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welcome back to the fanse network and today we will be doing a live DraftKings draft and getting you ready it’s not just about Underdog folks there’s ways to win on DraftKings as well [Music] [Music] all right welcome back fans speak Network I’m your host spr a stair hopefully Tyler will be jumping in soon uh but if not we’re gonna knock this out and I see my guy Andrew here um in the chat good to see you buddy um I’m gonna go over uh some of the rankings right now while we review while we wait for Tyler and uh he doesn’t get here in like 10 minutes we will start um so things a little bit different over here onra Kings I’m looking oh so the top 10 are about the same um as Underdog Marvin Harrison goes a little later here I see jir Gibbs at 12 saquon’s up to 14 Taylor’s down to 16 Drake London a little lower as well uh he’s sitting here at 15 Devonte Adams all the way down to 17 screams value to me with the amount of targets I expect him to get um I think Houston’s an interesting one my I mean I see n Nico Collins here at 18 uh I don’t mind using that first round pick on niik or second round pick on Nico Collins all you got to take a stand though on those Houston receivers because they can’t all pay off there’s no way Nico Collins will be worth the first uh Stefan Diggs will be or be a second Stefan Diggs worth a third and and I would be really I mean maybe they all pay off but he it would have to be the greatest show on Turf again for tank Dell um I’m choosing so what I’ve done is I’ve taken Stefan Diggs out I mean obviously I’ll take him here and there because I want a little bit of exposure but I think when it comes to Houston um you need to go ahead and take a stand here Guy moving up these boards right now is Jaylen WD makes sense with how high he went last year and I don’t know why he started so low um a guy so a difference here on DraftKings is as well on Underdog Sam laort is tight end one and he’s going at 21 over here on DK Sam leapor is going at 29 and he’s tied end two behind Travis Kelsey that’s it’s interesting Sam leor to me is the clear number two target there right behind Am monra Kelsey has the potential to be the number one but when you look at Target competition I’d say leaport has I mean uh Kelsey has more because I know we’re waiting on this Jameson Williams breakout and at fans speak we’ve been happy about getting some Jameson Williams in here however it just feels like that you know it’s leaport is a clear number two with Kelsey we got Xavier worthy Hollywood Brown and potentially Rie rice in the playoffs when it matters so more T Target competition for Kelsey the other thing to say for Kelsey though is he’s done it for years he’s a Hall of Famer Sam laor has had one good season we see Debo Samuel all the way down here at 27 where he’s about 18 or 19 on Underdog that makes sense to me you why because we’re touchdown hunting and Underdog this is more PPR so um I’ll get both of them I I like both of them I even like IU but I’ve been trying to get more of my iuk exposure over here on DK and more of my Deo Samuel exposure Ure over on Underdog so those are some fun ways to look Devonte Smith all the way down to 30 here Stefan digs 31 which makes sense um list competition Malik neighbors I see Josh Allen is the first QB on the board you know what let’s go over these QB rankings real quick and then Tyler’s not here we’ll go ahead and start the draft um Josh Allen number one I I to me you can’t argue that uh the upside is so high and the way that he was spreading the ball around when Joe Brady became the coordinator I completely agree Jaylen Herz I don’t know if I believe him as the as the number two here uh personally I mean obviously we’re going for our Stacks so if you draft AJ brown or Devon Smith Jaylen Herz is more attractive to you um but if we’re just talking about taking these players naked so to speak I think I’d rather have Lamar Jackson uh with Derrick Henry in the back field I he’s going to take the touchdowns but I just think Lamar is gonna have those opportunities to rip off 20 30 yard runs and some of those could end up in the end zone so I personally like Jackson a little more than hurts if we’re not taking correlation into account uh momes I know he didn’t have the best season last year but with the renewed emphasis they put on getting him weapons I think this is a great ranking here here’s one that I’m having problems with CJ Stout because the rushing upside isn’t there so why is he 25 places ahead of Dak Prescott and 27 spots ahead of Joe burrow that doesn’t make sense to me see this is where I just don’t know if these Houston guys are going to pay off um I do get a little bit of Strat exposure you know it’s funny uh so yesterday I was just not in a good mood I had a rough day got home and I said I’m gonna I was in a bad mood so I I was drafting all the players players that I’ve hated right I’ve drafted Diggs I drafted DJ Moore someone I an out L exposure to and then I drafted CJ strad and Jordan love who are two great players however I just don’t know if they’re G to pay off their ADP so that was kind of fun to do the uh dropped all the players I hate uh strategy last night but yeah I still think str’s a little bit too high I’m not against getting your exposure to him um however um you know boy it just seems like it’s about the same value as Dak and Joe burrow and I can get them two rounds later Tyler what’s up buddy I was just kind of talking through some of these DraftKings rankings and how they’re different than Underdog how have you been i’ been good running a little behind getting the lobby pulled up now I don’t know if that’s me or you but I’m having trouble hearing you chat can you guys hear Tyler or is that do I need to adjust my setting can you hear me now yeah much better now okay I just mic turned up by the way okay great uh I was going through all the quarterbacks here um I B said I actually have Lamar ahead of Herz and I put stoud around the deck um Jo burrow area which is why I haven’t been drafting him a lot because I can get players who I feel are similar um two rounds later Anthony Richardson Tyler isn’t that the ultimate upside swing oh for sure I mean he he could win the he could be on the in all the finals or he could get injured in week three again yeah or he’s yeah or you’re banking on like Joe Flaco to come in and save the day if you draft them as your insurance playing yeah which is something I do not do um how are you feeling about Jordan love I think he’ll do well I need to get more of him I’ve been skipping over him I don’t mind like for like weekly winners just having them by himself because he could have those games where he throws for like 400 and get you a couple touchdowns spreads it out yeah I’ve been actually upping my Christian Watson exposure was just with the idea that him and Rashid rice can be total boom do you hear that thing about his hamstrings yeah how he has like 60% more muscle in one leg than the other one and that’s why it was causing so many injuries did he fix it yeah they what he have to do like single legged squats or something it’s like down to 10% or something he went to some doctor or something yeah my left is definitely stronger than my right um Andrew says dks are scoring in 20 rounds that is correct sir so um all right Tyler well I was just kind of killing time did you have any other hot takes you want to get into before we started up no not really we just Dive Right In um have you been drafting a lot I I’ll admit even though this is a DK show I like the tombox contest as me calls them I’ve been I’ve been doing a lot of poodle over the weekend and then I went to Reno so I wasn’t able to draft up in Nevada yeah I drafted like maybe like four or five weekly winners teams so that’s pretty pretty much it yeah weekly winners is fun not having to worry about by weeks and not having to worry about more than one tight end or quarterback I’ll go I’ll go one six yeah yeah I like I like that um I’m trying to think if we had any I any other ones I wanted to ask you about we’ll do it as we’re going on the draft um are you uh are you ready to get started yeah you can go and click in all right I’m gonna count this down three two one enter mine showing two all right hopefully that’s us and then uh once we’ll get started um so Tyler as I’ve been doing this I’m finding that remember I told you I was so into 3 QBs if you get an early QB and probably because you do so much research for this you end up falling in love with everybody um I don’t mind going the 2qb route over on Underdog here on DraftKings however I still think I’m gonna go um 3 QB um yeah I think I think we’re all in together Andrew so that should be fun uh that means maybe I won’t be able to get Jal mclin but it should be fun yeah Meg uh if you guys of course man I’m assuming if you’re watching the show you’re doing it but Meg put out an article I don’t know if it came out today but I read it today about her favorite stacks and she’s talked about um Jordan love and the Packers being one of her top 10 teams that she was targeting um and the great part about the Jordan love Stacks mag is you can kind of backstack them if you need to um so you don’t necessarily need to pull the trigger on jayen Reed um to get involved with Jordan love so um Tyler who’s your favorite receiver there I’ve been going a lot of Christian Watson on the Packers oh mine’s wicks mine’s wick for well everybody loves Wix he doesn’t count of the other three it’ probably be Watson but I think I I don’t think I’ve drafted any of Reed or uh dubes all right where are you drafting at Tyler I’m at the turn I am pick nine Andrew what’s your name on here he’s got first pick is my guess I’m guessing he’s King a23 uh uh getting a little mcaffrey can’t do that now he’s got the Madden Curse on him all right so here’s what I’m going to try and do I’m going to try and put the draft board up and then is there a way I can just put this out like we do on Underdog what are you trying to do so I don’t have to flip back and forth and I can just leave the uh leave the draft at the top just leave the draft for on our screen he says God this user user interface is awful Andrew is a underdog guy he told a fun story in the chat today about seeing the guy with the DK shirt and they had a standof all right let’s see what happens if I if I go okay that’s much better okay all right so my guess is the Andrew is going to take um cmc1 Tyler when you get the first pick you don’t get cute right you take mcaffrey yeah unless I mean unless you want to take cidd it’s one of those two I like mcaffrey a lot more in C personally my take on maccaffrey though is like just to be like The Devil’s Advocate is how many times have we seen him get a workload like he got last year and the next year he just falls apart I think we I think we talked about this before it was either the D Thomason or Marshall faul is the last person to go as the top scoring fantasy player two years in a row so um yeah that’s correct but at the same time you know um I I would rather just run it back with him and of course that’s what Andrew did he took Christian mcaffrey Jamar Chase goes number two what do you think of that Tyler I mean I think you can group two through five pretty much however you want yeah I personally like you know what’s so funny is if you’re if for me if I’m going to get Auto drafted I would rather autodraft in the first couple rounds because I feel like it can’t give me a crappy player yeah right but in those late rounds when you get Auto drafted you’re like oh man you know and you end up with someone you don’t like like um deshun Watson who actually threw today in practice which is uh which is great to hear so you are up next Tyler how you feeling I’m GNA take AJ Brown because I am not taking the a guy that Rose from being undrafted all the way up to ninth in one year so give me AJ Brown okay could puka replicate what he did last year yes but I’m not I can’t draft him in nine all right what should I do here Tyler probably not GNA take saquan he might be there for you um I got I can go Garrett Wilson Marvin Harrison which is something I like to do a lot here I’ve talked earlier though about completely reaching here which I don’t mind doing um on one of the picks and the idea is that I’ll be different if if this team does end up making the final so Garrett Wilson’s gone you know what I’m gonna just so I’ll go jir Gibbs for sure um what do you think of Gibbs Tyler I’m not like super high on him I just don’t have very much exposure to him I mean I like him I think he could be like if say if Montgomery got hurt he’s going to be a very dominant running back but he’s going to share the back field but of the two guys he’s better in open field so I think the only thing Mon and towards the end of the season didn’t he just look way better yeah all right I’ll take uh Harrison I I still think this is too high for Harrison what do you think yeah I think it’s too high for him wide receiver one but like his name wasn’t morvin Harrison he’d be wor he’d be wouldn’t be as high on the draft board yeah I don’t necessarily like that pick it just sucks I that second round is so weird uh you take taquon here I think you have to I mean I guess so for correlation but I don’t like it why don’t you like it I just don’t like I don’t know I’d rather just take a wide receiver and that’s what yeah you know I um I drafted with JSU on Friday and and we were chatting a little bit because we were in the same draft and we both agreed that it’s like you take these running backs here but when you’re done it seems like when you go over your team um you know it seems like the ones where you start three wide receivers are always your favorite so we’re g to try and get different here um maybe this is the year that these running backs burst back into into prominence so obviously we’re hoping that with the way that we’ve got gone one running back one wide receiver in the first round and we see that our buddy Andrew is going to do that as well um the two3 turn I think is interesting there for Andrew I’m gonna be interested to see where he goes I see uh Jay Carrey with two running backs to start that is aggressive especially here you know what’s so funny is I feel like they’re more thirsty for wide receivers on Underdog however on DraftKings it feels like the wide receivers are more important I got I mean Jay carre’s got Bean too he’s going to eat a lot of catches out of the backfield so that’s not a bad one to have I think Bean’s got a great chance to be the top scoring player in fantasy he I don’t think I think he’d be top scoring running back I don’t know about Top scoring yeah I think I think I mean yeah I want to bet on that can you bet on that you probably can especially on those offshore books let me know if you ever find it wow dude running backs are going here I haven’t seen Kyon Williams go in the second round for a while all right let’s see what our guy Andrew does here on the one two turn um let’s look at some of these players available we talked about Kelsey earlier uh he can get another rther back with achain but I would really uh I I probably would not go two running backs to start um Steve reminds Andrew that there’s a 300 yard bonus for passers and a 100 yard bonus for rushing and we’re seeing um so what did he go here all reliable Mike Evans yeah I mean he’s tough to pass up at this point because he has the highest floor of all the players available wouldn’t you agree yeah it’s either him or cub he takes Debo as his second pick all right um we’re gonna see what we’re going back to here uh Tyler all right who do you think is GNA be higher uh we’ll just do player takes here on out to keep the audio going Kelsey or leaport who do you think will have a better year leaport just because I think Kelsey just Coast in the regular season again all right um DJ moris fond eggs who do you why is that easier schedule more miles to feed in Houston or resour CJ Stout is going to be that level of elite the entire year again so just just things the ways I can go wrong all right uh Devonte Smith or Malik neighbors who you Devonte Smith Deonte Smith or Pitman that’s a close one I might take Pitman there I like Devonte more uh he says it was between Debo Kelsey and cup there for me with my second pick all right let’s talk about this one well you’re coming up soon Tyler but you know indulge me here uh I’ve been I’ve been just mashing down content you know what the worst part about going to Reno was for me Tyler is I listened to basketball content the whole way out there and then I couldn’t draft I ended up watching some TV hadn’t done that for a while since all these drafts started going like it’s time to do a draft it’s like yeah you’re not allowed yeah I was actually even thinking of just driving to the border and then signing up and then driving back [Laughter] in all right um let’s see I have one running back one wide receiver so far I’m up on the board Malik damers went ahead of Pitman so they disagree with us there oh I love Josh Allen I think I’m gonna go hero quarterback right here but then who do I follow that up with I’d have to totally reach forade uh I’m going to grab Allen I probably won’t get conc so I’m gonna have to do some correlation later uh pitman’s the highest on the board if I want another wide receiver yeah it’s Pitman or Dell and I do need another wide receiver so we’ll go Pitman I don’t necessarily love the start you know at this point I’m I never like my teams Tyler I never like them till around 10 or 11 when I address uh some of the other issues or I stress about my correlation you know and then once I have things correlated um this guy rri got lucky there with the Z flowers uh Lamar correlation you’re up Tyler you have AJ Brown saquan Mar Barkley and DJ Moore who are you looking at here Tyler and tell us why well I need I think I need another wide receiver just because I think this group falls off pretty quickly correlation is going to say to take hurz but I’m not sure he’s going to get all these rushing touchdowns he’s been getting off I would take hers I wouldn’t even think about it take hers yeah I mean because this isn’t weekly winers that pingpong is goingon to be in effect you know so on the times where Herz runs it in you know okay maybe saquan doesn’t get you there but you’ll always have a piece of that hopefully for you Elite Eagles offense um but let’s talk a little bit uh what’s up the league um are you in this one if you are let us know your name and we can talk about your team um uh Steve says Kelsey probably has more value on DK than first other systems because he has the highest 100 yard chances yeah and he could just be a Target hog he could just be like let’s just say Xavier Worthy is this year Sky Moore or you know just doesn’t turn out and Hollywood Brown keeps getting hurt yeah I mean we haven’t really seen it with him there’s a lot of players on here that that that go high that we have not seen it with yet I would say Hollywood Brown T Higgins I know he had one good year but he has for passing on tank Dell pardon I don’t get why people have left tank Dell on the board right here like this guy’s taking Amari Cooper over tank though like I think that is just wrong probably because it’s a number one versus number three it’s but it’s not he’s arguably the number one CJ ex St even talked about him being the number one no Nico Collins has to be the number one there right I mean that’s what we’re saying on the outside but then the quarterback’s going to walk in the room and say this guy’s my favorite okay and that’s fair that’s fair um how many times do we see backup quarterbacks come in the game and I know it’s because they have reps with these guys but it’s like they walk on the field and the number one becomes the number two because the backup quarterback just pels the number two cuz he’s comfortable with what do you think of the start of this guy McGee here they got Nico Diggs and stoud I mean he’s banking on that offense being what it was last year and just being Elite yeah I I’m kind of getting away from those extreme correlations um Andrew here has uh he’s gone with Patrick Mahomes let’s see how he’s going to try and correlate that ah he went with Hollywood so of course it comes down to the great Hollywood versus Xavier worthy debate there Andrew chose Mr Hollywood Brown Tyler where do you side on the Hol the Hollywood vers Xavier worthy debate I’d probably side with the vet in Hollywood I mean he’s he’s the one hanging out with Mahomes in the offseason I’m pretty sure Mahomes wanted him he’s definitely like he looked good with lar I know he’s had catch problems before but then he had he gave Kyler his best games in the last couple years so I think he’s a solid Target for momes arguably the best wide receiver he’s had since Hill and and I know we keep talking Hollywood worthy who’s the guy who’s the guy the guy still might be rasid rice oh he’s definitely the guy it’s just how many games you get him for I think he’s going to miss like three games at the max I do too dude I’ve been going in on him and I have a question let’s just say right now they announced well here concentrate on your pick real quick who who are you looking for and then I’ll ask my hypothetical I gotta get another wide receiver I was looking at Christian Kirk just went off the board there goes T Higgins damn I’m not taking Keenan Allen because I already have DJ Moore so it is looking Xavier worthy no we’re gonna go with some scary Terry I like Terry McClaren a lot this year um and we talked about it before it’s a number one versus uh what’s worthy we don’t even know number three I mean Kelsey’s gotta be the number one option there right what if worthy what if worthy and Mahomes just don’t click now you took their first round pick who’s now wide receiver three or four on their board yeah um I gotta take Keon Coleman all right who do I match with Keon Coleman Tyler Calvin Jaden Reed Xavier worthy or Keenan Allen I don’t hate Calvin rley because they’re going to throw the ball a lot I’ll say that Keenan Allen one of the top route runners in the league it just how much field all right so I went with Ken El uh bo we’re kind of bouncing around here with topics but that what happens when you’re live drafting but it just brought me up to something Jaden Reed is a player that I do not have a lot of exposure to Tyler do you think that I’m missing the boat I just don’t like I’m not sure he’s wide receiver one up there like he had some good games to end the year but if Christian Watson’s back he could easily retake wide receiver one everyone thinks Wix is going to be wide receiver one so there just there’s just a lot of noise up there all right um let me think of uh all right you’re on the board Tyler who are you looking at I need a running back I’m gonna take I don’t think you need a running back here you can pick whoever you’re balanced enough I guess you’re right but just looking at the board Calin I’m not against taking a running back I’m just saying I don’t Thinkin rley gone yeah we’re going to take we’ll take Kenneth Walker yeah um I like I didn’t like the receivers on the board I wasn’t taking mikoni not touching Addison KD was the only other guy maybe I would have I like Addison I just don’t like their quarterbacks okay so for betting I would agree with you but for Fantasy I don’t think darnold’s GNA be that bad what’s his big issue interceptions but I still think he’s going to force the ball down the field I think those guys are going to put up a good numbers I think his problem is just that if but what how many games does he get if he is just launching the ball down the field and he’s throwing interceptions before they’re like we’re goingon to go to McCarthy well I guess I would just trust the coaching staff and if they go to McCarthy it’s because he’s legitimately better and they’re just not going to the sake of going to I could see panic mode ensuing fast with Sam Darnell as your starter I mean do you think so because they don’t have high expectations this year win win three games out of four to start the year all all that goes out the window but if they win three out of four they’re going to stick with darnold not necessarily Carolina won three out of four to start the year and Darnell didn’t finish the year yeah that gohost steel that was so unfair I thought Andrew D just I mean he’s right his problem is that he’s Sam darnold the dude just sucks okay but we’re talking for Fantasy not winning games what’s his big issue interception he’s not good at football I don’t care about interceptions in fantasy right and in fact it kind of helps me if I’m playing from behind all right let’s look at the draft board let’s see who our guy Andrew is gonna take in his new favorite format here on draftking Evan Ingram and Rashid rice I mean you gotta like his team for somebody who says he doesn’t like DraftKings he could be very well taken down this pod uh Steve says the concern is when McCarthy takes over their past attempts likely plummet yep and that’s another thing about McCarthy I think that because he played under Harbaugh it’s it’s kind of unfair because his statistics are getting compared to all these other guys running spreads in the new modern offense um we haven’t really seen what he can do obviously the Vikings think he’s pretty good his measurables were pretty good um and it the Vikings do have like a pass friendly off offense so I’d be interested I would definitely say he’s going to be given an opportunity to succeed because I feel like the coaching is good and he has good players around him I mean if you can’t get the ball to Justin Jefferson you don’t belong in the NFL so we’ll see where it goes with McCarthy Tyler you are up next what player are you looking at hopefully Christian Watson yeah he’s still there we’re getting some Christian Watson ni Tyler takes Christian Watson um I’m coming up here pretty soon Tyler uh I have four running backs I mean that’d be great four running backs remember the guy who did that the last draft we did yeah no wide receivers um Steve says I like McCarthy’s long turn upside just don’t know if they will overwhelm him as a rookie especially since he’s so young and Steve even the best quarterbacks haven’t necessarily always done fantasy wise has done well fantasy wise as a rookie I think that CJ strout and Sam leap Porter are kind of outliers and we’ll see how that turns out um Tyler I’m back on the board I do not need a quarterback and those are the top two players on the board I can go with the little Rand right here um I don’t have a tight end yet and I really like Jake Ferguson so that’s gonna be my first H you got five seconds okay so we’ll take Ferguson right now um now Tyler I want to ask your question here I want to add a running back and I’m going to let you choose for me do I want or Harris Harris okay you’re asking a Steelers fan though I don’t care I like naier a lot too um all right you’re up Tyler and then I’m GNA go to the question that I’ve been meaning to ask uh for a while here as we bounce around guys we appreciate you watching the show remember the show is brought to you by fanspeak.com and you have the GM simulator for next year the on the-clock GM simulator but what I like right now is the number of articles that Steve and Meg have been putting out I just read Meg’s top 10 favorite Stacks today that’s a great article and if you missed their episode and you just want a quick version of it Steve put out a good article on the offensive coordinator changes and how that’s goingon to affect uh the fantasy upside or downside Jordan love pardon ra Andre or Jordan love I would go Jordan love and I’ll tell you why Tyler because I just feel like there’s so many running backs that we can get in these later rounds that could end up being there um but if you get aced out on quarterback especially in this format where the quarterbacks are more valuable um it just gets rough that happened to me earlier uh where I was I started with am Mona and I’d set it up to get Jared gof and I missed on it and I was already pushing him back and I missed on him and I ended up having to take a couple of players with no correlation and that was Kurt Cousins and um Tua I think but I just didn’t like it I don’t know why like it just feels like if my teams aren correlated like I hate them even though for like manag League or the actual players I like them but Tyler while we have some time I want to talk to you about Elite tight end because I’m going back and forth on it when I first started I was pushing tight end back a lot but I’ve heard a lot of content this says Elite tight end is the way to go how do you view the tight end position and what are you doing with that Tyler I just think some of them are just too high on the board like what’s how much how much better of a season is are guys like Ferguson and joku a a Mark Andrews coming off of multiple injuries Trey McBride and Evan Ingram and Kyle pittz will’ll leave out the top three guys because I think the top three KD Kelsey lorta but how much better are those guys than say Cole KT it’s McBride uh Kelsey lorta but i k a good example I’m not going off of draft order or ADP I’m saying the best ones it’s KD Kelsey lorta Trey MC BR had one good year when he was the only weapon he’s not a top three tight end in the league interesting there’s a lot of people who think that uh McBride is gonna be the number one fantasy Titan at the end of the year I mean he could because again what if Marvin Harrison isn’t all that good he’s now again the only weapon for Kyler to throw the ball to Marvin Harrison’s really good and he gets double covered all the time and then uh we get uh right McBride just gets this wonderful cers he’s working against but like Dallas Gard pick 107 I don’t think he’s much further back than a lot of those guys in that group DT jts 120 Cole KT 135 like so you’re going you opt to push your tight end back is what you’re saying you don’t believe in the elite tight end strategy you think that the opportunity cost of leaving players like George Pickins Amari Cooper Calvin Ridley on the board is too high to be using one of your tight end picks and if tight end goes back to being the normal lowest scoring position it is that would be the position I would be find being weakest at right yes all right you are up so Tyler is not in on that you need an elite tight end to compete uh and he’s showing he’s putting his money over his mouth this guys he hasn’t drafted a tight end yet he has two quarterbacks you have two quarterbacks yeah Jordan love Jaylen Herz I forgot you got jayen when I told you but I still like it um who are you looking at right now Tyler I’m I’m gonna get my tight end right here spread after pick I’m going to get him a pick what 107 and get Gard here to pair with the rest of the Eagles I have so we got to get nine rounds off the board before I had to take my tight end all right let’s see where is my team weak at I have four wide receivers I don’t necessarily love them I have two running backs I have one tight end I have to take Bri Brock Bowers if he’s on the board it’s like a rule like so the question is do I add another Steve Steve hit it right on the head too he said the other thing with tight end scoring is tight end touchdowns are so key if some middle tier talented tight end ends up with 10 touchdowns they vot up there big time yeah perfect example of that could be this year is like Jawan Johnson catches 10 touchdowns you’re drafting him in the last three rounds of the draft all of a sudden he’s a top three tight end yeah um yeah Andrew has got her not in their tier yeah was that you guys teasing him is that on your show Andrew where you were calling G the screen Merchant I don’t know I I listen to so much content I can’t credit it properly Tyler take over for a couple seconds I’ll be right back I think I’m going to keep boting out this green base stack here and we’re going to take some or actually what do we only got we got two running backs this is bad and we’ll just take Romeo duudes pair him with Jordan love and Christian Watson hopefully we get some highflying offense up there let’s see what else let’s go look and see what the rest spread’s team looks like so spread went Shakir and Bowers of course he took some Bowers to get in there he goes two of his last three picks his tight ends Shakir which could be wide receiver one in Buffalo I feel like he should be higher on boards let’s see let’s see okay Andrew should be coming around on his picks see what he adds to his he went with Stephenson and Brooks on his last turn got some running back and they’re like that call all right what did I miss uh nothing really I took Romeo dubes to pair him with Jordan love and Watson yeah so gonna have to get some running backs here soon I think you’re okay I just don’t like Kenny Walker being my second and only running back right now because dude a lot of times I have Ken Walker as my first first he’s going to get hurt he always gets hurt all right here’s an interesting raid uh range here with Andrew on the board um between chub Edwards and Brian Robinson Chase Brown who do you like the best Blake corm he wasn’t on the list Tyler I went down one sorry uh okay I like Brian Robinson a lot and the ideas with King Cliff kinsbury out there I don’t know how much I think he’s going to be the main back and I don’t know how much substituting they’re going to be doing he doesn’t catch the ball though yeah that’s true but I mean if he’s out there I mean in this new system he might I just don’t think he has he’s never done well catching the ball out of the back field again Alabama he didn’t do it well he hasn’t done it well in a while so our guy Justin’s in the chat asking what Andrews team looks like all right Justin I got some bad news for you this is a good team man I wanted to roast him too Justin I really did um but all right so Andrew right now is at 2351 Justin he’s got Christian mcaffrey Mike Evans dvo Samuel Patrick Mahomes Maris Brown Evan Ingram Rashid rice rre Stevenson Jonathan Brooks Trevor Lawrence and jacobe Meyers what do you think Justin what do you think of that team um all right Tyler you’re up here pretty soon and you are at 2251 what are you looking at here running back you might get running back give me one of the top three corm you’re getting BL Corum huh if corum’s there yeah if not Chase Brown all right my team is 1252 [Music] um I should probably be looking at running backs as well I know that you’re going to take porum Chase brown one off the board so I can’t take that as a backup which means Blake corum’s gonna go right here and then I have to change my entire pick see he was listening to me Tyler he said that’s a good pick there Brian you want you want to hear some [ __ ] spread I was doing a draft at work the other day and I I forget how the it played out but the the guy the guy who picked in front of me was building out a Baltimore stack but I feel like he was trying to build out a KC stack before I took Mahomes one pick in front of him but then with his next pick he takes Lamar so it looks like he’s building out the Baltimore stack right on his next pick before my next pick because it was the turn he has Mark Andrews right there on the board for him to pair with Lamar he takes Hollywood Brown I said that was a spite pick if I’ve ever seen it yeah I’ve seen that happen a lot and then he he took it was like he took him he took another uh wide receiver of mine I think he took rice he just kept taking all the wide receivers from Kansas City what do you think of Rico D Tyler I don’t mind D or shanet I like d better D could be running back one if Zeke is that washed all right um Andrew ask how many QBs and tight ends do you guys take with this being 20 rounds instead of 18 I said three and two usually I usually go three quarterbacks two tight ends however you can see I put more early Capital into it um with you Tyler I would go three tight end because you started late so you want shots at that late round guy that you were talking about earlier that scores a bunch of touchdowns yeah and and our guy our guy Steve put a an example of that in here he said in 2020 Robert tunyan was tight end three because Rogers threw him 11 touchdowns Robert tan doesn’t have a job in the NFL now yeah and I had him that year in redraft League um Justin wants to know do we think the Cowboys make a move in free agency for a running back or a trade I say no because they haven’t made a single move this entire off season yeah and like I said I’m I I just okay so running back’s the one player you could trade for but I mean who are they talking about CLE Herbert I just don’t understand why Harris but it was like the Steelers are gonna ask for a they’re not training for n Harris there’s no way we’ll take cidd for him Steve says on DraftKings he Li lik 3683 build yeah I like that yeah ta Hill is a tight end on here um all right Justin rate Tyler’s team real quick for me in the chat you got AJ Brown saquon Barkley DJ Moore Jaylen Herz Terry McClaren Kenneth Walker Christian Watson Jordan love Dallas GD Romeo dubes Blake km and Cole KT what do you think Justin how good is that team I like it I think he’s doing good so for you I would go you can get away with two quarterbacks I would definitely go three tight ends though well and just perfect example of why you don’t need to draft these high high-end tight ends I could easily have two top five tight ends and I didn’t draft until after pick a 100 I don’t think coad has a chance he’s put up some stat lines spr he had multiple but not in the new offense he has a much better quarterback now oh yeah he could he could easily have 11 touchdowns this year where he’s just the guy in the end when they get in the Red Zone who’s standing wide open in the end zone I think that’s all keen and all on targets I guess if Allen gets hurt I mean that’s where this all everything goes um Justin’s with you on Comm I think this is where it all goes into just Randomness right because within we we already know there’s gonna be a t of injuries the first couple weeks and that changes everything super easy schedule for Chicago too so I mean I like it Andrew says sorry Tyler Cole KT is tight end 10 at best and I think I’m I think I’m with Andrew here I mean I’m not saying he’s Titan five just overall but could he have the Robert tanion season from 2020 and jump the list yeah he definitely that argument we could put every tight end on that list though right but oh but what I’m saying is easy schedule they should be scoring a lot of touchdowns they have a new quarterback who’s going to throw the ball a lot he could easily get just fall into that spot they also have they also have an OC who likes to run the ball a lot yeah with DeAndre Swift as their lead back yeah it’s not going to go well how much Dand Swift do you have I took him today and I was like I felt sick to my stomach but I just I don’t hate having him I think he’s decent uh upside right here spread if his legs don’t fall off he’s going to run for a thousand I’ve been taking a lot of JK Dobbins but I take him way later he’s so much farther down on this list for Underdog all right I’m up Tyler I have 1362 I gotta look at backup quarterback at some point um players I’d be looking at for my backup I don’t really have a lot boy I don’t have any players I could potentially correlate every quarterback’s out the board of my wide receivers that’s not good not good at all you could do the you could do the will Levis Tyler Boyd late stack you could do the Bryce young Sanders stack late yeah Josh Allens by with 12 all right well I gotta grab Ray Davis I think I’m gonna have to go with Gino here Juno’s gonna lose his job to same how there’s your hot take for the show all right there you go like I like that you’re bringing it I don’t love this team this is not one of my favorite teams Tyler I hate that I have no correlation with my backup like yeah I can grab no Fant but it’s which rookie spread the running back for Miami right or kersel um right but I mean both those players you’re completely dependent on injury for them to come through like there’s I already had five wide receivers too so I was leaning right yeah uh was the Bears OC in Seattle whenever it was there yeah St uh Justin says Swift to so cheaps love his ADP that’s so funny I’ve been avoiding him in that range there’s so many other players I like more like that backfield goes one of two ways this year either Swift is healthy all year and he he is like a running back like top 10 fantasy scoring wise gets a lot of fantasy points scores some touchdowns a lot of those plays that we thought were going to be as touchdowns last year that Herz was stealing he’s getting those in Chicago or they’re the backfield they’ve been for years where this is supposed to be the guy by week eight he’s hurt we get like three weeks of khil Herbert where one of those weeks he runs for 202 touchdowns and then he disappears and then they play the the roulette game the rest of the year where it’s Roshan Johnson then it’s back to Swift and then it’s back to Herbert so I mean yeah I mean that’s a possibility for a lot of these back fields I if the they weren’t off the board here uh right in the top five or six um so I think that’s why waiting on running back is so so powerful here let’s see what Andrew does here now he’s up on the turn um he’s added Josh DS and Zack shanet two good upside players is too far down the board too I think I think so too um get some baitman with his first pick oh he took my guy there goes Jal mcclaflin good job Andrew you just made the best pick of the whole draft bro if Jim j Jalil mcclaflin and Brock Bowers are good this year Tyler I’m might have a lot of money what’s your love fair with mlin I get the Bowers when he’s a Raider he’s your first round pick like he’s supposed to be a stud but like backup running back in Denver with bow Knicks at quarterback like what is the level I don’t think Javon that good I think that javante was excellent in college and I don’t think he ever really recovered from that uh injury that he had team that’s probably behind the 90% of their games this year so they’re not ready yeah but mclin can catch out of the backfield so I could get all those dump offs and what did you what what was what was your criticism of Bon x b off right that’s what you told me that’s all he did was dump the ball off right yeah he’s a dump off Merchant but my okay you now you see it right now now you’re beginning to understand right Tyler you’re G start drafting the here here’s the other thing spread what if he was really quarterback six on their board and they just kind of got stuck with them all right right I will answer that in a second but I’m ight now oh my gosh let’s see what do I need I don’t really need anything 2462 I can draft whatever I want I am going to take some Marvin Mims I know you hate that um and where’s Noah Fant is he too low right now yeah him way later he’s way too low okay well he probably won’t be there when it comes back around um what do you think of wandell Robinson little Gadget player could could put up some decent scores I mean I don’t hate him yeah I’m done with wide receiver now I mean I can do whatever I want but I’m at 2482 I’m filling my tight end room right here unless he goes in the next two picks who are you looking at Jaan Johnson I saw you took Bucky Irving what do you think of him I’m just we he’s too slow oh Jan Johnson just went I’m not worried about him being too slow I mean he’s gonna get some of the workload that Rashad White had all last year Rashad White’s not getting that workload again yeah so he went I’m going to wait all right Justin agre with me says mlin is explosive he was 10th in yards per tetch and 13th in Breakaway run rate yeah I mean I’m I’m so in on that guy I just keep drafting him and it’s at the expense of at leis on Underdog of Antonio Gibson who I have barely any of who’s the other guy right in that range I should be getting exposure to that’s a running back too there’s another guy in that range let me look on the board oh aler I have not been getting a lot of aler what do you think of Tyler aler you better pray to God beon gets hurt yeah I don’t think they’re gonna do that dumb um this year right he’s legit just gonna spell beon this year as my guess like he’s not getting all those carries yeah I mean he’s he’s bcow for sure um this is where I think you’re just rolling the dice on running backs here right Roan Damen Pierce Bucky irin all these guys are going to be studs if there’s an injury but I mean how how do we predict that I see Andrew back on the board which one of my favorites will he take now I might be like fully out on this jul of mlin guy why we’re talking about a guy that topped 11 fantasy points twice last year okay he’s on possibly the worst team in the NFL no could that team could easily be one of the worst in the NFL their offense could be nothing to where all he could do is catch dump offs out the backfield that’s enough to get me home in this format what if it’s four catches or five catches for 60 yards and he gets six attempts for 20 yards on the ground every game and two touchdowns it’ll be great they ain’t scoring two touchdowns every game spread get the hell out of here why oh and I see my guy Andrew took brayan Allen the new upand cominging rising up the draft wars as he looks good in Camp Tyler why are why is sea P not good anymore uh let’s see he didn’t do well his last couple years for the Saints he took a year off he just pushed what was a better quarterback prospect out off the team because he didn’t like him and he didn’t want to play in his system he’s kind of hard-headed and he wants wait which quarterback prospect are you talking about he pushed Russ right out of the room he sucks Russ is better than Bo Knicks no he’s not Shawn Payton legit thinks Bo Knicks is g to be Drew Brees all over again and I got bad no sucks for me as a uh as a Raiders fan Z quarterback for Denver that’s how bad their Situation’s gonna be all right you’re up make your pick and then we’ll continue who are you looking at uh need tight end we shall go we’ll get some gaseki we know burrow legs his tight ends this could be a spot where Gaz gaseki another guy all of a sudden catches 10 touchdowns I mean I don’t think you’ll get 10 touchdowns but I think that’s a great pick um just guys don’t just all the attention is gonna be on Chason Higgins he’s just standing in the end zone waiting for the ball and you’re getting El lead offense and Elite quarterback yeah right I mean works for me why is Darren Waller still on here yeah that I don’t get okay so I’ll get some Noah fan who else do I need Tyler I need another running back oh Shipley right yeah we’ll go Fant and little shley so you really think the Russ is going to be good this year I think it’ll be better than both next huh I don’t know yeah I mean I guess that’s you said the bar so low you say he’d be better than like the 27th best quarterback I you just told me bonck doesn’t suck and now you’re saying he the 27th best quarterback so which one is it yeah you’re right I did contct myself there I think it’s just going to be a slow development for him kind of like college where it took took them six years to finally be good in a pandemic uh let’s jump in the chat see what Steve had to say the Broncos also have four backs right now competing for work maybe they cut some AI perin but I do worry about what the role is yeah and I guess that’s what happens Steve but I I like what I’ve done here as far as just taking a stand because the opportunity cost isn’t low um I want really I think everyone would age with me here but you know tell me if you think I’m wrong the higher the round a player’s ADP is the more even I want my exposure so the idea is in that first round I think all those guys are going to be good I’d want really even exposure and the last round is why I’m taking my stands and so I think that’s my idea there with mclen is I’m just taking a stand and if you know doesn’t work out it doesn’t work out but it really have to be like Antonio Gibson’s like rb5 for me to regret it uh he also says Les are interesting at tight end because Boyd is now gone maybe Burton or one of the other wide receivers feel that role but some of that work now filters back to the tight end roll and that brings us to a fun question Tyler Germaine Burton he’s pretty high on these boards I don’t know I’m not familiar with him that much from college what are your thoughts on him he’s a solid player solid where he go to school did you watch Bama he was one of Bryce he was probably Bryce Young’s best weapon his last year okay so I mean he could definitely run the slot very good he’s definitely going to get some playing time for Cincinnati he he could be good for them I see burrow they show videos of them online he’s already using them in practice a lot so’s he’s gonna fill in Boyd’s role pretty much but I think Boyd was a better blocker than what Burton is so I could see some of that going back to the tight end like Steve said okay all right this is where we’re really dumpster diving here because on under we would already be done I’m at 2583 uh I could take a shot at a quarterback which is what I do sometimes I’ll take Aiden oconnell maybe with my last pick um and I’ll probably take another shot at running back Tyler with my idea being because of I think the reason people are so wide receiver hungry in these baseball drafts is an injury to a wide receiver doesn’t necessarily open and everything’s up where with all these second string running backs the injury just opens up the usage for example if Jamar Chase gets hurt it doesn’t necessarily mean that Germaine Burton’s gonna have a ton ton of work right um but it does mean that way for the running back so on these late round picks um unless I have an obvious need but I already took eight receivers I prefer to take a shot with the running backs uh who are you looking at for your last couple picks Tyler yeah who are your sleepers here I’ll probably end up taking one of the quarterbacks one of the backups I don’t don’t know if it’s going to be penic if it’s going to be how or if I take the the big flyer here and go Spencer Rattler but I could see one of those three backups ending up on the field at some point this year I do not like Spencer rler yeah you can argue up about yeah he says I saw some folks talking Blake Watson today I don’t even know who Blake Watson is do you tell me I can even tell you what team he’s on because I really don’t like any running back that’s the thing Jus is like you conse so much content you want everybody they’re gonna take that Giants running back tyone and Tracy Jr oh I was gonna take it oh is that who you got yeah let’s see what running backs on the board remember last year all the dvin cook hype when he was still a free agent he got signed he stunk yeah wow this running back room is terrible all right I’ll take Evan Hall and what do you know about this pick Tyler Aiden oconnell your thoughts I mean it’s better than b Knicks yeah I thought I was wondering if you’re going to mention that I left B Nick on the board so uh Blake Watson is an undrafted free agent from Memphis he says he was really good in college maybe I should have taken a shot there Tyler it’s up to you if you want Blake Watson here no I gota I gotta get my third quarterback what you looking at take Bon X take Bon X take bone X nah we’re we’re going to we’re going to look and pray to God Gino just loses his job to Sam H how we’re going samow oh don’t do that I took youo I’m looking down to see if I can find back just just one one last thing back to our uh our Bo Nicks talk when you said it’s just going to take a couple years for him to progress and how it took six years in a pandemic for him to be good in college so you’re telling me that if World War II breaks out in the next two to three years and that like an NFL season gets like delayed for some reason by it that when they come back off of that break he might be elite you are just too hard on this kid first of all he went into the SEC at age 18 he started as a freshman so he’s obviously got the physical Talent uh performed his role well at Oregon they could have very well been in the national championship game he has the physical tools and he improved each year what’s not tell like he’s not good telling you spread there’s just no Talent there I disagree I think he’s gonna be good all right we will see what happens 2.0 he just played in the P where is picking now the Giants no he’s sitting on the bench holding the the clipboard for Jaylen Herz oh he’s in Philly Philly all right Tyler that does it for us [Music] um what what’s your name on here the league let’s go over all the teams well I think we can kind of filter out which one he is he only has two tight ends so he’s got to be Captain Kirk he’s Captain Kirk or the atrina guy they’re the only two teams with two tight ends he could be bam Mar does he have two tight ends oh he does have two tight ends all right Justin thanks for hanging out bud all right um let’s start with and team he okay yeah all right we’ll do your team as well Del all right uh Andrew got mcaffrey Evans Debo Mahomes uh Hollywood Evan Ingram Rashid rice from Andre Stevenson Jonathan Brooks Trevor Lawrence jacobe Meers Josh D shanet baitman mcclaflin Davon Sanders brillan Allen Javon Baker Michael Mayor and Brendan rice Jerry Rice’s kid what do you think of this team Tyler I’m pretty jealous of it but he’s got no correlation with his backup oh wait no he has EV Ingram no he did great he beat me I like the way he did his team I mean I hated drafting out of the one spot the one time I did get it but the way he built that team out out of the one Squad is I think the perfect way to do it yeah I’m pissed like how how is he gonna be Mr Underdog and then come and beat me in my own game here at draftking because I think he has a better team than me um Tyler you have AJ Brown saquon Barkley DJ Moore Jaylen Herz Terry McLaren Kenneth Watkin Christian Watson Jordan love Dallas GD Romeo dub Blake km Cole KT you’re favorite JK doin who I think you took a little too high but that’s fine Jaylen Wright Bucky Irvin Malachi Corley Mike geki DJ shark Tyron Tracy and Sam how what are your thoughts on this team Tyler I like it I think I didn’t really want to go as Philly heavy as I did but it’s how it works out sometimes and we just pray to God that that offense scores a lot of points this year all right and I think the league uh he did better than this is one of my worst drafts why do I have to have my worst drafts on stream I like his team better than mine as well he started with Garrett Wilson Drake London Z flowers gets Lamar Jackson and Mark Anders look at that correlation there fantastic Chris godon one of my favorite sixth round picks I almost took him but I have so much Goblin already I with keeman Allen DeAndre Swift who I’m not high on but you guys made plenty of arguments for him uh Brian Thomas uh and his what do you think of Devin single ter Ty gonna be rb1 Andrew you’re pretty good at DK I would say to keep do it yeah he’s gonna be rb1 the question is will they be behind all the time probably probably in the same rule saquon was in last year TSH Spears your thoughts Tyler I like that pick I mean they said they’re going to be throwing the ball a lot he can catch passes out of the back field and take him 60 to 70 yards for touchdowns he could easily have Spike weeks and end up on I think he’s better than paard at this point in their careers Jerome Ford great pick um kurk cousins correlates him with Drake London I mean this is just a master class to how to draft he took JJ McCarthy we weren’t sure on him but it’s a third QB fine Jaan Johnson your favorite candidate to get 10 TDS Jaylen Tolbert Rond Del Moore boy he went a lot of receivers here he went 3692 um with Mark Andrew I think you’re fine going with only two t tight ends to league and it’s funny that I’m giving out advice and I think I drafted the worst team of all four of us uh I hate three of my first four picks it’s almost like I’m just getting the exposure here jir Gibbs Marvin Harrison and Michael Pitman I mean all those guys have such variance here I love Josh Allen I mixed him with Keon Coleman and K Shakir I got some Keenan Allen Jake Ferguson NY Harris of course I always drop Brock Bowers Davian Wicks the darling in the best ball Community um took some shots on Rico Delo and Ray Davis Gino Smith uh correlated with n Fant that’s pretty garbage Marvin Ms relying on bone next we’ll see how that turns out wand Del Robinson riing on Daniel Jones and then uh two my favorite late round stabs will Shipley and Evan Hall and finally my last QB was Aiden oconnell a match with Brock Bowers um not in love with my team Tyler what do you think I could have done better um I mean maybe swap out Harrison for a different receiver and that I think so too that was exactly what I was say high on him like just looking at it like you could have went London you could have went Adams you could have had Adams Brock Bowers and o’ Connell yeah could have had you could had Nico Collins instead like there was there was three wide receiver ones on the board that I think were still better than what Harrison’s going to be in his first year so but he could be a Target hog and just get all the targets and just eat them up Kyler could just stare him down every play uh the League’s asking what do you think should I have reached for King Kade and set of Pitman man I kind of think I should have I mean I think it get you a little different but you get the wide receiver one for Indie he could easily put up 1,200 yards I ended up getting Coleman so that’s not that bad right yeah you still have weapons from Buffalo yeah all right well that is it for us we’ll be back next week Tyler any final thoughts about drafting on draft K that’s pretty much it just stop back next week hopefully we get Andrew in here for another draft hopefully he doesn’t just beat us again like he looks like he’s going to do in this one but yeah I definitely uh I definitely didn’t have my best draft here today but we’ll see uh like I said sometimes you take the players you hate because you’re trying to even out your exposures uh that’ll be it for us guys Andrew and Justin will be on Thursday um I’m not sure when Steve and megar for sibling sh done this week but then 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