John Middlekauff discusses why Scottie Scheffler needs to win the British Open to be on Tiger Woods’ level of greatness. Plus, John dives into LIV Golf succeeding in major party cities such as Nashville. In other golf news, the PGA Tour created a special exemption category for Tiger Woods to play in its signature events.
0:00 // Intro
2:30 // Why Scottie needs to win the British Open to be on Tiger’s level
14:13 // Why LIV needs to keep going to party cities to see success
19:42 // PGA announces Tiger exemption, will he even play in these events?
21:29 // Mailbag – Why are golf ratings down?
28:51 // Mailbag – PGA needs more graphics in its broadcast
32:38 // Mailbag – Golf broadcasters need to connect with the fans
37:13 // Mailbag – PGA should be more strategic when making final pairings
40:57 // Mailbag – Luck plays a part in golf
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what’s up everybody Welcome to three and out YouTube page I’m John middleof and we are talking football all day every day make sure you subscribe like the video share with your friends let’s roll baby what is going on everybody John middleof goo podcast we do a lot of football here but we also talk golf the PJ Tour live everything that’s going on so make sure you subscribe to the YouTube channel you can also find it on the podcast feed uh three and out we do it on a weekly basis I I had to uh hop on the mic on Monday morning and discuss Scotty Sheffer because he’s having a historic season but I do think there’s a lot of pressure heading on him uh heading into the final major on him couple I watched I didn’t watch any of it but I saw a lot of clips and I I do think Liv depending on how long this thing is going to last with all the potential agreements about an agreement a handshake deal to have another handshake deal but for the next couple years as Liv is definitely going to be around I I do think they figured something out this weekend that they need to double down on a quick tiger story that came out last week as well as some mailbag questions from at goop pod goop pod is the Instagram so fire in those DMS anything golf wise we do the football one on my personal Instagram created a separate golf Instagram if you want to slide in and ask any questions but before we dive into golf Summer’s Here baseball games happening All Over America football is not that far away we’re about two months away from the start of college football season then a couple weeks later the NFL season if you want to go to a game I saw the Kelsey brothers were somewhere in Europe at a Taylor Swift concert well guess what my friends my partners in the official ticketing app of this podcast game time has you covered for every event so if you want to go to a concert a comedy show download the game time app it’s really easy price points sight lines I’ve been using them for a couple years cannot 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really an Apples to Apples thing it’s like when people argue on these shows about like could Jerry West have played in today’s game which is a stupid argument because there is no answer but it’s hard to even make it comparable and obviously the answer is yes in golf it is much more difficult because the equipment changes have dramatically changed over the last decade and the way the season plays out is not comparable obviously now because of Liv they’ve done all these designated premium events where it’s a small field no cut Scotty’s winning them and it’s why he’s made almost 30 million doll his caddy Ted Scott who has been like even he just said the reason we won this weekend is because Ted Scott who has won on this course and been in the mix to win on this course a lot with Bubba Watson just gave me the game plan and I just followed it he told me what to do and I just did it the game plan was his it’s like in I think 86 belich che’s game plan or might have been 90 1990 whenever the Giants I think beat the bills he had like a historic game plan uh to shut down that offense it’s in the Hall of Fame and even parcel’s like yeah he he was a schematic genius it’s obviously a little different golf like you got to hit the shots but he’s telling you what club to hit and exactly where to hit it and obviously Scotty because he’s so freaking good can do it I mean that’s that’s what makes a great player hit it there I always love anyone that’s ever played at a course with a caddy if you don’t know where you’re playing right Bandon Dunes wherever and the Caddy’s like yeah just take it over that tree it’s like well I don’t know if it’s going to go at that tree it’s like yeah hit it 260 yards like well sometimes my three would go straight but other time it ducks duck hooks to the left right anytime you’ve ever played with a caddy uh they’re always doing that like oh just wrap it around that tree it’s like bro I don’t have that shot in my back well obviously the number one player in the world who’s having one of the greatest Seasons we’ve ever seen has it and it was awesome yesterday I didn’t watch that much Thursday and Friday dabbled a little on Saturday actually didn’t I I watched the morning when cam young and I went and played golf and I watched the entire back nine on Sunday and it was really fun that that’s a fun event I know a lot of people like scores whatever like whatever it’s just an enjoyable event it usually is drama filled down the end and we got a playoff we also got a protest on the 18th green which led to one of the great scenes of cops turning into Luke Keeley Ray Lewis and Ronnie lot just lighting people up like a Christmas tree you got Scotty and she Scotty Sheffer and Tom Kim backing up watching just an incredible viral moment there’s like paint or whatever the hell they were spraying all over the place Tom Kim hits like a 10- foot birdie putt to send it into extra holes that there’s red stuff five feet away just an incredible scene also cool that it kind of went viral earlier this week they’re all Dallas guys both their birthdays this week they went to Pizza they’re really close friends and Scotty talked about it after in the press conference I do think there was tangible pressure on Scotty to win the brid open because it’s not a comparable resume to tiger in 2000 he won three of the four majors and obviously he carried it over in 2001 finishing the tiger slam with winning the Masters in 2001 but for his greatest Scotty’s playing and listen the eye test he’s [ __ ] dominating he is kicking everyone’s butt on a weekly basis minus Piner honestly could have eight wins I mean he he he missed the putt uh what was it like a couple months ago when Stephen ended up winning that easily could have gone to extra holes and I think we would have liked Scotty in extra holes but not that this season will be Hollow because he’ll probably win a playoff event maybe multiple as well as the Tour Championship he could end this year with eight or nine wins and if you win the Tour Championship this year he he might end up with $50 million on the course alone not counting whatever Nike’s paying him which I would guess 2530 million given how much TV time he’s making given how much he’s winning so he’s going to have one of the most lucrative seasons in the history of the sport not named Tiger Woods and because tiger was so long ago when you factor in inflation like how many 7080 million doll years did Tiger have clearly he was making a lot less on the course because the purses were smaller but he was making a lot off the course and I remember the most uh High highest paid athletes in like the 2000s and the early 2010s Phil was up there as well but a lot of that was sponsorship driven because the tournaments did not pay nearly what these guys are getting now now you’re getting a guy winning $50 million on the course I think he has to win the British and I I checked this morning he’s plus 450 to win it which I think would be his lowest or His Highest odds excuse me heading into one of the majors this year like just this tournament this weekend he was three to one I was tempted but I was like I don’t know after a major he had just played well maybe just cruises to like a sixth then all of a sudden on Sunday I’m kicking myself I saw poroi won like $500,000 you could never go wrong betting on this guy the problem with the British is he’s only played in the tournament three times his best finish was 20121 which was eth the last two years he’s played he hasn’t finished in the top 20 and it’s kind of a random tournament depending on your draw depending on the weather it can be freezing cold the wind can pump it can rain but if he wins this and you go at the end of the year he wins eight times and he win two majors then I have no problem discussing him as one of the greatest seasons of all time but if he doesn’t like not to take anything away from yesterday there’s 70 guys 60 guys in the tournament no one gets cut and a guy like him I mean he shot 65 64 64 65 if you just look at him and Tom Kim’s rounds over the four days it’s like are are they what’s going on here but I hope he wins it I’m rooting for him to win it I I like history I like watching great players validate things I remember in 2022 like let’s face it in a weird way Steph Curry didn’t get that much credit I don’t know for the first championship they won when Kevin Durant didn’t exist and then a lot of people just didn’t give him much credit when Kevin Durant got there but when and 2022 it’s like you can’t say anything like there is nothing to be said he’s won two literally by himself with clay and Draymond he W two more with Kevin Durant but like no one can say anything look at Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum everyone’s like are these guys Champion should you break them up like they won it and the moment you win it it shuts everybody up no one can say [ __ ] you can make fun of Joe Flac all you want he goes remember when I beat the 49ers in the Super Bowl obviously Eli got the second but the moment he won that first one against The Undefeated New England Patriots conversation’s kind of over obviously where he’s going to rank all time Legacy all that stuff I’m a champion bro it’s it’s a wrap it’s why the Rory conversation is so fascinating because like listen it sucks for him he’s gone 10 straight years without winning a major he probably could have won two over the last 24 months if things went right he easily could have won three like obviously if he doesn’t miss the putt couple weeks ago he’s got five but no matter what happens and I think Rory mroy is going to win another major he goes I’m a four-time major Champion Jordan spe Jordan spe might never win another PGA tournament again like that that that to me is very very plausible I’ve won three major championships three and that’s the thing in golf like you have guys that have had great careers made a lot of money there’s a big difference for Jason day or Justin Rose like those guys just having the one major championship it changed Keegan Bradley’s career when he won the PGA early on in his career more than likely Keegan Bradley’s never winning another major but it doesn’t really matter like Colin morawa could go on to make a h hundred million do playing golf if he never wins another one it’s like well I got the two now we go the covid BL like listen I’m a two-time major champion and Scotty’s won too but it’s been the same tournament and honestly it feels like he’s going to win The Masters if he stays healthy probably like four times in his career it’s like perfectly made for him he clearly dominates on that course he’s very comfortable there he’s going to be the favorite at least for the next several years heading into that tournament but he’s got to win one of these other ones and I think on this specific season to even begin to compare him to 2000 Tiger Woods tiger WS three [ __ ] Majors that year so he he’s he’s just got to do it he’s got it or else it’s gonna be listen most lucrative PJ season of all time that’s awesome incredible just consistency of winning tournaments how many majors he win he only won the one now I I feel pretty good about him going into the British but it’s not like he has a long history playing these these courses over there and it’s not like he’s had that much success relative to a lot of other guys he’s going to see so that’s clearly going to be the number one story heading in uh well Rory because I guess Rory will probably have talked the previous week when they had the Scottish but yeah man I I I think he’s going to do it I hope he does it but if he doesn’t like I I do think it’s fair like you’re having beers with your buddy it’s like God we’re as awesome as that year was felt like he left a little meat on the boat get ready for a night full of big fights and big action it’s UFC 303 and it could be even bigger jump in on all the action at draftking Sportsbook the official sports 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separate from hitting bombs separate from just playing unlike any guy we’ve ever seen is he smiles a lot now he seems very happy do you know what people like happy people they’re just enjoyable to watch when they’re entertaining us and I think Bryson’s really embraced it and it’s worked out they clearly had some momentum coming into this week but I think they kind of hacked it a little bit and I don’t know if they’ve noticed this but they should 100% double down like people are not going to watch live on TV their television ratings are just not going to be good I watch every golf tournament every single week at least at minimum bits and pieces of it I didn’t watch one second on television so if they can’t get me they are going to really really struggle to get the Casual guy and that’s how Sports Thrive casuals most people are not di hards breaking down articles watching every shot watching every dribble watching every pitch the way you build your business is kind of off random people casual people that’s what tiger brought in in waves and last week at Pinehurst they had their highest rated tournament in like a decade Liv should try to build out as a party and they’re doing that uh golf but louder is their thing now John Rah which it’s kind of weird withdrew two weeks ago from Liv then withdraws from the open and then plays this week listen I I miss John Ron playing on the PGA tour uh he’s just an enjoyable competitor to have that there with the big dogs little bit of a red flag kind of bizarre now if I had to uh take an educated guess I would say well maybe he wasn’t that confident on his game foot was a little [ __ ] up and he’s like I I I don’t want to shoot 12 over and miss the cut and everyone make fun of me so I bow out play the next week whatever his team actually won and his partner Terrell Hatton won the event in Nashville but here’s the thing with live go to the party cities don’t go to any random City it’s clearly difficult for them to get on sweet courses why because usually the PJ tour is involved with those courses in some form or fashion and then some country clubs that maybe they would be interested have members that are associated with the tour and just push back against it but they came to Arizona earlier this year they went to Tucson I would find a way to come to Scottsdale Nash Party City every video I saw of Bryson looked like a massive party Vegas last year around the Super Bowl I would go to Vegas every single year Miami double down on that New Orleans double down on that they’re going to Chicago for their season ending Championship go to Party Cities because clearly the Saudis don’t care that much about the television ratings they’re not going to get them and financially it’s not like they’re making money from this endeavor it was all about a long-term play to try to uh disrupt the golf professional World which they did but I think your event in person could be pretty special that’s what makes waste management so awesome I play out there all the time School course it’s cool but but it’s not you know [ __ ] Olympic club or Pebble Beach but they’ve created a party there it’s an event which actually kind of jumped the shark this year it’s why they’ve pushed back and I think going to raise general admission prices from what I’ve heard four or 5x because they want to calm it down a little bit well live is doubling down on the party aspect so if you want a party go to the party cities Scottdale Nashville Miami Vegas and New Orleans would be mus haves in America for as long as this thing’s going because they went to Australia a party place and had a ton of success people want to go out drink beers enjoy themselves have a good time so who wins the event ultimately doesn’t matter it’s just Distributing more money to already rich guys the television product clearly doesn’t matter because nobody’s watching but the imperson event can be fun and that that’s what honestly The Travelers a lot of people and I I listen to a lot of golf podcasts talk a lot of crap about the event like it’s kind of meaningless why do they play there I’m watching it looks like the people are having a lot of fun there and there’s something to be said about that you know and I I think Liv might be on to something going to these specific cities that already have partying built in and just quadrupling down utilize Bryson right now utilize like he is your one asset and it’s a b he’s a big reason like the tour misses him greatly because if there was a number one draft piic of anyone the PJ tour could get back currently in 20 you know June I’m recording this June 24th 2024 it would not be John ROM clearly wouldn’t be DJ or Kea it would be Bryson dambo and every single social clip I saw this weekend was him Li Liv knows it and they’re writing okay before we dive into the uh to the mailbag uh there was a piece of news last week that Tiger Woods these designated events that are no cut he is going to be exempt into every single one and they just basic made it up which doesn’t bother me at all the problem is you think Tiger Woods going to play in any of these you think Tiger Woods is going to show up to any of these events I don’t maybe in 2025 he plays one extra event if I had to set the number on non- Majors that Tiger Woods plays in 2025 I I’d put the over under at 05 and I wouldn’t feel very good about taking the over maybe he gets super bored and just shows up but a no cut event that means he has to play all all four rounds when’s the last time he played all four rounds so it sounds cool it’s a cool headline they’re probably doing it specifically like let the sponsors know but like the evidence speaks for itself ever since his you know his car crash and the leg injury he just can’t play he said it over and over and over like he doesn’t have the capacity to do it so the headline looks sexy it got my attention and I started thinking like he’s not going to playing these events a lot of these events are either a week before or a week after the major and he always says like it takes me forever to get ready and then after the major I’m just done for a while so I I don’t know what expectation there would be for Tiger Woods to play in any events non– Majors moving forward okay at goop POD at goop pod fire into those DMS and get your question answered here on the show in a time where golf has never been more popular and more people are playing than ever why is are ratings down and I get half the field is playing and live but can I think of a few reasons why one four rounds of golf is entirely too much for the average viewer needs to be Friday through Sunday the Masters is the most popular event and is played firstly at the beginning of the year why not end the year with the Masters television ratings for Thursday and Friday are relevant those uh days of an event or a non- major are on the Golf Channel in ESPN plus they are not on CBS or NBC they do not matter so the only ratings that matter for golf are Saturday and Sunday and in those tournaments well some of the designate events now but talking the players talking Riv talking whatever Waste Management are after a cut so you have a smaller field trying to win the tournament I do think a big reason why they’re down is Liv because the majors have always mattered more but they’ve never mattered more than they do in 2024 because as we know one of the best players in the world Bryson’s gone some of the most famous players Kea DJ uh now John ROM are just not playing on a random week all those guys would have been playing this week at the travelers all those guys would have been playing at the RBC some of those guys I listed are champions at the waste management or Pebble Beach or Riv so you don’t have this is an individual sport so if I take away some of your top talent it doesn’t mean as much it’s why when we watch the US Open clearly it’s on Father’s Day a lot of people are home but there was Bryson D Shambo who we never get see anymore going toe-to-toe with Rory so the drama built in with just the name recognition but also getting this guy that we don’t get to watch I I really don’t think it’s that complicated now there’s been one guy over 25 years who truly moves the needle he doesn’t even move the needle he was the needle in Tiger Woods but in a sport like this no different than tennis which is not the same but if we went back 15 10 years ago if I took Federer or jokovic or Nadal or SAS or some of those those guys and I split them in half it would diminish any event it just would now maybe tennis is different because they’re Grand Slams are probably the only thing most people watch but in golf like it’s an inventory sport every single week they’re playing the next couple weeks the RBC in in Detroit and the John Deere in Iowa don’t matter and they never really have but when you diminish The Players Championship when you diminish the memorial when you diminish Riv when you diminish Waste Management it does impact the consumer so like you said Thursday Friday you’re right it’s just it’s a long Tern but they don’t matter they’re not looking to get ratings if 500,000 people watch on the Golf Channel that’s a win it’s all about for CBS and NBC Saturday and Sunday and I think you see a direct correlation with pinhurst superstars two guys that you could not see any other time going ahead to head beside four times a year it’s not even possible anymore because one guy doesn’t play on the PGA tour so I I I just don’t think it’s that complicated I don’t think they need to change to three days because I I do think the cut and the ultimate you know meritocracy of golf that cuts guys out that aren’t playing well it’s why a lot of people including myself push back against this designated event no cut [ __ ] now I get it from a business standpoint if I invest a lot of money as a title sponsor I don’t want Scotty Sheffer having an off week and getting cut even though it’s not possible right I don’t want Rory missing the cut or Colin morow whoever the star players John Ron Bryson back when those guys played the problem is I I need all those guys you only have so many guys that have true name recognition in golf with the Casual I know most golfers warn fery included because I follow this [ __ ] most people do not you could argue right now beside tiger Phil there’s less than five guys that move the needle you you could argue it’s really three right Rory Scotty and Bryson D chambo well one of them’s gone and I that’s just definitely impacted the sport in in a bad way can you discuss a bit more about the ratings impact that you were seeing on these PGA tournaments I have a buddy that is trying to convince me that all these Stars leaving isn’t making a big difference in viewership so it’s it’s very similar question and like I said I you can’t remove star players from an individual sport like this just look at the NBA who has struggled with ratings imagine if I took five of their top 10 players and I put them in another League that no one was paying attention to beside like social Clips I removed Curry I I removed Giannis and I removed Luca it’s like well you still got LeBron you still got Anthony Edwards you still got Tatum and brown it it would it would hurt and I I think golf has been impacted by that because you know you’re not watching the best of the best compete now you could argue that historically guys got to choose their own schedule listen the business model was not sustainable you can’t have a sport built on stars when they don’t always have to play what’s a big issue with the NBA over the last 10 years load management guys not playing you just go to a game it’s like wait Curry and LeBron are sitting tonight what the hell that’s what football brings to the table when you buy a when you buy tickets to a football game if that guy is not injured which is obviously possible in that sport he’s going to play so when I go to a Miami Dolphins Bills game I I have a pretty good idea if Tyreek Hill and Josh Allen are playing in that game and let’s face it most of the time they do it takes an injury for them not to play and that’s the one problem you get in golf before this whole situation was like oh yeah John ROM’s taking this week off Bryson’s taking the next two weeks off Rory’s out like I understand the emotional Comedown I don’t understand it but I get where he’s coming from bowing out this weekend at The Travelers in Rory that’s that had to really suck for him clearly uh on um on Sunday against Bryson but like bro kind of need you to play this is the business we’ve built and you’re a huge part of it you’re the lead dog can’t just like leave I I know you’re emotionally down but we kind of need you you’re kind of one of our lead dogs like you’re carrying the flag here of this business where we’re all making the money and I I just don’t it’s a tough spot it’s why the tour was very vulnerable golf mailbag like you I also like golf play and gamble on golf I’ll send you picks of the golf simulator room I built looks pretty sweet here’s my comment golf broadcasts in general are pretty lame I know you’re panned on some of the live broadcasts but they have some good graphics that really enhance The Telecast I’m a nerd I want to see see swing metrics ball speed launch angle ball Tracer all of them every shop being telecast should have a large array of the me of the these metrics and Graphics as mentioned live has nice Graphics that show t-shot flight versus score to par that I think really enhance the broadcast I’d like to see more of this more Graphics more metrics you see it in other broadcasts Apple does some of this in their baseball broadcast Amazon with Thursday Night Football I’m with you I’m not opposed that I think anytime you’re watching CBS or NBC and the shot Tracer does not work off the tea it’s like that that’s unacceptable like it has to you got to get it you can’t have a guy especially on a Sunday and it happened multiple times yesterday where dude teed off and you don’t see the chot Tracer I I would say this about the launch angle and the ball speed that’s pretty inside baseball but I’m with you I don’t think anyone be opposed to it like I like it when they do the the Apex on a shot when they do get the shot tracer let’s face it CBS and NBC who have all the golf stuff are both heavily involved with the NFL and they put all their chips in the middle of the table the way they treat those broadcasts how seriously they take it how Innovative they are how quick they are to reshuffle stuff they just don’t take golf as seriously if I were defend to defend the golf broadcast who in the you know golf podcast and media world take a lot of [ __ ] it is not football or basketball where there is a timeout and a three-minute break and you can just go to commercial break and nothing has happened if you watch the NBA Finals if you watch an NFL or college football game you never miss a play you never miss a dribble in baseball you never miss a pitch golf is pretty unique that you have however many guys on the course at one time 60 70 guys and maybe 10 15 in the mix it’s hard to show all the shots and get the commercial load in because the only way they can make the money by purchasing the rights is to show commercials they have to make their money back listen I’m in that business we play commercials some of you guys complain about it it’s the business we’re in luckily if you listen to a podcast like everything I say you can hear we miss shots in golf I I I don’t really have a solution for that uh clearly it doesn’t feel like they obviously care that much at times and a lot of people feel like it’s one giant Fu I’m with you you can always be Innovative I think the walk and talk thing is a cool little addition but again that’s pretty nerdy too um I think at the end of the day golf’s just kind of a niche boring sport it’s why it’ll never be one of the big sports in America in terms of like 20 million people watching that doesn’t include Tiger Woods but the three four five six million people that watch the big events sometimes the Masters 8910 million you can do a better job and sometimes it feels like they’ve just waved the White Flag like this it is what it is this is our broadcast I got back from my Father’s Day round of golf to find NBC broadcasting the US Open all day I love it I’m going to be floating in the pool the rest of the day so not really listening to the coverage I just wanted to say I’m a big fan of NBC having it all day love your takes on networks ratings uh want want to hear your thoughts on the coverage one issue that the US Open had was to have a good I would say coverage in any sport you have the play-by-play guy and engulf in football it’s Jim Nance on CBS in football he has one guy next to him forever it was Phil Sims now it’s Tony Roma in basketball these three-man boosts are awful just give me two people give me the play-by-play guy and the analyst and in golf you got a bunch of people on the course you can throw it down to that are following the leaders it should be an easy back and forth like a pingpong I like brandle shambley I know a lot of the players hate on him I’ll say this for brandle he’ll talk a little [ __ ] he’ll be like that’s awful and sometimes in sports you get these guys former players whoever that are never willing to criticize yet when we’re all sitting on the couch the reason all this exists all the sports are us watching if we didn’t watch none of this would exist golf would just basically be great players playing in member guests so you have to resonate with the fans I’ve said this forever about Troy Aikman he kind of got his fastball back after he went to ESPN and Tony Romo got paid and he will be critical of coaches and players especially coaches and sometimes you watch these new play like Tony Romo ain’t really being critical I like Tony as a guy like I like to play golf with him he’s not really my cup of tea I like a guy to be aggressive now some would say that brandle was being overly aggressive to Bryson because he hates Liv which is well documented which I I thought he was a little too but you can’t have four guys in the booth it’s just too many people talking him and Faxon going back and forth and let’s face it there’s a balance right Trevor imman is not the level of player Nick FDO was but he is way better than Nick FDO it ain’t even close he’s good he’s also easy to listen to because it’s just two guys it’s him and Nance and then everyone else on the course so when you look like you don’t need to be Tom Brady to be a star broadcaster you just don’t being a broadcaster is about entertainment and can you relate and can you create like emotion to the guy watching when you’re the analyst are you willing to say some stuff sometimes it might be uncomfortable for the dude playing or a coach or whoever depending on the sport but if you’re not willing to do that I think you’re terrible at your job it’s going to be interesting with Tom Brady who is crushing these hits with coward but like is Tom gonna crush a coach that maybe he knows or maybe he likes it’s kind of a weird position to be in if he does that as well as how well he speaks about the game he’s going to be a superstar but like I like big personalities it’s why John Madden is an all-time rock star even Gruden like guden was pretty entertaining on Monday Night Football Nick falo was terrible never said anything it was awful Greg Norman in theory should have been really good big personality big talker you watched him when Fox had the US Open for a couple years he was awful at Chambers Bay when when Dustin Johnson has a chance to Eagle to win two putt for extra holes or three putt he just completely froze like he choked I was like God this is awful it’s a tough job I’m not acting like I could do it but I know what’s good and what’s not because I’ve been watching sports for 30 plus years and the flow of that US Open I’m not even talking about the commercial I’m just you can’t have that many people talking it’s just too weird it doesn’t it doesn’t work there has to be somewhat of a a cohesion with everybody and it’s so much easier to have a cohesion when there’s just two people when you got three four people sitting around each other it it just does not work and it didn’t work but ultimately the golf was so good you could argue it doesn’t really matter as I’m watching The Back N on Sunday of the open Us open an idea popped into my head and I know it will never happen but it would be cool if they could have Rory hold off after finishing a hole and let Bryson catch up so they could finish the round being grouped together however if you make Rory stop for the extended time you risk him screwing his rhythm up I just don’t like when the tournament is coming down to two players and they’re not in the final group together I think there’s two elements of this question it worked that weekend mainly because they were literally 10 minutes apart and the way that course flowed the tea boxes were right next to the greens it worked but you could argue it never should have happened they have these archaic rules in Gulf if a bunch of guys are tied at a number that is based on when you finish that round who plays the following day it’s why Rory and Bryson were not paired together or it’s like guys you control everything right you control who plays together you make up the rules that was a no-brainer in what world if you control everything would you have not put Rory and Bryson together on your question sometimes it’s out of your control if a guy is a group or two ahead and they end up being tied or you know it’s it’s basically a two horse race and they’re not in the final group it it just that’s part of golf but on that specific instance at the US Open they should have just put the two together now you could argue it worked out a little bit better for viewing kind of the back and forth but it didn’t need to be that it just it did the Masters does the same [ __ ] like you control it so I I never understand why you wouldn’t look at the NFL they don’t control who plays you play your division you play a division in another conference you play another division in your conference and then you play first place schedule or second place or wherever you finish so we know when a season ends the 17 opponents on a team schedule yet they take the sweetest games and they make sure they’re in the best spots right they control the schedule they don’t control who plays each other even though the best teams end up playing each other because first place teams like the Chiefs play the bills every year right pton Manning and Tom Brady played each other every year because the first place schedule but like they do control when we watch it and what games are in prime time I I do think golf has to do a better job at that and easy you you make the rules it’s not like there’s some governing body you could do whatever you want to do okay last question what do you use to record and edit your pods well I I record this on a garage band I shoot the video on Zoom get sent back to my team uh James Adam and they cut it all up Daniel and I uh I have a mic says Focus right it’s like a a mic you would find at a I don’t know a radio you know it’s this isn’t if you’re going to get into this business you can’t the USB mics just aren’t as good so you have to get now it’s a lot of equipment I didn’t set it up James did so I I can’t I’m not an equipment guy I just know we got really good equipment I got a nice Sony camera but the USB mics if you’re going to get in the mics stay away from that I feel like enough people aren’t talking about how incredibly lucky Bryson actually ended up being from his t-shot hitting the spectator his second shot was still incredibly tough but had it not hit that fan it would have been even tougher on the second shot maybe I’ve overplaying it but wanted your thoughts that’s part of pro golf I mean you hit Towers you hit trees it’s part of golf sometimes you hit the worst Drive ever and it hits a tree and goes out to the middle of the Fairway sometimes you hit a good drive and you’re behind a tree I would say he got a pretty bad break being in the root and under that tree but like you hit fans like there there’s nothing you can do about that I never understand and I’ve been to probably five plus PJ Tour tournaments I never ever stand 300 plus yards on a hole I’m either at the T box or kind of around the green you know in The Stance but I would never ever stand on a whole I you’re just in the firing line guys get peppered all the time but to me you could argue that Bryson got really lucky Rory hadn’t missed a putt inside four feet all season long if he just makes those two putts Bryson [ __ ] out of luck I think he got more Lucky in Rory’s putting woses than he did a bounce because we saw all week long sometimes you got kind of boned in that wire grass and sometimes you were fine it was truly like keep your fingers crossed it’s why it was so fascinating watching those guys walk up the Fairway having no clue most horses we all play you have a pretty good idea like hope I’m not in the bunker or hope I got a decent line in the rough now in Arizona sometimes you’re like I hope I got a shot out of the dirt but at that course it was truly like I don’t know I could have a perfect lie have 150 yards in that won’t even phase me or I could legitimately be in a bush so I don’t think it’s that I I just think these guys hit fans all the time on drives every week every tournament fans are getting hit trees get hit remember at the PGA Bryson I think it was like whole 16 I think he ended up biring it hit one of the worst drives he’s hit in any major this year duck hook left hit off a tree middle of the Fairway it’s kind of golf you know it I I think it’s just there’s a Randomness to the sport it’s why when these guys [ __ ] and moan about getting unlucky like yeah I I don’t feel any sympathy for you now I get it if the greens are running like concrete I’d be mad too but this notion that you should just be rewarded it’s like well there’s too much luck involved well yeah it’s kind of the sport what we all deal with watching you guys have to deal with it like they love last weekend Travelers hit it the hit at the pin it stops 10 footer for birdie like I I kind of I really enjoyed watching Pinehurst because was like I know that I you nobody I know could break a 100 not a soul and I’m talking guys that shoot in the 70s it would have been so impossible that was fun golf to watch and it pissed a lot of guys off they’re getting mad they’re bitching and moaning it’s like yeah it’s enjoyable to see you guys with your back against the wall keeping your fingers crossed on every single shot and I think it most spoke on their drives with that wire Rass I’ve seen a lot of different opinions people thought it was kind of stupid to me it’s better than just like seven seven inch rough that there was such a Randomness to it that just kept you on the edge of your seat it’s why both Rory and Bryson on the 18th hole when they both pumped it left which I I still don’t understand both guys and I would say most guys on the PGA tour drivers could be a little iffy happens to us all the majority of them hit their three-wood pretty straight both those guys hit their three-wood 300 yards so clearly the Fairway is not that big on 18 both of them their misses left you got huge area to miss left in the [ __ ] why wouldn’t you just pump a three-wood to the middle of the Fairway even Bryson You could argue he you know Rory’s in a little bit of a trouble probably gonna par why wouldn’t you hit a three-wood to have a pretty good chance at birdie and I know he just always hits driver but the driver had not been working even he said after he’s like my driver was kind of all over the place it wasn’t doing what I wanted to do I don’t understand why he didn’t hit three-wood on 18 when he had just hit three-wood whatever on whole 13 and drove the green dead straight baby little draw why he didn’t do that I don’t know I I don’t I don’t get it but ultimately it doesn’t matter he’s US Open champion and be one of the heavy favorites headed to the British Open
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Lord Middlekauf keeps it rolling ⚡️⚡️⚡️
go low is the best. i used promo code john on game time for concert tickets and always watch your takes. you have to post a video of your next nine holes. maybe with colin on his vacation ?
Look forward to the Go Low segments each week following a tournament. As a golf fanatic, it's tough to find someone discuss pro golf in a real way like this. Huge fan bro.
No john / he’s NOT Tiger damnit- Jesus get out of this guys underwear…
I love scotty but man, he's got a long ways to go…we've heard this before witj spieth, rory, koepka, etc…all of them fell.drastically short
Love that you talk golf man. Found you will Colin during last years NFL Season, and I think just the way you break stuff down and make it extremely consumable for the viewers is awesome. You have a permanent viewer in me for sure 👍. Keep it up!
Geez everybody slow your roll. He isn't even beating all the best every week. Obviously he's really good but the Tiger crap has gotta stop. Let's revisit in at least 5 years and more likely 10. When he passes Phil we can talk
This was peak….Aplus insight and nuance J.M.
Something happened on hole 72. Scottie’s wedge landing spot to where he putted from weren’t even close…check it out
All he has to do is win the open and then about 10 more majors and then maybe
I liked when crowds had the same integrity as the golfers. I miss the golf clap.
The guys won two Majors and let's face it he plays against pretty weak Fields on the PGA😅😅
If you look back at your podcast just after the Masters, you will find a comment from me that Scottie will have only the 1 Major (Masters) win this year…and yes, it will still be only 1 after The Open in a few weeks.
Difference is Tiger was playing against the best in golf at the time…not against weak fields event after event…just sayingThe difference
I’ve played with a caddie once, told him on the first tee that he’s for yardages, ball hunting, and a chill round. I have none of the shots lol
NBC broadcasts in general suck. Whether it’s golf, NFL, or notre dame football. They’re very mediocre in everything with their broadcasts