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okay in reading your bio you trained in ovw for a while I did after I got signed with WWE so I trained with Ron Hutcherson first and then um one of the guys that trained with Ron opened up a a Lucha school and so I’d already kind of gotten all my fundamental and learn my psychology and kind of was you know I already started matches so I really just wanted to sharpen up my other skills in terms of uh wrestling styles that influenced me which was Japanese and Mexican wrestling as well but uh those kind of moves influen me but I’ve always been a all a stickler for American psychology like that’s what I love is American psychology when it comes to wrestling and what what made you want to get into wrestling I mean I think what everyone you know every wrestler pretty much is a wrestling fan at some point in their life and I watched it when everyone watch wrestling you know was the the days of the hulkster Brett hard and you know when everybody watched wrestling literally Saturday night’s Main Event uh you’re you know as a kid you’re just struggling to stay awake on those special nights once a month um just and then I kind of fell out of it and then I when I was in college I was switching the channels and I got uh caught up on a storyline that wasn’t even had had nothing to do with the women’s division but at the time they were just starting to have the women wrestle a lot more it was like the Trish the Victoria the ivory you know Molly Jackie everyone um that Golden Era of women and I fell in love with the wrestling part of the business you know I really fell in love with the spor of wrestling and so found a wrestling school and the rest was history as we say you know I was just very uh fortunate so you trained around rip Rogers yes after the fact yes Jimmy cornet yes yes and Kenny Bowman yes I did yes those are my days those are my days okay you you gotta tell us that you gotta tell us a cornet story well with cornette I only have good stories like I don’t know I love oh I wanna I want to tell you something about cornette he is the only one really yes on my say this hand that he’s never said anything bad about apparently you impressed him me no you oh me okay oh he he has never said anything bad or negative about you at all yeah he’s uh that’s not that doesn’t take in too many people because he’s knocked everybody has he well then I feel very honored so any any Jimmy stories yeah so Jim cornette you know obw and then I came you know so I had experiences with Jim Cornet in WWE and TNA but I’ll say the more uh close relationship I had was when he was my agent in TNA and this was pre- Knockouts division days so this is when Jackie was just brought in to kind of test the waters of the Women’s Division and so he was my first uh agent that I can clearly remember because I begged for a steel cage match with Jackie Moore and I remember he was my agent because he gave us the finish for that mat match and what you know I was still green at that point to if if we’re really being honest here I probably because people think that it takes a couple years for you to be really comfortable and to lead in that ring it can take quite a quite yeah it took me I would say about the eight-year Mark is when I really remember feeling very comfortable and so Jim cornette at that time that was when I was just wrestling you know and that’s all I really knew and Jim cornette was like how about this Gil at the end of that match you know you have this thing one and you’re about to step out that door and then you just look at that crowd and then you go no way and you slam the door and you go up to the top and I think it’s my real first time with a producer where it just clicked in like the storytelling aspect you know it wasn’t just about the wrestling moves and how can you really get that crowd and boy did I hear it and feel it and at the end of that match I remember the crowd really coming um and exploding and I just remember when I had my um my beauty at the end of that after my hand got raised I remember going near the crowd and you know really feeling them and I think wrestlers when you have those certain moments in your career where you finally get them and you feel it and you do something for that reaction you see that it works it kind of clicks that was one of my first clear moments and so it always sticks with you and um uh that’s why when I’m producing now when I tell one of the girls for example Jordan Grace when she started with us for the longest time I would tell her I’m just not feeling any emotion like you got to give something and they want to feel that emotional um reaction or um the intimacy and she had this uh real moment of emotion and I said did you hear the crowd react when you did and she said yeah I actually did and she kept on doing it from that point on that was that moment for me you know the same thing uh when you finally get it that you know you can kind of control the crowd in some ways when you’re training somebody that’s one of the hardest things to get across because even when I started with Swagger he would do things I said don’t do that I mean you know they told us don’t play the people I went don’t play the people yeah that’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard yeah I said do you see Vince McMahon come to step we’ll get back to him in just a minute you see p man come into the ring he’s playing them for all their worth his hands is this I said that’s what they’re there for they want to be played yes but I call it I I I tell young wrestlers it’s like a comedian you go on stage you gotta feel the heat in that room yeah you got to feel that temperature and I’ve seen one con uh comedian he would go to one corner then he’d go to another corner and then he said well I’m just feeling where I’m getting the most reaction what corner and if I get a reaction stay in this corner and do my whole routine [Music]