MUST BUY AND SELL DYNASTY TRADE TARGETS (Post NFL Draft) and Rookie Portfolio Review!

Join Seth Diewold, and Matt Babich at the Dynasty Roundtable, with special guest Dan Williamson, presented by PlayerProfiler. We will take a look at dynasty buys and sells as well as a deep dive unique situations post NFL draft. In this episode, we will discuss the Broncos fantasy outlook as well as some of our favorite rookie landing spots. Come join us and pull up a chair to the Dynasty Roundtable in this hard hitting, action packed episode!

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Timestamps:
00:42 – Welcome to Dynasty Roundtable
2:26 – Welcome back Dan Williamson
8:08 – What the hell do we do with Rashee Rice?
19:48 – Talking Broncos
34:49 – Informative Segment, Underdog
36:11 – More Broncos talk
46:23 – Making the case to buy or sell Daniel Jones
51:30 – Can Deshaun Watson still be elite?
1:01:58 – Buying or selling Deondre Smith
1:07:15 – Is CJ Stroud worth the price?
1:13:30 – Plugs

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[Music] n [Music] oh buddy we are live on the dynasty round table on the player profiler YouTube channel tonight Matt babage and we had this guest back it’s it’s hard to believe man how time flies but we had him on back in February and I was like really Fe feary because I was looking through our old show sheets getting ready for this and I was like we should have had Dan on here way sooner than than that like I felt I immediately felt bad about it I was like oh God we gotta get Dan on here more often but Dan Williamson is on the show tonight he’s legitimately one of the best fantasy Minds in the in the community um so what but what are we G to talk with with uh Dan tonight about Matt if I can get that sentence out of my mouth so back back in February Dan joined us to talk about what we’re doing with polarizing Dynasty assets and so we quite literally revived the exact same show sheet because if the highlights are the players we talked about last time and I’m pretty sure that they are we got through maybe half of the names as per usual here on the round table so we’re going to revive this show sheet there’s a lot of names that have uh had some pretty drastic changes in value since February so we’re going to talk about some of them uh we have some new additions potentially to talk through so we have a whole new slew of names uh we’ll we’ll catch up on rookie drafts how we’re doing there and then we’re g we’re just going to be dishing out values and Fades uh throughout the dynasty Universe all right let’s get the show started the show starts right [Music] now welcome Dan Williamson how we doing tonight brother doing great guys and if it’s any consolation I would have guessed it was not that long ago either that I was on so it’s it’s wild you know like we we we get we get so caught up in like I guess it would have been around Super Bowl time and then we get caught I got caught up in you know rookie prep you know content the content machine never stops so I thought oh we had Dan on like last month didn’t we it’s time for Dan to come back on the show again and then here you are you know three or four months later but uh anyway we’ll have to make a better habit of getting you back on when you can come on because you’re Insight like just you know there are certain people in the space that you talk to them and you become a better player for or Dynasty gamer because you share ideas with this person and Dan’s one of those people so get your notebooks out get those pads ready because uh we’re going to give you some Dynasty insights tonight but before we do that Dan I’m assuming you’re in a bunch of these rookie drafts I I want to how these rookie drafts are going and which players you’re getting a lot of and which ones like maybe you’re passing on so how are your rookie drafts going yeah so most of my rookie drafts are actually over um almost all of them kicked off like at the latest uh the weekend after the NFL draft um and it it was real fun for me because I was over in uh London at the time so you know I’m 6 hours ahead of everybody else and of course you know like in the evening when everybody else is making rookie picks and trades and everything that’s like the middle of the night over there so it was kind of a a pain in the butt to do um I definitely would not not schedule a trip like that again U it was it it it was a little bit painful but uh it went pretty well and uh you know I was really excited about the players I got I went with kind of a broad spectrum of Guys across my leagues um you know so I have I have a lot of you know like two copies of this guy one copy of that guy three copies of this this guy uh there aren’t so many guys that I have you know like a lot of copies of but um you know one of one of them uh and I play a lot of tight end premium uh Ben sonat um is a is a guy you know of course he’s all over Twitter and x and whatnot U but he’s he’s a guy that I had targeted uh even before he landed with Washington and I just really loved the landing spot so it it was all wheels up for him um another one I got a fair amount of uh Xavier worthy um he’s a player I’m very very high on um I you know you you can be fast and draft in the first round it’s not always a mistake right yeah so yeah you know I I I felt like he was even before we knew how fast he was he was still supposed to be drafted probably in the at the tail end of the first round which is exactly where he got drafted so for me you know that that says that he wasn’t arbitrarily pushed up by speed or anything else U you know maybe NFL teams are winning that lesson but um and I was able to beir him up on a couple teams where I had momes too which was extra extra nice awesome yeah with worthy the worthy thing really confused me because if you watched them play at Texas you know that this is a player who he he he’s not a John Ross just because he was he’s fast and undersized it doesn’t mean that he’s not a really good football player because I especially watching those Alabama games it was startling to me how much attention they paid to Xavier worthy because they do not want him to get the ball out in space so if Nick Sabin is prepping to stop Xavier worthy when you know you got beon on the field you got ad I Mitchell there as well that’s a player that I want in Dynasty especially when you’re getting them at least I was getting them at the back back end of the first round and a lot of these teams that you know you made it to the playoffs maybe you were in the championship game and you get to add Xavier worthy it feels like a gift so I I’m right there with you with Xavier worthy we were fighting against these people we like the fast undersized receivers can’t be good it’s like no that’s that’s kind of a that’s you know that’s that that’s a bit lazy I think so I think Xavier worthy especially with the Chiefs I think that’s a dynamite pick so um yeah Matt do you have anything to add there yeah I was just I’m thinking about how unfortunate the whole Rashi rice suspension is because I was kind of expecting there to be a bu window early in Xavier Worthy’s rookie season because entering an offense with rashy rice who uh was a breakout talent for the Chiefs Kel’s still there in that offense they signed mares Brown and then you know wory slotting into that offense and not necessarily someone who’s gonna gonna break fantasy and so there’s always the the discussion on you know when someone’s value Falls and keep trade cut are the the owners of that player actually going to sell at that price but you know theoretically there could have been like a really nice bu window for the leagues where you couldn’t get Xavier worthy and rooky drafts and I think that’s probably gone now because of of what’s going on with Rashid rice so it was just unfortunate but you know it means to you better have left your drafts with Xavier worthy because it’s gonna be tough to get him that could be a good transition there Matt babish because we’re trying to get better at this whole radio business you know flowing things nicely you know I’m terrible at it but Dan had Rashi rice actually on his list of players that we added to our sheet so Dan like this is probably the biggest conundrum in all of Dynasty right like what what the hell do we do with Rashid rice yeah I think this is kind of like uh the the Tyreek Hill situation uh you know a few years ago when he was he was uh you know being investigated for uh you know child abuse all that this was all on the heels of the Adrien Peterson thing so uh you you know people were really really freaked out and uh there were there were some deals available for Tyreek Hill if you were willing to jump in there and get them you know and and part of it is just you know kind of swimming Upstream against the public sentiment um you know which some people don’t like to do you know some people really play Fantasy with their their hearts on their sleeves and uh you know they don’t like rostering bad people and all that kind of stuff and I totally get that you know if that’s the way that you like to play Fantasy uh you know more power to you uh you know I’m I’m not going to sit here and tell you you’re wrong uh you know for me personally I I never look at it like I’m buying you know a a particular player or anything like that I’m I’m buying his stats um and I’m not you know my my having a player on a team is any kind of endorsement of his behavior you know because the thing is you know everybody there there are so many people you know and you don’t know what anybody’s capable of and you even the player you think is squeaky clean can all of a sudden you know turn up with something really terrible in their you know in their life and you know you it just because you have them on your team you know that’s to me that’s not really a reason to get rid of them or whatever but I understand that there are people who are that way so uh you know if you’re the type of person who doesn’t mind uh dealing with you know players who have baggage like that uh this can be a buying opportunity and I’ve seen a lot of deals going down for Rashid rice where it’s like a second rounder plus um you know a a kind of a you know a throw throwin type player uh you know like Wale Robinson or something like that um and I think those are the kind of deals that if you are looking to add race to your team uh go ahead and try to make deals like that because you might be able to get one done yeah that was pretty much like the exact kind of value package I was about to to propose cuz you know I kind of try and go on keep trade cut to see where the the masses are and like obviously playing in Dynasty League seeing these trades that go down uh player profilers uh Dynasty trade finder you can you can find you know who’s being sold for what in these leagues but I’ll take that deal all day like if I if I’m a contending team like I will I’ll take it any day of the week because if I’m gonna give up a late second round pick that’s right now I mean even in this draft with how much talent in there you’re taking some significant bets at the 210 to 212 and I would much rather as a competing team in the next one to two seasons make that bet be Rashi rice rather than a an unproven rookie so if that’s what it takes to get rice I mean I’m I’m pretty much buying we saw how dominant he was last season uh from a targets per route run perspective uh from a route win rate perspective just always getting open yards per route run uh producing efficiently uh there’s room to grow these receivers especially get better from their freshman to sophomore years typically so there’s room to grow for Rashid rice even in the midst of some Target competition so what about you Seth are you are you buying at that price yeah I think so I think you know like you look at what he was able to do especially towards the end of the season like he kind of got eased into the offense I’m seeing like I’m looking at his game log now it was a lot of 30 15% 50% you know by week seven and eight he was at 60% snapshare and then you zoom down to the Buffalo game and he was on the field 84% of the time 90% of the time against New England 74% of the time 80% 77% 67 like so he was definitely ramped up and that makes sense because he was a rookie and he was performing on an offense with you know that that had a ton of problems with drops like the the chiefs were among the leaders mvs you know came through in the playoffs but they had a terrible time with drops you know Justin Watson and the crew so now that the Chiefs if you thought you could beat him now like if rash Rashid rice is probably gonna face a suspension of some kind right but they add Xavier worthy who we talked about and Maris Brown to this offense they they added speed speed speed you know MBS goes out the door but Rashid rice I would think is still their number one wide receiver I get it Kelsey’s there so if you could buy him now and Dan’s absolutely right like we play Fantasy Football like the leave it to the NFL franchises to sift through like which kind of character guys that you know that they want on their rosters and again like some of these guys like are not Boy Scouts right and what Rashid rice did was you know to be to pardon my French like he he probably deserves the dumbass of the Year award for what he did you know like it was very stupid especially like you talk a wide receiver with a very promising career of Super Bowl champion and again like and again like you don’t ever want to explain it away but he’s 24 years old I don’t think I would do what he did when I was 24 four years old not even close but we’re talking about a young man with a lot of money and a lot of Fame and stupid things happen so hopefully he you know we’ll see what happens but my guess is he’s looking at a suspension and he’ll be back with the team at some point so if you can buy him especially for second round pick rookie pick plus I think that’s one of that’s at the top of the list of my Dynasty buys because like I said I’ll let an NFL franchise figure out the character concerns you know of a of a player that’s not really my job my job is as a dynasty gamer to figure out who’s going to score me fantasy points at the end of the day and Rashid rice has as good of a chance as all those wide receivers and what I think is going to be a super high octane Chiefs offense in 2024 so um who’s who should we talk about next Dan do you want to nominate somebody real quick real quick I just right before we move on from rir Rice I just want to address first of all shout out to Jolie bar um does a great job editing articles for for player profile player profiler gez among other things but uh he says what if Rashi rice isn’t even good it was all it was just all the other chiefs were so bad and Mahomes is the goat I’m assuming this is satire because I know Joel’s usually smarter than this but yeah I I do wanna I do just want to take the time to point out that Rashi rice was third among receivers in yards after catch uh despite only being 18th among receivers in receptions he was 10th in yards per route run he was 16th in route win rate uh there’s a lot of of metrics that are in his favor outside of of Patrick Mahomes so uh objectively I’m here to say that rasid rice is in fact very good yeah I I think the you know kind of the question that’s buried within there is how how scared should we be of Hollywood Brown and uh Xavier worthy and you know I I I do think that’s a fair question because of a couple reasons number one uh you know we know that Hollywood Brown can be pretty good um xaver worthy certainly has potential nobody knows really what he’s going to be as a pro U you know but that it’s possible that that could be and also you know if rice misses the first you know six games of the Season or whatever you know the offense kind of gels together the way it gels together and he’s not really a part of that and then all of a sudden they’re trying to work him in and so forth um you know so it’s I I understand the concern for this year um you know from you know 2025 on it concerns me less uh because rice is going to be there for another two years after this year so I’m I’m still buying in on rice for that reason even though I do think that there is some danger that uh he might get put on the commissioner’s exempt list because you know this was a pretty spectacular form of stupid that he committed and you know that it just isn’t going to play well if he’s out there playing games and you know seemingly nothing is happening or is going to happen you know the NFL can always say well we’re going to let the legal system you know sorted out but a lot of times they don’t really like players playing while you know things are still looking ugly for them so you know I think there’s some chance he could end up on the the commissioner exempt list or something like that so you know when I’m buying him in Dynasty I’m I’m kind of going at it with the idea of you know I’m hoping that he’s going to be there for my playoffs but I can’t really count on him much before that yeah but even with that risk if you’re a contending team right like a a jayen pulk a late second round pick is it helping your team anymore really unless you get some really good value on like a a even a Jaylen Wright’s a massive bet for a contending team for someone who’s gonna be who needs to contribute on if you need them to contribute on your roster right away so like Jaylen PK versus rasid rice year one you know they still have kind of similar value and I think I I if I’m gonna bet against anything it’s the NFL dulling out massive punishments like Kamar like curb stomped a guy with a bunch of dudes played the entire season while uh while the while the legal matters played out and then got suspended three games so uh I’m no I’m certainly no expert my non-expert prediction is is six to eight games he takes it he he comes back for the back half of the Season yeah I mean I I you know Alex Pon in the in the comments is is kind of you know listing all the the reasons why uh rice might not you know be placed on the Comm ex simplist and I and I get that but you know then players like Adrien Peterson were uh you know and I think it just kind of depends on how how the league perceives this particular situation you know I think the cimera thing they were kind of looking at it was this was an altercation between guys uh for whatever reason that you know that seems to count less U you know but uh we also had uh Kareem hunt you know who the Chiefs just traded away after he was caught on camera uh you know beating his girlfriend so you know the I I never count on the league to do anything in a real rational way I just assume that you know lots of weird things can happen and so I need to be prepared for any of them yeah it’s a good way to look at it for sure um yeah shout out to the chat the chat is definitely chiming in on this and you know so we have slashy in here uh definitely saying we need to go by Rashid rice especially if we have a strong competing team because I think the scenario Matt laid out is very realistic too you know like you you might not have him for the beginning of the season but once the playoffs roll around those fantasy playoffs he could be like hitting you know hitting his form you know in that offense so um Dan is there is um is there a player that you want to nominate on your list first to talk about first I have a couple like that we’ll definitely get to but is there a player that you want to transition to now yeah yeah let’s uh let’s let’s hit a couple Broncos here I want to I want to talk a little B knck and then we can also talk javante Williams as long as we’re on the same team but uh that was yeah that was one I wanted to I thought was interesting it’s a very hot hotly debated topic these days so I’m glad you picked those those two yeah without a doubt so Nicks I’m I’m actually in on um I I think uh he’s in pretty much exactly the right situation with exactly the right coach uh you know and I think for quarterback’s environment matters a lot uh you know and I think he’s probably in the place that he needs to be and I think you know he he gets poo pooed a lot because you know the the Oregon passing game was kind of gimmicky and all that but he was also really good throwing the ball down field and he’s really good taking care of the ball and he’s really good avoiding sacks and those are things that are really important to Shawn Payton um you know so I I think he’s getting overlooked a little bit uh you know I don’t think he’s going to be the type of quarterback where uh we’re drafting him in the first round um a year from now or two years from now or even three years from now in startups but I do think that he’s going to be one of those quarterbacks that’s very uh you know productive for you U you know kind of a Matt Stafford type or or something like that uh where he’s got a lot of utility um even if he doesn’t have you know the the super you know sexy cache and and everything to go with it what do you guys think about that go ahead Matt the great radio just both of us are staring at each other don’t worry audacity will truncate that out um I I tend to agree with you and it’s mostly because he’s a part of the most value insulated position in fantasy football so I mean we look at the mass evaluation of quarterbacks bonck is at qb2 penck who most like don’t even really expect him to start this season barring injury is QB 24 will Levis is QB 23 and Kenny picket held value going into his second year Malik Willis held a little bit of value going into his second year ma Jones like we we see these even the bustiest of busty quarterbacks Paws hold value from your year one into year two so if you’re taking bonick at QB 21 it’s a pretty insulated asset as long as he is going to be the starter next year and I think most Dynasty gamers are going to agree that he will likely be the starter for at least two seasons and while his production at Auburn was nothing to to be in awe at I mean he went to a a more talented offense a more uh you know an an the offense Justin Herbert graduated from in Oregon a similar offense it’s not the exact same offense but we got to see his arm we got to see him surrounded with talent and you know these efficiency numbers and production numbers that he put up in his his Seasons with Oregon are are legit I mean you see that step up 2,300 passing yards up to 3600 up to 4500 the next years I mean hitting 400 pass attempts and then 470 pass attempts the next season while increasing his yards per attempt and his completion percentage and his passing touchdowns I mean something’s going on with Auburn CA he leaves Auburn and all of a sudden bonick is good and we know it wasn’t the surrounding talent in total because Troy Franklin Troy Franklin was a fourth round pick amongst all of these receivers so what does that say about Bo Knicks being a a top 12 pick in his number one wide receiver Troy Franklin is a fourth round pick says the league is actually interested in BO Knicks and what he can do in a pro style offense so I do like B Knicks uh Seth and I with the F Casey Meyers the FF Dynasty pretty much agreed that Bo and Michael penck Jr are both first round picks and anytime I got the opportunity in a super Flex League uh to get one of those two as they fell to the back of the first early to midc rounds hit the button all day every day I mean I couldn’t believe in some of these leagues like Bo Knicks who’s a starting quarterback was going after Michael penck I thought that was kind of crazy I know the the Broncos receiving core isn’t all that great but courland Sutton’s still a bronos as far as I know I believe in Troy Franklin especially just because he was bow Nick’s receiver in Oregon I think there’s you know something to uncover with Marvin Mims so not a completely untalented core I believe in Greg doul as well so um I can’t believe it I never would have thought I would be a b Knicks guy at this point in the season but but here I am Seth what say you yeah I I I think I like B Knicks but I like him for I I don’t know if I like the the prospect bonick but I love the situation that he’s in I’m I agree with Dan there and I and I love his value like his V like I was in a rookie draft just that started this week and I had the 2011 and the 202 and both B Knicks and Michael penck were there and I sat there and I thought about it for a minute I’m like do I take take B Knicks and go with you know Trey Benson or and then I just kind of slap myself as I like I’m a rebuilding team I’ll just take both of them and Bank the value right because they’re both like B knck is gonna be a starter and then Michael pennx is going to be a starter down the road and we when we were talking to Casey about it we came to the conclusion that you know if you’re if you’re a contending team like you know some people like to trade these 111s and 112s back into the first round rookie picks for rookie picks next year that’s a move that some people do and we we decided we we I don’t know if you want to call it Galaxy braining it or what but we said why would you do that when you can just draft Michael pennx like that’s what Michael penx is he’s a 2025 first or a 2026 first or however you want to look at that and B Knicks is gonna like likely going to start games at quarterback this year and I probably can take bonick and potentially flip him if if I need to later on even even if I have quarterbacks in a super Flex league so you it’s it’s one of those assets like a starting quarterback in a superflex league it’s one of those assets that people are going to be on the lookout for so I like it from that perspective and I like it from the upside of oh well well maybe I’m wrong about this and maybe B knck is really good because Lord knows I’ve been wrong before so I I’ll take some shot shots on B Knicks like especially when he I’ve seen him fall out of the first round which I think is crazy like I again I’m pressing the button on Michael penck and B knck in these super Flex drafts when they fall out of the first round so I like B knck not necessarily because I like the talent but because I love the value and where he’s going in drafts lot of reasons to wake Nicks for sure and you know if you want to call this galaxy braining I guess you can because it I had uh one team where I did a productive struggle last year it was uh the you know the inaugural year of the draft or of The League last year so I did the productive struggle ended up with a 101 um and definitely needed a quarterback you know of course Caleb Williams obvious choice right but I really wanted to get a Marvin Harrison share on this team so I traded from the 101 to the 102 um moved a a second round pick way up from the back end of the second round of the front end of the second round and then was able to trade that plus a little bit more back into the first round and picked up Nicks as well so I was able to get my quarterback and I got Marvin Harrison Jr um you know and you know I do think that Cale Williams is you know a much better Prospect than Bo Knicks but I liked the idea of Marvin Harrison Jr plus Nicks better than uh you know getting Caleb plus whatever I could get with that you know early second round pick that I had before so you know I sometimes you just have to take a look at things like that and and you know that’s that’s a good way to you know kind of rationalize a value in the back end of the first round uh which you guys were talking about yeah no I I totally yeah I I’m right there with you I I think um yeah let’s let’s do that I’m I’m reading a aloud notes but let’s let’s uh pivot to slashy has a good question in the chat can you guys discuss the Broncos Log Jam wide receivers I don’t know how to sort between Sutton Mims and Franklin I think this is a like a perfect question asked Dan so Dan what’s your take on that yeah so I mean as long as Sutton is there he’s the you know he’s the clear number one receiver to me um you know Mims is I think the guy that has the most I have the most questions about uh just because last year you know sea pyton kept talking up mems and talking up mems and talking up mems you know and this is a guy that he traded up to get you know this this was their first pick of the draft in 2023 right um you know and they traded up to get him you know so I was all in on Mims I had Mims shares coming up my ears and redraft you know baseball uh Dynasty everything and you know the just the the way that pton is sitting there talking him up all season long and not using him was super frustrating and that to me is a little bit of a red flag I mean you know if you’re going to keep talking about this guy but you know when it comes down to it in the game and you you’re not actually get him getting him the ball what is that saying about the player um you know so I’m I’m probably the most worried about him I love the fact that uh Nicks and Franklin have that uh that that Bond already uh they know how to work well together and uh Franklin was a player that I really thought would probably be a second rounder rather than a fourth rounder you know so the fact that he dropped was you know that that’s giving me some information right there that tells me I was probably a little bit too high on him but in the other hand you know the NFL doesn’t get everything right all the time um you know so I I feel comfortable that Franklin will at least be a semi-productive player I don’t know that he’ll ever turn out to be a League winner or anything like that um you know Mims probably is a more talented of the two players um but I think it’s probably going to be one or the other of them really has you know comes away at the end of this year with some value and the other one is really scratching for Value what’s it what’s say you Matt yeah I I I tend to agree there I I really want to like Troy Franklin this year and there’s a couple issues there a like the shower narrative is very real and they do have a connection but at the end of the day if Troy Franklin isn’t cut out to be a starting receiver in the NFL he’s probably not GNA play I mean sea Payton brought over you know one of his favorite players at at New Orleans and tquan Smith and and never actually got him on onto the field so at the end of the day Shawn Payton’s going to play who has the best chances to get them to win unless his name is Jerry Judy and you’re trying desperately to trade him for whatever you can so you’re feeding him seven targets a game uh to try and get him some production to get some trade value out of them which is it’s why I want to feel like Mims didn’t play last year I I but we’ll find out if that’s true or not as this season goes along if he can’t find his way onto the field now with Judy gone and and off team it’s going to be it’s going to be trouble but he does project to be the starting slot receiver uh and the trouble for Troy Franklin is that Josh Reynolds is is technically right now projected to be the team’s uh second starting outside receiver and he’s not in he’s not Elite but he’s he’s talented he’s an NFL receiver like he’s a Pros kind of guy where you know he drops that pass I think it was against uh is it against San Francisco uh that he dropped a big pass but like that was shocking right like Josh Reynolds doesn’t normally do that he’s very reliable uh he’s a roll guy but he’s very good at what he does so it’s going to be tough for try Franklin to get out on the field and I I would throw some beste ball bets maybe on on Josh Reynolds at the end of rounds uh he’ll be probably a guy you want to pick up if you have deep benches on your Dynasty roster because lo and behold rookie season rookie hype season Fates and Josh Reynolds is somehow getting four to five targets a game in in Denver system yeah I I want to say say Marvin Mims is a buy for me like just kind of looking looking at uh the keep trade Cuts rankings I think he’s that one player 183 wide receiver 69 um as my computer freezes up here hopefully I don’t lose you guys but I I want to say he’s a buy out of all these wide receivers and and again like all of like it it’s to the point too where you can almost pick your favorite one if you think Sutton’s going to get a majority of the targets he’s a veteran like I don’t know how hope if you’re a win now team hopefully he’s not necessarily you’re not necessarily depending on him to you know start games but that’s probably more of a depth piece ideally but Mims I think for me is the one that I’m willing to to take a shot on especially at his value because you’re talking about like early third round pick for for Mims like we’re talking probably Roman Wilson Malachi Corley you know those are receivers that were drafted after Marvin Mims I know it a different draft year but I think that’s fair I think that at that price I would take a shot maybe maybe I can get him for a mid third rounder that’s probably what I would prefer but especially during the some of these rookie drafts and who knows maybe your rookie drafts are mostly over I know M some of mine are still going um that that could be a move that you can make during the draft that not too many look people look twice at but that that’s a shot I think I would take um on Marvin Mims but we um we need to talk about javante Williams and we’ll we’ll talk about javante Williams but we have to take a quick break we we’ll take an informative segment or we will pause for an informative segment from the podfather about Underdog but don’t go anywhere because we have much much more with Dan Williamson right after this this episode is made possible by Underdog fantasy and Underdog fantasy is the leader in beste ball when you go to join an underdog fantasy beste ball draft it fills very quickly 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underworld go sign up for Underdog right now it’s a great deal and that promo code will help you out so javante Williams Dan Javonte Williams am I crazy that I think he’s clearly the lead running back in in Denver or or what what do you think what do you think about gavon Williams I think despite all the you know the talk and everything else that’s going on on X and you know Sean pton saying what he says and all that he probably is the lead running back on Denver but I don’t really know exactly what that means exactly there we go oh yeah I’ve been trying to figure out what that means uh for for many many years and um you know Sean Payton is he just he he usually uses at these two running backs a lot of times he likes to use three um you know so to me it really depends on you know I I worry less about who’s the lead running back on a Shan Payton team and I try to figure out who’s going to have you know those roles where uh you know it’s it’s really valuable carries you know or really valuable touches you know who’s got the goal line who’s getting the the pass attempts and so forth like that so you know the the targets and goal line running is is probably the most important thing and if Williams can retain the goal line role that’s probably you know what we need to see at the very fa minimum um I think that probably there’s going to be one maybe two backs that are more pass catchers than what javante Williams is so we’ll just have to see but it’s a it’s a really interesting situation there because audri EST um you know is a was a really good college player U you know on Notre Dame which is a really good team team and uh you know we’ve we’ve seen a guy who was kind of similar but smaller kyen Williams you know an estimate is like a you know jacked up Karn Williams a little bit um and then Jalil mcclaflin uh you know also looked real good and you know Shawn pyton has been effusive in his praise for him you know so it it definitely worries me uh you know if you have javante Williams I don’t really think right now is the time to sell right now is probably the time to just kind of hold and and wait and see how things shake out uh because you’re probably not going to get a really good price right now I think even if things don’t shake out well for him it’s you know you can get in three or four months what you could get right now uh but if things start going well for them uh you know the the price is going to get better and you know my recommendation is if you’re in a Denver back and you know whether it’s mclin or uh ese or you know Williams whoever and you can sell them for a good price it’s probably the right thing to do because it’s just going to be a frustrating situation so you know getting yourself out of it being able to get into something else at a price that you like uh you know that’s the way to go to me Seth what do you think I I like I call me c maybe I’m just stuck on my like Prospect evaluation of javante Williams but he was one of one of my favorite running backs in that class and he got the draft Capital we thought he was you know in a good situation at the time then they bring over Russell Wilson and you’re like oh my God like this guy’s going to be great and we all know what happened there but I I think I agree I think you’re you’re probably you’re probably holding on to javante Williams you’re probably not selling him and I’m honestly looking to buy if somebody’s really looking to get out of him and is willing to get him get rid of him right but I’m also taking I’m also cheating because I cheat in Dynasty I’m also taking shots on audri ese I’m also checking the price of Julio mlin I’m I’m taking shots you know on these running backs toward I’m using the back end of my roster uh to to see if I can hit on one of these running backs so I can potentially M hopefully I’m not depending on them as a starter but hopefully like I said as a depth piece that I can use on on a bye or something um that’s that’s how I’m playing it like I I’m I’m cheating but I like gavonte Williams to lead this backfield in cares that’s probably what’s going to happen especially esally considering like you have a rookie quarterback you’re probably going to want to throw out you know the the Veteran running back that’s going to be standing in the back field right next to him and in you know pass protection situations on third down so what say you Mr babit so before I kind of get going let me let me start by trying to get a a temperature check here and what you guys would sell for so rookie draft hasn’t happened yet I’m sitting at the 204 and I send you the 204 for for javante Williams is that a price you’re willing to sell at I’ll take it I I probably would sell I probably would yeah and then 2025 second you know projected early but you don’t necessarily know you’re still willing to sell I’d probably keep them for that honestly yeah I I’d probably try to rope in throwing in something along with it you know like a a third or you know some other back that uh you know is has you know at least a prayer um you know if you could get like a second plus uh uh kamani Vidal or you know maybe uh Tracy up in uh you know for the Giants somebody like that and that future second that might be something I would do then last one uh you have javante Williams and Joe Mixon owner comes in and just offers you one for one straight up oh give me Joe Mixon like I’m not really even thinking about it too too much but because I think Joe Mixon in that Texans offense that’s hint hint nudge nudge that’s one of my redraft running back targets because I think that’s just a teed up situation for him I think he still got some something left there too so so the reason I ask this is because on keep trade cut Joe Mixon is 18 Devon Williams is rb9 and just a little bit higher is a 2024 early second so we’re willing to we’re willing to sell Javonte Williams for the 204 and we much prefer an RB that’s right next to him in the value and so just for that reason I think I’m selling Javonte Williams or at least trying to because it’s just interesting that he’s ranked inside the top 20 RBS like he’s not in the best offensive situation he’s coming off of an RB 31 performance in fantasy points per game his highest finish in his career was his rookie season uh at at 22 rb22 but that being said despite his poor performance last year he had a lot of great peripheral metrics he was 15th in total weighted opportunities he was top 10 in Red Zone touches uh the most important metric to me is uh 11th in Target share with 133% anything over 10% is generally a very significant metric for RB production uh he was also ninth in Breakaway run rate but he was 60th in two yards per carry so they couldn’t move the ball on the ground and what’s telling to me year-over-year is that this team didn’t invest anything in their offensive line this off season their offensive line was not good last year so they didn’t have any draft Capital they didn’t spend any any moneyfree agency they didn’t make a splash in the in the offensive line department so I don’t expect that to go away so I kind of look at Javonte Williams as someone that’s like you have to either somehow earn a lion share of the opportunity well over 60% or I have to bet on your efficiency increasing and given some of his metrics I just don’t know if that’s a bet I’m willing to make so I was expecting to see his value be more of a later second and at that price I would buy but with it is right now if you can get his market value I’m going to sell I think that’s I think that’s fair that’s that’s very well said Matt babich you you might have swung me on javante Williams but like I said I I still recommend cheating when you can and taking shots on multiple of these Denver running backs Matt is there a player on the sheet that you want to talk about or we could go off script we could we could go wild card here is there a player that you want to nominate I will I will nominate somebody from the show sheet before I do I think we’re I think we’re all in agreement we can talk about Joe Mixon if we’re not but I just want to get a note out there since just to to segue off of that uh if you’re a competing team I’m willing to pay a premium on Joe Mixon like I don’t think you can actually get him for an early 2024 second I don’t necessarily think that’s going to be possible in a lot of especially in a lot of higher stake leagues uh I’m going to pay a first for for Joe Mixon a late first a 2025 first I’m willing to put that on the line because I’m gonna say it right here right now for the first time Joe Mixon rb1 in fantasy points per game again because he does it every year uh he’s gonna do it again so but if if no one has any objections to to buying Joe Mixon we talked about Daniel Jones last time and and Seth and I talked about it back backstage for a little bit we may be passing ships because in February Seth was buying Daniel Jones and I was trying to get out from underneath him granted you guys did kind of turn me a little bit in the conversation by just you know he’s our he’s QB 32 why not just buy him uh but now I’m leaning towards buying and you’re leaning towards selling so if you don’t have any objections to Joe Mixon Seth I would I would like to hear your case on selling Daniel Jones if that’s truly what you believe yeah I I think I think it just depends like we we were talking about and I know what keep try Cut’s going to say keep try Cut’s probably going to be super down on Daniel Jones because the public doesn’t like boring old Danel yeah quarterback 29 29 even though his his Val how is this possible his value hasn’t gone up at all I mean come on like he’s a starting quarterback in the league but I suspect here’s I think this is how you should play the Daniel Jones situation if you were trying to get out of Daniel Jones I would wait until the games actually start to happen and these injuries start to take place and you see these contending teams start to scramble in these superflex leagues and the truth is there people are going to see the light on Daniel Jones he has a bunch of Rush rushing upside from the quarterback position he’s a low-key this this is why we liked him going into last season this is why people had steamed him up so far in like startups is because of that rushing upside and now he has Malik neighbors the offensive line is probably still terrible but Malik neighbors is GNA help him out quite a bit and yeah so I I would wait until the season starts because I suspect you talk about late first round picks I think there’s a real chance that one of these contending teams in first place might give you their first round pick for Daniel Jones I I think that offers out there like I’ve seen it happen before so what do you think Dan yeah I think that’s exactly the way to play it because I mean you know when when teams quarterbacks go down they do start getting desperate especially if they’re in the hunt um I had a team that ended up uh at won in 2022 um it ended up winning last year uh but I was going through quarterbacks like Kleenex I mean it was just you know Kurt Cousins Daniel Jones you name it uh you know the if if they got hurt they were on my team you know so I I basically burned through pretty much most of my uh 2024 picks um you know trying to buy quarterbacks I I ended up uh with Gardner menu and um Sam Howell and Joe flacko uh you know riding those guys to the end but it you know got me where I wanted to go um but the thing is you know I was I was paying a little bit of a premium for these guys because you know what you know if you’re a contender you don’t want to just stop contending because your quarterback Goes Down You’re Gonna you’re G to spend what it takes to get another quarterback and try to keep going so uh that’s definitely where you want to be selling quarterbacks like Daniel Jones all right so we’re all kind of actually in agreement that you know if you’re if you have them you definitely want to hold and if you can get a late second especially or like even a 2025 second two3 if the if the owner is desperate enough to get out from under him you get that on a starting quarterback off season’s going to be the cheapest time to get starting quarterbacks so if you are a QB needing team you know it’s easier to get Daniel Jones than Justin Fields right now which we don’t know what is going to happen with him so you know you might as well buy I mean we’re getting a guy who was the qb10 in fantasy points per game in 2022 I understand that it’s easy to think that that g That season is more of an outlier because you don’t like Daniel Jones but he’s also had three finishes inside the top 17 in fantasy points per game yes he had an abysmal 2023 season uh but this is also the first time he’s ever had an alpha receiver uh in his repertoire I got into an argument in a in a fantasy league because the group chat was saying that uh Malik neighbors didn’t have a quarterback that was going to be able to sustain a wide receiver one season but Chris lave did and that that just made me that made me mad like I I understand not like liking Daniel Jones but Derek Carr I mean come on like if Derek Carr is is capable of of giving olve a near top 12 season like the same is that for neighbors and we need to recognize how important having that kind of guy is in fantasy football like Joe burrow granted he was a rookie struggled without without a Jamar Chase like we’ve even see that offense sputtered when Jamar Chase was sidelined and it was only T Higgins like having a true Alpha receiver like Malik neighbors is going to change this offense he was throwing to Darius Slayton as his wide receiver one Isaiah Hodgins Wale Robinson I mean this is this is nuts he’s got Malik neighbors he’s he’s the cheapest starting quarterback you can get so absolutely go buy him right now because it’s the price is only going up he’s a starting quarterback yep I I think this leads in into a convers ation about another quarterback um there’s a polarizing one what what Dan what do you think about deshun Watson because DeShaun Watson is another one of these quarterbacks that used to be elite we think maybe he can still be elite but I’m looking at keep Trey cut the pulse of the community right now the fantasy football community and he’s at quarterback 26 quarterback 26 what are we doing with deshun Watson there yeah that’s to me that’s a crazy price um you have to be thinking about buying Watson at that price I just did a startup this year um as a high stake startup with a a bunch of guys that are just they’re they’re total sick degenerates um yeah you know it it’s the kind of League where you you can get by with nothing nothing at all you know uh there there is no value dropping it just doesn’t happen and I was able to put deshun Watson on my team relatively late in the startup draft uh relative to the other quarterbacks and to me it was kind of the no-brainer decision because you know everybody else that was left uh was pretty much completely devoid of upside you know so there’s just you know you’re looking at like uh you know the Matthew staffords and the Aaron roders and uh you know and worst Eric cars and and you know Daniel Jones and so forth like that you know and to be able to get Deshawn Watson in there a guy who legitim does still have some upside you know because he he was legit injured last year uh you know and it’s hard to fault him for the season that he had um is very unfortunate after everything else that he came off of you know but I don’t think the guy’s completely forgotten how to play quarterback I don’t think that he’s completely forgotten how to use his legs which he used to do pretty well uh you know he’s a couple years older but you know there is legit upside you know like if you ask me which of the you know the like quarterbacks rated from 20 on could jump up back into the top 10 I I would say DeShaun Watson would probably be my number one candidate for that uh you know so and I was making offers for him in uh in a in the rookie drafts um in one League where I was offering like the 203 204 the guy didn’t really want to pull the trigger but it was more that he was quarterback poor not that he thought it was a terrible value um you know so I I think you could probably get for an early second or an early in a midc or something like that if you can pick up a quarterback that good for that price that’s you know that’s crazy yeah I I I’m right there with you because when we look at deshun Watson and I get it it it it’s a long long time ago in a galaxy far away the 2020 season the 2019 season but this is a guy who I mean even in his rookie season he only played seven games in 2017 but he averaged 24.7 fantasy points per game and like and then never had a season until you know he he had his little incident right and that’s a euphemism if I’ve ever used one in my life but this is like 20 plus fantasy points per game at the quarterback position lock it in a first round pick and a superflex startup and now he’s had back-to-back Seasons where he’s dealt with injuries like he’s only played in six game well one of them one of the seasons was because of the suspension and then the next season he was injured or he was dealing with injuries and so now he’s and this is crazy to think about and there was a quarterback as you were speaking that entered my mind that is not like it’s a Redemption story but it’s not even the same Arc story arc like it kind of reminds me of Jared Goff like Jared Goff was good with the Rams and was valued really highly not as high as Deshawn Watson but then goes to a new situation everybody assumes oh like the Lions this is gonna be terrible jarro goff’s terrible and now jarro goff’s good again and I think deshun Watson can be good again I don’t know if he’s gonna be you know Elite to the point where he was Elite but he’s only 28 years old I mean he’s gota I mean for a professional athlete like 28 years old especially for a quarterback is is nothing so I I’m right there with you I think he’s got to be on your buy list yeah I I tend to agree you know he’s 29 years old and somebody that was once one of the top quarterback Assets in Dynasty that that you could own but I I tend to gravitate towards what the fantasy plumber is saying like I part of me does truly believe that something is broken there that can’t be fixed and this is projecting its you know probably overanalyzing uh we’ll never know what truly goes on into Deshawn Watson’s head but one point uh Josh Larkey brought up it was either like a picture or a video or just kind of maybe just speaking to I don’t remember it very well but he said that DeShaun Watson kind of looks like he’s carrying something with him right perhaps it’s guilt uh wow I’m not going to get too much into that because like I said it’s it it’s it is pure speculation but but he just has not felt like even the same being since all of this has happened let alone the same quarterback like even on the field he just doesn’t look like he’s had that spark there’s a lot of you know a lot of mental things that he has to go through whether it’s you know getting hate from people in the public or you know hateful messages you know on social media like not a lot of people are talking about him very well so it again a lot of speculation but just as as a person it’s hard for me to look at him and and be like you know you look like you’re G to turn it around you know like that’s kind of what I’m getting to is like I haven’t seen anything from Deshaun Watson that makes me believe that he’s gonna turn this around but as you two have mentioned if he does unlock that you’re talking about a massive massive uh value gain and even if he doesn’t I mean he put up 15 fantasy points per game in each of the six games he’s played over across the past two seasons that’s not bad so like you’re buying him at QB 26 even if he goes out there and his 15 fantasy points per game next year he’s out kicking QB 26 so I understand buying him uh I have other quarterback targets where I’m QB needy but everything’s very situational so I I understand stand wanting to you know Target him and there’s probably some leagues where it may shake out that way where I Target deshun Watson but uh value-wise I’m okay with it he’s just not on the top list of top of my list of people who I’m going for I would buy him before Daniel Jones I’ll te I’ll I’ll say I’ll say that just to clear the air before people start talking crazy like I would rather take the bet on DeShawn Watson at cost than a guy like Daniel Jones but right and and and here’s a you know a couple thoughts for you uh you know number one one as a as a much much much I don’t want to say how much older human being um then than you guys uh you know I I what you what you said Matt resonated about you know he looks like he’s carrying something um you know but that’s something that people can get past in time ABS as well and uh you know that that doesn’t need to be a permanent State of Affairs for some people it is but uh you know people are able to to grow beyond that and you know I think he might be able to do that and the other thing is you know here and here’s what I did you know deshun Watson you go get him and then you go get yourself some really cheap jamus Winston and you’re covered oh yeah because you know what best case scenario deshun Watson does great and that asset massively increases in value or at least increases in value and you win there worst case scenario deshun Watson does just good enough to hold on to the job but isn’t a very good quarterback then you’re kind of stuck the middle scenario is deshun Watson sucks and they throw Jamon swinston in there and now you’ve got yourself a Fantasy Carnival um you know so it there it’s an easy way to win when you can pick up a backup like jamus Winston throw him in with DeShaun Watson and you know then then you’re really covered I like that I I like that that kind of goes back to the Denver cheating like you can cheat Dynasty like you can have both both of your bases covered um and wow literary very literary from Josh Larkey I don’t know if he’s like writes poetry in his spare time about deshun Watson carrying the guilt of his crimes around with him on the football field but this I’m pretty sure he talked about this like back in uh like in 2022 like when he was like first coming back from it but like gotta he he like cuz I had him in some seasonal leagues and he’s a very vibrant like positive guy and we haven’t seen that from him when he came back like regardless of what’s fueling that like it’s a very real thing where like his onfield demeanor just hasn’t seemed like he’s there like before the injury concerns came out people were saying that he was just pulling himself out of the game uh so I mean this is how he looks on the field like he’s approaching Jay Cutler levels of apathy where oh no oh no he’s a he’s a couple games away from getting a a smoking desun Watson meme I don’t know that’s a whole new level of uh apathy there Jay Cutler man I actually love I loved Jay Cutler and I feel like he was an underrated competitor and quarterback but but for the sake of the joke don’t oh man that’s uh don’t don’t the the the NFC championship game I can’t get out of my head when standing on Sidelines um but do we want to go like rapid fire with one more like Dan what’s more dynasty buy real quick that you could give people because I feel like we’ve been on the or Dynasty sell any anything do do whatever you want I’ll give you a buy and furthermore I’m gonna give you a bear even better oh I like this yeah give give me DeAndre Swift all right all right I like it love DeAndre Swift I’ve been uh I’ve been buying him here and there definitely uh taking a lot of shares and redraft and bestall I think he’s in a perfect situation uh you know where they’ve got a new quarterback they’re going to let him carry a lot of the load I think you know they didn’t pay him what they’re paying him to be a committee back um you know it khil Herbert I think he’s a good back but I just don’t think Chicago likes him very well uh Roshan Johnson I you know they didn’t let him do very much uh you know when the other backs were hurt it seemed like they were always using Roshan plus somebody you know they never really wanted him to carry the load and then they go go out you know after spinning a third round pick on Roshan and they grab DeAndre Swift that tells me that the Bears are all in on Swift and they’re going to give him every chance to succeed now you can say I don’t think he’s a good player um I know a lot of people think that I disagree I think he’s a pretty good player who’s had some injury issues in the past and he got set up in a situation on Philadelphia last year where they just didn’t use him that much because of you know Jaylen Hertz 15 uh you know tush pushes and all that kind of stuff um you know he didn’t come through for us in fantasy in a very big way uh but I’m in on the Redemption story here in Chicago I love that because sorry I cut you off no you’re you’re totally fine but he uh he was uh a career low in receptions last year and I don’t think that’s going to happen with with uh with Caleb Williams and number 22 in targets among running backs and I don’t think that’s going to happen with Caleb Williams so I love that I love that from you Dan that’s a good call yeah but I I have a couple worries about DeAndre Swift now I’ll I’ll admit like in preparation for this show I went in and looked at some of his numbers and I went oh whoa DeAndre Swift has been a top 15 RB in fantasy points per game three out of his four seasons and all of them outside of of Philadelphia and that’s kind of what stuck out to me because the these narratives start to build up on a player as years go along and sometimes you zoom out and you’re like whoa whoa whoa DeAndre Swift has hasn’t even been that bad like he just struggled to beat out Jamal Williams goal line role and then he gets traded to Philadelphia who spent way more Capital than they should have for how much they planed to use him uh it didn’t really make any sense what they what they did there in that situation but then you know 10% Target share in Philly was his lowest of his career and that’s what’s big but Caleb Williams is not necessarily known for throwing to his running back is this something that’s going to translate from college to the NFL quite frankly I have no idea like I I I don’t know if Caleb Williams wasn’t targeting Marshon Lloyd because he didn’t have to or because he’s just a guy who prefers to throw the ball downfield but we can be sure that Shane Waldren is going to try and get the most out of Swift’s Talent so he’s going to get targeted my guess is he’s going to be 10% Target share guy uh I think I’m okay with Swift’s with swift at face value similarly to Watson it’s like he’s not the first running back that I’m kind of going after like I would rather Target Joe Mixon than DeAndre Swift but if I see somebody trading for Swift at Cost I’m not saying like oh terrible move like Swift is going to bust this year I just think there is some uncertainty as to how Caleb Williams is going to be in terms of because if he’s not checking down then Swift is going to have to be schemed into the passing game a lot I we just don’t know what that’s G to look like uh but Swift has a lot of positive factors to him the one thing that I I and I don’t mean to pooo on the whole the whole contract point but I I think we’re we’re starting to see these running back contracts look like they’re worth more than they are so I do think that I do think that the Bears brought him in for a reason and are going to use him he’s their starting running back so this is different than mil Sanders in that way but in the same vein I don’t look at either of them as locked in starters because of what they got from their their teams technically I don’t think this will happen but the Bears can save a million bucks if they cut Swift at the end of this season so that’s kind of the interesting thing about his contract is that it is uh 24 over three but they could get out Scott free next year but that’s actually a good thing for Swift because that promotes more usage in year one to see what they have in this guy so I I I’m I’m okay with it all right um is there a is there a buy or sell that you want to bring up Matt as we kind of round things out uh are you paying the premium to get CJ Stroud at cost right now is he one of those guys like momes keep in in mind we once thought Herbert was one of those guys where you just you pay the farm to get the elite quarterback so let’s let’s kind of talk about that as we round out the show like are you willing to pay the premium to get a CJ Stroud on your team I’m gonna s I’m gonna say no uh just because of you know kind of what you were talking about Matt U you know you don’t want to buy guys when they’re super high uh you know and everybody is so in on Stroud the Houston offense it’s one of the most expensive Stacks you can get in baseball uh you know it’s it’s just crazy expensive he is going in the first round of startups here’s the thing about Stout his ceiling is not the same ceiling as a quarterback that really uses his legs U his ceiling is more like Dak Prescott than it is like uh you know Lamar Jackson or Jaylen Herz or um you know Josh Allen and we’ve seen the prices you can get you know Dak Prescott for so I would rather you know I’d rather just go get a Dak Prescott for a lot cheaper and let somebody else you know have the designer option in CJ Stout and you can say well you know yeah Prescott’s older yeah you’re right but uh you know if you’re talking about a three four five year window Dak Prescott’s still fine uh you know and I I don’t project any Dynasty players out any F farther than that quarterbacks are the only ones I even give even remotely close to like four years with and um you know I’m I’m totally comfortable with with Dak over the next four years so I’ll just take that cheaper option yeah I Stroud’s tricky because the value is so high like you said and he finishes the quarterback 11 last year he’s the quarterback seven in fantasy points per game and you’re going how how why why I get it he’s young okay I know like in in Dynasty we care about these things except for quarterback like quarterback it shouldn’t matter as much um so a move that I’m currently trying to do is I’m trying to tear down from the in the leagues that I have CJ strad I’m trying to tear down to like Kyler Murray and Anthony Richardson um maybe I’d go so far down as to go with a brock pie and to see what I can get on top of that because I feel like I’m gonna get a similar production from Brock Pie as long as he’s you know in that situation which I think San Francisco is going to support him I mean Brock pie is also young doesn’t have the draft Capital but he was the quarterback six last year and he was the quarterback six in fantasy points per game so if I can if that’s a if that’s a move that’s out there for me to make I’ll be making it and actually I I did make that move um last year now that I think about it and we talked about it on this channel and I think it worked out pretty well for me because I think it turned into I traded CJ strap for Brock pie in two 2024 first round picks and I think one of those picks was Jaden Daniels and the other pick was lad makoni so I feel pretty good about that I feel like I came out ahead on that so again stad I yeah I’m right there with you I think he’s at the top of his value because he’s not one of these quarterbacks that’s gonna run around like a Lamar Jackson or an Anthony Richardson or a Kyler Murray so those like if I could tear down to that like if I could get Kyler Murray Plus or some Anthony Richardson plus yeah I’ll I’ll take that all day long Mr babish do you have an opinion on this subject yeah I forgot I was the one that posed the question actually um I was over there interacting with the chat and the the conversation got a little lost for me but but yeah I I agree I think the only what I’ll say is if you truly believe like you’re in a super Flex League you’re sitting with you uh let’s say a baker Mayfield at best kind of qb2 maybe even worst if you pay the farm for stad you better win in in the next couple of Seasons because you’re gonna be so strapped for Capital that you better hope that within the next few seasons like the the odds of a major value dip and I mean by him going from qb2 like a Herbert like back down to qb10 the odds of that happening at some point in the next five years we just know the market is very volatile it’s it’s pretty likely guys like Jaylen Herz Josh Allen Patrick Mahomes like these are the exceptions Jaylen and Josh because they run a lot and Patrick because he’s Patrick eing Mahomes these These are anomalies and stad because he doesn’t Rush is a victim to passing efficiency and other quarterbacks so there’s Lamar Jackson who’s going to be in there for a while there’s Joe burrow like Justin Herbert could very easily get some talent in the next two to three seasons and come back up so you know at the end of the day if you win a championship trading for CJ strad congrats like La Ram style right like sell your soul for it it’s you can do it but it’s a it’s a move that’s more than likely gonna have you sitting there in two to three years saying like man I just I can’t believe I I overpaid for for CJ strout if you did it with Herbert a couple years ago you’re saying like I paid two firsts plus to get the qb9 in an offense that’s thrown to Lad maconi as their wide receiver one it can happen to anybody if it can happen to Herbert yeah I I think that’s a good uh place to place to end it uh the chat I just want to shout out the chat the chat’s been alive all night fantasy plumber’s in there slash is in there gerod Dean is in there uh so thank you guys don’t forget to subscribe if you’re not already subscribed don’t forget get to click the like button on this video but Dan uh thank you so much for joining us uh what do you have to plug and if you have a bold take to to I’m gonna try to end the show appropriately this time maybe I still have to get in my Aaron Rogers stuff but uh what do you have to plug and do you have a bold take for us tonight if you don’t that’s fine too because I’m kind of putting you on the spot yeah I I didn’t come equipped with a bold take um I’ll have to think about that as we’re as we’re signing off here but uh yeah thanks guys for having me on this is always a blast uh you know we’re we’re already at a you know Buck 14 here on time and it it’s it’s felt like literally 30 minutes so uh yeah a ton of fun love the chat in this uh in here too uh lot of lot of great comments and questions and and 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ball in the end zone and Joe Mixon is going to be winning a lot of people a lot of money including this guy I don’t know is is that bold is that is that is that a bold prediction I don’t know if that there there’s a lot of people are out on Mixon so yeah I would go tell go tell Devon aain drafters that Joe Mixon is g to out score him in fantasy points per game and you tell you get back to me and tell me if you think it’s a hot take yeah I don’t yeah now now we’re now we’re getting spicy I like that yeah fine you want me to say it Joe Mixon outscores Devon a chain and fantasy points per game clip it Jay clip it there we go we got we got a viral take there for sure it’s hot why not I love I love the I I’ll throw you my heart take as well um I’m I’m going to say Jaden Dan finishes as a top five quarterback in fantasy this year I like it I like those those rushing quarterbacks like my my the only thing like just please get him a slip and slide just get down but go out of bounds like we don’t need you taking these big hits because that that was like my one concern in college was like oh my god dude like just this is the SEC you gotta get down man but I love that I I love that I wasn’t the biggest like fan of his as far as like a prospect but I there’s definitely like tools there that can be developed and he’s in a good situation too for Fantasy Football so I think that’s very possible and where he’s going in drafts right now super late especially in some of these best ball leagues so love that I don’t know if I have a bold prediction tonight um I mean anything I say about Caleb Williams people are just gonna poo poo but I think Caleb Williams is going to break that Chicago Bears record he’s going to have 4,000 passes yards I mean come on DJ Moore Keenan Allen romad dun Cole KT this is a good year for rookie quarterbacks if you’re into the rookie quarterbacks like I I you could even sell me on like b niick super super late in some of these best ball leagues so Caleb 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