Players we’re not drafting in 2024: Barkley, Aiyuk and more | Rotoworld Football Show (FULL SHOW)

Patrick Daugherty (@RotoPat), Denny Carter (@CDCarter13) and Kyle Dvorchak (@kyletweetshere) welcome in special guest Davis Mattek (@DavisMattek). They begin with some schedule release fallout, breaking down why best ball players are suddenly shaky on drafting Dolphins and Lions. They then dive into players Davis is avoiding at ADP, beginning with Saquon Barkley. Will there be enough touchdowns to go around in Philadelphia? They also examine Brandon Aiyuk vs. Deebo Samuel, the Texans’ targets delineation with Stefon Diggs and whether C.J. Stroud is a sophomore fade. They also assess Josh Jacobs with the Packers, Rachaad White’s 2023 repeat odds, and why some managers are still promoting Najee Harris. #NFL #RotoworldFootballShow

Chapters:
(00:00) – Introduction
(02:00) – Impact of the 2024 Schedule Release on Best Ball Draft Strategy + Reaction to Lions and Dolphins’ slate
(14:15) – Players We’re Avoiding, Pt. 1: Saquon Barkley, Brandon Aiyuk, Stefon Diggs, and C.J. Stroud
(46:00) – Players We’re Avoiding, Pt 2: Josh Jacobs, Rachaad White, Alvin Kamara, and Najee Harris

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Players we’re not drafting in 2024: Barkley, Aiyuk and more | Rotoworld Football Show (FULL SHOW)
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hello everybody Welcome to the road roll football show I am Patrick Dy on Thursday May 16th joined by Denny Carter Kyle Doric and the most special of guests Mr Davis madic you may know him from Sports grid from the tap cast from the swo cast from the carine cast any cast whatsoever uh you know him for he’s out there with opinions and you know recently so I’m drawn you know to Fantasy Football negativity and Davis recently um tweeted a list of players he would not touch their current ADP he also had a list of players that he would take at their current ADP I kind of ignored that though you you’ve been a hater on as of late on the show because we could talk about prospects and like our takes have no ability to be verified until a few months really a few years from now and that’s really let your your hater flag fly just like bu busto gig mega super bu it’s been kind of fun to be honest to have you a little bit of that hater that’s fun but yeah Davis has got a list we’re going to talk about it we’re also going to talk about the schedule but we would be remiss if we didn’t ask you how you doing Davis how you doing uh you know look it’s it’s May 16th uh the sun is shining I could be out working on my golf game um but I’m not because I got a draft a thousand best ball teams before the season starts in September so I am I’m here in the take dungeon I’ve got I’ve got my phone here I’ve got uh you know I’ve got a draft going here like we are just I am locked in making sure that I’m correlating you know Jaden Daniels with Rond Del Moore for the week 17 Commander Falcons game you 17 week 17 is old news didn’t you hear the EV is is 0.07% higher to get week 16s 16 teams in advance because the payout structure in the week 17 is flat I was hoping we’d get here because I feel as if we are letting the Nerds go too far with the week 16 stuff because at the end of the day no one cares about the 17th Place finisher in the Chihuahua right it it it’s really all about the the million dollars or more and that is what I’m I’m interested in1 million US dollars or more I’ll take 17th Place whatever that yeah if I don’t get first in the great Daye there’s really no point in doing it see Pat just said that as a joke but they do actually have a tournament called The Experience so reality has outpa parity at this point yes so Davis hit on an interesting point the schedule release you know it’s fun for some people the team you they bring out Tim Robinson they make a funny video but for best ball drafters it’s a moment of existential crisis because then they actually know the week 16 and 17 schedule and then that’s when like the drafting season actually begins and so the other day I saw someone ran into Justin herig IG at the grocery store and he was just drafting at the grocery store I mean are you saying that’s you Davis I get the feeling thousand teams isn’t really a bit oh god oh it’s it’s not a bit but no I am a a a not her zigan in that level in the sense that I really segment these things out where it’s like if I’m GNA go golf I am G to go golf if I’m gonna go the grocery store I’m gonna go to the grocery store but that means that means that the drafting time it’s got to be very focused so I’m not I’m not uh you know I’m not drafting and and working I’m not dra it’s like I’m drafting like six teams at a time and I’m I’m locked in to be clear I would say you are working right now in a sense and you are drafting right now so I’m I’m actually not no no I’m I’m not I’m not I mean I’m probably on the clock in a slow draft somewhere I heard you got a draft on a screen somewhere that’s pretty huge that is huge actually that Davis is giving us the courtesy of not draf I apprciate not sure I I think the walking walking the dog and drafting meta is pretty strong that’s a pretty easy multi good walker correct yes my dog is I mean she’s like 10 so she’s slowing down a little bit so it’s it’s it’s honestly like so GTO and she gets it she knows like sometimes we got to wait it’s like sometimes we go to wait like if I have to Google the week 17 match up like she’ll just sit and be patient for a second while I figure out you know who the Lions play in week 17 so you mentioned week 17 there you go Denny did you mention Rand Del Robinson in there somewhere no that was Rond Mo you mentioned for the Washington correlation oh Rond Del Moore all right we can I mean I will all look if we want to do just an hour on Wale we can okay do yeah we mentioned the schedule we mentioned week 17 in the best ball obsession with correlating stacking what’s the what’s the the other one too I mean contrarian I can’t think of the right word combinatorial ownership combin I was like oh man these nerds just want to feel special I can’t stand it so the the schedule is out we do have takeaways one of my takeaways week one is pretty good so you guys care about beste ball I only care about revenge games like I went through this with Kevin Clark recently on a podcast I outlined my three favorite Shawn Payton Revenge games he has Nathaniel Hackett he has Russell Wilson he has the Saints I was gonna say do the Broncos and Saints play this year yeah they oh they do and week seven in uh in New Orleans where I posited to Kevin that’ll be the week Shawn Payton’s gonna win that Revenge game and he’s gonna really more than an act of Revenge I say it’ll be an act of Mercy because I predicted he’s gonna get Dennis Isen fired week seven and Dennis Isen will be gone so there’s a lot of good stuff check out Kyle you have an article on the schedule by the way correct tell the people about that real quick yeah uh as soon as we got the the Fantasy Playoff stuff this is I I it in a best ball sense but like same stuff applies to a smaller degree but same stuff applies in your season long leagues just breaking down the the best basically playoff runs 15 through 17 and then more so for baseball the best matchups for the final week 17 so use a lot of the like EPA data from last year tried to prognosticate forward a little bit too because some of that like Bears don’t really care what they did last year on offense we know they’re a different team type of stuff so uh hopefully that’s true hopefully it’s not hopefully there’s not challenge accepted from Mt ever flu but I believe you’re right there but Davis we kind of already hinted at it Kyle just hinted at it we were briefly talking before we came on air not a bit it seems like the schedule takeaway for baseball drafters is that it’s totally over for the Dolphins who I believe are playing at Cleveland in week 17 which we know we’ll have like a roing lake Eerie hurricane that weekend and apparently it’s totally totally over for the Lions to they have only three outdoor games but two of them happen to be during the best ball playoffs yeah I mean look the uh the Jared Goff uh Dome n Dome splits they’re they’re startling and you you could say uh I mean look Kyle is going to zoom out even further on the chart than I am and be like I don’t care I still want khif Raymond as my bring back to to Deo Samuel I and I will say to that bring backs is what I was think forgetting about earlier sry bring backs so to H to that what I would say is generally speaking I think it’s true if you can’t point to a reason why something is true so why would it be true that Jared gofood Outdoors he has the literal smallest hands of a starting quarterback in the NFL this is like it’s like actually true yeah it’s true he also quite literally never plays Outdoors very often like up until his point in Detroit like so much of his career was playing in California on the west coast I don’t like generally buy this I will say uh I 100% buy this for Tua this is not a good thing for I also 100% buy it for Tua I buy it at Jared GF I’m a little more like I don’t know maybe he can survive like maybe maybe more so so the offense can survive because like Jared go didn’t do anything versus the 49ers when they played last they also saw 65 combined points scored it was just it came mostly on the ground from both teams not just from the Lions bills like that should be a fun matchup a lot of points should be scored I’m not sold that the bills defense can survive just a mass Exodus of talent for cap purposes I’m sure it’ll be better because now it’s this younger players that’ll do exactly what now it’s just udfa seventh rounders these 22y old Zoomers running around yeah it doesn’t matter yeah I’ll just say this Kyle in Jared goff’s Lions career so 2021 2022 2023 23 Road games 25 home games 15.8 points in the road games 22.3 points in the home games so some would say Stark some some would say there’s at least you could point out there being a difference in those two numbers I don’t know if we’ve just entirely read out their schedule they get home home Buffalo then they get Road Chicago that like should be a fun Gameco you’re right was playing lock down defense last year it’s totally over man no no totally September it’s gonna be fine weatherwise no it’s December December man yeah this is the final three weeks is over then we really had a fully it’s we’re we’re Barack it’s jov moment for Denny he went through the whole cycle in about 1.6 seconds uh no I mean I agree it’s I think the the matchups if they were like neutral indoor games would be nuts because I think the bills the bills are going to score a bunch of points and I don’t trust their defense Bears defense improved over the second half of last year I don’t know if I buy a six game sample of them trading for one player and then becoming the 84 Bears I think they’re probably a middle of the- pack team I think they’re a very good offense and we know the 49ers a good offense I like when two good offenses play each other that typically leads a l it’s fine like the the line I’m not gonna like I moved um I moved uh St Brown down one spot behind bejon and Bree whereas I had him ahead of Bree I am just gonna keep taking jir Gibbs because I think the elite running back group is a tier of four players and it doesn’t make sense to start diversifying after that but leaport I wasn’t really that into before and now I’m I’m less into and uh I mean Jameson Williams like who knows I guess like they might just leave him off the team now you can’t play in week 16 and 17 what’s really the point what’s the point what’s the point Miami bad though like Miami is the one where like I watch two and I’m like yep I get when it gets below 40 he’s not good and when he has to go on the road and all all these factors uh like dude the Dolphins are so shook I keep harping on this but Joe Shad who is a good Dolphins reporter was like with not a bit was concerningly tweeting about them playing outd doors in November 3rd in Buffalo I’m like dude if it’s this over for Tua that you guys are worried about no nov third too you cannot pay this guy I mean this is what Tua did outdoors in October against Buffalo last year 25 of 35 for 282 yards one touchdown one interception four sacks like it was it was J in October for this man you know it’s it’s it’s not it’s not great for for the Miami Dolphins out there Dolphins playoff schedule based on last year’s defensive EPA is the second hardest it’s not extremely sticky but it is it’s not nothing either and it checks out that they end with Cleveland an extremely extremely Talent starting like Taylor heii by week 17 you know the Brown game plan is going to be let’s just get in and out of here as much as yeah and that’s right like the like part of part of my optimism for the lions with was that they play fun offenses like if they’re if they can figure out how to make J golf work when it’s cold or windy outside all systems go yeah maybe it doesn’t happen but as far as Miami goes that Cleveland game Cleveland has so far under DeShaun Watson to go to be a good offense then not only are they running into an absolute wood shipper of a defense on the road in Cleveland but I don’t have a ton of Faith the Browns ever pull through this like franchise destroying SL altering decision to trade for Watson I they’ve shown me almost nothing that says they can so week 17 seems very bad for them week 16 uh I believe home versus San Francisco I think that should be a the home game is against the 49ers like come on man at least there could be a shootout I guess but that that’s why I think it’s okay show uh then at Houston another one should be a fun game and the weather at least will be good but man that week 17 that is I mean the odds of the weather being nice on December 29th in Cleveland Ohio are just zero. there’s no point in pretending no I need to caution you guys on this because this was my whole bit last year was so last year was an El Nino year and my whole bit was they they paid this quarterback $260 million to play in an outdoor stadium next to a lake and then it ended up I believe being highest scoring game of week 17 the the Jets Browns game so I would FL at that point of course on totally sling and Joe you told me before the season they had Flo i’ be like all right yeah I would have been all in Elijah Moore all in yeah exctly so uh that’s enough schedule talk for now I think we’ll move on to ADP talk so we got a list of players Davis said he cannot take their current ADP big names like sequin Barkley Brandon auk Stefon Diggs Josh Jacobs Mr CJ St that’s going to really be a hard so I I got to do some slight revisionist on this year which is that no no not all of them but on Diggs and stoud and Nico and Dell I mean you want to talk about a game that could end up being like hair on fire that Houston Baltimore game in week 17 I mean that just given the given the what’s everything in the AFC that could be anything from the Texans have to win this game to be in playoff contention to it’s for the one seed like that could literally be the game for the one seed that the AFC is just crazy and you’ve got the reigning MBP and everyone’s fa fav younger quarterback so I will be drafting uh Texans Ravens guys where I wasn’t as jazzed about it before we’ll get to the Texans in a minute we will start with saquin Barkley who just throwing out schedule throwing out correlation any of that he his ADP right now on Underdog is 15.3 he’s the rb5 I mean just on its face this is totally aspirational to me it’s it’s Preposterous it’s absolutely Preposterous from a very sharp drafting group though an underdog I’m sure there are good arguments in favor for saquin Davis uh but I’m totally with you I might as well you might as well not even draft a team I feel like if you’re making saquon Barkley like your late first or early second round pick making him the fifth running back off the board I feel strongly about it why do you feel strongly about it well mostly what we need from running backs are touchdowns and receptions that kind of the driver of how you get fantasy points like saquin Barkley could rush for 1600 yards as an eagle and like literally not matter for your fantasy team at all like like like be like worse than like David Montgomery because it came with four rushing touchdowns and 37 receptions like he could get outscored in any given week by Jalil mlin getting Pierre Thomas work like Herz scores all the touchdowns and he never throws to the running back like we were just begging like DeAndre Swift would have a two for 17 game as a receiver and we’d be like oh things are looking up in the receiving backfield for the Eagles like it’s just it’s going to be good for them as a real team and I think it it might even be an example of the Nerds being wrong about running backs don’t matter like replacing Swift with Barkley but how how does this help our fantasy teams unless they stop doing the tush push which is just not going to happen well so first off I’m it’s interesting you made that point about it might be good like in real life cuz yeah I totally think I think the Eagles admitted they were tired of running backs by committee they were tired by they were tired of the most important snaps of the game like where’s Boston gotta get Boston on the field where is he like racing Boston Scott onto the field when like I don’t know dude maybe you’re number one running backs just be on the field for the most important plays so I think that was part of the saquin Barkley calculus calculus I think I’ve made this point to Denny though I don’t know Jason Kelce retiring and Jaylen Herz playing through the knee all last year I do Wonder if the tush push is being reassessed they might try to actually save some of the wear and tear from Jaylen Herz inside the 10 yard line yeah the definition of a theory but I don’t think it’s absurd on we should run the free touchdown play anymore top your guess guess the success rate of the tush push last two years I don’t need to guess I wait 100% I witnessed it it’s 98% they failed on it they failed on it once the free touchdown play was so good half the free touchdown play revolved around a Hall of Fame Center though like I don’t you really can’t overstate how important Jas Jaylen Herz is as strong as the four of us combined I don’t it’s it’s it’s not just it’s not just Kelsey like Jordan like Jaylen Herz we it’s very easy to criticize him because our memory we saw most recently of him is you know getting blown out at home by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers but he he is like a superum at that play Denny you haven’t spoken for a while where do you fall in this we’ve just been whenever we start to yell and Shout poor Denny uh don’t yell sorry Jason I mean come on Jason Kelsey can be replaced come on please let’s go Wow Let’s Go sure about that like an an undersiz Center like sure he’s like the strongest guy in America pound for pound a podcast host at Center come on I mean I mean they’re definitely gonna get someone else to dive at the knees of Defenders and let D Herz score in touchdown that’s it it’ll be fine oh man I I think you’re probably ultimately right or I think in their perfect world they would save that wear and tear from Jaylen Herz but it’s just too valuable the margins are too thin yeah it’s the margins are too thin it’s the same thing with the bills Josh Allen ain’t gonna run every third and fourth and he’s running at what date will we get the report that Josh is gonna run less this year we think of like July 17th it’ll be like yeah maybe maybe August 1 no no June during mandatory mini camp I was gonna totally new Josh totally new Josh June 18th he’s not running and the first third and four of the season rushes for 18 yards and takes a huge hit like right at the sideline he just doesn’t go out for some reason and just gets blown up right at the sideline that’ll be what happen to Josh Allen so anyone have a countert take by the way to sequan is anyone comfortable with sequan is the rb5 not on this not gonna score any touchdowns who who cares I I’m he’s not even close like he would have to drop to like the fourth round or fifth round for me to even be somewhat interested I think I agree with despite I I do think Davis is right that the Eagles are they’re done with the committee but I also think that Davis is right that it just doesn’t matter in fantasy that they’re done with the committee and not that saquin is gonna be like a ruinous pick if like as long as he stays healthy but he’s not gonna be winning Le remember taking Zeke in the first round where it’s like oh he finishes running back nine how can that be bad but it it never it just you know it just ultimately didn’t matter yeah you need people who win weeks sequan does not profile as a week winner even in like we’re talking about crazy basball just in standard redraft he does not profile as a weak winner sayquon yeah I mean if he had signed as a free agent with the Packers like instead of Josh Jacobs yeah then I’d be like oh my God I’ll take him in at sixth overall or whatever but he just didn’t go to the right spot so Davis you have chosen sides in the the Debo Samuel Brandon iuk debate you said you’re in on Debo as the wide receiver 14 right right around the end of the second round but you were very much out on Brandon iuk mid second round wide receiver 11 why have you taken up a dvo and not Brandon iuk so one I like Adams more than iuk and Adams goes after so it’s pretty easy to just take the guy who like Adams like wasn’t even good last year and was still good like like he just like straight up was like you kind of would forget he was on your team and he ends up with like 170 targets and he didn’t I think he only scored five touchdowns last year so he wasn’t at like super impactful so now they’re not important all of a sudden H yeah so now they’re not important all of a sudden and then you know I mean it’s just like I keep waiting for evidence that auka is better than Debo and then it it just never seems to happen like like if you’re looking for a guy who who will score 37 points in a game I mean it’s deot like I I I think I looked this up the other day iuk is at zero games in his career with more than 28 PPR points which is like I mean obviously it’s a very high bar uh but Debo has four 30 or more point games in his career it’s just like just pretty evident if you’re trying to win $1.5 million who the better player is but the same logic again applies to redraft you need to win weeks like you need guys have matchup flipping ability and yeah I mean Denny how do you feel so say iuk and Deo both still end up on the team in week one iuk too like he’s the CL like he has to do all of his production on seven to eight targets per game like he’s never spiking to eight to 10 like always has to be on seven to eight targets per game how do you feel yeah I mean the only way he’s doing that is if KD or Debo misses time and Happ maybe he can get right I mean and and you know hey you know we have some soft tissue is issues with these two guys so maybe maybe he could get there but I mean the way he’s being drafted is a little bit a little bit crazy I think I well especially because they have no offense to jwan Jennings who actually is better oh every time I look up a stats like was actually kind of good but the 49ers do have like a legit number three receiver this year and Ricky peaw at least we think they do like a kind of guy who could be like the ultimate chain mover and like basically further erods any like Target upside Brandon auk’s gonna have like I just feel like having having like a Target earning number three receiver yeah I think I don’t think piell’s good at all but I do think that Shanahan will will force the issue and be like you know he’s the centerpiece of our offense and you know like like you know you know I’m I’m speaking in exaggerations but but I I do think that he’s gonna force peaw on the field a lot and you know draw up some plays for him and that’s not good for auk who like you said I mean we’re talking about seven to eight targets and that so Debo wins weeks that’s it’s important every is more important in baseball though the Debo it’s important in it’s important in everything though like and it’s not to say that auk is a bad pick because I don’t think that’s true yeah because David let say Debo we almost have to bake in that he will miss time and so like if you’re more conservative draft League do you have to reassess it’s kind of where I was going so I think that’s kind of fine because how many like you can just get like 13 points off the waiver wire in like most 12 team like 12 Team league 18-man rosters like you can pick up oh Josh DS or whatever you know ad Mitchell is out we’re we’re gonna pick up I’m gonna pick up Wale I’m gonna pick up Darius slate just like you can kind of just work your way around that but you’re not gonna find guys who can get 35 in a game that makes a lot of sense to me I mean any anyone here taking iuk over Deo KB stomped him in every Advanced metric last year two years younger he’s clearly the one they value more because Debo is the one for was on the trade block he had more 100 yard games last year he didn’t have one 30 point game last year it was like eight PPR full PPR 8122 like Davis exposed I do I do agree it’s frustrating that uh auk like not the most Spike weeks per Talent like I think he is more talented than his counting stats have shown he only gets the ball like 105 times a a season so there’s like really only we got to get more targets for this guy command like he’s just’ been screaming out for them and Kyle Shanny just cannot do it will not do it mostly because of CMC I feel like even more than Debo that’s what’s really it’s it’s totally that it’s that the offense is so CMC Centric that like you just got to make your hay I mean George K had a game with three targets and three touchdowns last year like if just if you want to be a 49er a fantasy relevant player you got to score two touchdowns on seven interactions you know yeah I think it’s tough to say though that like one like the spike weeks and the touchdowns which are are pretty tied together like Debo has such a massive Edge because it feels like the most random aspect of what these guys do is the clumps in which their fantasy points are scored the more stable thing is the advanced numbers even just the raw counting stats Debo had like 800 yards last year iuk had nearly 1,400 he was way better in all the advanced metrics like I I there is probably something going on that leads to not quite as many Spike weeks per yard per Talent the big play machine doesn’t bur man 700 yard games last year it still goes Burr Debo gets the the fake touchdown plays though like Debo gets the the Kyle Shanahan can I swear is that I think so yeah we’ll edit it yeah not what what you Debo gets the totally fake entirely created by Shanahan 17 yard rushing touchdowns that are just like they’re in no way are they real football plays they they shouldn’t count um but they but they do you know you get the fantasy points for them even though it’s completely fake we do we you’re allowed to say the f- word that’s fake we are informed you cannot say the act like like Ray Ray McLoud could score the Debo rushing touchdowns but they just give them to I I I absolutely love when people go it’s not real football man like Kyle y oh wow yeah four touchdowns Kyle not real it’s not real let me know let me know what you’re gonna do with the coin toss in overtime man all right a real football decision let me know what you’re GNA do there right as a as a flag football coach I admire Kyle Shanahan’s play this I try to incor into the way I operate Shanahan would wreck the Maryland 10 to 12 year old flag football league I mean he is right now in the form of Denny Carter you guys are undefeated or something like that I don’t know what no we’re two and two we just lost to the 49ers who had a kid who was 6 fo2 so yikes down horrific so uh we’ll be right back after the the second leg of the Triple Crown will be run on Saturday watch the prus stakes at Pimco Racecourse the action begins at 4:30 pm Eastern on NBC and peacock uh talk about down horrendous MTH out of the race and Adam W is our producer he he said put all your money on M and I did and now I broke horsey blinked horsey not a gamer horsey blinked he choked no no one else would have go I I don’t know what else say about yeah uh moth down horrific we are moving on though we are not uh we’re doing just fine even though it’s negativity today Davis ston Diggs ADP 26 right now he’s the wide receiver 17 this is another one that seems like pretty easy to be out on but as evidenced by his ADP many many people are not out on him are you I oped by this CJ like like one CJ Stroud scored like 18.5 fantasy points per game last year so we might we might be going a little too heavy on the C I mean I don’t want to be out on CJ stoud but we might the BR the he’s pretty far up there man and I just it’s it’s it’s also like a tried and true formula for failure I feel like it’s chasing like the hot finish for a rookie quarterback he’s got nowhere to go but up you see what he did against the Joe Flo and uh yeah I didn’t hear much of the these Vibes when we talked about Jordan love briefly I’d love to hear ret I actually am all in on truthing I’m I’m I’m also all in on guy ran unsustainably hot he ran unsustainably hot man oh he’s so good guys you you don’t know you just keep back footing touchdown throws your entire you got to get off that take I’m begging you to get off that take you know been good I’ve been on that he’s good too who which one that that love is is going to regress he’s he’s legit he’s like yeah he’s just too good he’s I do agree I’ve made this point many times last year I do think love ultimately won’t really regress much cuz he just played quarterback differently and he actually attempts risky watch CJ strad are you kidding me he’s better than St can I make a point about about fake football cheating which is that love has a cheating OC he’s got he’s got a guy from the shanan tree who’s a cheater whereas it seemed guy from shry what’s going Houston shry guy Houston the T on St last year slowick was like all right it’s second eight he ter up the gut every they it was awful for the first like two months of the season they it was awful in the most must win like week 17 remember he attempted like 21 if you only look at the bad weeks I bet it does look bad over the second half of the season they they started to put the foot on the gas a little bit they had a POS when they took it off yes I I concede that if you only look at bad data points the data points look bad all right yeah you can finish your point I see the middle of summer has brought the worst than all it’s that Simpsons quote that I broke out before the cosing old everything looks bad if you remember it I love you say that once a month and I love it okay I do have a question though what if the Texans had lost that playoff game the first one what do you what do you think do you think it’s totally recontextualized if they don’t just completely go nuclear and that I I feel like it is would have been a little recontextualized he did think about how a playoff blowout might recontextualize things let me point you to one Jordan love well no Jordan love was doing it Jordan love was doing it for the entire back half it’s like I was ready for it to be J for Jordan love after like a month I was like oh it’s totally jover and then we said it was J we did yeah and then he was Barack he was Barack in a big way he was all the way barck but stad went nuclear a lot down the stretch too but there were still those inexplicable games especially the Panthers game that was still more like middle yeah go back if you want to if you want to have a good time go back and remember the lone game that the Panthers won and then remember who had because it’s the funniest possible answer every time you think about it who did the Panthers beat yeah it it’s insane I so I agree with the the PFF Bobby truthing but point we have made on the show they do seem ready to change the offense they make the aggressive move for Steph Diggs they make the aggressive move for like the the running back who’s not efficient running anymore but still efficient catching the ball and Joe Mixon it does seem like they’re ready to spread it out a lot more and go all in on CJ R’s arm but even if they do do that I don’t Steph Diggs man in the what round is it the early third it’s just like what what is the true upside there when you’ve already got like the established Alpha Nico Collins the really promising young player who is coming off a very concerning injury in tank Dell the the upside would be that the tank Dell thing was totally a creation of CJ Stroud being incredible and he goes back to being like a 4.5 Target per game guy and Diggs gets 8.7 targets per game and Nico Collins is basically the mvs of the offense but like good at it and like able to generate stats and it’s totally possible I mean obviously when you’re fading a guy who’s been as good as Diggs has been it’s worrisome but it’s like and like dton Schultz is gonna get some targets it’s a it’s a Shanahan well it’s a Shanahan style offense so you can like the running backs are going to get at least 12 to 15% of the targets just the running backs are going to get a lot more targets than they did last year in that’s why that’s the only reason you get Joe Mixon at this point they want a rim finisher which he does well I mean top about a guy who catches third and four passes like that’s what yes I mean and so it’s like how many passes is Stout is gonna throw 650 passes like you know and this is like you get into Old Tes exposed territory pretty quickly but like we have been there for about five that would never happen to you Davis Stefan Stefan Diggs was outgained in the back half of the Season by khil Shakir on like 900 more targets than Shakir had he had he had after week six he had zero 100 yard games like it it went it it was bad I’m I’m I’m defending Stroud a lot uh because I think he’s really good I’m not really gonna show up to bat for Stefan Diggs given how poorly his tenure ended in Buffalo and when we have two players who were much much younger and Elite last year better than Stefan Diggs was in tank Dell and Nico Collins like this is especially a spot where where I just like give me the guys who are youngest and not priced up despite coming off of a bad year and to me that’s like tankel almost as a as a priority given that I think shroud is the truth and I think the difference between this team and the Packers as well Packers are very cheap you can get Davon Wix who could be like the third receiver this team’s tank Dell so so late that’s kind of the big difference where I you he’s the best pick on the board right like it’s like the ultimate like if you want to convince people on the internet you know ball like dude Davi and Wicks that guy can play like you got to say something like that and people be like oh you no ball dude Kyle you don’t think tank Dell’s a little priced up ADP of 42 I so Patrick crane was texting me like you should maybe cool it on the tank Dell slander which he is correct about because I was all in on tank Dell last year I’m just so concerned when this happens with players where the pre-draft knock on tankel was that he was too small and could get hurt easily in the NFL when he does suffer like that really catastrophic like lower body Orthopedic injury I think that will spook the Texans like a lot more than maybe fantasy managers are willing to admit because this when your concern comes to fruition as a rookie I just I feel like they’ll have a hard time like unremember that b and almost certainly had to be part of the calculus for going getting step on Diggs where tank is such a fun playmaker like he’s a legit game breaker but I I wonder if they’re gonna make him more of like a package player and try to like R his usage I think tank has probably the lowest floor because I think he could just straight up not play uh you know 30% of the snaps basically anytime they move out of three three receiver Personnel but like you said the reasons for drafting him he’s young he’s super explosive can change the outcome of a game in one play and he’s playing with a young super explosive quarterback on an offense that designed plays really well for that quarterback and for tank Dell yeah like I think he’s probably got the lowest floor I wouldn’t pencil him in into playing nearly as many snaps running as many routes as the other two but when he’s the cheapest of the bunch and I think they’re almost like completely evenly distributed in terms of talent like at this point in Dick’s career I still think he’s pretty good like n Collins isn’t good but yeah anyways uh he really good last year he was so good so annoying how much his yards per route run Pop I know we always can throw that one back at you but if you think he’s not maybe not that good tank could just be this team’s best receiver I think it’s perfectly reasonable to say like we look back at the end of the year oh tank was just the truth they couldn’t take him off the field he was that good and he’s going the cheapest of the three I’m gonna I’m going to bet on that given the price versus his teammates also stad loves tank Dell like you know he wanted he wanted to draft him like he talks about him constantly almost a weird amount like I I I I think that that that’s that’s what originally you know was the appeal for tank Dell back before he went main stream when he was when he was a hipster pick was like oh hey like St really likes this guy so we have to remember that I also think that with Diggs there’s a there’s a potential and outcome for just complete catastrophe like a like a like a bottom falling out situ it could be one of those like Patriots type things I can’t remember who was I mean Bill bich released a few like Star receivers mid I think Randy Moss was released mid season yes right I mean I I could see like if if Diggs went to a team with like very little Target competition like no Elite receivers I feel much better about him because it would finally be the situation he wants which is you know who cares about winning I’m going to get 15 targets a game okay that and that that’s what that’s what def wants were both Antonio Brown and Josh Gordon released mid-season by like the Patriots I think ooo might have been too but continue Denny but but in Houston Houston he has you know not one but two really good receivers ahead of him and I don’t think that he’s going to take kindly to games where he’s being out targeted you know 10 targets for Nico Collins 11 targets for for tank Dell and he’s on the sideline hands on hip saying well I’m not going in I’m not I’m not playing this is not what I signed up for again again because I mean look he’s proven like he’s shown like he doesn’t care about the team okay and and so they so so the Texans taking him in I I don’t know what they’re thinking honestly I I feel like I feel like this is going to backfire big time I think they’re thinking that CJ strad is like a special personality and I think they think that CJ can manage it which seems but like is a 31y old like Diggs has played in a lot of big games Minnesota Miracle like is he going to be like this 23-year-old kid I can’t wait to let CJ stad tell me where to line up before the snap right it was very inter the moment the moment the Texans traded first fond digs they were like up we’re just gonna give you free agency in a year I thought that was very curious when they had him there you go that’s another yes thank you Kyle I forgot to mention that I think that it’s everything points to the Texans being like like okay like we know this guy’s a loose cannon maybe he’s not going to be long for the team yeah it’s not outside the realm of possibility that he’s like cut or traded in October not the most likely outcome but yeah I I did have that sticking in my mind like a Patriots like like like what’s the word that they used uh for like when you’re a troublemaking receiver I forget divaa Diva no what’s the what are they Mercurial Mercurial Mercurial yeah if he’s Mercurial that he might just they might just cut him not the most likely outcome but it could so but we we segue this into CJ strad so did you say you’re back in on strad since being out on him two days ago I mean I’m only I’m I’m literally only going to do this when drafts fall in such a way that the the prices on Diggs Nico uh and and tank are palatable but like I’m never going to go into a draft being like oh this one just totally makes sense as a CJ St thing the other thing that makes stoud this is very hard to do in beste ball specifically is when the quarterback and all his weapons are expensive and there’s no fallback option your your fallback option like let’s say you’re on the clock at picked 72 and and stout is still there you know 10 spots after 80 per well what’s your plan what are you gonna you gonna you gonna do you’re gonna go into the final with CJ Stroud and Dalton Schultz like that’s how you’re gonna win like probably not like you you you probably you probably lose anyway to the CJ stra Diggs team even if that is what you need in week 17 so I hate that it used to be the problem with Mahomes you know reek and and Kelsey were so expensive it used well now it’s the opposite now you take Mahomes and you just have like a menu of guys that you can take that you’re like sure whatever I I hope Rashi rice um is not in federal prison by the time the season starts you know um same but so it’s just like it’s like an expensive quarterback who doesn’t run who you’re not picking any value up because none of his weapons are cheap so it’s just like what are you really hoping for the lasty I can remember being like this where I was really not in on it was Joe burrow and it just like did did not kill me to not take Joe burrow at quarterback six or whatever any of these years he he would have to I mean he’d have to do kind of the Baseline I think of for like a running cour like a non-running quarterback to help you with running is like 404 like what Aaron Rogers used to do and I don’t even really know if if stoud can do that I don’t think he just won’t he won’t need to also like part of the problem he just doesn’t he could if he had like a terrible line and bad receivers and they were like play Hero ball he’s he’s athletic enough to do it he’s athletic enough to do it but he just it’s not stylistic for him and it’s not needed right now at the way team set up mention sorry real quick St at I see him at qb5 you said he’s qb6 right now Davis an underdog it I mean it dep it depends on where you’re doing it some he’s QB five right now an underdog okay so head of mom somewhere W with with yeah with no rushing uh I would take Richardson I mean I mean because of his lack of rushing I would take Richardson over him Jordan love over him Dak Prescott Kyler Murray Brock you take Jordan love over stoud sure about that yeah Jordan Jordan love you want to talk about a guy who can run when he wants to I don’t know if he will but he can I don’t think he’s going to I take Caleb Williams can tell if Denny’s doing a bit or not it sounds kind of like a bit almost no no it’s not a big I mean the Caleb Williams situation is very analogous to the CJ strad situation he’s going to run a lot more than than stra I don’t know oh yes yeah yeah he is likes to score TDS with his legs I will say that he likes to score would well so let’s say they both say redraft not fan not of the best ball stuff uh straight up do you want CJ strout or Joe burrow it seems like it’s probably still CJ strout it’s still CJ but like neither part neither of them are even close to my core strategies like I I bet I end up combined those two guys on less than 5% of my teams probably like I’m not saying like the the week 17 game specifically Houston Baltimore made me more interested but I’m not it didn’t make me enough to like change my strategy Denny who’s scoring more fantasy points this year Jaden Daniels or CJ strad oh Jaden Daniels Daniels not not according to ADP he ain’t I mean yeah like this I mean we know how this rushing thing goes like Jaden Daniels could be really bad and also really great for Fantasy I still keep taking man if if Jaden Daniels is thrown or running as much as you think he’s going to I just think the defense is gonna love that and they’re gonna absolutely love like blowing him up well yeah it’s not nearly every time Jan Daniels gets tackled it looks like a skiing accident it’s really unpleasant gez we we’ve been on a Tanger that it looks like like jackass stunts I mean have you seen you really need to let a wheelbarrow come down the hill and hit him like was that really necessary I mean Hayden Winks had that video of first game of the season it’s first and 10 in the first corner and he just lines up QB power and just runs right at the linebacker and allows himself to be pile drived first game of this he’s just like whatever first game of the season let’s do it no reason just trying to just trying to get his wits about him and I I I I really I’m gonna take this take to the grave and also to the poor house but like if Jaden Daniels is running as much as fantasy managers need him to I think the defense is like oh hell yeah and that it’s the thing about Daniels though is he much like Richardson the why why we can feel more optimistic because he’s a really good deep thrower and that was the thing with Richardson was like well it’s hard to just be like all right eight men in the box like do your worst because he can throw really accurate deep balls and mclen and I mean it’s like the only thing mclen can do is he’s really good down the field so you you can see how that would not work out for the defenses I guess we’ll put a we’ll put a pen in the Texans talk and we will be right back after this it will be a championship Sunday to remember Manchester City eyes an unprecedented fourth consecutive title and Arsenal aims to finish a top the table for the first time in 20 years find out who has crowned this weekend on the networks of NBC Universal and peacock I Davis I can’t deal if man city they’re gonna do it I just can’t deal with it man I’m so over this I mean my team is the the last team to beat them they tried they did their job Aston Villa beat Manchester City in December Pat it’s May it’s May dude it’s May it’s May 16th and they haven’t lost since December you talking about cheating you talking about the fake uh Kyle Shan and touchdown the fake Man City Fake Man City book how it how is it fake because the the books have never been more cooked Denny they they they have Denny this team that’s owned by uh by you know the Saudi sovereign it’s not the Saudis it’s I think it’s it’s Qatar it’s either Qatar or the UAE sorry we one of these UAE I think actually uh they have 115 um charges against them of financial mismanagement but because not not the league the actual nation state of Britain is so indebted to this private wealth fund that they can’t really be persecuted yeah yeah no it’s the the book so they’ve been like caught dead to rights by both the Premier League and and the Champions League UEFA and they’re just like well what if we’re not caught and they go to court and they go to court and literally like the Prime Minister has to get involved and be like wait wait wait wait wait actually let them have their football let them have the soccer is it a classic let’s see them wriggle out of this one and then they immediately wle out of this one immediately wriggle out yes brexit has really has really done good things for that country I people are saying this more and more all the time more and more that’s uh yikes uh talk speaking of uh jit Josh Jacobs uh many are calling Josh Jacobs gone from the Green Bay Packers or excuse me gone from the Las Vegas Raiders and apparently gone from Davis Maddox draft board he wants nothing to do with him is the I mean yeah what what are we hoping for here what what it’s well didn’t earlier you say if so and so went to the Packers squated about saquin on the Packers not what’s the difference between Jacobs and saquin well saquin can create explosive plays Jacobs Jacobs doesn’t offer you any of that the thing that Jacobs off it’s very mixy in the sense of he can totally show up and handle 85% of your touches um and then Matt laflor upon drafting Marshon Lloyd immediately says you know philosophically I’m pretty committed to using two running backs if not more so it just doesn’t feel like he’s gonna get the 22 touches per game necessary to sustain his fantasy value um I I’m again much like Diggs I can see how I’m wrong on this this one which is oh marshan Lloyd stinks AJ Dylan stinks Emanuel Wilson stinks AJ Dylan stink for years though and they kept giving the ball I totally agree Matt laflor seems just totally obsessed with the two back approach like nothing will shake his faith in the two nothing will shake it including even the number two being abjectly terrible like he just doesn’t care and I think Martian Lloyd’s probably like pretty well suited to being a running back to in the NFL like he basic I mean what’s the difference between playing at USC with Caleb Williams and playing for the Packers honestly like like really and Marshon lyd was really good in that role you know in in college so I thinkers do occasionally block is one difference they do and they their defense does know how to tackle I mean you want to watch it go back and watch a us like go back and just watch a random USC game from like November and you’re like wait people were downgrading Caleb because this was his def it’s what it’s absurd it’s crazy how bad their defense was and I don’t even watch defense lore of this show of us saying every Everything Dalton Kade ever did was just one game where he annihilated USC he killed them well Davis you’re an Oklahoma Sooners fan is is Lincoln Riley just the most glorified QBs coach or is he just is he getting a raw deal is he actually a good coach or not I mean okay what do you mean by good coach like can Lincoln Riley can Lincoln Riley just like take any five-star quarterback High School recruit in the world and get him to be a first round pick I mean I think the evidence definitely suggests yes is he a great leader of men can he hire a good defensive coordinator like no probably not well he’s a really B is this coaches good is this coach good when when that answer is well what do you mean good no no is the answer well here I’m a Sooners fan and I like I would have preferred having the number one overall pick in the draft every year for a decade compared to what we have now which is like an overachieving gritty team that like no one really cares like you know like this current erab Sooners football there’s just no there’s no point for me we’re we’re not relevant anymore and it was nice having Kyler and Baker and Caleb and Jaylen her like that was awesome that like and outside of the championship they won when I was 10 those are like some of my best memories rooting for them honestly the buck guys are kind of the same way I’m like oh we have 45 first round receivers and we don’t we lose first round playoffs we get beat by Michigan like we’ve been relevant in that sense but like I need a Natty here someday with the amount of Talent we’ve had I cannot believe we really Haven been that close since just before I went to college yeah like Ryan day is a is totally fake right like Ryan day I know I know his hair dye is got look at the color of his beard by the way Lincoln Riley the leader Lincoln Riley almost starts tearing up like the second a reporter enters the room I know probably not a great sign why is he always so upset about it I no he’s really scared of reporters are we really scared of taking Rashad White Davis in the fifth round 53.8 ADP rb14 uh again talk about scams uh Rashad white last year here’s the deal uh like so I put this tweet out and obviously like people like Rashad white so like JJ sends me a message and he’s like most of that list is good but like what’s the deal with Rashad white so Dave Canales if you go back and look at all the times he’s called plays he like really clearly prefers to not have to rotate guys in and out he he really likes to have one guy one of the reasons to be in on Jonathan Brooks I think and also if you look at that Buccaneers depth chart you want to talk about despair dude I mean like they’re trying out like Chase Edmonds on like his ninth team you know like it just you know sea Tucker an undrafted free agent at a Syracuse with no knees like literally like didn’t was not able to participate at the combine because he was so injured really bad and I mean I’m not saying Bucky Irving is like this great Prospect but he’s probably better than anyone else who was on the team last year you know other than Patrick l who for whatever reason they didn’t Elevate him from the prac squad I think they probably would have been well served by that but no one thinks Rashad even people who were super bullish on drafting Rashad white at running back 14 think he’s like a special talent the he’s not actually good I’m not saying he’s good I’m not saying he’s good he’s just so it’s like guys who who are not particularly efficient if there’s volume concerns at all those are the guys who kill you those are the guys who end up giving you like 11 points week after week and it’s like that is to to be shooting for a ceiling of like 16.4 fantasy points per game is just not what I want to be doing with like my fourth pick well Li I was on the PFF metrics and I was like where is Rashad white I know he didn’t do well scroll you gota keep going scroll keep going keep going oh there he is right next to Ezekiel Elliot smack dab next to each other he was Dreadful in the PFF stuff he was Dreadful in the nextg stuff two years ago he was Dreadful in the nextg stuff I think it’s pretty likely that he condenses the work I like Bucky Irving he did not test like an NFL caliber athlete and after that like Davis said nothing there’s just not a live body on that roster he probably condenses the work again and is a you know you look back at the end of the season he’s the rb7 like we talked about Zeke a few years ago and it’s a small win I think there’s a pretty good chance he’s a small win I don’t think he’s an NFL caliber Runner to the point that he can be a big win where he can go out and be like oh he was the guy you needed to have he hasn’t shown that Talent as a runner he he’s shown the opposite of that Talent as a runner and he’s been just good as a pass catcher he’s Ling the world on fire as a pass catcher that was his calling card coming out of college he was truly one of the better pass catching prospects we’ve seen in a while I don’t know if he’s that guy he turned out to be just pretty good not great so he’s got 50 balls back toback years he was more efficient as a pass catcher last year than he was as a rookie I’ll say yeah he wasn’t incredibly efficient last year though he’s good incredibly inefficient though like he was he’s fine but like do we want to be drafting guys who were like yeah he was good he wasn’t great on this one aspect he’s pretty bad on the other one as high as we have to take Rashad white no I he looks like a clear League losing pick let’s be real yeah I think Dave Canalis I think he was an invention of Dave Canales a product of Canalis being like we’re not fine we’re just gonna settle on white he’s going to run all the pass routes he’s going to get all the the high value touches it is what it is he hasn’t been good in fact if you look at next gen stats Rashad white over the past two years is basically my sanders as he got 336 touches last year like come on bro it’s not happen Taylor workload he’s not getting over 275 this year even if he does condense all the work ironically Zeke was pretty efficient as a pass catcher last year too like he looks a lot like Zeke does but today not like our IDE of Zeke all back in the day he’s actually stunningly similar to what Zeke offers the team today can maybe hit the hole and gained the two yards nothing more that are blocked I’m a little skeptical white can even do that but he’s not breaking long runs he’s not being you know Christian mcaffry Austin Eckler level pass catcher he’s probably the next tier of guys like K use Che pass catcher it’s just he just gets a lot of them yeah yeah like why why if we think he’s really indistinguishable talent-wise from Zeke do I not get to pay Zeke prices very very good point I can’t remember if Liam Cohen is a committee guy or not Kentucky always has like five different running backs it seems like not Ray Davis Ray Davis was oldest running back in the world and also 300 touches in college all right well never mind that’s a good sign actually was uh was Chris Rodriguez the Commander’s backup was he Kentucky or Kansas I’m pretty sure he was Kentucky he was Kentucky might have that was the year Liam Cohen was with the Rams yeah Cohen bounced between Kentucky and Rams a bunch of times because I don’t think he liked McVey or whatever Liam Cohen really really likes the blueg grass State really the one guy ever who went to LA and then came back to no offense to Kentucky I live in Missouri I understand Kentucky come on man Davis knows but come on man all right can we get to the PPR scam of all time we can the final player who is the PPR scam of all time Davis Alvin Kamar has exists on nothing but PPR scamming like if you remove if you remove if you take Alvin Kamar from leading the team in targets to just like a 133% Target share you’re talking about Zeke level production yes like it it’s it’s and like you know look God bless him but Shawn pyton is not there anymore like Derek Carr is his shoulder is just hanging out of its sock it’s just like come on man dude what are we what are we doing Alvin Kamar running back 17 I think I take would take 10 running backs that go after him ahead of him Davis I I actually think that Derek Carr and an injured old Derek Carr is good in in this offense I think it’s good for Kamar I I think this can this can work out I really do and look at Kamar is like per all the metrics like a bottom five rusher in the league okay yeah like really really bad or the eye test too and I don’t care at all I don’t care at all he’s he runs all the routes he gets those short reception he doesn’t do much with the receptions anymore but who cares at RB 17 I feel like I feel like I mean I’m not like targeting him in best ball but I wouldn’t I don’t mind taking him in that RB 17 rb19 range all right let me let me let me offer a counterfactual which is that Kendry Miller who they drafted in the third round had a high ankle sprain in training camp so basically rookie running back you miss training camp like J like there’s just nothing there’s nothing for you there he’s not hurt now he’ll be there Miller will be there for all the stuff this year we’re like if if if kamaro like I’m saying they didn’t add anybody Davis they didn’t add anybody they didn’t add anybody and Kendra so like if you if you remove 20 targets from your projection for Alvin kamaro where does he go that’s tough it’s tough it’s tough It’s really tough you’re talking about outside rb24 you’re talking about get ready to learn commanders in 2025 buddy oh oh for sure he’s gonna sign a five-year contract with command laughing very hard at my own joke but after they move on from Eckler it’s uh it’s it’s Kamar and then after that Rashad White’s contract will be out no this is this all checks out this is happening we got to record this producer Adam clip this and and I was G say you know we’re recording right we’re not just hanging out reminder for three years from now we need it I said that was the final player it’s actually one more player quickly Davis because you’re making a negative Naji Harris case and everyone’s like yeah no no duh like cool Davis but you’re making the negative there are people actually making the positive case I’ve run into this a very lot of smart people making a positive Naji case on Twitter the the argument now is the same argument you’d make for like Zeke which is like I don’t sometimes you just need 12 points and now that he’s running back 24 now that he’s running back 24 like Jacob Sanderson tweeted at me he got he got Jacob extremely smart and yes he’s very in on Naji he he got him he’s tweeted me he got him at like pick 102 in one of these drafts and I’m like honestly I can I can intellectually grant that that’s probably fine but I’m still not gonna take him like I could like I’ll just I’ll take Trey Benson I don’t care like I just don’t want to so like imagine you do actually get a team through to the finals and you’re scroll you’re so excited you’re like oh my God like I can have I can maybe win one of these tournaments and you look at your roster and you’re like oh I have nji Harris on this team I have to root for nji Harris for the biggest sweat of my life like you don’t want to do that no it’s never been more over if no but it is the same argument pretty much year over year which is like he gets he does get a little cheaper every year he gets a little he doesn’t even get the ball anymore like I know I know and they will be run heavy gosh darn I keep forgetting it’s art man he’s gonna he’s gonna get away with it Naji he’s he’s motivated too he’s gonna show up Naji Harris has lost 20 pounds wish a reporter had reported this I would that would be worse unironically Naji showing up lighter you let like like no that’s Jaylen Warren’s job you need to be like 240 pounds you need to be you need to yes yes he needs to be as a bowling ball that’s actually an interesting point it’s an interesting I wish we could just keep going forever but we have to stop really really good stuff Dave I’m very taking an hour I didn’t even tell you it was gonna be an hour you never asked so I didn’t tell you I assume like I I’ll get I’ll get someone on the line and be like dude we’re we’re talking about you know New York Giants slot snaps for two hours so an hour is like nothing I had one thing on on na that I forgot to mention uh sad to report that he was top 10 in uh rush yards overex expected per Rush yeah it doesn’t matter who cares so he he gained he gained over 20 yards on a rush for the first time in his career doesn’t that feel like a fake number though I feel like I feel like The rushian Yards overexp expected stuff can be fake because it feels like it’s kind of predicated on blockers and and locations of Defenders you know you could have 165 yard rush That was supposed to be a one yard rush too kind of yeah I mean yeah that is definitely how OV expected Works in theory in theory rush yards ovp expected is like specifically supposed to account for like what is blocked and then what are you getting but I do note like I think someone framed it really well that like oh I like St by the way so like uh all of the error in your model your model saying this is how many yards you should get this is what you actually got sort of the difference is what you call the error are we just going to attribute 100% of that to the running back that seems a little overconfident in what we’re measuring like a lot of times like oh weirdly like three teammates all show up top 10 like there’s probably something going on there Naj was I think a little better last year than he had been in previous years but I I don’t want to say he’s like a top 10 Runner no no no not not even close and rush yards don’t respect it it’s interesting but it’s like a lot of it’s it’s interesting as long as it’s not the only sty you’re looking at basically yeah you not want to be building the entire house out of R yoe um as the kids call it yeah so yeah Davis thank you so Dave what do you have going on right now what do you want to tell the folks about check me out every day on Sports grid you can uh like if you’re if you’re at a bar or an airport they definitely have it on um Kyle’s been on actually Kyle on on on Sports grid television uh you can listen to the sports grid fantas football podcast or the take cast if you just search my name on your your podcatcher of choice those will pop up Davis one of the absolute best podcasters in the game and one of the best Minds in the game thank you Davis really really appreciate you coming by thank you so much to Denny thank you so much to Kyle check out Kyle’s article on the NFL schedule release check out my article next week on the NFL General NFL’s general managers I’m putting it on air so I actually finish it saying that so check that out um thank you so much for listening Denny and I will be back next Tuesday