Should Saints Trade Kamara?

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6:30 Dave’s Small Shop Convention Recap
9:40 Should Saints Trade Kamara?
31:02 Making fun of Falcons
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40:30 TE Situation after Juwan Johnson Injury
45:45 Saints One Hit Wonders Bracket Start
49:23 Steve Gleason vs Rob Ryan
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everything else looked dark and clear like I couldn’t tell those were eyeballs until we cut to you the the one shot of you yeah it’s it’s the eyeball the eyeball idea by me I was trying to do the look in eyes it it didn’t it didn’t come off well um so I’m drinking uh some Randy plus maybe the two shots if we get to $100 and we get that we get that winning streak to 46 weeks come on people let’s get it done Uh Kevin what are you drinking or you just eating I’m I’m only eating uh I’m eating my uh I’m eating my just bare spicy chicken patties there’s Dave there’s ju’s head blocking this thanks Al Maro for f threw these in the oven got some olive oil and some SE various seasonings on there when I’m done with this I’ve got some rice that I’ve got in the fridge that I’ve got to throw in here cuz I have to get my carb intake up no getting your carbs car I’ve told I’ve been told by my trainer I have to eat near well over 300 carb grams of carbs per day I don’t even get close to that but the last two days I’ve gotten well over 200 and she said that’s fine do you just did you just stuffing your face with like pasta uh well she said I have to be smart about what I’m eating because I have to keep my fat under 80 gr a day oh yeah yeah yeah and there’s the rub there’s the rub Dave what are you drinking you have a female doctor it’s it’s like thater trainer it’s like that old ridle doctor the the do the the doctor is my mother yeah what do you drinking da I am drinking the usual spindle tap heavy hands I just love it so uh I don’t know I don’t know if now is the time to talk about this probably is since it doesn’t have to do with anything else but was in Boise I was in BO oh yeah how was the 12200 foot shop convention because I’m a small 2,000 foot was in Boise Idaho uh and I stopped by a uh a a Pro Image store that was also a Boise State store they’re the only I think it’s Pro Image they’re like a mall hold it in front of your face that people got to see it anyway there you go s this was on sale 9.99 so I was like [ __ ] it I’m gonna buy it uh I figure we can give this away wait the live show it has no there’s no Saints it’s only nflpa license so it’s specific just to Michael Thomas and doesn’t say anything about the sa so Bud Rich I’m gonna need you to come up with a like a banger trivia question for the live show we’ll give that thing away Banger bangerang Banger Banger trivia question bangarang Rufio so um and by the way I want to thank I want to thank Phillip and Dustin they saw me I they they said nice I was flying home from New Orleans yesterday they uh Philip and Dustin they you were in New Orleans yesterday yeah I was in I was in New Orleans over the weekend family stuff we’re getting my mom uh moved into assisted living and taking care of that Philip and Dustin they were nice enough to say hello they’re big fans of the show I’m sorry I was on like no sleep they were very nice to me no you were rude to them you were rud I wasn’t rude I was not rude I was just like they could tell that I was like Haggard and I had Max with me you know they were nice though thank you thank you guys for uh maybe this is better for off air where did where did you move your mother to she’s someplace yeah she’s you got her on the top notch place we got her in the bet the the best the the the best of the best Don’s retirement living it’s Seafood Hut it’s a it’s it’s it’s a Winn it’s a Winnebago in Shia it’s the best of the best only the only the best Dave Dave listen what what we’re going to do is we’re going to send you down there we want you to sample some of the cuisine and come back and raid it all for us okay well I didn’t I mean well I didn’t I I didn’t know if she was in like lambath house you know that’s that’s some nice stuff right over there lamb is nice I think that’s where Tom Dempsey was oh wow in his later only only the only the best for my mom it was great it was great see it was great seeing my family and it was it it’s always nice to see the patrons when they when they say hello in the airport I feel blessed even when you’re even when you’re Haggard even when I’m Haggard and like trying to like like trying to like wrestl it trying to like Wrangle in an an eight-year-old who just inhaled like three beet and is like rocketing to the Moon um your boy Alan asks when will diabetes cat move to Assisted Living never never my my wife will not allow it it it needs two shots a day two sh two two shots a day minkie she’s gonna outli us all yeah no she won’t because she she’ll need someone to give her shots that’s right and if there’s nobody around to give her shots no it’ll be her and Keith Richards it’ll be fine yeah right speaking speaking of of haggard and trying to leave uh Alvin CRA Dave he just up and left mini camp he just up and left very good transition well so he just he wants a new deal uh he you know it was big news last week but like my thing is like the this is the weird situation Dave where the Saints actually hold all the leverage against Alvin CRA most like Saints players they’ve redone them and they do the cap gations that like the Saints are kind of like they can’t cut them because they just giant cap hit or whatever and and they’re kind of like in the corner and they have to redo them uh to create cap space or whatever Alan chra the Saints they cut him after this year and designate him post June 1st they get 25 million at cap space next year so I feel like Alvin Camaro you add that in plus running backs in free agency never ever ever get paid anymore I feel like he has no leverage I don’t know why he just decided to up and leave mini camp and like what he was trying to prove to the Saints but like from where I’m looking at it that man has no leverage I love him I want him to be a saint for life but I’m like Alvin what are you doing my man like I think maybe I think maybe that last you just made you know be a saint for life I think maybe that’s you I don’t know if it’s necessarily about the money so much as it is about the term the length of the contract I think maybe Alvin he’s 29 I mean you know he’s once you cross 30 in NFL running back years that’s ancient uh I think he’s kind of maybe he just wants to just stay here in New Orleans he wants to feel comfortable he wants to feel safe that he can be here in New Orleans he doesn’t have to get up and move uh and he’s got a little stability over the next few years uh um maybe more so than you know just getting that big paycheck or getting that big payday because like you said you’re right like I don’t know I don’t I don’t know whether the market bears that or not Uh Kevin yeah uh when was the last time Alvin CRA was really good and worth what the Saints paid him two two years ago uh let me uh pull up that number right now I mean it’s been a while 20 not last year obviously that Christmas Day game Dave is a long time ago against the Vikings I mean he’s never had a thousand yard rushing season his close no no no no no and look I’m not saying it I’m not saying if you don’t hit a thousand yards as a rusher it doesn’t mean you’re you’re not any good I’m just saying this simply as a point of content as a as a point 2020 he ran for 932 and 16 rushing touchdowns and also in 2020 he caught over a uh 80 he caught 83 passes for 756 yards and five touchdowns so he had 21 allpurpose touchdowns that’s the high that’s the career high that’s right his his second best was the 2018 season 14 rushing touchdowns four receiving touchdowns 883 rushing 709 receiving so basically since 20120 he has declined he’s had a significant dip in the receiv yards he went from 756 to 439 490 and 466 last two seasons he’s had two and one receiving touchdowns respectively rushing he dipped a little bit in 21 and 22 just a little bit literally like 898 897 but this past season was the biggest drops to 694 he actually had more rushing touchdowns this past season five than the 21 and the 22 Seasons but when you combine that with the the one receiving touchdown he had uh the Productions kind of like yeah like honestly his worst his worst career year I would say is 2022 he only had four all-purpose touchdowns well here’s here’s my question though Dave to the point of Leverage is there Henry ran for almost 1,200 yards for Tennessee Titans last year he got two years $15 million in free agency from Baltimore so like if Kamera plays this year out and has the best year of his career I still don’t think he’s gonna get paid so like what’s his leverage with the Saints he to change the position what’s his leverage with the SS I don’t know you’ve got uh yeah well you’ve got that but I mean I guess I don’t know you’ve got Clint kubak coming in new offensive coordinator um you know he’s look what he’s he’s had Christian mcaffrey in the past look what he’s done with him with the Niners uh he’s had Dalvin cook I guess with the Vikings or whatever uh you know maybe chimra feels like look if you don’t have me you’re not going to be able to run the offense that you want to run uh oh yep he froze he froze save that Thomas save that picture of D save it yeah combine that with the one you saved of Ralph last week and then the one you saved day this week we can have the all Frozen picture keep continue Dave oh jeez was I Frozen you were yeah for about 10 seconds oh okay well anyway I you know I don’t know I I I uh I I really don’t know I mean I want him to be a saint for Life Kevin and I I I’m not emotionally ready to like see him in another uniform I just look at it and I’m like if the Saints I mean his his contract his contract technically has two years on it but they’re like the voidable it’s like BS years like he’s pretty right that’s the the last year was always a BS year SV are voidable right yeah like well no this is no this is his last year of guaranteed that’s right right yeah that’s right next year it’s no guarantee like the Saints are in this weird he just wants secure I mean basically he’s just he’s just a guy on his final contract like I I don’t think [ __ ] Wi-Fi man Wi-Fi it’s like it’s like pre th Communications it’s like pre Thomas days I feel like for the for the old head the Marquee for the last five years I’m sorry what you froze again well this is annoying this is this is [ __ ] annoying but anyway but I mean like the guy is the guy is a star running back and a marquee running back for a franchise for the last five six years uh and he’s in he has no security Beyond this year he’s just he just wants he wants something he just but here’s the thing it’s not totally unreasonable but it isn’t like yeah I mean it’s not totally unreasonable but to him but like the Saints if they traded him they wouldn’t get anything for him if they cut him that’s not true wait if the saint you don’t think the Saints could trade Alvin CRA and get something for it okay they could get a fifth really I think they get a like a fifth like I mean I’m not saying he’s worth a first round pick but i they’d be if they got they’d be lucky I was thinking third I was thinking third no way no for a 29 year old running back no I just think like he has no leverage the interesting thing though Kevin is he’s on the right side of 30 he’s 29 he’s on the right side you know it’s like when you price something at 9.99 he’s he’s priced perfectly he’s at 29 well he will be well he will be 29 in July Kevin Kevin shut the [ __ ] up he’s 29 [Laughter] tiger jet says I need my Saints content from these wild ass dudes to get your mic together Dave thanks2 for subscribing uh I was gonna say Kevin this is a like the opposite of the Michael Thomas situation where Michael Thomas and Saints like kept him probably like two or three years too long because it was it was more advantageous to to have him on the roster than not because once they cut him it was like this giant cap hit of dead so they kept redoing it to where it was kind of beneficial for him and the Saints but Alvin has none of that leverage so I just my question is I don’t think they would trade him Dave because I I I think they’ll get no value from it but are we first of all I he’s worth more first of all I think he’s he’s in good shape he’s not injured he’s not coming off any kind of injured look fantastic in mini camp the day he was there before he left I don’t really give a [ __ ] about mini camp but I mean like he’s again he’s 29 he’s on the right side of 30 uh he I’m not going to say he’s in the prime but he’s he’s ready to go like he he can be your guy he can be the your number one guy uh in your offense like I that that’s exciting to me I don’t I I don’t you seem I don’t know why you I know I just I I think in the end Kevin I think in the end what’s going to happen is the Saints are going to sign him to like a 2-year extension and it’s going to be he deserves some it’ll be like two years between like 11 and $15 million and he’ll get like seven or8 million guaranteed but it’ll really be like a one-year extension for next year he’ll get a little bit guaranteed money for next year because I just I just don’t see Alvin chra getting a really nice payday in free agency next next march no matter how good he is like who’s who’s paying a 29y old running back when has that ever happened in in in an NFL free age can you can anybody in the chat think of any running back that was like 29 and got like paid in free agency maybe uh Kevin’s favorite Kevin look like I don’t know I can’t think maybe that up maybe Curtis Martin I don’t know that’s a budr question it’s a butd yeah um but Dave I thought the more interesting move that the Saints did and we’ll get to Joan Johnson’s foot injury uh in a second but I thought the more interesting move that the Saints did that got overshadowed by Alvin CRA walking out of out of mini camp like a diva uh was the Saints redid taes Hills contract and created a bunch of cap space that they don’t really need like usually this time of year this if the Saints would create capace be like well they need cap space because they need to sign their draft picks or you need $5 million of cap space during the year to like do moves but the Saints had $5 million of cap space so they created a bunch of space and now they have they created like $6 million of space but tastes now they have like 11.7 million in cap space and they didn’t need it and camra that’s and T them if they would have cut them and designate them June 1 Cuts next year would have created a ton of cap space between them so I look at this move and that’s why I wrote on the Whiteboard here that I did I did a I tried to do the looking eyes with Lumis but I did a poor job is they gotta be cooking up some kind of what the [ __ ] was that I don’t know uh not Max but it sounded like a baby uh they Kevin they’re cooking up some kind of move Dave right Lumis he’s cooking up something Kevin Kevin Jun on the we h i thought it was for I thought it was for chimra I mean that’s kind of what I you think oh they’re create the the the extension for chamra I don’t know maybe maybe I don’t think it’s for uh I mean who else would it be Latimore do we need to do something they have they they created enough Spa they the the Tesa move did create enough cap space that if they traded Latimore they would have enough cap cap space to absorb his 10 m 10 point something million dollar hit I mean if they’re going after somebody outside of the organization obviously I would have no clue so I wouldn’t even be begin to speculate so I’m going to yeah I’m Justin Simmons give me Justin Simmons at safety um Kevin I mean not like Dave you don’t have to give a player name like me I’m I’m Justin Simmons obsessed but it like they they didn’t have Lumis didn’t have to do this is all I’m saying so that’s why it got my got my ears burning you know yeah so so why is what I’m called Dave for [ __ ] sake man chicken the chicken run Mel Gibson uh so what do what do you think Kevin I mean if the saints were cooking up a move what would you want it to be and by the way we were only $15 the street may die tonight people you’re got to get on that oh boy come on oh my God by the way what’s what’s going on with uh hashtag uh birthday site what’s going on with with birthday s how are we looking what’s up with Angel where is he I don’t know I don’t know don’t worry about him we don’t need him to make money we make more money without him we make more money without him yeah we’re sitting at $15 here a s never sits on the George Empire Kevin lift your shirt up a little bit maybe show a little nipple little nip niip oh man show some skin brother look look you see how how white how white this is people oh my God here here’s the thing I want to tell this potential guest here remove your hat Greg Rosenthal come on I’m wearing I’m wearing Greg rosenthal’s podcast the Jessel Nick and Rosenthal Vanity project I’m wearing his shirt on my podcast he should come on our come yes and I’m also wearing the two-lane hat roll wave come on Greg yeah get on the podcast I will get them so I was going to say patrons be on the lookout we are going to do a special custom sticker set thank you for current and future annual patrons where you guys get to vote on what custom stickers you want us to make it’ll be amazing you should be on lookout for that um but but Kevin I just like I can’t ever remember the Saints doing a deal like taes where they create cap space for no reason like they just like they don’t just don’t do that like so I it’s it’s got my it’s got my ears burning I they’re do they’re they’re they’re scheming they’re scheming I get it and I have I I agree with you that this has to mean something like you know like the Brian windhorse fingers like why would they do that why would they do that but unlike Brian Windor I don’t [Applause] interception should we get fake Rob Ryan to do intro to the show from 2013 B 20 bakaro the newer we at 35% 35 yeah so but my my point is I I I don’t know anything about you know oh they’re making cap room or or yeah they’re making cap room to bring somebody in or they’re going to redo somebody’s contract I don’t know anything I mean if they I know it’s a boring answer but it’s like if they signed David bakari I wouldn’t hate it if they signed Justin Simmons I wouldn’t hate it like I just like to me the saints went all off seon where they spent no money right and they did they they spent no money and they held off redoing chamra and redoing taes and people were like those are the contracts where they can get a decent chunk of change from both of them David baktiar a free agent he is he is injured plays tackle he’s injured all the time but tack left tackle but he’s when he’s healthy he’s really good oh that’s that’s that’s exactly that’s that’s going to cure what Els us is a tackle that’s injured all the time but when when he’s healthy he’s good that’s exactly what that’s [ __ ] exactly what we need boy just what the doctor ordered rph but I mean I’d rather like if you gave me a choice between rolling the dice on bakari never heard that one right Dave or Penning I roll the dice of bakari I’m not even sure what the goddamn difference is come on he’s good at chugging beia though he is he is a he could be he would be a guest on this podcast come on the show um but it just it’s it’s strange to me that the saints went all off season not redoing the two contracts that everybody thought they would redo to create space they didn’t do it and then they redo tast them like out of the blue for no apparent reason at all I’m just saying it doesn’t make any sense and lum isn’t the kind of guy to just give people money which he when he red does it he guarantees it for tesm and it’s it’s Gail’s like it’s just I’m just saying something something is a foot Kevin held something is a foot something is rotten in the state of Denmark could you could you potentially look at Donovan Smith yeah could you could I mean he’s a t he’s a left tackle coming off uh Super Bowl champion Chiefs he’s supposed to be a free agent he is wait a minute I know I know I know what this is about I know what this is about they got to be freeing up money uh to give James Hurst an extension yeah come back James come on extension right right right yeah I mean because he’s starting and we don’t want to lose him right what would be the most Reckless way to spend their 11.6 million in cap space pokers and blow you mean signing I mean signing an offensive lineman that is frequently injured look at that donation [Applause] Ryan maybe saw TM in the shower and said Pay that man his money your boy Alan 28.3 thank you do says s that Penning and Jamal Williams will both make this roster we’re in double trouble don’t say anything bad about Jamal Williams my wife saw on Facebook that Jamal Williams got a cat and the cat is relaxing him and makes him happy when he goes home after practice so now she’s all in I might have to get her relaxing you say yeah I might have to get her a Jamal Williams jersey uh kind of relaxing I don’t know I don’t c i I have I have four cats in my house they don’t relax me at all Tom I I can’t I I can’t speak I can’t speak to the relaxation tiger jet says if the Saints win more than nine games this season they will have a thousand yard rusher car is not the answer to the team defense and Run game it is here’s a here’s a question Kevin here’s a question as as we look at at the Saints redu and tesm and chamra and Jaan Johnson um you’re you’re you and me we mostly as you like to say on Friday we we’re just we’re just Vibes and jokes is what we do right right I gotta say when you add in the Jawan Johnson injury the 10 out passo if Andrew was here he would cor passo Pingo or passo I don’t know if Andrew was here he would correct me uh those two guys getting hurt like The Vibes for the Saints heading in the camp Kevin not great not great interception mat [Applause] Ryan will Cam Jordan be stalking Matt Ryan during the Ring of Honor ceremony just to sack him B bakaro retaking his yes yes $833 we are $16.70 away budish must be settled into his new job uh uh apprciate I appreciate you but rich thank you thank you is is Arthur Blank putting himself in the Ring Ring of Honor is that the most self-serving douchebag thing you can do when you haven’t won a Super Bowl at least Tom Benson waited until he won a Super Bowl to start building statues and putting himself in the Ring of Honor just saying oh yeah the Falcons yeah [ __ ] they put like it’s like Dave it’s like giving yourself the presidential medal of freedom you that’s whack we talk I missed the show last week did we talk about or are we going to talk about this week the you know the punishment for the Kur cousins Tamp oh yeah lame lame there’s no Law and Order In America anymore lame fifth the Saints got a bigger the Saints got a bigger penalty celebrating in the locker room for during Co that’s right they they did oh they did hang on let me look that up just to be so I’ve got it like like the Saints got fined I want to say like 500 Grand and they got taken away a fifth so like it’s like was more money that the Saints got fined so like man let’s see uh I’m on nfl.com the Saints and the Patriots were fined for violating covid-19 protocol violations the saints were fined $500,000 docked a seventh round pick seventh seventh sorry and the Patriots were fine $350,000 however let’s see thank you for factchecking our host Kevin it felt like a I hate Goodell so much it felt like a fifth round pit our bullshitting house the saint however earlier in the season the league finded the Saints uh two the the Saints and the Raiders were each finded $250,000 and coaches Shawn pton and John Gruden were also each finded $100,000 for failure to wear proper face covering during their week two game million dollar in fines man anyway a million I feel like I feel like maybe we should be factchecking rph more often actually now uh interception Ryan we’re streaking who [Applause] go what are we going to drink who that golf are we going to drink the PB&J whiskey no peanut butter and raspberry jelly or are we going to drink the ghost pepper Blanco spicy ghost pepper ghost pepper Blanco actually it’s it’s fitting H it’s fitting Hudak goer can say something in the chat if he wants to but I’m voting for the ghost pepper and it’s fitting that Hudak golfer is the one that put us over the edge here because I was actually going to mention we were talking about the Falcons uh we had an epic in golf I know that we I know you guys aren’t golf fans but there are a lot of golf fans out there and we had an epic uh US Open finish uh and we had Rory Mao uh who basically I I it was the equivalent of the Falcons blowing a 28-3 lead he missed he he missed two short putts on 16 and 18 uh and and and and and like the pat like like the Patriots brys and dambo you know he had to play well he had to come through when it mattered and he did but uh Rory Rory left the door open America and uh was very I I was I got I got a lot of Atlanta Falcons 28 watching the US Open uh this past weekend but it was it was awesome it was poor Rory he had Johan vanderville type Vibes yeah going on yeah I mean he wasn’t like he wasn’t hitting shots from the water but it it was definitely uh but in the an America always wins it’s bottom line true so um shut up and drink come on man all right so we’re going to drink this oh that is strong wait a minute hang on wait for him to get the camera on you this is strong one box I mean I never do I I never do Kevin oh all right here we go we need to see your reactions too guys oh eyes back oh oo that sounds like a that sounds like that sounds like a Peter North tape I mean there was no way we’re going to let you drink a peanut butter and peanut butter and whiskey like that sounds like something you would boy says finally do it oh Ral where’s the P where’s the puke bucket Ralph show the pet 10 and it’s right here oh it’s a 10 it’s a 10 man honestly don’t don’t donate anymore because I don’t want him to be able to wash it down with a better whiskey I want him to just marinate in this one for I mean that was that was brutal because it re like like the like we’ve had some before I think that that have been like spicy pepper but that one was like really SP like really spicy like my chest burns like garia on a cheap [ __ ] you know what like like Kevin I know a couple weeks back you had to do a bathroom situation and like you destroyed a bathroom during the show that might be me this week this one is like went straight down and it’s like gurgling in the stomach and and and and washing it down with a summer shandy is Dave are you muted oh yeah I am muted I I I think I think Kevin’s bathroom situation was literally last week because that was one the one thing I missed that was [ __ ] Epic Man and I’m yeah I need to need to go back and listen because that was a winning show budri says I’ll be you’ll be [ __ ] fire I might be like I could be like a I could be like one of the superheroes on the boys I could be like [ __ ] man where I like crap fire at man um that would be a good boy super hero by the way Tomas is easily wowed by goofball po J well I mean Europeans ke Kevin they love poop jokes all Europe all all Europeans all Europeans east of Germany love poop jokes I mean that’s a fact why is that what it’s it’s true man and a woman she she took a dump on Germany’s America’s Got tal or German Germans Got Talent and she won she took a giant dump look it up Twitter I love how he was going to describe it as Germany’s americ got yeah wait a minute what stop she she took she just took a dump and she won talking about I’m talking about this one I saw it I saw it on the twitters um uh Thomas give us give the people a donation update quick even though we just reached the goal give them a quick update uh hope I’m not missing any anyone B is in the lead with 40 bakaro boy in second place third place would that go also thanks to marinho and tiger jet uh for donating reaching the goal we are on a 46 week streak now yes so did did you know that the name of Germany’s Got Talent is the super talentu those [ __ ] Germans in in Poland it’s man Talent man Talent okay I’m gonna try and look up I’m going to see if I can find this uh the uh the poop lady on any of the previous Seasons here is David Hasselhoff the host please tell me he is no David Hasselhoff is not on the German show David the Hasselhoff Dirk noisy and nois and and uh thus proving Germans love David Hasselhoff they show no hasselhof so uh Dave don’t hassle the half I gotta say like Jawan Johnson hurting his foot it it’s I know they they they they said he’s gonna be out a while he’s a he’s he’s a dud he’s a bust stop talking about him stop stop I feel like tight kind on him when he plays Kevin they were good last year it was part of like cars resurgence is going to revolutionize the tight end position you play golf with one like if you play golf you play golf with any Saints player you’re like they’re amazing who who Who’s your if you could play golf with one Saints player on the current roster who you want play with no no no no no no who’s your foresome so it’s you and three guys it’s you and three other it’s you and three other players me and three other Saints players yeah I get no he’s it’s really two because he wants Mickey Lumis in force them no It’s gotta be gotta be players no yeah no because then the yeah then then the player because then they’re all going to act straight and not cool in front of Mickey uh Cam Jordan yeah AK oh yeah yeah and maybe tast him the four of us here’s my question to you Kevin yeah Jawan Johnson injury I know Jimmy Graham kind of said his goodbye but not really but it really was kind of like a goodbye and then he went and rode across the Atlantic Ocean whatever run it back with Jimmy Graham One More Time wait are you telling me you’re not excited for the for the uh the three-headed monster of Tamm Hill fost Maro and Jesper horad I’m not they got that UDF they got that udfa tight end that everybody’s excited about he might be the number one pick now yeah where the hell yeah they paid him like they paid him like 200 Grand they paid him like 200 Grand somebody in the chat don’t know the name uh hooker oh yeah yeah dalan hooker D Colorado State I mean everybody loves a hooker you know just saying I mean well there’s also apparently Michael Jacobson is on the team he looked good at mini game I saw lots of tweets he was catching passes looking fantastic he w wow he’s six foot seven Hulker butd says he Hulker not hooker oh sorry Don Hulker yeah but Dal Hulker is 6′ three jper horstead 6′ three Tommy Hudson 65 Jaan Johnson and fost Maro 6’4 uh yeah look my my my point still stands is you if you’re relying on Jan Johnson then you’ve got a problem if you don’t think fost Moro and all these other guy and hooker and all these other guys are adequate backups then you need to go get somebody else because I just I sorry Jawan Johnson is uh he’s a four game to six game a season guy apparently that’s what this is somebody in the chat said that these are the Vibes I’m getting from from JJ as I like to call here’s a question uh off topic my wife asked me this uh Justin Timber Lake he got busted for DWI on Long Island by the way my home Long Island my home community of Long Island but he was out in the Hampton he said he had one drink and he looked ripped to the tits in that I just saw I just saw a headline on my phone that said he there were all kinds of stuff in his yeah he had he had all kinds of stuff including aning including but do you think I I mean do you think I could out drink Justin Tim if he’s being honest and he just had drink yes I do I do yes I do you’re a professional Ro come on man I do I do and I challenge Justin Timberlake to come on this podcast and see if we can have Dr and drink and go and go ahead go and go mini bottle to mini bottle against you it’s going to be my Lord uh let me let me yeah it would basically be like that scene in Raiders of the Lost Arc where you meet Maran and Ralph would be Maran she’s just down in these these shots of God Only Knows whatever Himalayan moonshine and that other person across would be Justin Timberlake and Timberlake could fall over on his ass get a couple of sherpers to carry himay and moonshine is that a real thing did I have that I don’t know um so someone need to send it to you Thomas you were right you said this show is going to go on forever and you were correct because we we’re at 8 we’re at 852 and we haven’t even got to the world famous Saints happy our bracket Thomas do that intro we were trying to kill time for juj we were trying I don’t know I hope ju is all right he probably pass and show yeah it’s time for the world famous Saints happy hour bracket Thomas hit that intro [Music] so this year’s bracket Saints one hit [Music] wonders and Thomas has informed me for people look listening to watching the live stream that instead of having a right side left side of the bracket we’re going to have a top and a bottom of the bracket which me which led to many inappropriate jokes on the pre-show which you should listen you should live you should become a patron and get access to the behind the scenes No we’re just gonna make him now Thomas is a bottom and Ralph is the top am I so uh thanks to the patrons for voting uh we had to play in bracket we had the patrons vote uh to decide who would be the playin and uh Kevin I’m not going to lie uh the person I it was between Rob Ryan Andre Royal Joe Morgan and the 1980 Saints I wanted the 1980 Saints to win because I wanted to make the joke that they only won one game what could be more one hit wonderer than the team that went one in 15 you should have rigged it man I should have I know we don’t it’s like we don’t rig things on the Saints Happy Hour podcast you know we don’t we don’t rig things we’re not you know we don’t RI rigging elections is unamerican and it makes people very mad when they think things AR up on the up and up Thomas unless we want you to drink something I I want to go I just want to say is this I wasn’t here last week this artwork here that we’re seeing on the screen that’s like uh uh Cartoon it’s like a yeah yeah comic comic a comic yeah I don’t know that was a theme that was a theme this year I know did I don’t know if this was unveiled last week or if this is the first time unveiling it this week last week yeah last week okay well you did a very good job Thomas this looks great looks hey marho says Ralph can’t be a top with no hand and strength wow yeah Ralph is definitely a bottom he’s already half subdued I’m drunk people just take advantage has a power bottom so Rob Ryan won the play in Kevin do you have any thoughts on the play do you agree with the the the patrons because they voted 63% Rob Ryan as the playin no I mean I think I’ve I think I also voted for the 1980 Saints uh I know I didn’t vote for Rob Ryan and I don’t think I voted for Andre Royal um so you know I I I didn’t vote for Rob Ryan but I guess it makes sense I get I mean well 2013 was amazing I remember Dave would tell us about hey people are seeing Rob Ryan around town he’s he’s buying Ben and Jerry’s he’s at miss Ma like it was fun like 2013 it ended badly for Ryan but 2013 was amazing like let’s not don’t pretend otherwise I know it’s like a decade ago but let’s not pretend no but I think because it’s been a decade I think he’s on he’s probably on good terms with the city yeah like he oh if he came if I saw him yeah if he came back if I saw him out uh i’ i’ I’d dap him up yeah so so Thomas let’s let’s let’s get started what’s the first match up all right remember Thomas versus Rob Ryan remember you’re so here we go so here we go this this is angering people in the chat Kevin and we said this on our preview podcast of the bracket easy this is way you you said it on the on on the I think you said it on the preview podcast when we did we previewed the bra like Steve gleon might upset people as a one hit wonder because they don’t think of him that way but I mean as far as like football for the Saints like when you think of Steve gleon you think of 2006 the punt block Monday night right and yes you think of his incredible work afterwards it uh being a tremendous for ALS just being a tremendous human being doing amazing things in spite of that disease like I like that that’s but that’s not football like when you think of him as a saint like 2006 is immediately what you think of so I put him as the number one seed right like I get it I’m not I’m not uh like I’m not weird like I get it and like we’re we’re seeing it on the thing you know we see the block everybody in there going bananas an ape [ __ ] there’s Curtis Delo there about to dive on it uh I’m waiting for nope yeah he does craw actually you know what I’m interested to see I’d love to see a conspiracy theorist trying to say that Curtis Do’s knee hit the ground well it doesn’t matter nobody touch yeah is she single well it’s from is she a doctor is she a nurse she a nurse anyway uh Ralph Ralph all the points you made definitely qualifies Steve gleon we’re talking about the Saints we’re talking about football you know he he made the one play uh obviously he’s and he could be you could be a legend so much more than that but he’s so much more than that but like the football he’s and it made him a legend like it all came together it’s the perfect thing every time I see it I still get chills it’s amazing uh but the thing is I feel like for Steve gleon and I think me me me and you Kevin me and you might have had like a like a text chain about this or whatever I felt like Steve gleon if you put him in the bracket he’s got to be the number one seed like you can’t put him in and have like an eight seed either he’s a number one seed in the one hit wonder bracket or he doesn’t qualify at all who are the other one seeds because like I feel like Steve’s gon get 16 Dave it’s one through 16 we don’t have we didn’t have a 64 scam bracket you know we don’t well but is there not another side yeah but it’s all one through 16 so it’s like the one is the top seed here the two is the top seat on the other one I mean are you saying there’s tops and bottoms there’s I’m saying it’s one through 16 who are the other high seeds for crying out well mean you got two see come on man you got two no but my point is like who the hell who who is gonna lose to Steve gleon like he’s gonna have yeah he’s got this this is like hey tiger jet in the chat says no way Steve gleon should be even in in this this like you know this is he Steve Steve Steve gleon is like the Schindler’s List at the Oscars like you’re not gonna nobody’s can’t you can’t vote against V what are you going to do what are you going to do we should your opinion man come on no it’s no it’s not it’s almost fact it’s almost fact is my opinion but it’s also almost fact that’s it that was the that was the conundrum Dave that was the conundrum with putting Steve gleon in because once you put him in he’s he’s he’s like he’s like the 72 Dolphins Untouchable he’s like he’s like minus 800 in Vegas to win you know so it’s up I still I still think it’s coming down to him and Brian milley yeah I I of course he’s in there I’m going to say this I’m going to I’m going to vote for Rob Ryan here why is it Brian mil and not and not and not uh aahe or uhe AE doesn’t play for the Saints no no who oh I guess nobody blocked it he just fumbled he just he just yeah he just fell on it I’m voting Rob Ryan here because I think I think I think the committee I think the committee made a mistake the chat has convinced me like I think I think putting gleon in was a mistake I was the committee not because not because he’s a not because he’s he is a one- hit wander as far as football I 100% agree with that but it’s unfair fight with gleon versus anyone it’s you know it’s it’s just an unfair fight and I I I got so essentially you’re trying to pull a Ste Seagal in the beginning of executive decision and you’re writing out Steven Sagal here so that way we can focus on Kurt Russell that’s right uh I watched so many Clips the other week of when step Seagal law man I was I’m embarrassed for myself I felt shame I’m embarrassed for you but they call St SE Thomas where did you get that did you that Thomas that that uh no that’s from Google that’s from Google Google it’s it’s it’s a meme it says how did you get fired on your day off it’s from it’s from uh Friday it’s Chris Tucker and it’s Rob Ryan’s F face I’m voting Rob Ryan because Rob Ryan you may people may say derogatory things about him Nash because it went off the rails in 2014 and it went off the rails in 2015 and by the way Dennis Rob Ryan being terrible after 2013 kind of gave us Dennis Allen if you think about it so you can hate Rob Ryan not only for being a one hit wonder but he kind of gave us Dennis Allen if he would have been good maybe Dennis Allen never happened and he’s not the coach of the Saints wait a minute are wait are you are you are you saying that as a positive or I’m saying that I’m saying that as a negative for Rob Ryan but I’m still voting for him I’m still voting for him because Dave I have Nostalgia 2013 when when the defense was awesome from week one by the way where it was they stop they intercepted Matt Ryan in the end zone to win the game against 2013 was so freaking fun with Rob Ryan like people were sending us P people on Twitter they were sending me pictures of him around town he was a freaking celebrity he was a star it was fun and it was the the the the essence of this whole bracket Ence Rob Ryan I vote Rob Ryan what what what year was Rob Ryan’s first year 2013 first year well look I have a I have a lot of nostalgia and he led the Irish Day Parade in 2014 as no afredo so why him and Thomas morstead I think I believe led the Irish Channel parade I vote Rob Ryan Dave I have I have a lot of nostalgia too I have a lot of nostalgia from 2013 and I don’t remember if it was a preseason game or the first game of the season but I will never forget and I’ve said this before and I’m going to say it again and somewhere some somebody else saw this and they’re going to back me up one time and they’re going to they’re going to come forward and tell me but uh Rob Ryan running out of the tunnel onto the sidelines before the game and just totally eats it and just Falls hey people in the CH V Rob Ryan come on face and fall face first Falls face first and he’s so big still it’s kind of like the penguin uh in Batman kind of like Danny DeVito in the penguin suit falling just tumbling forward and he just kind of bounced right up um and look and despite despite all of those the good feelings I have from that memory nothing will ever top the goddamn memory of Steve gleon blocking the [ __ ] punt against the Falcons in 2006 when the [ __ ] super doome opened you [ __ ] idiot [ __ ] move the [ __ ] on gleon is moving on this is over holy [ __ ] I can’t believe we’re arguing this Kevin but is he a one hit wonder though that’s the question man come on is he like people want people want him to lose because they feel it’s disrespectful that I made him a wonder wonder Thomas I told you I was right to change that graphic good thing we didn’t put the graphic with the one at Wonder back good thing we changed it from Steve G people would have they would have canceled us all on Twitter it’s good good it’s a great decision by me the [ __ ] wi I win that one avoiding the disaster that’s right avoid walking through the raindrops Kevin who you vote Kevin it’s up to you come on vote vote up Ryan come on man listen I am going to pick the former pick of the Birmingham Thunderbolts of the 2001 XFL draft I am going to choose the former member of the Indianapolis cult the former and current forever Saint the God of this [ __ ] I’m choosing Steve Gleason come on man I feel like you guys can all be mad at me fine whatever be mad at the committee commit nobody’s mad nobody’s mad Ralph’s mad it’s all ju’s fault for not tell me yeah where is where is blame would have voted for Gleason jue might decided with me to get gleon taken well is it is it more disrespectful to have gleon in the bracket or is it more disrespectful to vote him out of the bracket and have him lose to Rob Ryan because you don’t think he should be in the bracket to start what’s more disrespectful the opposite the opposite I now he’s now it’s like to say he’s gonna steamroll his he’s he’s gonna March he’s gonna March through this bracket like a [ __ ] through a goose man um but anyway so that’s it Thomas announced the winner I was going to say Sherman through Steve gleon yeah I love the graph Thomas Thomas always UPS his game on the graphics the graphics for the bracket are freaking amazing um and it’s why you should support the show become a patron allows us to pay Thomas finest meats and cheeses in Poland uh and Thomas next month we’re not going to pay you we’re not going to pay you in meats and cheeses or whatever Don nomination money in Poland we’re going to get you the best of uh the Polish version of America’s Got Talent we’re get you the full DVD collection that’s going to be your payment for next month the Super Show that’s like a punishment not a payment howy Mourinho says on VHS do they have VHS in Poland of course betamax incoming say all right so Thomas uh what’s next all right next matchup Chris Rees versus Charlie Clemens see this this guys is a strong match up because you got I’m GNA start with Chris Reese I feel like Chris Reese of the one hit wonders Super Bowl Heroes Saints playoff Legends I feel like Chris Reese kind of gets lost we talk about we talk about the Super Bowl and the playoffs we talk about we talk about Drew Brees we talk about yeah uh Pierre Thomas we talk about morstead when you talk about Ambush the dude at the bottom of the pile Kevin was Chris Reese like and I don’t even want to think about the foul things they were doing to that man at the bottom of that pile in a Super Bowl to try to get that ball bet he could tell you I mean so I’m just saying like he’s forgotten so like it’s you talk about a one- hit wonder and a like Chris ree deserves to be in his bracket um but number nine Charlie Clemens uh me and keev Kevin was in the preview podcast you were stunned Kevin when I told you in 2001 Charlie Clemens had 13 and a half sacks for the right right and and I proceeded to go look at the Pro Bowl roster and I was just like how did he not make the Pro Bowl how did he not make and and he ran into like an alltime murder like a murderer row of guys that you could just say it’s defensible that he was kept out which is still which is still insane the funny thing about Chris Reese is that he wasn’t even the guy credited with the fumble recovery it was Jonathan Casas yeah but but everybody on the team says it was Chris Reese and so it’s like here’s the thing about Charlie Clemens here’s the thing about Charlie Clemens Dave he had 13 and a half sacks in 2001 the rest of his career he had six and a half sacks so he’s the true definition of a one- hit wonder 13 and a half sacks in 2001 he was out of the league by 20 wait is it jue that might be jue coming oh [ __ ] hey what’s up H hey when are we starting the podcast maybe we can go funny um an hour and 10 ago really uh I don’t really know much about Charlie Clemens he was slightly before right at the start of my time uh I didn’t know that about he had like 16 sacks in a season that’s that’s that’s why he’s on this list Kevin walked away but I didn’t realize that Casas was I had no idea that Jonathan Casas was credited with recovering that uh yeah Ambush uh I always thought for sure no I always thought for sure it was Chris Reese everybody said it was Chris Reese re I think with this go ahead I’ll vote first again here’s the thing I understand Chris ree Ambush recovering on sidekick a seminal moment in Saints history probably one of the main reasons they have a banner that they won a Super Bowl I get all that but just for the pure pureness the essence of this tournament again Charlie Clemens I think is up there like 13 and a half sacks 2001 six and a half sacks the rest of his career and by the way the 2001 Saints defense sucked and yet he had 13 and a half sacks 75 solo tackles he is it was in that it was inexplicable his his season he he was never good after or before and he he he was like lightning in a bottle for a year it was really weird yeah I mean it probably was some sort of performance enhancing thing I mean 13 and a half sacks I think that’s more sacks than Junior no one Sue I just said like that’s more sacks than Junior glette ever had you know do you know what we would give for anyone on the roster to have just like 11 sacks this year do drugs I would do I would do I would crime if you told me I needed to Crime de Mario Davis has never had that many secks no I would crime if you told me I needed I needed to Crime to get the Saints a 13 and a half sack defensive end I would crime I’d be like what do we need to do what do we need to do to make it happen so have you seen your honor I have not people tell me it’s amazing it is so good uh I’m voting Charlie Clemens man um I’m just gonna say this it’s pretty much without comment but um just going back to the Steve gleon thing Chris ree at the time was kind of like the Steve gleon air apparent like he was the he was the next long-haired safety uh who came up with the big special teams play uh after Steve gleon I feel like that’s uh he looks like one of ju’s frat brothers I picture Chris Reese right there the bike anyway I’m going with a pike um I don’t know I wasn’t around for Charlie I’m going with Chris Reese I’m I’m going with Clemens and I will say this um Rees is kind of like sad Benny Thompson or sad oh my God Steve gleon he he’s like the Special Teams guy that was wasn’t as good as the Special Teams guys Justin Hardy JT gray like I feel like Reese was kind of weaker than all those guys Dollar Store dollar store that’s why that’s why you’re supposed to love him because he made the play he was supposed to make he didn’t even make the play he didn’t recover you don’t know that no no no no the the team says that it was him yeah the team says that it was in fact him the Box Score says it’s we clearly look we clearly know that referees can incorrectly rule something no no no no Kevin they’re always right they’re always right butter says his mom liked Chris Reese so Kevin who do you vote for for wait Bud’s mom like Chris ree or Chris Reese’s mom liked Chris Reese both yes yeah I’m voting Charlie Clemens uh I just again that one season is utterly ridiculous it’s just can you recap can you recap what happened before I got here yeah voted Steve gleon over Rob Ryan 2 to one uh Ralph suddenly had second thought because people in the chat were brow beating him for how dare you put Steve gleon in this tournament and it’s like it’s like look everybody know look we all love Steve gleon Chad wanted to to win for his post football career and he’ll always be loved he’d be loved just on the play by itself but everything he’s gone through and and and overcome it just makes him more beloved but again this is about what you did on the football field in a just you you’re encapsulated box in in a vacuum yeah like if if if if that was it just Gleason and and just one match up yeah I I mean I’m with you I kind of protest being in this tournament also what this is crazy he can’t he’s not one you guys you guys hate you guys may we need to go back crazy wait a minute hang on a second is Jude is Jude uh quote unquote doing the right thing and refusing to certify the vote now is that how are you spelling thing are you spelling thing with an i or an A Steve gleon could be out of this tournament if CH also the Courage the the anti-al slander uh on this podcast is disappointing from ju and malbro I’m just saying youj mro no I mean so I showed up late I didn’t I don’t I don’t get a vote we we go back we it’s not lost there’s no going back we can’t go back so gon’s [ __ ] next week maybe if ju shows up that is I mean if he was going against Chris Reese he’d be he’d have it in the bag well he might be so uh Thomas this this is a this is a top to bottom yeah that’s right that’s another thing you missed in J are you a top or a bottom instead of left and right side of the bracket we have top and bottom are you a top or a bottom can I are you guys familiar with the uh the show The League we are yes Pete Pete top Kevin bottom has got to be one of the greatest fantasy football team names of all time right which one are you all right give me give me give us the winner Thomas and the winner is Charlie Clemens all right so we’re halfway through the the matchups today Thomas what’s next oh damn I got I gotta get well I just want to say Jude where were you before th before Thomas gets to the next where were you like you were like even by your standard you were late yeah I know it’s sorry it’s uh 10 new record Summer I got kids stuff going on camps we got a house guest tonight I mean it’s just yeah I’m getting pulled 100 different dire dad who’s your house uh a tennis player that’s uh on a training block that just need somewhere to stay this week not no are they from like do they speak English yeah she’s American she’s American tennis player oh she interesting y interesting where where is she sleeping she’s from New York actually we live what part of New York is she from uh West Hampton oh she’s from the Hamptons yeah oh very tell her to be careful they got a bunch of drunk [ __ ] out on the roads I have a friend I have a friend who has a house in Hampton Bays which is close to Westampton wow isn’t that where they killed a bunch of people the dude killed a bunch of people and buried them in the beach that like Gilgo Beach you think Thomas what Thomas Hampton in once Thomas by the way I’m drinking this beer right here it’s a star Hill American Virginia peaches uh wheat ale it is absolutely terrible what is your female tennis slaves at your house uh drinking I just want to make a public I want to make a public service announcement to anybody in h in the Houston area um do not say anything mean to my wife tomorrow if she’s checking out or she’s in public the the Astros got shut out by the White Socks and the expletives she just spewed oh [ __ ] melted by the white so by the white socks who White Soxs are like a doublea team they’re like 18 and 53 I think they’re like chasing the worst team in history yeah and they just shut out the Astros um so Thomas what’s next all right John Gilliam versus Robert meum a this is a strong I’m sure I’m sure John gilam appreciates that you found a recent photo of him yeah like I mean either this or the shitty photos from the past you know Gillum wasn’t it pronounced John Gillum I don’t know Gilli no it’s Gilliam it’s Gilliam okay sorry yeah why is Robert me okay this is this is crazy yeah I can’t believe I’m asking Ralph how to pronounce it correctly wait a minute why is Robert meum on this list like this is not like I’m with you I’m with you Dave this is an outrage the I mean the the Mee around alone allows him out of the this tournament no but that’s what he’s here for no he had multiple Seasons with like 700 yards exactly if you ask any you ask aund you ask a hundred Saints fans Robert meechum they say Mee around that’s it that’s it all season he had one season where he went over 700 yards receiving it was the 2009 season when the Mee round game occurred I mean really that’s it me Mee him I mean look from 20 2009 to 2011 he was at 722 638 620 nine touchdowns five touchdowns six touchdowns like he was a productive receiver he was a guy that like he wasn’t like a thousand yards he wasn’t worthy of the first round pick that they drafted him in like I would say he under I I would say he you know didn’t live up to the hype I would say that he you know could should have been a better player the league but like based on where he was drafted you name one he’s not a one hit wonder name one other Robert me a moment name give me one Andrew one a game a play something didn’t he in that same game didn’t he win the game with a touchdown reception on a deep ball he got it to overtime okay in the same game so he literally made another huge play in the same game as the me round those happen all the time though yeah like H Mary um wait on a second wait hang on hang on hang on I gotta get I got to get this point in because from the way Jud is is describing It Ralph I think Jude wants to have a mo a uh most underachieving Saint bracket next season and he’s nominating Robert mechum absolutely but like he you can’t he had 26 touchdowns in his career like the dude found the end zone a lot yeah with the saint I’m I’m with Andrew even even if you want to consider Robert meum for this strictly on the mea round which is a great play loved it that was incredible uh I will never forget that John Gilliam still uh based on a onetoone comparison of their their individual the one plays you know John Gilliam he was the first play ever ran it back for the sa for the Saints 19 67 ran it back two lane Stadium uh like you you can’t even even if even if we threw away Andrew’s argument that Robert meum shouldn’t be considered a one- hit wonder which I agree with uh even if you even if you consider Robert meum a one- hit wonder John gilliams still beats him hands down he literally never ran back another kickoff for the Saints like that was it that was the one time he had a kickoff for a touch down he only played two years with the Saints and like he caught 20 balls each season he was he he yeah and then and then he went to Minnesota and went to multiple Pro bowls yeah I I will say like Gilliam stats with with uh St Louis and with Minnesota both like the guy was a star but that’s that that’s part for the course for the 70 Saints yeah they maybe should have hung on to that guy I [Music] mean I I it’s it’s him for me like he he he should he should win he he might be able to win the whole thing if you like pure one hit wonderness but I stand by meechum being in the bracket because if you ask aund Saints fans Robert meechum they say the Mee around like that’s it so I vote I vote Gillan and but I still say me I I honestly don’t think mum’s career with the Saints is that different from Devy Henderson’s like they have had oddly similar careers with the yeah except one did the mea round and one didn’t I’m just so let’s see so let me so who do who do you vote for Dave Dave is voting for gilan he already said Dave [ __ ] so while so Kevin look what what are you looking up this this bracket’s getting contentious I like this this is a good good choice by us for a bracket lot of actually I would Dey actually had a much better career than uh than Robert meum I don’t even think the two were comparable yeah Jude you’re like weirdly nostalgic for Robert mechum you’re like meim had nine touchdowns one year de’s best season he had five no he also had nine in the 2009 I’m back I was away but like I was accidentally looking at meechum on that one oh God he’s looking at unbelievable Andrew is not Andrew is not being like this is like I am the same as is this like the baren stain Bears thing like I swear like mea was a very productive member of this [ __ ] team for multiple Seasons like this is this is and then and then I said that like him and Dey Henderson had very similar careers with the am I living in and Ralph and Kevin are like no no way better know no what do you I mean like maybe like yeah may maybe was like a little better yeah yeah Thomas we’re going to spend all of the the June money and we’re going to conduct a poll we’re move gilam along in this BR I’m I’m voting Gilliam okay all right so it’s a clean sweep Thomas announced the winner the winner is John Gilliam me in this tournament is an outrage that’s even worse than gleon wow I Lov when you both said they’re they’re him him and and Henderson are both the same except meet around except for the me round that’s right saying I Thomas we did a great job devising this back we we juj has only been here for five minutes he’s already he’s already his his blood is already boiling it’s it’s already it’s time to go also if meum was going to be tournament wouldn’t he be the top seed since he’s better than all these guys I don’t know no but but you can make a case that he should be the number one SE cuz all people remember from him is the me around but I mean like we didn’t put turle we didn’t put turle in because of the helmet should have been he should have been in we should have put Davenport we forgot about Davenport you should have S he got KCK out of one good season en CRZ needs to be in this we could have put D we could have put uh what about de Bryant one day wonder you could have put Dan Morgan in here twice we could have we could have put just to have Shawn pton say I saw enough I’d seen enough for Charles Brown you could have put you could have put that kid from Oklahoma State who could do backflips oh we need we need Shane Graham in this tournament he introduced us in the introduced the podcast that’s righted full team seed what what’s uh what’s next Thomas next match up Thomas right final final match up Ryan Mill versus Keith Mitchell I thought that was I thought that picture of Keith Mitchell was uh Adrien Peterson yeah ke Keith Mitchell is kind of like a Charlie Clemens candidate in the sense that he had won insanely good season that’s right and and he made the Pro Bowl that year and but but like I would just say that Keith Mitchell was a good linebacker even besides the year that he made the Pro Bowl where he kind of went nuts like I I would say I would say I would say he’s he’s closer to Dey or sorry not Dey sorry he’s closer to meech him in the sense that like I would say he had two or three Good Seasons and one great one uh mil is is like 100% he recovered hakeem’s fumble like it’s it’s one play um so I I’m leaning Brian Kevin’s hero Brian Mill yeah I’m just thinking of the the Thomas I’m just thinking of the other the bottom of the bracket JJ is going to be just outr he might he might be so outr he might he might reach through the internet and break my good arm Che this out Kevin’s crean right now uh drops the ball I mean is it mil or mil it’s mil mil you don’t say it the same as mney Boulevard yeah which is Ralph’s which is where I grew up that’s right that’s where my grandfather’s house was mil Boulevard mney right by Mount Carmel um this one it two very strong candidates Kevin I’ll let you go first brother it’s Brian Mill I mean the guy he he was he played five years total in the NFL the saints were the last team he was on he play he only started two games that season he appeared in all of them but a special teams guy yeah he was a special teams guy that was it uh and this is I mean this is what he’s going to be known for like this is the thing I mean are we really surprised here that the guy who literally had a a Blog called hakeem’s dro the ball is picking Brian mil I I think your tagline was literally retelling the story of Brian mil or something like that wasn’t that your tagline uh it was something about like riding for Brian Mill or whatever is it still is that is it still exist I wonder if that still exists on blog spot it might that’d be amazing um Dave who you voting for uh I feel like Brian Millan was the precursor to Steve gleon uh he was he was like the uh The amuz Bu before we could get to Steve gleon um but it was great obviously it predates me but I understand the historical significance led to them uh winning their first uh playoff game so I gotta go with that I I mean the thing I’ll say the difference I’ll say between like Steve gleon and Brian as far as just the football is the Atlanta game the the the vibe it was the beginning of the game but the Vibes were good we were all happy just the saints were back the Dome was had this positive energy and then gleon took it to a whole other level right Andrew right before that Brian mil recovery like the Dome was about to like implode and like die like the Saints had were crushing the Rams it was like 28 to 10 and it was like this is a party for three and a half quarters three quarters and 10 m or 12 minutes or whatever and the Rams were like rampaging back the Saints had lost like three people in the secondary due to injuries and it was like the Rams are gonna get this ball March down the field score and win this game and and the Saints are gonna not only lose another playoff game so they’ll be 0 and five in the playoffs but they’ll have Commit have allowed this like the great maybe the greatest fourth quarter comeback in playoff history it was incredible what the Rams did and like boom boom boom and it was just like oh my God and based on the Saints playoff history I mean we were completely panic panic yeah we were like we we were like this is happening we’re we’re blow we’re blowing this game somehow and it’s going to be horrific cuz this is what the Saints do and then Brian Mill makes that play and really like I will say this it was less about Brian and more about hakee AZ hakee dropping that ball you did that all the time by the way and for the record the Saints did Oz hakee a solid and they later gave him a contract for dropping that ball which was the right thing to do right so when you say Saints Legend AE yeah it’s true it’s true um but uh you know well then he should be on this list then he should be AE should be I agree but I’m I’m going with I’m sticking with mil uh we know Kevin is we know he’s biased yeah biased in 2000 wow in 2005 aak Keim for the Saints 34 catches 489 yards and two touchdowns yeah he wasn’t that bad 20 oh mil to Thomas announced announced the RS announced the what announce the winner Thomas R that and the winner is Ryan Mill I will I will say one thing for Keith Mitchell um my wife yelled at me the other day because somebody asked us our annary they said when’s your anniversary I gave him the wrong date but when Tom Thomas was like I can’t find any Keith Mitchell video I was like Arizona 2000 third quarter he picks off a pass touchdown that sounds yeah know right in the in the memory bank in the memory bank forever locked in but I give B but credit too but will he he let me know that like every like Prime Time highlight from Chris Burman and Tom Jackson is like cut up and on YouTube somewhere that you can just you can just pull it so going next week uh end of next week I am going to Key West any of if any of you guys have recommendations uh or any of our listeners have recommendations I am willing to listen to them Hemingway’s house of course obviously and they have a cat catsy right in vote for our very own Dave as a one hit wander in this bracket for his prediction of K replacing Lumis and Lumis wildly chewing gum and saying it was made up that was very long how long how long uh I’m going to go to the Hemingway house I don’t need to go see a woman that trains cats that doesn’t really seem like something I’m interest tricks it’s good she’s got like 50 of them they do like tricks they you know oh they don’t have diabetes it’s amazing well then I don’t care because I only I only like cats that have diabetes oh yeah so uh Thomas give us a donation update before we get to questions yeah yeah yeah boy Allan freshley the new MVP leader right behind him is bdri and we are less than 50 bucks away from the I’ll drink it drink the second drink PB&J whiskey I’ll drink it and it’ll go great with the ghost pepper Blanco did you already have the first drink I did 4 weeks in a row it was disgusting uh it was ghost it was called disgusting it was disgusting uh are we still going here should I get a drink or yeah we are we got we got questions hit the hit the finger guns Thomas we got questions to do this has the potential of being the longest show a full time by the way wow [Music] Jesus by the way the live show is coming together uh it’s going to be a sports drink again hopefully we’re we’re uh we’re getting stuff together kind of kind of we’re getting stuff together and by the way all the people that made promises commitments to getting Thomas in via VIA horong carriage and smuggling him in from Poland getting my DMs we got to get was one person it was one person we got to get that settled we got to get that settled or we got to just leave Thomas and Poland uh uh forever so he’s willing to fly he’s willing to fly Thomas what’s first up uh all right first question let’s hurry up so that we’re done by the time Andrew gets back that’s right first question from Saints rabbit he asks if you could replace travel penalty with an inanimate object on the field what object would you choose this a great question Turn Style final answer no you want it to work you don’t need it to be easy you need it to be you don’t want it to be accurate you want it to be good so it can help the Saints cus a chainsaw a saguaro cactus yeah a chaina yeah Kevin if you went land if you went landm and and and the other team knew that it was a landmine and it was the left tackle do you think that could help with the protection because they know if they if they as long as they avoid it yes they’ll be fine but if they step on it they die yeah but if they step on it the shrapnel’s probably going to hit some of our other offensive linemen multiple landmines W of landmines highrisk High reward Kevin I’m trying to help the offensive line they need all the help they can get no no no no no you want to design The Mao line thinking that’s going to be just fine to work as an offensive line and clearly history isown us the Mago line does not work I’m not going to lie Dave uh Venezuela and rum overrated diplomatic diplomatic Andrew if you could if you could replace Trevor Penning with an an inanimate object What Would Trevor penalty actually Trevor penalty what would you do if you replace him with an N an object uh traffic cone see but that doesn’t I I would say you not think you’re thinking like accuracy of his talent I’m thinking you want to improve upon like if you if you want it if you want oh no I was thinking Improvement oh you think traffic cone would be in traffic a traffic cone doesn’t jump off sides and it doesn’t hold see I set a cactus cactus would be good oh I like that better yeah Cactus would be more effective at blocking for sure something stinky guys something stinky I think what about a copper head an open barrel of oil casket an open casket funeral they not over the oil drum there’s oil everywhere people start slipping but again it could be Saints offensive people slipping too I like that question thanks saints rer that was a good question Thomas what’s next okay uh next question what about a Game of Thrones episode where it’s just so gruesome you look away you what about a brid what about a Bridgerton episode oh what about like Miss we get a Bridgerton question like a giant poster of a playmate like Miss January 1987 and it’s like life siiz no see see I think I I think there are football players that are secret that are really into Bridgerton so maybe what you do is you get the old you have a substitute teacher wheel in the DVD player you know like like on the with the TV that’s like strapped down on the contraption you have it out to theack and she starts playing an episode of Bridgton and suddenly they’re all riveted by the going on on the TV and then boom they’re not they’re not running after Derek Carr they’re not chasing after Al there you go I agree uh are you guys familiar with lar you guys know what that is laring yeah laring yes live action role playing you familiar my cousin’s really into this we we like toule on him unmercifully for this I’m sure he’d really appreciate that I’m bringing this up but like he’ll so he’ll go to like yeah he’s a grown adult and he does this he’ll he’ll go to like I’m so not sure I follow he he’s a grown adult that will go like for a weekend of his time like he’s married with kids and he will go for fun dress up as a wizard in the woods and like cast spells on his buddies like that’s that’s like his idea of a good time and like I said we tease him mercifully for this but I I uh and to his credit he own to his credit like he owns it he’s like yeah I like doing it what do you want for me so like yeah yeah yeah yeah I think they say I say they say things like sleep death like they you they’ve got like magic wand and they you know anyway I think my God we don’t I just overdosed on nerd like I’m dead like it’s as nerdy as it gets but I would want a laring wizard as my right tackle over Trevor penalty and maybe the Spells the hit points would work that’s where I was going with that what about night May night wait a minute hold up hold up you know Dave it occurred to me that all these nerds that do that like they do their whole thing in the woods and then when they’re done and they go home like to base it I it dawned on me that there might be like some weird fetish things going on that I I never want to know about Civil War reenactments but like the next like like a thousand times worse I don’t know man I live in Virginia I’ve been to Williamsburg for those Civil War reenactments and they’re pretty bad too bro wow boy you know I like listen when I say I’ve been there like I’ve been to Colonial Williamsburg I have not participated let’s be clear here I mean no I don’t think Colonial Williams B has any has any like conservative I think get strict he warps as a wizard on the weekends seriously dressing up dressing up as another character dressing up as another character is low lowest common denominator offended Kevin and his friends Kevin you do it all the time your skate lowest common denominator stuff stand for it oneing while wrestling to me you will not telling me that I mean dressing up as a bloody wizard it’s just it’s a her bolics I tells you I can’t understand why a grown man would go and hang out with his friends and go and do something silly like trps into the woods I don’t even know what I mean you can’t even go back and have a pint and just and just talk with your pals there no we got to go Oly booly booly and wave a big stick at somebody and say poof and hope that they know that they’re supposed to be hit or goord I don’t understand you go watch Thrones for that watch marinho accuses me of participating he says I go in full wizard costume Andrew would never you will never see me dead in a wizard costume first of all Kevin Alfredo he says Jude we are the grown adults that take time off to play Fantasy Football like we’re WN to be football coaches like touche fair point like I I actually think that would be my cousins to retort to when I toou on him he’d be like don’t you play the nerdy football game where you pick players and then you get points when they score touchdowns and he would he would try to make some false equivalence there between him dressing up as a wizard in the woods um anyway I love my cousin dearly we we’re close but that’s but fantasy football is just gambling does he can he win money when he dresses up as Harry Potter on the weekends I don’t think so depends on spell depends on which spell he casts he does it for enjoyment I mean look maybe he needs to do something a little more respectable and talk to his Pals on a week night it via video chat about certain things and perhaps they could live stream it on a service where the people watching them could throw him a couple of gold coins I I’m something something reasonable and mature not sophomoric stuffs and bones with little notches carved in it none of that nonsense her sh I need to ask I need to ask Sy if dressing up as a wizard on the weekends is the most white thing she’s ever heard of dressing up as dressing up as a wizard on the weekend the most white thing you’ve ever heard of what kind of he says she says first of all first of all what kind of wizard are we talking about uh Ralph that would uh white or black or red that would she says that’s talk is what she said her exact words God if you want I mean look Wasington wizard I I I feel I I feel less terrible about how much I play tennis when I think about that so wow what about pickle ball which pick Ball’s probably worse than LARPing honestly Andrew if you saw if you saw a wizard playing pickle ball would you murder them uh you know a wizard playing pickle ball I think would be me entering hell I think I think I think that’s actually what hell would look like for me it’s like Welcome to our pickle ball tournament enter and and you have to put on this cloak you know before you before you compete Thomas that’s when I would know I was dead and I he quick question from the chat quick question from the chat your boy Alan asks how many bits to have you all dress as Wizards I you you’d L literally have to pay me $500 to dress as a wizard it’s not that you just you pay if you pay for the wizard suit I’ll I’ll wear it bits for a b sense where you at man right Kevin has something next thas and then uh my gu Kevin’s laughing you [ __ ] ler Kevin fellow fellow wizard I mean I got I gotta say I was surprised when I brought up the term Lar I was surprised how quickly all three of you were like oh yeah yeah I didn’t know that you guys knew exactly what I was talking supicious I thought laring had something to do with a straw and somebody’s butthole I didn’t know oh my God you know I’m not sure that it doesn’t yeah I I was surprised when when when I told you my cousin was really into it well when Kevin explained and and and went through each letter of the acronym that was what’s what’s next Thomas you thought it was BDSM right yeah what’s next Thomas again I just thought it involved a straw and uh body parts and post qule a a straw and a butthole in a VCR final question of the show from Aldi marinho venon Davis cutting through the Saints in 2011 the Min of the miracle in 2017 all the Nola no call in 2018 which of those Saints teams would you have had the best chance at winning it all if Lady Luck or vinovich hadn’t crabbed the bed consider age and health of the team each of these years this is a good question I mean I I I would put I would definitely put 2017 last Minnesota miracle I that dead last I ex I was about to say it’s either between 2011 or 2018 I Eagles Eagles would have beat the absolute piss out of the Saints the following week in my opinion based on just based on the heater that they were on that year oh in 20 in 2017 2017 I think the Eagles would beat the piss out of the Saints and it was just they they were they caught fire like at that stage of and the Saints had no line yeah I I maintain that in 2011 and in 2018 the Saints would have won the Super Bowl both of those years if they had won those games but uh 28 if gun to my head I’m picking 2018 just because it was a game further so the Saints would have hosted the Giants had they beaten the 49ers in 2011 and then they would have had to play the Patriots who I think were 16 and0 that year is that right Ral no no that was 2007 Patriots the 2007 Patriots so it was the but but it was Eli beating the Patriots that year yeah to me the Patriots were much stronger Tom Brady was much better so like that would like beat I I think at home against the Giants I believe we would have won that game and gone to the Super Bowl but like beating Brady in the Super Bowl like I don’t like Eli did it but like I don’t know how that would have gone the thing is but like 2018 like the Brady was washed the Patriots were terrible and like basically the only reason they won that game is cuz belich pantsed Jared gof and he didn’t know what to do and like he wouldn’t have been able to do that to Drew we 100% would have won the Super Bowl that year yeah and the thing is the 2011 Saints Greg Williams the way he played defense as proven against Vernon Davis it could so like if they would have beat the the 49ers I think they would have beat Eli at home because that like that was when they were just like Kevin they were just like unbeatable at home from like 2011 to 2013 with Sean and P they were just like unbeat right so I don’t know that but but like that Greg this question deserves it own [ __ ] episode like we can do an we can do an entire [ __ ] episode on this one [ __ ] question yeah it’s a great question now well well there’s people in the chat that are talking about 2011 and saying like that might have been the Saints best roster I mean it was the best offense for sure that defense like Greg Williams was Reckless and they they were I don’t you remember the safeties and the second like The Bigs that they were giving up my God and it wasn’t just that 49ers game it wasn’t just that game so like I I hear you guys like offensively sprouls and Jimmy Graham like that offense was insane in 2011 but like there’s no telling what Eli Manning and and Brady would have done to that defense and we could have gotten in a shootout and those games could have gone either way the Saints would have had to win two games to win a Super Bowl but in 2018 that call changes and we’re in the Super Bowl so we’re talking about one game just Atlanta and it’s in Atlanta it would have been like 80% the saint I like I am steadfast on we all would have been there no way Saints are losing that game there’s no way the Saints would have lost that game and Kevin I for I forgot about 2011 Megatron absolutely cooked the Saints the week before the San Francisco game it just didn’t matter scor at will but Megatron C them in way I think it’s the greatest single person performance I’ve ever seen like Mega they were late in that game they triple teamed him they literally triple teamed him late in that game Thomas you’re right what’s the record for the longest show we’ve ever done this is going on an hour 53 15 I think this is 145 146 right now uh so so uh thanks to everybody definitely done longer than that there was a show where we were like let’s just keep we got we got to do another show after yeah that’s right so Thomas uh thank everybody who donated give us give [Music] us damn what your internet Ral Ralph’s internet sucks he wants a recap you’re not right I am hasn’t been our finest by the way I appreciate that you have a Brian Mill head on your wall beautiful R and Ste two of them uh all right thanks to everyone who donated uh amazing show we are on a 46 week donation streak wow let keep it that way thanks to Tiger jet 21 thanks to Ali marinho to hudat goer to badri and to my surprise for the first time this off season with 56.6 B Cruz the MVP who is oh my gosh the only your boy thank you Alan thank you Allan you’re this close to 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