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it’s fish at 6 a beautiful day at the star in Frisco which is right there that is the star this is the Fishbowl I’m Mike Fisher your trusty and trusted reporter 10 takes on the days activities at Cowboys mini camp from inside the star we’re proud to be uh on the short list of people gets to hang out in there and we’re proud that I’m on your short list 70,000 fish heads in cowboy Nation strong top 10 tonight these are not hot takes they are fact-based opinions that’s all we deal with around here facts I tell you facts and we invite you to do the same get in get on be good bring something of intellect to the table only three slappies allowed per show item one big Mike uh gave two words today to offer some insight into Micah parsons’s and I’m going to take it and run with it when you boil it all down all the things we’ve talked about about Michael Parsons from the very start and certainly the things we’ve talked about as he has blossomed as a as a colorful some people even think controversial media figure and I get it Max he’s not M cap Parsons he’s me cap Parsons oh I get it but try this on for size St M fish for dinner oh and it’s delicious Big Mike goes big personality and I sat there and I watched that and he just kind of let that sit there he didn’t say a lot more about it Reed they should take off the gloves and tell him you can’t be a media guy and a player um and I when you use clubes I talk about gloves that’s how they’ve dealt with Micah maybe maybe Mike Zimmer will be a little different um Mike McCarthy did speak out last week and talk about uh the the wasted opportunity of Micah skipping OTAs yes it’s voluntary but Jim laws he’s just a kid he’s a 25y old kid who thinks he’s king of the world and maybe should tell him you’re you’re you’re not a king you’re a prince I wish there was a way I wish there was a way Jeff Curtis Uncle fish premium for 40 months Jeff Curtis hey how do I get to Circle star like Jeff ask the fellas I’ll show you how hit the like button would you please it tells the algorithms on YouTube that you want real life Cowboy information you don’t want slap dickery and we’ll have none of that BD we need to stop infantilizing players that’s a that’s a BD you’re my one of my 70,000 favorite fishes that’s the biggest word we’ve ever used Mike Zimmer in Mike’s ear could help keep in mind hash 53 Brands Mike’s response could be so you can be the general manager and be a MIG figure but you can’t be a defensive end would be a m figure interesting that’s a beard scratcher but let me go back to the two words big personality um yeah you might have to hit refresh if you’re seeing a freezer freeze Zone big personality and then I reflected Big Mike’s been doing this in one form or another for he’s he’s what is he 58 he’ been doing this a long time and this ain’t his first rodeo and this is what popped into my head and I can’t believe it took me this long not that it always went smoothly it didn’t Soo does the Jerry Jones created culture far Foster these types of mentalities among players I’ve been saying it for years that’s hash 53 Brands CES Jerry’s the owner and the general manager in theory he calls the shots not Parsons right but Jerry’s presence in two ways allows this to happen one as I said how do you tell a player that he can’t Market himself when the whole building is about marketing and two and this of course has been a problem ever since Jimmy Johnson left if a star player has an issue a question a problem a request he doesn’t have to go to the coach not in this organization but having said all that big personality this coach worked with Aaron roders there is no greater there there is no player that I’ve covered covered a little bit during the 40 years that I’ve covered the NFL I can’t think of anybody that thought he was king of the world more than Aaron Rodgers and lot of UPS some downs and a Super Bowl they wanton a lot of football games Aaron Rogers and Mike McCarthy did so my working Theory if Mike McCarthy can work with Aaron Rodgers Mike McCarthy can work with anybody Craig Hutchins what’s this I’m hearing about McCarthy has had enough I saw that story it’s it’s a it says a source a cowboy’s former Personnel man says that McCarthy’s had about enough of Jerry now if it’s true listen Big Mike you’re on onee contracts you’re probably not going to have to put up with it much longer but I must say the writer I think the writer Tyler Dunn who I I know of a little bit I got to say when we do sources I mean I know all the cowboy Personnel men and I know all the former Cowboy Personnel men and in terms of cowboy Personnel man who actually know who who who have worked here in this era there’s only two of them so I don’t know and and by the way neither of the two of them are close to McCarthy re this is a good related question was red ball Jason Garrett was he bothered by Jerry you know what it’s a perfect question Jason Garrett’s known Jerry Jones for 30 years and knew exactly what he was getting into as the head coach here with tons of good and obviously some things that are different some things that are different about being the Cowboys coach uh the schedule the agendas America’s team the attention it’s different it’s the big stage plenty of coaches including a lot of people a lot of you a lot of not you a lot of critics who say oh he they never want nobody wants to work for Jerry a lot of big-time coaches have used the phrase it’s the big stage you work for Jerry here it’s a big stage and they don’t have a problem with it but you do understand what you’re getting into and Mike McCarthy no dummy knew exactly what he was trying to get into Lobo Mike is trying to leverage a business decision I don’t think it’s a maturity or leadership thing I’m not gonna I’m not going to bother with the leadership thing although I’m going to get to that in a minute with dck and Micah I would say that a more mature person would say I’m going to make a lot of money later in the media I can put my toe in here I don’t have to put my whole body in media I can just stick my toe in there and lay the groundwork for where I can be in 10 years uh Curtis fish if you talk to Ed worder is that who you’re talking about Ed worder yeah and uh we’ve talked about it here in did a story on it cowboys country.com Ed wer um maybe the maybe symbolic of what ESPN really cares about now as the great Peter King said upon my friend Ed’s dismissal ESPN doesn’t care about reporting but bottom line big personality if if I can deal with Aaron roders this is nothing Dak Prescott today indicated regarding Micah Parson’s otaa absence indicated that he had communicated with him and maybe even kind of asked him to show up maybe Dustin What’s happen of this country it’s the greatest country in the world what do you mean what’s happened to it would you trade it Dak Prescott on Zeke hey what’s it like what’s the mood what’s the vibe what’s it and his best buddy in the world said it’s the effing best this is about here we go brother hood and chemistry and but but let’s skip over the Brotherhood and the chemistry um this is about something that more than who the best football player is this is about the locker room Vibe the locker room mood does matter now it’s not going to get you a third rushing title but it matters uh Craig I’m not for I I guess I didn’t read the story somebody’s saying that Jerry Jones was calling plays okay I I I need to go look up that story on its face that’s absolutely Preposterous Preposterous I don’t even think there’s a physical way to do that by the way and by the way had Jerry called down to the sideline and started calling plays who answered the where’s the phone who answered the phone so without having read the story Jerry Jones has never in 35 years of doing this Craig that’s unb I respect you that’s unbelievable that’s somebody is saying that Jerry Jones called plays in the Green Bay game that’s incomprehensible Cindy I’ve heard people say that about yes you’ve heard that before because we’ve had Coach Jones jokes around here for 35 years it’s ridiculous on its face and it’s not ridiculous just because it just doesn’t happen what’s the structure of it how did how did it happen I’m going to look it up I’m GNA look up the story how do they say this happened Steve Burks Jerry probably thinks he can call plays actually no he he jokes about it he jokes about Coach Jones now he will say when I was 20 years old had I decided to go into coaching I think I could have he does say that and I don’t why would you doubt that you know was in football all his life and was a starting offensive lineman on a national championship team why wouldn’t you think he could be a coach of course he could be a coach never happened there’s no way it ever happened because because the logistics prevent it from happening David what happened to the Raiders interest in Dak no idea what you’re talking about there’s there’s not there’s not a way for Jerry to call plays from his suite Cindy there’s not a way there’s not a method Stephen what would prompt that story Jerry Jones hatred that would be the prompting of the story Garrett Jerry can’t even clean his own glasses why would he bother calm place I this wasn’t on the agenda tonight this wasn’t on the fish for dinner menu but I really before you go apeshit on this I want you to think about it if Jerry really called plays as Kurt s points out you I mean honestly if Jerry over the course of 35 years was was calling plays you really think I wouldn’t know that because you really think coaches wouldn’t say Jesus get me you know you know how fast Troy akeman would have told me you’re not going to believe this but Jerry called down to the sideline on the mystery phone and told North Turner what play to call no no one of my lines about Jerry’s football involvement here is is The L4 that’s the position on the kickoff team and Jerry would go on the radio and still does and talk about things very specifically on Tuesday morning what what they did right and they did wrong guys every single time that was coming from he had been in a staff meeting the morning before and they discussed what went wrong well we didn’t get very good coverage on that third kickoff from our L4 and then Jerry goes on the radio and says uh Mr sea uh Mr Ralph uh uh our L4 it’s just showbiz Chris B Jimmy didn’t like Jerry on the sideline nor should he nor should he like him on the sideline it’s not the place the the owner doesn’t belong on the sideline on the sideline standing anywhere near the it be on the sideline over there all you know all plenty of owners and general managers do that but not like listening to the headset it’s ridiculous Max maybe maybe Max and St M maybe maybe Jerry’s the one who called that play where Zeke played center again before we go nuts ju just think of the logistics there there isn’t Jerry doesn’t have a headset in his suite I’ve been in it you’ve seen him in the suite you see what he’s doing in the suite you see him with a headset he’s talking with Stephen he’s talking with Will uh and he’s talking with John bonjovi and President Bush that’s what he’s doing in the suite it’s a party it’s a football party in the suite he’s not up there calling plays but I’m going to look it up maybe we’ll have some fun with that breakfast at fishes tomorrow at 7:20 uh Ken awon Uncle fish premium there is an elevator in the building yeah he could absolutely get you could scoot down at 80 two years old almost could he he could just run down there he’s so excited about calling his own plays uh by the way that spirit in the locker room the pep and all that you saw that today well you didn’t see we saw it today Eric Kendricks uh kind of lays out PP drill Donovan Wilson he lays out intercepts it defense goes nuts shortly thereafter that finds Brandon Cooks who’s really having a good having a good time running against seven on seven 11 on 11 air uh hard to cover Brandon Cooks and Dak Prescott gets him for a touchdown pass and the offense goes crazy uh it it’s little pep and a little Vibe and a little Zeke item four uh you may have heard Big Mike talk about this this Navy Seals company uh is here uh how do you know which guys are the Navy SEAL guys they’re the guys who are jacked wearing super tight uh t-shirts those are the Navy SEAL guys and uh it’s worth noting that when Dak took the offensive guys to Atlanta to the lake last off season this was the group that trained him this is where here we go comes from this is where the fist bump to begin every huddle comes from it’s a It’s like a mental rep it’s it’s like it’s almost uh uh hypnotic do this to start every huddle say this to start every play get yourself in a positive mental Rhythm so those guys were at work today great idea um now it didn’t win in a Super Bowl but it did have them in the bundle of teams with the best offense in football Food For Thought Michael Parson says our roster’s good our roster’s fine Dak Prescott says the same thing Micah says we we have seven all Pros on our team seven let’s go through them help me out here who’s he talking about not necessarily who are we talking about about who’s he talking about Ken Lawson Roma would be a good quarterback coach but you’re right first of all I have no idea if he’d be a good quarterback coach no idea if he would have the patience to do that no idea uh and then again he would have to take a $19 million pay cut to go be an assistant coach and he’d have to work which he doesn’t do much of now relative to what a does seven all Pros L same thing Shan Lee would be a good linebacker coach I think so seems like it but you know what Sean sha Lee is with his beautiful sweetheart traveling the world why on Earth does he want to come grind and watch film at 11 o’clock at night seven all Pros name them Vincent help me name him lamb actually Garrett it’s a little town that begins with an O is where uh he hangs out with his wife Sean Le little town with an O Diggs Dak is on obviously on Micah’s list Micah lamb Zack uh BD wants to count the punter anger okay you can count the punter Tyler Smith there seven the auy there’s eight that’s not ridiculous uh Robert I would say that Daw is not an allpro player at this time but he’s he’s still Pro Bowl caliber that’s it he’s right now argu uh Bland you can put Bland in there as nine Steve Lopez thinks Kendrick will be there I’m not going to lift up a finger for him no Jeff not pton shot but uh Jake Ferguson as a pro bowler no not Zeke uh you want to cheat and say Turpin Starlight does fine Turpin has a return man there’s 10 Ron venters not Dak I know but Micah’s list certainly includes Dak no Stephen White not Hunter lipy that’s 10 L says Dono is a Fringe pro bowler the the the Run stopping safety is a hard Pro Bowl job to get good player got 10 he’s right Jim finnon fish you’re a pro bowler thank you angry Cowboy nean will be at All Pro when what chunky Sam Williams breakout season wouldn’t that be nice let’s get his head screwed on tight shall we the sport overshown let’s get him fitted for a jersey first shall we the sport overshown First Team all pro I I I I like him as a person I I think I like him as a player the sport I will take that bet I will bet you any amount of money within reason that that Agent Zero is not first team all pro this year I’ll bet you any amount of money uh Timothy why would you exclude Dak he finished second in MVP voting and so there’s 10 fingers there’s 10 good fingers slim where do you see Mazy going right here nose tackle occupy bodies that’s where he should be going Curtis Brock Hoffman going to be the center I bet he’s not I bet she’s the backup center Max is Kur still on this team he is not Craig they said overon was Micah 2.0 he’s nothing like Micah Craig who said that show me that one I I your your other story I need to look up now you’re gonna have to send me the link who said that he is nothing like michah Parsons his go go watch him and go watch his college tape at Texas that nothing like Michael Parson’s not in the same now he’s he’s bigger now bigger and stronger no he at at at Texas he was a fly around uh almost a almost a safety hybrid he’s a linebacker safety hybrid Michael Parson’s a defensive end Craig I need the link I don’t I I I love you but they said it does not help me you’re you’re very credible but they said it who whoever said it’s a [ __ ] doesn’t make any sense if if the cowboy I don’t remember the Cowboys ever saying de marvan overon is just like Micah Parsons I am completely unaware of that how about Osa I don’t think Osa is a allpro but let’s find out let’s find out uh Brandon Cook says Chugga nah not a first team All Pro I me you’re not you can’t be the second best receiver on your team and be your first team All Pro all right all right again to the overshown thing I’m not I’m not against him I I know people at Texas that know him well and even T and talked about him at practice uh and his personality plus you know why he wore all those wristbands right he wore all his wristband so after the game he could throw them to kids I mean it’s cool deal but he’s he’s not a pass rush defensive end uh Jeff give me the influence of steroids on the NFL in 2024 I I work on the assumption that they are part of how you recover quickly enough to get big and then you make sure that you you work it through your system before you have to be tested uh camer CL Campbell you think this team’s going to pay CL Campbell what what about what what from this last four months suggests to you that this team is going to sign clas Campbell uh item six I only got the six uh Julius wood I don’t know who Julius wood is rookie safety Julius wood I’m watching him and it doesn’t count as an interception they’re just it’s just not really you know he leaps up in front of the receiver and goes like this and goes and suction cups the ball for an interception with one hand now I’m going to get and by the way I’m going to get to one-handed business in a minute on the late great Larry Allen I mean I don’t so he’s going to make the team now but it was cool item seven my man Richie Wht on boys country.com um and I wrote about my big one-on-one with Larry Allen when we’re at LA Fitness Richie Once Upon a Time with Larry Allen said can I do a one-on-one interview with you and Larry spit some tobacky out and said hop aboard and they went on the golf cart uh this had to have been in Austin right I think and away they went and they talked about his Feats of not even like a human Jeff T fish if I was a brand new fish head totally new to all this world class journalism how would I go about getting the circle with the star ask the fellas they’ll show you how and we know about the 700 pounds we know you know about all that and I did my thing on three more uh quote from Larry Allen who of course passed away this week to Richie back in the day strength is my game I like to dominate my man break him down and let him know that I’m stronger power is my weapon and then Richie asked for him for kind of an example and Larry Allen said I can Palm an 18b bowling ball what diddly diddly dink really I’m just trying I’m trying to imagine it item eight uh so they don’t usually I I don’t recall that they spend a lot of time on kickoffs at mini camp but as you can imagine good idea to do it now start figuring out where people are going to stand you better get going um watch the outrage tomorrow hopefully not from you not from uh 70,000 fish heads of Cabo Nation so tomorrow is day three of this week’s otaa I mean uh mini camp they’re not going to practice oh no they’re going to do what Mike McCarthy does often what the coach before him did what the coach before him did sometimes at training camp what coaches all over the country do all they will will take this OTA day and they will surprise the team by saying guess what fellas we’re going fishing or we’re going to the movies or we’re going to play Jeopardy or we’re gonna go They’re not going to practice tomorrow they’re going to do a we’re g do a fun day a bonding day if you will and then between tomorrow and July 23rd and I put this on Twitter now so I I can let the cat out of the bag they are going to travel on July 23rd to oxnar and so from now to July 23d you have the most nervous time in all the NFL that’s one two three it’s 6 weeks six weeks of guys who since they were eight years old have been kind of told where to stand where to go to the bathroom when to go to lunch what to eat for lunch be at this meeting do this here’s your playbook and for the next six weeks nobody’s going to make them do any of those things and its behavioral worry time yes Joey let’s all go to the Barbie movie item nine uh Dak Prescott asked about urgency because of the lame duck and all the rest and he says you know what you should always have urgency yes but we don’t and he knows it he’s no dummy we don’t we do act different and and and we need to recognize this as sports fans he’s not he’s not playing as hard as so you can’t just like you a doctor lawyer Uber driver shoe salesman you don’t go your hardest all the time we we have es and flows Max what about Zack Martin retirement did it this morning on the show this morning didn’t I and we wrote about it at great L I’ve been I believe it was March 1st that I told you that was in play uh the Zack Martin the Zack Martin potential goodbye and look how it fits with the blow it up strategy look how it fits you can’t I I go I go hard but every once in a while you know you you Cruise a little bit you have to and so d right every day is urgent that’s great Tom Brady gave gave a great presentation the other day he said every time I went to practice I tried to imagine that it was a Super Bowl you tried and it helped then because he goes then when I actually got to the Super Bowl it just felt like another [Laughter] day uh Joey’s got the good strategy I Never Go 100% and the beauty of never going 100% is then your boss thinks that 85 is your max it’s a good strategy item 10 one more Dak about the money and the contract and the possibility that that that he goes lame duck and that lame Duck’s good uh Rao for a guy whose name is Rao I can’t believe that you actually think there’s such a thing as [Laughter] 120% Dak says basically saying I’ll bet on myself he goes hey I’m a Gambling Man I’ll gamble on myself and my team and then he thought about it for a second he goes not literally guys not actually guys I’m not literally actually a Gambling Man so let’s not report me to the NFL Cowboys country.com right now if you please fish out