Top 24 Dynasty EDGEs | 2024 IDP Fantasy Football

If one position has seen an influx of talent in recent years, it’s edge rusher. The highest-paid position on defense is deep with talent both young and old. So in dynasty startup drafts, who are the EDGEs you want? That’s what Josh, Adam, and Bobby endeavor to find out in this episode. Using Adam’s dynasty rankings as the guide, they go through the top 24 dynasty edge rushers, place them into tiers, sort out the buys from the sells, and discuss guys who just missed the cut for this list.

0:00 Nonsense Ramblings
7:46 Tier 1: Nick Bosa, Micah Parsons, Aidan Hutchinson, Will Anderson
21:40 Tier 2: Maxx Crosby, TJ Watt, Myles Garrett, Josh Allen
29:05 Tier 3: Dallas Turner, Brian Burns, Laiatu Latu, Jaelan Phillips, Danielle Hunter, Jared Verse
44:02 Tier 4: Kayvon Thibodeaux, George Karlaftis, Montez Sweat, Rashan Gary, Alex Highsmith
50:43 Tier 5: Greg Rousseau, Bryce Huff, Jermaine Johnson, Jonathan Greenard, Travon Walker

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taste test that was a good one link that into the uh description of the YouTube Josh I will not but thank you for your suggestion welcome in y’all like we said top 24 Dynasty edges we are going to be doing the top 24 edges top 24 DBS and then the top 48 linebackers so uh we know yall yall love linebackers so we’re going to dive a little deeper on them but tonight we are kicking off the top Dynasty assets with the edge rushers and this is a lot of fun Addie putting together the list which is pulled from your dynasty rankings avail able for paid supporters over at the IDP show.com we are # blessed with an influx of Edge Edge Talent right now both NFL and IDP wise yeah we are in a very good spot uh very reminiscent of wide receivers if you’re looking for the offensive parallel um yeah load it up I mean 24 like we’re going to leave you know this is just the top 24 we’re going to leave a lot of people off in this episode we might have a lot of people in the comments upset with us but but uh I apologize it’s just the League’s in good shape right now lot of young on a lot of goodin uh and even you know a lot of super stars that’re you know aging and and uh you know getting close to 30 so um a little bit of everything for you out there um so fun fun fun time to play Dynasty oh yeah yeah a lot of people at different points in their career as you look throughout this list babo yeah hashtag mower thought this weekend you know Matt judon or Trayvon Walker scores more points points in 2024 there’s a lot of those guys where it’s like is Trayvon going to take a step is judon going to take a step back um you’re right there’s a lot of people on their way out but there’s also a lot of a lot of young new guys that that we hope you know hope to see Aiden Hutchinson take maybe another step this next year hope to see some some guys On The Fringe as well Greg rouso like to see him take a step um um I almost says Aziz oari we know that step has you know he’s off in the yeah uh I was 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for the ball lotion and get the I don’t think people like I don’t think people like the manscaped ads yeah it was too much for me and also I don’t yeah it’s just four and a half minute ad reads it was a lot to get through they changed them every every two weeks that was the thing I hated way too long yeah yeah just just tone it back just a little bit Yeah so there you go folks uh I’ll make sure to put in the uh YouTube timestamps nonsense rambling for all the folks who just apies we’re not done he’s done yes this could go on we could get some golf talk in here so but what we’re going to do hey I play disc golf tournament this weekend see that pretty well the best rounds of your life proud of you Bob very proud sorry Jos uh we’re going to go through we have five tiers and Adam has broken his top 24 down into five tiers so like I mentioned we’ll throw out the names in each tier and then we’ll go a little deeper on some of these guys that kind of stand out so boys let’s kick things off in tier number one and we are starting off with Nick Bosa Micah Parsons Aiden Hutchinson and Will Anderson Addie I think you might get a little bit of I don’t want to say flak but some questions some comments on the YouTubes couple Young Guns in here a couple big names out of tier one but let’s start right at the top Nick Bosa number one overall Edge tell me why stud absolute stud I mean crushes it PFF wise uh he has never we look at career um 92.2 overall PFF grade last year 90.6 in 2022 89.4 in 2021 tours ACL in 2020 89.8 overall PFF as a rookie pressure rate out of control um let me look and see what we have career watch for Nick Bosa we have a I have 16.3 here in 16.3 career that’s one of the best um among all these guys like michah Parsons has a really good one 19.7 will get there but I mean that’s that’s better than that’s better than Max Crosby that’s better than TJ Watt that’s better than Miles Garrett now those guys do have more reps but Nick Bose is prolific man and uh I think that he’s going to continue to get better I mean I think that we I think last year he had a bit of a Down year um remember he he didn’t start the season normal I think he he missed all of all of the offseason pretty much it was a contract situation right just signed the 5year $170 million deal I think he even missed week one maybe yeah we can go back and look but anyway I he just wasn’t locked in last year um this year I I I I feel like it’s it’s going to be a much better situation they even got him some more help we got Leonard Floyd joining the squad um they brought someone else in too didn’t they yes I think so I’m blanking but um well they brought back um no it was the guy uh Clen frell well did they bring back far it was gross Matos gross Matos I was like is it caon Chon is it yeets yeah yeah um and then Hargrave I feel like he’s going to have a better year you know that was his first year there in San Fran last year so I just love Nick Bosa man I think he is he’s so good and uh so slept on if you look at at um points per game uh for the last four years uh never mind we’re not going to do that Josh we’re not going to do that we’re not going here here we go here found it 15.3 points per game in 2023 20.6 in 2022 17.4 in 2021 and then uh 2020 is wi towards the ACL so we’re not going to disc not going to count that against him but I mean he he dude’s crushing it I mean I I think you can um I don’t think you can have them outside the top four but I mean honestly the the the list is so good man like I’m not going to argue with you if if if you want to put Parsons one or if you want to put Crosby one you know yeah that’s interesting discussion babo Addy has Nick Bosa Edge one who’s your Edge one let me tell you these points per game 2020 22.8 21 26.3 22 15.8 23 22.7 I think that we could be seeing the beginnings of the last four years um for TJ watt I’m not saying TJ watt’s going out I’m saying I think you could see Nick bosa’s points per game entering that t J watts last fouryear category where he was around 20 21 22 23 points per game um Nick Bosa is the 101 to me um I think I think there are cases to be made for other people but I feel like Nick Bosa is by far the safest and also has still room to grow you know 26 years old he’s a year and a half older than Parson which I don’t really that doesn’t I’m not knocking that too much um I still think Bosa could take a step as he gets closer to age 30 yeah so you’re going Bosa Edge one mine would be Hutchinson okay I would have Hutch as the edge one just because of the age 23.7 years old uh going as the he was the edge six 2023 finish going Edge The Edge Edge six right now according to our ADP so um points per game 2023 16.7 went ballistic into of the season had like a four or five game sack streak so end of the season hot I love to see that I love that Detroit team I love the coaching staff I love the culture so um again I don’t I would not fault anyone I don’t fault you all for having Bose set one if you wanted to put Will Anderson at one or Parsons at one I mean anyone in this top tier I think has a strong case for 101 I think a lot of people would probably have Max Crosby number one I was going to say I think he will be the one that we will get the most Flack for I think so and and I’ll go ahead and explain that I mean I’m a little worried about Max Crosby quite honestly the guy has played a lot of snaps for being as young as he is he’s he’s you know you look at the age and it’s not that big of a deal it’s he’s 20 he has 20 26.8 so he’ll be 27 here pretty soon um but dude he he plays a ton like um I was comparing him to like uh TJ watt like he’s right there he’s way ahead of his of TJ watad snap Pace like easily and that’s that’s kind of how it is for every single have we seen a snap Pace like his since he came into the league no no and um I know his his pressure rate and the PFF numbers have have have declined a little bit um but I that’s also due to volume I think I mean the guy just plays a ton so I wouldn’t look too much into that but I just I just worry about the mileage um there is there’s a there’s better competition out there too I mean um you got Christian Wilkins there in the middle Tyree Wilson is he going to take a step Malcolm Co I like him quite a bit yep so um I don’t know I just feel like we’ve we’ve probably seen the Peak from Max Crosby and I am worried like if if he were to get hurt or something like that you know he is going as the uh overall 101 in baseball drafts right now so I think the folks will be like where’s Mad Max well and you know Lauren put me on to this last year but you know a majority of the Season Max played with a pretty good knee injury yeah and you know that knee stuff kind of starts to crank up what happens when you’re playing 95% of snaps and it’s hard pretty much every game oh yeah and he’s someone that will play through stuff so like you he his situation get could get worse yeah um don’t give that stuff time to rest it gets a it gets to be an issue any any consideration for Will Anderson over Aiden Hutchinson sure yeah I mean that I have Anderson four um but I mean I I I think there’s a a a very real situation where I could have Anderson number one next year I think that’s if I was going to pick a guy pick a guy to be when we have this conversation next year the The Edge one who’s not the edge one right now that would be my pick yeah I really anticipate all these guys points per game to go up so will Anderson 11.5 and 23 Hutchinson 16.7 Parson 16.6 Nick Bosa 26.6 whereas you look at like not to Peak behind the curtain too much but at least in the dynasty ranks the next three edges Max Crosby’s points per game in 23 19.3 TJ watt 22.7 miles Garrett 17.2 so I think with the um you know with the age with the a not athleticism but with the uh the maturity you know with the growth in the sport understanding the uh you know understanding the defense a little bit better understanding pass rushing better I think you’re going to see um all of these guys excel in points per game this year and I think you’re going to see a couple of them sniff that that 20 points per game category Parsons needs to be paid right yes he does he’s holding out right now so just a just something to keep keep your eye on I mean what’s going on with Jerry Jones in Dallas right now not paying Dak not paying CD not paying Mah Parsons it’s a little weird it’s a little weird what’s happening in Dallas right now I think Mah Parsons will get paid yeah but um well because Jerry Jones has historically paid his guys above Market rate I just don’t know what’s going on right now man well and then there’s kind of in a funk that after the day one him just like gushing about Jonathan Brooks and his son like dude you just want to show him the whole board or like what yeah and then they bring Zeke back it’s just like what a mess Netflix documentary on him so he’s getting old man he’s got’s in the Twilight starting to slip a little bit so but I will say everyone in this top tier it feels like it is J very much jover uh are still ascending they are all I don’t think even including Nick Bosa I don’t think Bosa has hit his absolute ceiling yet I think he could even go up another level I really want to see another step from Parsons I’m still a little skeptical about Parsons 16.6 points per game in 2023 I think we will I I don’t think we’ve we’ve seen finished as the edge seven he came into the league as such a maniac you know that 19.7 points per game in 23 is hard to look away from um he’s got to do some more for me to be the 101 I feel like part and that’s going to be a little hot TIY too there’s a lot of people that’s like I can’t believe y’all don’t have Parson just the 101 see I kind of feel like the the IDP streets Twitter streets are a little bit down on parsons’s yeah maybe maybe I’m just you know following the wrong people but um I don’t think so you don’t see a lot of Michael Parson steals no one’s really getting rid of him agreed and he cost a lot yeah if you’re in a league that you know that makes sense but I think people are feeling that like I feel like Parson should be just a little bit better I think so yeah I think you’re feeling that fatigue a little bit but people should stop that cuz he’s he’s incredible I mean he really is in the pressure rate he he was out of control last year I think he was number one in pressure rate 19.7 that’s so yeah I mean I I feel great about Parsons also that I mean he’s got a good situation too you know um Demarcus Lawrence still there uh Bob’s boy Osa oh OA Marshon neand I’m kind of a fan of of him I’ve been getting him a lot at the end of these drafts um after the drafts are over on waivers Sam Williams is he gonna take another step it’s just Sam Williams there you lost Dante Fowler you lost dorrence Armstrong so that room is suddenly pretty thin now yeah um so nean I like yeah is a nice stash because he’s won Demarcus Lawrence injury away from probably getting some healthy healthy amount of snaps how long was Dan Quinn the DC there like three years I think whole time yeah yep interesting so we’ll see how he adjusts to a new defensive coordinator maybe Quinn made him maybe we’ll see he’ll be a prodct Quinn any of those guys y’all are trading um sure I mean if someone wants to come give me some some high picks or something like that yeah I’ll definitely these are all guys you’re moving for first rounders yeah have I need a first offensive studs like certified 25 stud what rookie pick would you be willing to pay for Will Anderson it’s let’s say it’s a uh let’s do superflex I think a lot of people like super Flex leaks um what are you are you parting with a first round pick for Will Anderson in this class yes any of them yes and how low are you going you going to give up the 108 which I’ve gotten Brock Bowers at 108 Brock Bowers or will Anderson that’s a great question that’s probably Brock just because of positional SC with tight end you know but I mean wouldn’t fault you if you wanted the Will Anderson side I think that’s I think that’s where you start thinking about it something that’s interesting also if you sub to uh to the show the IDP show.com in the ranks are Adam’s trade value um so right now let’s just say if you moved Will Anderson um Adam you’ve got him as a first and a third so that’d be interesting if you moved him for the 109 grabbed a guy like Bowers grabbed a guy like heck OD dun Brian Thomas Xavier worthy Benson whatever Brooks uh and then even in the third you can go and get Dallas Turner Jared verse yeah if I could cash out for that I would definitely do it yeah is it as appealing in one QB leagues um absolutely 10 109 I think so because I do like the I mean that could be Jonathan Brooks that could be Keon Coleman lad makoni herea now the third is not going to be great yeah I’m thinking I’m holding Will Anderson if that’s the package in one QB Le I would probably want a little more I would I would want a second yeah I want a first and a second I think so and a one QB yes super Flex super Flex I’ll take a first and a third and third which is what the the ranks are and if you have the second and one QB or yeah one QB I’m just doubling down two offensive picks yeah I’m probably not going to get Dallas Turner in the second never know should what if you get the Will Anderson replacement but I mean man there’s still some good offense in that second round you know one of the top wide receivers off the board boy I feel good about Dallas Turner let talk about uh the next tier because in the next tier after that is Dallas Turner but in tier number two we talked about him a little bit earlier it is Max Crosby TJ watt miles Garrett and Josh Allen so the top two tiers both have four players again tier number one Nick Bosa Micah Parsons Aiden Hutchinson Will Anderson tier number two Mad Max Crosby TJ watt miles Garrett Josh Allen my ball kick it over to you first oh boy who do you want to talk about from this four pack um I want to talk about Josh Allen let’s do it because I love Josh Allen and um he’s been an anomaly to me in Dynasty the last couple years um he just gets paid but he is now 28 years old um finishes The Edge 5 and 23 uh 18.1 won points per game in 2023 has to be the best um season of his career I don’t know if his I don’t know if his rookie years is in the um is in here it’s probably not um but 89.5 overall PFF grade um 17 tfl 17 and a half sacks the guy was amazing I just you know he’s a great cell right now yeah he is I think I’m if anyone in this top eight I’m most eager to cash out on it’s Josh yeah he’s um he’s a guy that 17 and a half sex great for bball really good for bball cuz he’s he’s he’s quite boom bus and you can get him at a little bit of a value I feel like um Edge seven he’s going basically as like that first rounder yeah he’s a he’s a player never mind just saw that so scratch scratch that can you can you delete that Josh no I can’t you know I can’t can’t do it I don’t know Josh Allen just seems old 28 years old just to get your contract how many years was he franchised once I don’t think he was franchise tagged was he he was franchise tagged but they got the deal done I got you so they got the deal done um yeah 5year 141 million so he got paid H just a you’re coming off what might be his best season ever of his career so just makes me a little nervous yep yeah I mean this tier is is really about the age I mean Max Crosby didn’t because like I mentioned the mileage and I’ll get to that in just a second but I mean the age of these guys Max Crosby he’s 27 TJ watt’s going to be 30 miles Garrett’s 28 and a half Josh Allen is 28 now like I was talking earlier about the snaps this is this is uh pretty interesting here um Edie you got to make your font not a I know I’m sorry I just got I just got so much stuff in here guys you need some spectacles got to cram it all in here so we got to we got to get it small this font got to cram it all in that’s right you know you know what I’m talking about I do indeed that’s right all right so max Crosby he has played 2,950 career pass snaps TJ watt has played 3,084 gez um he Max Crosby has played again 2950 Josh all has played 2,125 so just a massive difference in snaps lot of mileage lot of mileage for TJ and for Max and Max is is you know he he’s starting to break down a little bit we’ he had some surgeries this offseason yes we every offseason we know we know the gangster stuff is concerning you where he’s smoking cigars and he’s just kind of feeling he seems feeling himself a little bit I think he’s uh I have seen some clips of the Pod he does seem like he’s uh he’s getting a little better and uh maybe chilling out a little bit so that’s good the Pod seems good think these athletes are taking over the Pod game yep I think he was really feeling himself at the end of last season basically strong arming Mark Davis and to hiring Antonio Pierce say the head coach so if you want to know who the most powerful person in the building is it is Max Crosby it is in Las Vegas him and muu did a pod recently did they oh wow yeah cuz it was uh that was the what little ass boy comment or something and then he’s like M Max is so angry that’s how menu really is though it’s it’s uh it’s weird yeah he’s a bro very broish he’s a very very much a bro interesting uh Josh Allen a good sale right now Addie what do you think oh yeah oh yeah I think this this whole list right here is a is a pretty good sale honestly these are these are Contender pieces yes you know Crosby’s still 26.8 years old Josh Allen’s got two years on Crosby yep that’s so interesting and then uh Trent Jordan watt as you have him in the dynasty ranks which is one of my favorite quirks of uh he deserves it well I think he is he’s awesome he’s for me I want him he is best ball 101 I think he is the 101 in best ball I’ve had the 101 I think in one draft this year this offseason took TJ watt no questions asked Dynasty wise I think I’d rather shoot for everyone else on this list just scared right just a little we we know about the injury history we know about the injury history with his brother too um so I mean that that’s in the back of of everyone’s mind um and he’s just getting up there in age I mean if the more injuries that continue to happen the less I mean the more and more value is going to keep going down so um I’m just not not trying to invest too heavily in assets like that you want to get get out before get out the year a year ahead of time I think so don’t get out a year too late yeah and so that’s I think all these guys you’re not we’re not a year away from them falling off the cliff but you just need to be thinking they’re I think these guys a lot of these guys are closer to the end than the beginning right the value is not going up for these guys it’s pretty much at a plateau right now for TJ for Miles Garrett for Mad Max and that’s really the the main thought that everyone need to take away with Mad Max I’m pretty sure we’re at the peak mhm so or we’re past the peak cuz he’s playing like 100% of snaps bro it’s not like there’s some untapped upside here with ma the production I don’t know that I don’t know that that production is sustainable mhm and he’s got competition for tackles now too in Christian Wilkins M so I mean Christian Wilkins had a lot of tackles that’s been what’s really made M uh Max extremely valuable asset too I mean that those tackles like dude almost put up 100 tackles last year you play 100 snaps yeah you’re liable to get that many tackles yeah yeah the U miles Garrett let’s not gloss over him he feels like he always gets a little slept on in these conversations just feels like um he um he had a bad second half he got hurt too but same thing with him you know I mean he’s 28 now I I don’t think that I don’t think we’re going to see maybe he has maybe he reaches another level pressure rate 13.6 that’s career right uh yeah I think so in the notes Here Edge Edge 8 was uh his finish in 2023 going as the edge five right now yeah so love love Max Garrett or miles Garrett that would be a sick combo that would be a sick that would be real cool Max Garrett love the name too 100% is s miles Garrett with just the max Crosby arms yes and without the helmet swinging tendencies that would be great too let’s get to this next tier boys because I like um I personally like a lot of the guys in this tier I think this is where folks are going to start to go what cuz you’re already crowning a lot of these rookies oh yeah this is going to get me in trouble let’s go with Dallas Turner top of tier three Brian Burns Leu latu he is up on the wall folks Jaylen Phillips after latu denil Hunter and Jared verse round out this tier number three so again Dallas Turner Brian Burns Leu latu Jaylen Philips denal Hunter and Jared verse round out tier three um let’s talk about the rookies Addie I feel like that’s kind of the point of contention here you have always been I don’t want to say quick to Crown these guys but you’ve always been ahead of the curve in terms of the dynasty rankings and sort of projecting these dudes to be very valuable assets right out the gate you’ve got Dallas Turner as your Edge nine Leu latu as your Edge 11 and Jared verse as your Edge 14 speak on it you got to get out in front of it you know that’s a good way to put it if these guys come out here and ball immediately you ain’t getting them you know so they’re never going to be cheaper think about like all these guys uh Turner latu verse all of them are as cheap I think as they’ll ever be until like the end of their careers of course yeah till they become clil Max that’s uh yes they will be discount but I think those I think that’s the type these guys are I really really like these these top three um but I mean you got to you got to get them now otherwise they’re going to you know they’re going to be they’re going to be cing a first um I I I think I expect latu and verse to hit immediately like I I really am not worried about either one of those I think Dallas Turner you’re still going to have chances to maybe get in but um we also also maybe not dude we said there’s a chance he comes out and is the best Edge rusher for the Vikings day one and if he comes out and and he is uh awesome immediately like I think he’s going to be the most valuable of the group just because of the fact that he’s two years younger um just that right there Alabama all that stuff if you’re breaking TI look at age right doesn’t have the injury concerns like lotu right I mean so yeah but I love I love all these guys like I mean I you know I maybe I’ve been considered uh to throw some shade at latu because I I am such a fan of Dallas Turner but I love latu too man I think you’ve been a latu fan you comped him to Jaylen Phillips I mean I think that’s very appropriate yeah I just I did have to kind of put my flag on on Dallas Turner but I love these guys I like verse a lot too this top three in this rookie glass babo I I can’t think of I’ll go back through and kind of look while you guys are talking about the more recent draft classes the top edges this feels like maybe the best top three we’ve seen in a long time yeah so last year it was Tyree Wilson it was Anderson Will Anderson and then um maybe like Will McDonald Lucas vaness yep pretty good but carlus FAU miles Murphy there were there were seven Edge rushers in last year’s first round mixed bag but even prior to that like Trayvon Walker um Aiden huderson that’s a good class I think to compat to yeah yes um who was the Aiden and then Kavon Kon I think that’s a very good comp yeah I think so cuz you’ve got Kavon right in this next tier and then you probably like the Phillips the Jaylen Phillips class was okay too it’s like Jaylen Phillips Greg rouso um quy pay is gonna maybe be a bust yeah but there’s some other ones I’m probably missing this is a pretty nice pretty nice this nice and then what does chop Robinson turn into you know and then there’s we already mentioned neand razell so yeah I do like this class but I especially love it up up at the top but um yeah we’ll probably get slack for that but I mean we’ve got prettyy good track history uh track record on on on these guys like we’ve we’ve we’ve been pretty good about calling some of these guys out before they really pop and uh I feel the same way about this class and these three especially well tell me why these guys like what’s the downside case for these three rookies like where where how could you if you’re trying to poke holes I think we’ve acknowledged that Dallas Turner maybe third and snaps his rookie season right but even if that’s the case I don’t expect that to continue 2024 yep I was listening to a Rams pod this week and uh somebody with JB long I don’t remember who it was but they were basically saying how the whole Rams organization had forgotten what a first round like Edge rusher looks like and they were like Jared verse just like not only walking in the building but also like just in stupid non-padded OTAs you’re like this guy is just different you know he’s different than Michael Hoy no offense to Michael you know we appreciate you different than absolutely Byron young was a freak athlete also he’s just not the size of jarede going to be enamored with this guy man oh dude it’s going to be fun the last of the three drafted may get the most snaps because like they have no reason not to turn this guy loose everything that I’ve heard from Fisk also is that like and I I know it’s hype season for everybody so I I take everything with the grain of salt but a lot of the people that I trust are like Braden Fisk is as fast as he looked at the comb dud he looked awesome aome some of those clips I’ve been seeing recently he looks explosive I think that in a lot of my rookie drafts that y’all dummies aren’t in I will be passing on the top two I don’t have as much interest in Byron Murphy or uh Johnny Newton now with the injury stuff kind of going on DT yeah I agree man I’ll be holding on to a little fifth for Bren oh for the DTs gotcha okay got that’s a good call I mean I I just picked him up off waivers yeah he’s free I mean he’s free y abely we got our Saturday I don’t think Braden fist is going a five rounder one QB I think Bobby has a 509 his over two fist be three you may you may need three fifths to take kch get you kinchin and a fist aniverse but I mean all these guys just Primo spots so Josh uh you ranked that little tier rank the tier of uh Turner Burns latu Phillips Hunter verse so I would jump Hunter up to tier two in Josh Allen’s spot I’m a huge Anil Hunter Fan okay I don’t I think we are probably on that Plateau with denil Hunter but I I really want that Plateau especially in Houston opposite Will Anderson like I think we it’s hard to say that we could see another step after what denil Hunter just did if I offered you Dallas Turner for denal Hunter you doing it that’s a really really tough I know what I’m doing 21-year-old Dallas Turner old it’s context specific I’m going through the big I’m if I’m uh if I’m pushing for it this year I want Hunter but yeah otherwise I want Dallas Turner I think it’s really close though I think so I think you’re going to keep him in the teer he’s in right now no I would I would hop him up into that Josh Allen tier I love I’m not saying I kick Allen out of that tier you’re gonna hop old Turner up there too then yes I think I think you absolutely could I think you could put both Dallas Turner and uh denal Hunter up into we’re splitting hairs folks I mean these we got two these top 20 are awesome we got to help the one that I think is the big question mark is Jaylen Phillips yeah right I think that’s the one I can’t quite figure out right now because the Achilles I feel just scares me to death but I’m I’m I’m optimistic for Phillips I mean if anyone can come back it’s him uh we’ve said that many of times I mean he is still young when you said Carl Lawson’s name it just scared me to death it is definitely scary but what I love about Phillips is the fact that has seen himself be successful in the league I mean he was looking like one of the best pass rushers in the league before he tore the ailles so I’m hoping that he can just stay confident get that thing back to uh 90% you know of what it was if we get 90% Jaylen Phillips does he fit right here in this pecking order where he is is that what you’re is that what you’re kind of anticipating here with this ranking yeah I’m I’m I’m I’m saying I’m I’m thinking that he’s going to come back and be solid I mean we we’re not going to probably ever see 20 points per game Jaylen Phillips but I think we could see a 14 to 16 points per game you know let’s say he does get back to the early season form he had last year does that jump him up into tier two probably ahead of some of these Rooks yeah yeah I think so I think so too I I just that seems like such a small like um the kind of range of outcomes I just see that as a really small percentile of that happening because if we’re doing this same episode this time next year we’re probably having a different conversation about Max Crosby miles Garrett TJ watt Josh Allen way down a like there’s an opt opportunity that two of those guys don’t quite you know live up to their to their ADP this uh this season um I think those guys are only not living up to their ADP if they get hurt that’s the thing it’s going to be a very interesting conversation could I Josh Allen’s a candidate yes I think he’s a huge regression candidate uh just because he’s so overachieved compared to his kind of career TJ numbers at this point 30 years old Max Crosby what happens if all of a sudden he’s playing 75% of the snaps The Tackle The Tackle numbers with Christian Wilkins there is a very good point that the tackles could be siphoned off a little bit by Wilkins and what just a bit right just take off 20 tackles because top little edges are what make the difference but also too like what if they’re trying to prolong Max Crosby’s longevity there and they’re like look dude we just drafted Co now we’ve got um you know now we’ve got help here with a Tyree Wilson like we don’t have to play every single play we’re not really ready to compete yet you looked at our division lately pushing for the playoffs you know uh so yeah I think we got Gardner menu as our quarterback I think they want to kind of D he would be a trade candidate if like in the NFL if he didn’t mean so much to the Raiders yeah that’s their only good player I think that’s why they’re like uh if we trade him we’re basically an expansion franchise it gets it gets ugly pretty quick there yeah he’s such a good face of a franchise yeah I don’t think he’s going anywhere I think it’s going to be a very interesting conversation because I don’t really see a lot of guys with huge downside risk in this group that we’ve talked about I think Jaylen Phillips just because of the injury I think Josh Allen just because he overachieved so much in 2023 now Brian Burns yes that’s what do we think about Burns I’m a little worried about Burns I uh when you look at the pressure rates I mean nothing that special like career-wise he’s never I he got he got paid like a top five guy right and I don’t know that he belongs in that category yeah and sitting here at number 10 for you yeah he’s I think he’s going to get all the opportunity in the world of course I mean so that’s good um I just don’t know that he has that Elite level you know who he is he’s Kirk Cousins he has the best agent in the NFL yeah he’s basically just been able to milk the free agency process of like Josh Allen is going to stay in Jacksonville uh Mont sweat just signed with Chicago there was nobody else available from a defensive end perspective so he’s like sure I’ll go somewhere else and get $150 million well and just be mediocre I think the thing that could Elevate him this year is he finally has help along the defensive line which is you know he’s he’s had some decent you know some decent players alongside him in Carolina over the years but nothing like what he’s had in New York he has had nothing but yeah I mean but if we’re talking about help I think we’re we’re mainly talking about Dexter Lawrence cuz Kayon was big bummer last year yeah I mean we’ll talk about him here at the top of tier four but um like you said babo I’m hoping for a bounceback I’m hoping for something more from Kayon because he could be a guy that falls out of this top 24 entirely in 2025 yeah and to reference that career pressure rate for Brian Burns 11.8% mediocre nothing special nothing really that Elite um and then Kavon 9.6 press rate as a rookie 88.4% year two yeah I don’t know what’s going on there he’ll be okay he’ll be all right I I I maybe this is a rising tide lifts both of these boats both these guys make each other better yeah that’s that’s what I’m hoping for it’s a it’s a solid situation I mean uh if they do if if if they are you know okay and and uh live up to the high that’s a good defense I think that team’s going to suck though don’t good defensive line I guess you say good well I mean you’ve got you know we’ll see what um who was the safety they brought in the rookie uh to replace McKenna they got nuben in there get you Noob and we got Deontay Banks year two he was their first round pick Bob o I wish they had upgraded that lb2 spot yeah they got mcfaden and Isaiah Simmons there yeah who knows where he’s gonna play that offense though with Daniel Jones I mean this just feels like a four and 13 kind of team I don’t know it’s going to be a rough year to roster Malik neighbors yes I think you’re going to have to be very patient with Malik because uh yeah they you see that Malik neighbors called off his of the Year bet with um after one practice with Daniel Jones did you see him get out of the van and meet the organization like after the draft it was a pretty rough Vibe you could tell he was pretty bumed I think there is a very good chance like you talked about track record with uh calling these kind of upand cominging edge rushers I feel like I have the good radar of like which coaches are about to get fired yeah Brian Deo feels like a very likely candidate to get canned possibly like midseason seems like somebody needs to keep a check on his like blood pressure I was going say his face is always red always mad always very upset I think he’s always sunburned too so like get this guy some sunscreen but also get him you know some lipor get the cholesterol down somebody yeah he’s not a happy guy coach we done anything good today that coach life is stressful man yeah I don’t know how these guys do I don’t know how their heads don’t blow off their shoulders what’s your early take on the Pats uh coach you see anything dad Mayo yeah seems like a a you know the coach ing pendulum typically when guys get hired they’re the opposite of who came before them so Bill bich notorious hardass drod Mayo is the Players coach you know he’s yucking it up with the guys in practice so it’s like the breath of fresh air narrative with the coach so we’ll see I mean obviously the Pats like him they wrote it into his contract that he would be the next head coach so clearly they like this guy great player in his career so they say Drake May looks good yeah we’ll see I mean I think that could be a surprise team that’s like wait the Pats are actually you know sitting at 500 in you know October November so um let’s talk about the next tier though boys and we are going to kick things off like we mentioned with Kayon Tibido uh starting off tier number four and then George caraus is up next the Chicago Bear well the commander turned bear montz sweat ran Gary is after montz sweat and then Alex heith rounds out tier number four again Kayon Tibido George kofus montz sweat ran Gary Alex heith um this is uh this is where I think the tiar break is for me Addie this is where I’m like there is a lot we talked about like what’s the downside risk for a lot of these you know top three tiers I see quite a bit here in tier four kind of gets a little bit still you know still nice still some nice guys here not like you know uh you don’t want to start these guys or roster these guys they’re still top 20 4 assets but just a little yuckier right you’re not willing to go out of your way to acquire these guys you’re not trying to you know throw around some second round picks first round picks you’re not thinking about doing any of that stuff no not for this tier no but I mean if you can get values on these guys right I mean these are guys that I think could still go to another level like Kavon like we mentioned uh 11 points per game as a rookie 12.7 year or two but the pressure rate wasn’t great but that stuff can turn around the dude is still just 23 years of age um same thing with carlus carus the opposite he his press rate has gotten better um every single year uh points per game has improved year one to year two also he’s 23 so um in a great situation there so yeah I mean a lot of these guys I think can still go to another level but they’re just not really sexy you know they just feel like Edge two like if I’m setting my starting lineup these are not guys that I’m going to have as like the edge one of my team yeah these aren’t guys that are going to be giving you now maybe Kavon could could flip this narrative but I feel like most these guys on this list aren’t going to be giving you you know big 40 Point weeks or at least not multiple 40 Point weeks if Kon was what8 point something last year on the pressure rate he sucked it up last year and we’re like Brian Burns you know 11 ho he’s got a road to Ho if he can if he wants to get up to that kind of that oh yeah Benchmark that we look for when it comes to pressure rate for Edge rushers um ho in a road sounds miserable that’s right I mean that’s a lot of work and that’s kind of what I picture Kavon having to do here man you’re talking about some of these guys with double the pressure rate this guy has I mean that’s a that’s a tall task um Baba who do you like best out of this bunch here I like montz sweat best I do too I think he’s the one I gravitate to the most I honestly kind of like this tier um I get what you’re saying that the the sex appeal isn’t there but Mont sweat pretty good year there for Chicago 14.8 points per game in 2023 uh more points per game last year than Will Anderson uh more than Brian Burns more than Kavon diido um I do like ran Gary I understand that he is a little bit boom bus I know he had a monster game last year I think he had two like 40 point games just about and then was quiet in a lot of games he 10.7 points per game he was very JH allenes uh last year um so we need that to kind of kind of he need to find a little median there um but I like Carl lus a lot I think I probably like carlus more than Kavon diido I probably like carlus the most out of the group just because he’s 23 years old um and Carl lus really kind of towards the end of last year when the Chiefs really needed help because the veterans that they kind of had sticking around weren’t doing anything Felix an aduk was doing nothing uh carus was the only one who was actually getting any pressure on the quarterback and actually played pretty well towards the end of 2023 so um I don’t know was awesome in the playoffs too I remember that yeah these guys are stinky but um I I I think as long as you’re looking at them as like like I said for it helps my brain contextualize like these are Edge twos on my team I don’t want these if I’ve if I’m starting off a a dynasty startup draft for example and these are the guys that are my you know any of these guys are my Edge one I have made a grave error because I would much rather start off a draft with some of these guys in tier one two or three I just probably wouldn’t want to draft these guys where they’re going you know I would just wait I would just pick up the value I i’ look for the the the Huffs the counes is this kind of the Dead will McDonald’s is The Edge dead zone right here in startups yes I think so um yeah I either want I either want to go Elite or get out just punt yeah give me like one of those top those what top three TI now you’ve been talking a lot recently about sort of starting lineup requirements you know roster requirements if you’re starting two Edge rushers versus starting like in a sleeper league for DL does your strategy change at all probably so when you’re drafting if less starters I’m going to want to be as Elite as I can get so you may go two guys from the top maybe yeah three yeah yeah if I could get a decent value on um maybe Will Anderson or something or um waivers are going to be stupid you’re going to be able to get somebody on waivers at any point I feel like I’m a little ahead of Market on Will Anderson and maybe I could get like one of these young guys like if I could pair like Will Anderson Dallas turn I was G say could you get the Alabama combo I think I could do that and be totally fine with that um and it probably wouldn’t cost it wouldn’t cost that much I don’t think now I think now for what it what it could you know be worth this is where it helps to be ahead of Market you can get these sort of discounts in Dynasty startup drafts and that’s why I’ll take shots on guys like that because when you are when you do get ahead of the market and it pays out and and works out for you I mean you’re you’re in good shape a nice profit nice Roi and it’s hard to find profit 90p like it’s it’s again like there was I think you know out of those guys we we’ve mentioned tonight you’re probably only paying like a first for maybe 10 of y 10 to 15 of them you know so I mean there’s just not a lot of money to be made off of of IDP transaction so when you have the opportunity to do it I think you gota you got to do it yeah so there is tier four let’s talk tier five and then we can kind of have a holistic conversation about the top 24 anyone we left off but starting off tier five here fellas is Buffalo Bills Edge rusher Gregory rouso then we go the newest Philadelphia Eagle Bryce Huff Jets Germaine Johnson clock Sate number three in this tier Jonathan grenard the newest Minnesota Viking and then rounding out the top 24 and tier five is Trayvon Walker the number one overall pick from I guess last year of the Jacksonville Jaguars so gentlemen tier number five um is it weird to say I kind of like this tier a little bit more than the tier above is that crazy I don’t think so just because you have I think some guys with some really nice untapped upside here honestly there’s probably not a tier it’s probably just one big old one biger yeah because I look at you know Bryce Huff we’re this is the year right this is this is Takeoff we’ve been waiting patiently for him to get his opportunity feels like it’s here Germaine Johnson we talked about him last episode on the trade show um Trayvon Walker we’re still waiting to see that Potential from the number one overall pick fully Unleashed year one to your two was an improvement an improvement and then 9.99 R 23 years of age this is the Jags are hoping this investment pays off starting like really this year next year this is when they need to start cashing in on this um but and then Jonathan grenard getting uh the you know getting the bag in Minnesota and having some nice help there having a nice defensive coordinator uh could he take even another step forward and then you know Gregory rouso has has long been a tease with the Buffalo Bills but there’s definitely some meat on the bone there as well so so um yeah I think you’re right I think tier four tier five probably just one big tier uh but some juicy names in this list babo I think Greg rouso is a nice buy right now I think he’s a nice value um what’s the deal with Von Miller is he still there 35 yeah I took him in round TR I took him in round 31 of our most recent best that was solid I was like that’s good that’ll be fine why not Russo Russo um 24.1 years old um entering his fourth year in the league 8.8 points per game in 2021 then he had 11.8 10.6 in 2023 um man I don’t know Greg rouso is just one that I keep expecting to take a step and um entering you know this season when you’re 24 years old entering your fourth year um coming off a year where you had five sacks that’s a little disappointing but I don’t know man watching Greg Russo play ball um he is in the backfield quite a bit causing disruption 13.8 pressure rate um this team was gutted a little bit to get right cap wise so um think this team needs Gregor rouso to step up the snaps uh in 2023 60% of snaps 585 I think you’re going to see that tick up quite a bit I hopefully hopefully he’s north of 70% of snaps this year that would be awesome I don’t know if that’s the case but you’re right Josh I mean um there’s not a lot of help there uh I don’t know they brought back AJ pessa yeah you still got you still got the corpse of Von Miller out there so who knows what you get from him but um yeah I like Russo 13.8% career pressure rate that’s that’s better than Alex High Smith who had a 10.5% career pressure rate Montes SWAT 11.5 George carus 11.7 Brian Burns 11.8 Greg rouso 66 260 that’s a big boy big boy 24 years of age like Bob mentioned I mean yeah I I I think that people are sleeping on him I think that he could uh he could ball out on this second contract he’s about volume for me I I just would love to see Russo somewhere else Buffalo I just don’t think he’s ever going to get north of 70% of snaps y have they picked up his option I believe so I believe so they did uh quy pay got his option picked up we should mention as well interesting yeah I I was on the fence on that one I think it was just one of those where it’s like we might as well you know um I was 50/50 could see it going either way they end up picking it up uh you mentioned Alex heith I to jump back up to that tier for just a second another kind of like TJ watt love him in beste ball yeah don’t want to roster him otherwise yeah he would had down year last year so I do feel like we’re we’re due for a good high Smith year probably some good value to be had but he’s up and down very up and down not consistent not not the type of of player that I really care to roster two two starting defensive end spots in your starting lineup no thank you Alex iith exactly don’t don’t want to mess with that give me Nick herbig him big heck yeah himig himig played well last year and uh you know you got an older TJ watt you got an high Smith who’s not you know producing Elite levels Here Comes him big you know on his way in could see it but that’s a great point though I mean that high Smith is a perfect guy for a a league where you start four defensive linemen because who cares that fourth D linean is going to be you probably a crap shoot anyway like you want those guys give me some boom potential give me some Dynamite potential and that’s high Smith how much are y’all interested in grenard and Dynasty I I mean if if I do I think actually saw I saw him get traded for like a late third in this class give me that all day you know what I’m seeing in this class I think you know chop was available so would you rather have chop Robinson or jonath grard grard yep easy me too now if the big three rookies are still there that’s a different story I don’t think they were I don’t feel like those guys are going to be there late third and all of superlex or one QB it doesn’t matter I’m seeing the big three last longer and longer like they’re staying all of these people are taking every offensive name you can dream of some of them yeah some drafts are different man i’ I’ve seen them last um like in that in that League I did on MFL like they were 310 I got Dallas sh then I got latu at 410 that was just like a I don’t know what was going on right there it’s just kind of a weird but that was no position Left Behind no left behind so it kind of equals the establish League I don’t know people in different spots it feels like most of most of the leagues those guys are probably going between like 210 and 306 probably I don’t think I’ve seen verse like in in most my leagues I don’t think I’ve seen him get past like 306 I went back and look at past XFL uh rookie drafts today went back and look at like some third fourth fifth round picks you know the only people of any value people that were like a first round pick a second round pick like you know some of these like cornerbacks some of these uh not necessarily the linebackers but it’s just it’s comical to go back and look at how many misses there are so like if you get back later on in drafts don’t go reaching for like this sixth round wide receiver that’s why we talk about IDP so great you don’t have to take like wide receiver 13 in the third round you can take the edge three in the class you know or the lb one or two you know um much better store of value than dice roll wide receiver X some of these defensive tackles this year have got some good draft Capital honestly I’m interested in some of these Corners that are coming out of this year like there’s some really freak athletic corner like some of the fastest Corners we’ve ever seen and I know good tackling Corners too though absolutely teron Arnold I love him yep yep Kenyan Mitchell could be a freak as well um Kenyan Mitchell I’m interested in him yeah they did pick up the fifth year option on Greg Russo so um yeah I was going back and looking atg I was going back and looking at some of the uh draft classes uh to see yes the 2022 one I think is probably the best comp for this one in terms of like the sex appeal let’s go back to 2021 and see who the top three guys were Micah Parsons now he was drafted as a linebacker initially but I think we can count him it’s hilarious the top two guys are converted linebacker to edge with Micah Parsons and zav Collins after that Jaylen Phillips so if you’re looking purely at guys that were just drafted at Edge not expected to play Ed you know or not expected to play linebacker like Micah Parsons or zav Collins it was um Jaylen Phillips at 18 quiddy pay at 21 and then pton Turner at 28 wow and rouso at 30 yeah rouso at 30 odaf o at 31 Joe Tron shinka at 32 wolf wolf pretty ugly who do you want more in Dynasty do you want Russo or caraus caraus easy pretty easy yeah just because of the volume I don’t dislike Russo I would love to see Russo fly the coupe and land somewhere where he gets 75 80% of the snaps because I think he’s a monster I think it’s just like uh you know kind of a sleeping giant situation with Russo caraus or thid boy it’s it’s really easy to make a downside case for Kavon it’s it’s harder to make the upside case so I’d probably go carus but I think it’s fairly close there the upside is taning divido had a 964 Ras yeah he was awesome awesome athlete um Bryce Bryce Huff we uh we trying to cash out I would yeah it feels like a good time I think so CU I was looking it sucks though because it’s like it’s finally here yeah it’s finally here time to sell it’s finally here but also like what is it going to be because last year look the dude had 10 sacks last year quietly but he still only averaged like 9.6 points per game so he’s not a big tackle guy like I’m kind of getting the same Vibes out of Jonathan grenard yeah where it’s like is this a peak right now to where it’s like everybody’s excited new team got paid all right let’s let’s move on yeah if you want to cash out on grenard I I would rather be in on grenard I think cashing out on Bryce Huff right now is a good idea all right so with gernard though like you are cashing out we talked about it we someone got him a late third but you are cashing out probably for an early third and just the the chance that you get one of those top 10 AB if I can roll the dice and get one of the big three rookies yes I would cash out on grenard for one of those most people are going to be hit to that MH if I can get 301 to 303 I think one of the big three guys will be there yeah I mean if you could sell any of these guys for an early third to have a shot let’s play the game where is the line of yeah that’s a good point sell for a third hoping you can can get Dallas Turner lotu or vers let’s start with Carl off cuz there have been a lot of about Carl off tonight you selling Carl office for 301 I know that seems like that’s that’s that’s kind of like selling cheap but you got to remember you can get one of these other guys if I know I can get one of those other guys yes I’m cashing out any of them yep cashing out if I can get any of them oh yes absolutely everyone you should be trying to get those 301 get rid some these Ed rushers TR I’m trying to get maybe a little more cuz it does feel a little light uh so but it’s the it’s the same thing that uh trade I made for Dallas Turner earlier this year uh when rookie drafts first started I traded away rwn Gary and Chase young Chase young who cares yeah but same thought there you know I I I traded it for it’s a 16 Team league and I got the 212 212 we broke it down on the trade showan Gary Chase young for 212 and you look at that like that’s really light you should get more than that yeah I got Dallas Turner though that’s right I want Dallas Turner so car lus yes I’m cashing out Kavon Kavon or 301 301 yep 100% uh well we can’t we can’t do verse denil hunter or 301 I want denil Hunter D again it’s context specific but theil hunter Jared verse or denil Hunter lot to or it’s close very close I want the 301 yeah gave me 301 okay Jaylen Phillips or 301 301 boy that’s a really tough one 301 probably 301 Brian Burns or 301 God sounds gross1 isn’t that crazy though you’re going to feel like an idiot but so the line is basically right up to like Dallas Turner at number nine you could Bas you would basically want the 301 over now for those guys we mentioned like I’m not I I I can’t cash out on denil Hunter and Brian Burns and some of these guys for just 301 I got to get something but you actually could that’s the thing you could get the deal done easy but I still feel like you could maybe get a little more thrown in maybe but you also May really win that deal like you may look look up in six months like holy hell I am glad I did that Den Hunter breaks his neck or something breaks his neck well he has neck issues he has neck issues I’m putting that on him if the worst case scenario of a broken neck okay real quick kadie who is off this list not in the top 24 that you think could jump into the top 24 we’re having this conversation late May 2025 who’s now not counting the rookies coming in because it sounds like the edge rushers coming in in 2025 are going to be pretty sick uh but who’s someone already in the league that you think could jump into the top 24 it can’t be Joey Bosa man I tell you I’m scrolling right now and like is there anybody or is this is this u i mean of course we’re we’re gonna I mean could Tyree Wilson ball out year two uh doesn’t seem likely at this know who knows who knows uh I mean he he’s a candidate you know I mean he is like a like they don’t uh they don’t build them like that often you know 65 271 um what was the RASS on Tyrie he he didn’t get a Rass he was hurt it would have been like n N5 probably just so much unknown with him so I like him Lucas vaness you know I mean what what can he look like um chop Robinson I think’s a candidate like if if he comes out and plays well these guys all feel like candidates to jump into like back end of tier five Malcolm Co I mean could that be like your next Bryce Huff yeah maybe we uh we have an article coming up from Jason King next week looking at like nebulous situations he’s looking at Co versus Tyrie Wilson so look forward to that so I mean yeah honestly I mean there’s there is a lot of candidates because I mean if you look at the top 24 right now like who would have thought that Bryce Huff would be up there who would have thought that um uh Germaine Johnson Jonathan Gard right I mean like some of these guys I think areis about some of your first round guys from last year that kind of underwhelmed like what about FAU you know what about miles Murphy miles Murphy yeah absolutely like there’s a lot of those guys will McDonald like I mean even though it seems like we don’t know what his role is going to be like yeah that that all that stuff can definitely happen Aon young can take another step and there’s tons of just there’s tons of talent man like there’s like boy MAF didn’t even talk about him tonight like he had an awesome second year there’s some there’s some good I was going to say there’s some good veterans just right off the edge like uh khil Mack Joy Bosa youu Tre Hendrickson yep big Trey yay diabi Hassan reck so I mean re you know that’s that’s there’s a lot of these I would rather I would rather get these guys and not really Chase those what was it tier C and D MH I would rather just get these guys that I I know what they are I know kind of the timeline for their careers so you want to shop in tier one two and three and just skip four and five I think so give me the Hassan rects give me the Joey B says I’ll ride them out you know to the end of their career cuz if the stuff doesn’t work out with these guys you feel a lot less bad about the ADP the ADP on the tier four and five you you’ve got some invested in that and then when they don’t pan out you’re a little you’re a little pissed yeah it just feels like it’s a dead zone it just feels like the area after that top three tiers where it’s like ah I think I’d rather just wait and grab you know a Bosa or Mack or reic or uchen or one of these guys that’s a little further down the list little older not as sexy coming off an injury something like that yeah I mean the the real thing to do is go out there and buy you some K Mack Matt judon reic is a nice little value re’s a really nice value like those are the guys that if you’re contending like that’s the way to do it like you don’t if if you don’t want to over ever overinvestment Floyd would be fine he’s a f for a fifth or hell off waivers yeah maybe he’s had 10 sacks forever and he will again opposite Nick Bosa I’d say you’re right Joey Bosa I mean he’s he’s probably gonna be cheap I have been taking a lot of Bosa in these basetball drafts BOS is going to have a great year everyone’s going to feel dumb just he’s dual Desi it’s like sitting there in the fourth round do even matter he’s a good player he’s a good player push the button money great great career pressure rate like dude has been solid every time he’s out there it’s just we you know he’s got he’s got some health issues they’re going to cut him soon it’s Tuli season T tul is another one that’s I me that’s someone you could see Rising I thought he was really impressive year could jump up yeah you mentioned him there’s a bunch of those guys kind of lurking behind big names yeah Tulie him big right you know Murphy or no the yeah miles Murphy yeah I know that’s one John likes and then some of the guys you know the the the Chris brazwells like uh neand talk for the third time in the pot H we got a rookie draft coming up on Saturday I wonder who’s on your mind here Addie I’ve been picking up nean a lot no I’m not drafting them and and especially in RSO we’ve talked about this before too but in RSO the I am not drafting any of those Edge rushers that are not first round picks like just because they usually take way too long like they’re usually not ready by the their you know by their until their third or fourth year and it’s like they just broke out and I’ve got to pay him you know 25 million on a extension no thank you dude also we probably need to talk a little Drew Sanders real quick oh yeah four one out bummer Tor Achilles right y done for the season I saw some hype or some talk like maybe he could be back for December I was like Denver you’re going to be probably like six and 11 this season there’s no reason to rush through Sanders back that’s a shame man I mean his it was already seeming like he was turning towards a bus just you we got to remember anytime that we hear like we don’t really know what the position is for this guy that’s a red flag saing Collins saing Collins saing Collins this guy can do everything yeah well but he can’t really do anything that great yeah yeah I’d rather him just do one thing really really well and do that one thing did you see where um Jamal Adams was visiting today the Ravens yeah yeah don’t like that that’s interesting I took him in round 30 I took the stinky stack there to end that basball draft like Jamal Adams and Von Miller like they’ll sign Jamal Adams will sign somewhere Chuck Clark I think the last round of one of them so he’s solid he’ll be fine over under uh Jamal Adams plays six games oh way under maybe maybe like three games and then gets cut because he’s a freaking knucklehead and an a-hole so well thank you all for tuning in hope you enjoyed this episode top 24 Dynasty Edge rushers next week we’ll be coming back with a recap of our rookie draft our main League the xffl RSO platform reality Sports online if you’re looking for a dynasty startup we highly recommend recommend RSO it’s our favorite platform and our long running Dynasty League where this podcast spawn out of we have our rookie draft saturday night so we’ll be breaking that down for you all so look forward to that should be a lot of fun QB one QB yep five rounds one QB hey I got the 301 and 302 so I expect some offers from you little uh QB I got I got 210 so H it didn’t matter Josh you’re going to mess that up what are you thinking about doing there uh just value whatever Falls um so D end H D end Jared verse I feels like Jared verse might be there Jared verse will be there 30 you 301 302 Lee has a late second ah he does have Byron young and I’ve kind of been like dude if you’re going to take verse let me have young let me have young give one a little bit Yeah but uh but let me have verse yeah just trade up in the least spot you can get up in the least spot I don’t care I’m kind of man whatever he wants first honestly I don’t really care um latu I mean you’ll get one of them yeah you’ll get one of those three of those guys Turner is gonna be gone I don’t know Turner will be gone in a second I don’t know what you want bet one of those guys is want at 210 I will just say that sandwich no I love sandwiches I love sandwiches he don’t want to give a sandwich he wants to get a sandwich right I can’t risk that well you guys will if you’re listening to this uh you know close to Monday Tuesday you’ll be here in the recap of how the rookie draft sh out what are you going to do Joshy what are your plans Josh has a 103 yeah that’s going to be Odun or neighbors and then 210 I think is my next one oh 2B my neigh this could be this could be a latu here it’ll be latu Turner or verse whoever’s still there I think probably I’ll have a pick of Turner or or latu you think you would go that route you go D end yes at two I’ve got a couple offensive names that I like and if they’re there be going offense not saying I wouldn’t go offense if there’s you know some value there but I think the plan right now is yeah one of the top Edge guys that’s why I held on to that 210 was so I could snag one of those guys maybe there won’t be maybe they will go earlier though in a one QB you know most of Lees we’ve been doing have been super Flex um so maybe they won’t be there would you trade the 103 for the 105 and the 110 no I just I I want one of those top three wide receivers you might this year are you like farming trades are like I’m brainstorming trades you’re going to send out have a couple Saturday have a couple rookie drafts coming up this weekend and I really like a lot of this late first and after Marv you’ve got Neighbors in Odun and then after that it’s like what do you like question mark so it’s like if I can just get a couple more picks and just I’ll figure it out yeah in that top 12 feel good about that top 12 yeah’ be good to have I’m not saying O dun is not going to hit I’m just saying like if you could get like Bowers and Keon Coleman lad yeah f o dun Brian Thomas has been slipping in some of these leag he been slipping a lot I mean if you get that’d be sick you get Brock and Brian Thomas yeah I would do that over get worthy and Bowers you get worthy and Brooks you get yeah Brooks too you get Leed and all right we’re going to get out of here as babo continues to farm out possibility for trades thank you all for tuning in like we mentioned the IDP show.com Mike wart just dropped his article 10 rookie idps to Target in redraft leagues we’ll have an episode of the after show Jeff is bringing back the Battle Royale series from our first uh like episodes two through five I think of this podcast history with the Battle Royale series really Jeff’s bringing it back with guests all offseason so look forward to that we’ll have some great articles coming y’all’s way updating the draft kit here in the next week so make sure you’re subscribed over there the IDP show.com we’ll have some more bestall drafts rolling here soon keep the ADP updated for y’all so just so much good stuff happening y’all come back next week though we’ll be talking our rookie draft recap until then y’all take care and we’ll see you soon [Music]