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[Music] it’s time it is that time time for Styles and watkings you can join the show by texting 916 339 1140 find us on YouTube at sack toown Sports 1140 it’s time for Alan Styles at Chris [Music] Watkins yes yes yes on a Tuesday going up styles and Watkins sack toown Sports taking you up to 2 PM the one and only Simone behind the glass for us today as we get you through my least favorite day of the week and I think I’ve talked about this before Chris I mean there’s just no hope an there’s no hope on a Tuesday yeah you’re still telling people what you did over the weekend that’s why they said well tacos can maybe fix Tuesdays right and Tacos make everything better so hopefully you get some I know a meal will I can already smell it in the other room as we take you up to 2 PM and Sasha ven off as we were closing out the show yesterday we started to dive into something with WHYY gleon as far as a report that came out that kind of got bulldozed by all the other reports that literally said and you know seems like a credible reporter as well Chris as we continue to confirm and break that all down but it essentially said or he essentially said that the Kings sold Sasha that he wasn’t going to be part of their plans or something to that capacity right after that was the main report saying that Sasha wanted out so how those two things timed up we will discuss and why nobody is talking about the king side of it which Chris you kind of alluded to yesterday so we will break that down in more detail today the NBA Finals who is your MVP of the finals so far Bob Meyers okay decides to hook up his fellow general manager friends and and give an answer that isn’t really an answer so we’ll tell you about all of that Shams and W we have tin foil conspiracy theories about this Dan Hurley situation whether or not the whole thing was a sham not Shams a sham we will discuss what in the world happened there the Lakers continue their search also we have somebody from Minnesota that we talked about a little bit last week we’re going to break it down in detail who may be available a lot of different people interested in him and again a name where we’re gonna see a lot of people say no but if he went to a team that you don’t like I guarantee you you would not be very happy we will discuss who that is and there is a member of the Golden State Warriors who is likely to be released says reports would you want him on the Sacramento Kings we’ll tell you who that is and of course 12 o’clock we have some draft talk and just what should you be looking for in this year’s draft if the Kings decide to keep it and two prospects going up head toad I put this on social media and it’s causing a bit of a stir so we’re going to get your thoughts on these two young players in the game one they’re both from Northern California one is from the bay and one is from Sacramento closing out the show with some Giants A’s and the major league baseball player poll which is hilarious because people are making fun of the Dodgers Chris Watkins how you doing good man yeah I’m excited for that uh that that conversation about uh these two Northern California players I think that’s definitely going to uh as they said in what is that Blades of Glory it’s gonna it gets the people going for sure and that that conversation is definitely going to get the people going excited for that excited to talk some Inn out later possibly a lot of uh a lot of people upset about what’s going on in and out so Tuesday exactly it uh it may be not your favorite day of the week but there’s some uh really interesting stuff that we’re going to get into today can’t wait can’t wait let’s start here Chris and I have no clue what to do with this and you know we talk about front office a good bit on this on this show front office Sports because we like the business side of the game I think we had one of their writers on too in Vegas right that’s right I don’t know what to do with this though game two of Celtics Mavericks averaged 12 million viewers on ABC the most watched NBA Finals game two in five years isn’t this coming off the it didn’t I I swear it wasn’t game one view G Finals game since like 2008 or something what does that I don’t know what to do does that mean that the that game one was just at a bad time maybe I mean I I do kind of think like do you think maybe the layoff had anything to do with that because what we had about six or six days it felt like without an NBA without snuck up on some people yeah I I kind of think so I think it it might have been maybe something as simple as that um because I definitely think the Celtics have enough pull you know I think your your general casual NBA viewer will will tune in just because the Celtics are a legacy brand and you’ll always want to see that you got luuka in there for the first time you got Kyrie so you’ve got big enough names to where I mean should this be the most viewed finals ever like no it shouldn’t be beating the Braun Steph Curry games but you would guess like this is should should outdraw the Giannis Suns finals those things um yeah so it was kind of a bit surprising maybe it’s just kind of leveling out like you said May maybe it really was just the wrong day for them to have a game one I think that it’ll probably be pretty well viewed but kind of like I said at the start of the series I I mean honestly I I don’t know how many people are going to be tuning in for game three and game four especially if game three is a win the three Series game four probably not many people are going to tune in if it goes 31 even I I don’t think this series gets a ton of viewers if this thing uh is 3 31 if it goes 21 I think that kind of resets everything and can turn people back on but you know it’s it’s a it’s what a b B+ matchup in terms of you know what what I think the NBA could have gotten it’s fine it’s not excellent but I think it’s good enough to to to attract a general audience I’m I’m really struggling and I hear you on if the because at first I thought okay maybe it would do better during the week because people can’t really go out so why don’t just put it on there’s nothing else really on sty Cup finals are going on as well but for that Thursday game to not do well but then the Sunday game did well that’s a little bit interesting to me because Sunday you got your kids soccer games and things like that so yeah I think we’ll know more after game three you know Chris I’m really struggling with this Joe Missoula situation and not about some of his sound bites I’m just talking about on the court I really don’t know what to do and if let’s say they sweep the Mavericks I think as crazy as it sounds I think Joe Missoula could actually earn more points if you will if the if the series goes six because if they sweep it’s too easy it’s too easy and you start thinking and I know he’s had some good sound bites post game and he’s kind of doing the I don’t know if you you’ve seen he’s he’s kind of doing the the Shawn McVey thing where he said oh yeah well they scored 25 they scored 25 in the first three quarters and the only reason they didn’t score in the last quarter is because we gave up three so that allowed Luca to get to the line and he did one of those and people are like this is Rainman esque this is so cool so yeah fine but if you sweep then we start having the conversation of was this team too good name me an NBA coach that wouldn’t have won with this team and that so Luke Walton Mike Brown didn’t have to be there right these assistants were able to win exactly if Steve cerr didn’t get the 2015 I think people would look at him a little bit differently even though Kyrie and Kevin Love got hurt you still got it if the only championship and then he got 2022 but if the only championships he had was the ones with KD and and and the rest of the crew you got the armchair coaches like my father and you know everyone’s got an uncle that says well I could have won with that team and we’ll never know and I think that if the Celtics just beat the breaks off the Mavericks and this thing is a sweep I don’t know I think Joe Missoula let’s say the coach is the coaches list he will be on it because he has to be on it but I don’t know he’s not getting past I don’t know if he’s top five and I don’t know if he should be top five to be honest with you no yeah I I have no good answer for you I mean the only thing I can maybe compare it to is like early Eric spola where you know I think a lot of people again kind of like Joe Missoula they just didn’t know what to do with him it was like you have LeBron you have dwade you have Chris Bosch how tough is what you’re doing actually and LeBron didn’t get along with at first wanted him fired for Pat Riley so a lot of people had questions on okay if LeBron doesn’t want him as your coach but yada yada yada and long story short I mean we end up knowing that now you know Eric spoler is one of the best coaches in the league I say all that to say we might not get an answer on Joe Mula until you know you get a season where maybe Jason Tatum goes down early in the year and yet there’s still a one seed throughout the remainder of the Season or something like that it’s gonna unfortunately for Joe Missoula I don’t think he cares because it all goes on his record and it doesn’t like he cares still fits the same but you know I do think it’s probably going to take some like real adversity for Joe Missoula to probably actually get some just do and I wouldn’t even say just does I think it’s just till we find an answer he’s definitely at least a a decent coach he’s coached his team to at least a Conference Finals and then an NBA Finals appearance but in terms of the caliber or the level of coach or the tear that people would put him in yeah I I don’t think we’ll actually get an answer until situation shows itself I mean until until he’s kind of in a situation where the the chips are kind of stacked against him or until he has to maybe it could be in this series maybe he just has to make an adjustment at some point maybe he’s got to draw up a play I don’t know I mean I was actually talking with Frankie about it before we even come in we came into the show it’s it’s kind of tough to evaluate coaches especially now it’s just it feels like we just end up talking about Stat or not stats but like your accolades okay so it you know I heard Dave and Jason having a conversation this morning of trying to rank where Mike Brown is in the Pacific Division it’s kind of tough to have that conversation when really at the end of the day like we don’t go through the X’s and O’s of everything I’m sure JJ reick or Lebron could tell us more about who’s doing more of the the coaching side of things but from the General Media or even fan perspective right really all we can go off of is your success so you know they were talking is is Mike Brown better than Mike buen holds or or or Tyron Lou well the easy retort back to that is those two are champions and Mike Brown’s not and so it is kind of tough to have any sort of coaching debate or coach conversation because it ends up being a chicken or the egg situation okay they won a championship but does that necessarily mean that they they are great or if Mike Brown wins a championship does he then Vault those gu you know it’s just a really tough thing to try and place coaches without uh without really having the institutional knowledge of being in the game I do not think Mike buen hoser is a better Coach than Mike Brown personally I mean it’s tough because like you look at the Atlanta teams that he used to coach back in the day where they were the one seed in those Eastern conferences granted they never got it done but 60 plus wins from those teams he coached the the Bucks to multiple 60 win Seasons he won a championship with the Bucks I I mean I don’t again this is where like I just said like I can’t I just did what I said every’s been like all I can do is list what he’s done and that to me says he’s a better Coach because he’s been through it and done it but maybe you could retort and just say Mike Brown hasn’t been put in those situations and that’s that’s it’s the it’s the Brock pie put a different guy on the ners same thing because whether it’s I it’s buen hoser there’s obviously Mike Brown and then I’m just I’m looking at these this champion list here yeah and then Frank vogle I don’t know what to do with Frank vogle he’s a bub chion but he got his championship Lakers didn’t seem to care that much they Cann him after two years he’s Flo and then he got canned again he was terrible in Orlando but he was good in Indiana is when he had good play so is he better than Mike Brown and it’s a question of like okay you were good when you had good players but then you were bad when you had so yeah I don’t know man I I do not think if Frank vogga was a coach of the Kings this season I do not think they are any better I wouldn’t think so but I mean CH to be honest when Mike Brown was hired I didn’t have many high expectations and he he completely exceeded those so like I again I I just I really coaches is is such a tough thing to evaluate when you’re when you’re not talking about you know the Legacy guys like we when you know you know bringing in George Carl there was no question on whether George Carl was going to do a good job when he initially came in because he had all this pedigree he ended up being a terrible coach for that team right but nobody had questions so I again it’s just it’s such a tough conversation to have George Carl who now is something else on Twitter he that was part of the problem here let me tell you he fights with carmelo or somebody every week and now he came out and said that he he said don’t worry Lakers I’ll I I’ll coach your team if you want so George Carl is definitely one of a kind coming up next we talk about the finals who is your MVP so far and hang on 10:30 we start our conversation on the tin foil hack conspiracy theory as far as shams W and Dan Hurley I’ve never heard anything like this you’re not going to want to miss it and at 11 o’clock we start our hardcore Kings coverage the other side of Sasha venkov Styles and Watkins sdown Sports you never know what you might hear when listening to a Sacramento Kings game out Keegan going for another triple man is he feeling it Keegan can he do it yes there’s number 11 Kean murrayan steps back he just knocked down his 123 three-pointer a Kings franchise record he’s got 45 points never miss a moment of Sacramento Kings basketball with sack toown Sports and the sack toown Sports app at fiser Investments we may seem like other money managers but we’re different what makes you so different than the rest of us we ensure clients receive unparalleled service at every step of the relationship tell me more our investment counselors focus on service over sales prioritizing clients needs how do you make money we don’t sell any 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sound when he essentially sold out for his fellow GMS with this answer about the MVP finals so far Chris you want to play it first and then say who we think is the MVP or say who we think is the MVP let’s that’s a great question uh let’s let’s play the audio first play the audio let’s get to Bob Meyers and because I’m just anybody who listened to me in the bay knows I have I wouldn’t say strong feelings on Bob Meyers but you got to keep me on track here because I might go on a b every needs to keep me keep me you know honest here but here’s Bob Myers on who is the MVP the finals MVP so far said Malik the team it’s it’s Boston’s team let me let me ask you guys a question um Malik I’ll start with you who’s the MVP right now of the finals I got my answer but I’ll go answer too all right right now he I’m going to go with Jaylen Brown okay I’m going Jaylen Brown who about you true holiday I’m going Brad Stevens you think I mean half I get it but but the team put a team together he put a team together Drew holiday might have been the best player in this game the first game it might have been Jaylen Brown might have been porzingis that’s the advantage that this Celtics team has copout Central and and and excuse me is it Malika the moderator she’s supposed to be the host hold on hold on I’m goingon to ask this question because I got I I got these narratives that I want to corny I told you guys I turned it off I said absolutely not well Rocking New Era on on the sack chat is saying oh I remember Styles talking about my feelings on Bob Myers and look look this is good on good on B no no no well good on Bob Meyers for you know hey I gotta watch out you know for my other GMS and and you never know who you could come across in this life Bob Myers doing a lot of different things in the in the audio and video but also but also you never know he could go back to wanting to be a GM but I I don’t have a problem with Bob Meyers I just think he was a bit of a maid man and when I was in the bay and Bob Meyers said he was stepping down I had to do these shows where it was oh my goodness what are we gonna do Bob Meyers this Bob Meyers that and my feeling was Bob Meyers didn’t draft Steph Bob Meers didn’t draft play okay so the two core pieces he did draft Draymond the two the the you you didn’t draft two out of the three core pieces which allowed the team to get Kevin Durant I don’t think Kevin Durant if anything Bob Meyers said some ridiculous stuff during some of the parade talk where he said oh well when when KD or somebody asked somebody was gonna get a bag and and he said well Seth is one of our day ones he said that at a parade while KD was there then KD proceeds to leave so you didn’t do any of that I understand oh people oh well he got Andre ug cool but he didn’t get any of the core pieces besides Draymond then a then after that he goes on these shows and jokes about misses in the draft he jokes about how bad he was at drafting are you and I know they were drafting pretty low besides those couple of years but those couple of years and what have a conversation about Jonathan kaminga versus Keegan Murray later but those couple of years you also messed up you could have had vogner you could have had different guys yeah so Bob Meyers to me I just think when people the same thing that people do with coaches and oh my goodness how how do we evaluate these coaches I’m not saying Bob Meyers is a bad GM I’m just saying I don’t know if he’s as Elite as maybe his resume presents sure yeah um yeah I mean that’s that’s super loaded I I don’t really you told me to do it I mean yeah yeah and you said you weren’t going to do it I’m I’m ready for it I just I uh I I definitely think that you make a lot of really strong points for sure and um you know what what do they always say like history is told by the winners and I think that’s gonna be a bit of the Bob Meyer story for sure is that you know he he gets to kind of write The Narrative of that he he kind of LED this whole thing and you know it’s good on him but no you’re right like they messed up a ton of those drafts and um you know yeah he definitely got a lot of credit for a lot of things that probably weren’t even his decisions or were out of his hands you know he did keep the team together for sure I I think that needs to be said and I’m was he the one who also made the Steve Kerr hire initially I I you know that that definitely deserves some credit because that I think was a tough decision as well I mean it’s probably one of those things where he’s not as great as or incredible one-of a kind as people say he is and he’s probably uh you know not as bad as what you know some of warrior spaces will tell you right I think he’s probably somewhere in the middle but I think that’s even more so to your point that he’s not a god like he is not some dude basketball a different level we got to him push these narratives yes about about Brad Stevens being the finals MVP yes just tell me you don’t know what to say Bob and you could say two things at once like you can say but can we I think Jaylen Brown’s the or hey I think Drew holiday is the MVP but if anything I think that really speaks to Brad Stevens and him putting this team together that we have two three stars and it’s the fourth guy that nobody’s thinking about like there’s ways of doing what you wanted to do without I mean he’s glazing GMS is what he’s doing right there that’s just saying oh you know GMS don’t get enough credit for putting these things together I everyone talks about Kevin Durant and Steph Curry what about BM how about Bob Meyers yeah what about what about Big Shot Bob I mean I have Jaylen Brown so far for my finals MVP I think through two games and I emphasize through two games because I think it’ll change but I think it’s Drew through two just because he’s been so good I mean he was ridiculous in game two what I think he was like 10 of 13 in that game lock he’s been locking up Kyrie he’s even switched on to Luca a couple times too I just think again through two games he’s been the best player I would probably honestly have Jaylen Brown as number two and I think I’d have Tatum at number three okay yeah there you have it we still still have a lot of time left in this finals and yes hopefully I had a buddy who was talking to me about prop talk and real quick and he didn’t realize so there’s a tab that said Series so you can pick I think it was KV no no just a a set number so it was either Jason Tatum or Kyrie Irving 99 points over under for the series oh okay he didn’t read it correctly and he did overs but it says games one through four oh so they don’t so it’s if yes so games five and whatever they don’t they don’t count you can still do game by game but it’s for the series is one through four and he didn’t read that so he smashed overs on everything and I said brother I think you need to reread that and he said I didn’t realize it was games one through four or I would have bet differently I bet you would have so he’s got to he’s got to deal with that you got to read the fine print everybody read the fine print we will read the fine print in this iracy Theory when we get back this is where we’re at right now we have not only do we have NFL players and NBA players beefing we have NFL broadcasters saying what saying what is easier to broadcast NFL or NBA this is out of control and now we have the summer of B continues it started with Kendrick and Drake now we had Shams vers W who said what who’s right who’s wrong we break it all down with this Dan Hurley situation when we return St Watkins sack toown Sports the only place you’ll find Harrison Barnes is sack toown Sports he’s got the bucket at the buzzer Harrison Barnes hey Sacramento it’s Harrison Barnes and you’re listening to the home of the Sacramento Kings sa toown Sports your local sports leader Sacramento weather is brought to you by fulam Lake Kia I’m tamberg in the kc3 weather center heading into 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Good Feet arch supports are HSA FSA eligible the Good Feet store in Sacramento Roseville Vacaville online atg goodfeet.com which is easy when you are playing better teams is that a coach’s job is a coach’s job to inspire the players because I kind of don’t think it is I kind of think the players are making millions of dollars and like that should probably motivate them to do their best not a coach not another human telling them you should try hard I also feel like that text is that’s that’s just somebody who doesn’t like Mike Brown I somebody trying to get Mike Brown fir yes it’s kind of pointing towards some of the losses that the Kings had yeah I mean and and we’ll get into I hear kind of what they’re saying that’s a part of it that’s yeah we’ll get into the conspiracy theory as well which is connected to coaching but yeah I mean what is when you hire a coach you kind of want them to do everything now what’s I what’s interesting as there’s so much comparison between NBA and NFL these days is that you don’t necessarily expect everything from one coach in the NFL whereas I feel like in the NBA you do for some reason maybe because the NFL has so many more players yeah but you know when you look at a coach that Mike Tomlin that picture went viral was it 17 years 17 years Mike Tomlin some of these guys when we put these guys into categories of this is an ex X’s and O’s Guy this is a raah ra guy right and you can have a raw raw guy as long as there are X’s and0 people around them X’s and0 coaches around them and vice versa yeah Ben Johnson Dan Campbell exactly so Nick serani Nick serani I I heard the drive guys talking about this last week so the so they got a new offensive coordinator they’re making sure their coordinators are better right and you would ask the question well what is Nick syani do that I mean if you if you have so much going on with your offensive coordinator and your defensive coordinator I he’s there to do and to inspire right and do what 925 said but that’s all it seems like and I’m not trying to you know downplay his job but are you saying that NBA coaches do more than NFL coaches alen I’m saying it see well I’m saying that we opening this side of the debate too well that that is a good debate and that probably will happen before the Summer’s over but it does it does feel like NBA coaches are expected to do what the 925 is saying and NFL coaches are not and I don’t know what the heck MLB coaches are expect to do just don’t don’t make the wrong substitution in the bullpen and get rocked much can can I ask a completely random question about baseball managers I don’t think it’s unfair to you because I don’t think you have an answer but maybe you’ll have more insight who slash why do baseball managers wear the J could you imagine if like Mike Brown was just like dressed like Kevin hder guy on the bench actually love that who decided that Jim Leland needs to be dressed the same as Juan SoDo or what you know like what I feel like it’s just one of those things that nobody asks about and it’s just like this is a 65 plus year old man yeah in a full uniform when like every I mean I know in the NBA they used to wear suits they don’t anymore but like I don’t know it’s just it it’s something that that has stuck out to me recently and I just I I I I’ve never heard a good explanation for why these guys are are dressed like the players are it’s just really weird no I’m not really sure either and you know it happens in college too I like yes and as I embark on my my coaching that’s right yeah you know my my coaching Adventure I I don’t know I don’t know how I feel about it I mean you I don’t really want to you can be different be different are you can you rul I literally don’t know I have idea rules right I mean is there a secret are they technically all on the roster they be that’s only roster players should be able to someone gets someone gets hurt on my team in about 10 years and I got a pinch run Gabe kapers looking like a DH out there or like a fre by the way those Tik to my God I can’t you want to talk about a dude in a suit oh my God I love I could I love how upset Gabe kapler makes giant because it so easy I had the connection because he came straight from Philly to the Giants so I had my buddies from Philly saying good luck with Gabe kapler then we went on to win 107 games so I said thanks for the luck yeah and then after that you got out of here Gabe kler I started making the Tik toks of food in his favorite coffee plac speak in Spanish I I I didn’t even know he was on the the Marlin staff until a couple days ago saw his Tik toks until I saw the Tik toks I I do think he was a bit of a scapegoat you know and and and it is what it is because now everybody is mad at Farhan but man those Tik toks and how upset dude it’s crazy pretty upset I mean there were people would people got upset because so he would go to Outside Lands and he would just really tick people off and I guess he did a burger review of the best burger in San Francisco and Giants fans lost it they lost it and I think you know we’re not going to talk about masculine fragility today but I do think he’s got that jawline on him you know he’s intimidating not a bad look I’m going put it to you like that so oh my goodness all the coaches talk seen coach thirst traps before and I’m here for I’m here for all of them crazy that’s what Tik Tok is for as we get into this conspiracy theory that’s going on so Chris you brought this to my attention so I’m gonna throw to you to kind of lay all of this out okay uh it gets a little bit messy because there’s a lot of angles to this but essentially and and Dave clued us in a bit uh this morning to uh the fact that yeah I mean Adrien Wow’s family or I believe his dad literally wrote a book about Dan Hurley’s father or it might have been W wrote b w is a Neo baby uh I think it actually might have been W wrote the book on Dan Hurley’s dad I remember a father was involved I’m pretty sure it’s w wrote a book on Dan Hurley’s father connecting him obviously to the family to the Hurley and maybe having a little bit of personal connection with them and that leads a lot of people to wonder essentially was all of this ruse was all of this Adrian wowski using his powers to get a I’ll call it a family friend uh it was more attention yeah uh possibly a a new contract at his new school also a bit of this people are wondering how much of this is the Lakers just trying to take the spotlight it during the NBA Finals that they’re not in which in between we talked earlier about that layoff that six days in between the finals games there’s a lot of JJ reck and then I think that’s honestly when the Dan Hurley smoke kind of started so people are wondering just have we all been taken on a ride here have we essentially gone through this week where Dan Hurley never actually was going to take the job this was all leverage this was all him always trying to get a contract raise with Yukon and you know there’s a lot of things that that point to it I mean if you again follow the the trail of all the reporting last week and how Shams uh had initially said I’m sorry W had initially said that Dan Hurley was the guy from the beginning and W and Shams obviously had reports the entire time of JJ reic being the guy and and James bgo being the guy was this all a you scratch my hey we can all win in this situation uh and you know as we know yesterday Dan Hurley made the decision to not be the Akers coach and uh I heard this morning Shams throw uh I don’t know if I’d call it a jab because it was it was a pretty it might have been a straight it might have just been uh well I guess that straight is a jab but you know I I think he he definitely uh saw it coming it might have been a bit of a Haymaker is what I was trying to say and uh here here it is here here’s uh Shams on uh on W and his reporting on uh just just really if Dan Hurley was actually ever a candidate here I’ve said that JJ reck has been the front runner for this job James reggo has also you know been among the leaders for this job as well with JJ reic but when you think about the process so far right Rob pinka has met before this Dan Hurley situation he had met twice with two candidates he he met with JJ reick once he met with James bgo a separate time solo and then James bgo came into the facility met with everyone met with ownership and and then they last week on Wednesday turned their attention I’m told to Dan her early and he was not the number one candidate the number one guy to go pursue from the start from the beginning uh but they felt like there was an opening there for him he was in contract negotiations with Yukon He was discussing a deal to go back and they felt like there was an opening and they threw what really people on the league believe was a Hail Mary offer at him six years $70 million and at the end of the day Dan Hurley chose not to leave he chose to stay for $20 million less at Yukon they did go up significantly from his current deal right now but it is $20 million less and you think about the Lakers job and what it’s known for and and the big ESS of it and he still decided to stay at Yukon go for a chance at a threee and you know it does beg the question around the league was there genuine interest was this a genuine process with this or was this simply just about leverage so when you think about it the Lakers are two and a half weeks out from the NBA draft they’re three weeks away from free agency no but Shams to me and we got to get to the rest of it on the other side but Shams to me the issue with what he’s saying is he was not the number one candidate from Jump Street but that doesn’t matter because they offered him I mean it matters because W had initi had con out and said essentially discrediting everything Shams had said about JJ being the candidate because that was all the the talk was JJ and James bgo and then W comes out and says bump all that that’s not true Dan Hurley has actually been number one behind the scenes this entire time so Shams is arguing Shams is arguing that he had JJ reck yeah as number one right he’s just saying that even before like Dan Hurley jumped in the process in the middle versus Ro is saying no there was always was him and Sham is saying no he came out of no and just kind ofed bag and we’ll talk about the W side of this and why W and danur was W who wrote that book by the way okay why they would do this yeah maybe it’s to get a hashtag tiny Victory Styles and Watkins sack toown Sports subscribe to sack toown Sports on YouTube and watch the Carmichael Dave show with Jason Ross Styles and Watkins and the drive guys live Monday through Friday from 6:00 to 6 plus view archive shows and exclusive content subscribe at youtube.com/ actown Sports I didn’t ask to be thrown in the streets with nowhere to go I didn’t think I’d survive but I did ask for help and Covenant House was there for me one in 10 young 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it’s probably just a yeah hey we brought three extra jerseys why not what if it just a coach came through and it would have been Gabe kapler well Gabe probably wants to wear some yeah he wants to be in uniforms don’t don’t get me wrong but if there was a coach to just say yeah I’m just not wearing it and hey coach just wanted to know why why you decided not to wear a uniform well because I’m not playing yeah you know I’m not suiting up yeah you guys are suiting up I you know so I’m gonna put a suit on or I guess maybe the question would be what what would they wear jumpsuit you know you could probably get a pullover I because yeah I think NBA coaches have started to wear pullovers instead of instead of Suits there’s plenty there’s plenty of especially now with the new hybrid pants that are big yes oh my God pants yeah just get you some Lulu and lul pull another example of how MLB is messing the bag up like this is an easy sponsor like wnba’s got skims and all that I think the NBA too it’s like come on just just get the bag from Lulu or fabletics or whatever instead you’re 60 years old wearing and they have the pants on too these bad fanatic baseball pants on everyone can see your six-year-old acorns nobody wants to see I hope they don’t wear cleats please don’t wear cleats I hope that at least we can get or something they they don’t they don’t wear cleats no they do not all right as we Contin continue to break down this conspiracy theory now so the other side of this as we get to the W side and what he said last Thursday essentially the whole thing is the win for Dan Hurley is hey tell the Lakers you’re interested or lead them on a little bit you’ll surpass I apparently I maybe I’m not trying to go there but LeBron has said he really likes Dan Hurley kind of a hot I didn’t even think he was necessarily a hot name that’s why only reason I’m bringing up LeBron but he flies past James BGA and JJ reck right he flies past them and and then says I’m actually cool and I saw a report Chris I don’t know if it’s confirmed yet that that now Yukon is coming back and he’s getting a 50 million now a new is the exact number that you said yesterday that is the number that I said yesterday so why would W want to be involved with this well in the battle between Shams and W this it I don’t know if this point would go to w but I I I guess it doesn’t go against him now because hey the guy that I had turned it down so even if JJ’s signs my guy I broke my story with my guy so this they could have all been working in cahoots together this was W last Thursday on Dan Hurley and the situation said this organization became obsessed with Danny Hurley do you know who it was initially that became obsessed it’s Rob Pena you know he has gotten to know Hurley a little bit through talking about draft picks but watched them study and throughout this process that is the coach they’ve been after everybody else has been just essentially do process interviews due diligence they want to get Hurley and they’re hopeful they can lock this and again I’m not so essentially I mean again that’s and that was him last week but that is again him kind of pouring water on Shams as reports the entire time and saying yeah yeah yeah no no no like they did they were looking at at those guys they did interview them but right I mean there it wasn’t you know it was just a a shadow it was you know it was it wasn’t real it was just due process they were just checking some boxes it was just the Rooney Rule or what you know not not but it was it was just them doing an interview for the S interv you open anything right any job opening you have to legally you other people you can’t even if you’re G to hire internally you still have to go through the process you know what this reminds me of of Le Stanfield in sorry to bother you yeah never saw it that famous I’m sure you I know you see thep you have a wonderful day now I want you to have a even better day I hope you have the best day that a brother has ever had the sun is shining yep on your day yeah nice to meet you brother have a good day brother that’s what it reminds me of because I don’t know how often they’re in the same spaces but they’re definitely throwing some some sideways shade at each other and you know I I don’t know how this thing is going to end this is Zack low kind of breaking down the Lakers situation and this is what happens people un people do not want firings on their resume and when you fire I think the most obvious I don’t know what’s worse Chris the firing of Frank vogle I probably Frank vogle because you got the championship gin ham I think a lot of people were iffy on I apparently as far as the Lakers players were concerned but you fire Frank vogle two years after a championship coaches are just going to think well I’m just I got do it’s just a matter of when I’m gonna get fir you know what I mean and and this six years means nothing to me because I’m probably not lasting 60 years because I’m not gonna win a championship right every single year so here is Zack low S Sub suggesting that the Lakers job isn’t that great I wasn’t surprised and I’m less surprised now that W mentions an 8 million figure from Yukon eight versus 12 you you factor in taxes and cost of living the thing shrinks the Gap shrinks and look like he’s got it made in the shade at Yukon despite all the changes in college basketball he’s the king of college basketball the Lakers job is not that great of a job they’re a playin team pretty much every year in a conference that is only getting better all around them from the bottom and the top and the middle it’s a fight every year just to get out of the play and LeBron is almost 40 what’s the vision for this team after LeBron leaves yeah they have Anthony Davis that’s great they have Austin Reed some other things like you’re not staring at a no-brainer Championship window now the line every coach gets fired I don’t care how many years they have left on their contract two three years down the line they get fired and you know it’s easy to say someone’s coming a Superstar’s coming and and maybe that will be the case we’re not that far removed from the Lakers being a straight up bad team for a five or six years I just don’t think this is that great of a job and it’s not I don’t I don’t think the Lakers should be embarrassed that Dan Hurley turned them down yeah they got public and that’s a little I guess embarrassing but don’t get a good coach I mean I love to hear that I love every single word of that I might tattoo it on my arm or something JJ reick come on down I mean that’s and that’s maybe you know I think we’re we’re viewing it as you know the Lakers going out and and making uh you know a bold move or something like that but maybe to everything Zack low just laid out maybe and everything you just kind of said about Frank vogle maybe it’s more of that’s the situation they’re in to where they don’t they can’t really get your conventional coaches you know Co coing Carousel guys because like you said these dudes talk Frank vogle I’m sure talks to other coaches and Darin ham was a well-respected assistant and you see how Laker fans and the Lakers I wouldn’t call it their media but just I would mainly call it their fans just ripped their coaches apart yeah they completely leave them naked and and alone uh by the end of it and I don’t know how many people want to voluntarily sign up for that deal when like Zack L said there’s 29 other teams that don’t have that level of baggage of course don’t have it it works both ways you also don’t have that level of attention but in today’s day and age like OKC gets coverage I don’t think you necessarily have to look at that Lakers situation and say that’s the only way I’m GNA put my name on the map it might not be that that attractive of a job I’m not saying it’s a bad job but it it might not really be The Shining glowing perfect you know Duke head coaching job that I think everybody more so Southern California people think it is it’s a circus yeah it’s a circus out there and you’re setting yourself up you you you just have to hope especially now you don’t know how much longer LeBron’s gonna play you can’t count on Anthony Davis you have Austin Reeves who I like Austin Reeves you really like Austin Reeves I don’t know what to do with Austin Reeves Ru hamura yeah ruy haimura took a step back so I don’t know what what is the foundation’s gone now right you don’t want DLo but you need somebody replace him so you don’t even know what you’re walking into and I get it’s LA but to me it’s the question of I think if LeBron was what is he 39 now if LeBron was 36 I think this is a bit of a no-brainer sure but 39 any year could be his last any year could be his last you’re left with the pieces and now I gotta handle Brony who is really a two-way player but you’re refusing to let him play two-way even though you just want him to live a normal life and and not have to live in the shadow of his father so miss me with that it’s a complete mess let’s go to Jr quickly before we get to the other side and start our King’s coverage for the other side of Sasha venkov in that story Jr let me guess what do you want to talk about the baseball pants what do you want to talk about Jr well first of all yeah I will tell you the reason they wear is because they used to play so you always had to have your manager yeah play they started and they used to start that that’s that’s the H thing but the interview process it’s true though I mean I was a manager no I’m just kidding uh so the Step Brothers interviews are are more in line with the movie I was thinking of hey pam pam this Pam situation oh I’ll tell you though as a coach for Hurley why would you leave he owns it’s kind of like saving in Alabama he owns the state of Connecticut I mean what else is there to do there catch a crab once in a while yeah I mean come on yeah those lobster rolls again lobster rolls bring back the but anything you put butter on days better oh snails Lobster this Show’s great I love you guys bye bye love thanks Jr gotta get to the other side and when we get back another report a smaller report on Sasha venkov that came out the same day why did he get overlooked is it credible and what did they have to say Styles and Watkins zown Sports on the Move got somewhere it be take Sacramento Kings basketball with you the sack toown sports hat will let you stay connected to your passion never miss a moment of Sacramento Kings basketball with the sack toown Sports app hey it’s Carmichael day for my good friends at American Energy now I’ve told you this before but this is what we call extending a good deal right now American energy heat and air is offering an HVAC diagnostic for $99 oh wait I’m sorry never mind they’re offering it free it’s a $99 value but you get it for zero let the American Energy team test your system connections and all the moving parts of that system to ensure that 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the large conversation that we had and the question marks as far as Sasha venkov and Sasha saying to the Kings hey I want out how do we make this happen that same day Mato andreani from basketball baske inside.com which it’s in it’s I’m translating the bio now online since 2010 offers visitors are continuously updated service on basketball from all over the world okay this person Mato andreani 16,000 followers I know in elon’s Twitter it’s a bit hard to confirm what is and what isn’t but not to gloss it over WHYY gleon brought it to our attention or highlighted it towards the end of the show that Matteo on the same day right before the larger from Euro league.com or eurobasket.com came out right before that Mato andreani said Sasha venkov has been informed that he’s not on Sacramento Kings plans for next season I’m told bov’s priority is to say in the NBA Kings will try to trade him Sasha venkov signed a three-year $20 million contract last year that’s from Matteo andreani so there are a couple options here Chris there is an issue with the translation there is the possibility that the Kings didn’t want this to get out and only Matteo got it and the third option is just wrong place wrong time for Mato and his story got bulldozed I’m looking at all the comments and people had some questions Mato didn’t respond to anybody he also just moved on with the coverage I’m seeing multiple people tag Sacramento media members to say hey did you see this side of it nobody is really ran with it although when we when we saw who was it Zach Zack Smith Chris when when the reports came out he said oh oh Keith Smith Keith Smith their other sides of this as well there are some conflicting reports as far as whether or not the Kings talked to Sasha before Sasha talked to the Kings you alluded to maybe it wasn’t direct to Sasha but they could have alluded to hey we’re not really sure where you fit in so we we wanted to just make sure we were getting all angles of this and you know as as far as we know this is what this person has confirmed obviously based on what we’re seeing he’s not in the states he is in the UK or he’s in Europe somewhere so it’s kind of hard to break down what is and what isn’t true but it felt like the right thing to do to at least run this through the the the Gambit as well I don’t think that there’s much controversy I just think Matteo is correct I I don’t again like yesterday I I the situation I laid out is ex I just what Matteo is reporting makes the most sense like I mean I don’t even think it’s that it’s that uncommon I think it’s a really common thing for again in exit interviews when when the GMS and the coach meet with every single individual player at the end of the season they go over how the season went what the goals were going into the season what they want you to work on during the off season and a lot of times in those conversations it’s a brutally honest talk about where you are and and what your role is with the team and what you feel and and that’s kind of the time when everything is let out I just think in that meeting Sasha was told hey this didn’t go the way I think either of us thought it would we’re going to pursue other options we think that we would much rather move forward with Trey ly and we’re going to try and find you a place where yeah they’ll get you some playing time but I also don’t think that that’s necessarily 100% what the kings are going to do like I think in in terms of especially looking for a Sasha location like I think he might just be thrown into like I said yesterday Kyle kosma trade an Alex kuso Zack LaVine trade I just think that it almost guarantees that the Kings will make a move and Sasha is going to be a part of it somehow I I I don’t really think that this is uh I I just kind of think that every there’s a misunderstanding of how NBA is operated versus how things are done overseas and they think that players have power here that they just don’t have but you don’t think it’s you don’t think it’s weird that nobody else brought the king side of this up everything that we saw on S but everything that so do you think it was just assumed no I think it’s Sasha sourcing I think it’s Sasha or his agent being the ones that are telling these overseas reporters the Kings don’t have connection points overseas and so the fact that this comes out from multiple reporters overseas tells me that probably Sasha’s agent released this information to them for whatever reason I don’t have a reason why but I I just think that this is the agent telling these guys they packaged it differently right to they said they’re saying it sof the Sasha side yes we told the kings were not interested but but which I’m it also could be true it could be Sasha it could be a mutual thing where Sasha walks in and says I wasn’t happy at all this year like you’ve heard and the King’s saying cool we weren’t happy either let’s just let’s make this clean so technically right technically Matteo Matteo is just more correct about the process of this thing others reported it as if Sasha is the one that’s dictating things when in reality if the Kings but the Kings can keep him is the difference that the reports were making it sound as if Sasha’s not requesting a trade not demanding a Sasha is going to move teams that was kind of the reporting that that everyone else was out there saying that Sasha is going to go seek a different situation or he’s gonna ask to be released from his contract um yeah doesn’t sash the reporting from uh one of the reporters Sasha fenov has informed Sacramento Kings that he doesn’t intend to return for a second season of his contract that wording makes it sound as if he’s going to go overseas and forgo his contract say I’m not playing in the NBA I’m gonna go to my own situation control my own destiny which yeah he cannot do he cannot play for a team overseas while under contract with an NBA team he’s got to be cut or traded and then cut or traded and then worked out you know had some understanding with the new team but he is not in charge in this situation and the reporting from everybody except for Mato was that Sasha seems to have some level of control over this right and Matteo was just saying the Kings could the Kings could have said this a a month ago months ago probably did right and obviously they’re not gonna put this information out because they want leverage in a trade they want teams to think that they’re still interested in Sasha and Sasha’s Camp decided hey they told us this let’s try to time this right and we can spin it in a different way so that maybe a team that’s interested in Sasha would want to do business with the Kings for whatever it’s worth if it’s all because it’s already shot it’s already it’s O it’s over as far as Sasha is concerned as far as what he initially thought this was gonna be so let’s see what we can salvage I guess and make it seem like we have we’ll just try to repackage it and the Kings aren’t gonna say the Kings don’t really care yeah I mean I don’t even know if there’s any malicious intent here I just kind of feel like it’s loose lips I I don’t think that this is Sasha’s agent trying to get leverage or anything because they can’t they can’t make a trade until after The Season’s done anyway so there’s not really much of a strategic play in terms of the timing of it so so okay so you don’t think that Sasha’s Camp said we’re gonna drop this Saturday no somebody with a big mouth I think so yeah that’s that’s what it feels like to me um unless someone could I just can’t find what the leverage would be from their standpoint well Nei neither could Keith Smith nobody could yeah so I just kind of think that you know guys ask you know it’s probably a situation where they you know those reporters haven’t been around Sasha in about a year and we’re probably just asking for updates and uh they got one they they definitely got some sound bites from the former Euroleague MVP yeah I think that Sasha will get moved I don’t know if it’ll be part of the a monster deal or if it’ll be a side deal but I I think the Kings want to do right by Sasha not to say that they’ve done wrong by Sasha but I think he still has some value and somebody will take a a flyer on him there are enough teams that just like everybody needs pitching in in baseball everybody always needs a shooter oh yeah so I think Sasha a movement shooter good length just doesn’t really have an opportunity let me ask you this real quick yeah as far as Trey lyes is concerned and I know you were the the mayor the captain of the Trey Bays is there any and you we’ve seen more from Trey ly defensively Trey ly isn’t a stopper no right he’s I would say he’s better than Sasha venkov but I don’t think he’s a shut down guy either is there any thought in your mind that you would maybe rather keep Sasha than Trey just to see maybe yeah I think the shooting is definitely really intriguing like if he can figure it out um Sasha can I I think that there’s potential for something exciting um but I do wonder if Trey is just more of like a winning player if that’s if I can use that cliche um course yeah I mean you know I just kind of feel like he’s he’s a little bit more gritty you know he’s he’s diving on the balls and he’s the king’s grit guy right now if anyone’s going to get into a fight we all know it’s Trey that’s going to be the one that everyone thinks is going to step Yeah by default one time because that literally that one time two years ago like this is what we have to hang on to um so I think there’s just like other intangible things he’s a good rebounder um I think just Trey has more things that a coach would say you know I can fall back on like if Tre shooting isn’t there he could still be a good rebounder than Sasha EX think that’s the perfect way of putting it Sasha to me is just a DH where if you don’t have shooting on a given night he can come in he can light it up possibly or he can continue to Just Jack them up and and miss him just like everybody else um I think that’s kind of where the the the separation begins is you know Trey just is a little bit more of a little bit more of a Swiss army knife and Sasha is a little bit more pigeon hole than what he can do yeah we will see how that all unfolds but the whole thing is it’s fascinating to me simply because that was such a name really by default because the Kings essentially ran it back so I think that added to the Sasha I guess lore if you will because this is our shining this is all we have we’re running it back but we’re adding this Euroleague MVP and it just didn’t work out and it didn’t work out I are you a bit surprised at all quickly are you a bit surprised that Sasha he is 28 yeah are you a little bit surprised that he didn’t just kind of keep it pushing for one more year yeah for sure I mean I guess if the king said something to him that’s why right yeah let’s say let’s say they didn’t yeah I think so um I mean yeah to not treat it with kid gloves like I would I would kind of want him to be a little bit more professional about it like I think I it’s kind of tough because I do understand his side of things too because of the whole recruiting pitch like if somebody is traveling across the country if an NBA team the best in the world is traveling across the world to come get me to play with you there’s a certain level of expectation of like all right we’re going to we’re like gonna cater to me to an extent and like really try and make this thing work and I think he understood that or quickly came to learn that there’s no special treatment and I I kind of think that I think that upset him a lot and I I just kind of think you know you’re you’ve been in you’ve been a professional your entire life in terms of you know you you’ve literally played in the pros since you were 16 17 years old I would have hoped that he he had a better grasp of the business and and the fact that you know yeah like you know you’ve you’ve been in situations before to where you know you were in a smaller club and then you sign with Barcelona and then you have to come off the bench for Barcelona for a year before you get like a a footing you know you have to learn the system before you’re before you’re thrown in there it’s you know I don’t expect Sasha to understand like you know quarterbacks but but it’s like you know you draft a rookie quarterback you got to give him some time to learn the offense a bit and to spread you know J.J McCarthy’s not probably not going to start week one so I think it’s it’s the fact that he didn’t quite I think there was a miscommunication in in how he was going to be handled and uh I think I would have of course liked for him to to get another year because I still think if he goes to a different situation I just think it’s gonna be a repeat of this season unless it’s just a really bad team that just throws him out there yeah he he’s starting not all over but pretty much coming up next 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because he bothers people Carl Anthony towns this is from Sam Amo senior NBA writer for Hoops wire there is a report that the Knicks are 100% expected to pursue Carl Anthony towns if the timber make him available the Warriors are on that list as well nothing connected to the Kings yet Chris but Carl Anthony towns we talked a little bit about it last week wanted to get more in depth today as far as his contract situation and what he brings to a team don’t know what his contract is what he brings to a team and and what he doesn’t bring to a team and whether or not it would be a good fit so here you go Carl Anthony towns and this is interesting if these are I’ve never seen this in purple on uh spot Trak they’re estimates right so the estimates are 49 49 mil next season 53 mil the season after that then 57 mil then a player option for 61 million and yeah in 2024 I think it starts next season in 2024 2025 you will earn a base salary of 40 9 million that’s what I’m seeing here the Timberwolf signed Town 4year 221 in July 22 um huh yeah I mean that’s that’s that’s the price of one Elite Carl Anthony towns that’s the problem you’re paying him like a superstar he better be one well that just started because that no that’s kind of crazy though they signed him in 2022 so they’ve they’ve known this this bill is coming all year long that’s why they want to move him now that’s what I’m hearing that’s that’s what it is I mean I hear the same thing it could be cat it could be Jaden McDaniels he did a similar thing as well it seems like one of these dudes is going to move especially if that A-Rod groups takes over I’m pretty sure that they said their first uh order of business is going to be cutting salary those are two really big salaries a player option at the age of 32 for 61 million he just accepted it right that’s inane now with that being said pretty hefty price tag yes for a guy who what would you call Carl Anthony towns in the league top 20 uh I wouldn’t um yeah I don’t know man I think he’s he’s top 50 um I I don’t know I don’t know where exactly I would have him falling I mean I would have him top 50 yeah I’m I mean I’m not a cek I’m not no you’re not and I am so here you go if you like when Chris and I argue yeah I you’re GNA like this I just I mean we can look at you know maybe some of the the NBA top 100 rankings and things like that but I think Carl Anthony towns is a very very skilled offensive player I do think he’s a good shooter he’s a good floor spacer but one of the best he he just kind of lacks that that dominance like he’s not a number one option four-time All-Star two-time all NBA yep Rookie of the Year all rookie team his career he’s averaged 22.9 points 10.8 rebound and 3.2 assists on 52% shooting 39.8 from three great numbers 83% from the field he uh excuse me free throw he is number 27 on the ringer top 100 so there you go he 27 yes he is in between uh Damen Lillard and Lori marinan so do with that information what you will he is also below Deus sabonis and dearon fox in that list which I was pretty much going to say uh I think he would be the king’s I mean he would be their second offensive option but I think in terms of impact he would probably be the king’s third most impactful player yeah and I’m and I’m not paying $50 million for that I’ll tell you that right now and I don’t know what team should I mean in Minnesota I think again he’s probably the third most important option I would say uh you know absolutely Anthony Edwards I would say Rudy goar what he brings on the defensive end is probably just as if not more important than what cat does on offense like and you know he does have a role I don’t me make want it to sound like cat is a bum it’s just for what a what you’re going to pay him to do but B I think when he walks through the door the level of expectation for the guy that he could be isn’t going to be the guy that he is and I think that’s kind of the problem with him I just don’t see him maxing out what his potential is yeah and we saw certain teams on this list like the Warriors I have no clue how the Warriors would pay him that money well not if they’re not ever going to get rid of Andrew Wiggins right well that well that’s the has to be it well that’s the homecoming for Andrew Wiggins but again why would I don’t think mines well it would be wig again even kaminga in that situation do does Minnesota need kaming what does Minnesota need what does Minnesota need that the either the Kings have or one of these suitors has when you think about the pro they need a score they need a point guard they can use a point guard for sure I mean I think that’s why I keep saying the cat Trey young thing makes so much sense for me one for one um and then what what are you doing in Atlanta deante and catl of Misfit Toys I guess yeah I don’t really I don’t but that’s yeah I mean it’s it’s getting at least a an equal talent for your talent and maybe you can adjust later um yeah I mean I don’t think for Atlanta that’s really a solution at all it just kind of seems like you’re shifting a problem um but you know yeah I mean if you’re if you’re Minnesota I think you you do at some point need a Mike Conley replacement as especially longterm uh and if you’re going to take away cat you probably yeah you’re probably going to need another offensive weapon of some sort you need a cheaper it sounds like what they want is a cheaper scoring option yeah whether that be because you can get a we just talked about point guards but a scoring point guard is tough yeah so you’re either looking for a scoring Wing because you have your defensive wings or a another scoring guard you don’t have another but the issue but what’s funny is cat is a scorer yeah for sure so why do you why do you have to move off cat unless you just don’t want to pay him I think it’s the frustration that he brings I think it’s the the softness I think it’s the defensive mishaps I think it’s um yeah I mean I think it’s just the fact that he’s not the guy that you want him to be I I do really think that that’s really what it comes down to is he’s just not he’s not that guy pal like I just think he’s he he should be but he’s not and I think that leads to a lot of frustration what would you think of and I’m trying to make the best of both teams like a Michael Porter Jr swap of of some not swap but like a a Michael Porter Jr to to Minnesota and then maybe cat goes to Denver I mean the scary part of your Minnesota is adding that level of offensive weapon to joic could be really dangerous that’s some Twin Towers two SF Footers um but like that’s the kind of guy I mean to your point like a cheaper scoring option that that would be the kind of guy that maybe I would look after because you have to look for a certain caliber if you’re going to replace cat yeah you can’t just bring in Jordan Clarkson or something and and expect him to to fill that level of scoring role you still have to get another semi Elite to really good player to replace that production and you know that’s what makes this thing tough but someone will want cat I mean I know the report says the Knicks are going to be 100% in on him but I don’t I don’t think Julius Randall really does it I if I’m Minnesota I wouldn’t want Julius Randle as the replacement for cat Dollar Store cat right I mean I feel like that’s a generic store cat I me you might as well just pay cat top dollar and you are you know the devil you know is better than the devil you don’t and Julius Rand with these injuries these last couple years and he’s got T-Rex arms I that the one thing I remember from that draft that Julius R had short arms very short arms y yep and I I don’t know where uh what the Knicks would do with cat E I mean you know yeah I think Kat and Brunson would be really really fun I don’t think he’s really a Tom tip kind of tibs had cat actually now that I think about it in Minnesota I you know I don’t know I I wasn’t super familiar with how cat uh how cat and tip’s relationship was but he just doesn’t feel like you know if you think of that Nicks team this year cat just personality wise doesn’t really fit on it so you know I don’t know I I think he’s definitely gonna have a lot of suitors Miami I think is a team definitely to look out for with cat but um you know I I just think especially from the King side I mean that that’s way too much money and if you’re Golden State I mean yeah it raises the question of who are you who are you giving up to get him because you seriously might have to give up pretty much every everybody else besides death coming up next it’s time do you want Iron Man Lon do you want Kavon elijuan on the Kings sou Watkins tack Down Sports dear Fox plays here stolen by Fox Breakaway coming up for dear and a simple casual fight for the left hand things lead by three sack toown Sports is your proud home of the Sacramento Kings I remember as if it were yesterday I reached down to move a nightstand and was 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and he says I’m I’m I’m a number one recruit you’re you’re a P4 you’re a P4 until you’re a P1 Sasha thought he was a P1 and you know he had to work his way and he said I think think I’m cool on that that was beautiful I love that call back thank you yeah yeah drum line great great movie I only know the walls sits that’s the only reference I feel like i’ I feel like I didn’t watch the movie feel like I just like popped in for that one scene in the rain in the rain I remember I do I like had nightmares about I was like have you ever had to do them uh I think like during like football summer practices yeah I had to do fall wall sits when I was doing karate and was to get either the yellow belt or the orange belt and you have to do a wall sit whatever I mean it probably in my mind it felt like five minutes probably the sticks out no I didn’t have the yeah numchucks out that’s somebody gonna say that’s not karate something like something like that all right as we get into Kavon Looney this is from Evan cery friend of the friend of the station future friend of the show and this is per Tim kawakami Kavon Looney will likely be released by The Warriors to save money on their tax bill only three million of Looney’s 8 million salary is guaranteed until it fully locks on June 24th the Warriors have all these non-guaranteed deals this has been their their glitch in the system if Looney is released expect plenty of interest you know Chris obviously I was out there in the bay so yeah Kavon Looney and you Sacramento Kings are very familiar with Kavon Looney from a couple years ago and if Looney is released expect plenty of Interest essentially what happened this season is The Warriors are trying to figure out what worked what didn’t it feels like Looney’s stick has kind of run out of rope here in in the bay and you have Trace Jackson Davis who came in and played really well you you didn’t have Draymond then you got Draymond back so the combination of that with these wings with these wings that Kavon Looney is getting switched on he has literally no offensive bag he’s not an a scorer at all he has no offensive moves so I’ve it’s always been incredible to me for the Warriors to run out Draymond and Kavon Looney for as long as they did it seems like that had that road has come to an end Kavon Looney is a great Champion for the Warriors and I guess that there will be some interest if you’re looking for a rebounder that is I would still say fairly above average on defense if he gets the right matchup right on switches I think he is less of an issue than other bigs he can move his feet by the way if you’ve never watched Looney in high school before the hip injuries he was supposed to he they said he might have been Kevin Durant and I know it sounds crazy next time you have some free time check out check out his mixa from high school it was incredible and to a lesser degree at at UCLA it was incredible the dude was cooking so now Chris I see Kings fans saying Kevon Looney would love to bring him in on a minimum deal I don’t know when Evan Cy says there’ll be plenty of Interest I don’t know if Kevon Looney will get more than a minimum deal right personally I’m not even going to tease anymore I don’t understand why the Kings would want Kevon Looney I don’t really get why and I and I know fans in general just want everybody sure and I don’t know how much Kings fans watched Kevon Looney besides that Series where he grabbed 25 rebounds a game and played out of his mind I don’t know why the Kings would want Kevon Looney I don’t know what that does I think it’s just a you know it’s it’s kind of a well it’s it’s crazy actually as I’m looking at he’s 28 years old I know I was gonna say a hard literally was going to suggest he could be this season’s Javale McGee you know kind of be the guy who’s been there done that can be more of a you know a vocal presence than like helping out but at 28 years old I mean ideally unless you’re you’re paying truly like a vet minimum for him you you’d like to get some sort of production out of him and you know I think I think there could be something there but I mean you you said something in the pre-show of you could just play Alex lenmore too you know I think that might be a better solution because I do think a lot of the things you want from Looney you know is fine Alex Len can do is a lob threat as well exactly like Looney 68 69 maybe and he has got credit card hops so I I kind of feel like unless you and the Kings could definitely use some rebounding but let’s try and think of when cavon looney would play not where but when he would play he was playing 16 minutes a game for Golden State last year he’s been around anywhere from 13 to 20 minutes for them I can’t see if he’s going to be the one backing up sabonis well is he running the dribble handoffs because you know they I I just don’t know really what what he’s going to out there doing besides rebounding and I mean that’s that’s a great skill for sure but I just feel like um the kings are in a position like Mike Malone said earlier this year you gotta have you got to be able to do more than one thing when you’re out there and if Looney’s one thing is is rebounding and then okay defense I I just think I we can look at other places for guys um who might also be able to to solve our Rim protection problem if cavon Looney was a good rim protector or an elite rim protector this would be a different conversation but I think just bringing in the rebounding it’s not enough for me to to get excited and say no we have to go get cavon Ludy yeah we could but it’s you know I’m not gonna be super excited vet minimum sure we can have the conversation I’m just thinking about the offense right and I do think that there is a little bit of familiarity there the Kings aren’t running exactly what the Warriors are running Kone is a saon he would yes he would be I don’t have a I don’t have any worries about Kavon Looney understanding the offense I think My worry is I think maybe I’m having some flashbacks about how poorly the King shot this season and now putting out someone who at least Alex Len has some like I said lob threat some some sort of a offensive bag Kevon Looney you you go out there and you just don’t have to pay attention to him yeah you know he’s had some he’s 28 but that’s a hard there all 28s aren’t created equal and I would say the thing about iron feet right you call him Iron Man they they got lead in his shoes exactly so you know that here’s a guy who you’re you’re trying to fit into this fit into this roster and he didn’t get I put it to you like this he didn’t get time on the team that you beat right to to go to the next playing game he didn’t get time on a 10 seed that needed a center yeah that needed a center they decided to go with Trace Jackson Davis as the backup to to Draymond and the really he would have got even less time if Draymond wasn’t choking fools out and and and slapping dudes so Kevon Looney whatever his minutes were helicopter slap yeah whatever his minutes were you know you go on Mortal Kombat on him whatever Kevon Looney’s minutes were that’s also in part due to Draymond not being there so he would have played even less if Draymond was there more so I think that he was just straight up getting dmps last year wasn’t yeah he was and they started Trace Jackson Davis a couple times too so I think the game as far as how much he can bring to the game I don’t want to say it’s pass him by but I think there’s a probably a place for him yeah I don’t know why that would be the Sacramento Kings no he feels like uh Miami you know like he’s that kind of guy or you know I feel like the Blazers always randomly get a ton of like those maybe I’m just thinking of gp2 but like these these warrior king castoffs seem for whatever reason to go up North um there’ll be a team maybe he’ll go to the Bucks like he’s from Wisconsin we talked about that yesterday yeah if especially if they lose a guy like Bobby poris not that he does what Bobby poris does but similar frame similar size um you know could maybe fill in there there’s G to be a rollf for he’s the three-time champion too someone will sign him oh someone maybe even Lakers might sign him like I I just don’t know in terms of impact which is when we’re here in Sacramento that’s the thing that we have to worry for first and foremost about we’re not really in the the luxury piece uh place in our development yet we need guys who if we’re going to sign them what exactly are you bringing to me and Looney is a great screener he’s a great rebounder but I I just kind of feel like the Kings need need more than that from their only big man out there because they’re not running two bigs at once if Looney’s gonna be out there for the Kings he’s gonna be the only big man out there and I think they need somebody who does a little bit more than just what he does Dennis youngl likes Looney over Len due to the durability Len always gets hurt 82 games 82 games 74 games last three seasons for Kavon Looney give me that Iron Man please and that’s with the playoffs so Dennis Young Blood on the sack chat would take Kevon Looney or Alex Len but the problem is you still have Alex Len so unless you’re gonna move off of Alex Len and then BR I I’m telling you I don’t think that this offense can handle Kevon Looney as the backup again he could not get time on the 10 seed that that’s what we’re talk a and a team that he’s been with for years so they wanted to give him time and and Draymond wasn’t playing that that that that that’s about it for me all right coming up next we have a conversation as far as in andout and the prices getting jacked up also Prospect vers Prospect young player versus young player one in the bay one out here in the state capital who would you take who is going to have a better career Sal Watkins sdown sports did you miss any part of our live local shows don’t worry you never have to miss them again check 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sack toown Sports talk to Frankie cardelli our sack toown Sports Kings Insider and I saw him outside Chris during the break and I said what did you think about the Looney situation he’s writing a piece so you’re going to want to check that out on Sactown sports.com and and he said honestly he thinks that the physicality of Kevan Looney would be nice but again we have bigger fish to fry and we already we already know that but as far as getting Kevon Looney that’s fine but I’m still eating a Carolina Reaper if that’s all you’ve added the Kings have bigger issues than the backup center and really it just depends on what type of player you want but Frankie essentially said between Len and Looney he feels like it’s a wash they both do two different things yeah yeah I mean you know I wouldn’t say one is I mean I’ll probably say Looney has a better reputation around the league than Alex Len um but yeah I mean it it kind of is a pick your favorite ice cream kind of thing where it just kind of depends what you value and cake batter cake batter is so good so especially the Cold Stone yeah I’m big big fan I’m right there batter with cookie dough that’s what I okay getting a little childish and next you’re gonna say you put Fruity Pebbles on them and some gummy bear cake batter it’s all the same thing no it is you’re not you’re not wrong um yeah yeah I for the most part definitely agree with Frankie that they just they do different things and you know I the problem is and I I guess I shouldn’t say problem but the thing is uh I definitely it makes a lot of sense so this is something where you know I wouldn’t be shocked at all if cavon Looney is a king just because of the Mike Brown connection I mean I just think it makes a whole lot of sense and you know we’re all humans and Doc Rivers more so than anybody Falls victim to somebody kills you one year and then you go out and sign them and I I can definitely see it not being a long meeting when they say hey what do you guys think of cavon Looney everybody’s probably just gonna laugh and say yeah we we know what cavon Looney can do so it probably wouldn’t be that big of a sell uh if they are even remotely interested right and it depends on the price tag last season totally to tyo on it last season Kavon Looney 4.5 points per game 5.7 rebounds per game 1.8 assists on 59% shooting he played 74 games averaged 16 minutes the good thing about Looney is he’s probably the biggest definition of knowing your role oh yes he is not over stepping any bound I’m going to tell you something right now though if you get annoyed with sabonis finishing at The Rim I can’t wait if if the Kings get Looney I have I already sit next to you anyway but I will just be staring at you when he smokes the thing that’s staring at me is career 61 and a half percent from the line also will he fit right in yeah he would fit right in he’ll fit right in from the eight through one if this is the case I would rather kick the tires on capella as a backup B that price tag is gonna be a little bit different and again I the only reason we did this is because Kavon Looney’s name came up he’s a champion he gave it to sabonis a couple years ago but I the LA backup center is not on my mind unless you’re talking about somebody who’s gonna be able to stretch the floor like one Brook Lopez or somebody like that but all these centers that are inside the arc and don’t really have a offensive bag I just we can talk about it after you make the big deal and part of making that big deal is going to take someone from the Kings or a couple players from the Kings but the question is who and Keegan Murray has been viewed as an Untouchable same with Jonathan kaminga in the Bay area so I had a little bit of fun Chris on social media because with my background I have followers right from both sides so I don’t know if if it’s the sac I don’t know if this is the Sacramento peeps starting to take over my feed and my following and Warrior fans saying this guy’s Sacramento now I don’t want to deal with it but I have some numbers here and Simone you can get in on this as well I said who’s going to be better when it’s all said and done Jonathan kaminga who is age 21 or Keegan Murray who is age 23 Simone’s answering some phones right now but we’ll start with You Chris I I mean it’s such a tough thing of like almost it’s almost a bigger question of you know do you believe what you’re seeing with your eyes right right now or are you somebody that that is looking a little bit into the future and and sees you know that kaminga is building a foundation of something that is going to you know benefit him moving forward right you know my feelings on kaminga I I think I think Keegan is going to be a better Pro and I only say that because I’ve seen more of I’ve seen more of Keegan obviously in terms of games viewed but also in terms of like I just feel like Keegan is expanding what he does a little bit more and I think if you are a shooter you’re just going to have a lot more leeway you’re going to have a bigger uh a a bigger Gap in terms of how bad you can be I think and um you know I think kinga’s got to develop his shot like he’s great around the rim but even Jaylen Brown had to learn how to shoot like at least a little bit and I don’t know if I see that for kaminga I know he’s so he’s still so young but all I’m seeing from kaminga really is is his scoring ability and his ability to just be an athlete around the rim I haven’t seen a ton more of the development but the argument could the counter could be he grew so much from year 20 to year 21 yeah what do you expect from year 21 to 22 and moving forward I think you should feel really good about what you just saw from Jonathan kaminga last season for the Warriors my struggle with honestly my struggle with kaminga which is similar to Keegan Murray in a way is is kaminga as everybody says there are dudes in this league who need a role there are dudes in this league who are just dudes and they can do whatever they want yes everybody thinks they have a dude right we did we did Keegan Murray Jason Tatum conversations and Chris almost pulled a Kyle Draper and walked out of the studio so we understand all that kaminga I don’t know I don’t think the Warriors know yeah and honestly they hope they they think that he’s a dude but I think in your opinion what you just described to you know who you just described to me he’s still playing who Derrik Jones Jr that’s who you just describ which is disrespectful I mean I think well yeah I almost disrespected derck Jones and said I think kaminga might be a better athlete but I don’t think that’s even true no and and I think I think Warrior fans they see you get a high flyer in there and everybody thinks oh my goodness this is the truth but they forget that they’re a bunch of every every team besides the Kings has one of those highflying wings so that that that’s kind of the situ but with Keegan as well there’s also the question of hey is he in the Michael Porter J path or or Klay Thompson or he’s just gonna be a shooter or how big is his bag supposed to get or should he just focus on what he does well right so I think both guys Keegan a couple years older than Jonathan kaminga the organizations that they are that they are connected to and and who they currently are they need to figure out who are you gonna be yeah you’re just going to be a really good version of uh I’m a I’m a three and D guy or are you going to try to be a dude so I I think that’s the tough thing who do you think the the voters swayed with and Simone we’ll get your thoughts on who you think won this round as well I would hope that your Sacramento contingency is starting to take over I’ll say I mean I’ll say Keegan because I do think that there’s I think there’s a large percentage of Kings fans that are in on Keegan and I do think that there is a certain percentage of Warrior fans that are also down on kaminga so I I’m goingon to say 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Harrison Barnes Prime yeah the number is very familiar but 530 Kings fans would Riot I’d see that would be very sad I think for Kings fans if that if he’s not as good as Harrison Barnes let’s see you could say Harrison barnes’s Prime in terms of when he was getting his best numbers were his three years in Dallas or his two and a half years in Dallas uh and in those two and a half Seasons he was 18 a game five rebounds shot 36% from the field uh from three 44% from the field he did that for a couple years pretty much he did that for two and a half years uh and he was 24 to 26 if Keegan doesn’t get there you will look back and say man we should have moved him for somebody that also was like the Dallas situation was you know if we’re going to just look at numbers will Keegan ever peek at that it’s a little also unfair because HB was like the only player on those really bad Dallas teams and then Keegan as it’s currently constructed will never be more than second or third option on this team so it’s it’s all not all created equal Also let’s get to TC who’s been waiting patiently 9163 39140 TC what’s up man what you got for us Allan and Chris what’s up what’s up what’s up what’s up just Ving someone good looking man thank you hey so look check it out hey I gotta disagree kind of with you Alan know hey y’all know y my boy but I gotta disagree so Center has to be one of the things that you got to worry about I get it like we want to worry about the trade and that’s like an after thought but we can’t like Overlook that you get me like that’s something like honestly I think Looney’s gonna be a king the Warriors release him might goonna make that call and Looney to be a king and we need somebody like a looney just imagine Looney and doas on the boards bro because I was talking about going to get drummy but if Looney is available you don’t really need to go get drumond because you can get Looney for what one or two million and he’ll fit perfectly bro but you need side though that’s what I was talking about bringing L back or and if we didn’t tra the 13 pick I wouldn’t be opposed to drafting a Zach bro no matter how you look at it I don’t care about the small ball you need seven Footers on your team so when you have to go big you can go big and when you need to rebound you need to rebound the small ball is all cool bro but it’s that the days of us getting outrebounded is over bro so you need something like a you need that in your back pocket you need at least two seven Footers on your back pocket to we you want to go big on me team we can go big or on a flip side we can go big on you and grab all the defensive offensive rebounds L is a offensive rebound demon doas is a defensive rebound demon those two guys are fit bro but Allan you need a center bro you need a seven-footer we can’t go in an offseason overlooking that position bro you need big bodies we need them thanks for the call TC thanks for the call TC as always well yeah Chris and I’m looking here so Alex lenon was on a one-year deal yeah right so I think the assumption is that the kings were going to bring him back but technically I mean if they didn’t yeah you’re just SWAT you would you wouldn’t have an issue of Alex Len and javil McGee and sabonis it would just be sabonis and Looney yeah um I mean yeah and Looney too I know TC was talking about size there Looney’s only listed at 69 as well so I I know he plays really big but he does not actually you know have the the size to uh to kind of do the things that that TC was kind of outlining there um and you know I’m curious let’s go back to my free agent bigs Target list and tell me if you would rather have these guys over cavon Looney and maybe you know yeah we can maybe discuss because there is some Nuance in all the conversations more so in terms of price point and things like that um you know Jonas valent chunis is probably the prime example of you know would you rather pay Jonas valent chunis 12 million or maybe Looney 3 million we can skip by that one um precious shua I think he’s somebody who’s like a more athletic cavon Looney I think they’re similar size but you look at how precious aoua plays and he plays just to get it he plays more like Kenneth fared though he’s not flying through the air like that but he is he is a bit of a leaper he’s really physical I personally would rather have precious aoua over cavon Looney both are free agents Whitey’s Jaylen Smith he’s a shooter he’s a young guy um he’s a seven-footer as well I would rather take a risk on Jaylen Smith Isaiah haren’s out of the conversation did you see those reports 20 mil Isaiah hardenstein in the year 2024 is apparently going to get a 20 million deal from OKC we’ll see about that TC just mentioned Andre Drummond I’d probably kick the tires on Andre Drummond before uh before cavon Looney uh Mason plumbley you could probably argue that’s a wash Daniel Ty I still would probably rather have Daniel TY but I I think that maybe Looney has the experience Edge over him goo Paz I’m really high on personally Luke cornette again it probably depends on what you’re looking at uh in terms of what you’re wanting Alex Len you’re on the lens side I think I’m on the lens side too Thomas Bryant that’s again kind of to me a wash I’m more trying to point out there’s a lot of different options there it’s not like cavon Looney is the only Center that’s in the Kings price range I just think that there’s going to be other better options and yeah cavon Looney’s fine and if he definitely I think TC’s right he definitely might end up a king I’m not going to be upset about it but personally I would like to explore some of those other options Kings fan on the sack chat is bringing up Nick Claxton and I think it’s just gonna be way out of your price range yeah he is a free agent here’s why not just open this can of worms we’re supposed to talk draft I don’t know we can probably get to it um Zack Ed not at 13 but like I would almost say I’d probably rather Kick the Can on Zack Ed if he’s still there in the second round probably not in the second round maybe even like move up and I don’t know move up or move down just as an example yeah I mean I don’t know again how realistic it is maybe just on its face I would maybe be willing to I would probably are you saying Zack Ed is the first player you take in the draft not saying at 13 but saying you drop down or whatever yeah more just saying for your team situation in general would you rather sign up for your team to test Zach Eed or to sign saying no so Zach okay well or Looney that’s just well then Zach Ed okay yeah no I mean I would take Zack Eed over kvon L yeah yeah that’s it that that’s but I don’t really want either of them that’s I’m more just saying as a as an exercise of how many other options I would rather have or kick the tires on versus L again I just think Looney is if he’s there if he’s available sure why not pick him up the familiarity all of it makes sense but I I would just much rather if the kings are going to heavily pursue a backup center I’m more just saying I think that there’s a lot of options and I think that there is also a decent bit of better options yeah I just yeah I I like Kon Loney I really do and a lot of people didn’t know what was going to happen with his career after those injuries and he turned him he transformed himself into a completely different player yeah with that being said for this king’s team I’d rather bring back Alex Len I mean if you’re if you want to bring in Kevon Looney instead of Alex Len you know to Frankie’s point we can have that conversation you’re not gonna bring both I I don’t I don’t know why I mean no there’d be no reason yeah the and I don’t even really know why there were two this past season with Alex Len and javil McGee so I guess anything is possible yeah I mean I think Alex has just kind of been that breaking case of emergency thing where you know they they were hoping javil would turn out and then it didn’t and they eventually went to Alex Len and we saw the same thing the year before where they literally they went rwn Holmes they went uh you know chimzi metu they went back to rwn Holmes and then they eventually eight games left in the season were like all right I guess we’ll try Alex Len so I guess maybe if Alex wants to sign up for that same situation again where you know yeah maybe they’ll try Looney because he’s young and he’s or younger he’s 28 and you know he’s got the familiarity with Mike Brown it’s almost carbon copy the javil McGee story and maybe if it doesn’t work out again you still have Alex Len there as an option I just at some point would re would like to get this thing squared away like sabonis is on a what four more year contract three Moree contract can we just sign a big that’s going to be sabonis is backup who can understand the role and understand what’s needed from them do you think Alex Lenn will be resigned he could I don’t think that there’s any guarantee he’s he’s like one of the last deals you would get done I would think there’s no like what what would be the urgency in in prioritizing Alex Lind well just to what you said just to get that you have a checklist and it’s not at the top of the checklist but yeah just to make sure okay cool we’re straight here we have our backup center I prioritize that last well I just don’t think they’ve decided don’t think Alex Len they would view as the backup center I think they would view him as the backup to the backup and then again if situation depends he can play for us but the plan is not for him to be we’re not going into the season saying yes Alex Len is our backup and and he doesn’t really have a market at this point where and if he does hey thank you for your service he’s going to Phoenix and gonna play for the vet minimum right right his role would essentially be the same I would think on any team he goes to think so maybe there’s more big needy teams that might give him a bigger opportunity but yeah I mean I wouldn’t think anybody looked at Alex Len last year and is saying like oh yeah he’s gonna be Isaiah hartenstein of this year you know I think everybody kind of knows what Alex Len is at this point and that’s a perfectly fine Center who can give you 13 minutes he’s 30 yeah no I mean he he’s in his prime or you can maybe argue that he’s exiting his prime right now but I think he’s still a usable player he should should still be in the league in my opinion I would think I liked what I saw from Alex Lenn last year yeah I did too I did too that’s why I just assumed he would be back but I think when you do have when you do have a a situation like this and when other players become available I think and we talked about taxes yesterday that best team in the league tax and you know there’s an LA tax there’s probably also a championship tax and I think Kavon is going to get that Championship tax very similar to JTA JTA they won the Warriors won and then JTA got signed to to Los Angeles so the Lakers and it didn’t last very long they got he got there and they said okay this isn’t necessarily what we thought it was and and you know JTA made its way over to the Kings and now he is trying I think he’s you know he’s playing I think still playing in Mexico or something like he’s doing the G league for Mexico City and now you have you know and I think the same thing will happen with Kavon Looney whether or not he he gets into a new building and he is the same guy from 2022 or not that is what remains to be seen and to your point I just think there are a lot of different options that the Warriors or excuse me that the yeah the Warriors and the Kings can can use to get something out of that Center backup center position coming up next we get into espn.com as they lay out the biggest draft needs and value at each spot we’ll tell you what they have to today about the Sacramento Kings thousand Watkins Sactown Sports on the Move got somewhere to be take 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[Music] app no Draft today mock draft break but what we do have still technically a mock draft technically it’s there’s names attached yes yes and this is from espn.com and real quick Chris a little bit of NBA finals news kis christops porzingis is dayto day after suffering a rare help me out here rare torn medial good luck you just tore your Achilles so I was hoping you could figure these words out for me retina colum retina colum retinaculum allow allowing dislocation of the posterior tibialis tendon retinaculum retinaculum I will we got to do the the pronunciation during the break retinaculum retinaculum yeah allowing dislocation of the posterior tibialis tendon yeah just when you hear that what would you say time of recovery is I would say just off of the sound of the injury that sounds like the most cops porzingis injury in the history of injury and but that and that’s the one thing that we haven’t talked about with this guy dayto as Bob Meyers is you know praising the GMS and and all of this and which they deserve it but one thing that we have ignored about christops porzingis is that I would say the reason I would give Brad Stevens credit is because you made a team so good yeah that you could afford to take a because that’s why his price tag was like this a little bit Chris he’s that injury but you have a team that’s so good you can AFF to take that gamble yeah you think Brad Stevens did that deal thinking I know he’s not going to play that much the hope is that he plays the games that matter exactly that was the the whole calculation was yeah Chris porzingis is not gavon Looney he’s not an 82 game player he’s hopefully 60 hopefully and then yeah you just hope that he’s available in the playoffs and you could argue that even that wasn’t really what Chris abs was and he wasn’t available until they literally had to make the finals and I know they kind of moved the schedule along because they were going to sweep uh Indiana but essentially Chris porzingis is lucky that he was on a team that was so good that they literally didn’t need him to get to the finals he can get them over the hump but any other team if you’re banking on Chris Abs if the Kings if you replace sabonis with Chris davs porzingis the Kings aren’t going anywhere and like that’s the luxury that Brad Stevens has definitely created for sure so yeah hat tip to hat tip to them we will see what happens with with kristof’s porzingis I don’t believe he’s day today that’s just off the sound there’s no well he was walking around he didn’t have a Lim looks great yeah he did not have a limb he looks you know and this is completely separate to his calf injury what they’re saying he is you know he still recover he’s playing but he’s not 100% no no you know the Unicorn needs to go to the Unicorn Hospital you know a little bit too often yes all right let’s get into this espn.com breakdown of the biggest draft needs we will throw to you Chris and what they have to say about the Kings yes this is uh on ESPN uh espn.com or ESPN plus actually is is where it’s through um and actually before I get to that I do want to read uh Evan Cy just put out about 40 minutes ago uh some some Kings related draft news Tristan to Silva’s draft range is viewed as number 12 through 18 with most with most every team showing interest per draft Express team selecting in that range Thunder Kings Blazers heat Sixers Lakers magic so Tristan D Silva very much on the king’s radar at number 13 I’m pretty dang happy I can’t lie but but you know what would hurt even more is if we are in a situation like we were last year where I was just screaming for Olivier maxen prosper and the Kings take Olivia om omx prosper and uh then they trade him immediately so that would that would honestly be and then you know then they had the Robin Lopez situation for me I can’t deal with the Kings doing what I want them to do only to almost immediately go back on it anyways um yeah Jonathan gavone who is uh Draft Express and and you know has been in the draft game for years uh paired with Jeremy woo on this article formerly I believe of Yahoo uh and did Jonathan uh gavone gave the pick that fills the biggest need for this team and Jeremy woo select the pick that gets the most value or the best value out of that spot so for example for number one gavone says the pick that feels the biggest need for Atlanta is Donovan kingan uh but the pick that gets the best value out of that number one pick Jeremy woo has a Zachary reset uh and I won’t go through it for everybody but they both agree that Alex SAR is number two for Washington um they have It reversed for number three for for the Rockets where they have reset is the biggest need clinging as the biggest fit um and let’s see if there’s any other names before the kings that uh intrigue me here or else we can move on for uh the Blazers gavone has the pick that fills their biggest need is jacobe Walter um that’s definitely interesting and the pick that gets the most value at number seven Cody Williams for them so I think that’s really interesting uh you see let’s see here uh here we go for number 13 the Sacramento Kings wow this is actually interesting uh here for the pick that fills their greatest need Jonathan gavone has Jared McCain point guard out of Duke and this is of course about Malik monk Malik monk who finished second in the NBA six-man of the Year voting is entering unrestricted free agency in Sacramento might be priced out of retaining him because of salary cap rules enter McCain one of the best Shooters scorers in the draft who happens to hail from Sacramento M uh McCain I’m sorry uh has an easy Niche uh he can fill in the NBA with his scoring versatility basketball instincts competitive competitiveness and smarts making him an attractive option at 13 Jeremy woo for the pick that gets the best value also has Jared McCain at number 13 I personally prefer McCain uh wo writes to the guards left on the board in my scenario as Walter Dillingham and Isaiah Collier McCain might not be quite as flat or have the same level of upside but teams should know exactly what they’re getting he’s going to be he’s going to make shots and raise the basketball IQ of whoever else is on the floor with him and there’s intangibles there’s intangible upsides in that I really like that write up and and you know I I haven’t really thought of Jared McCain as somebody who’s kind of a u a force multiplier if you will where he’s on the floor and that you know he I haven’t really just considered his play making as a as a part of that evaluation um my my understanding was a lot of these guards yes they play point guard but they’re really a lot more of your Darius Garland point guards where they’re not really setting people up they’re more of uh more scoring than than playmaking oriented I haven’t looked a ton into Jared McCain but I have universally seen that he is one of if not the best shooter in the draft and I I do kind of think that that’s something that the kings are going to value and if you pair with that um in this writeup that that they say that Jared McCain um might not have a high upside but just already is a good basketball player he might be 20 years old which is not you know typically where Monty tends to lean with these things but if he’s an NBA ready guy ultimately I think that’s what the kings are looking for first and foremost maybe I should look more into Jared McCain is what I’m is what I’m learning today no no you shouldn’t okay you should Goa gotcha and I like Jared McCain but I’m I’m sicking I’m sticking to what I’ve been sticking to okay with this guard thing yeah enough even if Malik’s gone can we go get somebody somebody I mean I I like the Clarkson option a lot I really do I’m with the Clarkson option and that was a that was a Sal Watkins original it was yes it was yeah 100% out of nowhere St Watkins exclusive hopefully that I mean if that happens we’re taking Victory laps we’re we’re doing we might do a victory mile if that happens you know whoever is producing that show I’m say you got to go find that what day was that I will I will find it yeah yeah a lot of people are excited about the draft and I and I like jarem McCain but okay it’s the fingernails isn’t it you don’t like the painted nails well you know me and simoner on Tik Tok you if you’ve seen him on Tik oh wait no I have seen some of his Tik toks yes it is that’s honestly 90% more concerning for me than anything else that you could show me with his film is his Tik toks talks they are they are something else definitely concerning 91 916 says take away Monk and they are still loaded at guard please draft a Ford or Center there’s a the the operative word there is loaded yes okay for sure they have a lot of guards yes but they’re too many Spider-Man meme situation with the guard I’ll never forget this I’ll never forget we have Davon Mitchell and then you bring up Keon Ellis that’s two guards and I’ll never forget I’m still trying to get used to the you know the g-league players on the Kings I’ll never forget I’m talking to you Chris and and you’re big on Kobe Jones yeah and we’re sitting there and I said okay so you know we bring out Keon Ellis and Kobe Jones played a little bit at the beginning of the Season before Keon I said okay well what’s up with Kobe Jones you know we know Keon Ellis is he’s a long guard defense first and you know can shoot the basketball but offensively you know needs to work on his handle off defensively he can still grow I said okay cool what’s up with Kobe Jones well you know he’s kind of a defensive first guard needs to work on his handle offensively he can still grow isn’t that Keon Ellis why why do we have so many defensive guards because we need to play better defense but but you you can’t have three defensive guards and then just bring in an offensive guard now you have four guards trying to do the job of one one yeah can you just get one gu you just get one that does both no no that would be too easy it’s just too much now with these guards and I get I get so I’m with you 916 I understand what the Kings don’t have at guard but that’s their own dang fault it is you got to figure out figure out swap yeah you got to figure out a different way you can’t just keep drafting guards until youit don’t forget they moved the guard they would have had more guards they they they moved Halton and they still might have Monk and herder he but they still have herder they still have him like he is definitely here I feel like people just have emotionally moved on from Kevin herder he’s still on the roster just stockpiling guards I would love a forward we talked about how guards okay could be hit or miss with guards these days Who and the Kings well well you never know that’s why we have 12 of them because the one thing you can never have enough of is is too many guards if Chris we need to start you know we need to start thinking about Wagers what to do if 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dude and it’s a deal that nobody is going to want to do a deal for I think the hope is that you don’t want to deal it and that it’s yeah that Kade Cunningham is somebody that they’re going to keep moving forward and I mean it’s it’s a little bit different when you’re on the rookie scale contract too because you you know I mean what what are the Pistons supposed to do not not resign them I mean they’re kind of in a position where they can’t they can’t really explore options for him because he’s he’s their shining piece right now he is their savior he is their number one pick that’s supposed to bring them out of this you know they they really are are kind of handcuffed they have to sign Kate Cunningham to this you can’t be viewed as 45 million a year for f because it’s going to be 226 for five years so 45 million a year I mean what what else should they do but I’m just saying but this is what happens right but cat no because cat’s not on the rookie extend they didn’t have to extend cat they could have they could have traded him before they signed him they could have let him explore free agency but instead they decided to reup and sign him to a $50 million deal I don’t think Detroit has a choice because then they just lose the talent I mean and you can’t give up on Kade Cunningham he missed a full season with that Shin injury they don’t really know the kind of caliber player that he is yet but they still have to find out they have to do the due diligence of of running through it because they’re in a position where if they don’t they are just going to be a starless bad team and that’s the worst thing you can be at least right now they have Kade Cunningham as a possible lore to get somebody else in there if he’s not there nobody’s showing up so remember how remember how we had that conversation last week about the amount of money that the NBA is getting and how the salary cap may go up and these guys might be making a hundred million a year and things like that where where is the give and take as far as some of these contracts that we’ve discussed and teams finding a way to not put themselves in bad situations because look at Zach LaVine right the Bulls are stuck with Zack LaVine and 40 million a year more than that and nobody wants to pay that now and now the salary cap goes up but these guys can be making even more I just feel like they’re going to be a ton of bad contracts that these teams are gonna essentially be forced to give to these players and then if it doesn’t work out they’re going to be stuck with said players yeah no I mean bad contracts always exist like there’s no way of getting around it like Timothy mozgov was making $22 million a year at one point like Chandler Parson there’s nothing you can do to get out of to get teams out of their own way um but yeah I mean it’s just going to be on a bigger scale there’s ideally I mean ideally the Zack LaVine contract in two three years doesn’t look as bad because guys are going to be making 70 80 million and it’s going to be taking up less of the actual cap percentage I mean yeah I I think that there’s not really a way of of stopping it it’s just teams have to they have to stop just trying to lock up these Stars I mean they realistically need to have plans and I think that’s the kind of problem that Chicago found themselves in is is that they were floundering in the middle and instead of picking a route they decided to continue to go down the middle and the problem is yeah these teams prioritize being in like the the playin to the five seed Max over actually trying to compete for the championship and I think you’re always going to have that unfortunately but I I think the the hope is that your team just kind of stays out of that no man’s land but it it’s it’s an impossible situation I mean teams are always going to mess it up and uh yeah there’s always going to be two to three guys who are making way more than what they ever should because teams are are stupid I mean realistically teams make really really dumb decisions sometimes and you just hope that that team isn’t you switch Le quick switch Le Qui oh my God quickly Switching switchy quicking switchy quicking gears here Greg Olen we teased this a bit earlier oh my gosh he had something to say about NFL analysts now this is where we’re going with the the beefs and I’ll just let you listen for yourself all right here’s my honest answer and and the football people were not happy with my when I was on with Bev and ran and and I said like maybe not 30 Austin Rivers might have been out over skis a little bit with 30 but for football people to not think that there’s I think the number we said there was like 10 seems realistic we could probably come up with 10 names could play in the NFL just on just their athletic freaking freak ISM um I think an NFL broadcaster could broadcast an NBA game with more understanding and Clarity than vice versa okay because agree offenses are too complicated defenses too complicated the NFL you know because you got because remember like in football every play is an individual story right it’s not just like a constant evolve where when when again this is my lame in basketball understanding when I’m watching you know when JJ Rex who I think is awesome when he’s broadcasting the game and I’m like genuinely listening to what he’s saying because I think it’s fun to learn and whatnot he’s not or the play-by-play guy is not saying like hey down screen flare screen then they run an Iverson cut and then they’re gonna back door pick and roll high low screen they’re not really giving like the play byplay exactly because it’s happening so fast right they’re they’re flowing from offense to defense from transition to foul inbounds Baseline out of bounds they’re they’re flowing through so many different situations in real time that they’re only diving into like the real real specifics of a great Baseline out of bounds or a great side out of bounds or the strategy at the end of the game of who to foul who to trap who to get the ball out of their hand really in just like a handful of those moments and I find that super fascinating to like sit and learn as just like a basketball fan what are we doing that is incredible what are we doing this to that is chef’s kiss let me first say that is content gold I don’t think Greg Olson’s wrong I I don’t think he’s wrong because I think football with all you there there first of all there’s more time in between to explain those things you have more dead time in football so you have to say something so you and you have to explain why this or that is happening I just don’t care man I just don’t know why this is why is this turning into a thing this is literally your example that you used the other day of nobody yeah nobody at all right quite literally nobody Greg Olsen yeah NFL games are actually harder to call than NBA it’s like I this is a conversation I literally think yeah nobody is having except for you know Greg Gumble and you know ion eagle or something well and Greg Olsen we don’t even know when we’re gonna him anymore because Tom Brady Wally pipped him maybe that’s what it is maybe he’s stying to say Hey you know I personally don’t think it’s that hard give me an NBA gig yeah let me do it I’m free I only work Sundays yeah I could switch it up if if you need me to yeah yeah it’s he threw the Iverson cut in there he ain’t sck right right well yeah he done some homework there he said he’s like you know flare screen Iverson roll I just had a Iver roll at oima a couple days ago no cream cheese I don’t it’s why are we doing this dude I have no idea I hope this doesn’t take off I really hope it doesn’t either though I mean I I’m here for a Kevin harand and uh yeah someone just said get K get har and ask Kevin Bart versus Kevin harand yeah let’s do it like Celebrity Death Match from MTV get him out there exactly bang on a on a on a chop block or something yeah when Tucker’s kicking bang bang bang I just why why are we doing this I don’t no man it’s funny crazy I don’t think the sound included this part but right before he said it he’s like oh man the internet’s going to go crazy with this one I you know what you’re doing I know I know he’s like I don’t even want to do this I wish we could just talk about something else 4 minutes into the podcast like why you guys brought me on this show but and it’s all the same model right because that was on hard in my take yeah so it’s oo Austin Rivers this big thing happened on Pat McAfee so we’re going to now have our version of it on pardon my take and it’s just oh makes me want to lose my lunch really bad I’m sick of it I don’t even know yeah I don’t even know if I actually disagree or agree with with Olsson either oh I agree it’s probably more difficult yeah I mean the the dead ball period is a really good point because yeah dead air is I mean that that is that is number one thing you cannot broadcasting and yeah with so much space 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reum I just played it reum retinaculum I’m getting conflicting reports Allan’s pronunciation is via AI so oh that’s right you know like you know I don’t think AI iation if I can’t trust AI who can I trust that’s a loaded question that is a loaded loaded question well there you go you know I don’t know exactly where that’s located but I can tell you it sounds painful and if you’re 73 you probably don’t want to have an injured what is it retinaculum retinaculum but but Simone you’re saying it’s different riculum that’s what me and verad discovered back here we were that where’s the end coming from maybe where is the end coming from Simone your pronunciation sounds like it does have an end in it what are you talking about you said riculum retinaculum I’m not going to do this with you want thank you thank you well we’re doing it 925 live never heard of a football commentator doing chicken wing play byplay that’s true right well true well I guess it’s still Kevin Harland Kevin Harland does the cats though like when the cats run on the field yeah I think he did a squirrel running onen Wing you know he’s a goat Kevin harling can do whatever he wants he really can it’s a chicken wing come on it’s a chicken wing talking about dude all right Chris so we have I’m really excited for the player MLB player poll we will get to that in a second but you had some top 10 of licensed NFL products yes want to get into so this is a Jennifer Lee Chan put this list out yesterday of uh the the players who have sold uh the top 10 of NFL products sold from March 2023 to February 2024 so these are essentially you could view it as who have been the most marketable players in the NFL who gear and I would assume these are like sherys obviously jerseys um any merchandise that that is singling out a player um which is is just a little confusing because especially one of the names on this list isn’t one that you would typically think would be on this kind of list but uh yes Jennifer lechan put out uh more so from the 49ers perspective but a list of the top 10 players among all officially licensed products sold and uh I thought it’d be a fun little game that we could uh potentially do Simone feel free to hop in if you’d like if not no problem uh but I thought it’d be fun if you guys tried to guess the top 10 most marketable players in the NFL from March 2023 through February 2024 uh just for reference again the Niner side of things uh there are a couple I will say there are a couple of ners that are on the top 10 list but those who aren’t include number 16 George KD number 23 Nick Bosa number 26 Debo Samuel and number 40 Fred Warner so it’s just any product any product so we’re just guessing the player you’re just guessing the player and how many there are 10 10 how many ners uh there are two ners in the top 10 I didn’t want to give you that information but sure okay you haven’t looked at the list already no don’t play me no I didn’t definitely didn’t memorize it I did well I do have a photographic memory so we’re trying to get all 10 including the Niners you get as many as you want okay can well we got to do all the quarterbacks right so Brock Brock pie do we want to do a consensus is that how we should do this you want you and Simone to agree are we okay are we starting with the ners or we just doing everyone Sone you want to focus on the ners yeah let’s go with the ners two ners so we know it’s not KD we know it’s not Deo who else is Chris I don’t know can’t remember mafre was mcaffry is yes that’s one Christian mcaffry is number five you can put yeah okay that’s one so one so is it it’s either iuk or Brock potentially it’s got to it’s got to be Brock the Brock is hot I think so show me Brock p number eight on the list Mr Brock Lobster himself brocky Mr Irrelevant Mr hyper relevant Mr very relevant now number eight yes Brock pie number eight Christian mcaffrey number five on the top 10 players among all officially licensed products sold which I am fasc I am now fascinated with what else is it besides jerseys and besides shys bobbleheads oh yeah bobbleheads is a good shout for sure bobbleheads I don’t think you can buy like personalized heal maybe shirts in general you know like you could buy like a so obviously momes is one uh coming in at number three Patrick momes the second Patrick Mahomes the second off the board Patrick Mahomes at number three Christian maccaffrey at number five little squirr the Brock Lobster at number eight now this gets a little squirrly I will tell you that there are one two three four non quarterbacks remaining on the list which means there are one two three three quarterbacks uh still remaining that you have not three quarterbacks I’m I’m gonna I’m gonna eliminate one okay Chris’s favorite player just sign a deal get Justin J at number 10 on the list Mr J jetas Justin freaking Jefferson number 10 on the top 10 players amongst all officially licensed products sold okay excuse me have we not brought up the Kelsey we haven’t talked about them not any Kelsey but yes Travis do let’s do a Kelsey please Travis which Kelsey Travis Kelsey number four number four we’ve got Patty momes at number three we’ve got Travis Kelce at number four we’ve got Christian mcaffrey Madden man at number five we’ve got Brock pie at number eight and we have Justin freaking Jefferson at number 10 you need number one you need number two you need number six seven and nine I mean it’s just the default ah three quarterbacks remain on the board Lamar Z let’s the Cowboys okay we’re going to go go D can I see Dakota Prescott no no no Dakota Prescott on the list that’s on Lamar ball off me coach uh Lamar Allen Styles reaching for MVP Lamar Jackson not on the board what not on the board Lamar Jackson not the top 10 players amongst all officially licensed product okay let’s before we throw our Nam no discussion it’s going hot tables hide the tables Buffalo Bills give me J Simone I will ask you do we want to confirm Josh Allen I do you trust your nope I reject that Alan styles with three strikes and he is out I will not kick out Simone because Simone is her own individual Simone you have one two six seven and nine off on the board still three of which are quarterbacks two of which are not quarterbacks any guesses give me that gorgeous man out of Philadelphia Mr Herz please down year though I don’t know he’s on Avid Elementary he was on Avid Elementary though can I just say Simone knows her stuff number one on the players amongst all officially licensed products sold the handsome man from Philly no not Allen Styles no not Kyle Draper we are talking Jaylen makes the ladies hurt okay come on you see you see him with no facial hair look a lot different with no facial he’s got the biggest earrings I think I’ve ever seen in my life he’s got some diamonds on his ear start acting different do we want do we want number one is crazy though coming off of last season they were hot for majority of this is from March 23 through February 24 did CJ Str sneak in there CJ Stroud did not sneak in there are we forgetting no I will say Simone almost got one of them earlier what did what did we talk about I said Cowboy oh oh oh Michael Parsons Parsons Micah Parsons is on the list number nine money Micah Parsons that’s insane maybe him and CJ’s podcast will take off within the next couple month all right what are the others so we don’t get in trouble so number one on the top 10 players amongst all officially licensed NFL products sold number one Jaylen Herz number two Jason Kel somebody on the sack chat said that incredible number c Patrick makes sense too yeah I mean it’s his last dance too you know number four Travis Kelce number five Christian mcaffrey number six guys come on immunizer Aaron Rogers I thought I thought he fell off I guess I forgot about number seven Joe Cool Joe number eight Joe icy Brock py number nine Micah Parsons and number 10 Justin freaking Jefferson number 16 was George KD number 23 Nick Bosa number 26 George K was it on he was number number 26 Debo Samuel and number 40 Fred Warner two of those guys didn’t even play burrow didn’t play Rogers didn’t play that tells you the power that they have in Lamar won MVP top 10 what a sick world we live in does Aaron Rogers his stuff come with free iasa yes may give me a break wow coming up next Chris Weber explains why Mike BBY is one of his favorite fivepoint guards of all time we ask you who’s your favorite point guard of all time also got the MLB player poll and don’t forget we’ll get to In and Out give me some animal fries extra pickles souwa you never know what you might hear when listening to a Sacramento Kings game Keegan going for another triple man is he feeling it can he do it yes there’s number 11 Kean murrayan steps back he just knocked down his 12 three-pointer a Kings franchise record he’s got 45 points never miss a moment of Sacramento Kings basketball with sack toown Sports and the sack toown Sports app I 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Monday through Friday Sports so if this was the Carmichael Dave show with Jason Ross they would use the breaking news Sounder here not because it is essentially breaking news but because this that’s kind of their stick and I almost texted Simone to do it because Chris gets annoyed but basically what happened is Joey Chestnut will not get the chance to win a 17th Nathan’s Hot Dog Eating Contest win this summer per Steve kuoo of the New York Post Chestnut won’t be competing in this year’s Fourth of July competition due to his deal to represent impossible Foods a plant-based brand that is a rival of Nathan’s in addition to being a 16-time champion Chestnut has won the contest every year since 2016 he set a world record by eating 76 hot dogs in 2021 and he held on to this title by Downing 62 hot dogs last year a representative of Major League eating told kuo mle the mle yeah the mle that the organization has gone out of its way to appease chetna’s demands over the years he R he runs your league just like Caitlyn Clark come on you got to understand your stars he was allowed to participate in a rival Labor Day dog said dog I was where’s the hot Labor Day dog eating Fest that would be filmed by Netflix as long as no hot dog brand was mentioned however chestnut’s choice to be the face of a different brand was see he’s gone too far that’s was seen as an overstep man Chris how will you how will you remember Joey chest I don’t know how long the deal is but yeah he’s can’t so his streak will end I’m sure he’ll be back with a chip on his shoulder next season or dog or dog I first off was not anticipating impossible foods to be the live golf of of the mle of theor League eating here it’s just you know it’s this controversy is sweeping the nation here um I would just say yeah what why why why is the major League eating making this more difficult than it needs to be like this like you kind of said like it is a bit of a Caitlyn Clark situation where she’s probably just lean into the guy that everybody tunes into like you already kind of fumbled the initial bag with the kobashi not being there I think a lot of people you know were were very invested into the that side of things and then the Rivalry that kind of built up between the two and I think the Rivalry actually kind of is the reason why kobashi isn’t in it anymore but that’s like when people cared the most the past I don’t know 10 years has just been Joey Chestnut how many hot dogs will Joey Chestnut win by this year me against me literally and so you know I don’t know why the uh the hot dog eating contest is hustling backwards as you would say and uh I mean already I think people were starting to lose the Stick of watching the hot dog eating contest and now you’re going to tune in and see Joey chestnuts in it not in it and you’re going to say yeah I’m not watching this not to mention they’re giving them free game this whole you know approach of oh that’s a competitor you’re you’re putting them on fact on display by saying we’re not gonna have him because he represents this and I guess they’re a competitor because they’re trying to pull people away from eating meat which hey this gu is not a road we’re going to go down but it is it is a competitor I for me I don’t know watching it I I gotta be honest this is just kind of a personal thing it’s the the dip I am kind of skevy when it comes to the the dipping The Bu I’m out I’m out on the Bund dip I’m super out on the Bund dip from the 916 he’s not the whole shoving it in their mouth no I’m good with that it’s the it’s the bun I do have an issue to mix the two it’s when they shove it in their mouth and then all right all right all right all right someone’s eating Taco Tuesday soon 916 we’re all part of the same Miracle he’s biting the hand that fed him SMH nicely done nicely done have you ever been in any type of a food eating contest no I really want to do I would only do a wing eating contest I feel like I could I feel like that get controversial because some people I I feel like you eat a cleaner Wing than me I don’t eat a chicken wing I don’t eat a clean I don’t eat a clean Wing well then you’re not you’re not invited you can’t do it like it’s for real ones if we yeah if we were in a chicken wing contest and I beat you no but no I’m saying but your wing C but I’m saying in a chicken wing contest do they have to see how many you ate and then measure hey how much meat is left on Allen’s versus Chris that’s for the ml to decide man I don’t know I wouldn’t do a wing eating contest anyway because I don’t want to get sick of wings you know what I would do though I would do tacos I’ve housed I’ve done 12 tacos in one sitting I’ve done 12 tacos quickly yeah like can you just house them yeah I was on break so I had to there you go there you go 12 tacos you’re talking like talking these a street tacos these ain’t street tacos be careful I be careful there’s a lot of power in the taco conversation I hesitate I’m not even going there okay you get canceled out here talking bad about some tacos that was nuts these a I am talking about street tacos I got nothing to say I am talking about street tacos Simone is there anything you think you competed I’m just going to I’m cutting some sound back very no don’t leave me don’t leave me don’t leave me by my lunch I could do I could probably do 15 tacos cuz like they do a lot of tacos I mean to the uh Major League eating competitions credit they do a lot of different stuff like there’s like sweet potato e you know in Sacramento I mean it’s fair season guys can we where some deep fried Snickers right yeah well no I probably I have a family have half yeah yeah I gotta finish my life insurance policy before I enter that contest can I get it can somebody 916 33914 where are the food eating contests can I find a taco eating contest could you maybe do drinks I know they do like sweet tea competitions like lemonade I’m just bloated there yeah because I think Joey chess cuz I’m gonna look it up there’s like a ton of things in which Joey Chestnut holds the record for uh you got tacos for having uh let me see Chestnut records shrimp oh wow Major League eating because they do it they do it in the oh my gosh this is almost a game in itself there are I literally could say countless amount of records that this man has yeah I’m looking at your screen and you’re scrolling quite a bit okay so Allan says tacos traditional it even has tacos traditional here how many tacos do you think Joey Chestnut has the record for and how long eight minutes even that’s the location what what do you do 40 no you you got to get your numbers up dude those are rookie numbers eight minutes those are Rook numbers we’re talking Street Taco size right say in tortilla traditional three-inch tortilla give me 120 no 126 Simone is on eight minutes eight minutes he ate 30 fish tacos in five minutes uh Philly cheese steaks 23 of them in 10 all right 236 in sandwiches uh how much does this dude weigh uh it’s Taco Bell tacos 53 in 10 minutes I got a buddy who could beat him eggs this man has the egg world record disgusting eight minutes 141 eggs come on in eight minutes what does his doctor say probably yeah he’s like he walks in walks out insurance it’s like the the it’s the fam or The Simpsons meme he just walks in walks out chicken Wings here’s here’s I’m big talking here’s a chicken wing 182 in 30 minutes you got that in the bag that’s nuts pork ribs 13.763 pounds is brother crazy Bo and berry pie 14 and a half pounds of Bo and berry pie eaten at not Berry Farm March 19th 2016 guess Joey chestnut’s net worth I mean I don’t know what his assets are I would guess he’s a Mill and a half 2 mil 4 million get out of here get out of I’m about to start eating dude salt potatoes are those tacos 13 pounds of salt potatoes what does that mean I don’t know 257 Hostess Donuts my goodness my heart breaks for him Pizza pizones seven and a half Pizza Hut pones all right man croquettes 18 making Catalina croates uh let’s see here ramen noodles 10 cups of the ramen noodles in a minute 50 seconds I might I might I might be able to get him in the r you better stop 10 cup 10 cups this is disg under two minutes if you hear P of baloney slices in eight minutes no thanks this guy’s sick 17 pounds of cherry pie in eight minutes what about Apple uh I don’t think he his world Rec if you give me Apple if you give me apple and some cake better ice cream my goodness I could catch it you know there is GNA be a fair coming up where they do pear pies you could do a pear eating contest oh you’re not going it’s a pear pie it’s very simil I didn’t even know they made pear pies yeah I know what a Paar is they’re very similar to Apples oh thank you no I meant the pie the pie combination a pair pie IL to an apple pie texting me pictures of pears 390 shrimp wons I got I know I got them on that one I could beat him in fried rice no I could beat him in fried rice AB 916 his arteries have to be crying it just has to be straight lard like his his body must literally run on just fat built by lard no you really we have to start thinking about it as some sort of sports performance right like just absolutely destroys his body but then he’s really really taking care of it otherwise wait here you go but I don’t know I I don’t follow him on the gram does he have pictures of working out on the he’s doing like a LeBron James level you know he’s hitting he’s taking care of his from UPS Chris Allan have you done the challenge at Buffalo Wild Wings no it’s too hot 12 of the hottest Wings they have under five minutes yeah he did it three times and it’s insane should if it is it gonna be easier to do that or the Carolina Reaper if the Kings don’t get a big I would guess one make a big trade my bet would be on one one pepper over it’s like it’s a full 12 slate of we gotta figure out I’m really hoping that I don’t have to do this by how about 1.87 uh gallons of gumbo in a I know I can do that is it my mama’s gumbo it could be 15 16 ounce bowls is it if it’s gumbo King I crazy I just don’t even like oh my God just get this man some help 47 grilled cheeses come on oh that’s light work 47 grilled cheeses in 10 minutes that’s light work now I wonder how much of these is like yeah like how much does he get hungry I mean to Simone’s point to of him treating himself like an athlete like I know he trains his stomach because I I think I watched shout out true life Way Way Back in the Day true life no absolutely not true I’m a competitive eater I will never forget it I think they had kobashi they like train their stomach so they eat like a ton so that their stomach gets to the point where it expand it can expand to that level but I think they go on a fast in the days leading in but I thought how that worked was and we got to get to the other side our boss is texting us I thought we were in trouble and he said Buffalo Wild Wings also has all you can eat wings so we’re all in yeah we’re all but I thought when you don’t eat your stomach shrinks so then it’s harder to eat a lot like you’re not so Thanksgiving oh I’m not going to eat all day and then you actually fill up more than if you did eat like a small meal before then somebody I know if you’ve ever been in a food eating contest 916 339 11140 have you been in a contest how did it go can I eat 40 tacos in five minutes coming up next Chris Weber explains why Mike BBY was one of his favorite fiveo guards of all time we ask you we ask the crew who’s your favorite five point guards of all time also the MLB player poll and we break down some Giants and a News St walk zown Sports trying to find out where to catch your favorite teams games are you a fan of the Kings ners and the NFL well sack Down Sports has you covered touchdown San Francisco it’s all on his shoulders rocks he Fires for the win he’s got the triple catch all your kings Niners and NFL games all year long on sack toown Sports and Sack toown sports.com hey it’s Carmichael Dave for American Energy heating and air with a question have you recently had a technician diagnose your agac system you were a bit surprised at how much it cost or did something seem off about their quote cuz at American Energy they take pride in giving you honest straightforward solutions to get that system up and running have their qualified technicians come out and give you a free second opinion it’s free you got nothing to lose but some dollars off of that original quote they’re making the uncomfortable comfortable they’ve been doing it since 1981 serving the greater Sacramento area A+ with the Better Business Bureau that’s why they keep having customers coming back for more and more and more you can call them and set that a point at 916520 9990 that’s 916520 9990 or American Energy air.com e not bad at all my taco eating so yeah some some cucumbers watermelon and celery you ever had ants on a log no I’m not a celery fan at all but neither am I but that’s why you do the ants on a log that’s how much I am not with the peanut butter and the raisins that’s before your time raisins so bad another terrible food item huh horrible we’re gonna get to know each other this summer culinary preferences that’s already happening and we’re going to get to know Chris Weber a little bit better as he explains who H one of his favorite fivepoint guards of all times is and we ask the question who’s yours is what he have to say the pick and roll that i r with BB I’m I think rival car Malone stock these are my f five point guards that I’ve ever played with mik Dy Mike the hardest shooting workouts that I’ve ever encountered we always talk about the shot that he hit against the Lakers and a little funny story behind not so earlier that year we were playing against Boston and we were down by two coach called to play and it wasn’t for me I told Mike bbby forget that play and I’m going to shoot a three and win the game he passed the ball he came off I faked it to him and I shot the three and they chased me in the locker room come to a game versus the Lakers he come out of the Huddle Mike says coach didn’t call that play for me I want that play he looked at me and smiled and instead of trying to take it myself he came around I was able to hand it off to him and Mike did be knocked in the shot and if you read his lips after he hits the shot he keeps going I told you I told you and that’s the type of team that we had that’s the type of point guard that we have one that uh you can believe and one that believes in you and one that’s cold I got chills be on your list absolutely not even a question I mean Mike was that’s that’s that’s my childhood point guard man like that’s that’s my guy that’s the one who you know web said it there but like when when there were big shots that need to be hit you know web web had his his time and you know he he definitely had his bag but I didn’t want that ball in anybody else’s hands but Mike bbby and he came through it felt like every especially when you’re a kid you know you you not watching every game but you’re viewing everything through these like romanticized goggles felt like Mike BBY came up big every single time he was that guy and he the thing that made him so great and made him even more like favorable in my eyes is you know nobody ever talked about him like you know he was never G to be’s you know Mike connley I think is a decent ex a modern day maybe example of Mike BBY but just you know everyone’s gonna end up talking about Steve Francis or Allan Iverson or or other guards during that era that definitely deserve shine but Mike was never one to be brought up in the best point guards of that time of that era and and really it’s a shame because he he was just so perfect for that Kings team and I always say like I think there’s a clear line of yeah like Jason Williams was super fun he had the behind the back passes got the Kings on Sports Center but when they got Mike BBY that was when it was like okay we’re not here for the highlights the highlights will come but we’re here to win and this is a more winning player versus Jay will who has the highlights but you look at the numbers and the impact um and it just wasn’t quite there BBY was like we’re taking this thing seriously and we’re actually going to try and take down the Lakers something that nobody would even dare to try and do um and so that’s for for that on top of a million other reasons Mike BBY is absolutely one of my favorite point guards all who are you other four I’ve got AI on there for obvious reasons I mean honestly in terms of like you know if I’m I’m scaling it out like I’m not the biggest AI fan but I mean in order to you couldn’t have watched that of basketball and not loved alen Iverson for who he was I got Magic Johnson just because I think he’s criminally underrated all time um I feel like people obviously know how great magic is but I think there’s I’ve had a couple conversations with some with some ogs that say like you know Michael of course great but magic in terms of the individual kind of like what he was almost the LeBron argument before LeBron where it’s just as a player like everything he can do being 68 or 69 or whatever you want to list him as being the point guard in an era where that was just not even close to a thing uh obviously the flare he brought the winning he brought I think magic just has a really good case to be one of the best truly one of the best players of all time and I feel like in that top five he’s just not brought up enough I got Dame on my list I just think he’s a cold killer obviously all the four bar Friday stuff was super awesome a lot of the off the- floor stuff is why I love Dame and he’s also just a killer um I’m definitely not having Wardell on my list I’m having D Rose as my fifth point guard of my lifetime of course um I just think D Rose was so fun and if you had D Rose as your point guard I can’t imagine there being a funner experience than that yeah I’m sure that was I’m sure that was a just a ridiculous time for the Bulls I actually saw this thing and I I sent it to you and Chris got mad at me today because I sent him so much stuff I don’t actually read it first and then I’ll and then so we’re going over something and Chris is telling me and I said what was that from he said you sent it to me and that that’s just what happen but my but yeah Dereck Rose they AI generated Derrick Rose’s career no they didn’t if he didn’t get injured and he was a two-time champion I think a two or three time MVP I don’t somebody could have just made it up who knows if AI really generated it but I thought it was pretty funny so my five czy I got CP3 specifically when he was on the Hornets before he became annoying love that so C days that’s right AI sure I got Steph I got Mike BBY and I got Derrick Rose oh wow okay so we have pretty similar list then that’s right okay didn’t even consult on that me I really wanted some early 2 I really wanted to put Stevie franchise starberry Darren Williams I mean there are a lot of there are a lot waves you know how many times I brush my hair trying to get some Darren Williams waves I never even got him gosh yeah that to release I had I had a lot of honorable mentions in mind yeah no I mean I couldn’t even really think I I had a tough time getting to my five I don’t really have like I wasn’t a big Rondo guy I know Brennan is like the biggest Rondo guy wasn’t a fan of Rondo um Steve Nash like there’s too much bad blood between us and the uh you know the Kings and the Mavericks at that point uh Jak kid I I do like jakay kid but I feel like I missed his like his real Parker Tony Parker was a big fan of Steve Nash yeah I thought about there a lot of they’ve just been a lot of point guards a lot of really fun point guards I mean we’ve had a we’ve been pretty blessed with some really really decent point guards throughout our time and uh you know yeah I considered Isaiah Thomas King’s Isaiah Thomas not Detroit Isaiah Thomas but um yeah I I feel I feel happy with my five um AI honestly would probably be the first one that I would I would bump out personally is I know we gotta go yeah it’s actually a point guard yeah definitely okay definitely yeah coming up next some Giants talk some A’s talk the mayor of Oakland drops an F bomb you like it you hate it and Giants getting harassed because of you degenerate better sty and Watkins sack toown Sports the Sacramento Kings play here he’s got the triple Sacramento takes the lead keep your King’s fix all season long right here on your home of the Sacramento Kings zck toown sports and sown sports.com the IRS deadline has come and gone so do you owe money to the IRS if so you need an ally whether you owe the IRS $6,000 or $600,000 whether your tax problems are personal or business the professionals at allies tax relief are ready to step in and negotiate your fresh start with the IRS here’s a happy customer 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they came back in the bottom of theug Austin slat to come with that hit yeah that was a seed off the bat so good for Austin Slater he’s dealt with a lot of a lot of hate this season and I haven’t even been the nicest to Austin SL and and even then people were joking saying great now we’re never going to see Luis Matos again since Austin Slater did that but hey good on him a win is a win and he roped that ball off the bottom of the wall or I think it bounced and hit the wall in outfielders were playing in because they were in a position to tie up that ball or excuse me to to win the ball game and that’s exactly what they did speaking of you know having a rough go at it Chris an article came out from NBC Sports Bay Area and it was an exclusive interview with USA today’s Bob Nightingale pitcher relief pitcher Tyler Rogers revealed he had to change his venmo settings to private due to fans requesting money on the heels of a bad outing resulting in a lost wager and that it’s really hard not to laugh at that but these guys are people and nobody deserves that this is it goes on the recent surge in sports betting has had an adverse effect on many Giants players with a handful detailing the malicious messages they received from disc gamblers after their bets don’t cash Tyler Rogers says I had to make my venmo private I’d blow a game or something and people would find me on venmo and they send me requests Roger told n Andale hey you cost me $1,500 you better pay me back oh no this has come on people can we just be normal for a minute like I think the sad part is this is being normal these days how do they even find venmo that’s sick that’s sick that is crazy I’m not saying anything El but okay you’re on Instagram and Twitter but Veno is crazy that’s that’s little that’s a little too close for that’s like finding their LinkedIn and saying like oh yeah VMO that’s the worst playing with people’s money or like and then you can automatically request that they send you money you’re getting alerts I hate that’s actually crazy and and you know probably a lot of these professional athletes and and celebrity they need to be private anyway but you find out the hard way goes on Rogers isn’t the only San Francisco player who’s had to deal with the Flur of Ven requests from outraged gamblers as third baseman Matt Chapman shared he’s dealt with similar harassment this is a quote it definitely gets people a lot more upset than it used to Chapman told nigh Andale fans used to just say normal things like you’re a bum now they have all that money on us fans will take a lot of bleep to us I’ll even have fans venmo requesting me for money I had to change my venmo and our guy our favorite player Logan Webb Logan Webb is in his sixth MLB season and the Giants a certainly has noticed an uptick in the vitriol he receives from upset fans over lost Wagers since making his debut in 2019 people are really passionate about teams and now that you add money to it it’s bigger than ever Webb told n Andale my first year there wasn’t that much gambling going on it was just oh you suck you shouldn’t be on the team just things like that yeah just easy stuff now you’re getting you cost me money they say some messed up bleep I get a lot of that with strikeouts hey I got money on you for strikeouts are you gon to hit it I always look up and say probably not there are times it gets pretty serious hopefully with more players speaking out about their experiences this kind of harassment can be curbed moving forward that was from Jordan Elliott great stuff from Jordan Elliott NBC Sports Bay Area what do you do I just know Russell Westbrook can’t play baseball now I mean he thought West literally Matt Chapman’s like I wish they would call me a bum please call me a bum now you know they’re having to deal with like yeah venmo request it’s crazy like no I don’t know what you do like you ask people to uh start you know like using their brains and stop being idiots like I don’t know what you can do to fix this like I think this is just going to become a bigger and bigger problem and you know we’ve talked about it before but they have discussed I don’t think in baseball but at least in football and basketball stadiums in arenas putting like betting modules on the seats themselves so that people can they don’t even have to leave their seat to say oh yeah I think dear and fox is gonna have 15 in this quarter under over under like it’s gonna get worse and worse the more that this becomes I mean it’s not even legal this is the crazy thing it’s not I mean I know DraftKings and and you know prize picks and all that stuff is technically legal in California but like full full-fledged gambling isn’t even legal in California and this is a California team talking about how even this base level of prop bets is messing them up the more and more that we get into this it’s only going to get worse and I it’s crazy that again the Vets are going to be telling these kids coming in man back in my day it was just you’re a bum and you know you know we want a pitcher not a belly itcher and now it’s no hey you owe me a car it’s getting crazy I don’t and I don’t think a lot I don’t think to your point about the California thing thing I and I know yeah the the apps are legal for props but I don’t even think these are fans I think these are just random people because degenerates yeah they’re just people they’re just betters that are okay looks like this is supposed to hit today so we’ll we’ll bet on this so yeah that’s a bit ridiculous we have crossa coming up but we do want to get to what the mayor had to say the Oakland mayor had to say shanga about the whole situation with the and really and we can kind of rehash this out with Whitey as well but want to get to the sound right here because the way she ends it some people aren’t very thrilled about and some people say they like the passion this is it you know it it’s completely heartbreaking because again it’s like I look at all these great people and I say that this is my family like I see myself in them and I just wish that you know John fer and Dave caval can feel the same way about these amazing fans I mean the Bay Area Oakland fans they’re the best fans in the whole world and I’m not just saying it because I’m the Oakland mayor but like I go to so many different uh games all across the country or what have you and Oakland fan base is like no other the loyalty is so deep it runs in people’s DNA and you know even if they have to spend that check to buy two Jersey they will because like that’s that’s the meaningfulness of it right it’s just not about the money it’s about you know the quality of life and and the A’s reputation is part of their quality of life and so you know to have that be stripped away without without having a voice like it’s frustrating and it’s up to have your mayor say it’s frustrating and it’s bleeped up okay some people like it some people say while this is from just somebody on social media that had some things to say big Oakland A’s fan while I appreciate the passion I’m not sure I like bleeped up and bleeped off from a mayor of Oakland this is a UC Berkeley grad right Oakland politicians and other high ranking officials should be able to communicate effectively without profanity Fair foul mayor Shang taao using the f bomb um I feel like I’m more on the fair territory after hearing that complaint I don’t know I mean like I don’t see what oh Berkeley grads like they can’t they can’t swear like you know I I I I’m a little bit in the middle of it like I wouldn’t think much of it I do think there is like an element of hey we’re talking about baseball here and like it is a little bit it’s not like we’re talking about passing laws of gun reform or whatever maybe that’s why she feels like she can no that’s what I’m saying is yeah like it’s just not that deep of a conversation and yeah maybe if we were talking about passing bills or something I would hope she wouldn’t talk like that on on the floor but um yeah if she’s talking with Casey Pratt in a bar about the Oakland A’s I kind of feel like that’s above board I mean I understand why people might be a little upset at it but at the end of the day I I think that it’s more so showing the passion in the fact that she’s not just I am a robot who does what the constituents want like she’s actually invested in this and is seemingly legitimately upset I think it’s okay it’s a fair it’s fair it’s a double it’s a fair yeah and that was from that was from Damon amandela who’s been doing a lot of work for the for the A’s and the whole situation he was also with Damon Bruce they did a live show from the reverse boycott got so they were all there feelings are you know what I mean tensions are high feelings are hot the first comment Chris to your point for about what this person said about the cussing they say my man I get the sentiment but I’ve worked in University Labs with phds that swear on the job more than dudes who do blue collar work that I work with now yeah so yeah I mean say what you want about the cussing or not cussing I think she’s ticked off and she wants Oakland to know that she’s trying to ride for him and I think we’ve also gotten past the point of politicians saying things that are that’s also true if if if we’re worried about bleeped up but other people you know are saying other things I mean let’s not move the goal post here coming up next we have WHYY gleon of the drive guys and we are GNA go through the MLB player poll and get his thoughts Styles and wat stackdown sports did you miss any part of our live local shows don’t worry you never have to miss them again check out sack on sports.com and search our podcast Page and Play our shows when you want the carmichel Dave show with Jason Ross Styles and Watkins and the drive guys plus other podcasts like Return of the Empire return of the Roar The Stingers up Podcast and Golf to go with Frank LaRosa they’re 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off the wall for an RBI basic loaded single GI off the astr straight the astr haveed the bottom inting for the Astros they unable to joined by Whitey gleon and real quick before we get into this MLB player poll we have news an update this is the type of movement that people thought Caitlyn Clark was going to have this this is from Greg Rosenstein Joey Chestnut is not banned from the Nathan’s Hot Dog Eating Contest Richard Shay of eating contest tells NBC News here’s a quote there is no ban Major League eating wants him there the fans want him there Nathan’s wants him there and that that was over an hour ago so we will see how this we will see how this all unfold he’s eating plant-based hot dogs right I don’t want him there if you’re going to eat plant-based hot dogs well he can’t eat those those are juice numbers brand this is ridiculous that’s his brand ever had an impossible Burger either of you yes no I haven’t not a burger no I hear they’re pretty good though like I do hear that I mean I I hear they’re not it’s not what it is but what do you mean not a burger Chris what else did you have uh hotg hot dog or you know impossible chicken okay cool I’m just trying I’ve never had the impossible chicken oh it’s good yeah yeah I had an impossible burger and I thought and I had it with cheese so not completely vegan out but it was good I was just I was hungry a little bit Yeah sooner than I normally would be but I think it’s just your body getting used to when are we gonna get the opposite like when are we GNA get vegetables made out of meat here’s eggplant it looks like eggplant but it’s actually fish or whatever huh we get that I like that why not yeah why not I guess I mean we have like the didn’t KFC make like a taco out of a chicken or something like that KFC needs to be stopped you have KFC who you know they did they did the chea the the che or whatever the che and then you have Arby’s who every week has is just trying out something new just trying out something I used to think RB stood for roast beef but it doesn’t R it stands for the somebody brothers or something and their name starts with r what yeah huh I like yours better Arby can not be less relevant in my life I think I’ve prob I don’t think I’ve ever actually ordered from Arby’s I maybe it’s been out of place once but they were one of our road trip spots our road trip and this is you expect me you expect me to you expect us to perform at the highest level when we’re getting we’re getting $20 a meal and we’re stopping at Arby’s and Golden Coral oh yeah that’s bang for your actually I saw I’m going real Dave here I saw a story a woman gave birth in a Golden Corral earlier this last week and named their kid after golden after golden carral GC or like what what’s the name woman gives birth this is from people.com woman who oh wait I I thought this I didn’t I wasn’t sure woman who didn’t know she was pregnant gives birth at Golden Corral so many turns baring the lead there names baby after restaurant I have endless questions how does one not how is one not aware through how is he saving all this for the very end show come on man like this is gold here we’re I’ll spare everyone the details but there’s you can definitely you know have no symptoms you don’t really show and certain things are still happening regularly that you wouldn’t believe that you are pregnant T Tavia woodfork I didn’t know what was happening Tavia told today her name is not woodfork yes that they they quickly called for medical assistance there were no signs we had no idea they were they were still trying to figure out what was going on when she goes it’s out it’s out Tama recalled a the baby was in the toilet oh thanks Al no no no no when we walked out everyone everyone was clapping and people were lined up to see this was an AR it sounds like some Arkansas Behavior yeah you didn’t even have to tell us oh my gosh yep not long after Golden Corral shared the news what’s the kid’s name I’m I’m getting I’m getting there I’m getting there oh wait no by the time Tavia who’s also a mom uh Miss woodfork andless shrimp yes gave birth patrons at the restaurant had become aware of the unusual situation some even s even suggested she named the baby golden although Tavia preferred the name carral oh my there’s another swing in a Miss I think I might have gone with golden yeah exactly I think I might have gone with golden golden wood not long after Golden Corral shared the the place shared the news across his social media naming the newborn the restaurant’s youngest fan they also gifted the family a box of baby Essentials and a Golden Corral gift card as surprise as our team was at the news of a baby being born at our restaurant we are truly honored to play such a momentous role in little Tamar’s life a Golden Corral spokesperson they gave him 50% off a buffet with purchase of regular buffet and regular price what are we talking about if I give birth oh I guess if I give birth there’s gonna be a lot more problems than just that but if if a family if anybody is giving birth in a Golden Coral you better get golden at least give this is the name yeah this was the name shortly after the paramedics arrived Tavia gave birth to a healthy baby boy kylin carral wood oh what that’s like four names it’s his middle name okay it’s his middle middle name yeah yeah there you go that’s what you so she just thought she really like she was like H this Golden Crow’s not sitting well well you know they and they do got the new uh carada I did see that no one is checking for it don’t give me that look I Wasing when I was on the bus it’s great value Whitey just think if you gave birth and you had no idea you’re pregnant like the next week you’d be going what’s gonna happen do right like an airplane’s gonna drop a bunch of stuff on you the sax Shad is having a lot of fun with this one my goodness yeah that that was that’s pretty wild yeah that’s pretty wild I forgot the part about her not knowing she was pregnant yeah yeah that’s like Chris says brutal because then you have to try and Ur everything really quickly and then let people know and then it and then people aren’t believing you and you know it’s want to know funniest thing happened the St right next to him I had a baby stall next to him was like man that girl’s going through he’s gonna be 30 years old mom I don’t want to go back to Golden gal for my birthday again yeah can we get a break please all right Chris golden wood Fork if you don’t it’s Corral what kind what position golden wood Fork when he grows up Golden wood Fork is H wide receiver Oh short stop short stuff I was thinking second base yeah yeah woodfork yeah probably yeah wood Fork sounds like a first basem let’s be honest sounds like a what a first baseman oh just a hdden tense yeah you know like like me or it could be one of those where yeah you got a nice forkball or something you know it could like work into your last name yeah we can do the we’ll do this guys got all tomorrow we’ll do the poll tomorrow yeah player poll I don’t know what happened pushed it far enough it’s fine that was a lot better than people finding out who uh based off Vibes you would most rather have on your baseball team all right which is an actual question we’ll do it tomorrow but you got the drive guys right now Whitey GLE and Kyle drier thank you for listening golden woodfork to Styles and Watkins thank you to all the callers the texter the sachat to Simone until tomorrow SEC the bag like our first year is the radio home of the San Francisco 49ers is one we will never forget going deep down the sideline for are you he’s got it ready
