Stephen A. DEBATES which QB (besides Mahomes) is BEST to start a franchise with! | First Take

On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Ryan Clark and Mike Tannenbaum discuss which QB in the NFL (outside of Patrick Mahomes) is the best to start a franchise with.

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after Trevor Lawrence agreed to a 5year $275 million extension with the Jags earlier this offseason three other quarterbacks also looking to cash in are Dak Prescott Tu taga baloa and Jordan love all whom are entering the final year of their current deals yesterday Mike T showing a lot of love for Jordan outside of Patrick Mahomes if we the four of us were running an NFL team today there is nobody on the planet I’d rather have than Jordan love period and ascends 25 years old can make all the throws 6’4 High character High processor can make people miss the sky is the limit if he was an IPO it’d be like buying n viia three years ago he is by far to me the player that has the most sustained upside and just like that Mike Tannon bomb has joined us in studio good to see you what’s wrong with you man what’s wrong with you why you want to talk about Mel Bridges to see whether or not he play quack care be careful we going places we going places but explain yourself Mike T explain yourself Stephen A what is wrong with 25 years old impeccable character smart accurate athletic and is only going to get better if we if the four of us were running a team what don’t we like about Jordan love I don’t think it’s about what we don’t like about Jordan love it may be about what we like more about others right it’s not that Jordan love would be a bad pick after Patrick R Mahomes is that I believe that there are players who I would pick before him I would take CJ stra before I took bro and love you looking at a quarterback with a 23 and5 TD to interception ratio as a rookie he protected the ball while taking chances and pushing the ball down field and think about that organization we said before the draft that is the worst place to go they had fired two coaches after one year you just hired Deo Ryan you didn’t have offensive weapons around you and he elevated that team and one of playoff game against the Cleveland Browns and brought that team into the divisional round against Baltimore there is nothing not to like about CJ St and there’s so much upside when we’re talking about a player that’ll only be in the second year go ahead okay wait look I like CJ St taking nothing away from him but look at the way Jordan love and the Packers played coming down the stretch they went down and beat a Dallas Cowboy team they dismantled them and they stood to to Toe with the 49ers arguably maybe the best team in the NFC over the last couple years so to me with that offense can do and RC we talked about a little bit on get up like to me Jordan love doesn’t even have to play quarterback he has to play point guard they have so many good young skill players and I love strad I just think I’m going to take Jordan love because has a little bit more experience and again because he’s six’ four he’s a good athlete when we talk about Josh Allen Joe burrow Lamar Jackson like his durability to me is why he’s going to have sustained success I just want to know are you okay I I really want to know this man I really want to know this 19 first of all who didn’t know Dallas Cowboys was going to lose I mean let’s get that out the way first I’m not saying it’s not an accomplishment to beat the Dallas Cowboys but it’s not like oh my lord it’s breaking news we were waiting for that news to come we knew it Wasing hold on we knew it was coming that’s number one number two the very next playoff game they had they ended up falling right let’s look at CJ stra third quarterback in the last 50 years to lead the NFL in both passing yards per game and touchdown interception you know turnover ratio what are you talking about this brother had a 157 pass rating in his first playoff game against the number one ranked defense in the NFL which is Cleveland we saw what the man did during the regular season and by the way mik T is younger than Jordan love I mean what are you talking about you’re brought younger and cheaper you of all people as cheap as you are as cheap as you are you actually going to sit up there and say that somebody who is more expensive older and on to at all didn’t have the numbers that CJ St had or somebody ask him about this last year it was Justin Herbert you still in the family I got Ella Jacob Justin and Jordan they change it’s beon they they change and by the way Ella and Jacob they are at salary cap fredley I but here’s let’s go back to that Dallas game that was a knockout punch they went up and down the field against a really good Dallas Cowboy defense we talk about all their struggles Aaron Jones running the football helped a lot no doubt about it all right then yeah but that Houston didn’t run the ball last year Houston didn’t run the ball they didn’t run the ball that much might take with Bobby slowick Houston didn’t run the ball that’s why they went out and got Joe Mixon Houston was a about CJ Stout from start of the season to the finish of the Season you got to know how to take the L Mike I got RC with me hey CJ Stout changed an entire or CJ it’s not I I I this is not against CJ St but what I’m saying is when you look at what Jordan love did after sitting for two years and the platform he has now to me like when you look at those young skilled players when we’re talking about them in November into the playoffs they’re going to be unstoppable on offense not just this year but going forward and they got the one piece they needed Jordan Morgan the left tackle I think so down with digs it’s wide out with stri throwing the football I mean that that’s not a big deal 20 2010 hold on 2010 to 2023 43 quarterbacks were drafted 43 one of them won a playoff start as a rookie one is CJ St I mean come on my T at some point time wait who w Wait wait a second who won a playoff game as a rookie in 2009 who was that the team that you covered Mark Sanchez are you complain are you s to CJ Mr butt fumble himself really but I’m making a point like no disrespect Mark Sanchez no disrespect Mark Sanchez won four playoff games and then his career obviously didn’t turn out so all I’m saying is CJ Stout’s start is very encouraging but it’s not a guarantee that right but I think I think the difference is we’re not just speaking about the fact that CJ strad won a playoff game we’re speaking about the fact that CJ strad was the reason the Houston Texans won a playoff game he was the reason the Houston Texans had an opportunity to be in the playoffs we never at one point when we were playing against the New York Jets said oh my God you got to watch out for that Mark Sanchez no it was the Run game it was defense CJ St has elevated them to where now when you add Stefon Diggs and Joe Mixon you say to yourself what can this offense be when you go out and you get denil Hunter Deno archery you say okay now this defense has taking the next step and demo Ryan is the future coaching star I hate these conversations because it makes it sound like I don’t like Jordan love I like Jordan love I like him he should get I got love love love for love all right let’s get that out the way right what they said Stephen A loves love has an easier chance to get to the championship game consistently in the Super Bowl where the AFC is loaded oh will you stop it this is the National Football League just stop it but also Mike T we’re talking about any team right we’re not saying if you’re the Green Bay Packers and you want Jordan love and the road that they have we’re saying if you’re the GM of any of the 32 teams all the situations is the same that that’s the guy you pick and then you said Josh Joe Lamar so you’re saying that Jordan love in what was really a nine game span where he was one of the top quarterbacks in the league has proven to you beyond a shadow of a doubt that he’s better than because of a victory over the Cowboys and by the way before you give cuz we’ll give you the last word I mean the rhetoric that you’re throwing out there I mean I’m trying to recover from it the Texans went 3113 and one the season before last year biggest Improvement all right 10 and seven all right under rookie coach Deo ryons and of course CJ stra this is the stat that I love right here first team in NFL history to add a player coming off a season with 100 plus catches in digs 10,00 yard rushing Mixon 10 plus sacks Daniel Hunter you bringing up Green Bay what about Houston because let me tell you something right now I’m looking at the Kansas City Chiefs I’m gonna sit up there and give a nod to the Baltimore Ravens because I think derck Henry Houston’s next Houston’s next right but if you’re Houston consistently you have to get through Patrick Mahomes Lamar Jackson Josh and Joe burrow year and year out whereas to me the NFC path is a lot easier all right but hold on hold on hold on hold on since he wants to give them credit you know for beating the Cowboys we gota worry about the Cowboys right the Philadelphia Eagles got to sayquan Barkley right I’m sorry where were the Detroit Lines last year I believe that was n championship game right there’s still a San Francisco 49ers right there’s still a Los Angeles Ram ping the right you understand him and his cheat itself I won’t forgive him and Michael par was beating up on them women for the NBA Allstar celebrity all they were running women and children Michel the like we they you win at all cost you play to win game that’s football you’re running over women and children this is Blasphemous it’s Blasphemous it’s Blasphemous but the point is this is what’s happening I don’t understand and you’re going to have to explain we’re GNA hold on to this sound Mike T when you’re sitting up there talking about Jordan love and Green Bay and you’re just going to shove aside stoud in Houston and then going to bring up the fact that oh my goodness they got a rougher path he’s younger with better numbers okay we got to leave it there unfortunately my T so great to see you sorry that uh be continued yeah yeah yeah yeah [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music]