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he doesn’t get into the greatest conversation until he gets another Super Bowl he doesn’t even get into the conversation not saying that he’s the greatest you can’t even talk about him in the conversation CT Warner says until he gets another Super Bowl this will be the most exhilarating conversation of your sports dialogue today and we are kicking it off with James Jones you won a Super Bowl with Aaron Rogers you’re passionate about this conversation does Aaron Rogers need another Super Bowl appearance to be in the goat conversation I’m all ears Kurt is my dog too man Kurt Kurt Kurt is my dog MVP Super Bowl champion sir good play really Ty dog really good really good player just like my just like German shepher type of dog is he more like man he good people you know D type of dog what type you know what I’m saying well he in the Hall of Fame so he’s some you know you know what I’m saying but um in my eyes no but in the world’s eyes in your eyes know what James no he does not need another Super Bowl to be the goat conversation in my eyes but that’s me being biased because I played with Aaron Rogers and I know how great Aaron Rogers is good J they pay you to be biased they pay right real yo we got to the producers I see for we didn’t know the real truth he I’m a packer for Life Aaron is my brother you know what I’m saying to me what I seen with my eyes on Aaron Rogers he absolutely does not need another Super Ball ring to be in that go conversations but to everybody else’s eyes [Laughter] and if I had a third eye um to be in the goat conversation I agree with Kurt Warner I agree with Kurt Warner he needs another Super Bowl to put him in the pton Manning to put him in the Joe Montan to put him in the Patrick momes to put him in the elite and greatest quarterback of all time conversation he needs another Super Bowl so I don’t got to sit up here with shady and listen to Shady talk about all his stats and he don’t win and all that type stuff Aaron Rogers is the greatest quarterback we’ve ever seen with one Super Bowl he needs another one to be up in that goat conversation with them other quarterbacks because I know even AO if Aaron Rogers gets another Super Bowl it’s gonna be some quarterbacks that Aaron Rogers moves in front of on ao’s list you mention my name so let me get my quick takee yep I don’t think he does I don’t think he needs in a Super Bowl but Aaron Rogers hold on hold on need another Super how so you think right now today what’s today th% I think it’s March 28th 28 yeah today yeah you think he can be he it’s the 30th he’s in the goat conversation I don’t know it’s March of 2024 and you think he can be in the goat yes but here’s why he’s in the goat conversation Aaron Rogers ain’t in a goat conversation because he’s a winner well we know that he’s in exactly he’s in a goat conversation because of how talented he is I believe that Aaron Rogers is the most talented quarterback thrower of the football the game has ever seen I would put Dan Marino also in that conversation but Dan Marino could not throw off platform like Aaron Rogers could throw I could put John Elway in that conversation cuz John Elway could throw off platform but not in the same manner that Aaron Rogers can do it you can put Patrick Mahomes in that conversation but I don’t believe Patrick Mahomes is as great a thrower he is more creative than Aaron Rogers and has a more creative coach and is a better winner but if Aaron Rogers is in the goat conversation not CU his ability to win he don’t win not nearly enough he’s in the goat conversation because of his talent and we all know that individual Shady you rolling your eyes you know that dude you know that dude who people ask you and you’re like yo this dude was cold yeah and like oh Shady who we play for in the league now he ain’t play in the league AO what you mean he ain’t playing the league AO I’m telling you he’s a most athletic dude then why ain’t he playing the league like we all know that individual who didn’t accomplish nearly enough but we know their talent we saw him play against other equally talented people and we saw what his talent did compared to what their talent did so for me Aaron Rogers is already in the goat conversation is not the goat CU he didn’t win nearly enough but he in a goat conversation because of talent so winning another Super Bowl ain’t going to change that he’s still not jumping Tom Brady or payon Manning if all it is about for you is wins that’s where I’m at with Aaron um that’s that was a was a take that you just gave was it um well first of all there is no goat conversation there is no conversation the greatest of all time is Tom Brady so if we want to talk about about who some of the other great are I don’t even want to rank second best yet like move it around you know but like the greatest of all time the goats because we we throw this term out a lot goat goat goat who’s goat she’s goat he’s goat the goats there’s only one greatest of all time not some of the greatest of all time not greats greatest of all time is Tom Brady that’s not a conversation so the goat conversation to me that that he’s talking about is is one of the greatest of all time Aaron Rogers is an all-time great player if we were to open the door to the goat conversation which we’ve we’ve dabbled with around someone like a Patrick Mahomes who is still not even there yet Aaron wouldn’t be in that conversation I’m not lowering the bar for Aaron Rogers we lower the bar to hell for a lot for dating food standards infrastructure politics bars and hell I’m not doing it for this conversation I’m sorry we don’t need to water everything down to put a little corn syrup sugar in this conversation Aaron Rogers is an all-time great player Tom Brady went to 10 Super Bowls 10 10 Super Bowls he won seven his Seven Rings is more than any organization all these years the NFL has existed all these different players he has more rings than any other organization Aaron Rogers has been to one Super Bowl in one it was a great memory for you you were there and I’m and I’m I know that it was it was great you you contributed that we happy for you yes we are and can take that away from him he is a champion he is a champion no one no one can do that is he the only super talented player that has won a championship no he’s not is he the only quarterback that has won multiple MVPs no he’s not he has four MVPs right you know who has five pton pyton pton what did kg say yesterday what’d he say why are you special oh right right the Championships yeah why are you special what makes you special what makes what makes Aaron Rogers special what makes him special in this conversation in this room of all these great that I’m throwing out compared to me of course he not comparison he’s a different he’s a demigod amongst those other men with all those rings and MVPs and stuff what what makes him special so this rhetorical or to be answer no no this is to be answered because we always talk about talent and talent is so confusing to me CU what talent the talent of throwing touchdowns well he doesn’t have the most he doesn’t have the most touchdowns what about passing yards but he doesn’t have the most passing yards in fact he’s ninth in passing yards he’s eighth in completions he’s fifth in passing touchdowns he is first in passer rating right he’s unbelievable Shady unbelievable touchdown to interception ratio right gorgeous some might say he doesn’t take chances could that be could that be it like he doesn’t push it he does cuz he doesn’t throw interceptions and he also has you know who did take chances you know who did take chances BR you know who else took chances BR no no no no that’s not the name I’m looking for P Manning took some chances right didn’t you take some chances you know what he has five MVPs and multiple Super Bowls and the most inter I’m not saying that Aaron Rogers okay well do you think that Aaron Rogers would trade a couple of those perfect touchdown interception ratios for another ring so probably so I’m not saying that this I’m not saying that that that statistic is not a good one to have I’m just saying when you step into a room with Payton Manning with Joe Montana with Patrick Mahomes with these guys who have John Elway with these guys that have won multiple Super Bowls everybody’s talented so why are you why do all of a sudden does Aaron Rogers get slotted up to the top of the most talented in a room full of all these these Geniuses I don’t get it um so basically what we are saying is who’s we cuz we all saying three different no no no I’m just trying to get I’m just trying to get some clarification so basically kind of what the world saying and CT Warner saying is the quarterback stat if you don’t have Super Bowls you can’t be in that conversation for the greatest of all time cuz you have to win any always been like that any other position any other position it don’t matter you can lose and all that type stuff and just be a great play most important position is the winning position as the quarterback the winning position we talk about Talent right which I’m surprised we didn’t talk about D Marina as much I mentioned it as much as we talk about you did much we talk about Aaron Rog being so great as a talent right you hear the same thing with d Marino since high school college and pro yes sir so go ahead I want hear what you about to say so because I just I just know how you feel about Eli Manning and he has two of them yeah so when you just I’m just no no hold on hold on real quick hold on real quick because when you talk Aaron Rogers and you talk Eli Manny with more Super Bowls now what do you go to when you talk the greatest I mean but be serious though no I’m I’m being de serious everybody hold up everybody we just talk see this what I’m saying like I guess it’s TV so we doing because so you got to have talent too is what I’m saying but you gotta be elite nobody thinks Eli M’s ever been Elite he got some good champ cool I’m not gonna hate on he want some Champion cool B Tom Brady phenomenal right you deserve some credit for that but like let’s be serious we talking about everybody that she just named everybody need his name those Elite guys I but everybody that you guys are talking about the main reason you’re saying Aaron Rogers cannot get into this conversation is because he doesn’t have enough super bows it’s not about the talent say he wasn’t in that conversation say was I’m saying we talk but not Aaron Rogers Talent is what I’m saying and the reason why they’re in front of Aaron Rogers is because of the Super Bowl rings Payton Manning all due respect great player Hall of Fame all that he does not have Aaron Rogers talent but he has more Super Bowl rings and he’s in front of Aaron Joe Montana all due respect four Super Bowls great quarterback I grew up in the bay I love Joe he does not have Aaron Rogers talent but since the Super Bowls because he won he’s in front of 12 that’s all I’m saying and then his other quarterbacks with not his talent with more Super Bowl rings we saying Aaron is better than because now Talent kicks in and Elite kicks in I’m trying to figure out why okay so I think every quarter we talking about has enough Talent right to be in the room but not that dude so maybe maybe might be more than less than Whoever has more Talent but in any sport right especially we talk about the goats now we talking about great players it’s a lot of them dog it’s a lot of great players we talking about great goats though right because even uh Kurt Warren spoke about it he not considering himself a goat he he was a he’s a great player but he not a go he’s he’s not put himself in that so my thing is everybody we talking about has talent and they have championships my thing is your boy that you love to talk about and you get hostile little loud about don’t never win that’s not what he does so if we give him like awards for how special your ball you can’t say he don’t never win he don’t win chips yo he’s 11 and 10 in the playoffs though bro that’s his record he has one championship’s 40 years old he’s been playing he’s been playing leite for 20 something years he’s got one Super Bowl appearance understand that but you don’t win all these MVPs and all that for not winning I let me let me ask a question because can I say before you go you’re right talking Super Bowl he’s right right if I had really break this down and I’m gonna give Aaron Rogers the credit he is the greatest regular season player I’ve ever seen keep giving that award but all this goats and all that that’s like like if you if you brought Tom Brady here because he’s with fox now he ain’t gonna talk to you about no talent What’s Talent getting what’s it getting you being so talented what does that get you though I’ve been around so many players that’s been talented was that got you one dude right that went to Michigan that didn’t have a super great career went to the pros right put hard work in he was super smart and had good enough Talent not Elite great talent good enough Talent what is he he’s the greatest player to ever walked this Earth I’ll say this changes it Chang it’s it can be confusing and let me try to break it down calmly the reason it can be confusing is because let’s talk football let’s talk basketball let’s talk them all y’all are smart enough to do it and everybody next to me smart enough to do it when you think about basketball if you were just going off of winning you would likely say that like Bill Russell is the greatest basketball player ever but what do we do when we bring in Bill Russell we use our eyes and we say from a talent perspective Michael Jordan plus Michael Jordan got six rings so Jordan got rings plus he got talent but you’re not just going greens with Bill Russell because you use your eyes of course he has 11 chips 13 appearances I believe but you use your eyes Aaron roders he only has one ship I get all that but eventually when we use our eyes we will say you know what this dude goes crazy we talk about Kyrie Irving we just talked about Kyrie Irving we’ll talk about him tomorrow he’s playing in game five tonight an elimination game Kyrie many people would say is one of the most talented basketball players ever Kyrie got one ring he got one of them but he’s one of the most talented basketball players ever I believe Joy when Aaron Rogers enters into the room with Tom Brady with pton Manning with Joe Montana amongst others everybody’s talented they all talented but I believe when Aaron Rogers enters in the room the differentiating factors is he’s more physically talented now you could say what the heck does it matter AO I say I feel you I feel you and and and to Shady’s point it’s a quarterback conversation because I think Shady’s favorite running back all time is Barry sers Barry’s not number one he’s not number two he’s not number three on the all-time rushing list but you your eyes Barry was different I don’t think Barry went to the playoffs I believe one time but Barry was different now it’s not the quarterback it’s the running back so I do think it is a confusing conversation because if you use your eyes you would say Aaron roders is one of the most talented if not the most talented quarterback he’s not talented but to Shady’s Point what has all that Talent got you and when you get into the room with greats everybody’s talented the beauty pageant everybody’s beautiful what makes you special all right I got this too I played in this league when you played in this league I had good defenses you had good defenses I play with good good receivers you play with good receivers at one point or another once you get to the top then we got to start separating by margins and if you play the position that we especially especially of all the sports that we separate and put in this different category which is quarterback can’t even bring basketball into it there’s alltime great players that didn’t win championships so we we hold a very high regard because they’re extremely Talent ented but we put the ones that have championships in a different category and then we put the ones that have multiple championships in a different category and then we start talking about all the different talents that they had and could they play in different eras of course we all use our eyeballs this isn’t a sweeping statement but I’m saying why would Aaron Rodgers get put above someone like a Payton Manning because he looks different than Payton Manning because the other part of this this Talent like subjective conversation that irritates me is what is talents we talk all the time about how much much intelligence it takes to play the quarterback position is intelligence a talent that is a talent I want to bring that up is that more important than laser like accuracy Aon got that too okay but you know what Aaron doesn’t have that pton has Super Bowl five MVPs in multiple Super Bowl R so like so why if why if they’re both super smart and they’re both super accurate and they both had a Super Bowl and they both had an MVP when do we start separating it for me it’s when you start getting the accolades like it’s people talk about this with Tom Brady how is Tom Brady not talented how is he not talented he the most talented player that’s ever existed because he but what he did was win but let me ask you though Joy because obviously we all have the maturation to have the Nuance conversation somebody would challenge you and I’d probably do it as well okay pton Manning you got one more Super Bowl win than Tom Brady one more Super Bowl win than uh Aaron Rogers he has one more and and he has three um super four appearances four appearan hold on I didn’t I didn’t land before you go before you go your playe right before you even get on right let check your ID all I’m saying is this though your boy that you keep hyping up though you keep talking about like Super Bowl wins he’s only even been there once for you to be so great in t you only even seen Super Bowl once correct you get what I’m saying you didn’t even seen it though I’m not talking about winning my attention is this we all saw pton Manning and I’m giving it to him shout out to pton Manning in 2015on pton Manning got benched for Brock Osweiler pton Manning got nine touchdowns 17 interceptions pton Manning won the Super Bowl off the back of I would say the third best since the 2010s not just V but it was V it was Tran it now pyton got two he has two and I’m not taking none of them away from at all but in the same breath are you going to say and I think Payton’s just better than Aaron Rogers so I’m not fully saying it sorry James but are you gonna say well because pton got that second one where the season he got benched had nine touchdowns 17 interceptions because pton got that second one he’s better like that’s story where I I AO right that’s and that was a good take your boy only been there once you get what I’m saying for you to be so great this what this why and like I don’t like no Aaron R like I’ve been proos with him he’s I don’t know him like that so there nothing like against him but my thing for you to set this table I don’t think he sits at the table with these guys for you to even be in the room sitting at the table yo you’ve only even been there once all the great course we talk about yeah LeBron James always want to hate on him oh he don’t he only have four and all that but how many times he’s been there it’s a good point so the re the reason why um oh boy um Warner even spoke about he didn’t say about winning championship you only been there once do you hear what I’m saying James you everybody has valid points at this desk I’m not saying that all my is right on all I’m saying is when we do talk about Aaron Rodgers and we say how talented he is we kind of tend to skip over all the things he accomplished because he’s only been the one he accomplished the man has four MVPs we like skip over we skip over that stuff like man what does talent mean well his talent has got him four MVPs and not no just oh the MVP voting is here no the man dominated clearly the best player in International Football League but we talk about him like he ain’t accomplished nothing cuz he’s only been to one Super Bowl he’s he’s accomplished a lot in the regular season that’s what I was saying no we’re saying you’re right James Jones he’s done he’s done all these great things in the regular season but to that point though if if Aaron Rogers is at the conversation right if he’s at this conversation with everybody the reason Aaron Rogers could say I’m greater than y’all as Tom Brady will throw his Rings down Tom not this conversation Tom I he’s going to throw his Rings down Pat’s going to throw his Rings down Montana going to throw his Rings down pton gonna throw his Rings down and at least Aaron could throw his MVPs down and then Aaron could say y’all ain’t in the conversation because we’re y’all MVPs a so at least Aaron could I mean it is all but being the most valuable player of football for me it’s hard for you it’s not you was one of the greatest ever but like to win four listen though you hear what you saying though you talking about regular season though like who wants that though that’s cool no no no that’s an accomplishment though so I mean I’m not hating on MVP that’s hard to get I’m saying like you’re a regular season Champion that’s what you are these other dudes are like world champions though right these dudes are winning championships and then we keep we keep skipping over it though he’s only been there once you get what I’m saying for you to be so great all all these MV I’m not even talking about winning so like when they have the Kobe Bryan and the LeBron’s and like they winning championships right momes Brady can can can Mahomes catch Brady with the championship I’m not even talking about that part you’ve only even like took your luggage and you booked your flight to the championship so now about how many you’ve been to I’m just saying for you to be so great and so to like you say is should have gone more than once doubt I don’t know should I don’t know about that I’m just saying for you to be so high praised and so great you’ve only been to the superow one time I understand what you’re saying but it’s just crazy how it’s just crazy how it changes for Aaron because like I say it’s not for everybody everybody if you got more Super Bowls than them and you don’t got more Talent errand in front of you if you got more Super Bowls than him and and and Aaron Rogers and you might be similar and all that you can’t sit at this table right if you now if you go to the Super Bowl I mean Jim Kelly been there four times why he ain’t in there that that that’s all I’m saying like it it’s just something that always changes this dude is one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game of football and it’s not even close and I don’t care how many Super Bowl rings somebody got cuz I seen people win Super Bowls and at the quarterback spot and they ain’t really do nothing not this great stuff it don’t matter matter that’s that’s a problem Aaron has accomplished a whole lot more of them in other areas than just super we’re not talking about Eli Manning it does matter we’re talking about the big dogs we’re talking about the ones that is on everyone’s list when you’re like oh like who your who’s your top 10 these ones is going to be on everybody the order the order might matter no the greatest to ever do it when we talk about we can’t talk greatest to ever do it if it’s just about winning no it’s all of it it’s all of it that’s the reason why Tom is over there and he don’t come to this meeting he’s passing he’s not he’s not dialing in no Zoom nothing y’all decide what you want come let me know who who’s second all the way down there for me Joe Montana won a lot his he ain’t got none of the type Talent Aaron Rogers got and I I go to my grave with that none of it that that sounds good he don’t got none of the championship he got he don’t got none of the MVP T the the turkey gets put down Joe Montana gets the other leg like Brady gets one and he gets it first and then Joe gets the other one so the go the goat for quarterbacks is all about that hurts my heart though Joy because I’m like if we seon Champs I’m with because I’m really with shady and joy in the sense of like he should have been more than once but I can’t and quarterback is a winning statistic to me it is a winning statistic I will die on that Hill is a winning statistic but I can’t go too too far cuz then you start talking about Troy Amman and Troy got three who said Troy but I’m saying like if you if you if we live and die on these what’s the threshold cuz Montana got four so once you have four are you now in it but three we all we didn’t mention a lot of names up here okay because we keep pulling up Eli Manning and bringing in Kur bring bringing in Jin Kelly bringing in and bringing in Troy we didn’t bring those names up we name we talked about like like four people right who who do we name we named Tom Brady Joe Montana Joe Montana P Manning that’s all the elite of the El that’s the only ones that I mentioned who else got brought up nobody going to say that Troy was Elite an elite okay uh Jim Kelly nobody elite elite we we talking about especially Eli oh my God we talking about the great the elites of the all I’m saying is why why if it’s about winning quarterback’s a winning stat why isn’t Troy in front of not because it’s not just talent and winning she’s going talent and winning she’s going talent but it’s talent and and and three or more Super Bowls I wish I wish I was Joe Montana and somebody asked me this question I Joy Taylor whoop was Joe Montana you could ask me this question so I could click and hang up one we are talking about if Joe honest man he gonna say I got F but Aaron different that’s cute but that doesn’t mean anything when we talking about championships and accomplishments at the highest level question my only question shady and is when does it stop right because so Jo Joe will hang up K he got four will Troy hang up because he got three will Brad Shaw hang up because he got three does everybody who has guys brought these names we are talking about Talent and accomplishments who who who what type of talent cuz cuz these dudes that one a have talent BR I got four so it’s BR like every sport though right in every sport we talk about the goats not this good great players the goats you gonna have you going have stats accomplishments right and then you gonna have what did you do you dominate do you have championships like all that counts Jordan don’t just get great because he got freaking uh six rings but he got deepest player to get everything so it’s a line of things you have to accomplish and all I’m saying is your boy he’s only hit one part of that that’s the okay can I just ask you something really quick before we go to break if Aaron Rogers comes out here this season right he has a really good team he has a really good defense if he comes out here this season and he throws nine touchdowns and 17 interceptions and they win the Super Bowl is he in the goat conversation yes yeah yes yes yes because he has four MVPs because he’s played in this league for 20 years because we know how talented he was winning either matters or it doesn’t let’s not count let’s not let’s play for fun let’s stop keeping stats and wins and losses it doesn’t matter it’s all for it’s all for the joy of the game we can just measure with our eyeball so now it don’t matter how you play or how you get to the Super Bowl as long as you a quarterback all this money what that threw me off to mus that me I thought they G to say no I thought they going to say no that me off let’s hug let’s hug instead subscribe here to get the latest from speak and go watch a 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