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[Music] reun hello y’all I was selling crack when a private J up been a h and back but no confusion this a reunion hello y’all welcome back your murder here he counting money he said c in the hell with rap I’m only here to [ __ ] on [ __ ] and piss on [ __ ] welcome ass I with jewelry and bikes [ __ ] black Benes and white Biggers now I’m out here and I’m looking for more chandeliers and like fixtures nah I don’t like [ __ ] what’s rolling me I’m all right [ __ ] but this 44 turn the mic Jo I say welcome back to it is what it is this episode is sponsored by Underdog fantasy the app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players Underdog is available in more than 30 States including California Texas and New York just to name a few make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the underdog fantasy app they also match your first deposit up to $100 and you get a special pick when you sign up I’m treasure Wilson AKA stat baby along with your hosts mace and what’s up what’s good man what good bro how you man good man what’s up man it’s good to see you man I went to bronie pro day yesterday man you did yeah I pulled up on it man how did it go look good look good man look pretty good good as [Laughter] in he did good but you know what I realized with prod day and I just to bronny anybody I’m talking about Pro Day the combine for football it matters when them other players out there to me you know you can see [ __ ] killing the drills pause but it’s like if you’re boxing you just in that ring and the the heavy not in the ring you in the gym and the heavy bag don’t punch back you could be killing the heavy bag yeah so but he looked good as far as his prod day was concerned man BR told me to tell you what’s up he said uh he said he wanted to know exactly why you was wearing sun on your album cover I don’t know what it was he said he coming in here with both our album covers I forget what it was he said you had the peace line up he said was that Puffs out there yeah he said he reminded me the day he said he coming in here with both our first album covers that nigga’s a comedian but yeah it was it was a good day okay so let’s get into game one the timber lives lost to the Mavs 108 to 105 seeing that game how do you guys think the series is going to go and what did you think of the Timberwolves loss after the things Ant-Man has been saying St you’re gaslighting us I’m not you ask your questions are very gaslit how so you ask us where’s the series going cuz you know it’s going to change from game to game and you asking it just to put cam in a bad situation I don’t think so I think some people might have felt like it set the tone and some people don’t well put me in a bad situation he said you’re a bad situation not anybody but wouldn’t do that you know that you know that um he didn’t know you was gaslighting him but I now know you gaslighting you feel like the tone of how I said it sounds like I’m gaslighting it’s TR to gasl me on CNN man I can’t be G lit I’m a l no foil I’m a astray I can’t be gas lit man it’s electric man electric man got man yeah I mean well shout out to PT PT said they was going to win and um he wanted me to give him a shout out there you go PT shout out to PT PT said they was going to win but I told him that I don’t put nobody above Kyrie this is why it it’s like he gets up for these games that pause that comes down to guys who’s supposed to be like that it’s like he take that game extra extra personal and when you got Luca getting 33 and Kyrie getting 30 they’re not going to lose if they’re playing that good and um this guy PJ Watson shows you the I mean Washington shows the difference of what one player can do on a team like he’s not the star of the team but he’s actually the pause the perfect fit for that for that unit and and that’s really good especially and um Derek W what’s his name Lively what’s his first name Derek yeah Derek Lively they got some good key players shout out to Sham I just spoke to Sham too sham called me up with the whole executive staff from the Mavericks shout out to y’all appreciate y’all showing me love I said they’ve been watching me lately I’m on fire out here they said man said what I that’s what you do it’s electric it’s electric it’s electric it’s electric but yeah Big shout out big shout out to them when that gave one win um after the game was over Kyrie went up to the podium of the TNT uh staff you know um Kenny Charles Shaq Ernie and the guys and yeah and um Charles asked him when an Anthony ens bought your name up did you take it personal because when he said your name the first time I said excuse me he said yeah Kyrie is my next assignment we going to see you take it personal cuz I was thinking you could have just been home chilling not bothering nobody and he calling out your name Kyrie had the face like I used it for motivation I I ain’t gonna say I took it personal but that that was really saying yeah AKA yeah I took it personal yeah in other words yeah I don’t know why you would call me out I I I don’t get it like I’m not the one to be called out if you want to call somebody else call some with the with the handle package P he why called me out and um he shot over 50% from the field Luca shot right under 30 even though uh the Mavs as a team shot 24% from three which was atrocious they did shoot 95% from the free throw line uh so it was a great game uh you know [ __ ] was calling me talking about yeah Antman eat his words now should he watch what he say and I’m like no I like that I like that like he should watch y first of all it’s a long series or it could be a long series secondly this ain’t the time to stop talking yeah this is this is only time to talk more I like Muhammad Ali and them [ __ ] murder I told [ __ ] ning them [ __ ] man I ain’t really with with the [ __ ] kumay before Larry Bird this the [ __ ] you got guard me this your man yeah I like all that I [ __ ] like yo you should show respect nah you know and then you know [ __ ] okay we talking about s he said did didn’t you have respect for somebody you play I said no I didn’t have respect for one [ __ ] I played not one I made new pause I may know what I had to deal with talking about oh this [ __ ] is nice but respect them how you even go out on the court and be like now I got to show respect yeah that I don’t even want to hear nobody on my team say that yo why you ain’t got him I’m just showing some respect N I ain’t jacking that bro so uh I thought when Kyrie answered the question he was like he he answered it modestly but you could tell by his facial expressions exactly how he felt when [ __ ] said his name uh call Anthony towns have a great game uh Anthony Edwards did not have a good game they all played mediocre and the one thing I will say no matter what they still only lost by three points and Dallas won a 80 run towards the end of the game which they were already winning so when you guys aren’t playing that good and you still only lose by three I wouldn’t take this as a moral Victory but it’s something to look forward to saying hey man if we would have made an adjustment here or then make this mistake or this turnover we would have thought about something to build on will it work for the next game we’ll have to wait and see because they still lost at home and isn’t even like they was on the road so I’m looking forward to the series it was a good game one yeah and I think playing in Dallas is going to be different Dallas is ready to win another championship um it it seemed like that’s what they gearing towards cuz when when they won the last championship they won it seemed like that Championship came sneaky too Paul just to think about it nobody really thought they was going to beat Miami right and then all of a sudden you’re like where did this dude come from where did this little guy come from and all of a sudden they’re they’re winning the the tourn I mean they’re winning the championship you got Jason Terry tattooing his arm they was going crazy so I think this is this is like the morale that Dallas is in right now they’re thinking like if we win this we could win the championship cuz I think whoever wins this series is going to win the championship I’m still not so that Boston is going to win it interesting take we’ll see what happens okay so the Minnesota Governor declares wolves back day and quotes Anthony Edwards in a secret message with his letter having each of the first letters spell out bring your ass cuz that’s what Anthony Edwards said to Charles Barkley and a postgame interview so what do you guys think of that being the Timberwolves new little unofficial motto that’s I don’t have nothing to say about that I don’t get it you know and I’m not B trying to figure it out see that’s what I mean by Gaslight right there all the comments this is the one you brought up this ain’t no setup this is a lot big discussion right now cuz he said it what do you think about it I I don’t know it’s different I’ve never seen you know that be an unofficial motto and I’ve never really seen a player say that what does he mean by it he was saying bring your ass to Minnesota CU Charles was like I haven’t been there in over how many years so that’s what Ant-Man told him that’s different is it is it gen Z is it gen Z stuff yeah that’s crazy you see c i waiting for yall Ain nothing I mean pause like I don’t like using slogans that you can’t use everywhere you can’t use that in jail you got to that’s something you tell a little kid when you when they not listening and trying to leave I’m not mad at it for if that’s what they want to run with PA but I don’t know you know who’s gonna be saying that like that white people say it yeah it’s a weird saying St what would you do if a God said that to you is that is that borderline like you know we got to watch our words these days I wouldn’t really be upset oh all right so next time you running late okay not you no not you I’ll make sure I’m not late I can imagine your face if I would have TT about you wouldn’t be mad like what what okay Fair Point ready for the next one y’all yeah okay so a family alleges lamelo ball drove over her son’s foot with his car and is now trying to Sue lamelo and the team so she said her son went up to lamelo and was like lamelo I love you sign me give me your autograph can you sign it for me and she said she saw her son go down and thought maybe he dropped something come to find out he didn’t drop anything and she says lamelo ball drove over his foot breaking it um yeah there’s like pictures of just him in crutches and stuff so after hearing that story what do you guys think of the situation just in general first I got to know how old a boy was because you you know this is in the day and age somebody run up to your car it depends on how tall was the kid how tall was he not that he should have ran over his foot but I’m trying to get context to the story yeah so the boy was 11 years old how tall he was I don’t know but yeah cuz you just I I know for me if somebody’s running up to my car you know I’ve been in in in a lot of crazy situations Paul so somebody running up to my car I’m out but I I I don’t think if the kid was little he should have done that but if the kid was taller you get what I’m saying if he’s if he’s 11 years old and he’s this is based off of the mother’s story obviously I was not there if he’s 11 and he’s saying sign yeah if he’s saying sign that that’s kind of weird that um that he ran over his foot like that’s what she said do you think he was just trying to get away like didn’t want to sign anything or do you think he maliciously ran over I don’t think I do not think lamelo would maliciously run over a ‘s foot like so it was it was a bad idea that went worse right yes that’s what it sounds like yeah like he was trying to get out of there and then ran over the kid foot and what do you do when your when your idol hurt you pause that’s crazy like the guy you looked up to cuz if he ran up for autograph he’s probably a Super Fan it’s lamelo ball especially if it’s in Charlotte is is where he you know he hope he may play one day and then this is like really scarring so I hope he get I hope I hope they settle out I don’t think it should be stressed out and you know put all in the media like this but because it is something that probably was just a freak accident that he was just trying to get out of there and ran over his foot you know lamelo is like one of my favorite players out of the young guys so I definitely definitely don’t think he meant any harm by it but when you get older it’s not about what you meant it’s not about your intent it’s about what actually happened and that should be a rule for people that people need to know that when you’re young you can say I ain’t mean to do it when you get older it doesn’t matter what you meant to do you did it actually a very very good point and Kim no MJ man his foot so he ain’t put his foot there on purpose you trying to catch a lawsuit then when the lawsuit come you like I knew this this foot might not have been broken if they only got pictures of him on crutches why they a recorded the scene yo that’s lamelo somebody have that on tape yeah at the scene if so you what you’re saying is you don’t think he ran over his foot I’m not saying that he didn’t because I don’t want to accuse 11y old a lion and lamelo ball didn’t say he didn’t run over his foot so it isn’t like it’s a lie at this point I’m just the boy probably ain’t saying he ran over his foot it’s the mom on behalf of the mom mom trying to yeah but at the end of the day that mean and listen the mother’s doing with a I don’t know the race but a black or brown mom would do we going to the hospital and your [ __ ] was yeah yeah yeah yeah because the whole thing is it was it might have been you know he almost ran over my foot you said he ran over your foot he did run fo look at over your fo that’s the problem you can’t feel it right now you your adrenaline PA you love him this much that you can’t can’t admit when he ran over your foot get your bring your ass bring your ass he going to the hospital I don’t understand and I’m not saying it isn’t footage but you know if he was running up to lamelo I’m pretty sure it should have been some saned cameras everywhere so I don’t want to say he’s not telling the truth but no it should it should be more information to this story I don’t know how long it’ll last but maybe like May said the smartest thing whether he did or didn’t was is to settle out yeah you want to drag this out how much money they looking for 25,000 oh that’s not a lot R over his foot yeah cuz now he ran over that foot it’ be 200k first of first of all first of all I’m going for 7 mil because I I was I was a dancer my passion was to dance that’s all this boy wanted to do his mother all he wanted to do is dance 25,000 that means they super broke somebody in the house ain’t giving them the right information yeah they said they got the wrong information you go you go for 5 million you settle out for 200 250 we get 250 we ain’t even do nothing wrong but 25 [ __ ] that’s that’s a PR nightmare for the for the Charlotte um Bobcats Hornet Hornet yeah but at the end of the day they trying to sue a team and him and only get 25 get this over with get it over right lawyer yeah yeah tell them y said whoa whoa whoa whoa who told you 25 25 ain’t even my commission exactly that’s a fact a fact so this happen where did this happen at on the ground this [ __ ] might [ __ ] might be over with by now cuz 25,000 I would have sent that ASAP hey we’ll see what kind of car he was in all that they gonna go through all of that well even though we joke up here hope the child is okay hope lamelo figures it out you know yeah the child is okay the child okay according to mace the child is okay yeah they already said he already saying 255 25 mean he’s okay if he was real really H he’d be asking for way more money than that I think even for a broke footage worth more than 25 get a boy more than 25 man come on man ran over the boy foot new Mas is [Music] wow say he wanted 25 I gave him 25 say yo old M like I don’t I just GNA have to go on the run I don’t see 12 50 yeah I see tell them I got 3,200 in my pocket and then moving along the all NBA first team was announced with Giannis Luca esier yit and Jason Tatum after hearing that list what do you guys think of the player selected Giannis Luca Luka SGA SGA yic Jason Tatum that’s that’s decent I wouldn’t arue with that um yeah I mean it’s good for now it’s good for now I I thought Ant-Man should be in that list but he’s second he’s second yeah read that list again Ant-Man should be in that first list Giannis Luca SGA yic Jason Tatum Ant-Man is on the second team I’m not gonna hate on St Louis because St Louis been in my DMs crazy pause they’re like yo you hating on Bradley Bill now you hating on Tatum like yo mace what’s good with you and St Louis man I forgot they was all from St Louis I was just giving my honest commentary but when it comes to Ant-Man I don’t I can’t think of somebody that should be off of there but it just seemed like he should be on there okay yeah I’m more intrigued with the second and third list I’m not mad at the first list and I’m not mad at the second list it’s the third list third team that um want to talk about second team Jaylen Brunson Anthony Edwards yeah Anthony Edwards Kevin Durant Anthony Davis and kawwai lonard how you feel about Jaylen Brunson making second team I think that’s cool I think that’s cool um I’m not sure about Kawai being on that list yeah me I agree with that as well I’m definitely I know he’s done great things for the NBA Toronto and all of that but nah nah champ the goat should be on that if if anybody from from the Clippers the goat should be on it yeah and I don’t even know if anybody from the Clippers should be on it yep so yeah that’s second team Jaylen Brun brck P me Jaylen Brunson Anthony Davis Kevin Durant Anthony Edwards and K lenth and third team Devin Booker Stephen Curry Tyrese hbert and LeBron James and sabonis what do you think about that list I know they don’t like that PA I know LeBron doesn’t like that being on third team I know Stephen Curry doesn’t like being on third team and other people are probably happy they on there I’m on there with LeBron and step Ty hbert yeah he def like we in the same class [ __ ] I’m on the same level yeah I don’t like Devin Booker on this list um Halbert and what about Maxie yeah I’m not mad at Maxi Maxi should have been on that third list yeah I’m I’m not Devin Booker I don’t I don’t I mean I didn’t watch the Suns he was getting busy all year he was okay okay and that’s what that’s why I said um Maxi should be there over halberton because there was some games that halberton just got missing I mean I know he turned up in New York but I remember a few games remember we was talking about the tournament and he went out there in the tournament and he he did Dame time and then next time they played somebody and they just completely vanished he was that LeBron them right yeah but he was he was hurt um after the tournament for a while but they didn’t want to talk about it and uh well you out there I don’t you know you out there you’re out there but uh that’s what they were talking about they saying he started getting getting more healthy towards the playoffs so that’s why they saying you’re seeing a different hir in between uh the play you think he played better than Maxi tyes Maxi Philadelphia Maxi been getting crazy the whole season so good I wouldn’t argue if you put Maxi there I’m not gonna argue put him there either but I get I get your point I’m not mad at either one of those I just think that uh Maxi would have probably been there and Joel embiid if they had their full team Maxi the reason why I would put Maxi there because even though they didn’t make the playoffs initially he held them at least in them top eight seeds to get to the playoffs to get Joel MB back even to play so if you put him in Tyrese halberton spot I wouldn’t be mad at either yeah because at one point Maxi was playing equivalent with with Jaylen with Jaylen Brunson so he’s probably at homes with b ball voice I get it yeah okay so there there’s a what did he do I didn’t do right right so there’s a couple things to note so LeBron James is now the youngest and the oldest player to make an all NBA team but I want to get you guys’ reactions to two of like the major comments that I’m seeing around the list so one people feel like for the first team Jaylen Brunson got robbed and it should have been him over Jason Tatum do you guys agree or disagree what I’m reading comments that must have been somek New York somebody from New York wrote that comment tell me that name I’mma look them up on Instagram right now this is Twitter Twitter is where everybody chat Twitter they go crazy Santo yeah Santo he from the Bronx watch what you say his bio New York yeah he from New York Santo I heard it but yeah um he should have been first team no he should I don’t even have him over um Anthony Edwards I remember killer asked me that who would you take Jaylen Bronson or or um Anthony Edwards and we both said Anthony edws so and that all played out to be true even moving forward yeah I think when it comes to Jaylen Brunson and the New York next had amazing year though yeah he he had a tremendous year a really really tremendous year and we’re so captivated all of us included with scoring and the amount of points he was putting up back to back to back and you know I think he tied up Michael Jordan’s record for most consecutive 40-point games and uh one player or not Todd he was right behind it part me because somebody like it isn’t Todd I know he had five five and I think he was right behind Mike I think course either way tremendous year really really tremendous year but we ought to realize that he had to do that to win and that’s what it took for them to win you got so many players injured on the Knicks I’m not saying he can’t do it with Julius Randle there other players there it’s just that his shot um amount of shots he gets is going to be less because randle’s gonna need his shots and even chenzo is going to need some shots next year and I’m not saying he can’t do it but he’s going to distribute the balore but when he was scoring them points he needed to score them points for for the new for the Knicks to win and everybody get so caught up like Antman Ain have 45 times or uh what your man Shay gild Alexandra this is New York fans he ain’t have 40 17 times like some and sudden I’m like BR they have a little better team than the next because y’all are depleted and y’all are hurt so they get so caught up with the numbers and not paying to Jason Tatum he had a great team he has a great team nobody from the Boston Celtics was even chosen in the final race for MVP because the team is too good you couldn’t really single out one person who dominated all year uh whether it’s Jaylen Brown whether some days is uh Jason Tatum which we know are the top two players but Al Harford stepped up Derek White had an amazing year and they have a complete team they don’t win I don’t know what the [ __ ] is going on it might be a black cat up there in Boston as well but to say take Jason Tatum out no nobody was even close to the Boston Celtics when it came to their record at the end of the season so I totally disagree right and then the other argument is that there’s only one American listed on the all NBA first team so how do you guys feel about that there’s only one American yeah Jason Tatum where where’s Brunson oh from yeah the first team first team yeah that we knew that already though we knew that already I wouldn’t be surprised if next year it’s no Americans because you got to think next year they’ll be adding wimy so it might not be any Americans think of that for a moment because we can all see whimy being added to that list the way they the way bo ball put it this is this is the direction they’re going so if they already had him up for defensive play of the year now he’s um all first team rookie next year if he does those same numbers and they win half more games than they did last time if they win half of the Season then I could really see them trying to vote for him as MVP not mad at that Suman I think Antman I have something to say about that though as well yeah he will and then last St that I think is interesting so at 25 Luca was named to his fifth all NBA first team selection this is more than Steph Curry Dirk nitzky Kevin Garnett and Moses Malone what do you guys think about that stat where you get Moses Malone from though that’s theist y’all oh my goodness that that’s what I mean by gas flight I’m not not you throw people in there that you know people care care about so they can say something crazy so they could feel offended is that called gaslighting no I don’t wouldn’t consider that gaslighting what do you consider it gaslighting like making somebody feel as if what they’re doing is like not okay I guess I don’t I’m not gaslighting you okay just reading names and getting you guys’ thoughts all right so Moses Malone zeph Curry Dirk nitzky and Kevin Garnett he has more NBA that’s great company that’s great company and especially um when you talk about being over these people and being able to pass them up is it says saying a lot that mean he’s going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer that’s what it says to me par me I was saw of DT nnsky I don’t know what year how was D nnsky when he got to the NBA for me um what we did say is everybody that I name and I don’t know how old D Linsky was everybody that we named on the list went to college 20 he was 20 yeah so that’s what I’m trying to say he uh he had more time than everybody else outside of Dirk but everybody went to college on that list you didn’t say LeBron James you didn’t say Kobe Bryant because them [ __ ] came out of high school and they had more time to make allstar game so the players that you named spent time in college as when Luca came to the NBA the day he was available to come to the NBA at 19 years old so that’s what I’ll have to say that’s why you had to go so far back to Moses Malone because because you’re not no no no I’m just saying because not you I’m just saying because you if you name [ __ ] like that like who who like that they came from high school until they changed the rule Luka didn’t have to go to okay let us know you guys’ thoughts on the list we’re going to go to break when we return we will discuss the ringer top 25 list of players under 25 don’t go anywhere she call this thing about toxic years cting got you feeling like option maybe I’m My Own problem Bab she tired of here and I don’t know my stubb and me won’t dealing with this thing called trust but she really thinking about Want to Be Free welcome back now let’s get into our Underdog fantasy picks of the day so we know the Celtics will play the Pacers Underdog fantasy has Jason Tatum at eight first quarter points do you have him higher or lower mace um um lower lower hey Jaylen Brown is at seven rebounds you have them higher lower cam lower yeah lower he and Halle Burton is at 32 and a half points rebounds and assists do you have them higher or lower mace points rebounds and assist higher how many 32 and a half right download the underdog fantasy app and you can make your picks too so the ringer released their list of the top 25 best players in the NBA age 25 and under I’m going to name the top 10 so one is wemy two Anthony Edwards three SGA four Luca five Tyrese halberton six Tyrese Maxi seven Chad eight Jaylen Williams nine Paulo Ben Caro and then tennis tied with Zion and jaw Morant do you guys see any issue with the list or does it seem pretty solid to you this list is disrespectful yo there’s no way you got J number 10 like for real like I don’t I don’t understand who makes these lists up yo y’all gota y’all gotta ask the expert if y’all going to be making list you got to check in with me check in with killer cuz this this list is crazy man I I can only IM imagine if if this was a coach putting this team up and said this was the team you’re like yo bro how does musty TV end up number 10 jar is tied with Zion no Zion is after jar do you do you do you at least agree with that killer yes yeah this [ __ ] Zion is not better than J right now I think we live and not to cut you I want you to finish what you’re saying live in a short tension span it’s like not have in [ __ ] brain they ain’t seen Johnson’s ozar came on last time they haven’t seen him in a long time so yeah J come on J you gotta come back and kill these [ __ ] J for real they got you number 10 playing with your name got you behind Jaylen Williams there people you shouldn’t be behind even I know tyres Maxi had a great year tyres Maxi nor Tyrese halberton want any smoke with j j name should have been number five right after um Alexander and Alexander should have been after Luca and Luca should be after wimy and wimy should be after Anthony Edwards Anthony Edwards should be at the top of this list I don’t they need to do the sliss over yo I got to call them tomorrow who got a them on the people from the ringer I need to talk with them this is this is crazy so this is in summary right you think Ant-Man should be first you think that jaw should be around number five Maxi Jaylen William jayd dub you put them all under him under John marant and then you think Zion is good at number 10 yeah let me ask you this killer and let me ask you stat as well do you think the year you’ve seen you’re ready to say that Maxi is better than John Marin just yes or no I don’t even know explanation either yes or no what do you think stat Tyrese Maxi is not better than John Mor but given the season that he had that’s what I’m sure they’re the list that they’re going off of okay all right you killer I don’t think that he’s better than them but they definitely more durable you’re not available then you’re not available this is the third year in a row that and I know they was eliminated from the playoffs but he’s hurt when the playoffs come and we seen what happened when Jordan p uh grabbed his knee it was [ __ ] up and then he’s hurt again and now this year he got hurt before the playoffs and you know he gets in trouble so you don’t see them and then you’re like well these [ __ ] Ain’t Bad that we watching you know what I’m saying they all right cam moved on to new hotness J make sure you kill maxi for cam kill him for cam if you make sure you throw extra dunk on on Maxi for killer I never said that I just said I started off everything I said with John morance a better player than them but if he’s not available he’s not available so I started off that he’s a better player I want to watch John Morant probably second after Kyrie Irving in for especially in terms of entertainment like you just said he’s definitely must see TV absolutely um I’m not mad at the order that you had said either I would put Ant-Man one um let me look at this I would have yeah you can’t have J down there with [ __ ] like Scotty Barnes and yeah Kade cunan come on yeah I would I would definitely have him Scotty barondes is dead nice but I’m saying you don’t put J I may I may matter of fact I may have Luca number one and Edwards too and then I yeah and then I put uh shade three and then I I might put J for I might put J for that’s the killer I know you back killer I never left murder you don’t want title 10 you’re on the move with title 10 you back you back now [ __ ] you back you on the move with title 10 there a lot of people that’s really good on this list that uh that you know even Jaylen Trey young is on this list and not in the top 10 it’s a lot of good it looks really it looks bright for the NBA I’ll say that yeah in no disrespect to Scotty Barnes I really like him as a player um what I did look at this list and say Chad has really Chad is Chad is starting to really make a name for himself like one of those players I think he’s going to be really one of those players no further comment okay yeah and I don’t know the list I I’m a little back and forth Wy being number one so you guys both disagree with him being at one yeah this is that whole this is what bo ball was talking about like any list they come up with they trying their best in anything it’s starting to be obvious y’all any list they come up with wmy is somewhere in there that that would be a good skit all you Instagram grandom comedians make the wmy skit it it wouldn’t matter if it was blocks if it’s most minutes played somehow they trying to put wmy on that award I gotta agree with that because wmy is at the top of every list and even just looking at the rest of it I mean even like to me like Tyrese Maxi and Paulo both definitely proved themsel this season so I think that they do deserve a higher slot but my last person that I am going to ask you about is jayen Williams jdub OKC him being at eight are you guys okay with his position there or you think that he should be higher or lower I think Jaylen I think Jaylen Williams did his thing okay um yeah that’s interesting but I don’t think he’s um better than Ben Carol actually agree yeah yeah so this is really a political list and I don’t like looking at list and even a lady can look at it and say you know what this is not that your it’s okay your take doesn’t matter not that you wasn’t journalist of the year it’s okay let me take that back I’m cool I promise I’m not let me take that back in in real time but when everybody can see that this is off that’s what I really meant to say when everybody can see that this is all this is bad journalism it looks too biased we can tell you said what you meant to say originally this is go back to the kicker from yesterday yeah I knew you was to say that I felt that too yeah yeah it’s from the kicker yesterday I told you I know this [ __ ] for real she fighting it with his he only fighting himself every day watch what you say murder you’re Mason you don’t even realize [ __ ] said even even a woman man yeah cuz I mean when they can see it it’s bad because you double back down I meant it I meant it in a different way though I’m I’m using the wrong words but but what’s so funny I have to say this what’s so funny is when you’re about to say something I already know because you be like it’s like a long pause and you be smiling like looking at like what I’m GNA say and I’m like I already know what you’re GNA say you don’t have to tell me what you’re GNA say cuz I already know what you’re about to say and it’s okay I think it’s I think it’s obvious that they they made a bad list you know um I’m not mad at him on this list he averaged 19 point points four and a half rebounds four assists on the number one team in the west nobody had Oklahoma City coming in on the number one team in the west and as much as we love Shay nobody could do it alone Michael Jord can’t do it alone Kobe Bryan can’t do it alone shaquill O’Neal can’t do it alone um and we have yet to see anybody do this alone so if he’s second fiddle I don’t want to use word not like that trying to play you my [ __ ] but if you’re the second goto on the team that’s number one in the west averaging close to 20 points I’m not mad at him for making this list it’s tough as we the West is um who are you talking about talking about James for OKC you said that you didn’t think he should make the list I was saying I’m not mad at him being in the top 10 list because he he’s the second goto he’s averaging nearly 20 points and not only that he’s shooting 54% from the field over 50% on the number one team in the west as much as I was saying that we thought Golden State may make a run the Lakers may make a run the Suns may make a run Denver’s in the west we was looking forward to seeing what Sacramento may come back and do I don’t think anybody at the beginning of the season um outside of Vegas may have [ __ ] known people the faithful in Oklahoma City may have known that they were coming in number one the west but I had absolutely no idea whatsoever so um I’m not mad at him making that list if we’re going off this year and then last question I promise I’m not asking this because I am a Heat fan it is in discussions this is why I’m asking a player that did not make the top 25 list of players under 25 is Tyler hero do you guys feel like he should be on the list or not he’s not in the top 25 in your opinion that’s a good question looking at this list he could be in this list but I’m not mad that he’s not cuz I’m looking at who the only person I could think he would get the spot of is 25 Jabari Smith other than that um there’s nobody on here Jared Jackson nope lamelo ball nope um Jaylen green definitely not Desmond bang nope Brandon Miller nope um it’s probably two spots I see two spots that he could possibly be in there and that that would be an argument and this is why like what killer said the best of ability is availability and him not being available hurts his chances so now I kind of see that when we was saying about John and hindsight but if he talking Talent he could be in there you know it’s basically even like what we were saying this list really depends on if we’re talking about overall their career up until now we’re talking about this year so if we’re talking about this year Josh shouldn’t be on the list if we’re talking about this year maybe Tyler should be on maybe he shouldn’t but he was hurt the previous year hurt Miami’s chances of going and then the heat didn’t have this the best year that they could have this year to just pass so he wasn’t talked about that much and then you go on the back of a milk carton because we’re not in Miami covering you we’re just covering what’s the best teams and not saying the best but we’re covering and everything um top to bottom PA and in between but if you’re not a topic to talk about then we gonna say should he make this list you know that’s the question so I can’t answer should he make this list or not because even me scrolling going through the list uh briefly I would have to go through everybody because there players down there at at 1819 that you be like damn this [ __ ] is nice this [ __ ] is good the list is not a bad list I don’t I just don’t like the of the list I’m just but the players they have in there are really good should Tyler hero be in there or not I can’t answer that question because I didn’t pay that much attention to him this year okay and then there is a tweet circulating talking he did average 20 20 points though 44% from the field five assists five rebounds so the number-wise it wasn’t bad but but it that it make the heat better yeah canny just turned 24 in January so I don’t know let us know what you guys think about it in the in the comments Pat rowy told him [ __ ] you ain’t you always hurt [ __ ] yeah Pat Ry says stop playing with [ __ ] man get on the court maybe you might make the list Pat Ry went off for [ __ ] so if Pat Ry got a problem with him I got a problem with him fair okay so there was another tweet circulating around talking about NBA nicknames back then versus today so talking about how Dwayne Wade was the flash Kobe Bryant was Mamba and Paul Pierce was the truth but nowadays and names are just Anthony Edwards being ant SGA being literally SGA Kevin Durant being KD so the question was where did the creativity go so what do you guys think about just NBA nicknames players marketability things of that nature um I think a lot of the the creativity some of it was lost with social media just people trying to get handles pause so they just start with once they saw CP3 CP3 was a dope one then after that everybody just start trying to make their name go with their numbers and stuff like that I think that had a lot to do with it I think that the players with the nicknames back then aren’t their nickname and people may not just get that feeling pause when they watch these players when you sit there and what look as much as y’all people younger players I’m talking about not players younger people in general and see Paul Pierce whing out with the strippers or drinking or saying some crazy [ __ ] from time to time the man was nice he didn’t he wasn’t called the truth for no reason cuz they would have took the name away like he wasn’t called The Truth For Nothing Allan averson wasn’t called the answer he wasn’t the self-proclaimed averson a lot of times these players wasn’t giving their self the nickname people were giving them people were earning the nickname uh that was given to him you know like when I played in 55th Mur I was the All American you know you go to 55th that’s where you really get the nickname too when you play up there and you might take it with you wherever you go but I think nobody’s really paying attention to how people are playing and that’s where the nickname goes out the window not saying that they’re not playing aggressive or or dope but you know Kobe ain’t just get the name Mamba PA for nothing [ __ ] yeah it was really those names like Action Jackson yeah yeah he yeah he he had the yeah actually [ __ ] said pause murder when you say action Jack a quiet be the [ __ ] on your own be the [ __ ] on your own team that was a good catch though I was W ation Jackson yeah catch was wild too yeah that’s your man why you me I a say nothing I ain’t even say nothing but um that’s up to the players and the fans and the people if they want to give players nicknames cool if you don’t want a nickname fine but I don’t think any of these nicknames were so proclaimed yeah you’re right killer yeah PA Glenn big big dog Davis and he got that name from big baby yeah yeah going crazy oh you talking about Big Dog yeah yeah that’s yeah that’s what I’m saying when he’s a too going crazy you know what I’m saying so um I don’t know to be honest with you that’s kind of a great question because who starts giving [ __ ] nicknames because if you try to make up your own nickname and it don’t go right [ __ ] Gonna clown you like like the goat I’m not I’m not dissing The Goat nickname I’m dissing when you be saying you play off p and then you don’t get to the championship so [ __ ] be like what is he talking about this playoff P made up playoff p yeah that’s what I’m trying to tell you um Paul I’m not trying to diss you Tony corers and Mike Wilborn and all them other the world be like where’s this playoff P name coming from so I’m just want you to know you gotta live up to that because they on your ass [ __ ] pause like when they said King James he lived up to it yeah it matter it matters yeah when when you’re Air Jordan you you fly like this for so Dame time yeah Splash Brothers yeah all that they ain’t they earn their name yeah exactly exactly 100% okay and then last topic before we wrap this has just been a very trending topic among just everybody and now especially that like LeBron spoke about it it’s just back and forth conversation so LeBron started speaking about Caitlyn Clark’s impact on the WNBA he said Caitlyn Clark is the reason why a lot of great things is going to happen for the WNBA I’m rooting for Caitlyn because I’ve been in that seat before so Charles Barkley decided to take the stage out a postgame interview and bring up what LeBron said and he said you women out there y’all are Petty LeBron you are 100% right on these girls hating on Caitlyn Clark y’all petty girls y’all should be thinking that girl for getting y’all’s asses a private Charter and all the money invisibility she’s bringing into the WNBA don’t be Petty like dudes said that Charles Barkley Charles Charles you taking my takes now what’s going on fact I can’t even argue with that you’re right oh my goodness got to be more vocal pause man n just running with the glow I can’t do nothing what you think killer I said that like a week ago definitely did you said it more than once and it was longer than a week ago like that’s why it I had to bring yeah you you definitely and you said it more than one time that’s probably why they canceling the show as a TNT man can’t be what they call this in college plagerism you can’t take that man quote like that and do that and not not sight him on it right at least killer say b ball voice right come on man don’t be don’t be afraid to just throw the expert a little you know little credit course I love Charles Barkley but that was my take they try to give it to LeBron they try to get LeBron my credit come on I’m a walk off killer sure man killer call a [ __ ] tell him what he doing man all right let me hear Let me hear real quick what did LeBron say and then I want to hear what Charles LeBron said Caitlyn Clark is the reason why a lot of great things are gonna happen for the WNBA I’m rooting for Caitlyn because I’ve been in that seat before and then Charles Barkley let’s start right there that’s not your tape Charles Barkley took your tape now let’s hear what Charles Barkley has to say yeah he said cuz you haven’t been in that seat before he said cut that okay Barkley said you woman out there y’all petty man LeBron you’re 100% right on these girls hating on Caitlyn Clark y’all petty girls y’all should be thanking that girl for getting y asses private Charters and all the money and visibility she’s bringing into the WNBA don’t be Petty like dudes so mace LeBron didn’t take your take Charles Barkley de okay okay yeah stop trying to throw high on yeah man was at the pro yeah man chill out bro [ __ ] continuously say t murder what’s up and this what you do continuously tell that [ __ ] Braun I said what’s up all man shout out to King James but yeah as far as what Charles Bley said they said this already so I can’t you know I even hate to say that he said it but he kind of said that it ain’t verbatim but it’s mad close it’s mad close and that’s what plagiarism is all about right take your take your your your essay and then change a few words yeah somebody else’s work you you made a hot line he made a hot song yeah you fell out with an artist over there yeah that’s what I’m telling you cut the music off yeah man yeah you had to cut the music off on yeah yeah man listen I I dig man I dig man yeah okay well in the comments let us know if you guys think Ma’s take was plagiarized but that’s all the time that we have for today thanks for watching and as always it is what it is [Music] care what you want [ __ ] everything [ __ ] Super Size Big Max like when they doing them two for