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Welcome to episode 10 of The Terry Collins Show. The weekly podcast covering all things NEW YORK METS.

The episode we’ve all been waiting for! The VOICE of the Mets Radio Broadcasts, and member of their Hall of Fame, HOWIE ROSE joins us for a Talkin with TC. Howie discusses his favorite calls on the air, what the Mets mean to him, and how long he plan to stay in the booth! How answers fans questions as well.

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[Music] hey dun Met fans and welcome to another edition of the Terry Collins show presented by tunnel to Towers supporting America’s greatest heroes donate just $11 a month by going to t.org I’m John Ari and joining me from Port St Lucy Florida the former skip of the New York Mets analyst for SNY baseball night in New York Mr Terry Collins Terry welcome back from New York thank you John thank you I’m glad to get back and uh have some fun doing the podcast we’ve got some great guests today we got a great guest next week so it’s exciting I’m looking forward to it uh good stay in New York the weather was spectacular so I made it made it nice to be up there awesome uh we do have a good one as you mentioned today by popular demand we will be bringing on on our talking with PC segment the longtime radio voice for the New York Mets Howie Rose yeah I’m excited to have hoe on he’s the best I mean he is uh you know of course he’s got a golden voice Hall of Famer and I got the opportunity to do some games with him the last couple years and I’m going to tell you you talk about a learning experience you know you know on from from the field you think that job’s easy but when you get up there and see the job they really have to do and he’s the best at it so I’m really excited to have him on yeah I can’t wait to talk to Howie and and uh he’s certainly one of my all-time favorites and I can’t wait for you guys to get into it on talking with TC but let’s talk about the Mets who’re back after two days uh in that big Series in London England they split the two game series across the pond with the team in the best record in the National League the Philadelphia Phillies uh the series had a playoff atmosphere uh and I’m sure that Major League Baseball was happy with the event over 100,000 fans attended over the two days uh what did you think of the series and the international initiative by Major League Baseball to bring baseball over to London well first of all I thought the series was a good series I mean it was very very entertaining uh Sunday’s game was really a great game I mean for the Mets to come back and win that game and and I know there was a lot of action and stuff but I will tell you I’ll go back to in the ninth inning the best at bat was Tyrone Taylor’s leading off you know that nine pitch base on balls to start the inning was a great great at bat and then of course the game ended on a a wildest I’ve never seen that play before in my life but I’ll tell you it shows the alertness and in the you know how these guys react and how good they are when they have to think on their feet quickly and uh you know TR did a great job of getting he knew he had to get the out at the plate and yet have the mindset also to make a throw to first base as he’s off balance so good game game they had for me they had to win uh you know just it you kind of you that’s a something where you can start a rally or start a r big run winning a a tough game like that so hopefully that’s what happens yeah the Mets certainly needed that Victory and the way that game ended I think uh in the history of Major League Baseball that uh double play two to three I mean you could count it on one hand how many times that H happened in the history of the game so that was pretty exciting to watch and it made for a much better flight home uh for the for the Mets for sure uh but your your vast experience in the game you of course managed over in Japan uh with the or buffalos of the mpb and with Team China 2009 World Baseball Classic tell us about baseball in these other countries and would you like to see uh Major League Baseball expand this effort taking baseball to places it has not been yet well first of all I I know one of my good friends um is involved in international baseball his name is Chris hok and he works for the commissioner’s office and he flies all over the world you know and I have given clinics all through Europe uh several times where we you know we’ve been to Germany I’ve been to the Czech Republic I’ve been you know to little spots as are trying to promote baseball around the world and I think it’s a great a great idea it’s tough and I’ll get into it in a minute but yeah my time in Japan the game was very interesting it’s played a little differently than it is here they tremendous respect for one run so they played it score one run and they played a defense against one run so uh very they’re tremendously disciplined players um but baseball is throughout the country the same in China’s trying to grow it China’s trying to do a better job they’ve you know they have a sports Ministry in China where they’ll take these young athletes and and bring them and they’ll test them and then they’ll put them in different when you’re soccer gonna play soccer you’re GNA play and so I had some guys who you know they R it out to become baseball players so but they don’t don’t play enough games in China to be able to really make that giant step where they do in Taiwan and they you know they in in some of those other Asian places you know those countries they they where they play a lot of baseball baseball’s not played a lot in China soccer still and basketball still the two biggest sports but throughout Europe the hardest part is you know that you got to get baseball in the schools I mean I I gave a clinic in uh Germany where I worked with the their 15-year-old national team and I’m telling you you talk about some athletic players they’ve got them but again they just because of the educational system their day runs long they it’s tough for them to practice I had talked to one high school coach who uh told me he said you know Mr kins we he said we do it the best we can to try to get you know play as much baseball as we can he said but I only have 12 players on my team in the school because most kids are so they’re either you know their soccer they soccer is so big in Germany but the school day is so long it’s tough to get out and and we don’t have a lot of baseball fields to play on and he said but you know uh four of my players are girls on my team so he said I don’t even have enough guys to put up to put a team together so the Nationals the national teams of these countries are are what’s where we’ve got to start to grow the sport but you know we’ve got to get little leagues in these countries we got to get them playing more uh it’s and it’s very very tough I went I was in London uh gave a clinic for five days in London and you know and again they enjoyed it they had Club teams but they just don’t play enough games and so in order to grow the sport you’ve got to get them and get them to enjoy playing the big game of baseball yeah and certainly invest in those schools and build those fields and get the kids involved at a very early age yeah so uh thank you for that Terry um uh I want to get to the uh current Day New York Mets here um there’s still several games under 500 and there has been a recent uh several recent moves uh that the team hopes will shake things up and turn the tide a couple of recent moves saw the Mets DFA Tomas Neato opting to keep L Terren who made that great uh Game ending double play he’s hitting over 300 in his new backup roll now that Francisco Alvarez has returned from the I and they also released Omar Navar navarez since we last tape what’s your take on these catching moves the Mets have made recently well you know I I thought they did a good job I thought you know n again being left-handed left-hand hitting catcher was an ideal backup catcher he just hasn’t hit and then that’s that’s a big thing when you know when you play and you’re a backup guy when you get in the game you know they’re not expecting big things but you you know they these are these are guys who look you got to really be able to catch and throw or you know come up and be a power kind of guy um but but you know getting Francisco Alvarez back that’s that’s got to be a key and I’m you know he and again the energy he brings and how he healed so fast from that injury from that surgery is really amazing so I think that’s important I think Terren is obviously come on he’s got he can catch and throw so you know he’s he’s going to be a backup guy which he’s been in the past so it should be a good blend but you know one of the keys and again it comes down this game John is you win and lose when those guys on the mound you just can’t out slug you just don’t can’t out slug those great pitchers when you start getting into the playoffs and stuff you set face such good pitching you’ve got to be able to run some pitching out there that keep the other team down so that’s what’s it’s about getting that pitching worked out and uh hopefully you know we get SGA started to come back but one of the keys is to get Edwin Diaz in the spot where he starts to save those games because that bridge to him they’ve got those guys they’ve got those guys who can you can get that seventh and eighth inning and lock it down to where he comes in and finishes the game so I think getting him back on track is the key yeah and Diaz is coming off the ilil uh and uh Carlos Mendoza said he’s going right back into to the closers role he had a couple of uh rehab outings that he did pretty well with down in the miners um and I’d say Terry as you are he’s kind of the most important piece now for turning this team around uh can the Mets even consider contending without Diaz coming back strong not saying he’ll ever be the guy that he was a couple years ago but even close to what he was uh just uh just a few years ago well Donn I’m going to tell you again shown their offense is starting to come around a little bit but I’m going to tell you with the way pitching is today the way the starting pitchers at 75 pitch mark they’re coming out of games and so you’re looking at five maybe five plus Innings out of a starting pitcher and you’ve got three or four or three guy three key guys in that Bullpen and you we’ve seen recently they’re starting to wear down already and it’s only the it’s only early middle of June and so you know you’ve got to have somebody that’s going to save those guys that you can put in in situations where their matchups are pretty good because you’ve got that lock down guy at the end of the game because now they’re using those three guys a lot and and there’s a lot of nights if you got the lead at seventh eth to ninth inning you want to use those guys and they’re using them a lot so I think it’s important that you know they start to try to push those starting pitchers a little bit more get a little bit more depth out of them uh so we’re those relievers are not asking three and four pitchers every night uh to be in a game I was when I was doing TV last week in New York there was I did a study I did two two games in a row and the average in every game including both teams eight pitchers a night are entering baseball games and that’s a lot of that’s a lot of pitching wow that is that’s I don’t know how that could be sustainable uh and then your arms get tired and then everything goes to hell if you can’t have as that bridge to the closer uh the Mets have also made some news infield development since our last show they’ve been sitting uh Jeff mcneel who struggled the past two seasons and they’ve been opting to play more games going with Jose and glacius who’s hitting over 400 uh and has a OnePlus Ops and with Brett batty now back in Triple A uh there’s a directive that batty begin playing some games at second base in the minor leagues now that Mark ventos has kind of taken over the third base job mcneel is an intense competitor there’s no doubt about that but is it possible that his benching could be the maybe the beginning of the end for Jeff mcnean a Mets uniform well I can’t say it isn’t it’s certainly a possibility I hope it isn’t I I I mean you know this guy won a batting title three years ago and he’s a really a good offensive player you know and I’ll tell you when you’re that intense and you take a lot and Jeff takes a lot of it on himself I mean he pushes himself to the Limit and sometimes you fight yourself when you get you’re that intense I’m a living example of it you know because you you you demand so much of yourself that you know sometimes you tried too hard and I think Jeff’s one of the things so you know taking a little time off in the middle of the season and I know they said well you know he’s working he’s been in the cage working on things I’m G tell you something John there’s a lot of good hitters in that batting cage you know it’s when you get on that field with that guy in that different uniform that’s on that mound is when it counts so you know I think they they gave him some time off but they put him back in Sunny’s game and what does he do he gets two big hits and and then all of a sudden the next day again he’s back on the bench again and I I think that you know if he’s going to be your guy you gotta you gotta get him out there and find out if he if he continues to struggle okay make the change uh and glacis great backup player it was a very very good short stop when he was younger very good got great hands great teammate I I had him last year when I was doing some stuff with the Marlins really enjoyed being around him and he’s the ideal guy you need to set Jeff against a tough left-hander hey this guy’s faced some of the toughest left-handers in the game for 11 years so I think that’s a great pickup by them um but if you know Jeff mcneel you know this guy was you know there was times he they thought about hitting him third there times he’s hit fourth this year For Heaven’s Sake so he’s a really important offensive part and the only way to get him going is to get him that lineup seeing a lot of pitching yeah there’s a lot going on with him they had him batting ninth last night he went off for four so they’re moving him all over the place and like you said after that two hit game in uh in England maybe he should have been in the lineup the next day to kind of see if he could get some momentum going but yeah that’s it you know the fans love Jeff and uh he’s been such a great part of the team and of course the batting title a couple years ago and it really is kind of sad to see him be you know slumping and you know how emotional he is so hopefully everything’s going to work out with Jeff and he gets a couple of good games under his belt A Few Good Hits and that could lead to him coming back to where we’re all accustomed to him being and that is kind of like a 300 hitter well you know John one of the things one of the other factors with Jeff you know they’ they’ve kind of put him in second base hey when when that team was going great they because they had Jeff MC they could play him anywhere you know and so to find a guy to let maybe use Jeff and put him in left field get you know give uh one of the guys a night off put or let Vientos have a night off you want to DH ventos maybe against the left-hander Run Jeff over the third base because that’s where his value was so big and when he was doing that role he performed he performed brilliantly yeah he was and yeah CU he is that utility guy that you know not only he’s an elite player but he could play several positions so that’s an asset to any Organization for sure um all let’s get into some of Met’s history Terry and looking back at this week in me met history from June 8th 2010 with the 272nd pick in the 2010 MLB draft the Met selected a pitcher shortstop named Jacob deg Grom from Stetson University uh Terry what Memories do you have of of deg Gro coming up through the Met season before reaching the majors in 2014 and do you remember about hearing Jacob deciding to be a full-fledged starter rather than competing as a short stop back then well I I knew when we signed him when we when I when I was the field coordinator uh when I first came to the Mets you know Jacob De was going to be a pitcher you know he’s six foot five um great arm and so shortstop was not even in in the in the thought process they were going to put him on the mount because those that Scout saw that good live fastball that he had so he was going to pitch well you know early he had that he he got Tommy John so he sat out a year but when he started develop everybody everybody I ever talked to in the pitching side in the minor leagues started talking about this guy command it always started with command you know they had the good arm but how he commanded his stuff you know threw strikes with his fast ball he had a back then he had a little curveball in a slider that he threw strikes with um later as he got closer to the big leagues he started to develop a change up that you know was also pitch he needed so that he could again just change speeds a little bit but when he came up John I’m going to tell you his ability to adjust on the Fly was off the charts and I I I’m going to give the minor league coaching staff credit for that a lot of times that is an in or an innate uh talent that everyone some of these big league players have but this guy in his second start I mean I brought him he started against the Yankees and threw fine but his second start he started of that game he didn’t have couldn’t find his breaking pitch it wasn’t working and yet he didn’t stop throwing it he kept using it in certain counts so he could and all of a sudden in the fifth inning he found it and gave me seven Innings that’s hard to find a guy that has has that ability to continue to pitch and learn and you know just weasle his way through the lineup not giving not giving in with the fast ball making pitches with it and still trying to find that field for that break of ball and you know that’s hard to find and and that’s why I thought at that point I said this guy’s going to be really really good and of course he certainly has been really really good what a great pitcher uh uh Jacob deg Gro is and uh he’s coming back soon from this injury so let’s hope that he uh picks up where he left off and one of those elite players uh finally Terry June 10th uh this is 2003 one day before his 20th birthday Jose Reyes made his debut for the Mets against the Texas Rangers in Arlington the 19-year-old went two for four two runs scored in that game uh Terry talk about managing Jose first in 2011 the year he won that batting title and then later when he returned to the Mets in 2016 and 2017 well first of all one of my favorite people to be around have you ever seen Jose where he didn’t have a smile on his face he absolutely loved to be at the Ballpark he loved to be on the field he loved to play tremendous talent I mean one of the greatest throwing arms from short St with that funny delivery that he had that I’ve ever seen lightning fast power from both sides I mean even though he was basically was more of a singles and doubles guy but he could you know he could hit him out of the ballpark if he wanted to and I tell you his energy was off the charts in 2011 when he won that batting title I have not seen anybody I actually couple guys Jeff Bagwell the one year but this guy every game had great at bats every night he just didn’t give away at bats and and I that’s why you know he kept his average where it was and you know what he he again he was so hard to defense because he could drop a bunt down on you in a second so when he would come up infielders had to come play in a little bit because of his foot speed the fact so now all of a sudden their range has been shortened because they’ve had to move closer to the hitter and he played games with certain guys but fun to be around and when we got him back later in in my tenure there when he showed back up I said was in the locker room talking with David wri when he walked in and these two guys had the biggest Smiles on their face they were back together they were you know those those two guys were brothers and uh and again his energy the way he handled things and his ability to help some of the younger players you know Amed Rosario was a Protegé of Jose’s and you know his his rise in the big leagues he he owes to the fact that Jose Reyes was in his corner so uh one of the most fun guys I’ve ever had on my team and uh I’ll telling you what John I’ll bet you tomorrow if we saw who Jose Rees he looked like he could still play and he probably can still play he keeps himself in tremendous shape and and I just I was a pleasure to be around him yeah one of the most exciting things for me watching met games uh back in the day with Jose was when he hit one in the Gap and he started circling those bases uh that energy and that speed and just it was just incredible to watch him rounding for a second going to Third and uh no one like it yeah one of my favorites of all time as well Jose Reyes uh you could check out Mets history every day by going to at New York M history on X and now it’s going to be time for our special talking with TC and now it’s time for talking with TC he is the radio voice of the New York Mets and has been calling Mets game since 1995 his signature put it in the books is a phrase that brings joy to all Met fans he is called play byplay for both the New York Rangers and New York Islanders in his illustrious career a New Yorker through and through he has mced many magical events in Mets history on the field and has hosted the opening day ceremonies at sha stadium and now City Field since 2004 he’s an authority on Mets history in 2012 he was inducted into the National Jewish Hall of Fame he’s a member of the New York Baseball Hall of Fame and in 2023 he was inducted into to the New York Mets Hall of Fame it’s our pleasure to bring on the one and only Howie Rose Howe welcome to the show thank you that’s a wonderful introduction and all it proves is that I’m old we we all are hly we all I get it I get it good to well I I’m just I want to start out by just thank you for coming on obviously you know we’ve become great friends and you know I don’t know John did you know that how and I worked together we actually I did some games with him last couple was it last year H last couple years two years ago yeah years ago fabulous how was that experience oh we had a we had a great time I mean I tell you what I learned one thing John and that is how difficult that job really is I mean he is peppered with uh commercials that he has to read in the middle of he’s he’s doing the game and all of a sudden they slide a a commercial in front of that he’s got to read and and then now hey how how about all the times that that you know I want to add something and they tell you before hey look you know let how he let him let let him finish the action and I start to say something now he’s got to read a commercial and I’m thinking how how do you do this job my God it keeps us in business it’s about the best of it you know that it’s like a it’s like a every almost every plane hour sponsored by someone every strikeout the first pitch this and that isn’t that really distracting it is you get used to it it’s just the reality of broadcasting baseball in the 21st century because the bills have to be paid you know but but one of the great things about having Terry with me for however many games it was was that we could revert to what to me and I hope Terry it kind of reminded you too of when you were growing up and listening to baseball on the radio because we weren’t pounding anybody with Statistics and all of the information that we have access to today it can make your ears bleed if you use too much of it and so to have Terry in the booth and be able to go back and forth exchanging stories and anecdotes I I mean I I enjoyed it just as a listener never mind as a guy do in the broadcast because you know you bring 50 odd years of experience from TC into the booth and and we didn’t have to rely on that would go through most people’s ears anyway yeah you know how I agree because that’s I mean I grew up obviously I I this in a small town in Michigan I mean we listened I listened to the tiger games and I listened to the Milwaukee Braves games because that’s all we could get because there was there was the game of the week was the only game you could watch on TV so the radio guy he had he had to paint the picture and you know and so you talked about the action and what’s going on in the field and I’m not sure of course today numbers you know they say a lot but you know I’m not sure the fans can relate to numbers as opposed to relating to the action when you’re calling it absolutely and that’s why I think we as broadcasters have to be so careful about what specific information we disseminate because we’re not trying to show off or anything we have all these uh various press notes and different websites that give us information that’s definitely lead ger main to the game in some situations but you could drown in those in those Waters and as I’ve gotten along in my career I’ve realized that most people most people I’m not talking about the hardcore Baseball fans but I’m talking about most people who are just interested in hearing what’s happening on the field and having a vivid portrait portrayed of what’s happening on the field those people are turned off by too many numbers and too many statistics see you have to be really careful about how you weave them in yeah I agree how all the years you’ve met are been been announcing tell me the most fun year you had anouncing Mets well I got tell you 2015 was right there but as you know you know 2015 was a great what last three months right I remember in in Late July and and you’ll remember this I’m sure Clayton Kershaw went through the Mets at City Field one night like a a knife just going through butter I mean and were shut out in about two hours and you know the roster was different you had I think Eric Campbell betting cleanup or something like that and you know was not an imposing lineup it just wasn’t it’s it’s it’s what you were given but then I looked at that as kind of rock bottom then things started to change the trade deadline came obviously Center the centerpiece of that was Yan sesus but obviously you know Kelly Johnson and and AR rebbe and conforto being brought up and you know everything else totally changed the the the look and the structure of that roster to the point where we went on on the most enjoyable two or three month ride that I ever had in baseball um just about from the trade deadline on it it was fabulous and I I I I’m sure you enjoyed it as as much as we did because it got you into the World Series yeah it was it I mean it’s was a magical season for sure and you know I’m looking forward to you know we’re going to have some people on who were a lot of responsible for the forming of that team putting it together because I’ll tell you know you you know when I got the job in New York I wasn’t sure you know the direction they were going to go CU I remember the first year you know in 2011 we were going to make some changes you know we traded belon and and they were trying to build up the farm system build up the younger players and and so we were kind of riding that hey look’s we’re going to build and build and all of a sudden you know they say he made some moves and boy it changed the entire makeup of the club and and it was just a blast every day to go out there and you know and you know one of the things I don’t think the fans realize howy is the time before the broadcast that you put together all of what you want to talk about during that broadcast as far as you know pictures a picture on the other team you have a story about him that you find out about or some guys on on the Mets you you come up with with some and I I find out how do you get all that information I mean where does it come from well I’ll tell you part of it and it’s it’s not stat but you know I know I think you for this in person before so I’m I’m happy to say it in a more public setting but I have covered every Mets manager going back to Joe Frasier in the mid 1970s and never were we as broadcasts given the access that you gave us just to keep us informed on who might have been down on the bullpen that night or who might have had some sort of injury that might compromise his performance that night but what you did in enabling us to have the broadest scope of understanding what that roster looked like on that night not only enabled us to do a more responsible job of broadcasting the game because we knew who might or might not be available but you know I have to tell people that Terry was smart enough to understand that it gave us the opportunity to have the managers back because it’s easy to second guess a manager when you don’t have all the information but when you and a fan might say well why is he not using so and so here why is he hitting this guy instead of that guy we knew that and and ter you came to trust us pretty quickly and I remember I think your first year maybe your first month first month I said t let me ask you something off the Record and you said BS nothing ever ends up off the Record but you know we right but we had to prove our our loyalty if you will to you and you returned that in kind and I think that made our broadcast better and hopefully we brought the fans a little closer to you and and how you thought and how you ran a game well you know how I I really thought obviously you know we really upset some of the media some of the written media guys who didn’t stay in before the game John we you know I had this we have this press thing and then I used to let let hoe and the announcers stay in because my thought process was this hey look they are Mets they travel with us they’re in the locker room they’re with us all the time you know they need to know some stuff you know you know I don’t worry about the other guys who were you know that work for different P you know these guys are part of the team and I always thought gosh it it’d be nice it might help their broadcast if they actually know what’s going on because why second you know why guess they do you think he’s goingon to use this guy tonight when hey look if he’s not they don’t even have to bring it up and you can they can just do the game so I thought it worked out great and you know and you guys and again how as I sat there in that room you know some of the questions that you guys would ask me you know sometimes I wouldn’t thinking wow I I’m not really sure I got an answer to some of those questions but you know in it goes to the fact that you know I was so taken back when I got to work with you about the work that goes into getting ready to announce the game and then the process of doing the game itself man I you know I used to think you guys go up there and sit down and the game starts you open your book you keep track of Who’s Who strikes out who gets hits and then moved on and I found out that is so far from you know so far from what goes on so I really applaud the job you guys do that’s it’s incredible well thank you we appreciate it and you know what after all these years it’s still fun yeah you know how I got to tell you one of the toughest things I’ve ever seen you do ever was announce the roster of the Mets this year on opening day have you ever had the Sue Chef Sue Chef you named them all I didn’t know I didn’t know if we’re gonna get the game started was that like the toughest that the toughest introductions you’ve ever had you know what it wasn’t so much tough doing the introductions as it was to keep from laughing because you know I’m introducing people that never introduced before a game and you know they’ve got roles that the fans have no idea even exist and depending on the weather some of those fans are pretty cold and uncomfortable and you want to kind of get through it I know but and I I only say the Sue Chef because people love to chw Chef hands down of all of those people that were introduced got the best Ovation and so when I introduced whatever the chef’s name was and the crowd erupted I had to keep from laughing I mean it and I mean there’re so and there’s so many extra people now my God I you know I when you when it started I’m watching the game and I’m thinking now why would those guys be out there so I’m sure when you got that that say hey here’s who you’re going to introduce today you you had be going what well you know these guys it started last year which was interesting to me because when Buck Showalter was managing last year he told us after the fact that he endorsed that because he thought for people who were largely Anonymous within the organization that it was great for them and great for their families to be recognized publicly for all of the five seconds that it took to introduce them well yeah it’s 5 seconds times another 20 people or whatever it is but I got was coming from I thought that was his idea and then when I got the script this year I said we’re doing this again new manager and everything so not sure if it was Carlos necessarily who who wanted to do it or if that came from high or up but it it it was kind of funny I admit yeah so H who had in when you were first you know deciding you want to get into announcing who do you who did you listen to who made the biggest impact well my very very very first baseball broadcasting influence and again it shows you how old I am now was Mel Allen who was doing the Yankees um I fell in love with baseball in in 1961 the year the Mets were born and I was a seven-year-old we lived in the Bronx my dad was a huge Yankee fan and imagine this Terry imagine being an impressionable young baseball fan who was enamored with everything about the game and love it sitting next to your dad at Yankee Stadium watching Mickey M and Roger Maris in that Legendary home run duel in 1961 and then the next year the Mets are created and I thought geez this team was made just for me now because I’m a new baseball fan you know but it was Mel Allen’s voice that absolutely got through to every fiber of my being um but a little bit later on as I as I thought even as a teenager about pursuing broadcasting Marv Albert was the one who really was and still is to this day um my biggest influence my mentor I fell in love with hockey and the Rangers listening to Marv on radio and you talk about a guy who knew how to do a game on radio between hockey and basketball there’s never been anybody better so really Mel Allen and Marv Albert were my two biggest earliest influences yeah so how you so you did hockey how hard is it to broadcast a hockey game with the fast as that game you know I yeah it’s interesting that you bring that up because most people feel that it’s got to be very very difficult if not the hardest to do of all of the sports I would maintain though that once you get control of the flow of the game you know hockey’s so fast that you know if you’re not right on top of it it’s going to You’ll drown so you know you’ve got to be able to control the flow edit the action a little bit especially on radio you don’t have the time really to describe every single pass because a lot of it is irrelevant to the action itself and and once you learn to do that the hardest part is just identifying the players because what’s happened over the years is that all of the buildings are new now and the broadcast locations are way up here and worse yet way back there so you’re straining to see who’s who it’s not hard to do the game Flow but the hardest part is just identifying the guys because now they all we wear helmets they didn’t when I started and and the broadcast locations just not conducive to doing a crisp game yeah I mean it’s got to be with all the line changes I mean there so much you know in people in and out all the time I you know I I did play hockey growing up but I I enjoy going to the games but man I’ll tell you what even as a fan it’s tough to keep track of Who’s Who and you know and it’s I can just imagine trying to announce a game like that that’s that’s why I at least I know in baseball when there’s a you know change being made somebody’s got to tell the Umpire and so there’s a little bit of a delay in the and who isn’t so you see that’s what it’s interesting you say that Terry because to me that’s what makes baseball particularly on radio the most challenging sport to do because as opposed to hockey you have all of that extra time and you’ve got to learn how to weave stories or notes in and out without uh really clubbing The Listener on the head with too much numbers but you know once you get the grasp of that and again you can control the flow those are the biggest words I think for a broadcaster who’s learning any sport you have to learn to control the flow once you do that those two sports are so satisfying because they’re so different they’re Polar Opposites and I love them both yeah you know it’s you know I’ve always been amazed when you know I listen when I listen or watch a game you know and the it’s a bad game you know the the home team or whoever the obviously the team you’re you’re you know announcing for they’re having a bad night it’s I mean how hard is it to keep that flow going when you know it like it’s 11 to1 and there’s no action and there you know all of a sudden the big the stars come out and I mean that’s got to be you’ve got to be able to reach into your bin of stories and come up with something that entertains these guys the fan when they’re listening well you just hit on the keyw which is entertained because you know that a lot of listeners have tuned out if it but you also know that the ones who have hung in are for whatever reason the die hards maybe they’re expecting a huge comeback but they’re also expecting to be as you said entertained and so a lot of times where you would think that announce an announcer kind of loses a little bit that of that adrenaline and starts to crawl to the finish line for me it’s actually the opposite okay this game’s out of hand now I’ve really got to step it up and I’ve got to find a way to keep that audience hold uh held and a lot of times you need to have a real good partner who’s willing to go anywhere with you and believe me we have veered a long way off course from time to time but the stuff that’s funny you know the stuff that people remember isn’t necessarily the crispness or accuracy of a particular call it’s that story or anecdote that you might have told when a game is out of hand that they got a kick out of and so I love that challenge I don’t love when when a game is one-sided but I do embrace the challenge of and listenable and even entertaining how did you always have a partner was there always two of you you when you started yeah yeah I I’ve always thought it’s funny to say that because obviously you knew the greatest of them all Vin Scully from your days in the Dodgers organization and Vin largely worked alone uh there have been times when I have for a few Innings at a clip for any number of reasons and I’ve always thought it would be enjoyable as a challenge at least I used to think it would to do a game Innings one through nine without having a partner just to see if I could could do it and how it would turn out I would think it would be an easier thing to do now since they put the pitch clock in and move the game along a little bit I can’t even imagine having to have done that up until the year before last because the game had gotten so out of control in terms of how spread out everything became I think in a lot of ways what’s happened the last two years with the rules changes even though a lot not have embrace them is they’ve made the game a better product and so under those circum ances yeah it’d be fun I don’t I don’t know that I’m as up for the challenge now at age 70 as I would have been at age 40 or 50 but hey I’m game if it ever happens so how many years you think you want to go how many too longer I you know I’m gonna sound like a player here now but I I go year by year at this point you know we get to the Finish Line I take a month to decompress I kill every remaining worm in South Florida with my ridiculously bad golf prowess ground ball I mean Terry it’s just you can’t start playing this game at my age and think you have a chance but for some stupid reason it’s fun so once I get about a month of that under my belt um then I kind of take a deep breath because by that point I’m decompressed I talk it over with my wife and I say okay do we have another year in us and if if we come to the answer is yes then I go on and and that’s where acted through next year and and my mindset is do this year and one more and then see where we’re at well I’ll tell you certainly hope you’re around a long long time I I have a friend down here here in Port St Lucy who is I play a lot of golf with and you know and he’s friends with Ron Darling because Ron’s a member at the club on down here also and he told me oh gosh it’s probably been two years now and he’s a huge Mets fan he you know he’s got the MLB thing and but he actually turns off uh Keith and and those guy and turns Hoy rose on and listens to the radio broadcast as he watches the game and I think that’s a tremendous compliment to the job you’ve done well I appreciate that I hope he’s able to sync it up with the play byplay because of the delay that you get although nowadays no now everything is legalized as far as gambling if you do that if you just listen to the radio you might hear what’s happening ahead of what you see on in you know before the play is completed at least on television so have to bring that up the next yeah yeah at the next 19th whole meeting I’ll have to bring that up so John you I know you’ve got some questions for Holly oh absolutely and just to follow up with what you were just talking about I’ve done that myself is to uh try to sync up that radio broadcast while watching it on TV so I could hear you and it’s not easy to get that perfect so you know you know it’s matched up but uh there is a way to do it though if you delay the DVR mhm you know you put the DVR on pause and then you can sync it up with a play byplay on radio fast forward ahead to where I’m at that’s how you can catch up but to the trade maybe I’ll give it another shot tonight go for it problem is then we’re exposed yeah I tell you um you know I just enjoy it so much and and and how I mean your career you’ve called so many uh Great Moments in Mets history uh one of your most legendary calls took place June 1st uh 2012 when Johan Santana threw that first no hitter in Mets history of course that was a very emotional night for the franchise it was a very emotional night for Terry um tell us about that night as the antici anticipation built throughout the game both as a broadcaster and and also a fan and do you ever do you ever think the Mets would throw an no hitter in your lifetime no no that’s the beauty of what happened that night you know for one thing as TC remembers and I remember saying this around the fifth inning because Johan had been on a pitch count that Terry was pretty adamant about before the game at I think was 110 to 115 right if I’m not mistaken because he was a coming off of a surgically repaired shoulder and B had pitched a complete game in his previous start obviously they were going to be careful talked about four guys in the first four Innings and I remember saying on the air if you think tonight the night forget it because with the pitch count what it is it’s just it’s not going to work and and then I found myself doing something I’m almost embarrassed to have done it because I always prided myself on being a reporter in the booth and if a guy had a no hitter going just say he’s got a no hitter going because I grew up watching Tom sver and I went through all of those superstitions as a kid and you know Tom I think lost three no hitters in the ninth inning so I just had come to a point where I thought it had been faded for what whatever reason that no met was ever going to pitch a no hitter and so I don’t know why but along the way I found myself not using the phrase no hitter I said the Mets have all the runs and all the hits or whatever I had to do to let the listener know that a no hitter was in progress but I I felt a little dirty because I never used the phrase no hitter but that was the fan in me beginning to the later Innings and Terry I don’t know if you remember this but you know my on air partner that night was Jim duip because Josh Luen who was my regular partner was off his daughter was graduating I think high school and so Duke filled in and we get to the ninth inning now and Jim I don’t know if you ever saw the movie Broadcast News with Albert Brooks but there’s a scene in that movie where he is so nervous that sweat is pouring off of him to where there’s a puddle underneath him that’s how our booth looked under Jim duett’s seat he refused to say a word in the ninth inning because because he was so nervous whether superstitiously or just that he wouldn’t find the right words and give me enough time to get back in but I was as nervous going into that ninth inning as I’ve been I think broadcasting anything I’ve ever done and interestingly that ninth inning went pretty quickly because let me see I think it was Matt holiday was the first guy and he went after one of the first pitches and hit a Fly ball to pretty shot I think it was Andress Torres made the catch that’s one out next hitter was Alan Craig if I’m not mistaken and he lined out pretty hard to left but Kirk new and Heist had a relatively easy play so pretty quickly there were two out nobody on and I’m telling you my stomach is doing flips because not only am I nervous as the fan in me was hoping uh to see this thing get to the finish line now as a broadcaster I’m telling myself don’t mess this up don’t try to get cute don’t try to be poetic or too prosaic just watch what happened on the field and reported so what happens with all of those pitches he’s thrown knowing what’s going on in Terry’s mind this has to be killing him because it was pretty evident that Johan was not going to give him the ball so this was all Johan here and naturally he gets to three and two he falls behind three and0 right I think he fell behind three 0 comes back to 32 on on and who do you think is on Deck waiting to spoil the party if it came to it but aier stinking Molina who of course ruined the Mets bid for a pennant in 2006 it was going to have to come down to Molina right but Johan throws that change up free swings and misses strike three it’s over and in my mind in my heart I have to go one Mississippi two Mississippi did this actually happen the balls in Josh to’s glove and now I’m saying whatever I’m saying and you know again you become a reporter at that point but that was really as emotion a call as I’ve ever made just as I know it was as emotional a night for you Terry as you’ve ever managed right no without a question I yeah I mean I all the things you said is exactly you know went ran ran to my mind he like if probably the with the sixth inning I’m thinking you know H how is this going to happen you know this guy has got to give up a hit otherwise you know the pitch Count’s going to build and and this is not going to be good and uh and and I will tell you you know obviously in the seventh inning I went down said something to him and you know and I didn’t pull the you know don’t bring up the no hitter he we he know he knew what was going on and I walked down and and I just said how you doing and he looked me in the eye and he said skip I’m gonna be fine don’t worry about me I’m okay and I just said you’re my hero big boy go get him and sure enough he finished it yeah that was a that was a really electric night you know I’m not sure if I ever asked you this but if I remember right the score was six to nothing I mean you guys kind of pulled away and I know you knew what it meant to the franchise but you’re also always so protective of your players and thinking of them first when it got around the seventh or eighth inning were you quietly hoping that they’d scratch out a hit so this would become a much easier decision without question without a question but you know I will tell you he’s this is why I love him I’m going to tell you he and he was great after the game you know he came in my office and and thanked me for leaving him in and he said I know you could have taken me out he said I wasn’t going to come out but I I know you you might have tried but it he and I respected him to this day because you know he was legitimately uh thankful that you know he got the got that opportunity so it was quite a night for sure you know something I’m not sure I ever told you this but I did something after that game I’ve never done I mean this was such a special moment and an a unique one in Mets history by the time I got downstairs after the game because we did an extended postgame show must have been 45 minutes to an hour after the last pitch but I want to get down to the clubhouse just not only to shake Johan’s hand I was hoping he’d still be there but I actually asked him to sign my scorecard which I have never done before and I haven’t done since and I think to this day that scorecard is sitting in the Mets Hall of Fame in museum on display because it was such a it was such a m yeah it was such a momentous night in Mets history and it meant so much to me to have you know been so to have him sign that is something that will for me last forever wow yeah I still got my tickets from that night uh actually uh had quite a bit of Mets Mor mobilia uh I was unloading some stuff asked my nephew uh you know what would you like would you like my seats from from Sha Stadium uh that I have he said Uncle I just want the two tickets from the Johan Santana no hitter so gave those to him and uh yeah that was such a magical night but uh how you’ve had a lot of magical nights uh behind the mic and do you have a personal most memorable call for me personally it’s the Piaza home run in 2001 I mean I kind of separate that from the pack because that wasn’t as much to me about baseball as it was Americana you know that was a moment to me of national significance because we in New York were the and the wound was still very fresh it was only 10 days after 911 and I’ll be honest with you I I I would have been fine if they canceled the season on the morning of September 12 it it was so stunning that we were victimized that way that I couldn’t wrap my arms around the thought not so much of doing a baseball game for the next little while but driving to the ballpark 10 days later was nerve-wracking because this was the first time we were going to assemble in those numbers I think there were about 45,000 people at sha stadium that night and we didn’t know what to expect because of what had just happened so when Mike hit that home run you know the message was sent metaphorically never mind what it did to bring the Mets back to win that game but the message was that even though it was for a fleeting second and as I say the wound was still very fresh we’re going to be okay because we could still Revel in a baseball game and that’s why I call it Americana but to me the other the other call because it’s the closest I think I ever came to crying on the air was when Jerry’s Familia struck out Dexter Fowler to clinch the pennant in Chicago in 2015 you know I grew up playing stickball and punchball and baseball in New York and sometimes when we’re really young and we make believe we’re playing for a team it was for me always the Mets and I knew even then I wanted to be a broadcaster so there are a lot of times in the schoolyard I might have won a game where I’d say and the Mets win the pennant but I could only dream that those words would come out of my mouth in real time as they did in Chicago that October night in 2015 and as I said not only the Mets win the pennant but as I was kind of tying it all together and saying that they’re in the World Series if you listen very very carefully you could hear my voice a bit it was that emotional and then Terry the next day you almost brought me to tears again because we’re on the bus you’ll remember this I’m sure we’re on the bus we stayed over in Chicago and now we’re on the bus getting ready to go to the airport to fly back to New York and I’ll never forget this TC gets up in front of the bus and he goes I just want to make sure everybody’s on the right bus here because this bus is going to the World Series and I know you teared up a little bit and my eyes welded up a little bit because it was that realization that not only is that where the were headed but to be at least in my case even on the widest periphery just a little part of that it could be overwhelming at times and and so you know those moments to me those are forever yeah they are uh what great memories uh I got one more and I’ll turn it back over to Terry uh as mentioned in the introduction you’ve been uh had the honor of being the Master of Ceremonies for so many great moments on the field uh paying honor and tribute to U players with their numbers retired uh is there any um one that stands out above the others for you that you knew that this was such a magical moment you were proud to be and seeing that event yeah but it’s not going to be for the reason you would expect um usually when I’ve been set up for or had at least at that point been set up for those certain ceremonies my Podium or microphone was always near home plate but in 2006 we celebrated the 20th anniversary of the 1986 World Champions and they set the podium up right around second base now I am one of the world’s biggest Beatles fans I was a little bit too young to get to their concerts at sha stadium in ‘ 65 and 66 but second base is where they set the beatle stage up so when I got to that vantage point and I’m standing out there of these great players that you know a lot of them have become friends over the years all I could think of was this is the exact vantage point that the Beatles had this is what they saw this is where they stood to me that was more overwhelming than anything that I did baseball related that night yeah I have to tell you and I you know I was at the Beatles at Shay 66 and um uh as uh I told Terry before and another guest that was on a few weeks ago uh Andy Martino who’s another huge big Beatles fan uh he asked well where you where were you sitting and I I was my dad got us tickets we were on uh the Mets dug out about four rows up so we were close to wow you were close it was very close and and really that was life-changing for me uh because that was the second time I was at sha Stadium the first was July 3rd 1966 uh and that was my very first baseball game double header against the Pittsburgh Pirates Eddie crano gets three hits and became my hero for Life uh but uh you know a month later I’m back at Shay this time to see the Beatles uh so I can understand what you’re saying I mean you being in second base for that ceremony but thinking about wow this is where the beatle set up that’s that’s a very cool story yeah and you know what I’ll never forget that um I guess this would have been around November of 1980 this is long before I met my wife I’m having dinner in the city I don’t know if Terry this restaurant my old favorite restaurant in Manhattan Mike manucci does that sound familiar it’s been gone since the early 80s okay but anyway I’m sitting in Mike minucci with a date I think it was a first date and she’s asking me and you know who who have you enjoyed interviewing or or meeting among all the players you’ve known and I said you know what you could take every athlete that I’ve ever met ever will meet or whatever want of me put them all in one room lenon by himself in the room next door and that’s the room I’m going into it was right after he released Double Fantasy he was back everything was great and then less than a month later he was gone I’ll never forget that and I mean that too about how badly I would love to have met him yeah the same here I mean uh that was kind of my bucket list to meet McCartney or anyone of The Beatles and just like my obsession on music is the Beatles I listen to them almost every day uh are there any special events you’d like to see in the future at City Field anyone you like to see honored anything special for me personally I’d love to see them retire number seven Freddy cran I don’t know if that’ll ever happen but you personally what would you like to see the Mets do in the future to honor something you know what I’ve just got one thing left on my broadcasting bucket list and that’s if you thought it was emotional for me to be able to call a pennant winner and the last out of a pennant Clincher for the Mets that’s what I’m holding on for to have the words the Mets of the world champions I don’t know how much longer I could hang on yeah you know but at the same time that’s the only thing for me that that’s left and I I I pray somehow that happens Terry yeah so how you know one of the things that a lot of people ask me they you know I’ll meet somebody and they’ll want me to or I’ll get a call or not a call but a letter about you know hey I want to I want to become I want to get into baseball how you know how can I become a a manager in baseball I’m a player blah blah blah I’m in high school but what’s the role so how many you know I’m sure you’ve had the same question asked you so what advice would you give a fan who’s going to watch this podcast who is dying in the in the future to try to be a bro a sports broadcaster what route uh would they have to take well the first thing I always say and I’m assuming these are young enough people who are in either high school or college and they’ve got time to make a full allout Pursuit tell them is be aware that that you want to be a broadcaster and what I mean by that is make the adjustments that you need to start thinking like an announcer I tell them you’ve got to learn to speak you’ve got to learn to read you’ve got to learn to write properly and I tell them the best way to learn to speak is to listen the best way to learn to write is to read because you’re going to need those qualities and it’s fine to imitate somebody at first not just emulate but imitate because you’re going to need a while before you get comfortable with the sound of your own voice and if it means that you’re leaning on broadcasters that you listen to to compare yourself to or adopt similarities stylistically go for it and then when you get to the point where it’s time for college go to a school it doesn’t it doesn’t have to be Syracuse doesn’t have to be Northwestern or any of these big schools go to a school that has a TV station or radio station and go for radio before television because you learn to speak when you pursue radio and then you transition to TV as I did years ago but go to a school that has TV station a radio station and a newspaper and get involved with all of it but but think like a broadcaster and create a mindset that will enable you to pay attention to diction and grammar and everything that you’ll need to become an announcer down the road and be all out in your Pursuit because if you don’t want it as badly as any major league baseball player wants to ascend to that level you’re going to be passed by by somebody else so the same work ethic that a player has to exhibit on his way up through the minor leagues no matter how much natural Talent he’s got is the same commitment and work ethic that you’ve got to display as an aspiring broadcaster and then just go for it and don’t ever let anybody tell you that you can’t do it you know how I know you probably you know you don’t get because you’re broadcasting games but is there any new announcers around the league that you say boy this guy’s really GNA be good one of these days oh I well he’s good now I mean I love Jason benetti who just went from the Cubs to the T from the white socks to the tigers um yeah I mean he’s got everything he’s got the ability and the knowledge to not only watch and interpret a game but he is so great at engaging with his partner um but he’s already ascended to network level and then there were younger broadcasters like Steven Nelson out in LA and um you know my partner here with the Mets Now Keith rat I mean we took him out of out of aball he was working with the Brooklyn Cyclones and to see the prog the progress that he’s made in a year and a half it’s stunning he’s going to be a fabulous broadcaster um and I love and I know you with players and and and managers and coaches I’m sure but you know there were so many people who I look at over the years who mentored me and gave of their time and and Marv Albert’s right at the Albert is right at the top of that list um I just I embrace the role that I have now which is to pay it forward and um and I love when I see young broadcaster that I’ve even spent five minutes with uh moving on to the next level or just getting better it’s so rewarding and I’m sure Terry you feel the same way as a manager and a coach and and one who’s who’s brought young players along I mean you you your history has been in Player Development there must be so many guys that have made you proud so so how do you ever think about leaving do you ever think about you know a job open someplace else you say boy I would have really liked to have had that job the only I say not not now I mean you know again I’m 70 years old now but but you know back when I was used to dream of working in Southern California I as as a New Yorker whenever I got out there I just I was in love with LA and San Diego and um I I just would always dream that someday maybe I’d get a job out there but then you know think of how fortunate I’ve been I mean there were two teams that as a fan as a kid dictated my moods and they were the Mets and the Rangers and I got to work for both of them so you know at a certain point in my career you know I I wasn’t going anywhere where as far as geographically and um and so now you know it’s just about you know how long I want to keep going and and again I’m the hired help they could say to me tomorrow you’re done and I’d say okay thanks a lot I’ll see you in Florida but but back then you know back then it was yeah I’d love to work in La wow so John let’s get some questions from some fans for hly yes absolutely uh I got one last question for you howi um and then we’ll go to the questions for the fans I want to talk about about your Hall of Fame induction last year how special that was alongside Gary Cohen Hojo Al ligher uh as a student at the cardoo high school in Bayside you ever imagine you’d be a member of the Mets Hall of Fame oh my goodness not even close I tell you though what what was most stunning to me was not just that day but it was the aftermath because you know you get so caught up in the festivities and your speech and you know everything else the goes on that day it’s a whirlwind but I’ll tell you what really hit me when you consider what it means to me there’s a a logo painted on the wall right outside the Mets Clubhouse and last year say two or three weeks after the induction ceremony I just happened to be walking that way and I looked at that logo and then I had this it was kind of an epiphany it just dawned on me I said you know all those years that I’ve worked I look at at that logo and I’ve always recognized what a big part of me that logo’s been but then this realization came over me that sent shivers down my spine I said in some small way being part of the Mets Hall of Fame now means that in this minute fashion I’m now a part of that logo in perpetuity and I I mean that buckled my knees and so that’s what that day and its aftermath meant to me and I look at that logo now in a different way than I ever did before and it is as humbling as anything I can look at well certainly a well-deserved honor and what a what a great thing is to be in the Mets Hall of Fame thank uh we got some questions from the fans uh the first one actually came in on our email account Terry Collin show at gmail.com hi Howe I grew up in the UK and came across the Mets by complete accident a kid in school back from holiday in New York was sporting a Mets cap so I heard of the Mets before any other team what do you think is that magic ingredient that makes Met fans so unique given that their neighbors have won so many championships and like to talk about it so extensively I think he answered his own question right there you know there is a unique identity to the Mets and younger fans cannot possibly understand what the Mets meant in New York from their very beginning in 1962 you know the Yankees just come off of one of the great years in baseball history 1961 as I spoke about before but remember now there were two fan bases in New York that were disenfranchised when the Dodgers and the Giants left just five years before the Mets played their first game so whereas you might have no National League Baseball New York a lot of those fans would have gravitated to the Yankees that wasn’t the case the Yankees attendance for those four interim years was flat they didn’t get any more fans because the Dodgers and Giants left so the creation of the Mets was caused for major celebration Casey stangle did an incredible job of selling that team and even though the Yankees were Champions the Mets to a large extent owned New York even during some of those great years for the Yankees and then on through until 1969 when the miracle of baseball Miracles took place and comparatively you could not find a Yankee article in the newspapers back in those days the Mets had such a strangle hold on the city as they did in the 1980s as well so this whole business about the Mets being the little kid brother to the Yankees could not be anything further from the truth historically if it’s been lately that mindset needs to change and I think under this ownership yeah I totally agree so we thank Simon Harrow from Hong Kong for that question and by the way he loves listening to the games on his way to work in Hong Kong every morning so I got a fan Far Far Away uh we have one one more question this one comes from uh uh X Sam Caris uh what are your favorite Terry Collins stories over the years of you covering the Mets with Perry and The Dugout I gotta tell you they come so quickly I mean every day just hearing Terry talk about whether it was Tommy Lort or guys in the Dodger organization or you know just other figures that he’s crossed paths with over the years um I can’t think of one specific story that stands out above the others but there is one common thread to all of them and that is respect that Terry Collins has for this game you know he has been all about playing the game properly respecting not only the opponent the teammates but the history and the fabric of this game and you know I look at Terry and I I I see somebody who you know could have played one of those baseball managers in the movies whether in Major League or Naked Gun or any of those funny movies or the natural because you know this man has been all about baseball and the reverence that he’s had for the game is is something that’s so special and I just get a kick out of the fact that you know if Terry’s popularity as a Mets manager was up here when that video came out of Terry and Tom hen with the you know the ass in the jackpot and you got to give us a shot I mean Terry was never more beloved by Mets fans than he was after that video came out but he always always had his players backs and even when they had relatively poor rosters in terms of at least topend and contending rusters um you know those teams always played hard for him no Mets team or Mets player ever ever ever quit when Terry was the manager he wouldn’t let him he had too much respect for the game and through osmosis they had too much respect for Terry to ever lay down so yeah the individual stories of individual characters are great and I’ve loved every one of them but the overriding feeling that I get when I think of Terry as a manager is just how much he’s loved and respected the game and how much that’s come back to him over the years great thank you so much hoe Terry that fair Terry yeah well thank you how for that yeah I that is that is what pretty am about you know I was uh raised to to respect the game I I mean with without it what would you be doing today I mean what would I be doing today without without the game of baseball so once in a while you got to give something back and and my effort was to make sure the game was played right I I said it in my every interview I’ve ever had you know the the only thing I want is when a father leaves a ballpark with his son that win or lose the game he says to his son that’s how you’re supposed to play that’s the only thing I ever tried to do so uh Howe anyway thank you so so much for being on you are for Hall of Famer and it’s uh an honor was was an honor to be your friend it was an honor to work with you I learned so much and and can’t wait to have you come down and we’ll work on those ground balls you’re hitting on that golf course and get out and play if if you ever have a problem with worms on your course just call me I’m the Exterminator we’ll get there I I I look forward to seeing you down there and just just thanks for having me this was great you thank you very much Howie rose that was an amazing interview and Terry uh what a pleasure it was for me personally to to talk to hoe and the Synergy that you two have together is incredible well he’s he’s outstanding and you know again that’s that story I’m going to tell you John that story I told about my friend that turns off the TV guys and turns on Howie I can’t tell you how many 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is that was a great video and uh you know I’m looking forward to continuing to do what I can to help out and uh I’m just it’s a pleasure to to fact that they take the time to try to help us out on our podcast yeah and it’s baseball initiative you’ve cut a spot for them and of course uh Pete Alonzo is running right now and the spot we did and uh John Gibbons and we did John Franco at the World Trade Center a few weeks back and uh we’re so excited that we got Mike Piaza uh on June 25th uh uh to do a spot as well and and former Yankee manager Joe Tor is committed to do one as well so we’ll be up there with Joe that week uh also but we thank them uh for their support here and I encourage everybody to just go donate 11 bucks a month t.org and Terry that’s going to wrap it up for this week uh another good one in the books uh anyone special in the on Deck Circle that you be working on for future shows yeah we got uh someone who’s very special to me uh if it wasn’t with wasn’t for this man I would have never probably gotten back to the major leagues and had the tremendous experience I had in New York we’re gonna have Sandy Alderson on next week uh you know he’s responsible for every everybody you know it’s nice to be patted on the back about 2015 but it’s Sandy Alderson who got that that entire team put that team together and uh obviously did the right thing wow I can’t wait for that that’s going to be great to have you and Sandy together on this uh podcast and Terry thank you very much again uh we appreciate it so much uh you could follow Terry on X and Instagram at Terry collins10 and for all of you on Facebook follow Terry there at the Terry Collins show uh you could follow me on X and Instagram at Johari and don’t uh forget to subscribe now to the Terry Collins show on your audio platforms especially Apple as well you can give us a festar review we’ve had some incred incredible reviews up there posted recently so uh that really helps us out five star review on Apple 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