Early ADP Review: Most Overvalued & Undervalued Players! | 2024 Fantasy Football Advice

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Looking at FantasyPros PPR average draft position, who are the best and worst values at this point? We disagree about Travis Etienne’s value (2:45) but we agree Alvin Kamara could be a steal (8:02) … News and notes (18:10) and a surprising nominee for “Best Keanu Reeves Movie.” Then we get back to our undervalued players with Dan highlighting Diontae Johnson (25:02), D’Andre Swift (28:50) and a couple of older running backs who may not be Top 100 picks (34:02). We also discuss the best value in the Cardinals backfield (39:02) … A look at players who are being drafted too early including D.J. Moore (44:00), Malik Nabers (45:55), Trey McBride (47:35) and Brian Thomas (49:55). We don’t necessarily agree on all of these calls … Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com

0:00 Intro

2:45 Travis Etienne

8:02 Alvin Kamara

18:10 News and Notes

25:02 Diontae Johnson

28:50 D’Andre Swift

34:02 Raheem Mostert, Gus Edwards

39:02 Trey Benson

44:00 DJ Moore

45:55 Malik Nabers

47:35 Trey McBride

49:55 Brian Thomas J

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it’s all about value right it’s great to look at rankings when you combine rankings and average draft position that’s going to help us obviously find the best values and the worst values in fantasy drafts today we’re going to look at fantasy pros PPR ADP which is a little I don’t I don’t know what the right term is it’s unusual I’ll explain why in a moment and we’re going to take a look at Dan’s most overvalued and undervalued players and Jamie will critique uh so fantasy Pro is ADP if you look at half PPR kind of like what what you might expect from a dve you look at PPR though the running backs just plummet so uh you know for example there are like 20 there are 26 wide rece 20 29 20 30 oh my God no there’s 20 okay 27 there we go I’m doing this on the Fly 27 wide receivers off the board before the 10th running back so that’s Travis etn who’s going 42nd overall we expect Travis etn to be a second round pick and not 27 wide receivers come off the board before Travis etn but what we’re going to do is kind of instead of looking at overall ADP we’re just going to look at relative to other players at the same position and that will work for us hello Dan uh hello Jamie good job Dan good job big week for you we get your Most Wanted we get your overvalued and undervalued and we get you on national TV yesterday you have fun I had a great time there it was very exciting I made one Gaff that I think you know brought some laughs though so that was good and same time debuted my new setup back here I’m off the toilet and that’s being retired for now I thought you just the toilet to a different room no this is not a toilet anymore this is a good regular set up it’s but I could use a little bit of work even here I need to work on the lighting I’m not big fan yet of the lighting so that’ll be there’s some tweaks it still needs to happen but you know it’s a big week like you said by by the way we gave you a hard time for your Gaff we didn’t give Adam enough of a hard time for his Gaff where we came back from a break and Adam was just staring at the camera and then F said oh we’re back I didn’t know I didn’t know when to talk you know we’re learn we’re learning new things as we also on the next segment we had like we were getting counted down to when we were back live on air it was like 30 20 and like with when it was like 15 Adam was like wait a second when do I talk like anyway it was a lot of fun hope you enjoyed it uh Dan give me one overvalued player and make it Travis etn so we can argue about it yeah I mean I’m starting with Travis etn obviously we’re talking about relative to position I discussed this a little bit in the past but really it was tale of two seasons for Travis etn and it depends which one you want to buy into because for the first eight weeks of the Season he was the fourth overall running back and one of the best running backs in fantasy after that his touches went down by over six per game the touchdowns were few and far in between the passing game work was still there but the production was not and he had just three finishes inside the top I believe uh as an rb1 I believe over the last uh sorry it was over the last nine games in five of his last nine games he had just four touchdown scores scored and he finished outside the rb2 range in five of his last nine games so he wasn’t even an rb2 for over half of his final nine games of the Season I’m not going to fully buy into the talk of tank bsby having a really good OTAs taking that step forward but I do believe what Doug Peterson hinted at which is you know there was a mental hurdle for bsby that happens a lot with rookie running backs they have to understand the system they have to be you you have to have the the quarterback has to be able to have trust in that running back to have him on the field and key spots uh specifically passing down situations and pass production if that happens I’m even more scared and I also think this offense wants to be pass heavy in its nature Adam and Jamie that’s what doug Peterson’s always been and if Trevor Lawrence can take that step and do a little better with this new receiver core that could happen as well so I just have a lot lot of reservations about Travis etn going off the board relative to where he’s going at the running back position wait you think that you think he’s going to have less of a role in the passing game with without Calvin Ridley no I what I’m saying is I think that the passing game will be a bigger part of their offense uh overall and they’ll be less of a run first team and that’s really what it was for the first half a lot of that the Jaguars offense was going running through Travis etn that just didn’t happen as much in the second half like I said his touches per game dropped by over six per game in the second half of the Season yeah they were worse they went three and six in those nine games and he was the the number 23 running back per game in those nine games so he was bad uh no question about it Jamie he’s going as rb10 Travis etn uh so that’s after there seems to be sort of like a consensus top eight I’d say not in some order it’s kind of like wide receiver mcaffrey uh Bree Hall bejon Gibbs Taylor Barkley maybe it’s that then aan so that’s I’m sorry then uh Kiren Williams aan is actually rb7 in this fantasy pros ADP so he could be overvalued as well uh that’s seven at Kiren Williams then I feel like etn might come in at eight he’s 10 here behind hn behind Kiren behind derck Henry as well what do you think about etn as rb10 Jamie definitely taking uh etn ran definitely taking him over Henry um I think that this Jaguars offensive line will be better so I think that will help him uh in a big way I don’t really buy the tank bsby talk I think there will be another player there so it could be bsby or darus Johnson or both uh kind of like what we saw last year look they they want to make sure that he’s I think 100% and playing at his best toward the end of the season kind of like how he was at the beginning of the season I think he’s going to be a big part of the passing game which is which is um I think a big factor here because you know losing the two pieces that they lost and replacing them with what they did it’s going to take time for Brian Thomas it’s going to take time for Gabe Davis to you know sort of prove that he can be a legitimate threat I I’m obviously a big fan of Christian Kirk and Evan Ingram I think those guys will be fine I think we’ll see a better Trevor Lawrence but etn fits the profile I think of what we look for you know he’s he’s going to get probably 200 250 carries he’s going to get in the neighborhood of 50 catches so 300 total touches that’s hard to overcome hard to overlook uh for what you know this landscape is of of the running back position and I think he’s still in his prime I like the fact you know we talk about uh investment in teams you know they picked up his fifth year option which they didn’t have to do as a as a first round pick running back you know that’s an easy position to move off of and they decided that they’re going to commit to him and so improved offensive line I hope improved play calling because that was a big part of this also last year was who was the play caller was it press Taylor was it Doug Peterson you know I I would love to get an answer on that and I don’t think we still have one even going into this year um but I do think that we’ll see you know etn continue to dominate touches in his backfield while still losing some work which again he did last year too um so I’m not necessarily worried about him uh coming off the field for significant stretches I just think hopefully a fresher etn toward the end of the season be a better one as the season comes to close Okay so Jim’s good with it Jamie has him as rb8 Heath has etn as rb6 in full PPR and Dan is probably going to avoid Travis etn in the second round I will say that I kind of feel the same way about running backs I do as wide receiver you know get to the middle of the second round I don’t necessarily love the running backs if etn Falls to me and I can get him as rb8 in the middle of the second round I mean I it happened to me in a draft I think I went like I’m amandra St Brown Travis etn or something like that and I was thrilled thrilled So when you say fall to you where where are you taking him I’d take him as early it depends how the running backs are going I mean I take him I take Marvin Harrison ahead of him but I would take etn ahead of every wide receiver that we talked about Jamie uh yesterday or two days ago yesterday I think so that would be nine I’d take nine wide receivers ahead of him i’ take seven running backs ahead of him so I guess that makes him the number 17 overall player for me so you have him basically where I have him yeah um okay one undervalued player Dan based on fantasy pros ADP yeah I think Alvin chra comes in for me top of the list for undervalued look I understand the concerns with Alvin chra given the age Factor but if you just look at the whole the holistic Viewpoint of what he was able to produce last year in that offense with Derek Carr who returns the offense a big check down type of quarterback and just basically somebody who will use him as an outlet in the passing game it’s kind of curious to me why his ADP is so low throughout this draft season I understand Kendry Miller good talented running back who they drafted but he will also Calvin ker himself will also benefit from the addition of Clint kubak as the offensive coordinator because that that zone blocking team that he’s going to put in which by the way did bring out the best of dvin cook at a point in dvin Cook’s career where we may not know if he still had what he had like classic you know Prime dvin cook because we saw the last couple the last year without him dvin cook was not the same and if he can do the same for Alvin CRA bring out the best of Alvin CRA as a runner there’s actually more meat on the bone for CH to be an even better fantasy producer because he wasn’t all that productive as a runner last year he brought a lot of his production via the passing game and just such heavy Target volume which I’m not so sure is going to come all the way down I mean they got rid of Michael Thomas obviously Chris olave back but the rest of that offense could still funnel in a lot of ways through chimra and if there’s an improvement from him in the running game with kubak like I said this could be a big season for him again and like like we talked about yesterday I think we saw that we did this on trivia he was the what third or fourth most fantasy points in PPR Alvin being drafted outside what the top 15 at running back this year so I just feel like it’s easy value there yeah he was H fourth best per game in full PPR eighth in half PPR 16th in non PPR so it’s you know format is important here yep and Jamie why do you think Alvin chra is not being treated as a guy who finished as a in half and full PPR a top eight per game and obviously in full P fourth per game last year age I mean you know at some point there’s going to be a fallof here and he’s at that point in his career where you have to worry about it now what he does and I actually hope he gets a little bit of a break carrying the ball because I think the best asset that he brings to Fantasy managers in PPR is his ability to catch the ball which should still be a big part of this offense cuz like Dan said the receiving core is you know unproven um with Rashid Shahed as the number two guy at Perry you know Bub means they have a a lot of guys that need to step up and prove themselves behind even Chris olave who himself has not shown to be that Elite Alpha type of number one receiver that we’re waiting for him to become which I think could happen this year in his third season in the NFL but uh ta Hill still being there is is a factor because of what he’ll do at the goal line uh you mentioned Kendra Miller they still have Jamal Williams so it seems like there’s a of guys that they’re going to try and get the ball in some capacity uh throughout the course of every game we didn’t really see it from Miller last year but I think that’s the expectation is in year two he’s going to do a little bit more and how much more could impact uh you know where chimra finishes as the season goes on but I think as a pass catcher his role should be fine it’s just a matter of will he get to you know eight plus touchdowns and I think that’s a hard thing for him to get to in this offense unless he does break off some big runs but as you’ve noted time and time again Adam the big plays as a runner have completely disappeared from his game which is a little surprising alarming uh but I think that comes with age and part of this offense and how they operate I’m doing this search right now so this uh data search over the last three years Alvin chra does not have a run longer than 30 yards in those three seasons there have been 63 running backs with 200 or more carries he ranks 48th in explosive run rate uh per carry let’s see where I bet he’s even worse than that per carry 54th out of 63 per carry the guys that are worse than CRA are Zeke Josh Kelly Madison Jamal Williams cam Acres Kareem hunt Damen Pierce Rashad white and Mark Ingram so he has I mean and I guess that’s honestly almost an argument in his favor you talk about the drop off we have seen the drop off he has been a below average almost borderline bad running back for three straight years and in those three years in full PPR where’s finished sixth per game 13th per game and fourth per game in half PPR fifth 14th and eighth per game non PPR sixth 19th and 16th per game so he can be as long as he’s getting almost all the work he can be what he’s been and to be clear I’m not arguing him as a breakout just as an undervalued player at Cost it’s almost like the case for my him being undervalue was almost made just there my opinion by you when you mentioned another player Rashad white who has similarly bad rushing metrics and yet I feel like this is almost an Arbitrage play on Rashad white I don’t personally see too much difference between these two maybe Rashad white will fall his way into the end zone a little bit more often maybe that I’m not even sure about that’s a big one there because because as Jamie mentioned taes Hill I I think I said t more rushing touchdowns over those three years than chimra does and that’s the case for sure but it’s is it worth that big of a drop off and where you’re going to be able to get Rashad white versus where you’re getting Cima that I’m not sold on no and Jamie you know I think about I’ve been thinking about this a lot for whatever reason like my mind drifts to this I don’t like drafting you know bad running backs early or guys that might be bad and I think you have to look at chra and say he’s 29 he hasn’t been efficient he’s not explosive for three straight years it’s like everything I felt about Zeke you know and you got to put him at least in that category maybe he’s not good I love what Dan says about the new system maybe boosting him but the thing about chimra Jamie is he he unlike a guy like uh those two scrubs Mike Mike D who was it Mike Davis and Miles gasin that we always come back to he’s C’s a legacy right he’s arguably the face of the franchise he’s not just he’s gonna have a harder time losing his job in my opinion and you know like I don’t I think he has to be compar to Mike Davis and Miles gasin yes even compared to Rashad white you know of course I mean right it’s the same reason why the Cowboys held on toek Elliott and let him have the job that he did when Tony Pard was better and so you could see a similar situation happening with kendri Miller yes their offense doesn’t have a face Derek Carr is not the guy I think that they are trying to mark it as you know hey come watch him you know if Alvin Kamar is as electric as he can be that’s the player I think that people will want to see touch the ball which is why they throw it to him as much as they do um not that the the marketing and the gameplay matches up or or should ever uh but in any event yes they’re they you know are a team without a a face of of an offense and you know I hope Chris olve becomes that guy because he’s capable of it at least in my opinion you know of being you know that that type of wide receiver but look I saw somebody comment in in the chat it’s already moved but we don’t care how we get our PPR points as long as we get them right it’s it’s the it’s the stupidity of PPR when he had the one gay first came back right when he had what was it 13 catches something like that uh yep 13 for 33 right you know so like this is the argument PPR versus halfer versus non why people hate PPR in some cases because of you know silly games like this um but that’s what makes him such an asset is that they don’t have the receiving core to support I think the passing game that they’re hoping to to eventually have and that’s why he’s so valuable so um and and Dan makes a great point you know comparing Rashad white to Alvin Kamar because if you do expect Kamar to hold up at 29 years old then you probably should not be Rashad white in round two and you should just be waiting for Alvin Kamar which is probably going to be my guess earliest end of round three round four ADP for you know how most drafts will look in in in DPR this year because the production should be somewhat similar the touchdown should favor wasad white but the receptions are probably going to favor chimra slightly I do think Rashad White’s role should still be pretty good in that regard but in any event um if if these are the type of players that you gravitate toward then you might want to just wait out for CRA as opposed to reaching for white okay let’s uh cut it off there we got to take a break uh we also have uh CBA Sports HQ for you to be watching NBA final start tomorrow NHL Stanley Cup finals start on Saturday there’s golf there’s so much soccer going on right now obviously baseball and full swing and yeah there’s it’s always football season find out what’s going on in mini camps OTAs all that stuff so check out CBS Sports HQ and we’re going to take a break and come back and give you a lot of news and notes and more of Dan’s undervalued and overvalued players have you heard of semag glue ties kmic monjaro apman this could be dangerous let’s do it South Park the end of obesity new exclusive event now streaming exclusively on Paramount plus I love we get a South Park promo there and I can see backstage when we’re off camera Dan and Schaefer just like cracking up I hear the I think that was Trey Parker right the Trey Parker voice I just just cracks be a amazing show new better such a better show than family guy that definitely better than Family Guy not not in my opinion better than the Simpsons but it’s better than the Simpsons yeah seen like you’ve seen like four Simpsons episodes what’ you say you’ve seen about four Simpsons I’ve seen enough Simpsons I’ve seen enough Simpsons it’s too smart for you Christian mcaffrey signed a two-year contract extension this is for years 2026 in 2027 yeah worth $19 million a year you’re also getting an additional $8 million for this year and next year so that’s four years he’s going to be 28 years old on Friday happy Birthday Christian mcaffrey uh we don’t really have to talk about this but over the last five seasons Alvin chra and Dalvin cook are the only other running backs to average 23.8 or more PPR fantasy points which he has done now four times uh Christian mcaffrey so uh he’s just the best we got a lot of OTA or mini camp notes Here P Patriots offensive coordinator he prays Drake may but also said that jacobe brassett has had an exceptional spring and is still the starter so jacobe Bret still the starter right now for the Patriots if you have tayin Burks on your Dynasty team not a great day yesterday he’s basically that has to earn his active roster spot on special teams which is a big deal now with these new rules yeah but you can’t be feeling great about Trin bur I don’t understand why a team just doesn’t trade for him to see what can yeah what else we got Adonai Mitchell Colts rookie he seems to be having a good camp we’re going to keep an eye on that we don’t need a lot of Target competition for Michael Pitman Carolina rookie wide receiver Xavier Legette he has a hamstring injury Mike McCarthy there is this story going around Mike McCarthy saying that Dallas will use two or three running backs whatever it takes I think he was more talking like getting through the season not necessarily on a week- toe basis but we’ll just call call that a big question mark in that backfield and ADP is not really showing you know a big preference towards Zeke by the way it’s like Zeke and dowle I think pretty close and pretty late um Minnesota is moving to keil Harry former first round pick of the Patriots at wide receiver the Vikings are moving nikel Harry to tight end Jamie is there any any value there in any leagues where you’d pick up nikel Harry if he’s tight end eligible I mean I wonder just how much of this is that T.J hackinson not ready to go story more so than a nil Harry story trying to get maybe a better receiving threat there they did add Robert tunan this offseason uh between Josh Oliver and Johnny Mt obviously not a lot of explosiveness there from what they’re going to be missing if hinson’s out but it’s probably more of uh I should avoid TJ hackinson if they’re looking for desperation plays at the tight end position because they may not expect him to be ready to go ESPN’s Paul gueras said that in the three otaa practices open to the media Raiders quarterback Aiden oconnell has looked more comfortable and more precise in passing while Garder muu has been more mobile and we’ll direct you to Aiden OK connell’s last four games 34 points against the Chargers two points at the Chiefs he threw for 62 yards that was a a big uh Josh Jacobs day as I or zamir white day as I recall they upset the Chiefs uh then 24 points at the Colts and 22 points against the Broncos so he actually had eight touchdown downs and I don’t think any interceptions in his last four games aen no Connell and Devonte Adams had two massive games one good game one terrible game in that stretch Minnesota head coach Kevin oconnell said they never considered trading Justin Jefferson he was adamant about that CD lamb and Brandon auk did not report to mini camp Dave Richard right now is in Chicago he was at Bears mini camp he said that basically said they all look good Keenan Allen played pretty much exclusively out of the slot DJ Moore was the best receiver uh Andre Swift started but the other guys worked with the ones and he said Gerald Everett was working with the ones a lot I think caught him by surprise a little bit and Caleb looked very good according to Dave until they were doing 11 11 on 11 and the pass rush got there and then you saw some speed bumps for Caleb Williams a few pop culture things here there’s a movie apparently called Constantine with kaana Reeves that got a lot of love in our chat people thought it was his best movie never even heard of it yeah I never heard of it either big debut in Major League Baseball last night dingz Adam major oh oh I heard I saw I saw Frank tweet this last night Adam maer making his debut what is it Adam major if there’s a there’s a in there it’s a major m a z a but starting pitcher Adam major a fast enough yes exactly because the M Blends in out of major Asia I gotta track this guy did you add him yet for your fantasy team where Jack is screwing you guys over and not giving you the win ridiculous no we didn’t add them our team’s too good uh and I I don’t know I I watched uh went back and I watched the season four finale of stranger things okay random it’s just such an amazing show I cannot wait for that show to just randomly watch the finale of it well I’ve seen the whole thing I really want to rewatch the whole thing but I was like yeah is a new season coming for that show no I think next year yeah not not anytime soon the kids are going to have like full beard they’re going to be balding by the time the best show and I’ve got that song Running up that hill in my head like oh it’s so good yeah right I started rewatching The Sopranos so good such a good rewatch early Sopranos 2 is so good or like season one two when when with Olivia with his mom oh yeah I’m in I’m episode N9 of season 2 oh nice you’re in like the sweet spot of that show what are you nodding at Adam you don’t like sabranos no I never seen it but I I I know I know I know I know I know talking about watching rewatching of The Stranger Things finale but you can’t even have find time to watch Sopranos the wi Amy how many of your kids have seen stranger things when can you start watching it with oh none it’s a pretty adult show honestly I think like 12 years old yeah I mean my oldest might but um not I mean no he’s just turned 12 okay yeah get into that I can’t I that’s I’m excited for that day all right scary show too like I don’t think you want your kids watching that yeah it’s okay to be scared I was watching scary stuff when I was a kid we have if you have an older brother you guys don’t I have older brother and sister I was watching horror movies when I was way younger 12 explain what’s the first one you saw I have no idea I probably like Nightmare on Elm Street or something but I have no idea you know that your parents were not happy about that and W up they don’t care nobody cares about the third kid first one one for me was was Poltergeist it scared the bleep out of me oh it’s a scary movie that’s legit I do remember watching that as a kid and being really scared nightmare I’m I mean it’s kind of it’s okay Friday the 13th is terrible but Poltergeist is good here we go Dan’s undervalued list 25 minutes in so I’m gonna go three minutes per player okay you gotta make your point let Jamie make his point camra was your most undervalued Deontay Johnson he’s wide receiver 43 go ahead yeah I just love what I’ve read about Deontay Johnson this offseason there was a there was a clip that circulated the other day with Panther’s new offensive coordinator discussing with Deontay Johnson look we brought you over because I’ve seen you on tape win Time After Time After Time again when you’re lined up as the ex receiver and they don’t shade any safety cover to your side and if they’re going to do that again this year we’ve added these guys around him Xavier Legette all the talent they’ve added around him we’re going to get you the football and I think that’s going to be the case I think deontre Johnson’s going to lead this team in targets by a wide mark margin and he’s going to be a really productive player and I don’t have to pay that much to get him so this is more of a PPR play for sure but at that price why receiv receiv 43 for a player who has proven to just earn targets and get open and create separation at all levels of the field consistently and he’s done it with really bad quarterback play I’m not saying I’m sure that Bryce young is gonna Elevate the quarterback play that he’s had with Kenny picket and Mason Rudolph and players of that nature but I am sure that they have brought him in for a reason to win those one-on-one matchups as the true X receiver in this offense and I’m really excited about getting what I think is the number one targeting offense this late in the draft I I I totally agree with most of that the one thing that scares me is because you you brought it up um there was a clip circulating last year from the Carolina Panthers about a player in a role that was brought in Mingo and no it was mil Sanders Sanders yeah I forgot about that we’re gonna catch you the ball the level you’re at was du Staley and Frank Reich I think was definitely Frank Reich was involved in it and and Sanders was ter as a free agent Edition but the uh the thing the thing about um Deontay Johnson and you know you mentioned crappy quarterback play when he had decent quarterback play because it was the end of Ben rothberger tenure there uh he was one of the best F PPR receivers and one of the better fantasy receivers that we had you know it was why I think we were still you know hopeful for the last couple of years that he could bounce back and play at that level so will he dominate targets that’s the thing I have the question about he should lead the team in targets but you know I I think fing will will be one of those annoying factors that will sort of bring him down a little bit and then whatever they get out of Legette or the other guys there you know I don’t like the fact that leet is dealing with a hamstring injury now that should help Deontay Johnson but um in terms of the other guys there how much of that will be a a detractor for him because I don’t know how much you know they they’ve talked about wanting to be a little bit more of a runhe heavy offense uh will that take away from it but you said it best the price tag is so easy to buy into Deontay Johnson and so you know he may not be aund catch guy but if things go right he stays healthy Bryce young takes even a slight step forward 80 catches is easy to see um touchdowns are probably be a little bit difficult but he could be a good number three PPR wide receiver so he’s he’s a little underpriced but can certainly outproduce his ADP by a lot I’m gonna give you the guys going around the same range as Johnson DeAndre Hopkins Brian Thomas Christian Watson yeah I don’t see any of those three having the same path toward targets as Deontay Johnson but the other guys have more upside though for sure all right so who are you taking first Jamie Hopkins Deontay Brian Thomas Christian Watson uh it really depends what I need you know so if I’m looking for like in our in our pick by picks was half PPR my first two receivers were Jaylen Wadd and George Pickins as a third receiver on that team I’m looking more for receptions then I would be for for more explosiveness okay if I’m if I’m pretty locked into I know I’m getting 100 catch receivers for sure I probably would take a chance on Christian Watson over Deontay Johnson in that case you know just for the the bigger play bigger upside potential so it just kind of depends on how the build is me all right Dan thinks Jaden Daniels and Brock pie are underrated they’re going similarly after pick 100 I think we talked about that earlier this week on Dan’s most wanted list so let’s go to DeAndre Swift he is rb22 he’s going after Aaron Jones and zamir white just ahead of Naji Harris this is DeAndre Swift make your case for DeAndre Swift as undervalued at rb22 it starts with following the money for me I mean when you see a team go out and do what the Bears did right at the start of fre agency they went made sure to get DeAndre Swift one of the first deals of free agency they gave him a good lucrative contract for a running back it stands out to me it says to me that they are looking for something in their offense at the running back position they felt like they didn’t have with Herbert and ran Johnson and maybe that’s that electricity that ability to be in every down you know be a threat on every down essentially be able to be a receiver or Runner on every down which I’m not sure they felt they had with Roshan Johnson Deontay Foreman or khil Herbert and with that said I’m banking on the Bears offense taking a big step this year which is something I personally believe in I’m a big fan of Caleb Williams I think he’s the best quarterback prospect I’ve personally ever studied including Trevor Lawrence who had you know more of the prototypical skill set but Caleb Williams arm Talent was just unmatched from what I’ve seen and so if that offense takes the jump I expect them to take and DeAndre Swift is the piece of the offense that they brought him into be and paid him to be we’re looking at someone who’s probably going to end up on the field a lot more often than we think getting a lot more receptions than we think compared to the rest of the running back position which is not an easy thing to do and then finding his way into the end zone six to eight times maybe which is all you’ll need with those receptions and at that price you’re probably going to get a borderline rb1 just outside the top 12 in scoring and you’re getting him at what rb22 you said so I just think there’s a good piece uh a good chance for Value here with Swift I would love to see them just get rid of one guy will Herbert you know feel better feel a lot better I mean you know he would probably jump five or six spots in my rankings right now he’s like you know in that range 22 23 um you know but it’s just a matter of how much will they use the other guys and uh but I agree with you I mean you know he’s he’s a great buy at his cost right now and you know I don’t think gets the credit he deserves for how he performed last year because he missed out on a lot of touchdowns because of the touch push you know so had he scored I think Adam we talked about this you know three to five more touchdowns we feel a little bit different about Deandre of coming off that season where he can still be an electric pass catcher they just didn’t use him in that regard as much in in Philadelphia I think they will a little bit more in in Chicago he did it in Detroit for sure um and you know he he showed he could be a 20 carry guy he stayed healthy the majority of the Season missed the final week of the season but that’s you know sort of irrelevant based on how most teams operate when they’re in playoff contention so um but if khil Herbert stays there will they use three guys you know and it’s a little bit of a conundrum right now because Herbert had some great games for them last year you know missed some time with the ankle injury but when he was you know used as that double digit carry guy was productive and I do think that Roshan will show a little bit more so it kind of gives me a little bit of of hesitation so the guys that I struggle with with swift are guys that are in you know similar situations from from a competition standpoint it’s Jonathan Brooks if you told me he was healthy I’d take Brooks no no question about it but we have the ACL consideration and then James Connor who I think is getting a little undervalued as well because of the the presence of Trey Benson I still think that Conor will be the lead running back there but those are the two guys really that I debate from a uh a touch standpoint Swift versus Conor right now I lean Conor but that’s probably a switch that I’ll make okay I think you know he was 24th last year per game and that was with five or six cares that got down to the one yard line and were followed by tush push touchdowns do you think do you think DeAndre Swift is going to be better than he was last year I think he will be mostly because of the receptions I do think you’re going to see a massive uptick there I think GB is somebody who can use the running back in the passing game unlike Jaylen Herz did so I do think he will so you you say massive upgrade in the passing game um and I know you like Romo dun because we’ve talked about that yeah and now we’re getting trickier right now we need a big 4,500 yard type offense to to make right but you also said on a previous show you didn’t think 4,000 yards for for Caleb Williams so yeah no I did I said I said no I said I did on that my bull prediction was he’s going to break the pass said under that but breaking the the no no no I think he’ll do it I really I’m I’m very confident in him rookie rookie quarterbacks don’t typically throw to running backs that much CJ strad was had one of the lowest running back Target rates last year Anthony Richardson may have been even lower but he barely played just kind of a thing and there are yeah but he only had 39 catches last year in 16 games so he could he could have an uptick there by the way according to both PFF and ESPN’s run block win rate the Chicago Bears had a top six offensive line last year run blocking so I know people are going to go oh huge downgrade from Philadelphia to Chicago actually the Bears offensive line appears to be a strength let’s go to our next player and that would be um Joe Ford uh yeah I’m gonna go I’m gonna go off board a little bit here okay go off board go off board Ford’s like the lowest ranked guy on this list okay okay you’ve got um moster and Gus Edwards yeah it’s it’s weird obviously no one’s excited to draft either of these two this year but I looked at the ADP on fantasy pros and it was stunned to see you essentially just free Square plays let’s start first with rahee moard who I understand they added Jaylen Wright I think a lot has been made of the addition of Jaylen Wright in the draft and too much has been made when I watched him at Tennessee there were some exciting moments but you really have to take everything with a grain of salt because of the system that Josh hyp runs at Tennessee they have if you guys have seen it it’s pretty incredible how they utilize the space on the field and there’s the wide receivers are really lined out a line which means every single time it’s a light box six defenders in a box sometimes five defenders in a box and Jaylen Wright looks really good but I wonder if that space is going to be available for him at the NFL level and if it’s not I wonder if he’s going to be able to be effective right away at the NFL level and I don’t see it happening so I think this is going to be a two-man game with Raheem moart and Devon Anan and I don’t see any reason why moster shouldn’t do something similar to what he did last year sure there will be touchdown regression but at this cost you’re not asking for anywhere near what he did last year so just feel like you’re G to get a guy who can slot in as your rb2 every week withe moart he’s G to score some weeks um maybe a flex but at this price that’s all you’re paying and then Gus Edwards brought in to fit this exact regime has played with Greg Roman and I look around that roster and what am I really all that worried about JK Dobbins who has never been able to stay healthy at any point in his career and has had so many debilitating injuries sure on paper Dobbins looks more like a better fit than uh Edwards and a more exciting explosive player but I can’t buy into him staying healthy and then other players who they’ve brought in there to play running back I’m not so sure will get on uh the field right away in year one like they they brought in a rookie I’m forgetting blanking on who it was I think it was yeah Vidal who a lot of people are excited about in the community but in the fantasy Community Based on the based on the fact he was drafted by the Chargers but that’s a rookie I’m not so sure a rookie is getting on the field for a lot of snaps he’s going to have to be really good in pass bro so I think Gus could end up playing a lot more snaps than we think in an offense that really blocks well and Designs the Run game well and once again we could be looking at another season where Gus Edwards is an rb2 you don’t have to pay for him as an rb2 just like with moster you’re paying rb4 prices so I just think there’s good chance for you know value and I like these guys specifically if I have a very wide receiver heavy build okay ghost Edwards and mo moard is rb28 Jamie and Edwards is RB 35 in this fantasy pros PPR ranking I I just I wonder with moster and this you know goes back to the ADP even you know that Devon anan’s the number seven running back coming off the board and most are 28 which I think is fairly priced I have them a little bit lower than that because I do think that there’s going to be a a bigger role for Anan and some role for for Jaylen Wright and the touchdowns you know crater for moster he had 18 to lead the NFL last year is he going to be as productive elsewhere plus he’s to be 32 years old so I’m just a little concerned that we don’t get what we’re hoping for here which is the breakout for Anan and still moster being a safe rb2 which is you know I think kind of what Dan’s getting at that you can still start him consistently now you’re not drafting him to be that way which is fine you know if you’re drafting to be a highend flex with the hope that it becom something more or if he doesn’t get you to that level of production at least you’re not investing in him as a starter so I think the again the ADP is fine but I just don’t see these two working out the same way where they’re both going to get what you’re looking for which is still good production for mostard and hn taking a step forward so I I can’t really buy into both for Edwards I think it’s spot on you know he’s he’s um not the type of guy that you typically want to invest in but he’s in the right offense that you want to invest in because as Dan said they’re going to run the ball a lot uh JK Dobbins I was extremely excited about him last year I got a half of production from him that I was looking for and that was that was it he’s missed 43 games since coming into the NFL in 2020 that’s just awful you know so maybe this is the year he surprises us and stays healthy because it is a good landing spot but hard to bank on now Vidal is easy to draft and this is you know we talked about this with the Cincinnati backfield it’s such an easy investment to get Zach moss and Chase Brown it’s even easier to get the two Chargers guys two of the Chargers guys if you want to and I would lean toward getting both Edwards and Vidal and you can get Edwards like you said RB 36 Vidal is basically free you know so if you want to get pieces of this backfield just to see how it all shakes out I highly recommend doing it so um not a bad call to get both those guys just on on that team and see what how it all unfolds all right we got to take a break here we’re going to talk about one more player and it’s not going to be Jerome Ford on the undervalued list and then we’ll do some overvalued players we’ll be right back on fantasy football today there’s some new players in town and they brought the plague he got my attention you don’t want that Rob to Kingston mayor of King Town new season now streaming exclusively on Paramount Plus I see Trey Benson on Dan’s undervalued list he’s already 32 he’s going right after guys like Raheem moart Tony Pard and Devin Singletary this is Trey Benson Cardinals Rookie he’s going before Taj Spears and Brian Robinson uh we I don’t remember which show we talked about but Taj Spears still is uh one of the best draft values for sure but as far as Benson goes you know he’s going only five running back picks after James Conor and I actually think Conor is the better value here Dan as RB 27 Benson is one of the first like true well I don’t know how much you think he’s gonna play but handcuffs I would call him like I don’t I don’t think he’s Taj Spears in terms of role and we you know if everyone’s healthy so I I look at it very differently I don’t think they drafted him where they drafted him to be a handcuff at all um this is a player who two years ago broke the uh uh Force Miss tackle uh record from Pro Football Focus forced to miss tackle on almost a half of his carries it was a previous record held by Travis etn and javante Williams who I know we look at Jon Williams a different way now but back in college coming out of UNC he was a freak who forced a lot of Miss tackles and that’s an advanced metric that seems to carry over and predict success he also ran a 439 and it’s obvious on tape that he has that Breakaway speed that ability to kind of create Force Miss tackles in space and manipulate angles I find him to be one of the best talents he was my rb1 in this class so I don’t think when you use that kind of early capital on a player like that he’s just going to be a handcuff I think his role could be pretty similar to Taj Spears in a much better offense that scores a lot more points and in addition to that he has a guy ahead of him in James Connor who has an injury history and has battled injuries at times pretty much every year of his career so if there’s a better chance for me in my mind to potentially see you know a Workhorse role I think it’s coming from Benson I’m not so sure I mean I believe Taj Spears can be a Workhorse despite his dimunitive size but I’m not so sure the Titans do but I do believe that but I know Trey Benson can be because he was that at Florida State and he has the size for it he’s a much bigger back than Taj Spears so I think you’re talking about incredible talent that they went up and got in the draft for an offense that could take a big Leap Forward I think he’s gonna have a role early and could potentially be you know a league winning Pick if James Conor does get injured again and you’re getting that really late in a draft this is very late for a t for probably what I would consider the The Talented uh the most talented running back in class you could argue Jonathan Brooks and that’s fine I understand that um but it’s one or the other of these two so I just like the overall landscape of that I’m getting I’m getting really good value in my mind because I’m getting a potential League winning Pick he didn’t really go that early I mean it was a third round pick if you look at third round third round pick 66 overall yeah yeah basically you know back that’s the one of the first picks of the third round sure it is a third round pick and I don’t know rookie Roshan Johnson was a third round pick last year um who else I think he might have been the only third round pick uh Rashad white was third round pick he did nothing Jonathan Taylor went off the board 45 overall backs don’t get drafted High I don’t know uh all right I mean 66 is kind of high for a running back for sure it is yeah but also like it is round three and round three picks typically don’t do much as rookies but a lot of people obviously agree with you Dan they obviously agree with you they’re taking B they don’t I think they don’t have a lot of faith in Connor it’s basically what I’m what I’m seeing here uh Jamie how much how many rounds should separate Connor and Benson I don’t think very many just because Conor’s going to fall which like you said makes him a great value pick because if he stays healthy he will be the best running back in Arizona uh Benson I think is going to need an injury to Connor to be a starting Cali caliber fantasy asset but I do think he’s one of the best insurance policies you can have and certainly one of the better lottery tickets you have because Dan said Conor gets hurt almost every year of his career uh it’s just a matter of you know how much will these guys work in tandem together and that’s still a little bit of a concern because they haven’t shown even in two different coaching staffs since Conor has been there that they’ve wanted to give other guys work now again they haven’t had a guy’s talented as Trey Benson so I think that comes into play but uh look Benson is is going to be one of these guys that you take with a mid- round pick don’t take him with the uh idea of him being a starter hope that he could become a starter because of the the Conor track record and then we’ll see what happens if he runs away with the situation when Connor is banged up you know so um I don’t I don’t mind them going close together because I think people are excited about Benson and a little bit down on Connor but I think that just makes Connor the better pick to get because the further he falls the better off it’ll be for your fantasy time to look at Dan’s overvalued players and it was Travis etn we talked about at the top of the show DJ Moore is wide receiver 19 he’s going 25th overall which really could definitely happen in your drafts I mean I think I saw it in the draft I the only fans draft I did a few days ago the what it was only our fans were doing it only okay okay uh anyway d DJ moris going ahead of Stefan Diggs the GU we’re gonna talk about one guy who’s the most overvalued player in the world next but anyway do you think DJ Moore it’s too high at wide receiver 19 Dan yeah just a little bit too high for me I think part of what’s made DJ Moore such a fantasy success has been lack of Target competition around him didn’t have much to work against him last year with Chicago same was the case in Carolina and that led to a dominant in Target share I’m not so sure that’s the case anymore we talked about DeAndre Swift who might be brought in and have a little bit of role in Basking game but also Romo dun one of the best wide receiver prospects I thought I’ve studied in the last 10 years I he would have been wide receiver one in seven of the last 10 draft classes for me as with all of those big three receivers neighbors and Marvin Harrison so now you bring in a really really good talent to compete with for Targets in addition to Keenan Allen who still had like top two top three separation rate last year in the NFL so just a lot of Target competition he didn’t used to have plus still a rookie quarterback I’m bullish on uh yeah bullish on him but bullish is when you when you believe you’re bullish I’m bullish on Caleb Williams but still a rookie quarterback and like you said rookie quarterbacks have tended to not have that that much success and the Bears have never had a 4,000 yard pass I say that I don’t think I said that pretty they don’t throw a running back throw their running back no I mean rookie quarterbacks didn’t have a lot of success things are changing a little bit just Stroud really no I gu like I said yesterday or whenever you on Baker Mayfield set a touchdown record yeah who else Herbert set the toubert was the real one yeah Herbert broke it and and uh burrow was pretty good actually before he got hurt as a and then yeah and he could do it I’m just it’s a lot of Target competition there that he’s never had in his entire career so I just think you’re paying the price for his past production okay Malik neighbors is wide receiver 21 is just wild as as a Malik neighbors guy yeah way too early it’s too early uh for a multitude of reasons mostly the Giants passing game has been absolute abject disaster um they have made some additions on the offensive line to try to improve what was the dead last worst offensive line in football last year by every metric but you know not crazy improve I mean they brought in John runan who they believe can help and they’re still banking on Evan Neil so there’s a chance that offensive line remains a disaster it’s not a guarantee in addition to that Daniel Jones not a quarterback who throws the football very well at any point in his career uh has had seasons of 11 touchdown passes 10 15 was his breakout season in 2022 so the touchdowns are going to be tough to come by from a leak Neighbors in year one now I still think he can potentially give you what Jaylen wad gave the Dolphins is a rookie which is kind of that Mickey and I love I’m gonna credit Matt Haron for this because he brought this up and I really thought it was a great point it’s a lot of that kind of like Mickey Mouse style offense quick targets layup throws just get the ball out to him and then he can do some damage and will and that could be a high reception total maybe a good amount of yards a little over a thousand but the touchdowns are going to hold him back so at this price you need him to score eight nine 10 touchdowns I just it’s gonna be it’s hard for me to see him get into that touchdown range I used to do a pretty decent Mickey Mouse voice when my kids were watching Mickey Mouse Clubhouse I don’t think I have the guts to try it right now no let’s go come on come on was like that’s decent now go with it commit commit commit on Musketeers are you mous ready it’s just like that’s pretty good actually yeah you know what you earn you you you earn praise for that one Jamie I’m gonna get your thoughts on Trey McBride who Dan has on his overvalued list tight end three going seven picks ahead of Mark Andrews as a round four pick 44th overall is Trey McBride being overvalued as Dan would say I like Andrews better but I don’t think he’s overvalued in round four I I think we’re going to see you know another you know productive season from him uh you know Dan brought this up I think it was on our CBS Sports Network show yesterday that you know the the target crunch is something to be a little bit concerned about because Marvin Harrison Jr is now there and you know Z Jones and Michael Wilson and Greg dorch you know those guys will will command some level of targets but I I think from what we saw from McBride you know second year breakout you know he was on Pace to lead tight ends in points per game from week six on when Zack Herz was gone it was you know by percentage points but it was or by decimal points but it was close um he’s he’s got the ability I think to be one of these Elite tight end producers and it’s just a matter of you know how much will kylo Murray continue to lean on him it is a very tight and friendly offense you know this the the office coordinator’s name escaping me right now but comes from Cleveland um who you know under Kevin stefansky very tight end friendly offense we saw that last year with how they used Z in the beginning of the season and then certainly how they used McBride at the end of the season and I think that will continue and so I don’t mind him as tight end four um again for me he’s getting closer to Dalton concade than he is the other three because I think you know Mark Andrew is getting overlooked a little bit so he’s one of the better values in the in the upper echelon of players but um I don’t mind him in round four and I don’t mind him being drafted in the elite level group of Titans okay I’m GNA help you out with the offensive coordinator’s name which I looked up uh his last name it’s two syllables first syllable Jamie you bought one of these a few months ago as I recall okay uh it’s furry you love it yeah dog right is one name for it um second syllable is like when you make a really funny joke you know and somebody would say after like so okay we have dog haha or we have petzing pet yep Drew petzing Zing okay uh any who let’s go to Kean Allen you also have any Brian Thomas wide receiver 44 I’m gonna go to him and wide receiver 44 for Brian Thomas so this is just after Roma dun and Deontay Johnson just before Christian Watson and Jackson Smith and Jackson Smith and jiga who are I think easy calls over Brian Thomas personally um what do you think about Brian Thomas at wide receiver 44 you say he’s overvalued look I don’t hate the idea of investing in Brian Thomas for the upside and I’m always a big fan at this stage of the draft of buying into topside but I think it’s really important to note that he came from an offense late breakout at LSU and if you look at the route tree last year he really just ran two routes at LSU and that offense is a very I talk about Josh hypo’s offense at Tennessee and how it’s tough to car to find carryover from that to the NFL game it’s somewhat tough to find it with Brian gelly’s offense which I think could be interesting for Jaden Daniels in Washington by the way a lot of slot Fades that just won’t be available to him at the NFL level the space is just not there and that really worked in Brian Thomas’s favor that kind of space and again running two routes if he has to take time to learn the route tree or perfect the route tree will that time be spent on the field or will that time be spent on the practice field um they have a lot of options that could play ahead of him they have multiple tight ends they could get on the field they just spent a second round pick last year on Brenton strange I’m not certain they’re gonna go never put him on the field this year after that kind of investment especially with him having a year up in the system over Brian Thomas so there’s just option to get on the field I’m scared that he just will be one of those guys that just doesn’t play a lot early in the season and you know we’re getting him at a spot where like you said there’s guys like Deontay Johnson Jackson jba guys I know who will be on the field Jamie would you take uh Christian Watson and jsn ahead of Brian Thomas yes uh you know I I think again raw product raw Prospect great opportunity second half of the season I think he could be a lot of fun and and very productive but I think the same thing for those two guys you know I mean Watson you know I I said it a few times now that I think if he’s healthy gets this hamstring injury under control he could be the best receiver for the Packers and has shown um you know based on his high-end production and for jsn I think the offensive change in Seattle will benefit him plus if there’s an injury to any of the guys in front of him he can be an absolute Superstar so I would take those two guys over Thomas who is stepping into a great situation you know over 200 targets vacated without Calvin Ridley and Z Jones there but I think Christian Kirk and uh Ingram and what etn does in the passing game plus Gabe Davis is going to you know help negate a lot of those vacated targets and and not necessarily allow Brian Thomas to flourish right away so he going to take some time but could eventually become you know a good good player but I think there’s other two guys a little bit better so the thing about Thomas is that you know as I sit here today I don’t really feel like I want to draft him we just talked about why but yeah the fact that he is a raw Prospect and I think I think he’s gonna be third on his team in targets and you know whatever probably not going to be great this year but that Justin Jefferson just sticks in the back of my mind just Jefferson was drafted similarly you know in terms of what pick was used uh Justin Jefferson I think was the fifth wide receiver taken and Thomas was the fourth they were both first round picks Jefferson came in look at his ADP that year no expectations really I mean like just like oh he’s the first- round pick we should draft him uh but nobody really expected much but he was obviously a Stefon Diggs replacement Diggs was traded and Thomas is obviously see a Calvin Ridley replacement and I almost feel like I have to be more open-minded about Brian Thomas this is separate from whether or not he’s overvalued or undervalued but you know I see like major downside not even worth rostering basically uh Quinton Johnston not quite that bad but jsn you know like like just not just because he was a first- round pick doesn’t mean anything but I also I can’t get over the fact that there are similarities it reminds me of Jefferson I guess the college the explosiveness all that stuff I don’t want to eliminate the the possibility that he is a huge surprise this year I don’t disagree with what you’re saying but you know look we get I think a little bit enamored with and understandably so because these teams invest in them but with these first round wide receivers I mean taylen Burks has been a bust Jaylen rager was a bust um you know it it’s not a foolproof situation that just because the guy goes in the first round that he’s going to be a superstar and so look the opportunity is there again vacated targets huge opportunity quarterback that hopefully will play better but has been disappointing but you know again if he’s healthy Trevor Lawrence can still produce great production from his his receiving core and there’s a chance that Thomas is the best receiver on his team if he can pick things up right away but I think everybody viewed him coming into the league as a prospect that still needs to grow a little bit after just having one year of exceptional production at College like you said the college makes you feel like okay they’ve produced great wide receivers they certainly have you know I mean um LSU has been you know wide receiver University for the last couple of years and how they’ve gotten guys into the league and playing at a high level but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’s going to be a a star right away so um where you’re drafting him in in in the 40s it’s an easy investment taking him over some of those other guys you know I don’t necessarily think you have to but again he could be better than those guys there’s there’s there’s no doubt about it so yes you should be more open-minded to it I think it’s a more fascinating conversation almost from a dynasty perspective than it is from redraft because you’re sinking a first round pick into a guy that you’re hoping to be the you know future wide receiver one wide receiver two on your team and the group that he’s going with there’s no sure thing I think either you know where’s the highend level for lad makon you know I think people will say okay maybe he’s Keenan Allen but that’s a big leap because Keenan Allen’s been amazing Xavier worthy you know speed guys haven’t been great because I at with the seventh pick of our Dynasty draft which I’m gonna start soon I if it comes down to it I will take Xavier worthy over Brian Thomas well it’s funny because I went through our draft last last night cuz I was bored and I was looking at like what teams may do you should have an opportunity to probably end up with JJ McCarthy or Drake May which I think you need I don’t want them I I just talking about baked Burger yeah okay interesting what pick do you I believe in I don’t know that I believe in McCarthy and I you you want it I’ll tell you let me see if I can predict it correct seven pick I’ll do it at the end of the show I think there is a chance that I get adun or neighbors there is a chance no I no shot either those two why I think Harrison Harrison’s off the board okay the Harrison’s off the board three I looked at this I’m telling you I did it last night looked at everybody’s roster and what they’re gonna do um first pick has momes Prescott and Baker not taking a quarterback so taking Marvin Harrison um second pick has no quarterback give me give me your projected top six Harrison goes one Caleb goes two uh neighbors goes three Heath has no quarterbacks he’s taking Daniel which is easy four uh five is Odun so three and five are the same team so ends up with oh um Neighbors in Odun because they have quarterbacks or maybe Jonathan Brooks but that that’s where that goes um Bobby’s Allstars probably goes Bowers and then it’s you which I think so listen if you get if you get Bowers as six and you get Brooks or another quarterback instead of neighbors or Odun then there you go that third receiver Falls to seven but you going you going um bro I’m taking Xavier worthy over Drake mayor in superflex I need a third quarterback I’m probably gonna quarterback at nine okay I’m I’m going with Xavier worthy over qb3 I think [Music] we’ll see we’ll see I’m open for business too I ultimately ended up trading last year during the draft Dalton concade for a future first that’s this year’s first it ends up being the second to last pick I’m not so sure I love that trade anymore by me at the time I was like it’s a great trade this is a phenomenal trade by me I’m getting a one but now I’m like I don’t know about that I think I’d rather have Dalton concade than whatever I’m gonna get at the last second last pick would you rather have Dalton concade Brian Thomas or Xavier worthy D I think Dalton K Kate yeah so I don’t think I did good on on that I think I think worthy has like just not year one necessarily but just massive potential yeah think about the players that they’ve had there I think I don’t think any I don’t think Worthy is like any of the players they’ve had in I don’t disagree with youill and they’re about to lose Kelce at some point they’re gonna lose Kelsey it just he makes me nervous though I mean I mean they failed on M Hardman they failed on Sky Moore they failed on um what was the third guy I mean Tony but they try to yeah yeah Tony’s a whole different issue Brian Thomas caught 17 touchdowns last year by the way 12 of them were considered deep uh by True Media mostly go routes and post routes I just don’t think he’s ready year to be him okay we gotta go now that I dropped that super cool oh we have a draft in 15 magazine draft in 15 minutes baby draft in 15 minutes list oh real draft I have the first pick right yeah I don’t I don’t still how did that random draft order get decided I hate having the 12th pick and I feel like it was rigged honestly I’ll give you the first pick okay done Jamie make the change make the change please uh no not to not all I’ll give you one you give me 12 and I also I get your I’m I get I get 13 and um can’t we can’t make we can’t make trades you can make trades for players but the way the magazine has to be laid out mag with draft has be laid out in the magazine you can’t be doing this stop complicating things Adam all right all right all right tra dra yeah trade the draft spot I’ll give you the first pick I will make your picks in round three and five and then I get your three and five or no no no you just get one you get mcaffry no no no Terri terrible get out of here last night Dan had the first pick he ended up going mcaffrey cup Kelce Keenan Allen and Maris Brown I think were his first five picks no that wasn’t true and that was a long time ago and then still don’t believe that happened which I don’t know what you’re looking at that is 100% true that is exactly what now there was there was a couple picks in between that you’re missing but don’t worry about it a long time ago things have changed I think those were your first five picked they were they were absolutely it was like old decrepit we had like no ADP on the site at the time and I was just like we have a lot of ADP now kicking from the hip it was one of those days I had something else going on I was picking from the head an excuse no we’ll talk to you later play The Dance Story we I gotta get the actual clip we’ll tell it another time all right see you later everybody have a good one have a good one