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9:15 – Paper Round up
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51:15 – Hong Kong Jockey Club Lester Piggott Handicap
54:00 – Princess Elizabeth Stakes
57:00 – Diomed Stakes
1:00:00 – 3YO “Dash” Handicap
1:04:00 – Aston Martin “Dash” Handicap
1:08:00 – Long Shot Northern Dancer Handicap
1:11:30 – JRA Tokyo Trophy Handicap
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[Music] [Music] hey it’s Derby day Saturday morning that means it’s time for another morning post welcome along everyone what a day to be on planet Earth all things Epsom we will be looking at for you this morning for the next hour or so stick with me Dave Orton Stella panel coming your way sponsored by William Hill we’ll be opening up the trading floor and giving you all the Pearls of Wisdom we possibly can don’t forget this is your chance to have a shout out this morning all the markets are set we’ve slept on it we’ve seen the oats card yesterday we’ve got a big guest coming on have your shout out to do that thumbs up like And subscribe on YouTube it’s that simple get involved let us know you’re out there anything on Twitter X whatever you call it now hash thee morning post right let’s get straight into it shall we and welcome along who’s next to me now you look like a bit of a security guard this morning I feel like I’ve got an enoy with me he’s gr Rob you’re obviously going to the hope yeah I’m looking forward to it yeah I can’t wait for Darby I’ve been for years and years and years used to go every year so yeah great to be back I saw myself poking at the edge of the screen there look like I was going to to you into the the track today but you’re not going are you no no no you might need security I reckon if you’re going You’re your tipping record that’s for sure I’m looking at the the gentleman on the other sofa as well Johnny Den comes over from irand always a pleasure to have you in John what a day yeah absolutely yeah look the Derby special isn’t the English Derby in particular and uh even though it’s it doesn’t look the the greatest rates of all time you never know there could be a star in in in in amongst them to be fair who knows we need a star kills don’t we in coming out of this race yeah none in there yet are there let’s let’s see here try bounces back of course um yeah but having a go rers we looking like a security gu look look it’s star we’ve all made an effort I mean if you were going up if you were going up to web day it’ be the man of big will wouldn’t it dud how I like it we’re getting the bit of fire already you’re right I’d be good at that wouldn’t I all right you look like you’re going but you’re not and it’s your local patch it’s my it is my local patch yeah what’s the crack there oh um I’m here makes it a bit harder doesn’t it like you know I could have I could have gone up there but but no I’m just going to I’m going to sit her home the wife’s working I’m looking after the dog he’s 30 and I don’t wouldn’t want to leave him all day so so that’s it that’s my that’s my job I’ll be sitting in front of the Telly having a now did you walk in this morning this is important I walked in this morning yes it was windy it was cold ridiculously cold for this time of year uh there wasn’t a lot of dew around it’s going to be windy all day it’s got to dry out it would be virtually good by Derby by Derby start time yeah not exactly what we were expecting let’s go I tell you I literally played 12 hours of golf yesterday morning of course that can’t be more than two mile away from epom and there was standing water on every Green right how they miss Thursday’s downpours I just do not know because either side of it people were texting me saying this is Monsoon like stuff like you know what I mean I never got any and it and it has missed and it has made a big Ripple on it uh let’s open up the trading floor then let’s get up to the betting cave that is Johnny the judge from William Hill joins us again happy Saturday Derby Day to you Johnny morning Dave yeah looking forward to it all the highlights of the the flat flat calendar and a cracking eight race card to go at now let’s get this out the way it’s pretty tougher punters yesterday I think it was one winning fa wasn’t there which obviously means a lot when you’re looking at it you’ve had a decent day are you staring at one here I mean look you’ve got all sort you got two dashes to have a go out You’ got some impossible looking handicaps and we got a derby with a fav that you want to have a go at yeah I suspect the uh the day will all revolve around city of Troy and uh the Boost we’re going to try and get him beat get him beat out of the frame so we’re going to go six to four from 8 to 11 to finish first second or third so we think we can get him completely beat and totally out the frame oo yeah okay all right there it is though this is the Saturday boo if you’re new to the morning post William Hill give you a prize boo he’s usually a big player and the odds are boo that’s now live on the app or on the website just go along you’ll be able to find that was 8 to1 now out to 6 to4 we’ve got some specials as well Johnny aren’t we we won’t do them now but you’ve been looking at some interesting bets for people to have on the race itself Yeah just something a little bit different you know we do this sort of stuff for the Grand National so why not we can do it for the Derby you know what time will the race set off how long will it take to run the race full finish last so uh yeah if you head to the specials part of the site there’s some uh some interesting Market there that who cause a few talking points within the office love it all right well we’re going to save that for the race preview itself we’re going to be doing a run and Runner guide but I’m going to ask the panel so have a look at that guys you got time now to get out to the site go to the app whatever you’re doing get those specials up right let’s have a look at what you can get in your Racing Post this morning if you’re picking it up or if you’re going digital let’s have a look at that front page and whz through the paper look at that love it that’s Moody isn’t it quite right can we trust in Troy whoever done the front page give yourself a packet on the backat this Saturday Lee mzed page two senior writer at the post say nobody knows what city of Troy will do and that’s what makes this race so intriguing absolutely in you know imperative reading there who we got here is this Mel Rose oh yes it is it’s the betting editor it is easy to take comfort in the familiar but this year’s winner could come from an unusual Source read that but I can tell you that Roger till has got a bit to do with it uh Troy bids to consign flopping guine to the passes Richard bur absolutely marvelous bir telling us doubtless another strong opinion in the post for you there what else we got coming up ah Smart View one two three what’s the top one y city of Troy on top still at Keith Mo Keith M Rosen team their little baby there the smart viewers there city of Troy Los Angeles and of course the premium content we give you here Easy Money Tom tip yesterday’s winner aelia at 16 to one anti POS R Scotsman Dar Mar I think Scott a squeaker definitely having a sa in the finish in the derby and he’s already backed ancient wisdom and he poost all right 8 to one which is which is beating the price right let’s get our let’s get our guest on the line show it’s William Hill Ambassador nit luy occasionally dials into the show and look at him in his absolute spend and Bubba I remember one famous figure used to call you Lord snooty it’s manifested it is it is and I’m here on the hill as a man of the people every been walking past me to the fun fair with their coolers there’s nothing like Derby Day I love it it’s all all walks Alik here on the Downs there isn’t a more charismatic days racing anywhere absolutely love it I was enjoying listening to Johnny Denine calling it The English Derby and I was imagining Tony Coleman at home in a fit of the vapors hearing it being called the English Derby it is of course Derby Day Johnny Simpson there in his SAA H giving you the prices here am I hoping hoping for a lovely baly day on the downs and there’s still quite a chilly breeze it’s not warm yet hasn’t warmed up but as as Keels was saying it tries out so quickly place they open up the FR if you get a ground sap here it’s gonna feel like nothing much softer than good ground I’d say yeah okay Nick Lots was said about the ground yes it was tough pun I mentioned there’s a running lovely narrative Nick we had you camping didn’t we basic the horse trials last time we managed to get you out of there you’ve got Johnny in the sa as you quite rightly say here you are on the Downs right well you dressed for the occasion tell us about yesterday it proper windy wasn’t it Moody weather as gills has said punter’s found it quite tough as well but what did you make a dur world’s second Oak winner probably a little bit better than people thought the times come through very strong for iselia she’s not very big she’s quite Compact and short couple Philly but she was super handy to run round here I was really interested after the race when you know der was being asked about where she might run of heed up the Irish Oaks and you know reminded every just how many Classics he’s won in Britain and Ireland and you thought well should be a very short price for that but he clearly has his mind on something in the Autumn and I’d suggest is probably the ark if you’re a three-year-old Philly who’s won an Oaks in a good time the arc’s just the obvious Target isn’t it because you just get all those allowances the ownership obviously would Point her that way it’ll either be that or the Breeders Cup turp you would have thought um he likes nothing more than doing something like that so I think she might be a little bit better than people think she is uh and I suspect that Oaks form might work out okay it certainly isn’t held down by the third the third David mania’s horse has got some really good form with horse who’s one of the favorites for the French derby tomorrow so I wouldn’t be I wouldn’t be in a rush to say the Oaks was a was a terrible race coronation cup not sure about that I mean that was Ryan Moore out there walking the dog really wasn’t it and it was had a ring of inevitability about it but I thought the yol’s winner was decent yeah well that’s good and we need the Stars to come right let’s look no further Nick you’ve heard the Boost William Hill all out to get city of Troy Johnny Denine doubling down on it as well doubtless G Rod and kills might be doing the same I don’t know what to do with him Nick I really don’t what are you doing well you can see where Johnny Simpson’s coming from because it’s pretty hard to see this horse finishing second or third isn’t it that’s the that’s the truth of the matter you kind of know that it’s going to be all or bust with this horse I ended up a bit like a mug just siding in with him because I got so infused by what he did last year uh particularly after the superlative Stakes you sometimes you just feel your blood pressure going up and you feel a natural um toward horse that’s how I felt after the superlative that’s how I felt when I saw in break this maid at the C and and I’m thinking to myself now after one blowout and I know we’ve had all the surround sound over the last few weeks and sometimes it’s really hard to shut it out I’m trying to ignore all the Aiden stuff about the height and the this and the that and treating him like a God and why he didn’t run very well in the guine it’s just in my own mind thinking am I prepared to believe that I the horse I thought so highly of is a busted flush and am I basically prepared to bet two to seven that the horse has gone and has got nothing left to offer and I’m not quite sure I’m ready to take that that leap in my imagination so do I trust him not really but I think I’d rather I’d rather be with him than against him I wonder that’s a refreshing take Nick I wonder if that is a lot of the time you do shows with pundits you know it yourself and we’re all trying to look at the the mechanics and we’re all trying to be clever about it but I wonder if the public I mean there must be a reason why he’s still fa it’s not just Ryan Moore is it no and the thing is you you’ve got to look at the likeliest ones outside him you know though it is unromantic the likeliest ones outside him are a very well-bred horse with galphin who’s a gr One winner as a two-year-old and a couple of B Doyle second and third strings who’ve got the pedigree to do well in this race they’re probably the likeliest ones outside yet you walk around here and I’ve heard that many people trying to make cases for 33 40 50 606 even 100 to one shots saying I really fancy X to win the Derby X being a horse who either is one a m well that’s fair enough because they can improveed massively but but horses who maybe have run a half a dozen times who can barely scrape into a three figure racing how can you really fancy a horse like that to win a derby yeah however imaginative you want to be it’s the thing is one of the beauties of a race like this and again it’s the beauty of the Kentucky deby when I go over there and work there is that people are willing to have a wild swing but because the race has got such Prestige and standing they will they will play that world swing with Great Gusto and and and talk about horses in a way that they would never talk about them if you were looking at a 50s poke in a in a in a n to 65 at r yeah history will tell you to have a pop at a big price can you give us a one two three is that pushing it a bit too far no I can try I mean I’ve got city of try on top for all the reasons I said I think ancient wisdom’s just bound to run well you know he you know he’s going to stay you know he likes better given the ground I think he might might be a touch on the slow side in terms of tactical speed but I’m sure he’ll run well um of the of the wild ones I don’t hate voyages chance oh I I thought I know it’s a big ask we’ve seen Lamar and shamet do it just off the back of a maiden it was a long time ago I I watched that Newber Maiden again last night because one or two people were putting putting him in my direction and I sort of started to think he’s a horse who just seems to do everything very easily he’s just got a very easy rhythmic stride he’s BR to get every yard of the distance he’s by a Derby winner who’s been rather sadly unheralded at start I think unfairly now people are starting to cop onto the fact golden or’s quite a good stallion he’s out of a Galileo May I I I I think he could run well he’s just not very well drawn in 16 if the pace is really honest and he can get settled again I don’t think it’s wild to think that God’s window might run quite well they could have gone to France with him they’ve decided to come here he’s trained by a top outfit he’s a bit headstrong I and I more rain but I could see him getting a little bit of minor money um so yeah city of Troy ancient wisdom God’s window Voyage you allowed it we’ll give it to you absolutely you can you can play them in the multiples and there is the market on the screen right Nick before we let you go anything else on the card have you been putting things up on the site for Hills um I uh liked the Robert cal um supposed second string in the dash democracy dilemma um and I like horse in the um Prince Elizabeth Stakes I I like Brea today she’s not won since her debut I think this track might suit her ideally she’s quite keen’s the wrong word but she’s quite onward bound and she I think she has one quite High cruising speed and I think this is a track that might play to play to her strengths I quite like horses here sometimes that don’t like find masses off the bridal elsewhere but just the quite High Cruisers and and kind of um race quite hard on the bridal I think I think a a fast mile here that down this hill is exactly what she wants and and she’s kind of cycling towards a good run I thought that she was a bit unlucky not to win a good with the other day I’d be surprised if she doesn’t reverse the form with the Philly that finished in front of her uh and uh the yard is just starting to trickle into a little bit of form with two or three winners this week so it could be quite a good day for JN Quinn he’s got du for luck in the three-year-old Dash who is a bit of a hostage to Fortune as his name suggests and old Mr wagu in the last race he’s won before but I thought Bree was the most interesting of his potentially at the prices yeah I’m hoping one of them wins all to be revealed a little bit later on Nick great to join us go well today we’ll all be watching later on it looks like I’ve got a fan club brilliant we can only hope it’s the people setting up the big wheel all right magnificent Nick go well top man cheers Dave good stuff Nick luck then absolutely brilliant to have William an ambassador on with us shall we have a look at the Derby then ladies and gents is this what we’re going to do now I think we might be on time aren we the market is there City Troy Johnny 3 to one and you’re standing out with that I can’t see it anywhere else yeah we’ve got a really really competitive set of prices for the daby and we’re paying four places so uh really really good value for customers I’ll just give you a bit of a background on city of Troy so we we opened uh up 14 on the 1 of July last year that has been sort of oneway traffic the damage in that book was done uh you know last season it went then went back out to six to one after he got well stuffed in the uh 2000 guine but now at 3 to one we’re uh we’re happy to stand him uh little bits in pieces for ancient wisdom uh and the one at the price is Matt Duff there’s a lot been E Trade money there with the four places but uh from a trading point of view the two we’re going to keep on side are mdff and dancing Gemini oh okay for Roger Teel who was who ties in with Keith melrose’s preview of the race as well all right Johnny’s spoken from his SAA I like that it’s giv me a few thoughts there you’d have to come in in a tow John next time do you know what I mean yeah try to shift a few pounds start putting some water on the calls next onto something there all right who wants to start off right I think we need to talk about city of DET troit and his price and it has been kills isn’t it one whatever happens today one hell of a ride if you’ve been on anti post yeah absolutely and I think the you know the point being I don’t think anybody actually knows what his prize should be because he’s you know he blew out so badly now I know people said you know some people said he you know he he’s bed for he’s bed for a b and a half uh you know the SP stride patn guys say he he you know is the absolute perfect fit and he ran his race upside down and the guine by going too fast early but he actually went fast there and comfortably fast if you know what I mean he was quite Keen uh and he but he just backed out of it so early I mean I don’t care how fast he went for four F he the horse that’s Top Class should be able to run at least a little bit longer than that because he was beat at halfway you know and you know like he was quite Keen now the P the pace in the first half mile of the Derby will be I think last year was 8 and 1 half seconds slower than city of Troy went for the first four fings in the guine if he’s Keen then running uphill that’s an issue too he’s got stall one yeah uh the trainer still believes in him he’s the only horse in the race with anything like the form in the book to win a derby I thought you about to say he’s the only one that FES though no no no no no no he not far from the he is the only horse in the race with form anywhere near good enough to win the Derby what did you do about that run I mean we saw it before with August rhen but at least with August rhen we we managed to work out that he just threw the tailing that day cuz he’s done it twice since like you know and we don’t know why city of Troy ran like that we sat together on the guine Sunday after he’d run and we we were bit it was everyone was a bit Crest Fallen whether you were with him financially or not we were hoping to see the next poster boy at the game it was awful Johnny wasn’t it yeah like it was it was a really poor effort for a horse to was so short in in in such a big race I mean like you were gone as Paul said you were gone at halfway and that’s like a mystifying performance in relation to anything he had done previously what’s he’s going to do what he’s going to do here is anyone’s guess isn’t it like it is it is very hard to pin down exactly what he can do here would would he even get the trip properly who knows you know I mean um like I can see why Hills would want to lay him for street because as Nick Lo said just there he is a horse that’s difficult to see being second or third it looks like an all duck or no dinner kind of an animal doesn’t he really you know what I mean that’s that’s what he reads like to me anyway and um okay you can see him when they did it last year but have G to own but what has been a train in the last few years is that these big trainers not just a br lik Henderson can bring shishin back from the dead Mullins can bring the like a G Warrior back from the dead they did with faren so it and and and O’Brien did it last year with Augusta Rhoden so it they can do it they can do it so it it it’s very hard to say he’s no chance to be dogmatic this say he can’t win like realistically and and I think he won’t win I think he probably won’t even be placed but I won’t fall down if he wins either at the same he he is the best horse in the race on all known form from last season yeah but he he he has a lot of questions to answer now just as we were walking into the studio lift a little on that kills you said none of us would be surprised if he wins and Nick has obviously gone for what I think might be a popular opinion away from racing media and that sort of stuff going 3 to1 fa 6 to1 bar like you know it’s as simple as that loads of people who are prepared to forgive him otherwise otherwise he’s going to take a massive walk in the market isn’t he but it doesn’t look like he is he looks like he’s going to be pretty strong so yeah it’s not going to it’s not going to shock you but I mean you know I’m all for forgiving a horse a bad run but I like to forgive a horse for bad run when the bookmakers haven’t if you know what I mean when you know and the market sort of has now isn’t it you know what I mean so personally I’m a bit surprised he’s turning up here and I know that I thought after the guine we might be looking at Air Force blue it was that bad and you’re obviously not including him in your top three uh no I’m not but I’m you know it’s you know there I might be laying him for Place put it that way are I wouldn’t back against him for cuz a lot of layers do watch this show to try you know I can let him run I think that’s the important let him run John yeah I definitely wouldn’t dream of backing him anyway definitely not no and I do think that if you do want to oppose him I’d say that the place market is probably the best Avenue because he does really if ever horse looked like a a winner a winner be no Contender this is it well you’re getting six to four on the booth for the top three uh all right you’ve been sitting very patiently waiting for me to come to you on this hav he you’ve heard what we think I don’t know what to do with him so he’s not in my top three Nick clck and a lot of the public are backing him it’s Ryan Mo they’ll just look at the colors they’ll look at draw one which is something of a red herring because it is historically a bad draw if you’re not sure about that over the mile for at Epsom what’s gr Rob doing with this well it’s a weird one isn’t it because I don’t think he’d be favored if we’d had a really good trial winner and we did have one or two really good trial winners um economics wasn’t it what it’s called the the danty winner but he doesn’t run um so away from City of DET troit take him out the race I think we’d be saying it’s a pretty average Derby wouldn’t we and there is a potential star in there in city of Troy and when I was at New Market for the guine like it was absolutely banged out there with people thinking they were going to see the next Frankle Ryan Mo went out there and rode him like he was next for anle and the gasps that went up from the crowd when he started to just fall back through the field I think they just would expect he was going to turn up and win I couldn’t believe it when when he when he ran so poorly so I mean he could he’s the x- factor in the race he could absolutely blow the race apart couldn’t he but I mean for people like kills and I Johnny you know serious punters and and tipsters you can’t be back in ALU just ran so so poorly last time out when he’s favorite for a race like this is different if we were taking 12 or 14 to one is it but we ain’t we’re being asked to take three to one so top three I can’t have him in my top three none of us are in the top three what are you thinking out there this is time to polarize opinion if you’re not even having a bet on the race surely this is one of the moments of the last 10 years in all race is just to tune in and see what happens to a horse right 4:30 City Detroit none of us have got him in the top three it’s time for us to go down the field then I was just getting my my app up here and I’m going to try and do it by numbers so what’s number number one that’s to me I’ve got to go right down here hang on what is friendly on it should be ambiente friendly shouldn’t it of course I was thought it might be ancient wisdom and bente friend now we’ve got to come to your on this let’s do about 10 20 seconds on each horse kills if you don’t mind no I liked him I love the way he spun around lingfield that was very fast ground that day and he floated over it so it’s been worrying me in the last few days that that it was going to be too soft for him I don’t think it will be now I’m still baffled by the decision to replace a uh a jockey with a good record at Epson with a a jockey that’s 50 years old has been an understudy all his life one his first grade one the you know last year uh and has had one ride at epim Last 5 Years it does completely baffle me um maybe I’m overanalyzing it but well I spoke to James F on Thursday and uh I was asked to ask him the question and he shot me down very quickly he didn’t like it either I think that’s I think that’s the that is the general you know that’s how I felt sometimes you ask someone a question yeah it’s not the trainers it’s not the trainers no exactly I said how much did the trainer have to do in this decision nothing absolutely nothing and he sort of said it a bit sternly right yeah right so I got scolded a little bit back and I came back he just want a grp one you know so anyway so look Rab’s on whatever you think of that you’ve got him on top I no I’ve swapped oh chaos I swapped yeah we’ll wait to see I’ve got him a second all right okay ground coming his favor though amb and day friendly uh I be worried about the ground FR it I would just I just think he’s a top a top of the ground hor and what I see yesterday it wasn’t top of the ground I know it’s not raining there today but it’s it’s still not overly drain it’s cool enough got a bit of water on there there I’d just be worried and do you know what I can’t remember no it has happened of course when they take off these jockeys and put other FL they never win do they really I don’t know why that is but but but they don’t win anyway it’s probably the gods good con say the rising gods are a thing aren’t they abely does seem to be the case I think he’s you’d respect each CH but I I don’t really him no yeah ambiente friendly I’ve got him on top actually I’m I’m going yeah I’m going to put him on top yeah I think he uh I was at lingfield that day and and there were three one M four in a row IR mer w w The Oaks trial and then the Derby trial I remember straight after the race anding the Derby trial was the worst of those three races just straight from ey thinking it you know the other two looked better races and then I went back and I saw the time and I watched them back side by side and ambian friendly fresh the other two races by a mile his time was absolutely exceptional but there’s just something rankling in the back of our mind that says you know can I always buy Glenn eagles with that pedigree quite a cheap purchase James fhaw rap havy meaning about I can’t see it he’s not the stallion no you know you get a gut feeling about something and I just can’t see that sort of was winning a derby but he was wildly impressive I also something in my mind saiding maybe he was a little bit flattered that day at lingfield he came up that stands side rail sometimes that can be favored can’t it at lingfield all right okay we’ve done about five minutes on it which means we all fancy him 20 20 seconds of horse yeah absolutely you you set the tempo there let’s get a bit quick I’ve got this are going to be 10 minutes as well ancient wisdom Johnny yeah I I like ancient wisdom I I do think that he has an excellent chance here he’s a good two-year-old he’s group one farm and I see even has line of f where he won where he was two to one and and the reason why I don’t consider ambian friendly ambian friendley is well held on that form from as a two he was 16 to1 you remember two to1 favorite yeah that’s a big gap in prices and ancient wisdom the word of him in York was he needed to run badly he ran accordingly like I agree with grim economics would be favoring this race if if if he did turn up having like a blemish free running from from York if he was guaranteed to get a trip and ancient wisdom guaranteed to improve at the distance guaranteed to come on for the run their horse ran well yesterday in the yks I think he’s a very very solid horse in this race I’d be Gob smack if he’s not in the fourth three anyway I’m going to Back Him Anyway strong opinion from Johnny denain ancient wisdom Paul K it’s just a horse that got thrashed last time out isn’t it like you know I mean that that that that worries me a little bit and spoke to Tom seagull last night and he said he you know he he he had a chat to K fell and he rides him out and he said this horse is nowhere near as good as Arabian Crown like you know who obviously won the sand down trial and and is missing through injury so um I don’t know I just wonder whether he’s going to be fast enough this year simple he holds quite a few horses on his verm doesn’t he do you like him that was a word that came to my mind when I saw him bit slow he stays well I just wonder if it was really soft or heavy ground I think he’d have a huge chance but I wonder on these quicker conditions if he might be found wanting for Pace I I was a bit more Pro having looked back at the dantey than a lot of people were at the time cuz I think he like every single horse seems to be needed this year he needed that run all right let’s move on bellam Justin winning your in of course in the blue Rond Ashi Murphy rid so people will be having a five R for that yeah I fancy him do you I’ve got him on top justtin yeah I thought he he’s got that Co experience he went round epon nicely traveled beautifully he won well obviously Defiance disappointed next time but can’t of been his true running at lingfield there’s something funny about that lingfield race the third Chief Little Rock came out and hacked up dney at the C form’s okay Andrew barding has had four R in the frame the last five years um and all at Big prices 150 to1 hu 50 to1 khif um so I think Bing’s going to have this one right and he’s he he was dead set after that race epom he was going to a trial he was going to and then suddenly he said oh no we’re going to go straight to the derby almost as like you know we’re going to really map him out for that he’s one of the youngest ERS in this field he may fall so he’s a slow burner and I can see him really coming on I think he run really well interesting to see the stars I felt sure that was going to be a 5sec do didn’t you no I can see I can definitely see I could definitely see him rning well yeah okay in the top three uh not quite but you know he’s there he’s up there one of the ones fancy to run well joh if you put a line to his chat no not completely no I I wouldn’t say I I don’t over think he’ll be placed but he’s he’s some sort of a chance he has course form so I wouldn’t I think he has a better chance than somebody the around him in the BET and then even below him in the beton to be honest all right okay number four is city of Troy we’ve pretty much done that what are you let’s hear from you out there let’s give you your Derby one two threes whatever you want to try and build up without them we are going to go through the rest of the Races by the way guys that brings us to Dallas star Adrian maru’s been making a name for himself with the ammo racing horses Johnny come to you on this none none none this is what I’m been in my top three if it was soft ground is that I think he absolutely needs it I think he stays forever I think that that was Apparent at leopardstown uh because it looked like they were going to run past him and he’s he’s gone away again um but I think he definitely needs it soft and as it ain’t going to be soft I can’t have him anymore Dallas star You’ been to Dallas I have few seen you Haven yeah got got a few friends in Dallas yeah but I don’t see Dallas star being competitive here day but this is interesting isn’t it because this goes back to what Nick lot was just saying to us he’s been hearing from I’ve been hearing it this week as well I really fancy a 40 to one shot or really fancy a 50 to 33 to one everyone seems to have an opinion on some of the outsiders in this race dancing Gemini comes up next uh Johnny the judge let’s come to you you’ve seen good money for this then have you yeah a little bit some pieces throughout the week I think this is the the horse who could take a massive step forward for the trip it was out of Camelot out in Australia may I just thought you know 14 16 to one I think this is the horse that could you know massively improve all right dancing Gemini anyone got any love for this Roger T coming out of uh store 15 yeah like Johnny said Derby winners both sides of pedigree but I don’t think he’ll stay he didn’t get home in the Futurity last year and he was very weak finisher then I know he’s strong enough to get a mile now but just something about him I don’t think will stay even though his pedigree says he’s pretty much nailed on to run a big race in France he did run a big race in France he’s a good horse yeah I have a feeling that he’s not going to get home Johnny give it no chance dening jimin I I do like his raced in France like that was a m it could have been anywhere couldn’t have it could have won it could have been seven it was half L next heads I just think that that Farm is I think he’s a very weak 10 to one chance now to be honest I I couldn’t see him being around anyway yeah a lot I think I think the price is interesting is it it means he has been well backed G I agree with the boys I mean he ran some really fast sectionals when he won at Newber last year and he looks like fast or Than Me Not So GNA win a derby yeah I liked him last year but I I struggled see him getting home as well okay de mile this is a chat that I like spoke to AR bar as well in the week he’s quietly confident about this and Tom seagull has put him up yes yeah talented Hound is where I I’d put him up that head up in the air all over the place I don’t know what he’s going to do coming down the hill that that would worry me I mean I definitely he’s definitely Got Talent they put the pieces on whether he wants to show it or is another matter all together do you remember when cheap pieces were just not a thing at group one level and then rud of the world came out and want to do but I always look to see what um records trainers have when they put first time headgear on and cheap pieces are the things I look for more than anything else now because you know this is just the in thing can you tell us about Bar’s record with them uh yeah I think it was one from 19 that’s not great uh so yeah not great I asked him about them and he said yeah I think he he said the were just to sort of help him I can this guy is in my top three John oh he’s not in mine either no no no I couldn’t have him no like winds I don’t know I couldn’t see it through be nownow no I can’t have him yeah apparently he ran really fast sectionals last time w at Windsor according to Tom but I can’t see it what have a match bet shall we over your bellam Justice and M I have it with the the owner mate oh oh you like all right we’ll get to him he’s number 14 we’ve got a few to get down the list yet number eight is euphoric a lot of people have been backing this Johnny did you see money for this in the week he was like half in price some silly prizes he of course uh de mcon supposed third string for Bal Doyle yeah I mean when it came apparent that you know certain horses were going to the French derby a little bit we did lay a little bit of 33 and 40 it wouldn’t be the you know it won’t be the first uh O’Brien second or third string to outr run his odds I think I think he’s got a chance of hitting the hitting the frame this he’s matched with Los Angeles kills isn’t he and maybe one for the four places perhaps we should be doing four with William of course yeah I mean quite often they ignore the Pacemakers don’t they and you know OD no B’s some very very very good pacemakers and if if that is indeed his job today like you know’ done it before so you would think it is and when you were talking about city of Troy in your in your preview about him I was thinking about euphoric about you know if he gets lit up surely that’s what he’s there to do John but I wonder is he is he a real piss I wouldn’t fancy him all know but like they’ll hardly want to turn it into a real stamina test for the favorite I’d imagine you surely must have Haring some sort of stamina issues for for City at trit so I don’t see him going off like 100 m hour making the running I just don’t think he’s anywhere near good enough anyway no matter what he does to be honest I like I’m surprised he’s such a big price because they’ve had horses run well in these races before and they only have three to say that he’s 33 I thought he would be less but I would have back him at any price yeah of course you think about some of the some of the second third strings of course wings of eagles was the big one Anon van dark as well G I’ll be shocked if he wins simple as that we can move on what about number nine Gods Windows St what you I don’t think he’s out of this I can’t have him at all can’t have him a talk no he ran all right didn’t he last year obviously likes him as well so he ran all right last year in NE F him fur was he third or fourth he won a nine to one on shot of Nottingham and he’s looked terrible in two starts he has looked terrible but the ground’s not really been right for him I think on those two starts he wants a bit of cut doesn’t he now maybe it will Quicken up um and he won’t get it but if it is on the soft side I don’t think he’s totally out of it there’ be some irony in this Johnny Denine if if Kieran schar was to have his big day for John C on an 80 to1 shot yeah I actually think he has the slightest of chances of placing of doing something something reasonable I do think he has a better chance than horses that are half his pric that’s all that’s interesting kills yeah he’s probably had better chance than some of those ahead of him a bet him but he’s still with no chance what about kamboo this is a nice ambitious bit of Blazing Richard uses his trainers love to have got a run into it but they’re aiming big yeah never run on Turf see and he’s got absolutely ridiculous amounts of find so a complete guess if you fancy him you don’t know how good he is because he’s hardly run much has he and you don’t know how good he is on Turf but I couldn’t have him drawn in three under Mr desert Crown Richard Kings goat I mean you wouldn’t back him at a million would you that’s a nice little it’s as simple as that it’s as simple as that it could be anything couldn’t he but I mean on on form there’s a few of them in there you think what on Earth are you doing it John I you couldn’t feny him no agree you probably can’t even remember the name joh can you but we can remember Los Angeles of course now this looks weak to me Johnny Simpson it was pressuring of course 48 hours ago when the draw came out a lot of people were saying me included at some point this might well be the favorite he’s unbeat he took the Darren down what do we like about him yeah he was there was a lot of money for him during the week when we’re expecting the ground to be a little bit softer but a little bit like the Oaks um you let the market now is settling and the money continuing to come in for City Troy we’ve actually just gone 11 to four from three during the show that you know we we’re really laying that of the three so we’ve gone 11 to four but uh yeah Los Angeles now 13 to2 and that is top there there’s not really a great deal of interest for him all right okay anyone got him in the this is the horse I absolutely dread winning Aiden O’Brien has had some really good Derby winners like you know Galileo Camelot Etc like you know and he’s had some really dull boring slow old boat who just won rubbish Derbies and if Los Angeles wins that’ll be it you think Los Angeles is about just dull it’ll be it’ll be the most boring result you could have for the Derby of Los Angeles wins I don’t necessar subscribe to that but he might but he’s unbeaten isn’t he’s won the right I know I just think I just think he’s a dull Workman like like you know what I mean there’s nothing flashy about him he gets the job done and you think oh God another one of them that’s that’s how I look at it but he might still win he’s a came he in my top three is he dread it but he’s coming third but I do dread it cuz I think he I think he’s a very very plausible winner I see what you’re saying I just think storywise it’ll just be boring as hell a lot of people on the name will be backing him alone Los Angeles John what we do with him yeah I don’t fancy myself I just think that he one made in temporary back end of the year he beat a hor Iden in the Stream and France was running over in shtin or some place like that in handicaps and he’s run against euphoric with five him up in the Heap that was about two L the four hor belong to Jin was R 89 looked like it could go by him at any stage up that straight I I think he’s he’s he’s he’s going to struggle here I do agree with po just think he’s slow and I I struggle like pH are saying ancient wisdom is St is slow I don’t think he be slow as Los Angeles at the same time already thinking about the C Ledger now aren’t we with horses like this G yeah kills in there the air don’t he he’s one of those bed oil clones I call him you know like Changing of the Guard and Serpentine and all those sort of slow staying won the race I know but it’s just it’s just boring to they’re all the same aren’t they they’re all slow Galloping tough genuine horses you can’t fult them but nothing flashy about them B Doyle clones that’s what he is B doy clone no chance yeah no wow because this would be polarizing opinion with a lot of people out there I imagine let’s move on to M Duff who’s now into 10 to one of course this is would be Arabian Crown John you’re nodding away yeah M do is heart side respect he’s like price to the ball now at the same time like he’s single figures he look short enough doesn’t he I I was giving him a chance yeah as some description definitely um a Arabian crown is definitely a good horse and and like M Duff didn’t want he’s former two-year-old is only okay though that’s all he look he has a chance but he’s pricing the button now he’s no value but he I couldn’t say he couldn’t be involved at the same time yeah he was my top one I mean he’s now like you know like Johnny said I mean he was a lot bigger price than that earlier in the week uh there’s been a bit of money for him I liked him I I have tipped him um his pH wasn’t brilliant last year but I mean he was B to be a three-year-old and when he returned at sand down he’s finished second to I think that was I think araban Crown was definitely goodin’s number one Darby for sure I definitely think he was uh and yes he’s been beating three length but at the time ra Becket was telling everybody that you know miles is a miles behind so I thought he’s run a cracker then and you know he’s backed up by the stats he had one Becky had one winner in March One winner in April suddenly he’s banged in 15 in May uh is in a lot better form this horse will come on a ton uh whether he turns out good enough or not um I think he’s I think he’s going to leave previous form behind and his actual best form takes city of Troy out the way it’s not a mile behind horses that still haven’t shown anywhere near enough to win a derby yeah all right okay West over Mark to yeah I like him yeah I’ve I’ve got him in in third you loved West over as well he I like West over I like desert CR like that year I thought they were good offers but Becket had a really good two-year-old year last year it was his best juvenile year that he’s ever had yeah so he had a big pull to choose from he’s gone for McDuff I mean like Hill said the horses were a little bit behind when he with second uh sand down that’s a race that West over won of course before coming on to win here um he looks like he’s going to take a huge step forward I think he’ll run well all right that is McDuff let’s go to Mr Hampstead who somehow has turned up with Dominic French Davis uh I thought this would be running in a handicap at I think I’m probably still right about that 150 to1 John no chance uh it’s impossible defens yeah it is really is ice saw something in the making but not for today we get beat 12 length and get put up to a 100 though couldn’t it like you know and ruin it chance I mean it’s not you know okay you know owner wants to Splash the money out and but I mean he’s basically just got no chances yeah yeah he’s no hoper and no hope all right we’re getting through them now STI sarti I to come to you because this I feel is in your top three yeah I’ve got him second behind um bellam J the other boarding horse Andrew bordon as I’ve already said has hit the frame uh we have two horses for this owner in the last uh five years H 150s Khalifa at 50s this one last time was beaten in the new market but that race was running a really good time and he was responsible for setting that pace I mean he he went off a good pace and and and was well held by cavars in second caviar rights obviously freshed in the Dy but can’t possibly have been his true running so um I can see him being nice and prominent and running well because see definitely see him being in the places didn’t who M ran in that race as well didn’t it did he think and he got sold at Ascot didn’t he and went to G and nothing really happened with him yeah John look at I supp he’s tot Tre with some semblance of chance I don’t overly fence him but like there will be probably a rag in place in this race at the very minimum something will be placed any that you wouldn’t expect 40 to one with hills then on that one uh let’s move on number 15 two more horses to talk about we are doing the rest of the Epsom race as well we Whittle through them just dip some of the guys on those table talk for ton Coba supplemented for the race I I really liked his win last time he looked proper material yeah got an rpr of 76 yeah and here he is in the derby I mean you know we probably get a handicap rating of 80 and he’s in the Der I mean um I know these rich owners and all that was it 75 bags or run this the horsey beat was turned over yesterday at at CH yeah I mean there you go I mean it’s just I think he’s going to be a fun runner though and I think he might be a nice SSE of the future uh right the last one is Voyage uh I don’t know why I want to come to you on this kills for some reason I associate you I don’t know why you do either um this is I mean there’s a step up in class and then there’s this yeah yeah but I mean you know he’s he’s one decent maiden and you know Richard hanah’s really talking him up like you know so we know we’ve got a good horse like you know what I mean and at least he’s shown you know he’s put it this way he’s shown an awful lot more than table talk and and kamboo on the figures like you know what I mean and he and he could be anything we I associate Rich H with Milos of course um he has the other place in the Der but but um yeah I mean end of the day I just don’t know um no you cannot really f on the form of the maiden um but the the noises they’re making and they they they are expecting a big run yeah John anything about this look the fact that it was 28 to1 first time out in new the maiden they couldn’t expect him to be it was it obviously wasn’t pulling up trees it’s shter price in the derby in second one I think it’s a big deap of fa to be considering I would give it a prayer any when was the last time a horse won the Derby after just won I used I used I went through I went through a spell of I went through a spell of opposing hand and two-year-olds that went off un considered in their in their maidens cuz had it in my head that they were always well backed and it did prove quite costly for a while yeah some was very good ones have been fairly unconsidered first time yeah and Hannah Hannon he’s quite open isn’t he and and he’s not usually far off the mark he said for a long time that rosalion was a really good Al and he’s proven to be right and of course he did have Mojo star run second in this race after he was beaten in a maiden this is it the Mojo star’s the one Mojo star he was quite confident about Mojo star before that race in a similar vein to our with Voyage here so I mean I’ve not backed him I not got him in the free but I could see it all right that is the horse by hor guy done all right um I think we’re going to get one two three fours one two threes of everyone kills just REM you off top three uh yeah McDuff ambient friendly and Los Angeles Johnny I’ll go ancient wisdom um MC do maybe Bellum Justin all right I have got ambiente friendly what would I have second I had ancient wisdom I think has to be in the three and I have gone for M as well in my top three I’m on Bell and Justin sayy sedari and McDuff really well said that was very difficult Johnny Simpson your top three please we’ll be going with h Matt Duff dancing Gemini and then Los Angeles it reminds me of Jack Hobs a little bit I think he’ll be third all right just before we move on we’re going to just draw breath in a sec as well let’s have a look at those specials coming up see if any of the panel really fancy one of these let’s see if we can get the specials up producers I’m testing them now but Johnny Simpson on the has put up some specials for you guys and here they are as if by Magic right who will be the starting price favorite what will city of Troy starting price be that’s interesting of course he’ll sticking out don’t forget guys at 3 to one and theyve boosted him as well one two three to finish in that any of those positions is now 6 to4 from 8 to 11 the off time the Epsom Derby official winning time which will be the last s to finish uh ad no’ Brien top Train Runner UK Top Train Runner long shop Derby all right uh what’s the Long Shop Derby Johnny Simpson that just all the outsiders at the time of pricing all the horses who were above 20 to one just you know if you fancy an outsider you sort of bet him without the front five or six anyone see any of those that they quite like who would be the fit horse to finish last kamboo table talk you know I’d like to say one of those probably table talk but you always find some it goes badly wrong with one of the fancy tailed off just eased off that’s problem yeah this is a this is a tricky one what will the off time be yeah yeah absolutely all right that’s a bit of fun anyway go to there and have have a go some speci I’m just I’m just going to get on to animal Rising 6 o00 please let kill streaking on the car there’s an image okay maybe he going after all all right okay let’s draw a breath and we’ll be looking at the big races coming up after this [Applause] [Applause] right then hold on to your hearts we’re going to go through the rest of the races today at Epsom the 125 is the Hong Kong jocky club named after the great man Lester piot handicap and there has been a right plunge here well-named Portsmouth he’s out of a dam called havent what are you doing with him in the market Johnny Simpson yeah it’s one way traffic for the front two in the market pouth 9 to four from 1130 persa is three from four the each way horse is whiskey Pete who is 14 into nine I say we’re playing four places here so uh strong race to kick off da day yeah whiskey P always seems to attract money for ra Becket could get off to a fly nice and succinct yeah I’ve back whiskey Pete um he pulled up then the on his return ran like an absolute [ __ ] you know he went off oh he went off in [ __ ] yeah but he went off in front like a nutcase but he’s related to a a couple of nut cases his half brother to um to that good old candleford and also ate Pur and they both had a habit of throwing in a Nutty run and then they had loads of Talent on their day um he was good when he won at York last year beat a subsequent winner called Buster move I think he comes back to that for we got a big chance anyone on the fav yeah back to him yesterday uh 13 you think it was um I was surprised he wasn’t sort of this price now to be honest he bolted up first time up at Epsom skip round there very easily from the front tried to make the M running very keen on heavy ground at Goodwood last time got beat at length by horse called Lavender Hill mob he was rated 76 finished fourth with a [ __ ] hat a couple of weeks later was now rated 96 so uh he’s gone up the win’s gone up 20 lound uh Portman’s gone up three uh I think he’s absolutely throw in uh um but you saw what happened when I back shortage with Y Lang y Lang in the oak so uh be warned you brought that up not me uh Johnny you can’t hide away from it no quite right strong strong opinions is what we want we’re about to get one yeah look I talked look at it yesterday we like fight to each two portsman pra I don’t FY that at all pra neither do I I don’t fcy that at all I could see Portman winning for definite and I think whiskey pet is a good chance if he if he settles properly my play will be laying p and let the rest of him run for me here yeah watch back that London gold cut one by a proper horse but I think that comment in running is a little bit deceiving I thought bubbl Wy would go well for William Buck King power and Tim e let’s go to the 2:00 it’s a princes lith States Johnny Simpson running line is this one you’re ducking no we’re uh we’re going to be taking this on at 7 to4 given now we’re how bad Emily upjn ran Yesterday can’t The Vibes for this horse can’t be can’t be that good I mean if you remember last year in the oak she got so worked up and was pulled out of the start so if she remembers that again won’t be won’t be a positive spoil um sheet Colin being I think he’s a crack in each way better here and she has um shorten in price uh from four from eight since the market went out but rone line will be we’ll be looking to take plenty out of that wow if you go in the paper J look at the excellent Kevin warning taks every single box that’ll probably be Kevin snap running line what are you like in this she should win running line but I couldn’t back her I mean she’s an absolute nut isn’t she last time out she traded at 1.01 she was clear to fals out then drifted right away to the left threw the race away and cber goes left she’s going to have to end up on that round I don’t know what’s going to happen I wouldn’t back against her because I think she’s got loads of talent they far better than this field but I couldn’t back her at Epsom I reminder that will that Nick like will Ambassador gave a good word for bre in this would you be opening the SAT if you were lay in this no no not necessarily I I think the race is probably between running line and Bree I fancy Bree strong each way I do think there’s no way it’ll be out of the three here I’m I’m not overly mad about CH Coline running line is is is probably the class arson race but it’s TR a mile and a half and 10 fo and now it’s back at a mile it’s kind of a different discipline and I could see Bree just coming into the r it’s not a winning machine or bre it hasn’t won since her debut and WBY but I do think she’s a very solid hway play play and she one of my better bets of the day any each I guarantee she won’t be play unplaced okay Bree then strong uh two big ticks for that kills uh sometimes you have good anti poost positions and sometimes you have bad ones I have a bad one because we go uh the weather was suggesting it was going to be very wet it was going to be soft EP have missed all the ground I thought they come over to the stand Side Run in line will blend up on the far side on her own uh and Sparks Fly loves the ground uh would win and I thought she’d be nearly fa and she’s you know three or four points longer than when I back she drifting isn’t she on Monday and understandable unfortunately because she never she doesn’t do any running on good ground but I thought her run at ha do last time was really good I know she was beating F but it was easily her best run at seven furong would surprise me if she runs well I’m hoping she squeezes the place it also wouldn’t surprise me if run in line one very easily uh because she’s coming back in trip they you know they were trying her at the Oaks last year but I know she wandered around last time at New Market but she’d won that a furong out by a country mile isn’t she like you know what I mean and now she’s going she’s she’s half a furong short wi trip yeah and she’s going uh and she’s running downhill so it wouldn’t surprise me if she’s too fast for him and she’s in front and she’s on the rail oh Sheen’s comments to us in the papers today we’re on the line she went off way too far that’s like a joy said a bit annoyed with her so watch out yeah she’s not straightforward is she no she didn’t go into the Stalls and the racing gods that you mentioned 12 months on it’s sods law if you opposer she’ll just go ha up but she’s had a fan club because she didn’t go into the Stalls weirdly but she’s let punt us down quite a bit is she yeah I and if she’s highly strong I mean Oak is nothing like Darby did it yeah all right so that’s a that’s relatively tricky puzzle but the Fab of polariz opinion do you like it out there let’s hear from you in the community let’s move on then there’s the damed coming out I abut love the diamed it looks like an absolute con for PS this year who’s five is it still and besto with you Johnny well we four to on the field this is like a a bags race this is you got to make a case for all eight of them um the money horse here is Royal Scotsman obviously Tom put it up yesterday but I think Regal reality the really uh really solid one here given the ownership this might be his this is his big day I completely agree with that before we go down the panel gee this is a nightmare for punter and besto fifth last time out Highland Avenue seventh and sixth Regal reality fourth and third R Scotsman ninth epit tectus fifth sha sixth R Dubai one of The Outsiders you know he at least one last time and silver sword like a Balor fourth yeah I thought this quite funny I was reading Tom seagull price was got him last night and it was such a Tom ISM you know like he said he finished off his Derby bit by saying I couldn’t it goes against all my punting principles to to to back all like city of Troy after such a disappointing run and then he tips Royal Scotsman yeah but city of tro is five I was just about to say I was just about to say he he does go on to say to to backa horse like City Troy as favorite you know so so I I get where he’s coming from but even so I mean Royal Scotsman has been beaten an absolute mile on what two or three or four of his last two few starts could a Leap of Faith with him isn’t it but the talent’s obviously there uh I mean they were talking about the talent they were absolutely convinced um connections the talent was still there going into the Locking and he just ran a ball drifted terribly entitled to need that it was a strange yeah but it was worse than needing it wasn’t it that’s that’s the problem but I mean you know they did think it was okay and it was a strange race that newbie race anyway yeah um Regal reality I think despite the fact that he’s nine is the most solid I think the one that’s potentially overprices epic tetus he was of course winner he’s one at Goodwood to uh as long as the ground isn’t too fast now if you throw out the three times his run at ASA he is’s actually very consistent um so I think it might just me that he’s not an as was so at those prices at those prices I would take a chance I I I looked at him that race and his Ascot record was roaring you’re right he’s he’s got some pretty good form isn’t he John this is a nightmare they’re putting a hood on M bestto as well where you play yeah look it’s it’s a tight one full of horses that heart of Maximum F in even though it’s a group three there’s a lot of dodgy horses they can all win can’t they they probably can a bag’s rice Johnny yeah that’s not a bad description of it to be fair and look Mesto has slightly less convictions in some of these and I’d give him a chance to maybe the fact that he was weak in the bet in his first very late he was really weak went to took took a big dive in out in the BET and then suggested to me that he wasn’t 100% And I just think that i’ give him the benefit of the doubted for to one I think he’s he’s more upside than a lot of these all right okay if you got a tip out of any of that preview well done good luck to you it’s a real head scratch of that and we’re going at a bit of pace this morning we won’t be going as fast as they’re doing and the two dashes of course we saw the race arrived at the meeting last year it’s the three-year-old dash at 310 I really like one here Johnny Simpson but who’s your fa at the minute yeah at the moment it’s Grand lad and we’re playing five places here we talked about red numbers before this one is a red number there’s been a lot of money for this horse here bits and pieces for due for look but you know playing five places giving punters a lot of value I think you might need it this will be you need a lot of look in running I go kills to to epom if I’ve ever been I go trying to get the winner of the dash it’s a magnificent race to try and watch okay I’m pretty sure that the last time I my horse is still running and there’s a sliding door of me looking out the back as they all pass I’ve never had much luck in it and you do need luck right you do I you do at times but sometimes the hores bolts out like does a Caspian Prince and bang he’s gone he’s won like you know it’s it’s as simple as that like there load I mean there’s loads of Po in this one I nearly did the dash double last year had the winner of this and and that’s Sil wilky and the last got beat a hairs bre more of him to come uh more of him to come but I have back two horses I think I’ve been running over the wrong trip Billy Webster and Mardi now Billy Webster is three from three over five drawn wide last two times over six didn’t quite finish that strongly at Chester but he one of hores he actually drops out the Stalls and then the next minute you know he’s traveling like mad like you know I mean he’s going really strongly and I think he’s going to love it here bit surprised with an inexperienced 5 pound Climer being slung on board I must admit but um he seems to have been riding quite well um judging on the finishing positions of horses relative to their Market position over the last couple of weeks I give him a try and the other one is one everyone was already calling names is Mardi oh yeah now Mardi now this is definitely a five Fong spin so can’t you know and he’s gone to Kevin philippart the far he’s won four times since last year he’s won over six and seven um in his career he’s finished second seven times out of nine yeah uh beaten less than been beaten a less or neck in five of them right but last time at askar he was destroying them at five furong and he went shock clear and he just emptied out now obviously that’s a that’s a stiff six and he clearly gets it reasonably well but you know he’s by Blue Point his dam is a half sister to a fast horse of Clive Cox is called Priceless he was an out and out 5 forter and I think he’s going to be completely different if being drawn that far out in the middle depends on the ground last two times uh the dash was run on Good to soft ground um there wasn’t a horse drawn load and 13 finishing the first four in either of them um but it’s getting dry and that that bias hasn’t been around as much over the last few years as before we’ve had two winners from one and a winner from two haven’t we in the last 10 years I never seem to know where they’re going to come from but I think Wing would be yeah I mean I just think he’s way way way ahead of his Mark Mardi if he is a 5 foot long horse yeah and the other possibility of course is that he is a Hound so so we’ll have to wait and see from one Hound to another I mean I was I was going to say to you I actually referenced you yesterday when I was on Skype and I said I know a judge I didn’t want to name you cuz you know I didn’t want all the bels coming on media but I said there is a there is a judge I know that loves a horse in maidens that’s got a lot of twos and threes next to their name and there’s a reason for that isn’t there because every dog has their day yeah yeah every dog and and often you find when they win one they didn’t go on and win like two or three it’s a strange sort of thing that happens but anyway the one that I’ve backed is enchanting who again he’s just Keen you know like the one thing that you would say about enchanting just Keen she was beaten behind Grand lad two Keen she was uh last time out yor too Keen I don’t think they have to worry about being Keen here cuz they going go absolutely Bonkers down that hill and I mean she just let her go and it might suit her Holly door yeah coming out of 15 John look if you forced me I go Jew for look it was it was it was unlucky in in Chester it’s it’s it’ll need look again here of course it will but I think it I think that this side is the side to be honest is it not normally I’m hoping so stand side St St side is normal so that’s high numbers yeah I mean that’s say in the dash in the last 10 years there have been two winners from store one one winner from store two and one from store five it is not as marked as it used to be years ago yeah okay I mean imagine naming a horse called dual luck before it’s even run and then getting something that’s always going to run out the back of horses that is that is seemingly what this guy’s done so far I loved his run at Chester last time I’ve got him on top as well under the Hitman heart right should we go to the actual Dash then this is where the three-year-old race has been born from they’ll all be trying to get into it next year of course these threey olds and who’s on top for you the well backed silky wilky yeah the two Midland Park coures are really solid in the market and you obviously can see they’ve got great chance on form the horse here has been a big move is dream composer he’s five from 16 I must admit I didn’t see him I didn’t see this one was the the horse for money but yeah dream compos were playing four places here he is the the big move of the day yeah he really did come back was it Goodwood last time I he’s a proper downhill Track horse but I think he does want a bit of cut as well doesn’t he and he he might find well he does he gets massively outpaced doesn’t he yeah and then he does but then he does charge I mean he’s a talented horse but yeah I I wouldn’t have seen that coming given that the ground is going to dry out but this is the classic thing with sprs isn’t it you get you get peed off with them you know and then you you jump off them and they find their form because they keep running that’s what happens and Jos classic case he’s a gamble Jo Le on very good five being claimed there uh John yeah look it’s is this a race you hate look Paul said he didn’t he did the dash double last year well he absolutely loves it he sees it like a fruit machine I’ll definitely be doing the dash double anyway and have a no bet I absolutely certainly if you picked me if I was Forest one I’d go looking for Linda all right okay we’ll save Mr dash for a second but what about you J yeah I think Holly D might do the dash double here we go looking for Linda um quickles yeah quickles was second last time behind uh Clarendon house at Yol I mean Clarendon house got an rpr 119 that day you know like the average rpr for group one ALS is 121 so you know Matt Gardner thinks this Claren announces a group one ALS and we will’ll def fight up weight but I think looking for Linda might make the most mat in looking for Linda yeah she’s you’ll be hoping you’ll be hoping there isn’t a b you probably have a GU from the previous race any you w’t does that happen Mr Dash does this happen did it happen last year did everyone then oh this is what it like like you get the Stewart’s cup you know the consolation everyone looks at it and goes it’s got to be there no I mean they all Tred to they all Tred it emigrate towards the stand side every every year and some of them end up down the middle but still win I mean that that’s what happens isn’t it kind of race where no matter where you there’s only 15 in this remember right this this is a race that didn’t fill and five of them are out in the handicap not as competitive as as it as it was go back 12 months I can still hear you screaming at the TV oh how I’ve how I’ve still got a TV you know what I mean but he’s 8 pound lower now silky uh he’s Ā£19 better off for for finishing ahead of claron house in this race incredibly well handicapped if he hasn’t just lost that yard of pace cuz he doesn’t you know that’s why they put the cheek pieces on because he seems to uh he seems to get a little bit out Pace now and he was he looked very fast when he won a muscle first time up last season and he absolutely hosed up and obviously he nearly won this of 107 he’s down to 99 now he’s very well handicapped he’s on the rail whether we can hold his position on it is another matter but I think he’s got to go very close yeah all right the market is suggesting that they put on the Jeep pieces and of course KY Berg is on a three-time at the the meeting already C have a double there yesterday and nothing he can’t do brilliant trainer isn’t he all right remember that we have done the the Derby if you’re just watching as you probably go on X now or whatever and type in the morning post and you’ll see what the lads have been doing the social team will been all over that a reminder that city of Troy is the Boost if it is first second or third in the derby was 8 to 11 on no more 6 to4 and that is live now on the site and the app as well at William Hill who’s getting involved with that place laying none of none of us have got him I don’t think in our top three Nichol however who joined us ear one number one I’m sure a lot of you will say that all right let’s move on it’ll be 5:15 until the next race is run at EP over the same course and distance and wide open but again if the racing gods are there a couple of these will surely fight out the Finish Johnny Simpson who’s been hot and who’s not yeah little competitive race here we’re playing four places and Ziggy I think’s got an outstanding form chance H Qatari on a fourth timer fairly weak but the horse here and there’s a fair tip going around people who would know Relentless Voyager five from eight that is really really strong at the moment for the Relentless dreamers and a partner uh okay all right and so that’s the gamble Andrew balding aen Murphy lot of people thinking asen’s gonna have a good day today kill Ziggy last time out bumped into one it’s fair to say in the met or whatever it is or the city in suburb yeah absolutely yeah and you can certainly see the form claims on that I have back two in a race one of them is Relentless Voyager um um just cuz I heard that it was well the world fantasy more than anything else but he was third in the derby it tell a Derby last year yeah had various issues which are now over and he was quite I catching on his return um the other one I thought just was overpriced was Luke Ander I know he’s seven but he’s been I think he’s been pretty much the form of his life in in Bahrain he was twice better at the weights and a of J first two times he ran over there um obviously he got beat by the next three times but let’s remember she’s baited 112 now after winning in this company Goodwood when she when he was fifth to her the fourth was King’s Conquest who just got beaten by Middle Earth he’s weighed 114 yeah uh like he was giving three pound and he was you know was a half a length behind like you know and lucander was held up in a steadily R race last year and thrashed everything that was held up with him in this but it couldn’t get anywhere near the front two they’re going to go faster in this race he’s a bigger field there there’s more Pace pressure um I just think he’s just going to run well um he’s obvious not going to be a progressive horse at the age of seven but I like horses that handle the track he clearly handled it well and I think he’ll R well again all right okay fine that’s kills John again a hard race um qari is improving he’s I know he’s claiming the ways now he’s gone up G up in fives and that but I think he’ll run well at the same time I think he give a good run for I’d expect him to be placed now he may not win but I think he’d be placed at the same time he produced one of the slowest sectionals at Windsor when winning I’ve ever I’ve ever I’ve ever done and he’s got confounded me by when he that would be his big typical Gary Moore Project G if not now is the one that I’ve back ra Becket um I like I said I was at lingfield uh that day of the trials day and I from from the way that I felt straight at after the races I felt the irer uh race and the Oaks trial looked better races than the the Derby trial to to the eye um and this if not now finished third in that race behind I Merck who is on the on the verge of being in group class and true legend who came on and was beating a short head next time at Goodwood the form was quite good and if you watch it back coming down linfield’s like tanham Corner isn’t it coming down tanham corner he didn’t really handle it great if not now and he ran right up the back of ier and then that put him right in the back foot then he stayed on to finish third well clear at the rest of the front three I think with that experience behind him having been round lingfield if he does get a clean run round tum corner I think he’ll show an improved effort and that might be good enough here yeah I agree watch that I this between Ziggy and and if not now as well all right that’s the penultimate race the last is a six F on Sprint I remember going to the track Johnny Simpson you used to have to want a low draw Dandy Nichols used to always line one up for it used to be a great betting race it looks like a hot Market to me again and we’ve got last year’s second and third re opposing Apollo one and Mr W you yeah I think we’ve got the the first yeah badre uh he’s a little bit bits in pieces at 11s but I mean the money is for Mr wagu it’s obviously uh teed up for this race again Apollo won got a significantly better draw than he did last year but yeah we’re playing four places uh not you fair spread of business at the moment I suspect um suspect there’ll be uh the getting out Stakes at some point uh in this race I forgot the pad was in the race because he’s done nothing has he this year looking he’s got first time Jep on often tends not to matter when they come back to the big race they won a year before doesn’t it but are you suggesting this is the play no no no no I’m a Mr raggy Man I mean he obviously has been proving for he won it off 94 two years ago he was third off 96 last year he’s got one of the weirdest records in a racing isn’t he he’s 15 from 34 in June or July and not from 51 at any other time of his life which is absolutely mad uh his second first time out this season his RP of 99 made it the 11th best run of his life out of 85 runs and that suggests he certainly hasn’t lost that much of his ability at the age of nine wasn’t quite as good at York last time but certainly didn’t run a bad race um yeah I think he’s been primed for he’s running off 90 this time he’s got to go close and he had a he had an outside draw when he won it I think so yeah just think he’s going to run well isn’t he yeah and another not to n laku fancies that as well in the last another race that you’ll be loving Johnny D no doubt yeah look it it it’s Lottery to me it’s it’s a difficult race L of these have that was like close the match from last year I think Apollo won Mr wo and badry were in the first three or four last year heads and things like that separating them it it all depends on a bit of look again here I was given that a chance russed goal but it’s a terrific draw it’s drawn out on the outside you couldn’t fancy that I don’t think from from that kind of like too much has to go right from that kind of draw if you force me I’d go with maybe badre only two pound higher than last year and sometimes the the gamy runs that they have in between don’t really matter at at times who’s who’s going to least the run gamest in the handicap Mark runs aren’t they yeah yeah yeah I thought Misty Gray had a good chance in really good form at the moment um and I think he’s got 22 3 321 came on good last time at Newcastle might be one of those that we were talking earlier about Dave a bunch of places and then suddenly gets a couple of wins on he’s drawn in one drawn in one David Omar has booked Ross a Ryan for the ride I thought it was quite High catching I think the is in the form of his life he’ll need to be obviously he’s gone up in the weights for his Newcastle win but I think he’s short to run well Mr all right amazingly we got through it Well Done ladies and gentlemen that is Epsom pretty much done some tomorrow three five at shant T I’ll be trying to tear you up for the French derby and uh a lot of people saying this is a better race let’s get the market on finally he’s made his way to favoritism Johnny Simpson it’s Fast Tracker of course is ability to do what Ace impact did basically last year and Breaking All the trends not having run as a juvenile progressing massively through the year won the same trial as Ace impact as well now been bought by wnan James do takes the ride he’s been over for a spin drawing in five what’s not to like yeah I mean this this fell looks an absolute monster doesn’t it he’s four to one he was 5 to one early in the week and his favorite will be Keen to with Keen to be with him we’re playing four places here there’s uh our friend Diego Velasquez if you remember from the first show we took him on then and we’ll be taking him on again I just don’t think he’s that good um I’ll be siding with something like look DEA the prices yeah he’s very well fancied as well he’s only had two runs but Ronan Toms is joing thinks it’s by far the best he’s ever ridden have you had a look at this I think it’s a really good race and it’s a very tough one to call because ghost riter obviously has probably got the best form I would say I mean that that Guin his form looks quite good doesn’t it hard him and inish Shan has come out and one and obviously rosalion was second he was in amongst them but you know will he stay I suppose at the question I think he will I think everything about him screams doesn’t train many winners over this distance admittedly he trains basically sprinters and I think he had two winners over in one in the quarter last year yeah uh I that’s my slight concern but I think he’s got the ability I don’t know much about the French horses but Johnny Pearson our French handicapp has given Fast Tracker 113 for his absolute demolition job over course last time you know if he’s right it win won’t it he he’s potentially a very very good or join to a little look again I I don’t know not about the French horses the two that that stick out to me are Ghost Rider and Diego Vasquez they I do think Ghost Rider is probably the best horse whether he get he’s probably get a chance of getting around Ben he probably stay 10 fors here from Soul to he’d have every chance yeah I think he’s the one goward yeah yeah Richard Kings go kills I’d forgive Sunway and give him one more chance at that price I think David is absolutely convinced he the best hor he’s ever trained he hasn’t yet shown it um but I’d give him one more chance seems mad that he’s not ahead of Alor in the race who he beat last year of course so’s got a chance as well it’s a really really good race it’s 305 we could be seeing a new arc favorite tomorrow good luck to Clive Cox and B dwn all the British Runners going over there as well all right okay Tom draw breath again we’ve got a little nice little feature coming for you after this stick with us before the Naps Oh I thought it was a mver it says on the running order there is I’ll point you towards the members Club in that case all right Ro Ascot is on the horizon and uh we’re going to have a little multiple go chaps are we we’ve been we’ve been taxing you for this well yeah I only found out on Thursday Ro ask multiple on you’ve been looking since December then I actually got quite into it I tend to do yeah yeah yeah it’s all out there isn’t it most of the markets are done Johnny Simpson we’ve got some lucky 15s coming up from the gents for everyone out there so get ready for this social team will be clipping up as well I think we’ve done this before John we forchel them and the likes let’s get them up and Johnny can talk us through them uh who’s going first producers I’m tempted to say it’ll be Paul Keeley oh thank you very much because you’ve been moaning about it all the last 48 hours apparently right if you are going to have if you are going to have a lucky 15 then you might as well have at prices I don’t believe in all these 64 shots and all stuff like that so let’s go for it right in a queen an which I I think there was a I think there was a middle middle track bias that day and which Hunter has come down the stand side and beaten all the others he’s beaten his b and he’s beaten big rock he’s been he’s been placing a Big Field handicap at ASA um sorry won a Big Field handicap at aset last year um they’ll go fast uh audience big rock Etc again it won’t suit The Front Runners anywhere near as much as newbie does uh and which is a massive price I’m going to miss out River for a minute CU I want to get onto him in a bit more detail but Sunny Lon absolutely hacked up at newbie the other day he in he’s in the H Cup second in the race last year thought 16 w a big price I was actually trying to talk Richard Morin he won as the Chelsea Thor to supplement him for the queen and uh but it’s 70 grand and he won’t do it so uh and C TR second in the Gold Cup last year W ask again this year already he’s just solid as a rock he probably won’t beat K fos but I can’t see him being out of the first three uh so so why not and River Tyber is the maddest price I’ve ever seen of any horse anti poost and it’s purely because he’s got an entry in the Commonwealth cup uh but believe you me that was not the Run of a sprinter in the Irish guiney last time and if he wasn’t in that everybody would be saying this or will beat those two next time it was his first run of the Season he’s had three cracks with the whip given him you know a ridiculously easy looking ride from Ry Moore compared to the other two Ros got it six times subm seven uh he’s also in the Clips people might not have noticed so they weren’t absolutely sure where to go with him but he definitely stayed a mile he’s only beaten 11 and a quarter or so 16 to1 first time out for the St james’ Palace Stakes River Tiber that is a crazy price and what does that pay Johnny Simpson uh I think it’s Just sh 100,000 for the the accumulator all right that’s a lucky 15 of course is that a pound on then is it or 50p yeah a pound on pound on all right kills trying to knock it out the par Johnny did you come up with did you get into it as kills did yeah I looked at him closely with I was a bit more conservative than than uh well when we saw the email kills his lucky 15 we went he’s having a pop my lucky 15 you wouldn’t buy an underpant even if it wins what do you wear I just trying to keep it simple um yeah I like notable speech like fighter four is is is not to say of the century he’d be definitely more than that because Rosaline is going to and if River Tyber turns up I do think that he won the the guine on Merit I I I think he’ll hold Ros line again uh Rogue Millennium ran well last weekend it did it got it just got hemmed in at a vital Stage IT won the race last year it has a good chance in in a tricky race uh whistle jacket is a certainty in I knew this was coming when I saw this on the email I thought this is the one we’re going to get the clip out of it is a marel it’s the one heart like I don’t really go mad for rascar this is the one heart I definitely will be this is it and it’s 7 to2 at the minute Johnny is it it is 7 to2 when the when the nor came through was on the selections had a Chu oh no he’s found it whistle Jack yeah I totally agree I think he’s got a great chance to ask got all right okay you’re getting singles or doubles all sorts of things going on here and the last one the last one’s continuous there isn’t many could win that race he he was the most likely one like obb can bring H is here first time in win so but of the Ford if I had to pick one there no question it’s whistle jacket whistle jacket whistle jacket straight jacket I’m very I’m very pleased that we got asked to do this because I’ve had a few bets a you post already on some of these passenger I’ve actually backed him at eight so N9 to four is a bit shorter than I’ve got but I still think you’ll win I thought he was very very impressive when he won at Chester uh in a really good time and he did it so easy the way he traveled the way he put the race AB bed I’ll be surprised if any beats him he’s got typical cich Stout profile hasn’t he improve improve as as they get older hard to knock Gregory in the Gold Cup uh has been well beaten obviously first time out at York but before that race John goam was so Keen to stress that that was nothing more than than than a trial and that the horse desperately needs two and a half miles you watch all of his races he’s a dow stay that’s all he does I think that two and a half miles will really suit him jaau was very impressive uh when he won the trial there wasn’t he uh he’s got a very good turn of foot I like Co form and the other one mitt bar oh don’t in the in the in the Jubilee Stakes I forgot he was running last it was so bad at the guine weekend I forgot he was running I nearly napped him we went all around the panel didn’t we put by Jamie Spencer on Art power of course last week and what a r if Jamie big chance if Jamie Spencer can win the the jubile on card him he can definitely win it on MB if there was a horse made for the Jubilee Stakes it’s mitt B you hide and hide and hide and hide and he’ll fly home like he did at Cara which pays Ā£ 3,212 kills is we’re absolutely loving life if you’re going to do it do it that was fun wasn’t it three lucky 15s for you to have a go out it’s all live now of course get involved what a great clip that was that was fun right talking of fun it’s the business end of the show great to have you with us this morning it is nearly coming to the end which means it’s nap time let’s go through the panel gr robway uh there they are who have you gone for I’ve gone for if not now in the 515 Epson for Rafe Becket and Russ ran for the AFF mentioned reasons Johnny Denine I’ll go ancient wisdom in the derby I I think he’s Rock Solid Place material minimum anyway going for Glory KS zky wilky compensation for last year making it easy go for the dash I’ve gone for the three-year-old Dash as well due for luck and these these the boosted prices Johnny they are these are the boosted prices yes got Dua look 13-2 scky wi 11-2 if not now to 10 to one ancient wisdom 7 to one which I imagine be very popular and I’m going to go for she B she could not win from stall 16 in France I think she’s much better than that so I’m going to I’m have a go there 5 to one I could sense in your voice earlier Johnny that you were keen on that one all right there they are they’re live now basically uh and good to go on the site on the app as well that brings us to a conclusion don’t forget to like And subscribe to the screen healthy numbers I was looking in at one point looking at the chat great to have you with this is Derby Day great to be around uh city of Troy there you go 4:30 tune in even if you’re not having a bet in the race we must watch it Johnny great to have you over as ever yeah it was great really enjoyed it Jeff very good brilliant stuff KS yeah enjoyed it mate yeah looking forward to going on watching test at 4:25 on the track I’m going be sitting in front of the T I almost almost hear the shouts from uh from me back guarden is that right okay not quite and good luck at the track today thanks I’m looking forward to it yeah go and join the mosh pit yeah absolutely go and join the mosh pit all right great stuff wherever you’re watching the Derby fantastic French derby tomorrow it’s a classic weekend this has been a classic morning post we’ll be back next Saturday [Music] no [Music] see
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1st Los Angeles
2nd City Of Troy
Forecast pays 12/1š¤
Paul looking like one of the caesars with that laurel bush up his head
Lest we forget Hidden Law
"I don't fancy Persica, at all"
These so-called 'experts', haven't got a clue š
Bellum Justum is an April foal not May
Fast forward to 48 mins 40 seconds..
Amazing lols..
TipstersššPmsl
Eat your words ladsā¦ think you know more than Aiden Oābrien. Remind me how many horses youāve all trained?
Keals …….TW@T
O YE OFF LIITTLE FAITH
YAWN IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON
American-made!!!
Francesca cumani said just before the 2,000 guineas that she had heard from a friend in o Brien camp that the derby was the main race for city of Troy : she was right ! But when he bombed out in 2000 race he drifted to 8/1 for derby hmmm disappointing
My money went on troy.Nice.He was easy to back you numpties!
I told you all my 123 in the Derby. Paying odds of 72/1 chi ching