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Detroit and you know what that means Detroit media icon Ryan armanii University of Michigan great brayan Edwards and of course MZ are about to take over on Woodward Sports every day 2: to 4:00 p.m. it’s the best Detroit sports talk on Detroit’s best sports network Woodward Sports good afternoon everybody brother Ed here Armani Edwards with m r won’t be with us blans and well our good friend will be here today how you doing buddy I’m fantastic the sun is back out and I just love being here at Woodward well the best person on this show is and for always will be Tom mway Tom how you doing buddy hey Ray thanks for that hey Anson welcome in we got stick today stick on the on jar fan club president and uh we’re looking to have some fun today I’m looking to have some fun too look Let’s uh by the way Pete in the booth my right hand without Pete we would to do the show appreciate you Pete how you feeling doing all right my friend how are you I’m doing great man good buddy let’s know let’s not sugarcoat let’s not dance around it Jared G finally gets the deal he gets a deal to the tune of 212 over four years that makes it 53 million a year Golf Now goes from former number one overall pick to the highest paid Lion in franchise history and the second highest paid quarterback in the NFL and these are the details per Albert Breer uh of the Lions contract with Jared gos the 4year 212 million extension rates like the 73 million in signing bonus 125 million over the first two years 160 uh 5 million over the first three years 57 million in 2028 which is an option years so he won’t get that 100% well you know what Mass I’ll start off with you Jared G $53 million a year we talked about this last week I said it would be to the tune of 51 or more where are you at with the deal are you happy yeah or I’m happy that he got his deal done I’m happy because the lions are ready to win right now that’s their quarterback he’s taking them this far let him finish it up let him win a Super Bowl and then we’ll go from there the way I look at it it’s uh to me it’s 4 years 170 million that’s his guaranteed money and like you said he got what $75 million up front yeah that’s a pretty nice check to get uh him and Kristen Harper will have uh they could spend a lot of money here at Birmingham roast and Lady Janes here in Birmingham we’ll welcome them in anytime they want so I’m looking at it so it’s to me it’s a 43 million 425 million a year if you’re looking at four years 170 million guaranteed that’s all the lions are on the hook for uh and God willing if he wins a super bowl or two he could sign for the rest of his life as far as I’m concerned but they drafted a guy at henden Hooker and uh he looks like he’s going to be a a backup quarterback for now before we get to Anon Wells who I know he’s choing off at the bit and by by the way talk in the chat what do you guys think do you guys disagree do you not disagree we’ll bring some of those comments in and maybe even take some calls in the second hour of the show want to get your thoughts on the contract right uh like you said the president of the Jared golf fan base is my man Sam day AKA stick stick where you at with the deal and why as a lions fan and also as a person in the media you know I honestly I was telling you before the show I didn’t think I’d be this excited when he got signed why are you this excited for multiple reasons man because I’m a lifetime Lions fan because this man took us from the depths of Hell to winning two playoff games in one year he did something I’ve never seen in my lifetime he’s revitalized this city the whole crowd’s chanting for him Aman Ross St Brown comes out at the draft chanting Jared goof uh the pan su’s happy for him Taylor Decker tweets about him we’ve never had this in a lionson uniform Barry was a superstar we know that right but he wasn’t a galvanizing guy the team didn’t like he he was a personal guy Calin greatest wide receiver of all time but we know Kelvin he’s more of a softspoken leader Stafford when he was here he was supposed to be the leader never got as fired up as I wanted him to do in post games never the accountability that I needed out of my guy and then we get a guy like Jerry go man everybody’s doubted him they threw him away he’s been to a Super Bowl number one overall pick he’s only had two losing seasons in his entire life the first season with the Rams season wor coaching staff in the history of the NFL but the first so every time Jared G goes to a franchise they get better we can say that now cuz cuz it’s happened at two franchise so just the more I think about it and the and you know personally I’ve been on the cherof bandwagon for years so it’s nice to do this to the easys of the world and all the other people that really really just didn’t understand what they were witnessing when you saw a guy that can lead men the intangibles which the flannel Sams of the world will never understand cuz it doesn’t show up on paperwork and you know I’m not saying he’s Tom Brady right yeah but the intangibles are Brady es 100% and uh Fox too we appreciate we we apologize for that uh somebody in the chat just said something and I’m going get you going because obviously the negative comments there was going to few Anon Wells the comments about why he didn’t deserve this money are going to fuel you somebody said Matt Stafford never had pieces around him like Jared what a hall of fame wide receiver in the number two defense in the league and you couldn’t win a game there we go there we go and I agree with that I’m not going to this booth and do this all day I love it and you might want to sit in here all day but I agree with that Anon uh thoughts on that and then thoughts on Jared G deal well he’s in the booth but he’s certainly not silent stick on this topic I know that why you wear that shirt by the way is that a dve buster shirt because this is the liberation of America shirt this is America says America on it and you chose that to where today right because this is we we just won the Revolutionary War like we the brand new lions are here we’ve gotten through the British we’ve gotten through everybody we needed to and here we are I was saving this for independence day but it feels like my Independence I am free from the old Lions BS free free last looks like we finally beat General Corin Wallace would say you Anon Wells well you know stick is all in today he even brought something with him this is uh we’re not going to say it but these are from Jared Goff himself because he’s been riding them for years and rightfully so there we go if you’re a allance fan and you’ve lived through the absolute void of quality quarterbacks in this town what are you thinking if you are against this who you going to go sign who you going to draft yeah I mean this guy has two top five backto back offenses in the NFL thrown to who 2022 to Aman R st Brown DJ doesn’t have a job ch and uh khif the leaf Raymond who was he throwing to last year this team going forward aside from Decker and aside from Montgomery have everyone locked in for three years of absolute Excellence if you’re against this deal call us tell us why tell us about how he can’t put it down the field and I’ll show you some of the biggest and longest air completions in the NFL were made by this man I’ll show yak and you want to blame it all on R st Brown well you better get it into his hands in the right spot so he can turn it into Yak but in the top 32 Yak receivers in the NFL we have won 30 632 yards by Aman R st Brown you want to take a, yards off this guy’s total because a yak you better understand that that yak be came from his placement you got guys like Cutler and Stafford who can throw the ball down field but they can’t throw it to the flat without taking a 25 mph off of it I’m telling you this is the guy this is the guy for the system and I’m sorry to Mr Stanley Edwards brail’s father if anybody puts Herbert on a list ahead of him one more time I’m going to lose it don’t put him ahead of don’t put him behind Stafford either Stafford might have a Hall of Fame bodyw workk and he might be better longterm but I don’t want him here this is the top seven quarterback in the league he might not be able to run but what is Herz what have everybody that’s a mobile quarterback done aside from Pat momes not win games how many playoff wins does Justin Herbert your boy have what do you mean my boy you said Stan Edward that’s my father that’s not me no but you like Herbert better than than than uh than G GF we went over this a couple weeks ago we did and you still like him better said he has more potential more potential that’s fair at the end of the day thank you for bearing the lead about my father I’m mad about it I’m mad about it I love Jared G baby let’s go that’s fine everybody loves J golf today and I understand that as they should he won two playoff games the first in the modern era Super Bowl era for the Detroit lons I have no problem with the deal I myself said it would be a 51 plus deal because it’s about the market it’s about the going rate 2017 Matt Stafford signed a contract highest paid quarterback in the NFL what happened by two weeks later he was now the fifth highest paid quarterback this is what’s two days later this what’s going to happen in this when Tua has to get paid Trevor Lawrence has to get paid there other people that are going to get paid so I don’t mind the deal you ask me about Justin Herbert or Jared GF well yes I would take Justin Herbert over Jared GF would I take Justin Herbert in this system no this is a system that is designed for the success of Jared G just like any other system where you have winners a offensive coordinator and a head coach they designed the system around the quarterback and that’s what you have Jaylen Herz two years ago you saw what Shane siken did with that situation uh Patrick Mahomes Andy Reid Josh Allen and Joe you name the quarterback I’ll tell you the offensive coordinator that’s putting the system together Shawn McVey and Super Bowl champion Matt Stafford so no I would take jarro go over Herbert in the system Justin Herbert over Justin uh Jared G as a potential and as skills but we’re not talking about Justin Herbert we’re talking about Jared g tom my dad said something else that was interesting I loved what Stan said he said that Tom Brady would have taken a deal he said Patrick Mahomes took a deal after they won the Super Bowl for less money what are your thoughts on that Jared golf taking $53 million a year when they can use that money and elsewhere they obviously had the money slotted for their guys Bray and they EXT 30 million on the cap this year correct y they they got hit bad on this one but on the big three pan Su Aman Ross St Brown and Jared gof they have spent $44 million yeah 44 million on those guys that that’s a that’s a lot of cash uh on those guys it’s a lot of cash M but when you look at it every team has three guys that they pay you mean 440 that’s what I meant 440 million myad every team has that in terms of where you’re paying guys because those guys are the Catalyst for what you do you look at the Kansas City Chiefs and we use them as the example because they’re Super Bowl champs back to back years in a row they pay Travis Kelce they pay jarro G they pay um Chris Jones and then they pay the left tackle you gotta pay to play when you finish in the top four like the Lions did you pay those players that got you there and so you can continue to get there back in the day uh when the Lions had their other big three Matthew Stafford Calvin Johnson and domigan Sue the NFL uh changed the way you could pay your players so the Lions had to make a tough decision and that’s why we got to keep two of them and that’s why domigan Sue was crying at at the podium although a lot of people say he wanted to get out of here I kind of think that he finally realized hey if I stay here this team could be a Super Bowl team when they got that stolen away they got that stolen away in in Dallas 2014 they could not pay all three they decided to let Sue go and down the tubes they went after that this time they were allowed to play pay their big three it’s different it’s a different way to play poker now in the NFL what Tom Brady did in his career and I’ve never been a Brady guy as you know and this is what Stanley Edwards brings up Tom Brady always took less so the rest of the team could get taken care of and it paid off sure you had one of the greatest coaches of all time and seven or eight Super Bowl rings any way you want to catch it could have won a couple of more even of course if Eli wasn’t there uh but nonetheless what Stanley Edwards has said if you really want to look after your team you take less and you get more maybe down the line the Lions and him hopefully made a made some kind of deal here where he’s going to get either front loaded or a backloaded deal here because the cap is real like Neil rule yeah always says the cap is real and there’s only so far you can go before you start losing the little pieces on your team that have kept you around and that’s a lot of money but like I said it’s four years 170 million so about 42 and A5 million a year guaranteed that’s what Stanley Edris was saying Tom Brady took less and won more I’m going to go ahead and throw you a double pause for that comment I got you back don’t worry uh this is what I also said to my dad throw one more up there for me uh there you go there’s and front and back that conversation needed that what I tried to tell my dad is that or in discussion the way they’re doing it here is very different than the way they did it in New England the way they did in New England was free agency free agency moves trades things like that so you take less money so you can add those pieces here and there Brad Holmes is drafting these players Brad holes also isn’t breaking the bank in free agency so you can also pay a jarro go this you can pay a alar ra this you can pay pan Su this and still have some cuz we understand who’s going to come up next year and that’ll be Aiden Hutchinson so I think the way Brad Holmes does it is different and also I think this is just another stamp in terms of hey if you perform if you perform for us we will take care of you jerro goof has definitely indeed performed his time here with the Detroit Lions Anon and my only question is I was in here a year ago this time with with the heavyweight saying that we should have locked him up and extended him for 45 million yeah um hindsight always 2020 not only did the franchise Dan and Brad but also the rest of us fans the city of Detroit needed last year to fully buy into if they would ass sign him at $45 million it probably last year there’d probably be more people complaining than right now this is a guy like you said won two two games in the playoffs which only one guy’s been able to do in the last 75 years so um again NFL stands for not for long nothing nothing indicates failure than change and this team this team hasn’t they haven’t experienced any change they’ve just gotten better this off season yeah one% since I know you wanted to say something well I just I just wanted to talk to Maz and about you know what talk to ma then talking about taking a discount I think what people are missing let me go to the phone call stick stick is here in Birmingham stick first time long time welcome to the show yeah I’d like to address MZ um so two things about this one um the salary cap is going to evolve it’s going to get bigger there are six more high-profile quarterbacks that are about to be signed this year so by the time Jared gof takes a snap in this 2024 football season he’s most likely going to be about the seventh or eighth highest paid quarterback higher than that no no no no okay we can disagree second of all how’s Patrick Mahomes doing Maz he’s pretty good is he back toback Super Bowl champs yes did he give his team a discount uh he did he did no he did it at first he did at first seon he he kind of hect first did he give him a discount do in two years exactly he the first guy to take 500 everybody to the Brady standard you’re going to catch yourself in a lot of uh precarious situations so but there’s only one Brady right right yeah you don’t like them I do now you do now it was quick pivot did you see Tom Brady when they were ni with Michael stran I did did you see he’s still in roast form he roast to Dak Prescott heuck like Tom is going to be great on TV I think I’ve been roasted easy all day and it’s been a lot of fun I think they’re going to let him time’s like time time is Invincible in his mind and in real life so I think he’ll be able to say a lot more on air than certain people and it’s like nothing you’ll be able to do about it but get back they announced this first game they announced the first game that Dallas Cowboys and Cleveland Cleveland Brown Brown he said he said hopefully D can finally get it done that was his uh his shot yeah D’s going to get 60 million a year and yall real stupid about talk about a guy that doesn’t deserve that kind of contract what you make 59 last year a gonna make sense Prescott he did have the best statistics of any quarterback in the league last year I’m not a Believer but here’s my issue with Statistics is because of fantasy football statistics are becoming more and more overblown like who cares about these fantasy football quarterbacks that are doing in the regular season then they disappear in the playoffs like where the hell has Dak Prescott been his whole playoff career with the exception of the very first playoff he ever were part of when he almost came back and beat Green Bay when he got the first win I forgot who they played against where’s he been like Josh Allen my dad had Josh Allen on look look Josh Allen you want to go skills and potential and all that stuff then fine but what do Josh done in the playoffs he was in the AFC Championship five years ago last year he lost in the first round year before that he lost in the first round the year before that he was two rounds so you list these quarterbacks Trevor Lawrence one playoff win I said what about Kurt Cousins Kurt cousins has gotten well he’s the outlier one playoff win like when you go down on the list of these quarterbacks whether it’s and that playoff win Lamar shouldn’t even have happened against the Lamar Jackson I love Lamar Jackson back not back to back but two-time MVP deservingly so everything he does in the regular season phenomenal when you get to the playoffs it’s a different guy and yes he necessarily did not have the pieces but you can only continue to use that excuse for so long so when I look at it that way he deserves his money 100 % and you also know like Mass said look at 170 not 212 cuz there’s no way in heck he’s making it to that fourth year I promise you that well you look at the guys that have won it with the exception of Pat momes and some you know Mobility out of Rogers you go down the list Brady qu Manning no they’re what I Define Jared go as resilient composure stick talked about it this is a guy that’s improved two teams but has also been thrown out with the with the baby water and this guy has been written off but he’s still perform he’s improved and being in in a town where everybody is ready to kick out a quarterback in a in a town that had never seen any playoff uh success this guy has stepped up at Big moments taken this team places that no Detroit fan could ever really just fantasize about being this is not only the perfect quarterback for this system I I think he’s the perfect quarterback for this city yeah 100% And and also look too you know I hear people bring up the migy comparison migy got paid you know in 3 was was 32 33 after the MVP season or the triple crown and then he went but understandably so in baseball he had way more years on him than jarro G has on him Jared G is entering year nine or year 10 he’s 29 years old like he’s still in his prime and he finally has offensive coordinator who understands him and he’s gotten better and better he’s made made some players better you say what you want to Josh Reynolds jerem MC made him a better player what did what did Josh Reynolds do when he was at ten out of the football if he wasn’t a line in the last two years so you know looking at it that way it’s not broken down migy where you saw it was breaking down and you’re paying him for what he did with the Marlins and then you’re paying him for what he did the Triple Crown year but you also saw it was starting to go this way that’s not the same with Jared G and once again I repeat look at any system any team it’s fit for a quarterback you look at Brock py you don’t think Brock p is having success because of how Kyle Shanahan runs they going to pay him that’s an interesting one yeah Mr Irrelevant get paid he might get $50 million a year and you know what right once again here you go how many NFC championships has he been to a couple two in two seasons yep it’s like every quarterback has to have that guy that could structure a system around them there there’s no running back anymore that’s rushing for 2,000 yards or 18 00 that can help you out tremendously it falls on the quarterback in these systems that’s why you got a systematic guy for Ben Johnson’s Detroit Lion system that’s why they have the offensive line because that’s the whole team P Su and the offensive line that’s the thing that protects Jared gof long as you have that line Jared goff’s a top 10 quarterback top eight quarterback yeah and he is now entering his Peak years he is entering his Peak years so you got him this is the time you got to you got to win now now is you got to win put Jared G’s plastic baggie up there because he’s got a win yeah right now now is the time also now is the time to take a quick commercial break we’re going to keep coming right back to this jarro 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you on that um this is a great thing I think this is a great thing I want to go back to the fact that this also shows if you perform you will be taken care of and we understand what’s going to happen at the back end of the contract but he performed for the Detroit Lions you look at year one 3 13 and one he was throwing the ball to Quint cus who I thought was a decent run of wide receiver coming out of Wisconsin but Quint cus was our star wide receiver until alar R started taking over until Josh Reynolds came in in week or week 13 or so then you look at the second year nine and eight they almost sneak into the playoff jarro go finished top five in offensive uh statistics for the quarterback position and then we all saw what happened last year so this is the going rate this is what you do when you when you so sayy you come here you perform you turn up we’ll pay you also now if I’m a player on the team if I’m a guy only one of these oneyear deals if I’m a Carlton Davis type guy if I’m one of these guys is okay this is what they’re doing if you perform for the Detroit Lions Brad Holmes will bring you in because any guy that he brings in whether it’s a draft pick or whether it’s a free agent mask seems to be a handpick guy by Brad Holmes not a question about it you know they love drafting rather than getting a free agents but basically they gave up two third round picks to get their cornerbacks of the future and that’s Carlton Davis and of course their number one draft pick uh Terry and Arnold from Alabama those were the two picks that they gave away to get their future defensive backs and you know it’s a completely different secondary now that they have and it’s going to be a fantastic thing that was what dragged them down last year now you got Aiden Hudson and the rest of those guys could attack the quarterback a little easier knowing that you’re covered in the back field so hats off to what the Lions have done they are almost almost I say a perfect roster what do you think would make them a perfect roster man another receiver another receiver yep and a kicker and I think we’ve talked about this uh Brad Holmes said it he’s very well he as well as Ben Johnson very comfortable with the wide receiver group they like Don peop Jones and what he can potentially bring to the table they like this is Jameson winst St breakout year and you know what you’re getting out of number 14 no need to bring him up but something those people don’t think about when you think of the wide receiver position jir Gibbs is a wide receiver yep Sam leap Porter is a wide receiver so when starting to look at it that way Anon I don’t want to always have to agree with Brad Holmes then again I always want to agree with Brad Holmes I think I agree with him as of right now realistically there’s not one perfect roster out of all 32 in the NFL tell that to the 49ers cuz uh backsliding yeah but they’re backsliding they’re backsliding a little bit absolutely um 49ers have had a rookie quarterback they were paying all these years for the past couple years that’s how they’ve gotten to the title game all both those times that’s why they couldn’t bring back Armstead this year cuz they have to pay somebody name someone’s got to go yeah good call we have a top five offense in the last two seasons with a whole bunch of guys that probably wouldn’t be the fourth receiver on most teams you’ve taken rookies and developed them in lightening speed in the course of one season to create this just pocket of comfort in terms of of targets and and players that that he has around him this is a guy in Jared gof that’s 291 year older than Joe Burl people really don’t realize that so when I look at what he’s done his body of work over the last three years especially the last two this is a guy that has done a whole lot with not much now Jared Goff is surrounded did he’s not looking at H and hooker like he was last year like well I got to play my butt off so that they don’t bring this kid up everyone’s secure on this team because they’re getting paid for what they produce and it’s all in-house guys it’s guys that are part of this culture that they hand selected I mean it’s just such a good time to be Alliance fan I want to take it one step further when we were Stafford people yeah we were arguing whether he was a top 12 quarterback in the league hadn’t won a playoff game now we got a guy who just won two playoff games and we argue adamant whether or not this guy’s a top eight quarterback or now so we I don’t want to argue eight versus top 12 but what I’ve seen for the first time in my life aside from samic Kramer time is the majority of this city has embraced Jared goth the only thing that people are disputing is whether he got overpaid or not but this make no mistake is our quarterback in Detroit yeah I don’t want to overshadow our next caller we do have Rod Allen on the phone so we’re going to take a quick break so we can get to the Detroit Tigers who beat the Marlins 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it he’s the voice of the Florida Marlins and Bal Sports Florida of course longtime Detroit Tigers uh analyst here on Fox Sports Detroit and Bal after that we love him it’s Rod Allen we see you Rod we see you what’s up my friend you already know you already know Tom I’m just chilling man I’m happy to be back uh in in Michigan and and broadcasting the game for the first time since I left so it was very special for me last night I got a lot of ties here you know it man I know you uh you and Craig Monro a tight as well and uh I know he’s learned a lot off of you over the years and uh we have the pleasure of having him both on television and in radio he’s two different people though when he’s on TV he’s Simo when he’s on radio he’s Craig Monroe he’s all right man you did a good job teaching that kid you know what that’s one of the things that I’m most proud of of the time that I spent here is the fact that I called Craig he was sitting at home on the couch and he had just retired and I knew he had a nice personality and I knew we were looking to hire a sideline guy or a guy to work in the studio he came in he killed the interview and he’s been here for I don’t know how long now over a decade so I’m proud of that I mean I taught him everything that I knew uh even though some people wouldn’t do that but uh it was fun working with him but not only him man so many special memories here with Willie Horton and you know it’s a special City man it’s a special team it’s a special franchise and I was a part of it for 16 years arguably the best 16 years they’ve ever had you’re not kidding R you’re not kidding uh compare this team it’s tough to compare them but can try to compare this tiger team that you’re seeing now to the tiger team that they had that great 10-year run do you see any similarities in this new Tigers team no not really I mean I mean scoel and I don’t want to be disrespectful they got some really good players on the field Riley green uh is a really nice player uh Tolson obviously got off to a slow start but he’s got crazy power but if you look at what we were running out there on a nightly basis with either Prince Fielder or Miggy in the lineup or Victor Martinez the Granderson of the world palanos GS magley oronia not to mention Verlander and sherzer and and and and and and price and Annie BOS Sanchez I mean it was incredible Dave debrowski is a Hall of Fame general manager and the teams that he has put together in the past are incredible and he has another one of those teams right now in Philadelphia Phillies look at that Phillies team and that’s a comparison to the teams that we had good point good point there Rod r good to talk to you as always um uh we talk about this team and this team buying in to the Detroit Tigers you see they’re 21 and 20 but the pitching has been way better than hitting has been is this a team that you can fully buy into actually being a competitor in the central or is this one of those levels where they’ve only been playing against the Central Division and and water will find its level as the season progresses they’re going to be able to compete in my opinion I have not watched them a whole lot other than when I was doing my homework to uh get ready for this series but I do peek at them out of the corner of my eye and listen to Craig from from time to time but they’ve done what a lot of teams have done brayan they have kind of built this team from the back to the front and that’s what the Bullpen Bullpen is really good they win the games they’re supposed to win and that’s what you’re supposed to win or do when you’re kind of a rebuilding team and they’re still kind of in those of the outer stages of rebuilding but they still uh need some real big pieces like some nice free agents as far as bats are concerned and they probably will do that in the offseason depending on where they finish but their Bullpen will be intact their starting pitching is starting to be as good as they thought it would be so now once they get the offense rolling and they do have some guys that they’re high on although they do need some help they need some other pieces to come in here once they do that I mean I think you guys are going to see a really good brand of baseball for the next 5 years or so AJ hinch he’s a nice Skipper everybody knows that Scott Harris I mean the new president in charge I mean he’s crafty he does nice things so I think you guys are in good hands and I don’t think it’s a fluke I love that Rod I gotta say you’re one of my three all-time favorite announcers uh two legends Ernie Harwell and George Blaha right up there with you oh my goodness I mean I put you in high company my friend now what I got to say about you though is is that you have transcended more than just an announcer I mean you’ve got Clips online of of some of your sound bites obviously your time as a player um I’m not going to go too far into those but please don’t I just want to I just want to ask you you know I imagine when you’re out with the other announcers and you’re traveling and stuff do fans just have a different reaction to you than most other guys behind the mic uh I I do I get a lot of attention I do I get a lot of attention it really doesn’t matter whether it’s um in Miami or here in Detroit or I could be walking uh in Hawaii and somebody will hear my voice and say I know that voice and they’ll come over and say you’re Rod Allen and I say yeah I am Rod Allen but I mean to make a long story short I mean I I’ve just had a lot of fun up there I mean I was graening the first couple of years when I got here um but you know once I kind of hit my stride and and and started to understand what I was doing and entertaining the fans and having fun with the fans and you know some of my saying I mean they’re more the same kind of saying that you know most guys say when you’re in the clubhouse or when you’re in the locker room just some crazy stuff that we might say to one another but I just kind of brought it to life you know on on the baseball field then when I started the big fill thing with Miguel Cabrera and and Country Strong with Marcus Tims I mean people just love that stuff you know they just loved it I mean the second deck stuff I mean people I don’t know why the people here man just went crazy over some of the things that I said but they did go crazy but I have fun here man 16 years is an incredible run especially for a career minor league player I only spent maybe 100 days in the big leagues 100 days as a player in the big league I was able to Parlay I was able to Parlay that into 25 years in the broadcast boo so I’m awfully blessed uh I worked hard at it they didn’t give me anything by any speci imagination but I’m really really honored and and blessed that I’ve been able to do this for so long when really mostly Superstars do this job I mean Superstar players hey Rod take us back to 06 Tigers to the to the 14 Tigers Al what a great run that was one of the better runs I I’ve ever been a part of and you know I’m a New York Yankees fan and uh that was Yankee esque except they could not take it off the sheet and win the big one what do you think what do you think happened that they could not win those World Series against definitely inferior teams well first of all the the success start with Jim Leland Dave debrowski obviously got him off his couch and brought him back because he thought he was energized yeah and boy was he energized and he came in an ‘ 06 he sent every player a letter in the mail this is before uh the season started and he told them that uh he felt good about the team and he wanted them to start walking around like the New York Yankees I want when you guys come out of the Dugout I want you to pretend like you’re the Yankees and start playing like the Yankees going into spring training and I remember in spring training they had a really good spring now you remember Demitri young one time ran over somebody at home they started to believe in spring training and then when he was able to get Verlander and zai on his team I think he thought he really had a good team so then the team just kind of you know we kind of treaded water for a while there and then all of a sudden team just got hot man it started yelling and people start playing and people start to get big hits and of course Jim was the leader of all of that I mean he was the guy that kept that team together he was the guy that made that team feel like it could run through a a brick wall but at the end of the day the things that cost us the Championships were the fact that we did not um um play well obviously against St Louis um that was just a really bad series there was no uh you I mean that team didn’t look like that all year long I mean pitchers were throwing the ball everywhere balls people were falling just was a bad series just it was not a good look for us and and we could have used somebody in the back in that book and there’s no doubt about that then when you got to the the other series I don’t uh the s San Francisco Giants just kind of out outplayed the syap the World Series so yeah it’s I don’t know why we couldn’t win the big game man but far as as far as as much talent that was on that field and Mr IL with the open of pocket books it’s a shame we couldn’t win that big one but what’s funny about that is all those guys that were on that we had one year we had annabal Sanchez on the pitching staff porcel sherzer Verlander and I’m missing somebody else but anyway all those guys left and they won championships in other places yeah yeah absolutely ain’t that something uh if I’m listening to you correctly man what you’re talking about is Stars you had stars on that team you have people that could come and these are best players in the NBA I mean excuse me in the MLB or they ranked in there that’s what you need to win here in Detroit Terk scoble potential Riley p uh excuse me uh Riley P Patterson yeah Green Riley green I’m sorry and then obviously torque right now the three guys for the Detroit Tigers I understand about patience that’s what Scott Harris is probably going to have to have and it definitely be a move at the uh at the at the Free Agent Mark to make but are those three guys in your estimation are the three guys that can become Stars Terk scuba I believe is one yeah those guys are good players I mean not only those guys but they’re hiring the Keith kid they’re highing Carpenter uh they’re highing those guys as well they feel like those guys are going to be big time performers at some point in time obviously the pitching staff is getting itself back in shape with those youngsters they’ve had years ago M and Manning but are they going to have to continue to draft well there’s no doubt about that they need a couple of aircraft carriers they need a couple of guys in that middle of that batting order to hit the ball the ballp they thought torlon was that guy and he could still be that guy um but they definitely need some more players if they’re going to compete we talked about the teams that were here uh in Detroit when I was here I just gave you a comparison of those teams that’s the Philadelphia Phillies it’s the Atlanta Braves it’s the Los Angeles Dodgers it’s the New York Yankees and you look at those teams and those teams are tremendous yes they got high pay rolls there’s no doubt about that but those are the teams that are usually getting to the postseason I’m not saying you can’t get there uh with 85 86 wins as the we did last year in Miami and as the excuse me the Arizona Diamondbacks did they parlay that into a world championship of participation but you you got to spend money man you got to get guys like Verlander and and Cabrera and them kind of guys walking around man if you really want to be taken seriously you can go out and compete but but if you really want to be a good team and when you want 3 million fans coming to the ballpark like those days those are the kind of players you got to have yeah hey Rod last one I know you got to get get out of here how they treating you in Florida how about those Marlin fans not not a lot of them though man but they don’t know what they miss it you know what they’ll come out when we play better I mean because we showed that last year um there’s a lot of distractions down there in Miami I mean there’s a lot of things to do there’s a lot of things to do other than going in that ballpark and watching a last place team I mean when you got the beach and you got all the other thingsand you’re going to do that and people’s dollars you know are very valuable to them so they want to spend their dollars wisely but once they start to produce and once they start to put some good players on the field they love jazz Chism I mean if the team play well they come see Jazz alone because he’s a special uh special talent but we need to have some better players if we’re going to get some of our fans to come uh to the ballpark and they could not have been better to me m i mean they welcome me with uh Open Arms a few years ago obviously after my situation here um and have not said one word about it and just loved on me and allowed me to do my thing and work and the people are special and uh uh it’s a wonderful place to land I I I I’ll finish with this when I was uh praying for my next opportunity I was asking the Lord to to give me around some water I mean because I’m from Santa Monica California and I wanted to be around some water and man he got me around a lot of water man bless man there’s no doubt about that oh God bless you man hey we we wish these things never happened to you here we wish you were still here with us and uh you know things happen for a reason I guess man we wish you all the best just don’t beat us uh we need to win these next two games all right rod us we might have to try to steal one man we you shouldn’t have won the one last night guy on the M man Maldonado he has a good slider he threw he threw 20 out of 23 sliders what do you think TL is goingon to be sitting on I mean come on boy that that was a no doubter though yeah a no doub oh that’s the farthest ball he’s ever hit they said yep amazing man hey have a great night tonight we not too great thank you for coming around with us man and we’ll chat with you again I can be I can be great I can be great you can as always man keep enjoying that Florida miam all right we’ll see you Rod all right peace fell we see you all right later all right you already know yeah have fun man uh Rod Allen B sports analyst now with the Florida Marlins long time here in Detroit heard that yeah we doot you do when you hear the voice in fantastic you you asked a great question answer and ask him about that it got him into stuff and I think it got him into his love and appreciation for the city of Detroit and the Detroit Tigers man great question a little you he almost got him talking about second deck he did he dropped it and you can go online and download it for yourself it’s there it’s available all you got to do is Google second deck and he comes up I know everybody everybody in the chat everybody in the chat and everyone in Detroit wants us to ask him what happened with him and Mario we’re not going to do that you heard him he’s like the people of Florida left him alone because they know why he was there and why he left here in DET Detroit it sucked because Mario and Rod to me were the they were the best in baseball and that’s saying something man I got a pretty damn good ear when it comes to broadcasters loves they were top three in in baseball for regional coverage they were fantastic together and it sucks that it that it happened the way it did yeah Mass says it I believe it so they were the best at the time look we’re going to get a quick commercial break we’ll get back also we’ll get back into some Jarry golf we’ll get back into the lions obviously he signs extension we talked a little bit about 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for so long where are you at with the deal because a lot of people say they agree a lot of people say they disagree where you at with where I’m at with the deal is I’m more so feel I asked a question to people of that don’t like it what would you prefer and speaking of people you know what I forgot to say let’s open the phone lines up as we’re having this conversation about Jared golf about the deal the number here is 31355 26322 we are opening up those line want to hear more so from the negative people but we want to hear from everybody Jay green my bad keep going no yeah you good so I uh more so just ask the people that disagree with it like what would you have preferred that we do cuz like all right we don’t sign Jared G this year and Whata call just let it play out and then say he have a good year now we have to pay him even more than 53 million now that’s three years in a row he had yeah so it’s like or you could have franchise tagged him and then God forbid he go crazy on the franchise tag and now we got to pay him even more like we got to pay him like the all the way uh we got to pay him for sure indefinite uh number one money so it’s like I feel right now like how y’all talked about earlier he’s not going to be number two by time he probably takes a snap he probably going to be around that five six range like you said cuz other quarterbacks that got to get paid and plus like you said too he’s earned it he’s went out there played granted the first year only the first half of the first year was kind of bad and then what you call other than that he’s been playing good been giving us results so when you got guys like that that come out there and give us results turn around help turn around the franchise the way to reward them is with pay I would preferred to probably see it be a little bit more incentive based but honestly feel like you said look at it more of a 4E 170 million and I feel that’s like perfect for Jared Goff and what he’s done for our team so far absolutely oh we got a call absolutely we got somebody on the phones here we got some we got somebody on line patch in here and see if they’re they’re for it or against I know I’ve been hearing plenty of people against it I don’t get that so we’ll see what you guys have to say in the chat all right here we go first caller are you there what’s your name what do you want to talk about I’m Brian from uh Jacksonville H Detroit the say in Jacksonville what’s good Brian there we go what’s going on man how you feel how you feel about the deal you you energized or you in the the small minority that thinks he shouldn’t got paid that much oh no I’m energized about it because look the we have to think about the future the market is going to increase tremendously over the next few years with the guys who are up for contracts so in a couple of years people gonna look back on this and see that this is going to be a complete like awesome deal to get a quarterback of this caliber who fits this team fits the personnel and can leave this team to the promised land I believe yeah 100% And that’s and that’s just it right there it’s this team it’s this Personnel Jerry golf is getting paid 53 million because he fits Ben Johnson system because he fits behind this offensive line and he fits with this wide receiver CT which you’ve seen take off over the last two years with alar R st Brown and then last year with Sam leor and he fits with this city people AR people aren’t debating whether this should be our quarterback or not they’re just wondering whether we spent 5 million too much but everybody in this city wants to see him under Center again aside from maybe about four people that think believe in henden henden we’ll see but we’re going to see him the same way that Green Bay got to see Jordan love yeah we appreciate your phone call uh yes obviously Jordan love had to wait behind Aaron rers for four years he goes out there and then in the second half of the Season he lights it up and he proves that he is Matt LEF flor’s guy the henden hooker thing is is still very interesting yeah you draft a guy that could have been a first round quarterback if he doesn’t te his ACL he probably wins the Heisman trophy for being honest doesn’t tear his ACL wins the highman trophy he’s a first round draft pick instead you get him in the third round that’s where hind hooker is where are you with the hend hooker situation is he a guy that’s the backup quarterback waiting for jarro G to finish because obviously we don’t I the conversation is is jarro go going to get the four years they got a guy waiting in the wings where where are you at with hend hooker in that process we got a Master Class here in Detroit being the in the NFC North over the last 20 years watching how Green Bay handled their quarterback situation they I mean they traded even some guys that that were good and Matt Flynn and and some others uh what what they are able to do in taking these high-profile quarterbacks and sit them and let them learn and not throw them to the Ws now obviously when he steps in even if it had been this last season he’s getting the keys to a Ferrari but there’s no pressure on him and now that we’ve got an extension for GF there’s no pressure on GF we’re not spending our off Seasons trying to find the right backup quarterback and sign him for five six eight million to bring him in we got our guy we’re going to develop him not only is he super athletic and and a very good quarterback but I think that he absolutely fits in with our culture you saw him he was a leader at Tennessee uh I love our situation there is zero quarterback controversy in Detroit for the first time in my lifetime it depends on what show you’re listening to because the heavyweights were calling for your boy henden Hooker Middle of the season last year but no I actually thought Joel brought up a great point because this is my problem with people that complain when you ask him what the solution is they don’t have one they just know what solution that’s not what I’m supposed to give you they just know goff’s the problem okay you’ve told me the problem how do we get better from here nobody can give you that answer cuz how many quarterbacks are better from here maybe five in the league if we want to get into some debates and who controls their offense like Jared G maybe two or three in the league that’s a great point and who means what they mean to the city like Jared G I’d argue zero maybe Patty Mahomes that’s about it yeah Patrick Mahomes on a football level but he didn’t Revitalize Kansas City you know what I mean he just opened up a restaurant with Travis KY and that’s great that’s great but but what Jerry go that’s why like the complainers of the world’s like the easy you know oh we need someone better who’s better and so those are the people that I hate and here’s another fun stat Jared the only quarterback in NFL history to throw for 30,000 plus yards and have fewer than a 100 interceptions for his career the only one to ever do it so you got to appreciate that Brazilian composer baby and that’s one of the big things about Jarry golf if you look at over the last three years and I saw that com that comment I brought up earlier I’m going to bring it back someone said but Matt Stafford didn’t have those weapons and then you went off and I love it what did you remember what Jared golf had year one as a Detroit Lion in 2021 do you remember quintes cus do you remember having to bring Josh Reynolds in at the end of the season desperate for a guy like Josh Reynolds that couldn’t even play anywhere else I’m on R Brown if you want to be honest really only got that chance and got God darn it we happy we got that chance remember quintes he was ter as ACL te’s ACL then you have to play young Amar R Brown then you have to go get Josh Reynolds then what happened to barryman uh what is it Perman that you bought in what what happened to that guy what happened to The Other Guys these the tight end situation I teach you this is what he had to work with yeah and then you saw how you finished that year and obviously you see what happen so Joel look I jerro go I’m not going to sit here and talk about the skill set I’m not sitting here and AR and that’s what what this conversation is about the big thing that people don’t get is the not the skill set it’s how he fits your offense it’s what he’s done in that system it’s what he’s done with this team and in this team in three years he’s won two playoff games and they were all and they were both in the same year it was last year it’s not who’s a better player it’s not who’s faster cuz we’ve proven there’s only been what three mobile quarterbacks to win the Super Bowl in the last 25 years who brings the W and what else does this guy have to do yeah Ser like that’s my question cut off his arm and throw it his left like what is this guy he took the Lions to the NFC championship game he won two playoff games in for home playoff games in Ford Field he established more playoff victories in his three years than the entire history of the Super Bowl era Lions what more do you need to see like as a player brillan like have you ever played with a guy that’s done so much and gotten so little credit uh no I could crack the joke and say myself but I won’t do it but but but that’s not the case I get I get all the love and more than I deserve so no not that I I I hav’t I was asked this question offline crazy to me somebody asked me actually it was you it was you you can ask the same question ask the question I’ll answer it on there the Mark Sanchez Mark Sanchez question I said how would you have felt if while you were playing Mark Sanchez got a contract like this as a player and before you go crazy out there in Detroit him comparing jarro golf to Mark Sanchez is not necessarily what he’s doing he’s comparing the success they had in that window in the two-year window mark Sanchez went the AFC Championship twice which mean and we start as wild cards which mean that’s four playoff wins four playoff wins is the quarterback in NFL is pretty amazing but when you look at it and how I answered it is he didn’t have the production from a quarterback standpoint that would warrant that money but yes we went to the AFC Championship defense in 09 was lights out derl reedas should have won the MVP the defensive MVP I stand on that it is what it is and guess who won that year uh it was it was a friend of mine Charles Woodson derl re Prett goodles he’s the best of all time my op doubt but yes should have won defensive that’s how we won we won with the running game we led the league in rushing Thomas Jones Shan green Iowa led the league in rushing the second year once again San Antonio had 900 I had 900 Dustin Keller had 400 we weren’t winning through the air we were winning a mixture of the danan on the ground us through the air and then the defense so he didn’t deserve it with the league is now Jared G is performing at the highest level two years R you said it finishing top five as a quarterback in the leag offensively statistically and you look at the yards of alar Rin Brown you look at the yards of jir Gibbs Sam Le Porter Josh Reynolds in terms of how many first downs he had per catches so I don’t think Mark warranted that money jarro go I think does definitely definitely yeah watch what happens when this defense provides our offense an extra possession per game watch what happens when you have an entire team that’s been together as long as they have and the big three are paid not looking over their shoulder I’m glad you asked that question let’s let’s step away from the jarro Go stuff for a second let’s get into that defense obviously you bring in DJ reer from the Cincinnati Bengals you bring overhaul your secondary Davenport Meek Roberts you bring Carlson Davis thei so we believe that on paper this is the best move this was a not brilliant this was a very good off season for Brad Holmes and Detroit Lions but at the same time are we fully sure that we could depend on these injured players if you will cuz three of them were injured last season at some point whether it was the beginning whether it was the end and Miss significant time are we sure that Brad Holmes got it right or we giving him credit because we love Brad Holmes well when you look at what our defense was last year I mean it it wasn’t a top half unit yeah um it it got better it got better as the season went on they started to gel but then there was a lot of injuries where guys that probably shouldn’t be on NFL rosters were contributing you know like like vildor I mean vor’s but yeah when when you look at what what they were able to do in that stretch I’ve seen them improve it every single all three portions of the defense off defensive line is better and healthier and the young guys are a little bit more experience the secondary went from a weakness to possibly our our you know our strength on defense I think that the linebackers are going to be probably the same um but on paper healthy or not this defense is better and the defense that I saw in the second half last year the additions tells me this could be a top 12 even a top 10 unit what do you think Jay green about this defense man I’m GNA come to you you know talk at the end of the day DJ reader a lot is being put on DJ reader in terms of him being here him being the guy that not only stops the Run he actually is a pretty good guy in terms of QB pressure so lot being put on him are you confident in his defense or do you think this is Brad Brad Holmes hoping that this way works and so he can pay these guys to the tune of 444 million I would say I feel our defense is definitely a solid unit for the point it’s at right now cuz like uh Anson said near the end of the year we our defense was improving it was always like a solid run defense so to say so we always had that covered it was just our pass defense was putrid so it was clear in the uh free agency in the draft that that’s what we uh wanted to focus on getting two uh Corners in free agency and draft in two corners showing that that uh pass defense was a major concern and that’s also why I’m also concerned or not concerned but confused on the people wondering why we gave G’s contract saying he should have took a deal for the team saying we still had holes to field but it’s like over the offseason our main hold to field was uh defense signed one of the best defensive linan in the league n DJ reader we got aen mcneel coming back got James Houston coming back have yeah what you call got we we going to have him for a whole year cuz last year got game to on a special team’s play so it’s like I feel I’m not really too worried with our defense I’m more excited to that’s what is I’m more excited to see how our defense looks I’m excited to see how that pass unit look I feel this year to give it a number I feel we probably could be seven to 10 range with the talent that we have top seven top 10 love that yeah I mean defensively I think this is the first year you can say you have a brad Holmes defense on the field they’ve still been working with Jamie Collins Parts since trying to figure out that mess that was left to get to get it to where it needs to be so I I think defensively we’ll see a leap forward this year definitely I think so too do you agree with that the leap forward this year in terms of the injuries the contracts that we’ve been dealing with that’s been nagging that’s one thing that I don’t think Aaron Glenn gets enough credit for is doing a lot with a little every year there’s been injuries and then we didn’t necessarily have the Manpower in the beginning AG has done so much with so very little I can’t wait to see him and what he can do with some brand new sh toys and and reer reer is one of the top four in his position his impact is going to bleed all over the field onto all other 10 guys in that defensive unit it’s going to make the defensive line better it’s going to make the secondary better it’s going to make the linebackers better what what he means to this defense even if we made no other moves would be substantial but what we’ve done with that secondary and allowing those guys to grow into it you’re going to see a unit that might be top 12 for the season but probably is top seven in the last quarter of the Season yeah top seven and that’s how you win oh that’s how you get over the hump that’s how you get to the top four offense baby yeah had a top four offense last year but because of the defense and the inconsistencies and you still yeah we’re Knocking on Heaven’s Door uh let get to the offense just for two seconds and then we’ll get to a break but we’ll get this in you know who a person is I think they’re forgetting about stick and J forgetting about Ben Johnson like we’re making this so much about the wide receivers that we have we’re making it so much about is jarro go the guy for the fifth time You’ asked that question you forget about the guy that said all this emotion that’s Ben Johnson and his eliteness and him staying this year talk about what he means and how he has more entertain it’s not just jarro go they work together you know I feel Ben Johnson definitely got a lot in the tank I feel honestly he sees the real potential in our team which is why he denied the head coaching opportunities he had years yeah for two years in a row cuz he I guess in my opinion he looked at those opportunities like okay I don’t have the the team and the system that I have around J Daniels yeah it’s like I feel he knew as a head coach he would have probably been out of there in like two to three years so it’s like let me just stick with this team I feel he probably feels that we honestly have a Super Bowl Contender and the two years before Aman R got into the point that he was last year we were still able to have a competent solid offense with essentially I don’t want to say know pieces but not pieces that like a lot of the majority of household names aren’t going to know so it’s like we more of a system and it’s not really go off name so as long as the players can go out there and know how to work that system our offense will be good and I you also say people forgetting about Ben Johnson Ben Johnson man people are also forgetting that we got J Mo about to be ready for a whole to go through a whole training camp with us a whole season with us there’s no BS going on before the season Ben Johnson like a chef right right you know it up he’s cooking it up and he hasn’t had his ingredients yet but he’s still cooking up a pretty damn good meal and it’s the same thing with Dan Campbell and the rest of the coaching staff now they’re being handed the ingredients and would you rather stay at a restaurant where you’re the Sue chef but you get the best ingredients in the world or are you going to go try to start your own restaurant and reinvent the wheel with ingredients you don’t even know that’s a perfect way to put it stick right why sometimes it’s all about the recipe you know like it’s it’s like baking a cake you you mess up one measurement the Cake’s going to come out flat it’s going to come out nasty this time with the Lions they have all the right ingredients you just hope it comes together to make the perfect thing damn that was a good analogy metaphor excuse me I got yeah I’m hungry as heck too now uh I want to get back to the Jameson Williams thing I want to ask you Anon obviously we know what happened year one year two there was here there was there and then you see the last game and that was the NFC Championship scored two touchdown one on the reverse one on the pass in the back of the Zone what are your realistic expectations for what Jameson can provide and bring to the team this year every year is the same question every quarter of the year it’s the same question you wonder did we get it right by moving up 12 or 20 spots to get Jameson Williams like what is your expectations realistically for number nine this year okay I don’t want to get into whether it was the right draft pick because that’s in the past we are here now with him okay I like it you can underestimate how impactful it is missing games through injury or suspension but more importantly not being able allow not being allowed to practice with the team that sets a player back that sets veterans back you got a guy that’s injured coming off a major injury in his first year really didn’t get any that OTA training camp pre-season time in and then the same thing happens in his second year this is a young man only in his third season that after he really got some traction and and some time with the offense you saw him just Blossom at the end of the season you saw him start to dare I say it kind of dominate in the playoffs so regardless of what you think and what it cost to get up to get him at 12 couple years ago he’s here now and this truly is a guy that has has the ceiling and the talent that the whole could make the whole league scared and he’ll be our number two wide receiver uh I believe that him and Jack Campbell and I Know Jack Campbell is not a name that we throw around a lot but I think that those two guys are the the guys that have been slept on by lions fans and by the NFL that if both of them can take that step to what they were drafted to be you’re going to see so much difference and dominance by both units yeah and also Jam Williams you know he is 23 years old and he’s entering year three he is still a young he’s still a young individual when I was entering year three I was 24 and a year and a month older than him so a lot of time and also like you said and I love it finally he has an off season yes sir where he can be with the team the whole time at 100% full speed look we’re going to take a quick commercial break we’ll hear from wake up W and when we come back we’ll take a break from the Lions I know you love the Lions so do I but some of that NFL schedule more and more is coming out we’ll jump into that and some stuff but first like we said wake up Woodward Peete that’s right everybody it is wake up Woodward the morning show here 8: to 10: a.m. Monday through Friday mornings on Woodward Sports you can join Sam flannel Matt broer Koolaid JB and Kenny G again every Monday through Friday 8: to 10:00 a.m. mornings right here on Detroit’s number one sports station and that would be Woodward Sports we’ll be right back you you smell know that that’s Brad Holmes cooking and the off seon smells good Woodward Sports ra n here Premier Pet Supply man just looking around who’s got it better than Pets Come on a baby stroller for cot a chef for Lola really you don’t have to tell me who the real boss here is who’s got it better than pets nobody especially here at Premier pet supply for over 30 years and more than 13 locations Premier pet supplies has everything that your pet can dream of and guess what it’s all Under One Roof 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your favorite team play the answer is nothing and also now at srois Nashville hot is back limited time only I keep telling you that I’mma come on here one day and there’ll be no more Nashville hot you’re going to be so pissed cuz the sandwich the pizza the chicken TTS and the Nashville hot fries are fire pun intended but if that’s too H for you you can do the salads the size it doesn’t matter they’re popping up all over metro Detroit for a reason that’s because Nashville hot is back and it is popping crois also sis.com you can see the menu for yourself welcome back I want to throw one more point on herey you goad you welcome us back this is your show go ahead brother I you know talking about J and I know we’re going to move on here but uh art vanderlay who is an importer and exporter by the way um he he had a great Point hereo um it’s it’s not just J Mo that needs to get that time Jared G needs to get that time too because J Mo’s such a special weapon his speed you got to adjust to that so I think that jarro gof getting some time with him getting those reps they’re both going to get better and they’re going to get that timing down I I’ve been a j Mo hater I didn’t like where what we did and what he’s done since we had to make that move to get him but boy the ceiling of with this kid in a full off season together not just for him but for Jared as well love that point art it’s funny you bring that up because you bought the Mark Sanchez question and what would I have done would I been happy or not when I I got traded to the New York Jets after the fourth game of the season thank God I got traded to the Jets going into game five Mark and I didn’t have rhythm we didn’t have timing we didn’t understand each other so it took a large part of that season and it wasn’t until you get to the offseason now we have OTAs now we have mini camp now we have hey he comes out to San M or I go out to Sano and work out with him and uh at his at his high school we work out soon as the season started in terms of training camp in 2010 we was cooking was cooking with grease cuz now we had trust in one another now we also had that Rhythm and timeing so Rhythm and timing and Trust are three things that make that wide receiver quarterback relationship a good thing how cool is it to have an allpro NFL player here to be able to ask this question who do you think it took more adjustment from arriving was it him adjusting to you or was it you adjusting to him obviously was both ways but who do you felt needed to make the bigger adjustment probably quarterback position yeah quarterback position really learning wide receivers learn where where I like to catch passes where I’m best at catching passes what routes are best like in terms of what you can do what you can’t do I think as a wide receiver we we adjust the quarterbacks all the time so it’s a little easier for us especially if you’re a right-handed quarterback I think it’s harder for the quarterback to adjust to the wide out and so to that point I would imagine that probably 70% of the practice time that jamos had he probably was getting thrown to by the number two quarterback this true this is true we don’t know who that was at the time all right time to get into some schedule releases guess what we know who’s now playing the first Monday night Sunday night and fox game but we’ll start with the Monday Night Football game that will be the New York Jets and the San Francisco 49ers that’s right Mr Irrelevant himself Brock py takes on uh one of the people that used to try to call the goat and a class made 2005 and my squad New York Jets Aaron Rogers back from that ailles situation Anon I know you study rosters so I bring this to you first what do you think in that matchup what do you do you like it do you not like it did they get it right and making this the game you saw what happened last time they started the season with Aaron Rogers on Monday Night Football I was at that game didn’t go so well do you like the scheduling of the 49ers and the Jets I somehow have become a fan of Aaron Rogers since he left Green Bay it’s it’s creepy right well you know it’s creepy I’m I’m a I don’t I know that woke is a is a four-letter word these days well it’s always been a four-letter word but I believe in in awoken and um I believe that he is an awoken guy that that chases spirituality and chases growing himself on the inside so I’m all for that so I’m starting to like him I think that he’s outspoken in a time where people don’t get to speak um so I would kind of bum for him when that happened you know I was expect I was excited to see what he was going to do and is this guy who came up in a system very much like we’ve been talking about had the time behind Favre to really get good and and was just absolutely at home in Green Bay we have no idea what this guy’s going to be like in a different Jersey all of football wants to see though love him or hate him and then obviously the 49ers in a guy like pie I think pie probably is one of the best comps at at his young age to an Aaron Rodgers mobile but not crazy mobile um composed accurate um I think I love it actually I really love that and I’m not a Jets guy I’m a new Aaron Rogers guy but I do want to see the 49ers and I would love to see Rogers upset him we I will get that email for Aaron Rogers fan club so you can send him a letter and tell them yourself J green I come to you I know sticks a fan no pun I come to you when I ask Aaron Rogers you give him Mike Williams from the Los Angeles Chargers you give him Garrett Wilson who they drafted three years ago had a a year to the tomb where he was offensive rookie of the year two years ago Bree Hall finally finish finished the season coming off that torn ACL and Rook one so we’re expecting a lot out of him is it enough for Aaron Rogers to have a chance to win that division because if my estimation that division is kind of up for grabs yeah I honestly I’m I’m going just put it out there I’m not the biggest Aaron roggers fan so this is just completely objective I don’t think anybody under 30 is yeah know so Aaron Rogers I feel I say that to say I had to preface that with Aaron Rogers is a talent I feel that regard I want say regardless of who you put around him but you can skimp out on a couple of positions when you got a talent like Aaron Rogers that’s going to get you to I feel he’s going to definitely get them to the playoffs so in that I feel with how Buffalo looking and then Miami did get better so I would probably give them the division okay but I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest bit if Aaron roders wins the Division because they got Bree hog which is in my opinion he gonna be like I don’t well no NFL they don’t have most improved they got come player don’t sleep on brillan Allen over there that they just drafted either you know I like that first name Bree though he got like like an extra gear in him that just like if he doesn’t te his ACL in year one like he would have he would he would have finished a top three running back in the NFL not rookie tag on that and then yeah you put him with a receiver like Garrett Wilson definitely and also I think people are forgetting alen Lazard is over there Alan Lazard was a nonf factor because he was over there playing with Zack Wilson so Zack Wilson didn’t have the chemistry with him but now Alan Lazard will be over there for the reason that he signed with the Jets in Aaron Rogers and if you remember Alan Lazard was a very above average receiver on the Packers playing with who though at quack that’s what I said with Aaron rers only quarterback has ever like that receiver I was just about to say I can’t say anything because I love my Jets so um I’m I’m neutral but I agree with you over there but yeah know I would just say I would say I’m not I would this how I put it I the Dolphins and the Jets are going to be playing for the division up until the last week of the Season okay and I feel it I feel it’s just up in the air between those two and you guys are all sleeping on Chesterfield Township’s own Tyler Conklin fire up chips he’s been there three years but he’s never had somebody thr to like Aaron Rogers is you guys don’t realize how solid that Conlin is how old is Travis Concklin now uh good question he is 28 years old right in the prime of his career waiting on TI in your fantasy football leagues that’s your guy I like it uh look it’s going to be an interesting game it’ be great also would’ be great to see what Brock pry has in the bank account by the time that game comes around Sunday more than Jared go uh will I don’t know part of the negotiation is look we know what you did back toback NFC Championship but it helps when you got number one offensive weapon on your team and Christian mcaffry it helps when you got Debo Samuel who’s the best offensive player on your team and it helps when you have Brandon iuk and uh and uh George KD so that’s when you get in negotiations those are things that come up but getting into the Sunday night game it will be oo yeah dude this is hold on how is this the Sunday night game if at 425 we two I don’t know why M put week two in there it says week two in there this is week two that’s what it says this is week two uh okay well we can talk about it then it’s all good man we appreciate you and we love you and you’re working hard Cincinnati Bengals Joe bur will be back and Patrick Mahomes the game is at Arrowhead it’s also known as burad until they lost the two years ago or yeah was two years ago so what do you think in terms of Joe burrow we know what he did year two got to the Super Bowl after coming off that ACL injury in year one here he is they keep mentioning his name but it just keep seeming to be injuries that have pled his career do you think he comes back better do you think he comes back stronger and do you think he comes back at the level he was at when he got yeah know injuries is definitely plaguing Joe bro so far for what is it two of the four years he’s played but in those two years where he wasn’t injured I I’m a big Joe burough fan and I’m I have like no dog in a fight like I’m not a bingles fan or anything like that I’m just a Joe burrow fan CU he plays I guess quarterback and football the way it should be like when he gets out there he wins and it’s like it’s like almost regardless of who I won’t say regardless of who out there but from what he’s shown like the games where Jamar Chase to be out he still finds a way to win like Joe burrow in my opinion is a winner and is a quarterback that as long as they healthy he’s also one of those quarterbacks that I feel honestly even though he’s not as tenur as Aaron roggers you could probably go a little light on a couple positions except for line cuz I feel any quarterback that’s been injured you have to bolster your line to like keep them protected so they don’t have to like especially with calf injury so he not trying to have to run for his life but and they have sign and do like who was it Orlando um yeah Orlando Brown Orlando Brown yeah so they they showing that they trying to they showing that they trying to uh strengthen that line and Joe burrow he’s a talent I don’t believe in the burad and all that he’s one in one so no it was a thing and then they got clapped they should have shut up that was all that was the May that was a May of Cincinnati true story bumping off at the gums they went up there they got they got clapped and is what is sometime keep mouth shut but as long as he can stay healthy and as long as he got Jamar Chase I believe they can they’re fighting for a playoff spot I listen to everything Jay green said but you know what stood lowed to me answering he said he wins he gets on the field and he wins and I bring that right back to Aaron Ro I mean not Aaron Rogers but Jared G you look at you look at what Joe bur has done and I know people in the chat like oh my God here you go Jo BR made it to a Super Bowl J go made it to a Super Bowl went in there with the exception of I’m a minus two years from jerro go I give him a pass year one dealing with Jeff fiser and I give him a past year one dealing with the Detroit Lions we didn’t have anything going all he does is do what win but but brillan wins aren’t quarterback stats uh but but that’s what I hear WS are what I’m paying thank you WIS is what I’m paying thank you I’m it unless this is the NBA where the regular season apparently matters I’m paying people that get to the Finish Line in the playoffs the the people who get on our our chat and people like easy that want to hide behind wins aren’t quarterback stats it’s the only stat I don’t care if I have a quarterback that throws for negative 50 yards if I win 16 games a year I don’t care about stats except for the W for my Quarterback Tom Brady intangibles could the guy run fast yeah hey didn’t need to didn’t need to did he have a rocket arm he had a quick assessment what was going on the field okay look at that did he put up tons of stats in Super Bowl games uh yes some yes some no he he won a couple with like 180 yards passing true and lost one with 500 yards passing so but stats aren’t wins aren’t qu no that’s the only stat quarterback should be evaluated 2008 Liam what matters is uh W’s cuz they didn’t get any and let’s stop attaching system quarterback to a guy that went from one system and won to another system and won can anybody name another system quarterback that did that maybe Trent delord don’t mind 10 BR Joe Montana Joe Montana those are the guys that have went from one franchise successfully to another and had some success company right there Then can I say something about that didn’t know the two Super Bowls though and even pton Manning you look at it different Super Bowls but surrounding with Talent is pton Manning and in the superow we’re talking about right now right exactly the best of the best man no there no scrubs on this conversation we never had in our lifetimes as lion fans period no scrubs at all and then we get into week one the fox broadcast the very first time that Tom Brady who we just talked about will be calling the game he makes the debut against the Cowboys and the Browns and last night it was funny he actually cracked the joke on Dak Prescott saying maybe he will finally get the job done this is an interesting one stick I want to bring this one to you Dallas Cowboys Dak Prescott quarterback that people he cannot get it done we talked about a second ago he has what one playoff or two playoff wins uh in his career and he’s been into the playoffs almost every season and then got Deshawn Watson over there with the Cleveland Browns who he when he was in there last year didn’t seem like he was himself didn’t seem like he was the same guy from Houston and also he had a lot of couple controversial things in terms of games maybe he could have played in and he didn’t play in this is an interesting game let’s just say Jared G is the anti Deshawn Watson right like they paid that man a ton of money and he has provided nothing to that franch not to mention what three first rounders you know not three first rounders I mean DTR he he didn’t look great in that offense last year but I that’s to me that’s their future moving forward but Joe flacko came in too and showed you it’s not about the quarterback in that they when they get chub back healthy and they have that defense they’re going to be a problem no matter where they go and you know Dallas is what Dallas is they’re paper Champs they’ve always been paper Champs they they’re holding on to something from 40 years ago that Joel and never even heard of that the Cowboys were winning Super Bowl em Smith yeah he he heard of em and Smith but he ain’t never seen the Cowboys good in his entire life his entire life but he’s told their America’s team so yeah I mean I hate rooting for anything Ohio but I I hate the Cowboys even more Tom Brady cracked the joke on then and say he can’t believe it’s America’s team when we wear the red white and blue talking about his Patriots patri out of those three games now you got three interesting games you got some Heavy Hitters and then you got some great story lines you have Browns Cowboys you got 49ers Jets and then you have dolphins and Bengals that is the Sunday night game is it Tuesday night football Bengals Chiefs and then Bills Dolphins see Thursday night with the Bills Dolphins and then Sunday night’s Bengals Chiefs that’s the one that I didn’t talk about go ahead and talk about the bills Thursday night football against the Dolphins another one two where’s that at in the it looks like it’s in Miami in Miami uh it’s in it’s in Miami in Miami and in Cincinnati the other game here’s the interesting thing about that game with the Dolphins and the bills those are two quarterbacks that are up in a do you believe in them don’t you believe in them is it the system is it the quarterback Tu Tong ofo is one of the quarterbacks in that game hasn’t made the Pro Bowl yet has Pro Bowl numbers to a certain extent has wins when he’s playing there’s another guy that wins when he’s playing but in nice weather this is true you put you put two anywhere below 50 degrees he ain’t winning all right don’t get the anti- golf people they’ll start talking about cold wether games with golf you better watch out over there Super Bowl where this is true he’s been chilling in Miami what are your thoughts on two Mike McDaniels in terms of the extension should have get done is he the next one up contract wise I I don’t know how you let that guy go yeah it’s one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the NFL he can get it down the field he can move and make plays but he’s really well-liked is in Miami and in the locker room um he’s just a charismatic great Young quarterback that’s a guy that you just do not allow to leave your city and your team at all out of all these games though I want to rewind just a little bit back to what you were talking about with Tom Brady I like all these games I’d love to see burrow and Kevin B is going to be great I’d love to see the buffalo’s beginning of the crumble against against Miami but diplomatic immunity I’m going to change it to Goat immunity okay and if you like Tony Romo and some of these other personalities you just wait with Tom Brady fresh off of the Tom Brady rolls is going to drop in these games he’s got goat Championship immunity I mean Bill Russell could go out there and say anything he wanted we got the same in Tom Brady he definitely Invincible Seven Rings he he is the goat whether you like it or not he’s the goat ring this is the era we live in now the area that I kind of grew up in it didn’t matter about who had the most rings it was who was the best player it’s no longer the area we live in and seven rings seven rings do speak for themselves all right I know another thing that both of you guys like and it is is the NBA it was a game last night and 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Woodward sports.com back to Armani and Edwards with man welcome back to everybody with the mad you know the story My Man ason Wills fing in and my man Joe Green in the mass chair also before I forget happy birthday to my cousin jarte happy birthday jarte is now turning 39 dang what happened to The Years bro I’m 41 he’s 39 but happy birthday jarte um we were talking about the NBA nothing really to talk about with the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Boston Celtics the Celtics win the game they go up three games to one Donovan Mitchell was just not enough for the Celtics Jason Tatum showed up showed out Celtics they’re doing what they’re supposed to do no real story lines here the bigger storyline is the second game of the night which was the OKC Thunder nipping the Dallas Mavericks to the tune of 100-96 neither Luca donic nor Kyrie Irving showed up in that game we thought we got it right we thought the usage rate was changing for Luca donic we thought that Jason kid had figured out how to use him in his against OKC didn’t seem to be the truth last night yeah I I I’m going to switch and pivot I think that OKC is going to get by them at this point um as as experienced as Kyrie is and as skilled as Luca is this is the NBA entertainment and there is no more entertaining team in the NBA right now a point the NBA is at the end of the day sports regardless of how we look at it Sports is entertainment yeah well and and remember in the last 15 years all of these leagues have reclassified as entertainment companies ah you know who they learn from the WWE but I digress no no they’re exactly in the same place as them but OKC um being able to win this game was absolutely massive I think the NBA again I’m a conspiracy theorist when it comes to my beloved NBA but the NBA it seemed like they left that game up for whoever was going to win it okay and because so it was called down the middle then that’s right and if OKC doesn’t win that they’re not ready they want it on the road they’re in a position now where they’ve they’ve got homecourt Advantage back and I see them winning it in seven um I got to be honest with you there’s not a whole lot for the NF NBA to like about the Dallas Mavericks nobody really likes Kyrie Irving except for you and I nobody really likes Luka donic realistic and that’s the truth too cuz as much as you can fall in love with you watch him just throw just not even play temper tantrums getting people kicked out of games for saying nothing um he’s becoming slightly unlikable nobody really wants to push Kyrie Irving into the Conference Finals OKC man this is the team of the future this is the team that every single per every single team in the NBA is going to be dealing with the rest of this decade period one thing I do want to say look luuka did have a triple double last night to tun 18 10 and 12 so let me not disrespect that a triple double in the NBA it’s a triple double in the NBA but I think you know where I was going uh Jay I come to you you look at Dallas and it just seems like with Luca whether it’s Luca and jayen Brunson whether it’s Luca and Kyrie just so inconsistent as a team and so inconsistent as a um excuse me as an Allstar when you look at a young team going against a veteran team and we’re going to call the Mavericks the veteran team they got a guy that won a championship and the guy that’s been there a couple times are you really scared as a young team if the team that you’re going against is supposed to be the experienced team or the veteran team is inconsistent um not really more so because one I said a couple years ago when the thing with uh Jaylen Brunson and Luca was going on I said Luca’s like co-host like co-star can never be another guard cuz that is he’s too dominant of a guard for him to find Space to like work in another guard like if you notice the nights where kyria go off Luca probably had a calm night Luca go off off Kyrie has a cal night it’s like it’s not even to take nothing away from either or it’s just the way they play the game it’s just hard for them to insert somebody else so in that to get back to your original Point yeah the uh the Thunder are just looking at that like I’m not really too worried with this team and Mike connley said that about his own team and the Timberwolves like young teams it’s like an ignorance that you have that gives you like a confidence and a Swagger about yourself when you just like when you’re not knowing how big the moment is they don’t even know any better yeah so they don’t know like the magnitude of the situation they in they just going out there and hooping like Jaylen Williams put it in a perfect respective the other day they asked him like why are you always smiling why do you always look happy he said I’m 23 and I get paid millions of dollars to go dribble of basketball so I feel that’s how they entering this whole series like they like we young we getting paid Millions to go hoop let’s go hoop and when you have when you hooping with like no constraints on you that’s when it seem like it’s easier to hit shots it’s easier to get in your Rhythm and hit moves so I feel that’s what we seeing right now with them series tied at two who are you taking at this moment to win this series obviously they still got some games to go but who would you take to win it in this moment I would honestly I still feel Luca and Kyrie are going to have enough to pull the rabbit out the the hat for two games out of the next three okay so I feel and the way PJ Washington been playing we ow PJ Washington a huge apology cuz after he dropped 29 it was uttered that he would not ever get close to a game like that he had 27 the next game and then 21 this game so PJ Washington he’s like I feel he’s like one of the best role players left in this playoffs not one he is the best role player left in the playoffs cuz PJ Washington I I was saying when he got traded to the Mavericks I was like that’s a player that every team competing for a championship wants because he’s going to check a nice perimeter guard or play good perimeter defense he can hit the three for you and he can even get a little dirty for you rebound stuff like that that you may need and he not going to need you to he doesn’t need force fed baskets he doesn’t need spoonfed baskets so I still feel the Mavericks Port is out in seven uh speaking of tied at 2-2 the game tonight features this is the best playoff game this is the best playoff series of the playoffs right now we know who it is it’s Anthony edman Edwards and the Minnesota Timberwolves going against the Joker Denver Nuggets but the problem is now it’s no longer 20 and they’re no longer in Minnesota game five is in tonight it’s going to be interesting ason Wills what do the timber wvs need to do to win this game uh because right now it looks like they’re about to get backwards swept great question and and you know we left here we did a show together on Thursday they were down 2 I I was all in for the sweep yeah and I called I called Denver and seven still shout out to Ryan armman Ryan armman said that after the two games in Minnesota that it would be tied two to2 got to give him credit for that yeah well they had to tie two to two um in order to have a chance in this series you know when you we Face a defense as sticky as Minnesota’s there’s an adjustment period um and then when you face a kid who’s as good as Anthony Edwards I mean kid playing he’s it’s like he’s playing downhill while everybody else is climbing it am I the only person not to cut you off am I the only person waiting for the shooter drop in this series I’m not the only person waiting for what was cuz I at this point I know it’s true now waiting for Anthony Edwards to get clamped or them to figure it out for a night win or lose it doesn’t happen no well Jordan never got clamped O say it again there he is J D got to hang out close you know but uh for the most part this is a kid that’s un clampable yeah his mid-range game is is is immaculate his driving to the hoop ability and finishing is top tier starting to really respect the three ball too yeah and he can obviously play on the outside as well but what I’ve seen out this kid is his in tenacity and intensity and passion for playing defense I mean they were down seven points with like 20 seconds left and he comes down and makes a block on the other end after he just got in the layup they don’t have like Rudy goar puts a lot of points up but he does he’s not a scorer I don’t hate anybody I hate him as a basketball player is that fun to say I hate him as a basketball I don’t hate him as a he’s a great person hate him as a basketball player I will always remember him for this the the whole te got Co Donovan Mitchell Qui PIV Donovan Mitchell if you’ve ever noticed when they play against each other Donovan still hates him yeah like like Donovan Mitchell doesn’t like him for real for real go ahead Donovan wanted out on top of it being a decent move from Minnesota but Minnesota doesn’t truly have that number two goar scores a lot but he is not a scorer if rebounds a lot yeah if you got a double team on on Anthony you know who are you going to give it to you can go into the post a little bit as good as they defensively I don’t think that they get out of this series I think that Denver not only adjusted but just really showed them who they are I think Minnesota is probably a little worried right now we got to go back there they just handed it to us two times on our own Court um I I think that next year you’re going to see Minnesota and you’re going to see OKC playing in the Western Conference Finals um Denver’s probably ready to fall apart after they win their second Championship this year that’s happening that’s happening guys yeah 100% any day you keep getting to the finals you keep winning those games are long those seasons are long the months the grueling hours you put in that’s why you see a lot of people fall off uh Carl Anthony tals is the guy that modern like he he patterned himself after his U uh his UK Alum and Anthony Davis we know that but I think he forgot the part that Anthony Davis does play defense that Anthony Davis does play when he wants to but he can turn it on like Carl Anthony towns has to be the key for the Wolves am I right that’s that’s exactly who I was going to say when you brought up Gober I was going to say it’s more so on anony towns because Carl Anthony towns started the game last uh what was that Sunday one for 10 and I think he finished like 13 points but it was like a it wasn’t even a good 13 it was like a 13 that really added nothing to the game point 13 yeah no like you said his defense if he can Carl times has to start playing defense without filing he gets like so many Stupid Files that’s like the only way I can say it is just he gets Stupid Files at points in the game that puts a player of his magnitude in file trouble unnecessarily like it was one play Yi just bringing it up and at half court he just decides to like chess check him and gets like a quick foul it’s like doing stuff like that shows me mentally that Carl or Carl Anthony tooms is like I guess upset out there or like something is bothering not ready for this stage I yeah no he’s not ready for the stage and he just he just got to pick it up scoring wise more so because Anthony like you brought up if they double team ant Carl Anthony to should be right there ready to get a bucket yes but he’s been nowhere to be found if he’s not in foul trouble he’s missing a shot one fun things about that game was did you see when uh Joker set up Rudy lear’s Dum dumb self I almost cursed when he played him and then oh my God like when you see stuff like when you see things like that I was so confused by the Utah Jazz like I didn’t know what the timber wolves were thinking and it’s and I still don’t think it’s worked out for him they are where they are right now but it ain’t because of Rudy gber what you about to say as I when you look at car uh cat and you look at at goar these are both guys that are the number three option on a championship ship team and if you have two of those guys a third and fourth option that’s fantastic but to your point Jay green as as we call you I love that green until there’s a second guy that you can absolutely with full faith give the rock in the last five minutes when Anthony’s in you know in foul trouble or getting shut down in a double team they just don’t have that and I love your point about his his mental state he just seems overwhelmed by the moment here so if you can and he he knows he’s the number two option on that team I mean you you put those two big men together you might have the greatest big man of all time but they’re separate one’s a Defender one’s an offensive guy and when you start getting in foul trouble and and your mind isn’t right you start you overpress you know you’re your offensive game falls apart you lose your confidence it’s a much easier to be a great defender when things are going bad because that’s all you got to do you don’t have to hit shots until they get that true two option Minnesota’s number two or three in the west yeah and I don’t want to be one of those shows that we talk so much about a team that’s losing right now the Denver Nuggets did win two games let’s talk a little bit about them the reason why I believe the catalyst is just like Carl Anthony could be the Catalyst for the Wolves well Aaron Gordon right now is how they are getting it done here’s how they won two and 0 talk about the depth at least in the starters of that Squad Jay green I would say with the with Denver’s ability to have everybody contribute and I would say more so you yeah all credit to Aaron Gordon but I feel that comes from joic the ability of Y 35 points he had last game make the 13th 35 points started 10 for 10 I think he had 357 and7 yeah this is third it’s the first third time it’s the 13th time he’s done that in his playoff career joic joic ability to get his that’s the point I was going to make also what the Timberwolves need to improve on Anthony Edwards I would like to see him in more pick and roll situations cuz granted he can get his 44 but I would like to see him be able to get at 44 but also like maybe if you got to sacrifice the 14 points on top to get you 44 and have 30 and get you PBE a couple more assists to include your teammates a little bit more but the ability for Denver and jish to have the gravity he has and like Timberwolves bringing all these double teams and his ability to facilitate and hit the open man every time it keeps his team in Rhythm while he’s able to also get his so he stand in his rhythm the role player stand in their Rhythm so when he does get double team they haven’t been they they last shot wasn’t second quarter and now we in the fourth quarter with three minutes left and they trying to you like oh my God how didn’t you hit this open shot it’s like no they’ve been taking shots throughout the whole game so they’re in a rhythm I feel that’s why everybody is able to contribute so far down on that roster now brilin last week when the MVP was handed down and you and I differed you you thought it should have been SGA I thought it should have been joic at the time they were down 20 yeah and what we watched over the weekend with these two wins what I saw was how important joic is to that team and why he won MVP have you changed your thoughts at all since the last two games no no I still think it’s SGA I still think it’s SGA yre if you want to go that right he’s the best player in the NBA and Anthony Edwards is playing the best but until someone dethrones joic he’s the best player in the NBA right now he won another MVP deservingly so whether I disagree or not it was deserving that he was there it was deserving that it was at close where it should have been Clos but I still think SGA should have won this year that’s all all right yeah nothing wrong with that nothing wrong with that I love the conversation Wolverines don’t always agree my friend this is true and Wolverines aren’t always right we we are not always right we know that we are we know that trying to be humble I’m agree with you we were just say we don’t always have to agree but I’m agree you took the bait like I’m with you on this that was BS I’m take he was trying to be a good guy you just show you just show that little brother energy it’s it’s okay I I I was Jonathan Smith a lot of success this year we know how John Smith’s work out in East laning I wish shoelaces a whole lot of luck in his new career wherever that is as well and now that’s a shot of somebody got a DUI see that’s that’s the Michigan State class that that’s that’s the Michigan State class that you don’t have should I have selected the other assistant coach that’s no longer with you that just got hired Co on the other line with Mel Tucker so to say that I to chck going at the at the end of at the end of the day it is what it is it’s why you call a rivalry a rivalry indeed let’s switch and get to this funny story off thought Bears coach roast Justin Phils I think you’ll like this too stick and uh here’s the here’s the here’s the quote I read we react to a Chicago Bears coach on Justin Fields when you watch him watch his eyes he tried to see the whole thing and doesn’t see anything I can make a joke out of that but I won’t his eyes are all over the place and it’s just really hard to watch it’s just bad football is that e flu or this is e flu or they just said coach they didn’t specify okay let’s just say the coach on the squad here you go QB room 20 oh and this is another comment that came out the QB room in 2021 was toxic as hell per tyun fos attempted to Peach Fields but the rookie was disengaged and his head was down at the point fos was done trying to play mentor and rookie they hated each other obviously this is another reason why he’s gone but if this is e flu because it says coach so let’s just assume it’s e flus for the sake of the conversation why need to poke why need to poke a guy that’s no longer there like if if this is even if it’s true as a head coach like AR Once A guy leaves your team aren’t you done with him not if you here in Chicago when you consider the absolute futility that they’ve had at the quarterback position over they’re trying to burn somebody else well I think they’re trying to cover their butts for moving him for a six round draft pick um there’s a lot of there’s a lot of people in Chicago right now that I’m sure aren’t sold on Caleb Williams the way that I’m not and they look okay well we could have traed this pick and double down gotten more capital and kept this kid Justin Fields here and I was one of those people my opinion just got a little bit reading these two tweets because if that’s true you got a guy that doesn’t want to be taught that’s not getting along with others that obviously is showing a major deficiency while he’s on the field now I’m going to say this Mike tumlin don’t play that no not at all no he doesn’t not at all M Tomlin also earned that respect Mike Tomlin also has that respect because he’s done it even flu can’t come in like you can’t be Matt Patricia and demand bill bellich and that may be what’s going on with Matt E flu but to me what’s more important about this is this is a division rival doing the exact opposite once again of the culture that’s being built in Detroit what’s Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell doing they’re taking care of their guys what are these guys doing trash talking their guys as they leave brillan you know what that sends to free agents you know the message that that sends to other people that want to go to that team like uh it’s the same thing as if a player left and started trashing coaches like all right that may not be a coachable player these are not good player coaches that are doing this you got to be above it if you’re in that management level you can’t go low like that you can’t I agre with SI on that I wasn’t a fan of eil flu and look I understand the rosters gotten better and I know if they did in the back half of the Year defensively still not a fan of eflu and I still don’t believe in him toy otherwise yeah I mean we’re going to see we’re going to see I think that Fields might be in a position where with tomlins to he could turn into the quarterback a lot of people thought they had but to stick’s point it’s a great one I mean we’ve lost some guys here we’ve traded some guys here we’ve never heard one bad comment or quote or tweet from our regime for a past player and that is that’s huge that’s culture and that that’s inviting if you’re afraid and Holmes has shipped guys out of here he shipped TJ hackinson out of here and wasn’t like the reason I did that is cuz the guy can’t play ball he shipped Stafford out of here and didn’t go back on trashing him so holes it’s just it’s just another good culture feel that they’re operating that they’re operating that way we’re operating this way these are the guys I want to play for doub the only person that had something to say was Jamal Williams and we saw how the season worked out for him in New Orleans right but the Jamal Williams situation he got greedy like that was a thing they they offered him he said he wanted more he went and test the market and at the end of the day that was Sanders record exactly he had that mentality and Brad Holmes stood on business as the kids say he’s like you know what I can go get David Montgomery for 6 million I’m not paying you eight sorry take your show all the way to the Saints and deliver zero touchdowns and I love swaggy I love that personality and it definitely worked out for both teams Lions won that deal uh One More Story and we’re going to call it a day and it is an interesting one 54 seconds on bar stew from Kurt Cousins on what happened and how he feels about the situation in at Atlanta talk about draft night Kurt Cousins the Atlanta Falcons picking Michael pinnick yeah I think you you’re reminded again that you there are things you control and there’s a lot of things you don’t control and so let’s deal in reality you know and recognize that fact and then be a steward not an owner so I just believe that I got to Steward what comes my way and control what I can control which what a steward does but a steward doesn’t worry about that which they can’t control yeah an owner does my point is is this isn’t like a foreign concept there’s an awareness that this is the NFL you know anything can happen you know do kind of what I’ve always done as a player and let the chips for than me so it’s fair to say KT cousins the Falcons there’s no there’s no beef involved no I don’t think there can be I don’t think it’s helpful like we’re trying to win a Super Bowl and it’s hard enough like you know what I mean like it’s hard enough so let’s let’s all be on the same page and let’s try to go into Super Bowl it’s funny too cuz you just took a shot at Michigan I let it slide and here’s a chance for me to take a shot and I won’t Kurt Cousins is probably the Michigan State person I like the most that I don’t know never had a chance to meet Kurt Cousins he’s a guy that I could get behind Paul like he’s just understands the system Kurt Cousins could have said a lot of things in these this interview as BARC and you know what happens in these interviews guys get relaxed guys get comfortable guys think oh well this isn’t a real media situation no yeah it is everything you says comes out but he talked about being a steward and not an owner I love that that means he’s going to come out and fight for his position and I said I don’t think he ever sees another down with the Atlanta Falcons or ever sees it down with the Atlanta Falcons much like Matt Flynn Russell Wilson got a little bit of Goosebumps watching them talk about that also the music did help what do you think about Kirk hin his situation will he start as the starter game one there’s very few Spartans that have represented our school as well as he has as a pro and and my hats off to him should be proud I did love that interview I love the the Insight I just wish that Insight would have been there in draft night so he could have held back on his tweet because that tweet talking about him finding out during the draft that they were taking a quarterback ignited the NFL as well as the Atlanta fan base and their conspiracy over what might happen and whether he’s happy or not glad glad he shut the door on that and he he let it be known but he should have held that back that night I was just going to say I mean it’s easy to have the right attitude when 100 million guaranteed just hit that bank account and that’s what my thoughts always were that’s my worried about this kid coming in from college to take coming off in thees yeah all right I’ll take my 100 Mil may not play but then I go to another team somebody will need a quarterback at some point if it doesn’t work out with them but with that I like that we have the ability now as current players former players too but current players to get the story out there because if you sit on the store and you don’t say anything and and no one knows what happened now people think this that and the third I wasn’t told no one told me this is why I left Minnesota but it is what it is he has the right to get a story out there so I don’t mind that part about it he does he does but as the leader and the highest paid guy in a brand new town it wasn’t a great look it opened the door for for um but was it the truth well it certainly was it certainly was but but hey halfs off to the guy for getting up on on a podcast and and nationally telling people there is no issue it was well put and and it it’s Falls right in with the high class that that man is go GRE well you know has high class May is all the way baby is what Sports and that’s why we bring you the best possible quality content that we can 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Truth spoken here! $42.5M is a home town discount of epic proportions!! Goff is HIM!!!!
Every team worth a damn, designs their Offense around their QB. It’s just smart coaching. And news flash, we now have smart coaching. In Brad we trust! If you don’t think he’s worth it, go back to your tribe in Chitcahgo, Skol land, or the dairy lands of the cheese heads, because you ain’t a Lions Fan.
Bad show today
Detroit Jesus is going to win us 2 of the next 4 Super Bowls
To this day, people can't get the Brady taking less story correct. Brady at the same point as Goff right now signed the richest QB deal at that time. Brady started taking less at year 14 in his career. People act as if Brady always took less. When Brady started taking less, the entire team followed by taking less. It was never just him. Look it up. It's not hard to find.
Maz you have to state how much it will cost per year, not the total of the 3 contracts! No, Tom Brady didn't take less every year! Brady at the same age, was paid more then any QB in NFL history!!! So don't say every year!!! In 2010 Brady was the highest paid QB in the NFL at 18 million per year!!! Signed for 72 million for 4 years, the highest QB contract for that time!!! Maz this is your job, do some research, it took me 3 minutes to find that info!!!
Braylon is right on about Goff's contract!!!
Talk about Stafford all you want… what happened when he got traded? End of story
Omg you guys are laying it in thick today lol
( Detroit Lions Family) Maz you holla Stafford had Calvin Johnson and Ndamoking Suh to argue Stafford had what Goff has!( A lie) Stafford got almost every bone in his body broken because of no offensive line! Then Stafford only had 1 1000 yard gaining running back out of 12 yrs! So he threw interceptions against defenses that knew he had to throw because his Team couldn't run! So quit it!
I support Goff in an offense that was totally designed for him! Stafford never had that kind of support! So quit it! Goff has a TEAM Stafford never had one so get over your hate for Stafford and admit the organization let Stafford down!
You wait and see what happens with Goff when the Lions start releasing players because if his contract! You will be talking about him like you used to talk about Stafford!
Goff definitely deserved every penny he got and my wife and I are glad for him what it boils down to is just not the qb it’s a total organization win do you think we would be having this conversation if Holmes and Campbell and Sheila wasn’t in charge I think not
Should have waited in what you have in Hooker !