College sports turning into NASCAR & championship winning rosters | College Football Enquirer

On today’s episode, Dan Wetzel, Ross Dellenger and SI’s Pat Forde react to news of the Big 12 exploring selling their naming rights to a corporate sponsor. Dellenger explains all of the complex details that will go into a conference changing names, as Forde and Wetzel make fun of the potential outcomes.
After the break, Wetzel shares a trend among national championship-winning rosters over the past four years that includes the team’s returning their head coach, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, and quarterback. They discuss the handful of teams that fit that criteria and project how they’ll fare in 2024.
Later, they check in the College World Series jello shot competition, joking about which teams are struggling the most.
To wrap the show, producer Joe recaps his ridiculous fantasy football punishment from over the weekend, where he had to sit in a McDonald’s for 24 hours.

0:00 Introduction
1:34 Big 12 naming rights
34:43 Championship winning formula
43:45 Jello shot standings
49:17 Joe’s McDonald’s challenge

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[Music] all right welcome to pod everyone who is a father had a good Father’s Day at least the non dead beats out there was I wish father Happy Father’s Day to all the fathers some of them not so good Happy Happy Father’s Day to everybody except the dead beats happy Monday I know our listeners wouldn’t do that but hope you got the big piece of chicken at dinner people left you mostly alone yeah it’s all it’s great day isn’t it pat absolutely uh wonderful wonderful day I uh Wasing swim swam I was working in a NFL stadium with swim swam competition swim swam competition hey my my middle son came through with a tip on a story that actually all right he gave me a good I did see that story that is very good the woman won and her brother watched what at at the grave of of her uh yeah yeah their father yeah it was a little yeah it’s a little emotional little emotional yeah that was A Mitchell 40 tip that was a Clayton 40 tip Clayton I thought when he said tip I thought he had a tip on the like like a horse like you’re betting these things okay uh anyway uh big news in college sports came last week uh reading from a Ross Dellinger report Big 12 Conference is explored ing a naming rights partnership that may be one of the most lucrative and unique sponsorship deals in college athletics history in meetings with League administrators two weeks ago in Dallas Big 12 commissioner Brett ymar formally introduced a concept to sell the naming rights of the conference in a deal that would be worth hundreds of millions of dollars multiple sources tell Yahoo Sports Under The Proposal the conference’s name would undergo a sign significant alteration prominently incorporating a sponsor’s name in the title a common Trend among bowl games such as the Capital One Orange Bowl the relia quest Bowl uh which was formerly known as the Outback Bowl everything’s for sale and let’s just get to it I guess like no more no more pretending how soon are we getting the O’Reilly Auto Parts 12 well right now uh pending um a lot a lot more conversation in obviously a lot of hurdles because these things take take time and have complications they are they are uh zeroing zeroing in on a deal with all state it’s not not done like I said there are there are some complications with all this it sounds like but this has been something going on for about five or six months uh with the big 12 they have like most in college athletics right they expected a athlete Revenue sharing model to to begin and so they started to kind of work on how to generate additional Revenue um everybody’s trying to figure out how to uh generate Revenue especially if you’re not in the SEC and Big 10 you need more Revenue everybody needs more money uh and now they need more money to pay players directly and so they’re trying to find that money um so we soon within I would say by early next year maybe by the end of the fall or so football season you know we could have some kind of announcement from the Big 12 about all state or some other partner um and then there’s there’s others other stuff going on right the the Conference USA is uh been talking to Globe Life to be the Globe Life conference or the Globe Life Conference USA oh um in in I believe uh the American in Mount West are exploring the same thing I don’t think they’re down the road as the other two but uh yeah welcome to the commercialization of uh the full commercialization of College athletics all the rules to legislate competitive equity in college sports are falling including the rules that uh Cost Containment rules that handcuff um schools and conferences from earning additional Revenue through these sorts of things um and and all those rules are starting to fall so as we discussed I think a couple weeks ago right the the first kind of I guess one of the first forids into this was post the settlement was the NCA allowing a corporate logos to be on football field so that’s coming as well and there’s going to be other stuff right this is there’s no end in sight on what uh what you can you can blast paste on a uh Stadium Field conference let’s do it uh yeah it’s coming Pat yep um I I can’t summon much outrage on this one uh the names of the conferences haven’t made any damn sense for years the Big 10 went to 11 in the 90s and kept going from there and still called themselves the Big 10 the Big 12 has 16 the Atlantic Coast Conference is on the Pacific coast as well so you know I I can’t get too weepy about uh the Traditions that are attached to the names of the conferences go ahead and sell them especially I pointed out last week if it’s going to keep people from cutting Sports if this is whatever money needs to be brought in if if the alternative is well you know we don’t have enough money so we’re whacking Sports I’d say go ahead and sell the field sell the jerseys sell the name of the conference give me the Wendy’s Baconator Big 10 I don’t care the uh like the the league that held on to the Purity the best was the Pack 12 which was the pack 10 right and I mean yeah was a pack eight then they went pack 10 now they did add Arizona and Arizona state which are not technically on the Pacific but let’s not you know let’s not get too carried away it’s pretty close no they’re contiguous and in the time zone good enough sometimes they’re in the time zone right sometimes like half the year um Phoenix confuses me but that’s all right um and then they went to pack 12 when they added Utah and Colorado those were not but you know close enough close enough and guess what that got them they don’t exist anymore I think they’re calling themselves like the beaves and cougs after dark now well and Dan do you remember like um this was 10 12 years ago Pat I remember this you know that one of the things that big 12 is doing also is is exploring the private Equity uh situation well pack 12 had a chance to do that if you guys remember like 10 12 years ago they had a chance to get a lot of money fast by entering a private Equity deal and uh and they decided against doing it uh presidents were a little apprehensive of it and and presidents still are by the way I I don’t I don’t know you know if you got these two things the big 12’s looking at naming rights in private equity it naming rights has way more support I think within the league to to do than the the private Equity um route all right so the naming rights um so it’ be like the All State how many they going to have 14 the name emerging right now is the All State 12 so they would keep they’re wanting to retain 12 I know that doesn’t a lot of people say doesn’t make too many sense I see Pat shaking his head and I understand it right there’s 16 teams in the conference I think those within the league believe they’re more known for the the 12 than the big so they’re removing the big the plan is to remove the big and keep the 12 um that is that is the disc that’s been the discussion the last month is All State 12 is what they would be okay so there’s 16 teams but they want to keep the 12 yeah okay yeah that’s right they think this is going to help uh well it’s going to help financially because well it’s going to help financially all it’s the 12 I’m I’m hung up on so they think like the average person if you hear all state 12 you go oh yeah Kansas State yeah absolutely Oklahoma State Iowa State like yeah I think the number 12 in a league in the League’s name for whatever um reason you know they believe there’s a connection point right with 12 in in in their league um just like with you know Big 10 10 I guess you could say I don’t know um how long is that big 10 commercial going to be this year where they go everything popping up across the yes yeah they win the I love that big commercial by the way I love it I love the little like carto things they’re going to adding but now I want the version of that I need that the Big 10 can win the electoral college they in so many states like what what is this thing that’s how they should do election night they should have that they should right right all these networks are struggling with their ratings election night like all of a sudden in the little we won Kansas and they have the little pop there a sunflower or something I don’t know what like Trump holding a sunlow pops up B get the guy in there bid wins Delaware he’s like tanning himself at lose Beach or whatever like yeah um no okay we don’t need that H all right so um All State 12 it just I just I keep laughing it becomes more and more like NASCAR because like like as a reporter okay you cover NASCAR you go and then like okay this is like whatever guy wins it I don’t want to pick with the current drivers uh but let’s just say you know it’s like Tony Stewart and you know or just pick a normal guy Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy Smith wins and you go hey Jimmy how was it winning the race he’s like well you know all state 12 Chevy uh O’Reilly’s Auto Part uh Bucky’s Waffle House uh Ford uh tires were great and you’re like come on man I’m trying to write a column here I appreciate you don’t even get sentences they just utter it’s just this verbiage they’re just reading their sleeves like we we’re coming to it right like the All State 12 that is a race car yall State 12 was handling through the corners the the State Farm 8 was up in the marbles they couldn’t get out like go ahead when I first heard about this probably now over a month ago uh my original reaction was why not just do all state Big 12 right like Capital One Orange no one would call it the All State Big 12 then they just call it Big 12 exactly no it really it’s it’s about it’s about us let’s be clear it’s about the media and the and how we write it how we present it and we’re not going to write all state Big 12 none of us write all state sugar ball we write sugar ball that’s another thing by the way I mentioned all the com complications in this all state sponsors plenty of other other things in college athletics outside of the Big 12 right so all state sugar ball how about the All State Nets the basketball court and the football so you’re gonna have another yeah you’re gonna have another I think that’s their best one yeah good you’re in good hands yeah yeah so that you’re going to continue that sponsorship while you’re the name of another conference so if you’re like in the SEC Big 10 whatever like behind your your Nets or your gold whatever Ral conference name yeah yeah do so that was my my one question out of this um also I I looked all state I Believe by far is the this was this was a few years ago data but maybe 2021 was by far the biggest advertising buyer on college football telecast if they’re going to pay a $100 million to a conference are they taking that money out of their TV expenditure because then ESPN and fox may say I don’t really like this plan if all the people that are advertising for major dollars on our networks are suddenly going to start trying to name conferences is that going to create a conflict of monetary interest there there’s no conflicts of monetary interests momes and auto 12 he’s a State Farm how much are we overpaying for insurance how much are we over paying for insurance a lot these commercials are everywhere absolute ripoff can’t get Cruz on this call your guys uh Ross why does the insurance companies have so much money to fund all this stuff bring them right up again Dan you know better than I do the US Senate I’d be happy to talk to Ted Cruz about this issue uh I don’t have a personal line of communication to him like you I I mean their commercials are every we got Flo you got Jake from State Farm you got I mean I don’t know that damn emu emu Liberty Mutual emu Liu emu all this stuff they’re just endless and now where would we be if we weren’t overpaying for home and auto bundle it so you can save the Big 12 would you all right how about this would you be if you’re a big 12 fan are you more inclined to switch your your get the boat in there all you Iowa State drunks out on that that lake lake get your but your boat on there do you would you switch to help the conference that is residual n question I like I I that’s always been my what I’ve wondered is like do people sit there and watch TV and and these commercials make them switch their insurance I I can’t imagine and now is it really going to out like conference loyalty would it make you do something like that they do they must it must cuz they do the ads I guess but with conference loyalty is a different bit and then if you like hate the like I don’t know like you sit there and go I can’t be with all I can’t be with all state because I’m an SEC guy yeah well if you’re Iowa in the same state with Iowa State I’m dropping all state I’m not going to help the Cyclones it’s like that their beer Wars right yeah I don’t know this is a good one for the dynamic here where Ross patiently and very diplomatically explains the issue and we just make fun of it yeah I know is unfair to Ross he’s just no it’s fine it’s uh it’s entertaining I I hear from people often who uh po who love this Dynamic that plays out on the Pod uh quite often I don’t think we’re making fun of this one this mon we’re not like pushing back I push back a little hard sometimes on Ros well I shoot the messenger you all have an understanding this is needed I’m all for this I’m all for this I mean don’t the pack did none of these things they no longer exist okay so listen this is what you got to do whatever like I said a couple uh when we talked about the the the patches on the uniform I don’t like the patch on the uniform I like the pure uniform I think one of the that’s coming of course but one of the greatest things about college football and basketball is the unifor I was watching College World Series this weekend right it was Friday night unbelievable game Tennessee Florida State Tennessee comes roaring back and wins they are a great team and they’re leading the jello shot thing we’ll get to that um but I think vs are going to get stopped either way on and off the field in the in the in the jell shot and on the field The Falls are are taking this thing in Omaha but the the uniforms like you tune in and both teams uniforms were just they were just totally crisp I it just fantastic and you immediately knew these two teams and the brands and the colors and the something I I could not name I don’t watch baseball at all I only will watch it’s pretty much only thing I will watch is the College World Series and um not I’m not sitting here saying I that was the only game I watched this weekend but I did watch I think I saw like an inning of a North Carolina game um but it it just the it’s just the brand it’s just bang there it is and so I I love that and I don’t want a patch on that you those uniforms the football uniforms the whatever where I go oh but when they put the it kind of went away when they put the Nike Swoosh on the Penn State one back in the day so this is where we’re at I don’t like it i’ prefer it but I understand you gotta you know like you said there’s a Vista Print Vista Print right what is Vista Print they’re printing things nobody4 there’s printing like I haven’t had a printer in 10 years we have a printer because my kids are in school and you still got to print stuff but like getting the ink is a like it’s a nightmare I can’t wait to just throw that thing out I’m GNA go office uh office space on that thing office space get but like Vista Print is on the damn Boston Celtics like so this is where we’re at it’s going NASCAR there’s going to be patches up and down the arms everyone’s going to do it hey I’d Ro as long as we’re playing college football I’ll I’ll deal with it but there will be some people who will stroke when that happens at Notre Dame Penn State Alabama uh Michigan Ohio State but if again I will I will default back to if if if it helps wrestlers still have a a program I’m okay yeah I well and Jersey yeah Jersey patches I would think by I don’t know 2027 that that we’ll have um the per schools will be permitted to to put corporate sponsors probably only a limited amount and a limited size of patches on uh on player jerseys and shoot I mean when what about a coach too you a coach’s shirt you know I mean look the refs the officials I mean this this is it’s it’s it’s coming and we should all be prepared for it and this is one of the uh this is one of the doors that that open when uh when you when you when you Rel uh you and Implement Implement rules to allow payment uh which is like a business now I mean we we’ve got a everybody’s got to kind of like come to grips at the major college level that it really is not amateur sports anymore probably hasn’t been in a while uh it’s a business and it’s going to be operated like a business which means the commercialization I’m looking at a couple Premier League jerseys English Premier League soccer I mean these things are these B these these franchise worth billions yeah Global audience is insane I mean Liverpool it says is a swoosh on one chest there is the LFC and the little like rooster whatever they got up there someone’s going to kill me for this chicken this little chicken thing or whatever little this is their actual logo and then across the chest it says Standard Chartered that’s the big the this is not just a little thing right uh Manchester United right kind of a big deal they got the Adidas they got their Crest I don’t know what’s in the middle of that like a lion maybe I don’t know and then team viewer with a logo across the chest like the team is secondary to the sponsor yeah and that’s just that’s just how it’s going to be um and so you can see where this is this is this is going to be weird the naming rights thing back to it really quickly the naming rights thing the reaction around College athletics was really interesting um cuz I think there were administrators especially in SEC and Big 10 who kind of shook their head at this but then there was a couple that I a couple phone calls I got from for instance the ACC and it was why the hell are we not doing this and and so it’s it’s been interesting mix to to see and then on the group of five level we discussed pretty much every one of those conference Commissioners are looking at some version of this Conference USA probably further down the road than than others but it’s it’s interesting if you are in a position in the Big 10 and SEC uh where you don’t need to do this right you kind of look at it a different way yeah so a couple of points there one that once again at least in terms of perception this looks like Brett yormark getting out in front and maybe the ACC and Jim Phillips not quite being on that Cutting Edge and being more in a reacting uh position than a pro acting position now you know different leagues different constituents and I could see they’ll still get plenty of money some people in the ACC yeah yeah like pushing back but then I could see others saying hey we’re we’re we’re dying over here allegedly because we don’t have the money uh and we need to be doing this secondly yeah the SEC and the Big 10 don’t need to do this but they also can do it and what if they eventually decide you know what if these other place is going to get 100 million we’ll go get 100 million just stay that much further ahead than them we’ll get better bigger name more expensive uh sponsors and become the Wendy’s Baconator Big 10 yeah I mean they didn’t need to go to 18 teams either but they no Jim Delaney didn’t need to get a $20 million Consulting bonus but he he could yes uh I the smaller leagues forget it you got to do I mean I I had a rung and gag for a while about the Atlantic Sun the basketball leue I don’t think they play football and that was just either a two Star cruise ship or a uh or smoke fi cassino outside Jacksonville like it’s not really a conference is it who actually named that like that some of these could really get I mean you really do you care what the Northeast conference’s name is the Metro Atlantic the a yeah the max beg I mean you got to take your bucks take them no Maxin look they got some possibilities there oh yeah I mean to make it out but here’s something what um what if and it’s not really if it’s when when a title sponsor changes his contracts up and doesn’t renew I mean the leak the league changes right we see it all the time in golf tournaments or bowl games we saw in bowl games like conferences would just change names I guess yep yep I mean that’s how you get the roia quest after the Outback after the whatever you know the sit I mean the Outback was named for a stake chain Steakhouse chain and then reli Quest came in so yeah that’s just nothing is permanent that’s for sure we see that with stadium names too you know they change every 10 years 15 years whatever the lease agreement is I mean I think we could I can’t keep up to all the different uh stadium names anymore I think we can all pour one out for the pulon weed eater Independence Bowl I mean really was the the the original that was the original sin was the pulon weed eater Independence B right yeah yeah it was yeah yeah when the independence added Pand weed eater weed whacker Bowl yeah yeah that that that got us going I mean we’re still everyone’s still talks about that they haven’t even sponsored the thing since like 2010 I think or something like yeah they’re on probably like their 23rd sponsor became like a uh like a it was like your coach is on the hot seat if you wound up at the pulon weed eater Bowl it was a bad seat like went exact opposite that’s right Dan let’s talk about money yeah how much how much money yeah yeah like uh the the naming rights for the league is the Big 12 the number the Big 12 has discussed has been $500 million how many years over 10 years for 10 over 10 years 50 million a year million a year yeah so you’re you’re talking about three to 3 to four I think 3 to four million per School per year now uh we we discussed here Jersey Pat the Jersey patch thing Jersey patches the corporate logos on the football field you know the football field logos depends on what school it is right depends on a lot of the brands and all this stuff but that could be two to five to seven million per year Jersey patches are one of the more lucrative from what I’ve been told if if they and that’s just why eventually they’ll Institute this I had someone tell me who who does this for a living eight you know like a school like Alabama you know the top 20 30 programs a jersey patch on football basketball could generate 10 plus 10 to 15 million a year um so it’s it’s pretty significant for one school you know that’s one school so that’s somech no that’s at the highest level but I cannot wait for the NCA subcommittee on how many patches we will allow it’s the playing rule it’s the playing rules oh my head just let him put as many as they want rules over they will spend three years debating this always a the size the location always at a hotel with the word Palm or Vista in it oh we all seven we’re gonna I think seven patches no no no no five let’s meet again next year down Amelia Island we’ll discuss it we’ll table it for now yeah oh yeah would five patches be too much for the mental health of the athletes this is this is my thing though be ready for the shot cuz you talked about the sponsorships changing and this is why I brought up the Premier League stuff I probably didn’t explain it well but like that’s the Jersey is your Standard Charter is what it says it doesn’t say Manchester United or whichever one they were I think that was Standard Charter so like the Jersey you had two years ago could be obsolete because that’s not what it looks like anymore because the big huge logo like and people have gotten used to it overseas because I you buy a Boston Celtics Jersey has a little mates his Vista Print but that’s not the Celtics part the Hoy toest of the schools don’t have their name on their jerseys because they don’t need it like there doesn’t say Alabama on the Jersey it just it’s the Crimson jersey with the number and then you got the A on the or no you got the numbers on the helmet right Notre Dame is just a gold helmet and a blue jersey and gold pants it don’t say Notre Dame on it are fighting Irish um same with you know Ohio State and Michigan but um but yeah I I it will be massively jarring for people to all of a sudden if if depending how big and splashy these patches may be all of a sudden that’s the only wording on your jersey and yeah it changes every five years or 10 years or whatever oh yeah I mean some of these companies that jump in right um but yeah there it is no you have to name it or else they won’t call it that cuz like they’ve done that with the stadiums yeah yeah oh yeah TD Garden right they call it Garden no or the TD doesn’t you know so now it’s like it’s not it’s crypto.com stadiums and stuff like that yeah I don’t know what the the cost difference would um the price difference would be with uh if you went all state Big 12 versus All State 12 but I’m guessing it’s significant enough yeah yeah it is funny though you’re right Ross like that we are largely to blame for because we we don’t go along with these corporate names I remember when I was at ESPN and I would write the Bold Dash and write cover everything they they made me include the corporate name because ESPN of course sponsored all the bowl games televised all the bowl games they owned right they own own a own most of them yeah yeah yeah so I would either have to look it up or I would just make the editors look it up and put it in for you remember when the Staple Center became crypto.com Arena Staple Center in LA and it was a 20 years they had been the the stap center they had like a they had like an event to talk about the like like a memorial go over Great Moments in Staple Center history they did there was some kind of and Staples is of course a you know Staples is a business name right there it’s a bu but the building wasn’t actually going anywhere right yeah you close Yankee Stadium you hey you know this is where yeah we’re gonna open another Yankee Stadium but babe brute didn’t play there I get it but this was like it’s the all you did was change the signs nothing else changed this naming rights debate has sparked quite a conversation on social media from fans of what they want their league what title sponsor they’d like their league to to change to um it’s been it’s been interesting you know the the Bucky SEC The Waffle House SEC um those things have been baned about I think it’s interesting I obviously All State doesn’t have really any I don’t think any Geographic link to the Big 12 footprint I not I mean I didn’t really look it up I don’t know if you guys know I have no idea like where their Central Hub is maybe it’s Dallas I have no idea but um but you know you would you would think that by conference uh the way this debate was going was it was maybe linking it you know to geography how about the Bojangles ACC bow time or just the Bojangle Conference of course yeah I think all state is Chicago Chicago I could be wrong yeah heart of the Big 10 okay it’s going to be yes I I mean if the SEC isn’t going to grab Waffle House then the sun Bel somebody we need a Waffle House com scattered the scattered smothered Sun Belt the trophy could be presented by Walt WAFF trophy could be scattered smother I mean we there’s so many opportunities here yeah uh yeah for the comedy it’s going to be great it’s going to be fantastic um so hopefully you guys uh you know rattle that can in college athletics and just keep on persevering during these tough times folks you can make it trying to make in you can make it it’s tough out there it’s tough it’s tough with the everything going up all your rights it is tough when you’re paying a bad offensive coordinator two years a buyout because you gave him a three-year contract and he sucked oh well and paying him the amount of money right that uh that probably uh would would would uh sustain multiple Olympic sport programs for a couple years gave him 1.9 million for three years or like 33 uh uh engineering scholarships to try to help you know hey what is this what are we 76 million to Jimbo Fisher that uh is the same amount needed probably to fund all of Texas adm’s Olympic sports for I’m guessing at least multiple years you know sure um multiple years so yeah well tough tough break for them maybe Jimbo can sponsor something yeah maybe he’ll he’ll donate back some of the money doubt it two ranches two ranches did I mention that did did I mention that on the on the Pod at some point I may have mentioned that during the the NCA the settlement with uh with for for house the back pay the 2.77 billion will go to you know whatever 15 20,000 athletes and and one of the one of the commissioners of uh of the the smaller 22 leagues who they are paying a lot of that money they’re paying 60% of that back pay asked me do you think any of those athletes would just donate that money back to us so we can like yeah that’s that’s how it works I’m sure that will happen yeah yes sure sure Trevor Lawrence is going to get like a $50,000 check and say you know what the ivy league really needs this back the ivy league would be the one that could not sell its rights right yeah that would be the one they they got too much there it’s too much money in The Prestige of an ivy you cannot change the ivy league not for sale I don’t know we get like the Saudi Arabian fund or something would have to come in on that but like live golf yeah I don’t know I think that’d be the one League the ivy league would be the last stand against a to Too Much brand he couldn’t afford it you can’t afford it uh all right we’ll be back after this message all right little football here uh I thought this was interesting on cbssports.com David Cobb wrote this the last 10 national champions in college football the last 10 which is basically the playoff era the whole playoff era each one had this common they returned entering the season that they won the championship they entered that season with three of these four positions returning or they had the these four things were going on they returned their head coach so no rookie coach want it no coach had a new job they returned their offensive coordinator they returned their defensive coordinator or they returned a quarterback who started at least four games the season before so they needed three of those four things so you could be without your defensive coordinator but you got the other three could have a new quarterback I guess that proba it must have happened but you had all your coaching stuff so they call it like this the core the core of the team head coach defensive coordinat offensive coordinat quarterback they had those four things each team had three of them many of them had four so who knows if this is you know hey it’s June right okay yeah we’re we’re scra this is a this is a barrel scraper as I would call but uh but it’s interesting kind of interesting right yeah we’re all looking for a formula to figure out who’s going to win listen David Cobb you did something you did something so I’m I’m I’m yeah good job uh so we’ll go through here teams that have that yeah Georgia Bulldogs Kirby Smart offensive coordinator Mike Bobo defensive coordinator Glenn Schuman and quarterback Carson Beck they got all four Texas Steve sarkeesian head coach offensive coordinator Kyle flood offensive coordinator Pete katowski I think it is and then obviously Quinn yers as their quarterback they are both four for four and those are the teams that really don’t need to be four for four it probably don’t you don’t want the Texas and georgees to be four for four on this no no a little scary now the Intriguing one here would be Ohio State only has two Chip Kelly is in place as the offensive coordinator and they will be uh they have will Howard playing quarterback now he started four games just not for Ohio State so I wonder if this stuff uh I’m not gonna just write that’s it Buck guys you’re done you had no shot now I mean hold on now but Dan what is the you you may you didn’t mention like the champions the last x amount of years have had this right 10 straight didn’t you say straight oh okay I must missed that for 10 wow so Ohio state would be your favorite to break this they are not in the they don’t even have they only have two again is is was Ryan Day really the like uh you know I’m not sure that offensive coordinator Chip Kelly I mean Ryan day was kind of the offensive coordinator right he was call was he I don’t know I’m not sure but intriguing they don’t have that um right other contenders Oregon has three they got all their coaches back and they’re putting Dylan Gabriel in for B Nicks so Dylan Gabriel is not is the one that’s missing Dylan Gabriel has started 400 college games so just in different uniform Missouri is three for four they got Eli drinkwitz Kirby Moore is the offensive coordinator quarterback Brady cook uh and then defensive coordinator is Cory baton for Blake Baker Florida state is three for four they had all their coaches they have dju coming in for Jordan Travis uh and then this one’s kind of interesting four for four Old Miss Rebels Lane kein Charlie Weiss Jr Pete Golding and quarterback Jackson Dart uh other notables outside of the threshold Ohio State obviously most notable Penn State is two for four Alabama is one of four all they got a quarterback Oklahoma’s one of four LSU’s one of four Michigan and Washington 0 for four they got nobody so yeah thoughts yeah I mean I again something what no and it’s one thing Sports Riders do I have tried to do this stuff like with basketball or with football is to find you know okay this is this establishes a trend a probability or whatever of who can win a championship and you can come up with all kinds of formulas I like this one because I do think continuity helps and we’ve talked even transferred quarterbacks in general the second year your transfer quarterback as your guy tends to be the better year that was the case for Washington with Michael penx that was the case for Oregon with bonck it was the case for LSU with Joe burrow uh and so on and so forth so getting it at a time when there’s less and less of it I think would be a very valuable commodity so I’m I’m in with David Cobb all right George is going to win at all I love Dan like hey it’s something I mean at least we’re not talking about F in Congressional hearing you know what I mean well that’s true did was there they passed the bill that we we already hyped that uh oh yeah we didn’t get to that didn’t yeah we’ll get we’ll get back we’ll get we’ll get back to that uh man the teams you don’t want to as mentioned earlier to satisfy these four things are the are the georgas and the Texas who who have uh so much talent already and uh and are are certainly feels like peing as as programs um so that’s going to be interesting old Miss is an interesting one too because we know how how good that uh that lane kein has um handled the the transfer portal and how often they get incredible amounts of talent it seems out of there um so that’s uh yeah that’s that’s it’s it’s it’s interesting I wonder who the last team was to win a National Championship and not satisfy three of those four things so 2013 was was Florida state which had a red shirt freshman quarterback named jamus Winston and I I don’t remember staff-wise like from a coord I’ll give you the okay so since 1998 just three of the 26 national champions oh yeah listen man David did a lot of work on David C’s work here that’s a couple days uh so Florida State in 2013 LSU in 2007 now that was the two lost never lost in regulation yeah there was they were nothing applies to 2007 that was just such a bat and the 2001 Miami Hurricanes um because they didn’t quite have they they didn’t quite have it because Larry Coker moved from offensive coordinator to head coach so it’s kind of two spots because Butch Davis but that defense the continuity was the defense didn’t yes Ed Reed Warren sa whoever was on that defense kind of they they declared all formulas n anyway it is that is pretty amazing yeah it’s a lot of work too it is that that’s a lot of work that that is a a commit Mr C um so I don’t know I find that old miss one very interesting I think they are a very very intriguing team but I I agree I think especially coaching staff continuity you know uh I think is a big deal and I think if you look last year at the Way Washington and just take Washington and Michigan as your Champions those two teams were just such teams like it they just maxed out what they could do so well and I think that’s why particularly uh Michigan which went through so much like Mayhem self-inflicted for the most part but Mayhem none two different suspensions of their head coach right uh Chiron Moore had a suspension like they had Jack Harbaugh technically coaching the team at one point right I mean they had everything go on and they just sort of plowed through it because they were in place of what they were doing uh nothing could rattle them and Washington very similarly maxed out what they were in terms of talent and all that so uh somewhat somewhat interesting all right uh rocos jell shot challenge update no rockos is the pizza joint in Omaha that genius a stroke of Genius decided to start selling uh not they sold jello shots I’m sure but they made it a contest and of course College sports fans lost their marbles trying to win uh which school they a little board at the rockos five bucks you buy a jello shot and you declare it for each team it’s in the College World Series and they keep stat they keep a chart and they put on social media and it’s Gone Bananas last year they raised $1 42,46 4 for uh campus food banks of all the participating teams and then some for the food bank for the Heartland in Omaha uh I think they are too generous they the owner should just keep yeah we we talked about that yeah you were like down on the owner respect the owner but in the spirit of Co we’re just talking about the pulon weed eater Bowl everyone else in college athletics pillages the coffers and then tries to claim poverty this guy’s actually helping poverty it’s the only good person in college that ah we ain’t got any money I got a I got a $2.6 million bonus coming in here we better sell the sell the Fe threaten to throw the wrestlers off campus this guy’s like I don’t need the money man I got he’s a pizza shop in Omaha how much money can he have he needs to sell like that you know the shot board that they take the picture of with the shot tally needs to sell advertising on that we need the the All State rockos Pizza board absolutely what’s the famous in Omaha what’s the famous take place uh oh uh drover the drover the drover uh Drover’s rockos jell shot challenge there you go cross promot they he should at least have a liquor sponsor right like the the jello shots made from Tios or something like that jell shot challeng Tios rockos jell shot CH kind of almost rolls off sford and Delany are just cackling and as they bathe in the cash uh yeah this guy’s doing it for for charity what oh son it’s naive anyway um go big orange I forget it 8556 for Tennessee um they are all they haven’t doubled them Texas A&M is 4700 Kentucky 4500 North Carolina 4,000 basically 4,100 uh then we got Florida State 3,300 uh Florida coming in sixth at 2,600 wow disappointing 2000 yeah just I it wow getting doubled by Carolina and then uh Virginia 12284 I think we could have that was the most predictable last Stanford was the last year well yeah yeah yeah yeah but out of this year’s field out of this year Virginia takes terrible effort Stanford was like bottles of like a good Mero like yeah we wi that but yeah and that’s I could see Virginia fans walking do you have a sh shot so we we said on the sh sh little dry little dry um oh not not 2018 that was an El [Laughter] Nino uh we predicted Tennessee was going to win uh and they are certainly going to win but uh most disappointing performance Pat NC State I mean should be super excited to be there and large fan base I I would have I would have thought better of them I I said Kentucky was a good Darkhorse and they’re at least in the mix at third but NC State should not be seventh uh I know we we expected Virginia to be last I didn’t know that they would be last by almost a thousand jello shots God brutal Florida Gators come on yeah that’s what’s what is the gator yeah that that is that’s probably the yeah that’s probably the most surprising one I guess yeah go need more out of you people uh by the way Tennessee’s got a a little bit of an advantage uh we I don’t know if we talked about this on the Pod but you know they’re their nio Collective which is one of the probably more heavily staffed aggressive you might say niio collectives in the country basically they’re they’re doing a uh a special uh that’s involved with the Rocco jell shot challenge fans are paying double per shot $10 per shot and half of that is going to the nil collectives nil efforts um so that’s probably a pretty good incentive hey double it up we’ll be back and we’ll take half go to the go to the uh funding the roster and then half will go to rockos and hey we can get on the uh the leaderboard here yeah Tennessee miss a trick they are on it all right important podcast news we’re here with a celebrity uh Joe Deon is our producer and uh Joe is not a very good fantasy football player uh in fact he finished last in his League finished last and he had to do a punishment the punishment he uh carried out on Saturday the punishment was he had to sit inside a McDonald’s for 24 hours no yes Joe had to sit inside of McDonald’s for 24 hours however he could consume various items from the McDonald’s menu to decrease his time okay all right I love this it’s as stupid as it sounds welcome Joe we’re glad you’re still alive okay that’s right um how much weight did you get in in the 24 hours I haven’t checked I am I am afraid to check and find out how much weight I’ve got do feel fatter I will say that it will he had 7,000 calories McDonald’s won’t be won’t be sponsoring the college football inquire anytime soon I’m loving it well they should cuz how many other podcasts have a guy willing to fight through and consume 7,000 calories of McDonald’s so let’s say you uh you could have you could have cut your 24 hours down by like 45 minutes by having a bacon egg and cheese biscuit okay you could have 30 minutes for the Egg McMuffin 45 for the sausage McMuffin with egg uh different ones 30 minutes for the sausage burrito Big Mac 45 minutes quarter pounder with cheese 60 so if you ate 20 I mean it take like a couple hours but let’s say you ate 22 Double Quarter Pounders with cheese you’re out you’re in you’re out it’s an easy afternoon you’re also you’re out of life in the hospital I didn’t make the rule uh how how long did it take and and what all did you eat I I was in and out of there in 8 hours so I I said this wow I told you this was good I told you this was good uh you think these other podcasts got a guy can fight harder than us we got adversity we to to be fair I think Shawn would have would have gotten out of there a lot quicker than Sean’s a lot lot bigger than that would that’s just a Saturday no exactly that that’s what he said we’ve had some aggressive eating producers yeah Sean Sullivan Sean Sullivan Never Saw V no um I I said I tracked the whole thing on Twitter and the first video I I posted I said that I was I’m too competitive to just sit there and like get in and out in 14 hours a buddy of mine who came in last place previously it took him 14 he’s a lot smaller than I am eight hours was the goal and I and I hit it and the total consumption was two big breakfasts with hot cake 17 hash browns 23 apples packets let’s start start yeah the hash browns were a mistake back it up back it up back it up back up go ahead go ahead go ahead you have to e consume everything too on the plate is somebody watching you what is this buddy was supposed to come watch me and he got stuck in traffic so he showed up at the end so there was nobody like holding eight hours of traffic hours he was driving up from San Diego he left in the middle of the day it took him five hours to get there okay jeez yeah what are you doing today I’m driving to a McDonald’s in LA to uh okay so the big breakfast what what is in the big breakfast for not all of us get the fortunately uh we want our listeners live because we need them um I I don’t think I’ll ever consume one of these again it was three thin pancakes the hot an egg mic like a an English muffin with nothing on it two really small pieces of bacon and then this like Cubed scramble egg probably like two eggs in there two three eggs big breakfast isn’t even that big two two one and a half something like that okay okay so you had two of those and that Let Me Wait I have the chart let’s see what did the big breakfast with hot cakes you lose two hours 120 Minutes that was really I should have had more of those that was my biggest mistake I went all in on the hash browns and those they were greasy M oh I okay that McDonald’s hash brown is that fried like I don’t like that I don’t I’m not a hash brown guy 25 minutes you get off the the the clock per and you did 18 of those 17 okay so tell us I was capped on the amount of that I was allowed to eat at the house why okay okay okay so I got an argument with my buddy who put this red sheet together talking to him I’m not we used to be friends he said I can only eat 17 hash browns in one day well he’s an ass he he was trying to make this as hard as possible for me uh and for my other buddy who who did this uh and I got in this argument because there’s only 160 calories in it and it’s 25 minutes off so I was arguing with them the calories are not Equitable to the amount of grease and just disgustingness of these things I don’t believe that that only has 130 really I I don’t either after I disaster it like soaks through the little but they’re small they’re so small right they’re pretty tiny yeah yeah I mean it sh in when you get 17 hash wait do you order like five at a time how does this work I I ordered AE on the app so I was trying to get points got to get your points this was my downfall which I did get an egregious amount of points by the end of this um my downfall was ordering them all ahead of time at once so I ate like six or seven of them and then they all to the P yeah it was just a mushy cold I’m hot soggy yeah no that was that was my downfall cuz I had to force myself to eat what was just a pile an amalgamation of just mushy potatoes for a good three hours hold on hold on now you could if you order something do you have to eat it or could you switch gears yeah could I could have TOS I mean how much is a how much is a hash brown Buck no those were like three bucks I spent the first order three bucks for one hash brown that’s not on the dollar thing it was a $70 purchase for the hash rounds and the two big breakfast yeah that was that was a killer and you had to pay this or did this come out of your fantasy League’s funds uh I had a side bit no no no and I can’t I paid for it but I had a side bit with the guy who made the spread sheeet so he’s paying me he’s paying me 100 bucks because I made it out of there in eight hours okay so you made 30 on that part well I guess that that’s only the big breakfast then covered the rest of the meals though cuz I had so many points by the this okay so now you how old are you I’m 26 26 you look to be in reasonable shape like you you know there’s some exercise involved in your life so like you’re you you you were equipped to handle this we’re not s well I also cheated a little bit in the sense that I went for like a a very long run in the morning I had to create buff so on that yeah I was wondering training what was the level of fasting beforehand what was cheating this is college football podcast cheating would be you found a place that like doesn’t you know they they they don’t cook it in the the heavy peanut oil or whatever they do at this place all right so 17 hash browns and how many calor is it that alone is 2,000 calories or more wait I could tell you I made my own separate spr I’m sure you did so I I I went all PFF on this I made sure to calculate the best ratio of calories this is why I fell for the hash browns I had a ratio of of calories to minutes taken off and the hash browns had the best one but it says I consumed 2,300 calories just worth of the hash browns anyway so all right after breakfast you moved on and then sit for a while then like what yeah for hours in there what I done I mean that I’ve got so this is gonna go long folks yeah this is I’m sure that there’s GNA be a lot of uh investigating could just done this and skipped the damn I’m curious about the employees what did you tell them anything yeah they no I didn’t say anything and I I picked up is it McDonald’s with a the homeless with the homeless gather they thought you were a homeless man in the corner really H I was worried I was worried that that was going to happen that they thought I was like camping out because I had nowhere to stay but I thought that I was a little bit put together enough that they wouldn’t think that in California they call him unhoused Ross on house sorry I I think the first like six hours they did didn’t notice and then the last two hours it took a radio spot on vison and I was kind of loud so they definitely figured out what I was doing at that point so you’re doing a radio show from the McDonald’s what McDonald’s is this it was the one in um like Sentry City okay so it was like near Santa Monica Beverly Hills kind of in the middle west side LA but they didn’t notice they I was hiding from them because they didn’t want them to know what I was doing no no all right so all right what’s for lunch the the lunch was Apples I ate 23 packets of apples so I five minutes per Apple per Apple slice pack God yeah there was not much return that like the healthiest thing in McDonald’s probably yeah by far so 23 but that’s it no cheeseburgers No Quarter Pounder No Big Mac the the McChickens I only had four of those that was the the the culmination I went so all in on the breakfast that I kind of had to sit there and wait for a little bit and just kind of wait for it to digest it also took me I think like four hours just to finish the hash browns because again they were mush so I had to kind of slowly every 20 minutes try to eat one of them and then kind of sit and wait a little bit but in the meantime I had so many people responding to me on Twitter so that that was all I was doing the whole time was just goofing off on Twitter the whole whole day you were entertaining yourself by entertaining your yeah right all right so you got 1 hour and 55 minutes off off for the apples is that is my math correct for 23 I mean yeah minutes okay and then you got uh 425 minutes the four McChickens so what is that that’s that’s seven hours off for the hash browns right 42 and then like a half seven and a half hours and then 4 hours no four for the four for the breakfast and then you did 10 McChicken sandwiches no four four McChickens 10 would have been Brut yeah okay all right I’m sorry I’m turned into a chicken by then uh and how much did you get for that oh 45 minutes so that’s three hours that was a cheat code that was the one the McChicken is the deal with the Mayo on it is that fried oh yeah it’s a little bit isn’t fried the Patty is so small so it’s like eating a cheeseburger it’s it’s very I I think if in retrospect yeah I I had to eat all of it I couldn’t you know I couldn’t skip this but the in retrospect I think what I would have done differently I would have done more McChickens cuz they were easy to eat and I probably would have done more of the big breakfasts because again those were light and they were a ton of minutes that were taken off for eating them yeah yeah Joey Chestnut ate 45 44 chicken nuggets in five minutes once now you would get 10 5 minutes you would only get 30 minutes off for 10 so that only would have gotten them couple hours I wonder how Joey would have attacked this he also did the he also did the Big Macs that were something crazy he’s got a bunch of McDonald’s yeah so all right next question okay you you you’ve you’ve evaded the suspicion of the McDonald’s staff how many times did you need to use the facilities along the way I was thinking of this too yes yes eating that stuff you’re probably clogged up yeah might still be it got to a point in the middle of the day where I definitely a break needed to be to be worked in I luckily only had to do it once because that bathroom was not very clean as one can imagine that’s yeah that’s the other thing is look where you’re doing this I I will say the bathroom trip definitely helped that was definitely proba oh yeah yes clear some space very good no that and and like when you walked out of there I’m sure you were you were rejoicing that you made it out but how did you feel physically the first 2 hours after this I was extremely groggy I didn’t feel like terrible in the whole next day I didn’t feel terrible I think I’ve eaten worse than this before I used to be much fatter than I am right now as surprising as it sounds as I sat through and did this I I I was very groggy I was very lethargic the brain fog yesterday and immediately after was brutal like putting together a sentence was impossible to do just because of all of the the backed up grease that my body was trying to go through is like you’re not using any energy on your on your brain for the rest today you could not put a sentence to like if you had gotten pulled over by the cops would they they would have thought I was drunk they would have suspected you were drunk and you’re like no I just had I just had just ate eight hours of McDonald’s yeah I failed the feel that would been the funniest cour I might have been in jail cuz I’ve been acting weird the funniest things since Scotty sheer like like oh officer what did you drink just water I’m not wasting any calories on anything else like could get a deal on that you could get some minutes off did you need caffeine did you need coffee or Diet Coke or I was debating the caffeine but like I didn’t want to do like I was worried what that was going to do to my stomach you know like I didn’t want to have to to rush to the bathroom for more than one trip I didn’t want to only 25 minutes for a milkshake that’s that’s not a fair deal also arguing over that you could get five minutes off if you went in the ball pit there was no ball pit I was pissed I wanted to go and sit in the ball pit at least once just for the joke of sitting in the ball pit but the one I found didn’t didn’t have one a that’s a shame too cuz if if you could you could have just stayed the whole time and ate eaten in the count there was a buffer on that one too I can only do the ball pit once per hour but still really thought about this seriously didn’t he there was a lot of debating I mean now my all right my existential question like who on who’s who screwed you on your fantasy team who was bad that you thought was going to be good that left you in this terrible position so the full context of this I I pushed I put this off by a year and like I kept kicking it down the road so this was two years ago that I came in last place thank you we needed the content so we appreciate you doing it during this slow time of year exactly I know I was smart the time and I didn’t want to do this too close to the end of the season because I don’t know if it would have gotten as much as much recognition for it but the I I was the first team out of the playoffs I was like seven and seven just barely missed the playoffs in an ESPN in an our league we’ve done this every single year where if you lose in that first round no matter what your record is of the consolation bracket you have to play in like what’s deem the toilet ball or just like that last place game and I played the worst team in the league and this guy puts up his best performance but the worst part about this going into Monday Night Football I’m down by 30 something points I’ve got Joe burrow and Jamar Chase and the Demar Hamlin thing happened so I didn’t get any points for either of those guys and I don’t want to be the ass who who puts up a fight over this so I’m just taking it on the chin and being a good sport and the guy you know the guy who came in who was the regular season standings said three wins I kind of let him have it kind of let him you know go ahead all right you can feel good about this that you you won and you beat me but uh I mean it was worth it in a way I mean I doubled my followers on Twitter by just doing for the content yeah right so what did you eat yesterday so so so yeah you probably couldn’t come out and say man if that guyed have the yeah the the complete rudess of almost dying on the field what you yesterday okay like day yesterday chicken it was some rice it was it was some fruit oh it was it was as light as I possibly could have gotten all right so quite amazing I looked up Joey chestnut’s Big Mac record he ate uh 32 Big Macs in 38 minutes oh wow now according to your chart you get 45 minutes per Big Mac off 32 would be 1440 minutes which is exactly 24 hours so he could have really eaten 23 of in 38 minutes sat there for seven more and walked his ass out like no problem wow that’s that’s why he’s Joey CH like I was trying to explain to someone that’s like how good the pro golfers are compared to like good golfer like it’s another level like Joe is clearly a champion McDonald’s eater at this point and it’s not like the pros are just another yeah yeah chest up been like I’ll be I’ll I’ll hun I’ll be home in about 45 minutes I got to go knock out this uh fantasy bet one thing I thought about was like what is the upper limit that I would have had to go to the hospital I wasn’t like super full by the end of this thing and I guess that answers the question if Joey Chestnut was able to do 32 of the big Ma I mean well you you were you were smart not to uh do a lot of the did you do any beef any Burgers no without no they was wor that was probably smart but also not smart doing 17 Hash Hash you got to go call blow I would just sit there the Nuggets I think the nuggets are some of your game plan good some of your game plan we’re we’re teing the pancakes were pretty smart you know sounds like should have gone with more of those that was that was my biggest mistake should have done a couple more of those yeah yeah the eggs just straight eggs I don’t either way I commend you yeah good job good job thank you for giving us some content here in June yeah I know slow June day take a nap yeah get a walk in and uh drink more water good God good good God that’s why I don’t play Fantasy Football cuz I I’d lose patience after like 3 weeks and then I’d be last the next thing you know I’m dying in a McDonald’s ball [Laughter] pit he went in the ball pit to take five minutes off and just drowned never came out we never saw him again a bottom the half eaten half eaten Quarter Pounder what a way to go all right that’s our show we’ll be back later this week with who knows what who knows what that’s it’s a mystery every shows a mystery this time of year uh talk to you later