pocket quarterback with combination routes and now I gotta learn this [ __ ] okay let me get Philly 500 in here now oh I was I was gonna wonder I was G you know what how you doing Philly so why are you talking family business with a guy that’s an outsider you know what why are we talking family business with this guy who literally is so delusional that he is now saying that everything that all the drama that ever comes out of cowboy land I didn’t say all let me tell you you should be scared right now from right now till train yeah because that’s when your Cowboy players land in jail which is the only time your team is on the news we are go to jail bro hold it did you see the clip of your linebacker walked down by a stripper I thought it was funny I I I literally watched it live it was hilarious you need to cut him and sign her no no no I thought he gonna make it wait a minute I thought the linebacker took a rooll from hoe Roseman and just showed you not to pay Hassan reic you don’t pay the hooker hey that’s all right man you just don’t pay the hooker too man wait minut I just think that she’s faster than him that’s what bothered me the most that’s why I say cut him and sign her okay dude wait a minute here you see listen always remember something here with Mark they’ll always always he can’t go back to winning it’s always about the Dallas Kardashians right so it’s nothing but this in my opinion I agree with one thing he said you know what it is this seems real and I want have played the timeline out here for you two weeks ago and by the way I know that you’re dumping on serani as well and Angelo cataldi yesterday said way to go Jaylen for telling the truth about [ __ ] and I do think he’s telling the truth I think he’s fed up two weeks three weeks ago um Nick serani comes out and goes yeah we’re gonna mess the new and the old Jaylen comes out and goes this is 95% new do you like the offense he goes too early to tell then you’ve got Howard esin an employee of the team coming out going no it’s 20% dude when you’re an employee of the team and a sideline reporter you’re getting that from somebody inside the organization then yesterday see he he’s not a talk show host anymore he is paid by the Eagles he comes out and says if they don’t see a better year in 24 by Jaylen they’ll begin the Carson wiing I think that’s a euphemism because Wentz wanted to be he demanded a trade but they still went out and drafted Herz in 19 I’m gonna ask you with all of this coming out in this offseason here do you personally think that that meltdown in the internal structuring of how that happened you think this thing is not carried over at least into the offseason with all this noise shut up Mark you have nothing to sit on here with that cowboy thing I’m just enjoying bro I’m just enjoying the implosion okay you know what I tell you what before he answers let me I’m a hater so don’t take my word for it because I know people I know people are trying to spin this okay so let me just play a little clip of somebody who’s trying to justify everything that’s going let him play mute him mute him I know that a lot that’s fine my inter ration of what jayen Herz said was simply this was not trying to track Nick serani publicly but he also is this guy D or what wait a minute Mark wait a minute I don’t think playing a clip of me while I’m here Li he’s not lying enough does that make any sense when he lies they do make any sense this a clip me protect it at all cost you got M won’t give you so I’m going through here Philly and using what you say where you’re trying to why are you talking why are you speaking why am I speaking yeah why are you while I’m freaking here to tell to answer the question explain that to me go ahead Philly go I want toar it’s absolutely ridiculous you know I mean dude could Cherry Cherry picks videos all day of me listen the the the situation with the situation with serani uh and jayen Herz is this I really think the Eagles spilled the beans with this whole thing because I think they reacted to what Jaylen Herz said in a way they didn’t need to and I didn’t even believe that until a day or two until Howard esin comes out you are right Howard esin works for that organization now I don’t believe his threat I just think he’s talking out his ass pH don’t think I said the fact that yeah but the fact that they’re letting him go out there and and say something uh yeah there’s there’s a reason why listen I agree with you and I’m gonna tell you what I think they did because Jeff mlan last week also reported from the inquire I was just telling Mark that they went like this by the way I’m gonna get to your [ __ ] ass too with that daak deal and all you guys sitting around with the cowboy hang in here for a second okay we’ll get the one thing that mlan did that they were pissed off maybe this was a subtle shot sh shot across the bow here Philly where they went like this to jayen play along go along or you may be moved along and it’s an idle threat it doesn’t mean that they’re going to but they’re letting him know through a through an employee who goes on that’s the flagship station a 50,000 watt station of the Philadelphia Eagles where a guy he Philly they they tell the coaches and the players to retreat track comments and to quantify their statements you’re not going to have this guy go out there and retract something if it’s not real he’s the employee of the team I listen there’s no way Howard esin who always is an apologist for the Eagles comes out and says something if there’s not something to it like I think the front office was pissed off about the comments Jaylen Herz made but I think they totally overreacted and I also think that this thing was much more a media question and they gave it a lot of validity by coming out and leaking that they’re upset when it was leaked out that the Eagles front office wasn’t happy I sh shoot it but when esin comes out and says it then I think there’s teeth to it on some level now I don’t think they’re going to get rid of Jaylen Herz or anything like that I don’t think it really matters I think heskin is just is saying something to basically say that the organization isn’t pleased with Jayla Herz not having uh Nick seris back good enough which I don’t understand at all and I don’t understand how they could be upset at Jaylen Herz for saying what he said he did not say anything wrong and you look at at the organization of the Eagles is going through what winning happens when things happen and you’re so close you know what happened with you guys you guys go the same way right no nothing you know the only thing you argue over is contracts it it’s oh that’s true we arguing you don’t argue over you know what’s interesting you know what’s interesting right now you know where my quarterback is he is at tight andu where all the great tight ends are all working out and everything else what quarterback you know J no contract extensiones okay that’s okay he’s going be goes into the final year of their year with no contract EX ition signed Dak Prescott has before Dak presc frch tag is going into the season with no can you name another quarterback in the last five years went into a regular season with no deal the Cowboys have probably used more franchise tags than any other team in the NFL DW franchise tag last year’s deal you act like you act like they’re they’re so great what they’re doing but you never it or not like it this is the Cowboy’s way of doing business I love it I love it I guarantee you this I guarantee you this here we are talking Money Mike is not going anywhere CD is not going anywhere dak’s not going anywhere at least the problem with the Cowboys is they are afraid to make the tough Cuts you know you ever see a guy talk about somebody else’s money so much as this guy let me show you something you know what the problem with the [ __ ] Cowboys is those guys the problem with the Cowboys they afraid to make the tough cuts and I’m gonna show you why you know what no England did Richard Seymour had a lot of Hall of Fame football left what did Patriots do they went like this you’re out he went to Oakland and he ended up becoming a pro bowler you know what they did to Stefon Gilmore you want to deal you were just named the coach the corner of the Year defensive player of the year they moved them M Carolina dude they make the look at what Kans New England spe they move off spe you guys don’t move off anybody I’m roooting for Dallas to sign all these guys sign them to the most money you can please that’s the funny thing Cowboy FS understand we want you to sign Dak we want you to sign these guys because you dollar you can’t even figure out how to sign a guy $59 million capit how are you gonna deal with him at 65 billion okay here’s what’s interesting here here’s what right here at the moment your quarterback is in drama class and at the moment you’re not sure if he is the Jaylen Herz of two seasons ago or if he’s freaking Carson Wentz don’t it’s not my words I’m not the one that’s saying Carson Wentz but I remember saying to you what if he’s like Carson Wentz a one-year Wonder Philly and you know I said that to you before you are the same guy seas that said I’m not sure about Jaylen Herz and he has one good think the greatest quarterback hold on maros has lines Philly I’ll let you talk bro yeah you let me talk you put a video audio let me talk oh it’s oh it’s not it’s not so much fun when the shit’s on the other foot is it son what is what does that mean you are so mad I I don’t know that I’ve seen you so passionate about people [ __ ] on you really don’t have a lot of room to talk about because that [ __ ] organization hasn’t done dick in 35 years yep but I will tell you here’s my the reason I really think your opinion matters is because you know about drama Eagles have had to deal with I believe I said when I first started coming on here our two teams right now are in the same boat got questions eag better you had an epic collapse bro what was it 39 what was that what was the game against hampa Bay you got destroyed oh you want to talk playoffs now huh now you want to talk playoffs to be the Super B Philly Philly when it suits you Philly when it suits you do you talk playoffs otherwise you avoid playoff talk like the plague bro I said and if you want to go back to the tapes we can go back to the tapes both of our teams have a lot to prove and I said the arrogance that you guys have that everything is great we are a great organization I said there’s a lot of questions about what’s going on what the same vote as the Cowboys nobody nobody said we did either of us win the Super last year I don’t understand team assigned all of their guys and got contracts all my guys are contract right now too at here this year here for this year goes out and TR and I can look at it and say take a look at your cap in 2028 where you’re over about $200 million right now 2028 he just said 2028 why are you talking about the Eagles 2028 cap number when you can’t even talk about the 2024 c number of the Dallas Cowboys you can’t talk about your own team what about your team’s c number this year you’ve done [ __ ] hey nice running back get him a cane I know you’re too chicken [ __ ] to show up in Dallas their lunch handed to you but I bet you that my team up finishing better than yours son your team a you’re finish it third you’ll be a third place finish you be behind bro okay you you you want to come why don’t you come to Dallas and last come to Dallas over get the hell out of here what you’re GNA be behind put your ass fetishes on me bro oh listen to more he’s crazy this guy’s literally just you’re the one talking about people are you gonna pay Dak Prescott 60 million bucks yeah they will they will that’s that’s gonna be the going rate bro sorry look Trevor freaking Lawrence getting 55 million are you kidding me get 567 think they’ll win well you know what if everybody has to do it it’s the same thing you may end up having to get rid of Jaylen H taking dead money hits bro J you know what I’m gonna do I’m gonna do what the 49ers did I’m gonna pay a guy 800 Grand to get the same results I’m not gonna pay a guy $55 million and I actually like the kid down in Jacksonville but not that much I don’t like hey bro I think he was anywhere near that kind of money but it is what it is the n is going to be sprting out money bro the question is is why do the Dallas Cowboys wait until the last second to sign these guys why would you allow all these guys to be sign that’s what they do bro you’re asking leop to change so you mean your Genius organization that’s so genius it go that’s why you haven’t won in 30 that’s why you have not won in 30 years and that’s why oh my God so you finally win your one Super Bowl and now you guys are Super Bowl experts am I right nobody said anything super expert Eagles know everything and that’s why they’re literally imping this guy’s so jealous that the Eagles are relevant in today’s world and the Cowboys aren’t it’s it’s ridiculous like I said the Cowboys haven’t won 30 years he gets so mad he’s like oh all you guys do is brag about one Super Bowl I didn’t just say anything about super it’s a good thing a good question by Philly what could you possibly be talking about on a daily basis when you’re a cowboy guy and you’re a creator of you know what I’ll tell you what there’s plenty to talk about there’s always D Prescott every video D Prescott are we all in are we not all in is Jerry you know why I’m hard on the Eagles I’ll tell you why mark because everything that you guys do in Dallas is the things that stop you from winning and right now there’s a little bit of that going on in Philly a lot uncharacteristic right Philly listen listen uncharacteristic yeah we’re not perfect and they don’t do everything right that I think that they should do I’m critical on tell they’re doing stupid [ __ ] I would have fired Nick serani last year I have said this I think and I worry about this being a problem going into this year however at least my team goes out and they make make plays to go out and get better better they get guys they retain guys and I have stuff to talk about Mark literally has to do sevenos it’s undercovered videos all he does okay let me talk now you said to me oh let me talk you make eight videos a day and they’re all about Dak Prescott literally all and even if it’s not titled it always comes back to Dak Prescott you got to get off the guy’s balls get off his balls he has not won anything okay okay all right I I listen you talk about Trevor Lawrence right you’re like oh Trevor Lawrence only has one playoff win he has one less playoff win than Dak Prescott let that s okay now now let me okay C can I let me play a little clip here we go M him and and I want you to answer because see this is not for me m him because I’m a hater I I’m G to tell you I hate the Eagles I am going to trash talk it I will take it out of that’s why that’s why I like you that’s why I like you because you’re here’s the thing though okay this is your own people talking about your team and where they are my first question is is do you think that your team is better than the Cowboys right now yes I don’t even need to wait for the clip okay all right let’s do this I I go ahead play it but I yeah of course they are I think I think Dallas takes just listen you do not okay go ahead so you think there’s nothing to it that a sideline reporter and a employee of the Eagles is going out on a 50,000 watt powerful WIP and that’s a nothing Burger Xander said it the other day on June 17th and that hurts comment with all this stuff is not just listen son her saying the offense is 95% new what’s his name coming out saying wait it’s not it’s about 20% I don’t know what the role is of the head coach now you’re having a guy come out saying they’re goingon to start the process of looking for a new quarterback after this year if he doesn’t have a good year this does not resemble the Meltdown of last year you never addressed it because of the most important thing that you did do you didn’t change the culture in your locker room that that’s what Philly’s been he wanted him at the end of the year that’s the culture okay and you don’t see that as a problem that automatically you’re gonna be able to just get past that issue you’re a great team with all these problems I think it’s no not all these problems I think that’s a potential issue I I do but you know that’s why they also got new off this is a 30y year issue Philly with them right ever since the cap that that team hasn’t done anything ever since they’ve but you know here’s what I will say at least Haven done anything at least I can say that my offensive coordinator the play caller and my quarterback are on the same page in an offense that they have already been in for a year they haven’t played one one snap yet there has they had the same system last year I will say learning curve going to be a lot different for you guys starting over with jayen Herz relationship is they haven’t played a snap yet I mean you why am I supposed to assume that Jaylen Herz is going to be having a bad relationship with Kell Moore because you didn’t like Kell Moore in Dallas I don’t understand it he hasn’t played one snap and let me tell you something yes there’s issues with Jaylen Herz and maybe how he feels about Nick and the Eagles overplayed their hand yeah all true but at the end of the day I’m more concerned about how jayen herz’s relationship with Kellen Moore is than Nick serani Nick serani has been neutered okay and that’s just that’s just the truth so I’m more worried about the relationship between Kell Moore and Jaylen Herz let me throw this and and and Philly I want you to comment on this and this is to you Mark here about the last 50 starts for the for Dak Prescott this 60 million dollar potentials number I want to compare something and by the way again I get it when the conversation of postseason comes up the postseason obviously is something that elevates your your game and who you are but listen to the last 50 starts Patrick Mahomes I already know 36 36 and 14 Dak Prescott 33 and 17 passes touchdown 105 Dak Prescott 105 int 39 for momes 38 for Dak passer rating 98 n for Mahomes 101.3 for Dak yards per attempt 7.5 for Mahomes seven in 7.6 for Dak Prescott completion percentage 688 for momes 684 for Prescott so when the last 50 starts the Cowboys are getting playoff momes type numbers and it again it’s regular season and you’re paid on your numbers you’re not paid on wins when it comes to NFL contracts so is this why he’ll get that 60 million and and to you Philly do you think those numbers don’t tell the true story of what who he who he is you know yeah go ahead iom football before I get to that I want to just revisit one one question that’s kind of weird in this Dynamic where the co coach and the quarterback aren’t getting along didn’t you have a similar situation with Carson Wentz where he literally didn’t talk to the coach I think for eight months or something like that at some point you have to wonder what’s going on here this Dynamic that the quarterback and the coach don’t get on the same page I thought it was more the coach in the GM than it was Wentz and the coach with Doug Am I Wrong Philly yeah I think I think Carson and Doug you know Doug had his back I think till the end I mean Doug did everything he could uh the the the issues were more I think maybe Howie and Carson than anything else so is that a front office versus the field hands issue something that’s been carried over now to this regime and that’s something that my friend Xander Krauss brought up was that maybe this is collateral damage from Wentz and also the firing of Doug and the control that the front office has now to to to Philly’s point one thing is for sure this is uncommon for how the Eagles in this offseason is going here and because of what happened remember something you played your best ball last year the Cowboys and still murdered they played their worst ball in three years that team looked like that four- win team but yet won 11 games and backed here here’s the difference they backed out of the playoffs you backed into the NFC East but remember the promise of what everybody thought the Eagles were going to that season coming off the after all of the moves that you made the same stuff everybody said about the Cowboys they don’t care about winning they’re not going out and getting players and Yad y y they stink nobody looked and said that team should be in the Super Bowl from what they did in the off season the Eagles you guys had best offensive line great wide receiver um young stud quarterback a defense that was supposed to be really really good that turned out to be really really ass I’m and I’m not trying to say this as a hater I’m looking at saying you guys were projected to be great and you ended up being average we were projected to be average and we ended up being average we weren’t a we weren’t average we were historical I will say we wereing the way you did down the stretch you were below average we were historical we started 10 one chats thank you guys we won we started 10 and one and we looked we looked like you know a team that just never quit and then we totally fell off the face of the Earth it’s one of those weird historical things you know what agates me what happens every so often you know what aggravates me is besid Eagles front office that that’s not that’s not okay that’s true thing too because how he’s a gator so I won’t lie now now but you you just have just like walked away from all the incompetence of 30 years and just throwing the Eagles I love wait a minute so when it’s January what do you talk about in February ski I could tell you I could tell old Cowboys we choked January is usually Mark January is it’s about two months of it’s not dak’s fault we we blame everybody else but that’s that’s it so he goes he goes in the Dak to Dak sa no I mean seriously Mark you sit there I heard you talk about Lamar Jackson and one of your arguments about Lamar Jackson was that he doesn’t win in the playoffs but like how can you bring that up and throw that and yeah Prescott you hold everybody else been injured going into the playoffs but you don’t hold back to those standards you only hold the people that make your argument about listen ask everybody in the chat does Mark hold D Prescott accountable and I bet you 90% of people say no bro I point that out because people will say Lamar Jackson is Head and Shoulders above Dak Prescott and I point out his playoff record is only one less loss than Dak Prescott’s so when I say if you’re saying that he’s great you you can’t turn around and say that this guy sucks ass you yeah but you don’t you don’t Trevor deserves to get paid 55 million and D get paid anything why why why doesn’t he why doesn’t Trevor Lawrence deserve it based upon playoffs he has one less playoff win than Dak one interceptions Mark he’s won he has one less playoff and what about dak’s interception how many times he been a runner up in the MVP you how many turnovers has that guy had in his career here that he is you said Trevor Lawrence didn’t deserve the money he only has one playoff win when you look has Trevor lawr anywhere close to Pat mes Mark he’s he’s already got half the win hey let me ask you this let me ask this question mark he avoids the question the question one time out of three years mark one time out three years if if jayen Herz was a starting quarterback in Dallas how many wins would they have this year wait a minute say that again if Jaylen Herz was a starting quarterback in Dallas how many wins would they have this year with the running game we have we would have a losing season if Dak Prescott was the starting quarterback if Dak Prescott was the starting quarterback in Philly oh you would be doing a lot better than what Jaylen Herz because at least he knows Kell Moore system understands combination rout I disagree of course you disagree Bro think for 5000 yard you have those green colored glasses you literally think secondary is gonna be better than the Cowboys it is gonna be you don’t have any credibility when you say some stupid [ __ ] like that listen dude you can’t talk about credibility when you sit there and you make excuse after excuse about the same guy you would rather Dak press on the Cowboys and lose then the Cowboys win it’s the truth I’m sorry I say this to you all time had you make nothing but listen Dak Prescott on the Eagles you the wat they probably don’t get out of the first round of the playoffs there’s nothing about Dak Prescott that has showed me that he can win those big games so until I see it like Kurt Cousins to me he is not a big game quarterback that team three years ago that cowboy team three years ago had a ton of Talent on it they did but here’s the pro here’s the problem at least as I see it okay one here you go and it’s everybody else but D watch this watch this watch this watch this you know you have to learn you have to learn to win bottom line and for whatever reason they have a mental block and things like that now with that being said the thing that I wish the Cowboys were more Eagles is is when you guys lose a player during the season you were out there hunting to try and fill that that that Gap in there when I see you try out go out and get a Robert Quinn even though that one didn’t work out or namic and sue you say we have a need because we lost a player the Cowboys don’t do that we lost overon who was a rookie in training camp they hor agency yeah and we got Leon vanderest that we all know is one hit away from being gone they lose him in week three and we never replace it Mark you know Mark here’s the problem you you you you build your team like you’re still in the 90s by looking at the draft as being more of a priority than where you get players in free agency and fil here here’s what they don’t do their Core group of guys they’ve overestimated them and here’s what I mean by that look I think I I get killed on this one too personally I think that Micah is a good player is he a $35 million is that Joey Boza when I look at him impact I don’t see that better team better defensive tackles he’s probably that guy but on that defense that can’t stop the run he wears down and by the end of the year you know what you have a finesse ball player that can’t make plays and that is Cowboys failure by the time they get to playoff no Philly you know what I I hear all the [ __ ] that you want to put it all [ __ ] it’s all all this all these excuses are just rapid all these things that stuff front allj it’s all wrapped around protecting Dak let me to ask you this Green Bay vers Dallas in Dallas Dallas the second seed did cidd land play yes he did why did it look D Prescott and cidd lamb never play don’t know where his mind was I’ll tell you what happened Dak Prescott big game that’s what happened okay if you say so he chok Mark but Mark it did look like they had a conflict between the two of them they did and I don’t know what the hell was going on because CD was just kind of like I’m just kind of wasn’t he going what’s going on to me it looked like C Lamb’s mom even came out and said what did Dak Prescott’s trash I mean come on man I mean we all know your quarterback has to show he can win in a big game that’s it here’s the interesting thing about that one is evidently he don’t listen to Mama because if he wanted out of Dallas he wouldn’t be holding out for a new contract because if he gets a new contract he ain’t going anywhere why would I leave the making $60 million a year D be he he knows D he knows dak’s days are numbered I mean I don’t think dak’s got long long if I were a year if I were Dak Prescott I would love to be in the position that he’s actually in oh God I don’t I want Dak to stay in D please stay in Dallas it’s it means that you’re not Mark I’ll tell you what here here’s the advantage on both ends of that with Dak if I’m Dak Prescott say I don’t win I’m gonna make more money in Dallas because you know why I’m the biggest movie star in America because I am the most watched Guy on TV that doesn’t mean I’m gonna win but if I want to go to Tennessee and I want to go to some of those places I’m not making the exposure money that I only only you gotta get out of Dall if you’re Dak if you want to win you gotta get out of Dallas right and that would be the move to make is I need a team kind of like what the Rams did I need a ready built team that that actually is going to support the quarterback and do can’t wa 49ers I don’t want to say it you know like the 49ers do bringing in people like the eagles try to do unfortunately now you got a little bit of drama with all these hired it’s all it’ll all I stick by my prediction of the Eagles going eight- nine this season you know there’s nothing Philly okay well I I’ll I’ll make a bet about that let’s bet that I’ll bet that Eagles go eight and nine no Eagles will have at least nine wins or more easy so I’ll bet you we we’ll make that bet I like that bet Mark I got ask you though where are you getting your run game and who’s your two and three wide out and your old line is not the same you’ve got a new center them I like the pick from Kate this ain’t the Big 12 dude this is the I hear you I hear what you’re saying but bro our offensive line has been been in flux since uh Travis Frederick had hillian bars our offensive line has not been like the eagles which has been Stout I have to give you credit you have an incredible offensive line but remember we brought in Jason Peters at the point where he couldn’t play more than 15 plays in a game and had to have him as a starter we’ve had they get ahead of that problem in Philly like everybody everybody minut a minute they get ahead of that problem here’s the two things that hopefully they’re getting ahead of it now if it ends up working out and they signed their guys well we’ve signed all of our our free agents you know guys you got no free agents what are you talking about we just sign look at what they did look at what they did they signed they signed AJ Brown shut down Jordan Mada Stein Bryce hop and they did all this why you guys are still waiting around for CD lamb Dak Prescott and Michael Parson it’s ju it’s June 19th you got 34 days they will all be playing this year I can guarantee yeah but Mark I see Mark Player is Eagle fans want Prescot your idea is doing it this way okay because see here’s the thing I can say is I can look at a move like what the Cowboys did and bringing in somebody like Malik hooker as opposed to you guys going out and get your big name say big play SLE and Bradberry and all these guys I can look at how much the Cowboys actually played Mal I know they’re corners but I’m just saying in free agency I can look and say that Malik hooker has been an incredible free agent for the Cowboys for three years and I can look and see how much money you got tied up with these guys and you’re like do we want to keep these old ass guys can we trade them do we need to cut them you’re dealing with all the drama not every free agent move that you’ve made has been great yeah but they’ve been financially you can laugh about you know our free agent signings of U you’re missing the point the Eagles are financially responsible you’re not the longer you wait the higher market price you’re paying bro but you taking time bomb that’s gonna happen down the road what what’s that what’s that tiing time bomb well if Jaylen hurts if it is going to be Carson Wentz you are I Know Dan you say if you can find somebody to trade for him that’ll trade for that contract I don’t know that somebody is going to he this year let me tell you something about Howard esin Howard esin does work for the Eagles and he does he does uh the fact that he said something probably uh means that the Eagles weren’t happy about something but he he makes outlandish comments I mean saying that that he’s Carson Wentz is ridiculous uh I don’t believe that for one instant because uh if anybody goes it’s gonna be Nick serani before jayen Herz if if we’re talking about a Bad season it’s going to be J it’s going to be Nick serani that goes he’s going to take the weight of it no matter what why are they protecting him so much Nick serani because they’re not protecting him Dan I think they’re protecting their ego I think they’re protecting their decision see they wanted I think they wanted your quarterback under the bus I I wait what $50 million that’s why you I’m paying you 50 million you need to play the reason why the Eagles were upset make they wanted jayen Herz they wanted Jaylen Herz to go out there and and give Nick agree you know more of a voucher being team and so they were upset but if they just would have not said anything Mark Philly we’re gonna wrap this up here but phly this is what I think happened it was poor timing because during the season I want my quarterback throwing people under a bus and I want some [ __ ] being said about guys and coaches not happening on June 17th the day when that was said you needed to guy to play along and go hey Nick’s doing a great job you know he’s overseeing everything it was poor timing and you got to do [ __ ] sometimes when you’re a quarterback and this is what I think Dak does pretty well you know what thing Dak does well man tries not to create as much drama in that building as possible for the Cowboys where they can have drama every day look at this guy this guy’s going to create 17 [ __ ] videos of drama if they could but he tries to at least suppress that they wanted jayen I agree with you Philly they wanted jayen to go out there instead of saying I don’t know what Nick’s role is as a head coach they wanted him to go he’s overseeing everything I think personally it was poor timing and I think this aggravated like Jeff mlan said last week and I think they threw a cannonball across the table about him to get him online going you need to play along here well you know a few days ago so I I was like yeah you know the whole the front office upet I was like eh whatever but when when Howard came out and made his comments then I knew that there has to be something to it I don’t know what level but there’s something to it I I you know I think it’s June I also think there’s not a lot going on you get in a camp you get a preseason you get in the game you win games all this stuff quickly goes away but this is Media made Mark hey Philly no player this is player talking at a press think initially I think initially it was was mediamate but then the Eagles gave it validity yeah by the problem they could have just ignored it and it wouldn’t be anywhere near as big as away I agree and it was just like wait a minute now why are you throwing the this is what Billy says about them protecting their identity mark this is the one thing that the Eagles are now going through that I think it’s in the way a little bit of their success this year is the [ __ ] that gets in the way of yours which is this they allowed something to fester and then they expanded it which they didn’t need to they didn’t need to have that conversation about hey wait a minute no the coach he it’s old meshing of the new and and jaylen’s going no this is a brand new offense I think jayen was telling the truth but the ownership didn’t want Nick to look bad because of what Philly said this goes back to Doug they’ve got to validate that exactly right they they they let Doug go after going what winning a Super Bowl going three straight playoffs and then uh Nick serani goes to the Super Bowl last year they didn’t want to look like wow we fire these guys really quick so they didn’t fire Nick I believe that’s one of the main reasons why they didn’t fire Nick was because they didn’t want to look like a team that is willing to cut their losses with a coach very see what he’s saying oh am I part of this conversation wait the Eagles don’t like drama you do oh Jerry says I like to stir [ __ ] up yeah but that gets in the way of your success I you’re you’re preaching to the choir but you know what I hate when you do that because you just let that go by you’re bro youve place in America doesn’t matter is Dallas Texas bro bro you know you’ve been married for a long time and I’m sure you love your wife to death you know yeah but you know there’s some [ __ ] about her that you can’t stand but you take the I’ve never person I hated more and I loved more in my life my 34 year marriage to my wife there you go see and that’s what I’m saying I I can’t say I like everything the Cowboys do I don’t believe me I want to see them win I would like to see the Cowboys sign yeah but when I was younger I was 27 pounds and I had three Super Bowl rings and I was winning all those those days are long gong I’m a fat old guy now man this shit’s gone I forgot all about that guy don’t you get tired of talking about yourself when you were 23 years old that’s what the Cowboys are nope hey man we were really good back in the day when Myspace was a thing yeah that was before my was before Myspace I don’t think they had YouTube yet right all rightly they can find you bro uh you just type in Philly 500 or uh Philly 500 knock it out Mark Holes and I will come up right away Mark Holmes tell folks how they can find your look for Philly 500 it’s Daddy and you’ll find me no actually Jo sports report and um hopefully we’ll be in training camp with Dan Leo um broadcasting and definitely hey Mark do me a favor text me and I’ll set that because we’re gonna set the Cowboys in the Rams thing up if you want to do that do they have joint practices yes they’re gonna have joint practice hey phly if you want to come down I’ll get you um a hotel room down there around the corner they got hotel rooms the Cowboys do that they give me a rooms for my friends if we go there and broadcast so you can hang out bring your kid down if you want okay we definitely to do that let you know yeah but oh wait a minute are you are you gonna blow us off are you C you know Philly not he can get down there it’s a car ride for him I’m you dude Philly tells me you bail he’ll do this set he’ll set a he’ll set a beted up and then 24 hours before all of a sudden you come down with malaria yeah he bails or changes it that’s some [ __ ] there okay some [ __ ] okay I I will send you my flight information for wi I’m just waiting for the practice schedule to know exactly when we’re going to be coming um the Rams game I believe is the 10th of August I’m not sure has a bad practice you know I I can’t wait my the video that I wait the most for is the day that that the Cowboys and D cut ties I want to see that video that Mark makes yeah it is going to rush epic Cooper Rush well apparently it’s not gonna be um Trey Lance because Trey Lance has not been Trey Lance has been looking like uh yeah this time he didn’t he’s looking like Tio Herz I think I think it’s too early to say these things like like we don’t know yet to be honest it’s it’s summer get let’s get the camp you know is it J wait you don’t you you don’t think he’s like that uh uh JaMarcus Russell he oh sciss you gotta drink that grape thing yeah the scissor yeah there you go okay guys thank you so much phly thank you thank you man hit the like button you guys love you guys very much don’t forget Mark Holmes does a great job covering the Dallas Cowboys also our boy Philly 500 hit the like button you guys were spectacular just great stuff hit the like button Xander Krauss will join us at the bottom of the hour don’t forget Merl ree the voice of the Eagles will join us at 5:30 Eastern hit the like button keep it here national football show if you missed any of today’s show on the Jacob media channel listen to the podcast on your way home available on YouTube apple and Spotify [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] heading down the shore have a ball once more here imaginations run wild and time stand still because here you can find the best of the 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here guy I just I I don’t know what happened something overcomes me Bob goils get bash on Philly but nobody else can I’m I’m starting to think that that is real I’m starting to think that’s real I just I don’t know what it was because he started going yeah what are they going what I’m like who again are you and I played for the damn thing for a cup of tea oh I don’t know we’ll get Xander on here in a minute always good defending your little brother he I don’t know man s has a soft spot for Philly I’m thinking that possibly is my wife says I really don’t have a soft spot for anything other than my kid my show I guess maybe you I’ve never had a soft spot in my life for what I was telling my audience until now maybe it’s because you can see me oh so what are you saying here Senor I’m just a tough guy with a mic is that what you saying well this may play into a little bit of that too let me ask you this if I’m criticizing the Eagles for not having a plan on replacing ing certain players that they get rid of what is the Jet’s excuse for getting rid of Bryce huff and not having that whole thing with Hassan reic at least resolved before the player was traded for it’s been reported that the owners are starting to cry about the cost of the quarterback being too expensive so they’re trying to put a cap on it well welcome to collective bargaining and I would say this to you too disciple you put gambling up there we’ll talk about cap where we can make extra money that’s called collective bargaining but remember something I’m not going to use the term because it’ll come off as racist the owners to this day still look at the Players as cattle okay cattle let’s use cattle but they do we have never won in any way shape or form a strike it’ll never happen the contracts are not guaranteed do you understand that’s why the NFL owners own the players the only people that really get big money are the quarterbacks nobody holds out Herz said what he said because he believed in Johnson and if they were going to change the offenses they should have used Johnson not serani that’s why okay this comment here with Joe Douglas though so Joe Douglas makes a move you get rid of Huff let him walk out the building but you haven’t Justified why you traded for reic and you didn’t know that and and you can’t use the excuse to play or lied to you you had to have that resolved you had to have that resolved and they didn’t if he that guy’s not there in September playing week one that’s Joe Douglas disaster it’s a total Joe Douglas disaster so you let Huff walk out the building in the free agent right Joe Douglas all right okay but then you didn’t have a plan to replace him and 10 sacks well you better hope that he’s what you thought he was not that great a player and he was a product of the def see Joe Douglas’s opinion is Bryce Huff is a product of the defense not Bryce Huff helping the defense have that kind of season they had a year ago even though they sucked he looks stupid right now alter cowboy goes [ __ ] getting Millions is being called a slave no mentality nobody likes to say that we own you because your contracts aren’t guaranteed and here Ultram you’re compensated because of the television product you’re not compensated because the owners want to pay you if you had that as a reasoning why do you have a draft why do you have a salary cap why do you have franchise tags transition tags why don’t you just pay to the highest bidder because the NFL wants to control that because they believe in parody see the NFL unlike other leagues believe that you’re only as good as the weakest link which means the number one team in the league the Chiefs and the worst team the Carolina Panthers have to make the same money and they do no other organization in professional sports league in North America has that Dynamic you know the Carolina Panthers make the same money annually every year and David teer makes the same money and the value of his team goes up the same as Clark Hunt’s team in Kansas City goes up there’s no difference merchandising television rights all of them are paid the same amount of money $375 million a year and value goes up 19% of your team and your net wealth and if you get a new stadium that enhances your and accentuates your wealth as well that’s how the league believes that’s why they’re in court right now over that Direct TV thing because the Dallas Cowboys if they wanted to charge premium prices for just Dallas Cowboy games could make 10 times more money than what did Jerry say the Bengals but he goes That’s not right why isn’t that right it’s capitalism no in the NFL it’s more like feudalism they believe that we’re an organization we’re one we’re the shield we’re growing The Shield we’re not growing the cowboy brand so yeah I thought some listen I thought some of the conversation we had see the difference between the Cowboys and the Eagles this is real this is real this is real drama the cowboy stuff I think is more it just seems Hollywood it reminds me of Colorado Football like Deion Sanders football it looks just contrived doesn’t look real conversations all they talk about in Dallas’s money this is about Direction this is about unprecedented drama that the Eagles don’t really like I’ll tell you something let’s do this before we bring Xander up has there been more drama in the building and Philadelphia you help me out and educate me since Doug’s been fired has there been more drama with the Eagles since Doug’s been fired is that a direct direct correlation with Howe having all the power and one guy having all the power because it looked like there was some balance under even stupid chip when he got thrown into broom closet like since how he’s been taken out of the broom closet has there been more drama with the Eagles Ganon house hunting during Super Bowl week know me congratulations to you thank you for buying me that $10 million House of scotch Style thank you Eagle fans I got a house of scotch style all right yeah get this I heard Birds 365 and John you know never it’s no big deal got an employee of the UN you got employee of the team barking you got coaches and quarterbacks barking [ __ ] it no big deal let’s bring Xander that’s June 17th what’s up big Sals all right sander by the way first and foremost who Philly 500 with a knockout again is he just is he Undisputed I thought it was closer Philly 500 I love you I thought it was a little closer this time it’s tough to answer to this if you’re a Philly fan I got to be honest it really is it’s not a good look and you saw it I mean you know I’m with Philly 500 on most things but even hey he didn’t really have a response for this now I think like you said Dallas’s position is a whole lot worse but this does not look good and and it’s what you said I think it’s a I think it’s shows that they didn’t fix what caused them the collapse last year last year wasn’t a talent collapse it was something inside the locker room and it doesn’t look great I’m not going to be honest or I’m G to be honest it doesn’t look great but do but here’s where I might agree with him I’ll still to win to Philly 500 though by the way I thought he here’s here’s something though that maybe we can all agree on do you think because when Howard comes out and says and I think John took it ver for verbatim and I thought it was more of a euphemism that they’re going to Carson went him which to me meant moving on from him in some way or for or fashion that hey if how’s so brilliant on contracts you don’t think he can contrive a deal to get a dance partner to work a contract up to move off of him if he’s so good at these contracts let me tell you something about hoe you don’t think that guy has built the fail safe for him to get out of deals oh he definitely has if you look at the the fine print I mean there technically is a way they could get out but I don’t think they’re going to go that route because okay I agree but how about this do you think was that they really were pissed off and they told Howard esin hey guess what if this guy doesn’t want to play along with us let me tell you something we moved on from Doug we moved on from Wentz we can move on from him nobody is Expendable here when it comes to the way we’re doing business and it was more of a message like a smoke signal right with I don’t know how much intent Xander that was made for him to go hey fall in line get in line or walk line see that’s where I think you were really on to something with and and Philly made up a good point and me and John talked about this this was really it really was overblown until the organization verified it by one Jeff mlan comes out key figures are upset at Jaylen Herz who’s key figures hoe and Jeff those are the only key figures absolutely only people that matter right the only people that matter are Howie and Je are really Jeff and hoe so Jeff more than hoe though obviously Jeffrey lur the owner and now Howard esin comes out first he denied the 25% thing which which might show that they were also upset with that because it undermined the head coach and now they’re saying you know now he comes out and says this yday they’re GNA C it’s like listen Jaylen you better start making us look good or else we will find a way to move on from you and make you look like the bad guy it’s kind of it’s it’s messed up if that’s what they’re doing but I wouldn’t put it past them I mean look they did did the same thing to Doug in a different kind of way Doug said I’m not going to do what you guys want me to do and they fired him they fired him like it was easy you know I think there they might be I think you’re on to something there I don’t wantan to I don’t want to go there yet here it’s not connect though right let me do something to you here and this is directed at you yeah you’ve gotten how many calls about me from that organization on just the dumbest stupidest smallest [ __ ] five six we get a lot we’ve gotten probably more than that I mean we okay okay yeah if Howard was so off base wouldn’t they demand a retraction on the flagship station of the Philadelphia Eagles and an employee of the philad he’s an employee of the Eagles he’s not employed he’s a Super Bowl ring Dan right he gave him a Super Bowl ring do you know that some broadcasters don’t get him some broadcasters don’t get rings my point is he is obviously in cah with the with the organization you and Angelo I think it was Angelo said it the other day like how is not going to jeopardize his job at this point in his career he wouldn’t say something unless the Eagles were okay with whatever he was going to say you want to hear something Brad sham doesn’t have a Super Bowl ring yeah which is absurd by the way Brad sham is Reese of Philadelphia right because they they look at them wanting to control them a little more okay Merl’s different Merl Merl’s different he’s gone through generations it’s a different thing this guy was a talk show host masquerading as a talk show host but now an employee of the team they’re not going to want Xander they don’t even want me calling your GM a CPA but they’re gonna allow that guy to come out and go like this they’re gonna Carson Wentz Herz if he doesn’t have a good 24 year and not go like this to the PD hey PD man I want that guy to go on the air and retract that you made players last year and coaches retract all kinds of statements and quantify what you meant to clarify what you meant you’re not going to clarify that comment no it’s true now Howard now I do think the Eagles probably Howard is a big mouth like like Yale says that Howard is a big mouth he speaks in superlatives like you do you know and I think there’s some of that that goes into it but the point is correct Howard won’t say something to jeopardize his job with the Eagles what he said makes the eagles look worse which means the Eagles wanted it out there or they were okay with it being out there and Howard got the okay to run with it because now I mean what does this look like like I don’t know how we defend this I’m not GNA go overboard I think if we win ball games who cares because away right now it doesn’t look great I mean look I’m an I’m an Eagles fan and and I know everybody in here is does it not give you some pause though the way we ended last year yes like look I’m carried over into the off seon right like I’m trying to be honest about this I hope we go to the Super Bowl I hope we win the next five Super Bowls but I am concerned that whatever it was that led to them going one and seven last year is still prominent in the organization here you see what Steve Ikes says here it’s a great take by Steve no football talk yet I know we’ve been waiting for it the entire offseason Steve how about that Steve you’re right we’ve been waiting for it but the Eagles the head coach the quarterback um an employee of the team has come out these are not media Ma and then you got like you said Jeff mlan who’s a who is a beat writer for the inquire that covers the team on a day-to-day basis is not going to jeopardize his availability to be able to get in that building they’re not going to name and do [ __ ] where the organization is upset this is not made up by us this is people in the organization still doing this like I said I mean I sit here and I do birds 365 I run this channel I’m a part of the media now I guess you could say I never I never I don’t view myself as that but that’s how I’m going to be perceived now I never thought this was I thought I felt like when I was doing the show this is overblown like this is stupid to talk about for more than a week but once the stuff comes out about the front all about higher ups and now Howard now I’m like okay now it’s like it’s like the Hanan reic deal right like okay maybe it was the right move to move on from Ham reik then Howie goes up on the stand and he starts getting defensive now I’m like hm now maybe he did make the wrong move there like when you get defensive about it or you you validate it with those comments and or in that case with that reaction now I have actual pause and like I said I don’t think it’s going to be something that der rails the season but if they don’t get this on track I mean you know we went one and seven last time there was dysfunction in the organization down the stretch so what’s gonna happen this year how about this do you think jaylen’s Behavior has caused tense feelings in the front I’m I’m not saying catastrophic like like but do you think they’ve done this you know this guy has gone on two years we needed him last year and now we needed him in the off season and we’re just not seeing him play along with us like Nick’s playing you know you know what it looks like to me Nick’s playing along yeah you know what it looks like to me that’s why I think to your point why they’re defending Nick more because Nick more of a team ball player with that front office than Jaylen is jaylen’s more like Doug it’s that’s a that’s that’s exactly where I was about to go is that is this the Doug Peterson treatment on the quarterback right now yep yep oh my gosh I didn’t even think about that and now that I’m thinking about it doesn’t it look like it it really does look like it now now South Jersey D says is serani the real problem the front office is trying to hide that’s kind of what I think but serani is doing the dance he’s playing iCal game right of the eagles which you have to play when you’re here Doug Peterson wasn’t willing to play it now that you said that I don’t think jaylen’s the problem at all but I’m saying I think Jaylen might be upset with what how they’re handling or the power structure or all those things who’s more valuable to Jeffrey Lori right now Jaylen Herz or Nick serani it’s got to be Jaylen herdz no but but here’s the you would think you would think but he’s the one who hires coaches so maybe he feels a personal thing there where it’s like I can’t fire another coach that won me an NFC title we’re developing the coach that we always coveted see now my my point is my my stance on this is evolving Brandon the great says they are disgusting Jaylen is standing up now I maybe Angelo really was right in a in a sense where Jaylen is not putting up with this organization’s [ __ ] now they’re using Jeff plan they’re using Howard esin and they’re they’re they’re they’re cornering him to say hey dude this isn’t just media reaction this is us we’re pissed at you for what you said and for not falling in line if you will let me show you something else here and I I I hit on this and I’m glad that you clarified it um when I when I brought up BP that Elliot Spitzer whatever guy who wrote that article on Deshawn Jackson not the rehash that however so this guy was was bled some Intel from maybe Chip Kelly’s regime and he wrote that and you allow that guy back into a locker room and you allow that guy around players who have private conversations and he hears private conversations with coaches and players and then on top of that you have a guy yesterday go out and say that thing about jayen here’s a guy on the sidelines Sidelines that hears private conversations between coaches and players do you trust that guy if you’re the Eagles who goes on a 50,000 watt station and barking that they’re going to Carson Wentz the quarterback you’re sitting there listening to AJ talk to him maybe there’s a maybe there’s an in-game conversation that nobody would understand only players would hey get the [ __ ] ball to me and you would take that as an argument when it’s really not do you trust that to be able to have a guy go on the air and go there’s Discord in the locker room with the coach in the or the quarterback in the organization without it being told to you see here’s my question on this because you’re making good points what’s the end game here the end game is to put Jaylen either on the rails or move off them yeah but why what does that get us what that doesn’t get us anything this Oran get you firing Doug got I mean it lost you a Super Bowl firing Doug I still don’t see the end game here other than them trying to yeah right I mean that’s that’s the only explanation I would guess at this point I mean it’s I was hard on Jaylen yesterday I don’t know if this is Jaylen I don’t know if this I no no I think jayen what what Angelo said yesterday is true see look at this from Prince this is this is this is cash right here that’s a cash comment that sounds like Howie I will Carson W you I’m hoe I built this remember this is a guy that had the PR department call us because you called him a glorified CPA they threatened us over that type of comment that’s a guy who’s who’s got an ego problem and that and that doesn’t want to be crossed that’s a really that’s a that’s a good comment by Prince right there this is hoe written all over itce this really does have Howie written on it hey Prince that’s right and that’s how he talks that’s how he talks hey let me tell you something guys did you hear the kid you hear did you hear Xander that’s somebody would have a small problem with a dumbass Dano this guy is a sand tablet in the beach you’re telling me you’re going to allow all this talk to go on around your organization and not have anybody step up come on let’s I want to address one more comment here but you you also asked the question earlier is there more drama since Doug I would say no remember remember before Nick Sy there’s more control then well I let me let me finish Carson Wentz there was a boatload of drama even all Sean Jeffrey there was drama there was drama drama well before even when uh Frank Reich the part of the Eagles organization there was some drama when Nick serani got hired look go back and watch that first press conference all the questions were how are you GNA fix Carson Wentz the common denominator near now with a completely new regime a new quarterback a new core of your of your roster the only common denominator is the front office there’s Nick serani is not the common denominator Jaylen Herz isn’t the common denominator that’s why someone asked his comment let me bring it up Joe whip he said guys maybe Herz is an issue behind the scenes see Joe I’ve been feeling that way for the last couple days but the more I’m thinking about this maybe the issue is he doesn’t like what’s in the building when it comes to coaching him well forget the coaches go higher maybe Jaylen doesn’t like the entire structure of this thing agreed I don’t think he does is it that Jaylen doesn’t trust Nick or is it that Jaylen doesn’t trust the input that Nick is forced to take and app to the game plan the roster and all those completely that’s the case because you know why the hiring of the coaches is what’s causing this Discord did the how about this one just in a small little sound bite that I played of Vic fangio on my Twitter page boy that was funny huh hey how about this Vic goes like this Vic just goes like this he goes hey they weren’t very good last year you know hopefully we brought in some new coaches and players and we’re a little bit better he took a direct shot at Howie because you know why he ain’t talking about schi remember what he said at his press conference hey schemes don’t make better defenses players make better defenses he told you flat out they weren’t good last year flat out just swinging a golf club they weren good well that’s on hoe that’s not on Nick he’s not hiring defensive guys or drafting defensive guys that just tells you what’s going on in the building look at this comment I I love the comment man I love them they’re hilarious Mr perz I love Howe that’s how you tell people you run the show yeah but but perz I’m cool with that too if somebody wants to flex their muscles and say hey man I’m boss this is how it runs but you got to do it in a way that works this is a team game this isn’t an ego game that I mean you got to make your quarterback your coach you got to have a whole roster and a whole team built in these are grown men man making millions of dollars it takes more than just a paycheck to get them motivated I mean there’s a lot more to this that you know goes into the leadership and all those things and how he’s not picking up if this is true now this is still just spec speculation but I don’t know I was I’m I’m almost regretting some of my Jaylen Herz comments because people have been killing me why am I so hard on Jaylen Herz I don’t know man this might not be Jaylen Herz at all remember Jaylen Herz Angela has another thing that’s good Jaylen Herz was raised by a coach yeah he’s a coach’s kid that teaches you a lot when you’re growing up and he his D is a pretty good high school coach down there he’s not like small Coach he coaches good high school teams in Texas his team is really good around the Houston area yeah exactly and and you know how Texas high school ball is that’s like nearly college ball down there 25 30,000 kids at those games absolutely every night so jaylen’s you know he might be like man this [ __ ] we’re never going to get to where we want to go with this type of setup in this in this organization but I still don’t get why he wouldn’t back Nick but like it’s almost like frustration yeah maybe because because Nick is being their lap dog for the front office Nick’s playing along jaylen’s not okay so here’s the tough part right as an Eagles fan I’m sure everybody can can feel for this I don’t know maybe look I don’t want to you know I don’t want to make maybe ho’s not the problem but flexon he he’s been saying this fire hoe how’s the problem see here’s the problem an underdog another guy’s I’m not sure if he’s in there right now but he makes a he brings up a lot of good points about Howie as well on one hand you have these things where you’re like why is hoe running the organization the way he is and then on the other hand you’re like AJ Brown’s locked up Devonte Smith’s locked up Jordan milad’s locked up Landon Dickerson’s locked up Jaylen Carter is gonna be the new court for placing Fletcher Cox Jaylen Herz is locked up they they they brought in saquon bar like Dallas goddard’s under contract you’re like it’s hard to hate him because you’re like he’s doing a good job but he’s too many job titles you know what I tell you what Chris Landry about two years ago you put him on the program and two things he said nobody would ever confuse how Roseman for a Personnel B but as a front office man he’s exceptional and he is this guy doesn’t know where to stay in his Lane he just doesn’t know where to stay in his Lane hey dude get away from the coaches on Sunday does Nick serani suck or does ores or does how I don’t know I don’t know this is the million Indie this is a million dollar question we’ve all been beating serani to a pope I don’t know if Snick I tell you what he was a damn good play caller when Philip Rivers was in Indie yeah I don’t know I mean I don’t want to look at Yale he says we’re all on acid Yale maybe you’re right man I don’t know it’s June 19th and maybe we are on assd but something’s wrong with this organization Yale do you not agree Yale come on Yale you got to you got give me one or two things I’m going to go with your June 17th deal when it’s 14 things and it’s coming from the building and not people’s mouths like mine come on man you’re getting employees and players and coaches doing it hey the handcuffs are off us now finally what [ __ ] like that I mean it’s it’s it’s guys responding on Twitter like Devonte Smith to stupid Silo what is going on see some of the players I think don’t don’t mind or don’t don’t maybe they choose to not Embraces it because he knows how to deal with it well no because he’s getting paid man yeah well oh yeah I can I can be mad at how he just gave me a second contract in two years for 32 million a year I’m good how he can do whatever he wants Devonte Smith’s like I got my extension early I got $75 million guaranteed money coming to me I’m good all these guys are Jaylen Herz I mean he might be pissed but he’s like my bag of money’s coming I mean what better way to keep a group of professional grown men making millions of dollars a year not be pissed at you you pay them pay them pay them okay [ __ ] it I’ll take it hey hey you gave me the greatest topic the last two days I never get off this [ __ ] contract they’re tied to this thing so I called the NF LPA and I go how do you get out of a Jaylen Herz contract so they gave me a little parameters on how to get out of it um now look I happen to agree with John do I think they’ll move off of him after this year if 2024 he doesn’t have a great year I’ll tell you what if he sucks worse than he did in 23 okay they would move Heaven and Earth to get off his ass yeah I don’t think they’re going to I think they want him to fall in line is what I think they want and they’re going to do everything they can if we start to see more stuff like this like I’m I’m already waiting for jaylen’s first press conference after he gets back for training camp and and like normally I don’t you know I don’t really care much about the press conferences whatever like it doesn’t M you know say whatever you guys aren’t under Earth no nobody nobody cares now I’m wondering are they gonna have Jaylen come out and walk the line for the organization make sure he gets in line or else are you going to see more reports Jaylen Hertz sucks at training camp Eagles not happy can he pick it looks good at training camp I’m curious to see how that’s going to go didn’t you find that odd that we used to get updates from ESP about jaylen’s fabulous day of one for two for 70 yards and completion and really looking guys off it was like a daily a for the day this last off season it was this quarterback did not look good wasn’t a good day hey the quarterback looks in consistent John McMullen Jeff mlan every I mean it was like it I thought I was at a White House Press Secretary thing where everything was set up to sound bad towards this and you were like whoa everyone’s falling in line with this now is that or is that a setup by the organization Jeffrey set I mean like I I like what Bob said because I asked John this I’m like all right if they have a problem jeffre turned into esin to deliver a message you’re the owner and gave the kid $250 million take him to dinner and talking now it’s so true even me and you me and you when we’re off the show bitching about [ __ ] SS stop texting me call me and let’s figure this out like men like like business people yeah it’s you know it’s a business and I wonder if if if Darlene come on Darlene she says fire J and her we’re saying he’s not the problem we’re pointing to the front office right now something’s up Darlene trying to figure out what it is here’s my problem what they’re doing with uh jayen Wentz you know what they’re doing with Jaylen Wentz okay so they’re changing him from 22 they don’t like his attitude the way he’s acting jayen Wentz now is just seemingly this is like another and you paid them both and now you don’t like what he’s saying you don’t like how he’s how he’s not falling in line and Carson wets was bitching about some of the Personnel I mean it just seems so exactly the same I know it’s crazy and now you’re treating jayen more like Doug oh my God see this is a problem because if this thing blows up like that era of the Eagles did I I there’s only one answer I mean you’re not going to blame a second quarterback a second group of players set of coaches on something that’s there’s one common denominator and that exactly Prince says what’s the common denominator the front office how we Roseman Jeffrey lurry that’s the Comm nominator how about this I’m going to show you something here so Trent balky was such a subversive in the uh 49er organization um he got Kaepernick off that team who the year previous got him to a Super Bowl he got Jim Harbaugh to resign players were retiring 49ers finally went wow this they fired to he hired Thomas Sula then he even chip again up there and guess what they did they fired him you know what he’s doing now he’s a general manager lap dog for Doug down in Jacksonville because he knows how to construct contracts and that’s exactly what doug does to him he keeps him in that sandbox you’re not in Personnel Doug handles that with his Personnel people so you have some of these guys that think they can do it all yeah and know how to do it all and they can’t here the problem again dude anybody who has control of the roster in his eyes has control of the team you see he cutting a good deal for the players is not good enough for him he’s got to have control of the roster when you have control of the roster you have control of the coaches I think it’s even I think it’s even deeper than that I mean why is Nick not he Nick looks like he walks on eggshells constantly and then he and then he goes out there and says all sorts of different things contradicts himself in different press I mean he comes out and said to meshing of the offenses then he comes out and says oh I’m viewing the offense from 30,000 feet like he what he hears from Jeffrey he hears that from Jeffrey you know what I don’t think this guy’s lying anymore because I’m gonna tell you why you know what I think he is which guy which guy Nick I think he hears exactly what they’re telling him and their mentality and ideology and how they want this organization to be run because the only way Xander that you kept your job you fired If you hired to side and you fired to side then you made the move all of that [ __ ] is fireable offenes for making an employ dude you were 10 and two you were in first place in the NFC to have HomeField you destroyed an entire season okay how do you keep your job dude I saw Marty Schottenheimer 14 and two far because he [ __ ] the season up in postseason these coaches are expendable and they feel this if I could fire Doug I don’t care how many wins how many Super Bowls that guy’s been to I’m gonna fire that guy they look at him they can’t look at him like they look at Doug there’s no way you look at Nick serani and go that’s a Super Bowl coach hey you got there because we put you there Nick looks at it like okay Doug looked at it like you in a Super Bowl because I got you there they don’t want to hear that it’s true true it goes back to remember when Doug won the Super Bowl they didn’t they didn’t believe that was Doug winning the Super Bowl they thought it was them and the genius of the front office that won the Super Bowl the guy that went with with a backup quarterback and beats the greatest coach quarterback duo in the history of the sport in in the biggest game substitute teacher with a substitute teacher wins the game and they didn’t think he was the reason they won it or at least part of it or and his coaching and his coaching STA and the more the more we see the more we see that this stuff come out I think the I think the worse it looks for them and that potentially is why they’re protecting Nick serani so much or they’re they’re forcing him to the front so that they have their easy scapegoat if this goes to [ __ ] well I’ll tell you something uh I I think really that Jacob Sports and most notably our show along with Angelo I think we’ve exposed these people and get this you know what’s crazy you’re exposing a winning franchise which is that’s the thing it goes back to what I said earlier about on one hand you wonder what how he’s doing behind the scenes and if he’s too involved in too much on the other hand you look at the roster and you’re like man we’re we’re freaking stacked I can’t be mad at the guy it’s the same thing right we compete every year we’re in the in the race every year it keeps you coming back for more it keeps you on the on the rails right that’s it’s almost like we’re sucked we’re stuck we’re stuck here you know I don’t I don’t know where to go I mean I it’s hard criticize him too much like I said we got the we got one of the best rosters in the league that’s hoe Roseman that’s a good thing for hoe Roseman how can ize all the other [ __ ] it’s tough I want to show you something here so I called the NFL PA up on herz’s contract and if Herz was say they wanted to trade him prior to this year after June 1 he’s only been paid 24.3 million bucks so far and that’s not going to happen okay it’s just not here’s the two things that have to have to happen he’s got to wave his no trade cost he’s got to wave that if it’s going to be and what Howie has to do is find a dance partner now get this the contract for 25 is fully guaranteed it’s got um option bonuses of $41 million bonus a bon and his base is 1.17 that’s why can’t they can’t hide behind this one hold on here next three years they’ll pay $133 million at around 44.3 three per year he would have to wave his contract and have someone pick that number up to 133 over the next three years for them to be able to move him now I want to show you something else here Russell Wilson the Denver uh the uh Denver Broncos are paying him 44 million bucks this year and you know how much Steelers are paying him 1.3 to play in Pittsburgh he’s going to make 46 million bucks this year and the Broncos are paying a guy to play in the AFC half of a hundred million do just to get the [ __ ] out of Denver okay you can defers some of the money out too but that lingers on your cap the cap is going to continue to go up how he had there’s no way a guy puts a deal like um jaylen’s deal together without an off-ramp built in somewhere in there he he’s not GNA give himself oh he’s not gonna one thing his contracts are very great at he never pigeon holes himself into anything and they showed us in that went steal they ate $38 million when they moved his ass to Indianapolis they’ll eat some dough and maybe Xander that’s why you’re saving up in that cap space with 30 million yeah why do you have 30 million in I don’t see this I asked earlier what do you have 30 million in c space for yeah but how do you get around this as a front office around pick the money up no no no I’m talking about perception oh the eag and and and as you know the Eagles care about perception the winning no because if they trade Jaylen Herz that means it didn’t go well I don’t think I don’t think Jaylen Herz is getting dealt no matter what happens I you’re gonna you’re gonna hang on to that guy they’re setting Nick serani to up to be the scapegoat if things go wrong and it’s an easier scapegoat than the quarterback here is the biggest problem that I have with how and where they are right now as a franchise like you said there’s no excuses bro if you don’t get close to an NFC title game or win it or get to a Super Bowl no matter how much money you spent John McMullen said it today I didn’t think jayen played that poorly I thought he was okay well guess what ‘s not going to beat Andy and momes you’re not going to hey the all the money you spend think about that you could spend all the 49ers all the money you spend isn’t good enough what do you do go back into the game again the next year with Jaylen Herz knowing full well you don’t have the guy that can get you across the Finish Line yeah but why do you think that I don’t why do you think the same personel year ago going had a lesser of a year Bo why do I think that because they’re not coaching him like they did in 22 well that’s a fair point because if you had him playing like 22 and 23 I say you were in the Super Bowl this year listen I because and that’s a good point but I under because I understand some of the criticisms that people have of Jaylen Herz but I’m not g to deny my eyeballs I watched Jaylen Herz lead our team to a Super Bowl in 22 I watched him play a tremendous football game with one mistake in that game one mistake you not agree that’s the best game he’s played in the last 1820 games it is but my point is I have seen him do it I’ve seen him do it versus The Pinnacle of the league so I’m not gonna sit here and say he can’t take us there now if he’s not coached properly then yeah you’re right I mean if he if they don’t make him that player or at least put him in a position to be that player then yeah you’re right I mean there is probably going to be limitations on that but I’m not going to say I don’t think I don’t think we can win with Herz I think we can win with Jaylen Herz I don’t think Jaylen Herz can win in Philly being coached the way he is let’s see what they do with kellmore are you really confident that they’re not GNA go they’re not gonna get Jaylen back into a system that works for him uh no really how come yeah I’m curious see why okay because Kell’s never coached that way in that style of play and if you’re telling me neither did Chan Psy okay well wait a minute he’s gonna create a brand new offense that he’s never coordinated or called a play for in his entire offensive ocing in his entire seven years as an OC in the league it’s a brand new style it’s a brand new offense and he’s never play called it before unless you’re gonna give me the Dak Prescott offense he’s called that offense he was successful in that I think I think uh you know I you think they’re gonna play 22 ball I do not I’m not saying I think they’re gonna play 22 ball I think that kellen’s going to have an open mind and evolution and how to figure how to call a game plan for Jaylen Herz if he does forget the team forget the front off is gonna look like [ __ ] if he can’t make this work if he gets fired three years in a row he’s gonna look like [ __ ] he’s gotta make you think that off front office wants a running attack offense no they don’t 22 of you were a running T running you were a running attack offense well yeah but there was good there was good in that too though okay there was good passing there was there was passing in that I mean Eagles 2 was efficient passing right what we didn’t we didn’t you know we went we didn’t torch we didn’t torch teams through the air all year but we did have we ran them over time of possession field position third and short winning first down yeah Herz through for 3700 yards 22 touchdown six interceptions I mean he had a pretty good year to be honest low market value when quarterbacks that you’re paying 50 million bucks for too but you ran people over you’re not a passing offense you think you are I’m not ready to say that Kell Moore is going to die for this Eagles front office and do what they want he needs to he needs to have success for himself and his career more than the eagles need to have success that means he’s gonna have to make a good team around the quarterback that he has SH now here’s where I think we are underestimating as as a fan base me included I think it’s gonna take a little bit to get this thing going I think it’s going to take six to eight games maybe more to really for him Kell to really stand and Jaylen to learn each other’s style to figure out how to communicate to figure out how to call plays for each other to figure out how to do those things it took Shane Sten a little bit but he got it on the rails pretty quick and to your point he never called an offense for a Jaylen Herz style of quarterback no he called he called the year previous he called Philip Rivers exactly so this could jump over so if you’re a good offensive mind like I believe Shane Sten is like I believe Kell Moore is despite the commentary on Kell Moore I believe he is a smart offensive minded play offensive minded coach I think he did a great job with Dak Prescott I thought he was a little underwhelming last year with Justin Herbert to be to be honest I didn’t think what he did there was great I thought he had a great quarterback there a lot of good players now they were riddled with injuries there was a lot of stuff that went on there but I think I gotta give him the benefit of the doubt I think he’s going to make an offense for this quarterback now they’re going to add some things like I said I think they’re going to force Jaylen Herz to do more to throw the ball over the middle to find to become a more well-rounded quarterback but I’m not ready to say that they’re not gonna that’re they’re gonna coach him like they did in 23 23 was a catastrophic failure 22 was a was a was a great success you can’t afford six to eight games though to learn you can’t Cal this this is that’s a good point I mean the Dilemma been saying TZ there he is in the chat he’s been saying this team should rip all band off this year put the Young Guns in and let’s get ready for for a hell of a year in 2025 where we go for the Super Bowl I don’t want to go there because that just dismisses a 24 season and we’re in June like I think we have a chance to compete this year but with the new cordinators I think it might take a little bit of time to get this thing rolling now it took it took the Chiefs a little bit to get to get going last year right I mean they were they were struggling so if they get about 10 games I mean look last year we blew our load early man we were freaking the best team in the league in September and October I don’t care about September and October I’d rather be the best team in the league in November and December going into the playoffs and if it takes them a little bit and they can turn it on I think we can compete next year here’s Swanky here last year we had the gauntlet we went through KC Dallas Buffalo and then played the ners after they had a 10 days rest off puts up 30 points defense sucked um yeah well Vic said the defense sucked well this is yeah I mean I don’t want to reh I don’t want to continue but I mean just look at that right we beat Kansas City Dallas and buffalo a gauntlet and then they that Miami and before that Miami and then they get rid of Shawn Desa and all and all and everything goes to [ __ ] you can’t beat ners blow you off blow you off the page which is just embarrassing for every Eagle fan that was brutal to watch brutal game to watch way do you know who the offensive coordinator for Dak Prescott at Mississippi state was no who was it Brian Johnson no way yeah I thought he was at UF did he start at Mississippi State they help recruit him for it well Dan Mullen was the head coach at Mississippi State before he got the job at Florida oh and then he brought Brian Johnson over to Florida oh I didn’t even realize that hm I don’t know I don’t think I think I got I got you know I’m I’m a little surprised that you think that Kell Moore is gonna I I’m how about this I like Kellen I do I I think Kellen did some good things with Dak and expanded his game okay are you going to what but Jaylen doesn’t he’s not the passer Dak is he’ll never be if you are trying to do something with that and trying to make him look a little like I don’t want him to look like Dak of 22 not a better version of 23 with more passing attempts dude you have two wide receivers that gained a thousand yards in the last two years and you have a quarterback who’s kind of below the NFL standard today even Baker Mayfield throws for more yards he’s already prw and that doesn’t matter that’s the point that’s my point why are they so concerned with that yeah I guess I guess they’re just in love with the keep them at 435 attempts don’t put them at 45 or 556 you create more turn they created more turnovers because more passing attempts instead of doing what they did a year ago I think they’re really afraid of the injury and that Carson Wentz thing in Los Angeles him losing those two games in 22 I think they’re concerned with all that and they want him around for a while that’s stupid though you paid the guy he brought you to the Super Bowl based on what he did maximize it take it you have Jaylen Herz a Dynamic Athlete a dynamic player by every metric who has shown that throughout his career the minute you take him out of what he does best he struggles turns the ball over doesn’t look comfortable pans out to the right doesn’t do the right things it’s very obvious what they need to do do you know the two games that he’s played the greatest in the South Eastern Conference Championship game when he went in for Tua and the Super Bowl what does that tell you about the kid those are the electric games and moments you need your guy to play well well [ __ ] coach him like the way he played in those games I think that’s the biggest disconnect with with her and the staff I think Jaylen is a serious dude like he likes Grizzly coaches he wants to be told no that’s not how you do that he wants to I wish he had a Vic vanio as his coach like somebody like that he wants and I don’t think there there’s not that many that like Nick Sabin well yeah but did he liked Nick I mean I think he likes Nick Sabin I thought you know that’s why I thought he gave him the respect to stay there the year on the bench so I do think he liked Nick Sabin you know and then he went to an offensive air rid attack to probably prepare for the NFL that was probably more of a business decision than it was a coaching decision well no you know what it was the reason they went to Tua and they got away from him because they got away from the old style Alabama run the ball three yards in a cloud of dust what they were doing with Tua was they were creating more opportunity for receivers and running backs to to want to come and play at Alabama because look when you’re a kid in the country and I see a quarterback that’s running like this mil’s kid or whatever it is milro he’s not going anywhere in the NFL but you know what he does do he kind of hurts them a little bit because when you look at the wide receivers that have gone through Alabama over the last couple years Alabama known for wide receivers since when the last six seven years there’s some Julio cvin Ridley was really good in college jul wide receiver in the last prior to Nick getting there can you name me a wide receiver from Alabama that was worth the [ __ ] not not not Azie Nome he was a tight end can you name me an Alabama wide receiver history who rap Perkins yeah no and even before that you remember when Blake Sims and Jake Coker were the quarterbacks in Alabama I mean they yeah they didn’t have that type of offense he was doing had to get the recruits to want to come in all those wide receivers and running backs and offensive linemen to want to play at Bama that’s why he did it all right Xander where are we in the lik list brother let me see if I pull it up hey by the way folks tomorrow we may be on earlier Xander we might want to tell the folks that right yeah definitely tell them that so tomorrow I you know I hopefully my cousin’s not listening I have a my cousin’s getting married um on the middle of a Thursday which is just very unfortunate I mean just a very unfortunate time uh for me to have to deal with this and I’m like in the wedding and stuff so big sales is going to have an early show 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they don’t want me talking to you guys this way they just don’t want me talking to you like this okay they don’t and listen I get it I do thank you Mr Perez I appreciate that hey man I don’t care what time it is ever I have a passion for talking and I have a certain skill set for it and I’ve been doing it for almost 40 years are a ceilings holding your dog oygen oh the agreements segment 2.0 is here ladies no this is going to be more about celebrating a man like Marl Reese you really want me to go knee deep into Marl ree or don’t you want to celebrate a man’s Journey on being the voice of the Eagles now going into the Pro Football Hall of Fame that’s like asking jayen Carter how come you’re not with more contrite when it comes to what happened in Georgia not cool you know I saw this and we had Merl on I love meril Reese’s comments too when I tried to get him on the other day he goes listen here I can’t miss a golf shot here can’t do it now okay I can’t miss this golf shot Dan so I can’t miss any holes I don’t want any okay it’s not gonna happen here this is a tournament that matters too so I can’t miss any golf shots so I absolutely love that when he said that but last week Mar was and the great Folks at the Pro Football Hall of Fame who I’m very close to my uncle’s in the Pro Football Hall of Fame obviously some of my dearest friends are in the Pro foot I’ve been there I’ve got a lifetime pass because of being a former player to go to the Hall of Fame and they got a section in there for the Rosel award it’s some of the greatest broadcasters of all time if John Facenda is in it um you have Harry Callas you have some of the greatest voices in the history of Philadelphia Sports think about what I’m saying to you haric Callas and John Facenda I mean and then you see something in your phone and you’re like this Canton Ohio and this is Merill I’m just assuming this is Canton oh Canton Ohio must be a life insurance company he picks it up and it’s the Pro Football Hall of Fame and it’s John and the guys let’s bring in the legendary voice I hopefully I portrayed that right Merl Ree Hopey I portrayed that right and how it you did with with one exception with one exception uh Harry Callis was not in the Pro Football Hall of Fame he is in the Baseball Hall of Fame see baseball’s version of the Pete Rosel award is I believe it’s called the Ford Frick award it is and that’s what Harry is in how about all those men were they actively working still when you got into the business uh wasn’t fenda still doing NFL film he yes of course yes John fenda was yes and um boy I I would imagine John Madden was coaching yeah John Madden was and yeah what’s right John Madden was coaching back in because John quit in like 81 something around there then he got into CBS and he went into broadcasting but for you coming up during that era where Harry Callis is talking Phillies baseball fendo who was a I think was a sports caster no he was he was he was a news anchor you know he would he would finish every newscast by saying do have a nice night tonight and a pleasant day tomorrow that that was John he was he was on channel 10 in Philadelphia for many many years my grandmother loved him what does it feel to be in that room and in group now that you’re being honored with such a prestigious award because the Roselle award is a prestigious award and Merl I know you’re a humble man but you’re in a conversation with those men I don’t know I I am humbled by it I was shocked and I am humbled by it I was went you know the funny thing Dan was in 2016 Jeffrey Lorry called me and told me that I was selected for the Eagles Hall of Fame and I was I was happy I was thrilled my reaction was one of joy and it it was I I mean I guess I kind of figured that after broadcasting the Eagles for so many years that eventually I would sneak in there but this is something I never considered it was not on my bucket list it was unattainable it was out of my mind I never thought about it and when Jim Porter called me from the Hall of Fame I was driving out the golf for a change I was I was driving and all of a sudden he told me called me and I see I see on the screen campon Ohio and I’m thinking who do I know in campon Ohio and I I I answered the phone and he said congratulations and and you have won the Pete Rosel award and you’re into the whole F all I could do was cry I mean I was I was so emotional I could not believe it and then he told me we’re going to release it tomorrow at 11 o’clock so please we don’t want it on social media we do not want anyone to know until 11: you can only tell your wife so I called my wife and and again she answered the phone and I am emotional I’m crying she thought I was in a car accident and I’m finally yelling no Hall of Fame you know so it’s it was crazy what who was the first person you thought of when you realized what the call was and you got the opportunity now to have yourself enshrined in Canton what who was the first person you thought of who was the P first person I thought of I I I mean other than my my wife and my son and my daughter they were the first they were the first people I thought of that that they were going to be proud of their hopefully we’re able to connect here again here because this is great stuff here man I mean you know you’re you’re enshrined in Canton and I got to tell you Merl I’m so thrilled for you because it’s such a hallowed place my my my family we have family members in that and I I I wanted to get moments from you what was the greatest Eagle moment for you as a broadcaster oh that’s easy that that one I can answer quite easily that was February 4th 20 2018 or 2018 after the Eagles won the Super Bowl that that moment when they won that Super Bowl oh my goodness oh I mean that was it I mean for years I Paul Dom the inquir uh the week before the Super Bowl did a whole interview and he said to me will you write down a couple of lines because it’s going to last forever of if the Eagles win what you will say and I said no I said if it happens it’s going to come from my heart and the the Genesis of it really is for years Angelo CI would have me as a guest on the morning show from time to time and he’d say I want the Eagles to win the Super Bowl for you for all you’ve gone through for all these years and I said to him and I was not being disingenuous I said Angelo I’ve had Miracles the Meadowlands I’ve had great things to describe I said I want it for the fans because these fans come out there in any kind of weather these fans some of whom get second mortgages so they can buy season tickets they spend their last minutes their their last dollar around the holidays to get their kids Eagles jersey and memorabilia I want it for them so when it occurred first of all Dan I was scared to death and the reason I was scared to death was not because I thought Tom Brady was going to complete a Hail Mary to win the game because I I think Aaron Rogers has that kind of arm I never thought Tom Brady had that kind of Hail Mary ability mean not that he wasn’t the goat but of course in pure arm strength but I was nervous because you know the newer the stadium the newer the stadium the worse our seats are because now those seats are super boxes and whatever so at US Bank Stadium we were seed seated in the exact opposite corner of the end zone so that play was going to culminate 110 yards away from where we were seated and you know that we can’t use monitors for something like that anymore because it’s thanks to Janet Jackson everything’s on the so so Brady goes back and he starts to stumble forward and as he lets go of the ball inexplicably everything slows down I’m looking at it like it’s one of these NFL films in slow motion and I see it come down and I see it knocked around and it hits the ground and I look up at the clock and all I can say is it’s incomplete the game is over Philadelphia Eagles are Super Bowl champions and then I said Eagles fans everywhere this is for you let the celebration begin so that was the crowning moment absolutely man I mean it’s an iconic moment in a city known for passionate sports fans and you mention and I’ll take the Super Bowl out of this with one of the most distinctive moments because I heard it the other day when I heard that you were inducted or going to be inducted with the honor I went back and I listened to some of your calls and I went back into the miracle in the metal lands funny my uncle was the general manager at the time of the Giants when that whole thing went down and I heard your voice of all the games you called and all the moments that you called would you say that that moment was the most improbable moment that you had in any of your broadcasting was when something was so and verile being the guy too who always always preached never give up never Never Surrender and there it was never surrender and Herman picks it up takes it in pisaric drops the ball goes in I think zanka ran into somebody and there you were you you it was like you couldn’t believe it was that the most dramatic moment in your broadcasting career it I would I would rank that number two that was November 19th 1978 I would rank that number too because what that that game was over and and all of a sudden that occurred over crazy but number one Because the actual play was more Dynamic was December 19th 2010 and that was at The Meadowlands and that was where the Eagles were so bad in the first half that I said it halftime the score is the Giants 23 the Eagles are still back at the hotel and then Michael Vic put together the greatest 30 minutes of quarterbacking I ever saw to bring them back from the dead a touchdown pass to Brent celik an onsides kick by David akres recovered by Riley Cooper a touchdown pass to Jeremy Macklin a quarterback draw by Michael Vic and suddenly it’s even and the Eagles who couldn’t stop anybody stopped the Giants that time stopped the Elion company and the Giants had the punt and Mike Quick said there is no way they are putting this ball to Deshawn Jackson with three seconds on the clock and inexplicably Matt Dodger’s punt came down and Deshawn muffed it and then he picked it up and then the Red Sea parted and somewhere downfield Jason nant leveled somebody with a block and Des Shawn just kept running and running and running and then he stops at the one yard line and Pi wets and does a dance and I’m saying just I don’t care what he does just get into the end zone and he did that was the most incredible comeback I have ever seen the players that you’ve covered was there one player that you enjoyed covering more so and I know you have great affiliations and respect for everyone that you’ve ever covered but was there one guy that every time you stepped on the field something maybe brought a great call out of you maybe it was just the way the fans acted towards him was there one guy that you enjoyed talking about Mor on the air than anyone else yes the the most well not saying he was the best player I’ve ever been with wa no but the most exciting player in my hundred years Randall C you wow you just never knew it was going to happen I mean he he got off a 91 yard punt he he jumped over people there’s a picture of my office Randall hurdling the entire Giants defensive line you never knew whether he was I don’t think he knew what he was going to do next Randle Cunningham he was he was instant excitement but there were other brilliant performers like Brian Westbrook and shady mcco I mean the great running backs wber Montgomery those guys the great wide receivers Harold Carmichael and Mike Quick and Des Shawn and and the two they have right now Devonte Smith and AJ Brown I mean that they were amazing I mean there have been great players at every position now if your next question is going to be and I’m reading your mind yes of all the players you’ve covered as an eagle in my tenure who was the greatest Eagle of all time or or from 1977 to today that would be Reggie White that would be Reggie White he was he was right there with the best who ever played defense and number two would be Brian Dawkins those two wow but Reggie number one Reggie was the best best defensive end I ever saw the first year he came into the league coming from the usfl I think he had like nine games 12 games and he had 21 sacks yeah it was it was like he was getting two three sacks a game and it looked like he was so far Advanced from everybody and I was I started I was in college at the time at Miami and then obviously when I got in Jerome and I would watch him and he came from the Memphis showboats I believe yes and he got and he got to Philadelphia when they had the supplemental draft for and we could not he didn’t wear I don’t think he wore his traditional numbers first year I think it was 91 the first year and then he became 91 then he went to 92 the second year correct but the fun thing is I there was only one other player I used to say this about that how he would give offensive coordinators nightmares all week that you never know where he was coming from but you knew he was coming and that was the Giants great Lawrence Taylor and I felt the same way about Reggie they moved him around you never knew what he was going to do next he totally dominated a game coaches you’ve had a very colorful list of guys to have a post and pregame and maybe even an in-game conversation with so you get verm who Randy cross tells me one of the most intense people you’ve ever seen don’t let the California guy fool you because he was a very fiery guy he didn’t believe in taking time off but he was also a really emotional guy and if you knew anything about Dick verile you understood it came from a place of love then you had of course you had um you had Ray rhods you also had um buddy Andy buddy I mean of all these coaches who did you enjoy and who did you have more fun with interviewing the most in your time since 77 as a coach for the Eagles my favorite is Dick uh because in the dictionary if you go to see under the word Charisma there’s a picture of Dick ver I never saw anybody who who communic with his team the way dick F did but there have been so many I I had a lot of fun with buddy I you know buddy was controversial I love buddy you never knew what he was going to say next but he was great to me and he took me into his confidence and he said things that I would never repeat on the air because it would get him fired sooner than he eventually was in fact in fact when he was fired after a loss to uh the Washington team uh and he called his own press conference that Monday morning and as we all came into his his den he turned around and he said well it’s the first time anyone’s ever been fired for winning and then later he bought a racehorse and he named it fired for winning buddy was Buddy was the most remarkable he was funny he was he was great and I loved Ry Ry was Ry was a a laugh a minute if you got to know him he was he was terrific he he was the he was great Ray was I loved Ray and then I mean I Andy was a terrific coach Andy’s Hall of Fame bound you know that oh yeah and a wonderful person I I love Andy and Doug love Doug Doug Doug was Doug was terrific nobody realized that Doug would be the kind of coach that he was but he he was a terrific person he he gave me the the most inside look at the game that any coach did because I knew him for 19 years by the time he became the Eagles coach I knew him when he was brought in here as the sacrificial lamb until Donovan McNab was ready to play and he’d go out there and get beaten up every week so I knew Doug really well and Doug shared things with me Doug could I could go into Doug’s office and he’d tell me the gadget plays they were going to use that week he draw them up for me and then I look like a genius when I could describe them and see them coming but he was he was a he was he was a great friend is a great friend I can pick up the phone when we get off the air and call Doug and and have a great chat with him he’s he’s he’s a wonderful wonderful person couple last questions for you Merill Merill you know for me as a broadcaster I’ve been doing this now for about 36 years I’ve been on the air and I’ve been on I was on the radio for 32 and I’ll say this to you that I had more fun when I didn’t know what I was doing when I was younger and I was going through and I was learning and I was learning the business and I was learning my mistakes and it just seemed that the journey was a little bit now um it you know I’m I found out the more I’m more like me the more I resonate with folks back then I was still trying to find when you were younger in your broadcasting career and you were getting your feet wet in 77 78 in that time do you how do you look at your earlier time as a broadcaster compared to now did you enjoy it at the beginning do you enjoy it more now Dan this I mean aside from dreaming about being a quarterback when I was 10 on once I realized that 5’8 was it um but but once I realized this is my dream job and I have loved play byplay and I have loved football forever so I did enjoy it from the very beginning and I enjoy it as much now I love I love every single second of it however when you’re talking about the difference in those early years I was careful in the sense that I would not be overly critical because I did not want to be the former voice of the Eagles and I know the realities of what you can say and what you cannot say and even to this day oh yes I’m not going to take anybody apart or call for anybody’s job or say anything unkind however when the Eagles played the Giants in the last game of the regular season last year I heard it I said this is not this is not a good football team and I did not I did not believe for a second that they were going to beat Tampa Bay in the playoffs on that Monday night because they had lost it they couldn’t find it they had weeks of opportunities to turn it around and they couldn’t so I’m honest I feel that my longevity in that booth has given me a feeling of credibility so people know I love the Eagles as much as they do I’m not there to to hurt the team or belittle anybody but I have great respect for Eagles fans and I feel an obligation to be honest with them at all times don’t you agree merold that for you if you were to give advice to a young aspiring play-by-play guy it would be what you just said is to build the cred the equity with the fans up first before you can start being and expanding what you and how you see like you said because when I heard you I was driving back from my daughter’s college and I had you on Sirius XM and I just went like this he never talks like that on my program and I go but he’s like this is not Eagle football you were you and Mike were both going back and forth and you it was really like I couldn’t believe and I was like Wow and but to me it’s about building Equity up with the fans and with the organization with the community when you say that that would be some advice that you give build your Equity up before you start going in slashing and burning and also remember that that you are not not a fan there two things you have you will never hear come out of my mouth and I have never said it from the very beginning I have never said we I have never said us I talk about the Eagles now it does my voice reflect the tenor of the game and what is happening of course at the same time I feel as if I’m a journalist angling the game to an Eagles fan in other words they want to know why the Eagles are beating the J or why the Eagles are trailing the Cowboys not vice versa you’re not part of the team you may feel it inside you may love them you may want them to win but you are calling the game with as objectively as you possibly can finally who was your first color analyst that worked with you in the booth well when I took over with two games to go in the 77 season after Charlie Swift suddenly died um Dean Tyler the program director at wi left it up to me he said Merl go get a color analyst for the last two games and I said okay and I called a a native Philadelphian who I knew who I had met uh at the station and who was one of my favorite players and one of my favorite people and in the Hall of Fame the great herb adway oh my god did the first two games with me no way yes yes number 26 Green Bay Packers but Philadelphia’s Northeast High School and Michigan State so I did those first two games with her now I didn’t know if I would get the game because after the season I didn’t find out until the following March that I was it so I mean I I I never knew but but herb herb was my color man then the following season after I got the games after I got the games and was named the play byplay voice of the Eagles and sports director of WIP herb couldn’t do them anyhow because he had then in the off season joined Wayne Harden’s Temple coaching staff so we had auditions and the person who got the car job for a couple of seasons was a Philadelphia writer journalist by the name of Jim barniak and when Jim left after for a couple of Seasons Bill Bergie was in the booth and after Bill Bergie for a couple of Seasons came the character of all characters Stan walers the Eagles all prole tackle and Stan was a riot you never knew what Stan was going to say we’re doing a game against the Cowboys and Stan is looking at he’s getting angry because there were so many marginal calls and everything went against the Eagles and Stan walers Stan walers says Tech sham has these officials in his pocket he’s a member of the competition committee he has them in his pocket and the writer’s Booth is right next to us and all of a sudden we hear a pounding on the window and we look into the glass and tex Ram is standing there showing that there’s nothing in pockets and and he was scheduled to be Stan’s halftime guest and he didn’t show didn’t show up and but what’s more they took Stan off the Cowboys mailing list and Stan said good I don’t want to be on it holy cow I learned so much right there are you trying to tell me Marl Reese is the guy who handed off the PD job to Bill Bigby are are you the guy that handed that off to him what to to Bill no Bill I said Bill Bergie oh no no no who wasn’t there a guy by the name of Big B that was the pro Tom Bigby Tom Big B yeah did you hand the PD job off to him hand it off no I wasn’t ever the PD I wasn’t in position okay anybody’s job Tom he was the only he hated me I hated that guy you know why hated me and I he I don’t like you know he passed away I know I got it but but you know why he hated me he hated me because he wanted me to get into the booth each week and get into an argument with Sam Waters and become controversial and go back and forth like the morning show does on a talk station I wouldn’t do it I wouldn’t do it and and he he he really wanted to get rid of me but the the company wouldn’t let him but I tell you what so I got I got an opportunity to go to he said I don’t care if you believe it or not you say something to start an argument in that Booth I said I am sorry I will not do that well then so he he wanted me out but he he didn’t he he was program director he wasn’t the he wasn’t the company president who said don’t you dare leave him alone and um years later he apologized to me believe it or not but you know in in fact Angelo Cal he haded in his contract that Tom Bigby wasn’t allowed to talk to him he told us he comes on once a week here on our show and he told us that because I said I go look Tom Bigby um was trying to get me to go and he wanted me with some sort of light in the in the booth where get this a lot of people don’t know this that he didn’t like callers on past a minute or some [ __ ] and I was like I’m not doing that if it’s good content I’m he goes well then you know Andy blo was trying to hire me then he ended up getting getting fired but he had I went up to Philly three times and I told Angelo I go Angelo I was supposed to follow you um like back when Bigby was there when my first got started in it and he goes it was over the light bulb he goes you know I had something on my contract that that guy could never talk to me yeah he did he did now unfortunately he could talk to me but I didn’t have to listen well Merl we been listening for all these years and congratulations to you and your family it’s a tremendous honor to be enshrined in that building there’s so few that are in that building it personifies everything that I love about pro football and the people the voices of it the men that played it to just to be a part of it like that has to be a thrill for everyone including your family so congratulations thank you thank you Dan I appreciate it and I always enjoy coming on with you thank you so much my friend I appreciate it God bless Merill thank you bye-bye you got it that is the great Merill Reese the voice of the Philadelphia Eagles now 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the last time I asked for it today at least because I’m going to tell you story don’t forget tomorrow 10 o’clock we’re going to be on little programming change because of some scheduling issues so we’re going to do tomorrow at 10 o’clock we’re at 193 we need seven more guys we talked to a legend by the name of Dan Silo 5 days a week Senor that’s great thank you I’m G to talk to you about a man that I met in 1998 or wait yeah no 95 and I got a job in San Francisco I had come up from Vegas and I got a job first off at kg radio I was on news talk I was doing sports updates on k810 number one radio station with Mickey luck off and Kent Barry and them guys I think it was a Cumulus station and all of a sudden Bob agnu calls me hey what are you doing over there come over here to KBR it’s the voice of the San Francisco Giants and we have the Golden State Warriors want you come over here you may never be a Sports Talk coach but you could be an update guy love to have you I said well I wasn’t sure I wanted to leave where I was because I was making more money so I go over to San I go over to KBR which is Squan station which is no longer a company I’ll never forget there was a guy who missed a shift and I got the shift and John Madden called and said this guy’s the best thing going another guy heard me his name was Willie ma wanted to have lunch with me Gary radnage introduced me he was the midday guy and I’m like Willie Mays and you got to understand in New York Willie May Snider dagio Manel those guys were Gods when I grew up they were gods when Willie Mays walked into my studio I couldn’t believe I’m breathing the same air as Willie Mays I couldn’t believe it let’s go to lunch kid I’m going to lunch I called my grandpa I’m going to lunch with Willie May he goes get out and I go yeah movy came sepa came then I started doing the broadcasting and postgame show for the Giants Dusty Baker would come on Willie would come on bonds would come on I got to go down to Candlestick guess who would meet me there Willie ma passed away at the age of 93 the maio owned San Francisco but Maize was the prince of sports in San s Francisco there’ll never be anything like him he’s the greatest ball player that’s ever lived there is no debating it the greatest five to player that ever lived is Willie May I caught him at the tail end in 73 when he got to the Mets because I was a young kid first at bad at a homer I remember watching it in W TV that’s Willie Mays here I am having lunch with him rest in peace Brother truly not just one of the greatest baseball players of all time but one of the greatest American Sports icons of all time I breathe the same air as Willie Mays a moment will never never for get being friends with that guy rest in peace guys thank you so much we got to 200 guys were Sensational I thank you Joe Xander thank you so much two to six tomorrow and we shall see you on the flip side

16 Comments

  1. Who is the weirdo LJ in the chat?? I don’t understand weirdos like that who hang out in a 3 hour livestream chat to somebody they don’t like

  2. I love the show Big sills. Sometimes you're just a ass bag but that's okay too sometimes the ugly truth gets me mad and everyone else. I listen to your show because I don't want to hear a bunch of people not being realistic. Yeah and Jalen I would not buy a Jalen hurts Jersey right now. I truly believe they might stick with him two more years. They don't have a problem coming off of somebody they don't believe in this is so obvious. Jeffrey Lori wants championships he doesn't want NFC championships he wants super bowl championships I love that about him. I don't think it's a bad idea if you think the guy you have is not going to get you there I don't believe Jalen is the guy. And it's not his fault they took what he did well and they told him he has to do something else something that he cannot do be a drop back quarterback The guy doesn't have it in him. He doesn't see the field unless he's on the move this is obvious. Like you always say I'm not making this up this is the truth. I believe and how I looked at last year wasn't so much hell he played it's his attitude. If I was around Jalen during that losing skid I would have been asking him constantly do you need a pacifier and a diaper change because he was a big baby. AJ Brown your boy was running around trying to hold the team together and trying to pull everyone out of the dump Jalen Hertz job. Jalen is the quarterback he is supposed to be the leader He's not I thought he could have been but after last year absolutely not. He's not a leader Patrick mahomes is a leader Tom Brady is a leader Peyton Manning is a leader. Jalen hurts was a big cry baby and I know people are not going to like this. But this I will say people did not like when I was saying this about Carson but they don't mind it today. So you might want to just think about Paulsen on the Jalen hurts jerseys. You had no brain big sills That's so funny I think you're a pretty smart guy dude and the thing I love most about you you're an ex-player. Thank you big guy

  3. Yeah LJ Don't go away mad just go away. Lol. This channel is for guys that can take the truth if you can't this is not your channel. They're a big sills You owe me some money I'm starting to be your PR guy. Most run from it though you're right I run towards it because I don't wear my heart on my sleeve no more with the Eagles I love them I've been a fan lived in Philadelphia for over 40 years. I bleed green but that doesn't mean I can't see somebody perpetrating a fraud

  4. The notion that the eagles would move on from Hertz if he doesn't perform well this year should be intuitively obvious my take on this is that the organization wants it out there or we would have heard a retraction by now.

  5. You are absolutely right Howard the coward would not come out with that unless it was absolutely true. Whenever the guy says something he's saying it for a reason to let us know. That was the front office telling Jalen without telling Jalen if you know what I mean. Yeah I just heard that comment everybody's talking 13 or 14 wins this year and I believe what the guy said no next year maybe. That's if we're not looking for a new quarterback people don't understand that could happen. You are absolutely right again if you allow Jalen to be himself playing his game yes it would be different but the other problem is Kellen Moore. His offense is going to confuse Jalen I guarantee you when I seen him talking about the offensive playbook he looked nervous. This is not going to be a great year for him. I don't see a super bowl with Jalen playing The game he is playing if they want back to the 2022 season the way he was playing then the way they call plays for him yet I'll be on board. And another thing answer me this big guy do you really think Nick you know his ego do you really think he's going to stay out of it I don't

  6. I just heard a comment by somebody named Bob who said that the comments come from Lori and upper management. The irony around that is that Lori and upper management are the ones that are destroying Hertz hurts 's career. They're the ones who are trying to turn him into Kenny Pickett instead of letting him do what he does best. If they weren't willing to let the kid play the way that he played when he got to the super bowl, why in the world would he spend all that money? It's hard to imagine they could be around football this long and think that they could put a square peg in a round hole

  7. Lol. I love it you can say whatever you want and I can hear it. Because you know it and I know it they would love to be able to say these things they can't their asses would be out the door. You're right they probably look around and make sure they're close enough to Howard asskin so they do get it out. And if he's saying it you better believe it. You piss me off sometimes big guy but when I get mad I look at it why am I getting mad there's something to it. The fans need guys like you to see the ugly truth I don't like a lot of things you say God sometimes if I was near you I'd probably kick you and then there's other times I would hug you. I just commented that when they want something out there they make sure Howard is in the room. They probably wait for him sometimes hold on he's not here yet we need him to get this out for us without telling him get it out. The owner and the general manager you're not going to hear that from them but they want us to know absolutely whoever said that big guy is absolutely correct. You're racist are you kidding me with liberal told you that. You better stop hurting all those feelings That's not right. 😂😂. Good big sills You need to nail Philly 500 to the wall with Jalen. Stop being nice You don't have to be we know how you feel I do because I feel the same way I did not feel that way until they started losing last year and our quarterback true colors came out he is selfish. Who was the first guy to come out and say that The Eagles were going to sign Barkley Howard eskin. Or what I like to call him asskin. Hey another thing big guy they did go out and get somebody that Howie loves in Kenny Pickens he loves that kid. He wanted that kid so bad coming out of college that he actually took him out to dinner to talk to him. That's only guy that Howie has ever done that with. I don't like that kid because of the way he left Pittsburgh he seemed like he was a quitter I don't get down with quitters we already had that kind of guy. Jalen is a quitter he was last year anyway. I think he can come back from last year but he is going to be a better person not player what I'm saying is he cannot be selfish this year. Come on dude we did not destroy Ben Simmons he did not need any help with the downfall of Ben Simmons. He did that all on his own he deserves all the flowers for that not us

  8. Hey Big sills I'll tell you why Turner got the 21 minute salute. One super bowl win. Two baseball world series wins. One NBA championship. And I don't remember but two NHL championships Stanley cups. All together I am 56 and I can remember only three championships in my over 40 years of being a Philadelphia sports fan cuz that's what I am I don't have no other teams. We are not Boston we are not New York. We don't have 26 championships in baseball we don't have six super bowl wins we don't have countless baseball trophies That's why we are so passionate about our players I don't think he should have gotten that either but that's how we are shills. You show up for us we show up for you we love our players. And when you leave you're just the enemy come in our house and get one

  9. Hey one more thing and I won't say anything else I promise Josh Allen I would trade jalen hurts. I would throw in Milton Williams and we both know how good he is that guy I'm sorry that kid is good I think he's going to be the All pro soon but that's just my opinion. And I would throw a number 2 pick in with it just to make sure we get him and if we had to absolutely had to I would throw in a future number one draft pick

  10. The Eagles have proven that they don't care who you are or what the stakes are they will move off of you if they can move off of Doug Peterson they can move off of anybody The only guy who ever bought a super bowl win to the Eagles and played as an eagle

  11. Howard asking probably gets paid by all four major Philly teams. He is a mouthpiece for all of them Phillies Eagles sixers and flyers I believe that he gets a check from all the teams

  12. Mark doesn’t seem to understand that Lamar Jackson and Trevor Lawrence were drafted a few years after Dak Prescott. Dak is a 8 year veteran with 2 playoff wins. He needs to stop comparing Dak to players that have been in the league half the time that Dak has been in the league. Most the quarterbacks that were drafted in daks draft class aren’t even starting anymore and have the same amount of playoff wins as dak or more. Jared Goff has 5 playoff wins dak has two

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