Stroud would take Eli Manning’s career over Aaron Rodgers’, Caitlin Clark controversy | THE HERD

Speak co-host James Jones joins The Herd to discuss cheap shots against Caitlin Clark in the WNBA. Plus, Colin and James weigh in on CJ Stroud saying he’d take Eli Manning’s career over Aaron Rodgers’ career.

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Stroud said he’d take Eli Manning’s career over Aaron Rodgers’, James Jones weighs in | THE HERD

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James Jones Is All Fired Up nine years eight with the Packers I’ll get to that in a second so you have been a WNBA Watcher for years you are so you’re not somebody like me who just swoops in yeah to suddenly talk about it you’ve been watching it for years and um you were telling me during the break that the WNBA comparatively is a more physical brand of basketball it’s not close than the NBA now know that a bigger man yeah yeah but you’re saying the WNBA and you’ve watched it for years is more physical than the NBA stylistically without a doubt and that’s how the women been playing for years like the men they the game grows faster with them right they’re able to adapt a whole lot faster the women they play a certain way that’s closer to the ground yes not a lot of vertical right they really physical that’s why for years it’s always been a big being drafted in the WNBA first overall and all that now you’re start yeah SI physicality now you’re starting to get a lot of these guards in the NBA but the WNBA does not change and they don’t care who you are if you watch the WNBA Asia Wilson has been getting beat up for years she’s the two-time MVP but the game is violent when you watch this game people want to say hey man you got to call this foul for Caitlin Clark or change this or change that the WNBA does not care as a star you have to adapt to the game well and what what you’re saying is the men’s game is a more vertical game no question so I can Elevate above you if we’re in the NBA I can Elevate above you to score no question it’s more grounded in the WNBA so physicality is is how you score yes like it’s a chippy League when you watch these guards guard each other not just Caitlyn Clark when you watch them guard each other it is hands on in the in the NBA is hands off but in in the WNBA it is hands on it is violent right it’s kind of like Michael Jordan’s eror Michael Jordan was getting beat down you know what he said I got to get in the wait room and that is what Caitlyn Clark is going to have to do the game is not going to change it is going to be physical you have to adapt to the physicality of the game now once your team gets better like a Paige comes to your team if you keep on losing and get the first overall pick you get Paige out of Yukon now you have another guard that can help you you’re not have a lot of attention that will help you but the physicality of the basketball game in the WNBA is old school football it is old school 90s basketball it is really physical and really violent and you can’t change it to be honest with you to me that’s what makes the WNBA well what’s what’s happened to the NBA not only the European uh effect uh in INF Fusion but um when they took away the hand check you the the NBA guards are so Twitchy and quick nobody can stay in front of Steph and johnar you can’t stay in front of anybody so that makes the league less physical in fact the NBA concerned about that has tried to tweak it to make it engineer it to be more physical because nobody can stop anybody exactly that’s why you scoring 130 points a game because now bigs in the NBA can shoot threes bigs have to go outside the Lane’s wide open you can’t hand check a guard so the NBA has gotten so athletic so Twitchy so skilled they’re trying to engineer more physicality you’re saying the WNBA is just a physical brand of basetball it’s been physical since it started that that is the women’s game that is the college women’s game it is just a really physical game you have to adapt to the physicality of the game and I believe Caitlyn Clark will now the after the whistle stuff we all know I mean we can all agree on that you cannot do that yeah that’s a flagrant you cannot do that in any League you can’t do that in football basketball but you can’t do that in in any league so that’s out but here’s what you’re saying basically is that people and I’m guilty of this have said Caitlyn is Steph MH but what she really is a more grounded version is Luca yeah and what Luca’s been able to do is use his body because he’s not jumping over people so she’s actually got a little more Luca a little more Steph playing at his Pace you know Steph is a little bit quicker better ball handler and all that than than Luca and Caitlyn you know but Caitlyn plays at her own pace now you have to adapt to the physicality of the game can I shoot this basketball if somebody is pushing on me if somebody leaning on me can I create separation you know what I’m saying with my strength and all that instead of just running off screens and doing that we see Steph a lot as he’s grown in his game he doesn’t necessarily have to come off the screen St can have the ball at the top of the key and use his body to get his shot up because he has gotten a whole lot stronger Caitlin Clark needs to get a whole lot stronger which she will because even through these first 10 games that she has played you see the difference you see her adapting to the physicality of the game but when I hear people say man you got to do this and change these rules and do all that no you don’t right every player in the WNBA that has come before Caitlyn Clark has adapted to the physicality of the game is she getting more attention than a lot of these girls that came in absolutely we would be crazy not to say so you got a rookie getting picked up from half from Full Court you got when she crosses half court her Defender don’t even look at nobody else I’m not help defensing on nobody Caitlyn Clark will not get a shot off that’s how they are playing are totally different than they played any other rookie she’ll adapt but she will adapt but the physicality of the game cannot change you can’t start bending the rules so CJ stoud like me is a man who enjoys a good cold beer in a trophy and he says I’ll take Eli’s career Two trophies beat Tom over aand what was your initial reaction to that I respect CJ I do and CJ is a heck of a player in our league he is going to be a special player in our league what’s the big butt but with all due respect to Eli Manny because I believe Eli Manny was a good quarterback in our league you cannot mention Aaron Rogers name in the same sentence you mentioned Eli Manning’s name they are not even close as players you are talking about a five time all proo to zero for Eli you were talking about a Super Bowl champion in Aaron Rogers a four-time MVP look at this graphic now I know CJ is talking and he’s on the podcast but I’m sure if CJ seen this graphic he would change his answer because this is absolutely crazy we have a guy that is going to walk into the Hall of Fame and arguably a guy that has two Super Bowl rings that people go like this should he get in when we talk about a career you’re talking about a Super Bowl champion a four-time MVP and we can recognize and see the numbers that is on this screen so basically what CJ strad is telling me is give me Trent dford over Dan Marino because he got one more Super Bowl ring and or or or give me Joe flacko over a Dan Marino because he has a Super Bowl we’re talking crazy like if we’re truly watching the NFL game and I know CJ is a student of the NFL game that is why he is so good yeah with all due respect to My Guy Eli Manny we cannot even say the name Aaron Rogers in that same and the truth is is that Super Bowls are um situational uh Eli had four Elite defensive linemen come on because Aaron Rogers had a top 10 defense how many times Colin once and how many Super Bowls he got one one yeah so Eli was to a large degree and I say this as somebody who loves Eli um that defensive front was really man they held they held that team to 17 points that the Randy Moss team the Randy Moss dropping 50 come on man come on on NFL teams I love Eli this is crazy yeah I want to know your take though what what is what is your take on this it’s I always do this with a smile on my face because I really love Eli he made arguably the two greatest throws in Super Bowl history I I can agree on that I mean the Mario Manningham throw if you go back literally it’s this is what’s open a dime of a f ball into it’s insane it’s literally a football size ball in it and David Tyree sticks to his helmet but I do believe that we get too immersed in championships and they’re situational I mean Dirk n nitzki wins a championship I’m not even sure that’s his best team Miami was not fully formed LeBron’s a villain he gets tight in game three JJ Berea is is playing over his skis so championships are situation no doubt and and it’s and it’s funny because a lot of people don’t know that when I got released by the Raiders I signed with the Giants and I played with Eli Manny and obviously I played eight years with Aaron roders but well I thought you signed with the Raiders I signed with the Raiders 2014 after that season I got released and I signed with the Giants and I went and I asked for my release because Jordy Nelson Has tour his ACL and I asked to go you know can you grant me my release I wasn’t gonna be a big time part of the Giants offense can you you send me back home you practice every day and as I’m at practice I’m I won’t say the young players names or the players that were there names but as I’m at practice I’m like he got to let that go he got to throw that he got to put that here and they like he ain’t 12 like you have you trying to have him do 12 things he’s not 12 but that’s from everybody else’s eyes my own two eyes being in that huddle with Eli Manny it’s not close that’s all I’m going to say it’s not close you could say more it is not it is not close Aaron Rogers and Eli Manning with all due respect should not even be in the same conversation with each other as of careers I think that’s fair gosh Le I love you CJ man that’s well these young guys they they’re they don’t know what they you put a mic in front of them they’re just not ready for the big answer maybe I mean in I understand I mean you hear two Super Bowl rings you know what I’m saying sounds you hear it it’s it sounds good I mean that is that is why we play the game as a team you know what I’m saying to win Super Bowls but you talking about four MVPs eight Super Bowls not like he hasn’t won any a Super Bowl champion five all Pros I mean I don’t even I mean Eli Manny has zero all Pros I don’t even know if he has I mean I know he don’t got an MVP but has he even been in the MVP voting did he get a top five any like the only reason why when I when I first heard this like Aaron Rogers some people as myself argue him to be one of the greatest ever with one Super Bowl ring with what we we never will talk about Eli like that yeah no no you know and I don’t want to dog my dog Eli cuz like I say I love Eli is more in the Philip Rivers category Philip was a little better regular season Eli better playoffs that’s fair win wise because that’s what I’m starting to recognize now even even being on speak and talking with my dog shady and talking with joy joy I’m starting to I’m starting to see that as a quarterback stat it is all about Super Bowls you kind of forget the talent you know just like some people are like if Patty wins another one I have him in front of Brady and a lot of people are like what are you talking about like Brady has seven of them been the 10 but you watching are you watching watching the talent that’s in this dude and you know so I think when we talk about the quarterback spot we lose the talent they got and go straight to the Rings we talk any other position it’s how great of a talent he was right em Miss Smith a lot of people don’t have labeled as the goat at running back you have Barry right right you know or or whoever you know what I mean because of the talent that He has you know so quarterback’s all about winning but this see Aaron thinks I’m anti- Aaron but you know how often and I let people come on this show and say nice things about him and I’m not anti sometimes he’s a little prickly for my taste but you know what I’m a little prickly yeah behind the scenes I’m no day at the beach yeah Aaron a great dude man great teammate one of the best teammates I’ve been around but this right here that’s just too much that’s a bridge too far that’s just like like they text me last night and they say James can you come on the show with kin I said absolutely they sent me the topics this morning I said no I’m not coming I’m not I’m not answering this question no hi everybody it’s me Uncle Colin subscribe here to get the latest from the herd including exclusive behind the scenes videos and more wherever you may be however you may be watching thanks again for making us part of your day