Mastering Pinehurst No. 2: Sir Nick Faldo’s US Open Secrets | PG Podcast #10

With iconic moments such as Payne Stewart’s win in 1999, Michael Campbell’s victory over Tiger Woods in 2005, and Martin Kaymer’s dominant performance in 2014….the US Open has become known as one of the most highly anticipated and disruptive events of the PGA Tour calendar. 

So we sat down with 6-time major champion & 28-year CBS commentator Sir Nick Faldo, Eric Cogorno and Donnie from Performance Golf to discuss the rich history of Pinehurst No. 2. From demanding chipping conditions and lightning-fast greens, Sir Nick shares his insights on course setup and shares what it will take to conquer the beautiful yet challenging course. 

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[Music] hey guys Eric and Donnie here with performance golf joined with Sir Nick falo Sir Nick uh thank you for being here with us we’ve got the US Open coming up here at Pinehurst um this upcoming week and would love to talk a little bit about pineh Hurst your history with the US opens um I think some fascinating some fascinating things that I watched recently and rewatched of some of your your your Us open history I think let’s start with that first and then we’ll kind of dig into Pinehurst if that’s okay yeah and I want to know what type of player does it take what do they get have to do to win on that golf course that’s what I want to know yeah it’s a fun it’s a fun Golf Course for us to to watch it’s a great it’s a great golf course it really demanding it’s the scariest chipping of any because they’re all sourcers wasn’t that there there’s 17 of them go that way isn’t it and the 17th greens I think there’s two I know the 17th green goes that way there’s two sorry yeah there’s two sources and there’s upturn sources or trash cans going the other way and they are brute they are the scariest the only time you ever chip and think I can miss the green you know how do I keep it on the green I only you’re doing it literally every time and if you miss the green it doesn’t just roll off one yard it goes way down you can miss the green by 30 yards you’re on the side of a green get your chipping R scariest chipping probably in the world wow it could be a disaster well hell with it let’s start with the golf course yeah pineur let’s go that’s a great warm up um Pinehurst number two obviously Sir Nick there couple of um highlights that would come up for people 1999 Payne Stewart Phil Mickelson obviously um legendary event 05 Michael Campbell beats tiger and then in 2014 Martin kimer by eight shots all at Piner number two you mentioned the chipping thing there sir Nick but just some things for people to look at and some things about the golf course that that you remember um for Pinehurst number two they’re going to give the players some challenges this week things for us to look out for well it’s a beautiful it’s a beautiful golf because you know it’s it’s through um you know the Pine Forest so you’re on sand belt uh it’s the closest thing probably to you know the the true sand belt down in Melbourne Australia you know when they get it firm and fast with all those undulations as I said the golf ball can go off a Wandering you can hit a nice t- shot and it you can roll off into a little blowout you know down the side of the fairways Got to Get Lucky with your lie there you can either be sitting up perly or you’re in a old heel print or you’re up against one of those little wind bushes sort of things um and then feeding into those greens you know there so much going on in the front there’s little NS and lumps and bumps and obviously whole locations are close to those and and there’s all sorts of falce not even just falce edges falce half of blooming green you can knock it up you think it’s good I think it’s like that fifth hole did anybody hit the fifth all week as like 12 guys kept their ball on that hole for the whole week so you and we were hitting five IR into it back in those days so you know it’s there’s all of that really stressful so I like a guy who hits a nice low runny t- shot just keep it get it on the ground and Scoot it down there and then you’ve got to be very smart in where you land your second shots can’t always go straight at the flag it’s where it’s my fattest chunk of the green to land it and stop it very sensible and then you know then around the green very interesting decision you that Martin kimer made like UNP putting everything not such a bad thing I think it’s as I described so scary if you m hit a chip shot because the greens are super fast as well they’ve got a ton of undulation they had and all these greens have a lot of roller as I said they’re 16 of them go that way so anytime you go a little long 68 feet past the flag whoosh it’s off gone off the green and then it will and then it will continue then of course then you got to come back and do the whole bloing thing again so I found those really stressful and so you maybe find one club and that putter would be I think there’ be a lot of guys taking that strategy and just cuz you can practice till the cows come home everywhere keep throwing balls off the green and get some kind of touch so at least you feel like you can get good weight you know cuz nothing worse than Mish hitting something and it’s coming back down the hill so I think that’s a that’s a great strategy and um it’s um quite a pressure pack Golf Course cuz you know one false little slip and you can end up in a rotten lie and a couple of in the dust um very easy to take it and roll off the green as well very easy to take a quick six or seven at the wrong time on that course it’s Donald Ross right iners yeah yeah yeah and then with with the way the green structures are like that are you able with into the holes to land it short and hop up if the conditions yeah but but there there was so much going on I like you know the second hole there’s a angle green but it’s a big Mound right front middle of the green there’s the green sort of like yeah it’s like there and they put the flag right behind it so if you land anywhere near that thing it goes off in any direction so it’s not so straightforward Oh Land it 20 yard short and just feed it in it would not feed in because it’s so mounded you know you you’re trying to feed in and catch one of these edges well off it go so not giving you much yardage you know to work with with as little channels into the greens um that’s what makes it so tricky to obviously the you know now the guys of course are hitting it so much further I mean it’s you know we as I said we were trying to hit five irons into five and four Ires into these greens well sure very difficult now if they they’re pounding it down and they get some run and you’ll you know it becomes a less than nine iron game well then sure you there’s a greater chance can land it on your spot so not sure how they will how they will set it up but um that that Golf Course like a few like a few Lynx courses even under perfect weather um you know could stand the test of time could could still be really tough to play It’s funny because when I watch when I watch Pinehurst on TV I’m like oh it doesn’t look that hard off the T like you doesn’t look that hard on on TV I’ve never I’ve never played that does it set up visually where it doesn’t look you know it’s like deceiving yeah no you’re right it the fairways look a little generous but they’re so fast and running and they would and they would just feed off so not quite as easy you you turn her you turn a t-shot you think it’s all right if you turn a nice drawer on the wi you get one big hop your first hop might be 20 yards well that’s more than half of the Fairway when you and that’s when you run out and just running into the uh into the natural sand um you you’re running the risk of getting a getting a decent lie yeah that makes sense it’s also a side note I was in Pinehurst the first time I think a year or two ago I didn’t realize like while the golf courses are there there’s like nothing going on have you ever been there before no I haven’t been there so it’s like it’s like a very quiet small not what I had built up in my head kind of like a boring place to be honest with very cool golf oh yeah it’s just it’s just a hotel in eight golf courses yeah like literally oh that that sounds like a dream now boring it’s good for golf it’s good for golf you just go for golf you just go for go that’s it it’s golf golf golf and more golf simple as that yeah if I was like looking for some nightlife or something but in terms of some of the the big things that I would think of with think Pinehurst any anything that comes to mind or memories Sir Nick around uh and then I want to get into your so your us opens but 99 Payne Stewart and Phil mikkelson were you playing that year at Pinehurst yeah yeah yeah I was there um yeah that was pretty historic I mean you know unfortunately Dreadful what happened to pain so you know that was a iconic moment he had holding that part and the Starly hold it and everything um yeah that was a a true great battle between those two guys you know that was again it that end that yeara 90s that was back in the time of strategy golf you know Landing those as I saying remember painting a lot of mid irons into those grains and it’s you know it’s it’s quite a skill to keep churning those shots out time after time yeah gosh and for those that don’t know the the famous pose on the end right with painer with the arm out that’s the that’s the statue that’s that’s there I think let’s talk a little bit about your us opens um Sir Nick obviously you played in in a couple do you remember your first back to the first US Open you played in yeah I I played I played the 84 um Wing foot and I got in that because I was number one in Europe that’s the only way you you could well unless you’d come over a qualifier but that that was pretty rare in those sort of days but so you know to all these youngsters complaining that their world ranking doesn’t get them in the major odd luck no simple for here [Laughter] mate um yeah one number one in Europe to get in and I arrived there and I played the week before at Westchester and it was a freaking Heat Wave never forget cuz it was you know you know when you get that sty fling suppressive heat up there in New York Region oh my God that was hard work you know days are 90 degrees really heavy air so you know okay when youve used to it but when you’ve come over from Europe that we’re not used to that so anyway I play with Jack I play practice round with Jack and I tell you this this will knock your shocks off we went up the first and Jack gets out a little crumpled old scorecard of wing foot and first hole it said o tree left you know bunker right 145 or whatever it was and he had and his yardages were on a l a single little scorecard not like now when they’ve got a encyclopedia in their back pocket you know and I thought I think that was the start of of yardages how did you do your yardages on a golf course you know you we had to walk it you we didn’t realize and you did it old school and you went down and went went back a bunker in line with threee so she got your line and off your walks you had to be damn good at walking 100 yards I mean you needed you needed to nail it and then you wrote down whatever said your back of bunk you know 165 and that was it length of green and he wrote that a little bit more and you and you might have a line you might have to draw a line across say with it’s a teer at 16 you know what little arrow and back de for green 35 done that was your yardage book back in the day so you know but that was a tough goal cuz Wing foot oh my goodness that one when uh got it again that was the way that was set up that was a brute really was I mean if you missed the fairways there and um cig go of course obviously but by took about a mental beat you up on by the time you get get to the back nine if you were not playing well it just it just pummeled your shoulders into the ground and W wingf foot’s like famously supposed to be one of the most difficult layouts right of all the US opens yeah yeah 84 first year welcome welcome home well it is you know it’s it’s again it’s old school Old School Big Green greens have got humps in them there’s no very few whole locations when you I’ve still got old yardish books from you know I did what the US Open for TV couple of years back and when you you know you go out on the green and you see well where they get where they where’s the whole locations they got they’re steep old school um you know when you got 4% slope and when they’re running up 13 well that’s all unpin and then so from 84 Wingfoot the next US Open then we’re looking at what 1988 was it yeah probably yeah you’re right cuz I probably didn’t get I didn’t get any anything apart from the open uh because once when I went through my swing change you know I didn’t didn’t in 87 I didn’t even get an Augusta yeah I didn’t I didn’t even yes he’s right that’s when I turned my game around course it is that’s the whole story yeah probably 86 didn’t get in um 87 didn’t I wasn’t even in austa and obviously when the open that’s when I was gone through the swing change that all that sort thing yeah so I go to 8 we go to Brook line and I really enjoyed that and that go of course was such a great old classic and I was working it’s funny I was working on a move with David lebb just to get my right my whole swing was all around my right hip funny that it’s probably it’s probably where I damaged it million years ago started the D yeah I’m paying for the price for belting all those drives over 250 so or thrashing them yeah going for it so yeah that it was funny I used to stand out and just suck my right hip back get my get my swing moving I remember that and I honestly that’s I had a crazy stat which I thought was just a fantasy like I believe I only missed like four Fairways in the whole week in the 88 open you missed four Fairways the whole week something like I and it sounds ridiculous ludicrous but somebody blurted that out when we went back for Matt Fitz Prat I was doing TV somebody blurted out because it’s got stats and it’s very close to I’m not telling a lie I don’t show I don’t know the exact number but it was something as ridiculous as that I was just down the Fairway down the fa and you know it was it was a different ball game you know I just kind of and I remember I had a I had a ping putter cuz you know se’s winning everything with a blooming ping so I thought I better use myself for Ping Anza and this thing wasn’t it was like rock it wasn’t great and I parted terrible I couldn’t hold a thing I came down that last hole and we into the Sun and remember remember that drive I hit four iron into that green U not an eight iron out of the bunker four iron into that green I hit about 20t right of the flag even pin High amazing and God I had that part and I looked at it and I said to my caddy what do you think I said it looks really like right ede that’s all it looks like right ede and he said yeah maybe give it a ball more so I gave it a ball more guess where what it missed by Bloody halfa ball so s it so um and obviously then we went to the playoff with Curtis and and that was really weird that was bad you know that was like no atmosphere they were they were taking the bloody stands down while we were playing no wow you know yeah it was honest it was just like oh well two golfers with a few people with and to be honest I I couldn’t get in just obviously didn’t play great didn’t fa great what was the playoff format back then for 18 good old days earn your earn your pennies 18 the next day that’s okay yeah wow that’s so wild full 18 on the Monday so that was me that was that’s what they hated it was the loss of atmosphere and and so um I think I only had one shirt left a yellow shirt only one shirt left it was clean so I wore yellow which I deemed weak I didn’t yellow wasn’t my color unless Le it was cashmir LE was cashmir so um yeah it it it just didn’t feel comfortable didn’t so it wasn’t you know I guess you should turn the clock back and say kick yourself up the backside and say just in case you only get another don’t get another chance so yeah that was that was a little disappointing and I ran back flew back for actually won the French Open don’t know how I did that that’s on Monday must have flown out Monday night got B went to Paris won the French Open straight after that one for Fairways yeah freaking run away from that a couple of things I want to double down on there I watched the uh last round the final round last night and you you didn’t miss a fairway zero Miss fa is the final round I’m pretty sure I think you hit every single one oh way you go that’s I got four for the other three rounds so maybe I did did not miss a fair the final round and and on the atmosphere thing when I was watching Donna you should watch us guys listen should watch this back it’s so fun on 18 it looked like the atmosphere was so w and and this is for those listening this is at Brook Line massach This is in Boston this is where Fitzpatrick won right on coming up the 18th hole the CBD was going nuts I mean they were like I think they were in front of you guys walking up to the green yeah you’re right I think they came in you’re right there was like no ropes right there that Boston crowd is the best it was so when he when they were on the last hole there was an unbelievable amount of people just everybody that so to go from that the night before to what he’s saying the next day that’s going to be a crazy yeah crazy drop didn’t miss a fairway it was it was it was weird yeah and then even beyond their cernick to double down on that two I just got I got the cernick stats here next to me I love that we have the US Open second here’s the next couple major finishes you guys ready for this one so I’m sure I got this right 88 US Open here here’s the next couple major finishes third fifth first 18th 11th 99th 1st 3D 1 so we followed up pretty good after that tournament year and a half yeah it was a good it was a good percentage I mean I won five Majors out of 25 yeah yeah not bad so you know from 87 to 92 pretty Dar good pretty damn good that’s a hell of a percentage in Majors isn’t it GE so uh yeah so after 80 after that and obviously get to 1990 which was another one um with minina when you know I’d won the open I mean sorry won the Masters go in there and I for some reason can’t remember why I couldn’t hit a driver driving wasn’t great so good old days we went with a one everywhere and I I couldn’t care less the fact I was 40 yards or behind the other guys I I played it that way and you know and cut long story short came to the final I know I three puted I think I might even probably three puted 16 which was really bad timing and then I came to the last needed a birdie to tie and I had a I sure have one iron and a six iron into about 20 plus feet bling part hit the my part did a Windam Clark went in the hole and out I think so it was Halo in Mike Donald I think halil one with shooting a 73 or four and it’s like ouch if I would been in that I think I could have won that one so yeah that was a that yeah you were 7272 6869 that week yeah that was a shame that was another one that was really close I was Mr consistent that week so what else and then um then we went to 92 at Pebble um my goodness that was brutal because that was when the the USGA struggled to set up the golf course day one we come to the first you had 9 on the first over the back of the green seriously next day N9 on the front of green come back what Next Day N Night Over the green and they let the greens go they were like what’s your worst they were like a wheat biscuit they were just rough as a CRA oh graham cracker if you took your graham cracker and crunched it and burnt it out put it on the green that’s the PO imagine burning po anag grass mean you know what it goes like it goes all kind of rig and Ripley gee W they were brutal to putt and um that was the Tom Kite one so all I remember is you know Tom gu chip you know he chipped in on the the uh the seventh didn’t he for a two we were chipping I think we we were chipping a five or six iron on that day 110 yards yeah and I took a double so I remember when they oh Tom K made a two and I think so that was that was I was in it I was kind of close until that happened um so yeah that’s most of my that’s most of my right but I learned a lot that week the deal that was a really cool you know in paying forward for the we started working on different follow different hand actions you like this different hand actions through the ball and so we called one the so I was for Into The Wind we called it the bunt where I literally let my right wrist go you know and let it go through like that instead normally I would like go through hold off there but I would let it go and I get a little bit of a I could get a little bit of a stinger so with with anything so just if I needed one to just penetrate a little bit more I called this the bunt so you let the right wrist go and then finish kind of soft arms here and it had a little bit of Sting so that was the start of learning a couple of shots before we got to mfield in ’92 and I you know stepped it up a bit more on a few more shots that particular week so um you know you have to take you have to take your knowledge from your experiences don’t you that’s basically an adapt and as we always keep see say on TV maybe you’ll be a better golfer next week well uh another two months later I was a better golfer yeah was the weather a big factor that year at Pebble the scores look like they went they were high then they were super low then they were super high yeah it was windy as I said now seriously we we were chipping fives and six eyes down down the 7th so there was a lot of wind and I think guys might have even been hitting driver into 17 y day cuz it’s you know it’s went back to the Jacks one int straight back into the teeth um yeah it was tough I don’t remember any I don’t remember any fog we had fog when tiger won in 200 thousand had a lot of fog didn’t we but um yeah pretty windy firm greens windy that golf course changes so much over the day like those greens oh it’s crazy so you go out there and play every year yeah we play in that tailor made Pebble Beach tournament every year and it’s like play in the morning great afternoon you’re putting over like that PO the Mounds of poana oh yeah you can you can you can lock out are with the weather there obviously you’re right on the water so you going to get tide changes and you can get a nice easy run or it’s just brutal and yeah and po Anna by the end of the day when you’ve had 156 Footprints all over it it’s hard work I had my I had my moment this year we played with Christa Marco I made five birdies on the front nine five under on the front nine that was pretty pretty deep when the team needed it yeah we started on the back another guy who played good at Pebble I thought it was interesting to go from that from when 92 to two 2000 right where tiger maybe one of the best major performances of all time he wins by what 15 shots 12 under to three over that had to be fasinating as well C Nick you brought up before when you were playing 88 US Open about the um pull the right hit back and feel the hands around just out of curiosity for myself and the average golfer watching when you’re playing that week is that like a swing thought you’re using every shot all week every shot all week yeah yeah probably you probably you know I had one main theme especially with the longer clubs you I think that’s really what I thought about with the exactly that the the driver off the tea I think that seemed to be the key probably you know as I sit here now not too sure if I it was a major focus on the IR shorter irons but definitely on the long clubs get that right that seemed to be the key get that suck that right hit back as long as you keep your right knee in the right place that’s that was very key and then would you I this might see I’m curious about this would you feel that same thing and let’s say you had to like hit a draw cut high low you could’ feel that and and then still like hit a shot that was that was still the main I think I you I think that was just the main back swing thought to get things moving that was my key bit to get it started sucked the right hip kind of got things round I guess we were still working on obviously you know the rotation of the arms and then miss four Fairways all week yeah where are we at what we saying this is 89 this is 80 yeah 88 this is early this is early days this is early days of really a really learning how that’s probably that’s probably a little bit one-dimensional then I guess cuz I know in 89 I really stepped up this fade draw fade draw like I go on the Range and I honestly hit every ball back and forth yeah as trino said they never hit two balls the same I did that a little fade little little draw little fade and when you get really before that you were primarily a you were primarily a fade right primarily if you had to put a gun to my head but when you get when you’re doing it that much I got good enough to do it you know I’m doing this all the time fade dra you know I play great that year 89 it’s when I started playing re really good you know I finished I had about eight seconds that year in tournaments I couldn’t obviously 9 won the Masters I think I won the Volvo Masters the of the Season like book ends in between had sure a stupid number of seconds or something like that um but yeah that’s when I really like I’ve been describing to you guys when you when they tuck a b flag around the corner behind the bunkers in little corner of a green if you if you can tip it and get inside you know around the 15t circle cuz you’re good enough where the other guy fades it and the best he can do is 35 ft WS we know that the difference in stats in or percentage of making a putt from 15 ft to 30 feet is huge massive number isn’t it massive number one’s whole B and the other one’s half a chance less than half a chance so um that’s when I I really took my game up a notch or two in that particular year yeah and and in terms of the curves I’m curious to like let’s say for us Joe Schmo a lot of amateur golfers might hear that and you know kind of go out to the range and hit some different shots and stuff and I think for learning purposes that could be tremendous an amateur golfer do you think there’s some value in them learning to be one-dimensional we’re like hey I know the ball is going to curve just this way or or do you think even hey someone who’s yeah to curve all of them yeah I personally think people get too Stu say this is the way I play and that’s it they got their little whatever and I think we I believe that goers are smart enough just for a little bit of help you put a put a club down so you know where you’re going and then get your ball position right so you know where and just experiment with ball position that’s going to be a good you you’d know that good start you know if his Ball’s a little too far forward look What’s happen to my shoulder straight away where do you think it’s going to go it’s going left so it either goes left with a square or shut face or if I open the face oh it’s sliced okay let go back the other way the balls in before Center look look what’s happens to my shoulder straight away different Arc so I’m either Square Face coming into a oh I can hit a draw or I open the face and I block the darn thing or maybe that’s what you want to learn so I think people don’t understand enough about is simply as I explained that little bit of movement and what it does to the arc and how to learn from it you know know cuz if you as we know you move the ball back only you don’t have to move it back one ball it’s not this much just move it back one ball and that will make enough difference in our game through impact to make something different happen up there and I think that’s what a lot of golfers just get so stuck go I just do the same you know I’m happy with that and learning to experiment I think that’s when a good coach that’s when it’s worth it Go and spend a few bucks and you know get your your your pro to have a look at you stick you on film that’s a great thing even on your blooming phone now you can see you can start to see the difference you know and or even looking at your divot line as well it’s another important thing isn’t it how do you if there’s no no golf Bol then you say hit a divot to the right put put put something in front of you and hit a divot right of the bag and hit a divot left of what have you physically got to do that’s a great little learning curve as well because as we call it find a way you know if you’ve been doing this all your life well you got this feels very exaggerated well guess what go for it see what happens experiment I think that that’s the fun of being on the Range go and experiment love it you got to try some new things to learn some new things and you can go to Performance call . for that coaching if you guys do want to check some coaching out like that would be fine you or the app I mean you talk about being able to do it on your phone I mean you go to the performance golf app now you can film your swing and it’ll the the AI will tell you what you’re doing wrong and then give you the videos to help work on it is it not is a nice voice on your AI it it’s a we should get Sir Nick in there yeah we should yeah it’s not an AI Don’s donn’s dosit tones telling you what you’re doing wrong no it’s uh it’s not an AI voice either it’s actually it’s it’s a program we’ve programmed the AI with 3D motion sensor cap capture cameras to film the swing identify like 17 data points in your swing and then it gives you the top four priorities so like if your grip is messed up obviously your grip is going to be number one you click on that section and then it’ll take you in to videos that’ll explain what’s wrong and then give you a couple drills to work on the grip so it’s we’re getting good feedback on the app people like it yes Co if you guys want to check that out we’ll link that down below um anything else guys in terms of US Open Pinehurst number two I think like all the major championships we going to be pumped to uh sit back and watch these guys Nick what’s one I think I asked you this another episode and we got some great comments out what’s one juicy US Open story that that you might not have told before that that we would we would I I like the juicy Stories the behind the scenes certain neck what you don’t need any warning you you you remember these things I I I I’ve got to think I’m I’m just in 84 how did we swing the US the practice round with with Jack Nicholas how did the practice rounds work do they do they set you up was he are you atically him or oh I play at 84 I no I was brave enough to ask Jack In 1980 at mirfield yeah he he’s just won the open he’s walking towards me and I went you got to do it you got to so said any chance we could play a practice and Jack was always great said yeah sure and I’m like oh great so it I saw a photograph some great the great thing about social media now is I so I saw a photograph it last week and we were on the Range and say I played with I played with um Andy North versus Jack and Tom Watson how about that at mirfield so that was ridiculous so the funniest part of that nothing to do with the goal was it was slow of course it’s slow and so after four or five hes we see an ice cream van so Andy North goes who wants an ice cream I so you have an ice cream so four ice creams you see it then few holes later see another ice cream then so I say who wants an ice cream yeah have ice cream so we’ll have another ice cream another few hoes later Jack season ice cream who wants have ice cream we all had another ice cream and then we all went whatson your turn to buy and he saids don’t want one now we were we had three ice creams on the way around Mr whipp is you know with a probably with 99 with a flake in it so um and and here’s you like this but I beat Jack and I actually played with him in the first two rounds then at the open and I beat him for 20 quid he walked on the first te and gave me 20 quid and idiot I should have said can you mind signing that and I’ll keep that for life and didn’t and the funny bit was um Watson beat Andy North out of 40 quid and Andy went down the bank and got 40 British pounds in one p pieces one piece so he had he weighed whatever1 of coin of coins and stuck it in his lock it’s said 40 quid of one p pieces in his locker so that was quite a finally so that was so anyway that’s I digress so I must have plucked up courage to say I guess just saw him I’m no idea and and off we went and played so how cool is that to play with Jack in the practice and I love that cuz boy you learn I wish you could I mean I I would uh I wish if I had known better if you just walk behind walk behind Jack and Arnold just for couple of weeks and just observe boy you would have learned a lot in that era wouldn’t you that would have been a good lesson for a young lad just to suck it all in take it all in everything that’s going on on and off the go on and off the goal course it would have been a would have been a great lesson we were at a dinner at uh at Jack’s house and and in down here in South Florida a few weeks ago sitting in his office just looking at these trophies and listening to him talk like I just I don’t know if I said more than like five words the whole evening just listening sharp as aack remembers like Sir Nick recalls the stories oh I know he goes back even more doesn’t he oh well yeah he remembers the he remembers the story oh he remembers him yeah it’s funny yeah I interviewed Jack a couple of Christmas ago two Christmases ago whatever and my only question was cuz I was timing of our our our meeting I said have you ever been late on the tea and he goes 1953 I would you know I’m like what you know nearly late so uh yeah I guess we some stories stick or we get we you you know you guys nudg them you asked me to we but you know you can see what happens you’re talking about something and a little light bulb goes up I remember that and you and we add a bit more yeah that’s that’s the best we love those Sir Nick comment Down Below guys as you’re watching this if you like the C Nick storytellers maybe maybe we’ll do some episodes of just kind of more like that versus the the tournament but leave comments Down Below guys let us know things about this yeah topics things like this you like more of the C Nick Storyteller I could sit here and listen to them all day long so maybe we do more yeah storytel pods guys I think that’s good for US Open we’re going to be pumped to watch hopefully you guys listen um enjoy the US Open Sir Nick we appreciate your time we look forward to uh talking to you again soon Donnie appreciate it and uh you guys listening thank you guys for watching we’ll see you next time