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The journey continues with Xander Schauffele and his father/swing coach Stefan in San Diego, California. Learn how the duo built Xander’s swing drawing on Stefan’s childhood track and field experience.

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Xander Schauffele and Stefan Schauffele | Swing Expedition with Chris Como | GolfPass

you mentioned doing some drills that mimic Hunter Mayan and Matsuyama Hunter Mayan obviously had a very clean pause at the top deep set H deck he’s more known for the actual pause that he plays with right for me it was a big thing I used to be super loose with the club when I don’t practice enough the first thing I do for some reason is whenever I want to hit one hard or or tug on the handle I lay the club way down it works if you can pivot properly but end of the day it does do a lot of problems to see the club face and it’s hard to square it up the way we would sort of GrooVe this my dad and I here would it be do a p drill so we’d get to the top my dad would be sitting behind me he’d be like good everything looks great and we we go through transition so obviously when you’re when you’re doing the paws up top you need to make sure everything is loaded properly so you have the power you see Hideki with his freaking tree trunk legs he’s freaking loaded wide up cuz he’s you know he’s going just as fast as anyone else and he doesn’t even have a back swing so yeah it’s pretty cool and then we would do it blind then you know that everything’s on exactly if you want me to do that I can all right I’ll hit one camera on his eyes to make sure he’s closed that’s right pause it at top pause at the top eyes closed oh little skinny that was a little skinny on the [Music] [Laughter] toe that was a hle that’s right we got one more come on closed still talking yeah yeah there you go now you can open there there you [Music] go 9 10 years old I love hitting balls I didn’t like doing anything else the first I guess lesson in golf for me was just distance Xander shafley is an up incoming star in just three years on tour Xander has won four events and has proven to be a major Contender with three top threes Xander shafley is your Champion as one of the best players in the world one of the best Young Americans that’s for sure but X-Men doesn’t do it alone his lifelong swing coach Stefon is better known as his father although Stefan’s athletic career was cut short as a young man after a car accident left him blind in his left eye Xander’s proving the shafley name is one to know I traveled to San Diego to learn more from the shaffle coming from track and field we were taught that speed is created in the middle teenage years if you start later you will never develop as much speed as you would if you work in those years I took that from my past and applied it to him and basically encouraged him to heat it as hard and as fast as he can I’ve heard people tell me on tour it doesn’t look like I swing very hard but the ball comes off kind of hot nice for me to swing 130 and have 190 ball speed but I just it’s hard for me with my short arms and my levers and legs you know what I mean I’m just not tall enough to do that you have a very efficient impact and obviously the traj exctly So when you say speed a lot of it is sort of everything’s coming kind of coming up from the ground okay when I was young he had you know hammer and a nail a very simple concept but when you swing a hammer he actually had me do it in the backyard I thought for a week I thought it was the most fun thing you know kid and he’d show me sort of he says kid you need to take this hammer and you need this to nail this thing down in the plank of wood with one hit cuz I was too weak it’ always take me two hits to get the nail in oh wow there’s sequence in everything you do for the most part you know what I mean you take it you load this hammer and at the at the right time you have to let it all out golf is so static every other sport you’re moving you’re you’re you’re jumping you’re leading your foot like you it’s such a easy move a step out drill is really simple so anything where I I’ll start I’ll take the club like a quarter of the way back I’ll step out here I’ll feel a load in this in this back cheek and then my force me stepping out already puts a ton of force down in my left heel here which is already helping transition I don’t really hit balls on the course you know stepping out my version of a step out on the course is sort of a bit of a heel lift oh interesting I I feel the same sequence and power with a heel lift so what I’ll do is I’ll take the club sort of a quarter the way back and I’ll feel a little bit of a left heel lift here you can see a ton of great players do it the trail foot being Square so you like that from a a loading of the of that trail L that comes again from track and field you know a shot putut in particular like a baseball player the M put a put a stick down a stick here a little bit of a like a baseball a pitcher down the mount his Trail foot is pointed inward right you can push off something pointed inward but you cannot push off something pointing outward so basically you’re saying you you don’t really want to see this foot turned out not ever not ever if anything we always Tau with Good Side Bad Side right and I would always Clearly say the good side is to be turned in the bad side is to be turned out it’s hard to get rotation with your hip if your foot’s in much easier here but then if your foot’s way flared out you don’t get any load in your in your right cheek so there’s a very fine line of where this foot needs to be but I I’ve lived and I’ve played golf on on both sides of it and I’ve had success doing both but I feel personally most load and the and the strongest in in my right cheek when this thing is pretty close to so you’re feeling this your right glute when you up when when you load up I mean when you do anything like if you’re trying to throw a ball or anything it’s all I’m right-handed so everything is always loaded in this right side if you have no load if I’m going to you know punch you in the face right now like I need to step back you know it’s not just golf like like I said I’m not going to hit you in the face but you know if I’m going to load up and try and lay one on you I’m not going to sit here with all my weight on my left side I’m not going to lay a very good hit on you you know what I mean you you sort of sit back load and then you can explode into it yeah it’s the same for I think every I would DOD it athletic you’re pretty ninja likee but it sort of applies to everything here you know what I mean if you’re not getting a good load into this you have no chance of delivering the club properly and then you might start doing all kinds of funky stuff to try and cuz you have no Force coming through the ball so we’ll just start nice and easy here first shot so that’s basically load into the right glute and then step into the left heel for sure training my lady here at home R simonian okay the load is always sort of in in in this area of your foot if you if you get any pressure outside of this foot you’re losing everything it’s like he said on a pitch’s mount it helps cuz you dig your foot in so your foot’s already loaded on this step here if I’m loading and I get outside her rule is always the kneecap can’t go outside the big toe that’s what she looks at when she watches me hit yeah so when I’m when I’m here you know I I need this to be here good steady load here and then when I transfer all my pressure is here on sort of big toe just inside in this area here and it shoots everything shoots into this left heel and it can pivot nicely on the back swing for you the load is in the right glute but you’re feeling a lot of the pressure on the inner part of your Trail foot almost like you’re on a pitcher mound exactly and like you said just don’t let the that trail knee get outside the big toe of your when I’m doing the drill it’s a little harder because I do start back and and the motion fortunately the motion is so towards the Target and lateral here that I I don’t have trouble sort of of moving yeah but you’re exaggerating your transfer F exaggerating a weight transfer for sure as if I was you know trying to PCH off a mount or something I’ll do it in a slow way like I’ve done ones where I’ll step I feel a load right now and then I felt all my weight going to my left heel there yeah that’s great the heel touching the ground is also the impulse for for the hit right so this is on top of it it’s impact timing for sure it’s wonderful so that that it does two things that’s why it’s it’s a phenomenal drill it’s a very simple drill it’s an old drill uh I think the people don’t realize how valuable it is it was funny he actually when I was younger he’ always ask me like you know tennis players I wanted him to be voice he wanted me to Grunt and I’m like dude or saying no it’s just impact you know impact time he he always told me you know if you have a solid impact you can get away with a lot of yeah problems right if you have good coordination and a good impact to close a door you can get away with a lot I mean drawing on the the sort of punching anality you hear a lot of boxers make that right it’s the same idea tennis players they grunt you know right when that Ball’s coming in gr on Conta I couldn’t you’re not going to hear me you know Serena Williams out here like grunting on impact maybe a little bit of like a that was your wiing noise are you kidding me you sound like a you sound like a quail or something let’s hear it then come on I’ll throw I’ll mix I’ll mix one in later much too much pressure too much pressure coming up make me kind of relax everything then disc goes first and then you know oh that’s great and we do this a lot this would sort of be the Sensation that I would get something as simple as this [Music] the back swing is uh utterly irrelevant uh simply because we register the club face to a part of of our body maybe the palm of your right hand or the back of your left hand I personally actually use this little segment here for that reason the back swing that we use is only there to put the club into a position that allows you then to make a good motion to bre it so uh I don’t pay much attention to the back swing earlier we on the Range we talked about sort of comparative data or swing analysis through video you look at all the top 50 players in the world in their impact positions everyone gets there a different way but everyone has such a similar impact position and like you said it doesn’t you’re just trying to get the bat in a certain position it doesn’t really matter what goes on up here as long as you can get yourself down to to close a door and get to that Impact Zone you know properly fa me doesn’t is sort of irrelevant I was struggling a little bit in Korea classic Pro trying to find it on the Range I I was sitting right there and I was watching Gary Woodland hit I was like dang this guy’s pure one noticeable thing about his swing it’s very Compact and short and he has a ton of lag I’ve heard people sort of be like oh if you have too much lag like you’ll lean the handle through you’ll lean it and you won’t be able to to square it up and you’ll hit it way right you know but like I said feel versus real I’ve always been someone who hasn’t had enough I’d say and you know my dad the way he taught me was always a good and a bad side you know obviously everyone wants to be perfect light side of the dark side light side of the dark side and he always wanted to put me on the good side in his teaching world having too much lag is on the safer side why don’t you show it first uh what what your your sensation was yeah so the sensation is sort of I something that I sort of hate about my golf swing which is a lever that’s been created for more speed is you want this left arm to be straight traditionally you’ll see a few guys with more broken arms breaking the arm does give you an extra lever into the ball I’m a little guy I need some help um the problem is it’s not consistent how much it breaks here and there but I’ve been sort of I get to the top of the swing and in the past couple years I’ve been sort of breaking my arm which has actually been throwing the club this way oh interesting so your combes creating a lever here but losing a lever there in a sense exactly um and it sort of happens naturally uh I don’t know why it does uh he’s noticed it it bugs the heck out of him this will be sort of an offseason thing my trainer she thinks that I’m just not strong enough okay um which is what we’re blaming it on now so we’re going to try and get a little bit stronger you know just to keep this arm very stable but you know in Asia I was watching Gary hit and he takes it to here and he’s just whipping it you know I feel sort of like when you crack a whip is sort of the sensation I had so I felt a lot of it sort of in the wrist here when I was coming down I I would get my proper load just like everything else was the same his saying for me is sort of leave the club Behind you that’s sort of what he would tell me that’s what it looks like it’s almost like as you change directions the club’s still going the other way sh a rubber bent and stretches out your CL face stays behind you do you feel like you need to be wider in your wrist to have a little room to be able to do that I mean it would definitely help I I think I’ve always from from being young you know when I was 12 13 in order to hit it far just basic math the bigger Arc you have the more you know speed you can create so obviously you know if more acceleration on the arc I can give you the math thank you I play golf I’m not I’m not into all that stuff that’s the stuff hey I specialize in math I started studying it it’s good so when I was young that’s another thing you know we we’ work on on being very wide obviously being very wide helps you well and then and then also when when you when you’re wide and we would do we would do something like this yeah this is sort of kinesthetic stuff that we would do but he would let me take the club to the top and now he would hold the club there and make me kind of relax everything and then this goes first and then you know oh that’s great and we do this a lot this would sort of be this Sensation that I would get something as simple as this so it feels like I was pulling a rope or he’s had weird he has weird analog he’s a weird guy and like like you men you give like a bunch of different potential fs and then you pull out the one that resonates with you ex that’s exactly right and so this kind of helped him with the thought process that yes you can pull out that shaft you can pull it apart because it’s a rubber band and I’m holding here and you’re actually letting the shaft out is the old term you know that one that’s sort of exactly what what we’re intending to do I love this so it’s it’s basically general feeling of kind of wide maybe not fully setting the wrist going back and then transition you start going the other way but the club still is traveling back and that’s where you get a lot of lag in the wrist nowadays I’ll get to this top position here and if my heel is a little up this is the start so when I stomp my heel down I can feel the club load oh awesome this is sort of for me personally I don’t know if it’s work for everyone but that is that’s that’s why they grunt when I know how to crack when when to crack the whips because I get up I’m I’m totally coiled up I’m you know I’m loaded here when this thing Stomps down this club starts to load here so it’s sort of the sensation I get is is really simple you know winding up nice and easy here and then boom boom this goes and then this cracks down so pretty simple I mean I can sort of exaggerate the feeling here but obviously you know if if I’m sitting here and I don’t get loaded enough and I don’t feel proper sequence the club will go this way and now you’re just fighting your face your face is there’s nothing there to to maintain it sort of to hold it you know Square as long as possible or to keep it open at all through impact so my feeling you know nice and slow I’ll lift a little bit of heel and right when I stomp I’ll feel the club lag here so oh that’s as simple as that the sequence is pure so we do a lot of sequence training to feel more to to have the sensory system take over rather than having the distance that you think a lot of like moving in two directions at the same time right with the step your lower body is going is your upper body still maybe transitioning the other way a bit with the club your hands start down but the club’s going the other way so it’s this this theme of like all these all your body parts almost moving in different directions to create stretch and an overall sense of of dynamic right is that fair yeah athletes have to move I mean there there’s just no way about it my swing Expedition continues on golf pass as Xander and Stefan Schley share their breakthrough moment on the golf course members can stream now on golfpass.com [Music] my dad goes do you want to be more of a Tiger Woods or do you want to be more of a Freddy Couples Freddy is awesome swing free flowing he doesn’t really care what he’s doing he just knows how to put the club face on the ball tiger on the other hand wants to know everything you know you worked with him so you know exactly how this all works I had I want to be more like Tiger Woods of course at a young age it would have been much easier to be more of a Freddy Couples I probably would have played been easier for me for sure and but I said I wanted my dad to explain everything to me and you know now I understand it more at 25 but it took eight years of just beating heads with him to sort of get to where I’m at now all right beautiful Xander got a lot of stuff going on here take us through it quite simple these are are all tools that you see that you know I travel with week to week I’m a simple guy you know my dad knows that these are tools that I have in my golf bag we have two alignment sticks usually travel two to three a glove box this system is very personalized it’s it’s a sort of a system a personal reset system of check whether I’m hitting it good or bad you know my dad and I will sort of replug myself into this little mini check system to make sure that everything is around par I guess kind of in the same ballpark with set up and all that also also when you haven’t hit for maybe two weeks I just yeah I just you went on a trip or whatever exactly I don’t like to hit as much you know I’ve as a young pro I’ve tried to learn how to relax a little bit more I would imagine even if you’re playing a lot or windy conditions or swings are in flux that’s just so the reality of it right it’s why you see someone play really great one week and then the next week they might miss the cut this is aggressive wow what a shot humans are the biggest variable us players and conditions there’s so much going on so this is just call it what you want but a baseline ogre would call it a template so here we have you know a couple black lines this is a sand wedge a five iron and a driver for me not only does this check where it is in your stance it also checks distance from the ball so I marked these when I was hitting it pretty well uh my rookie year or even on the web.com I think and I’ve had the same sort of markings ever since depending on what ball flight I’m trying to hit sometimes you know I’ll be a little bit closer a little further away but for the most part like you said Baseline so I’ll grab a sand wedge this is a six iron unfortunately but I’ll have a sand wedge and I’ll sort of close my eyes you know get a good feel walk up to it and I’ll take my stance give a little wiggle and then I’ll open my eyes and sort of see where I’m at so I imagine I had a sandwich in my hands and boom I’m right on the money right my toes are right where that black line should be once I do this you know moving forward to the golf ball now now I sort of have an idea of where I need to be in relation to it this glove right here is another Super Simple Thing told you earlier before the Masters I was hitting it horrendous you know I wasn’t really sweating it but I couldn’t really figure out I was just hitting everything left ogre was yelling at me uh cuz I was you know being stubborn and whatnot and so finally he just you know told me to shut up and and he put put this glove box down he says put your face up behind this so I I you know grabbed this a simple right Edge right here put my iron right behind it got the face Square to it he says now grab the club and he said look at the club I was like holy smokes this looks like a you know butter knife awful you know what I mean so during the during the whole year at the Masters this year I I played with what felt was a face I was I did trust it me to that objective measurement that that was right exactly and and at any point on the course you know I was trying to find like a tea box or some sort of straight edge some sort of straight edge where I can just put my face down and sort of register it and kind of like just casually walk away you know I was doing an all tournament because I I just didn’t have the right feels down at all right yeah but that’s also a cycle right we’ve been we’ve been actually since then we’re trying to figure out how long his Cycle takes to to actually see real again right it would be wonderful to say hey it takes uh two hours per day for a week and then we could actually say like we’re going to take next week off because we know we’re going to be fine in two weeks you know we we trying to get to Stu we’re trying but I mean there like you said there’s so many variables and moving Parts you know if I slept funny one night or I had extra two you know glasses of wine or something you know what I mean didn’t sleep at all SLE too much yeah play computer games there’s so much weird there’s so many weird okay take it easy there’s so many weird um run it through really quick set up make sure this is squared to the Lin stick set up Square here and if I want to really get into it you know get behind this make sure you know this six iron a little shorter but get into that and then so I’m like okay now I have everything very much neutral for my feel then I would bring it in here so now I would set up and I before I would even hit I would sort of set up into it face it neutral and everything and I’ll just like look down my target line and I’m like man it looks terrible you know what I mean yeah so but that’s what is correct you know what I mean of course I have my dad’s eye behind me and he goes that’s that’s that’s a square kid and I’m just like all right well time to hit time to hit some balls and this is sort of where we start [Music] from next week on swing Expedition we journeyed to South Florida to go inside the mind of Brad Faxon one of the greatest Putters of all time learn the mindset he uses on the greens and the mechanics he relied on throughout his career it’s next Monday on swing Expedition what’s next for me is to sort of take my shots at Majors contend more each week I don’t contend enough I think um me personally or I know he doesn’t think that for sure in order to leave your name in in history here on the game of golf is to sort of win Majors you know leave your mark is sort of what I feel like would be sort of the next big step in my career I’m having a lot of fun along the way but you know I’m talking you know next next 5 10 years is sort of what what we have in mind love it I mean I feel like you’re right there to me it’s only a matter of time thank you so much for for doing this it’s been been really insightful and been a great time yes sir thanks man are we got a group H oh my gosh you’re bringing it in

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