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[Music] [Music] h [Music] he welcome to the special edition of the montal Canadian of course local room report on the great Tuesday night January 9 20124 our co-host Mar going to join me live at talking about subject about the last 24 hours a lot of thing about David Rea about go go can use um show at the sh yesterday I believe it was and many other things L strong the waiver and then the trade bait of the TR grass so we decide to come here for approximately 60 minutes talking about everything about mon Canadian I think it would be a great opportunity to sharing with all of you in the chat about the mon can we know mon going to be on the ice the next two nights they going to play at the flowers at the W Fargo almost the Spectrum but there a w Fargo Arena and then they’re going to return at home again as s the sharks they are losing right now at 5 to1 again 10 game in NHL Tonight busy night for the around the NHL for this evening Mr Mar welcome in the house thank to be with me tonight appreciate lot you the time you gave to us on the great evening so much going on over the last 24 hours coach like you said just uh rather than going on Twitter and trying to you know chat with people that this is this is H the people that are great to talk about hockey with I love talking about hockey with our with our chat so lots of interesting things happening over the last 24 hours the 60 minutes I think is going to fly by like we have uh so much to talk about so really looking forward to it yeah absolutely about that we miss and have some kind of engagement right now so maybe pop up a little bit later but uh definitely we w’t talk about F thing that’s the subject of the night that we Got Tonight very quickly going to show to you show to you guys is about Z and Montreal this is a remark get out after to trade a Col go to the an where P ver possible he would like to trade uh a PL like a zig because something happening during the off SE off season when he didn’t want to sign his contract and maybe kind of disagreement between verbeck we know verbeck is old school and is a tough tough negotiat negotiator and uh and one I think he’s GM is this Salan um I’m not sure but we know that patford Beak was trained by Steve Eiserman right so yeah but he have ism is worse like this is the biggest number one negotiator in NH sh I think it’s s i could be could be wrong my name in my head is John salivan but I could be wrong about that but that’s what is anyhow uh you don’t play you don’t mess with them for sure about that we have a few people knock the door so going to go quickly before and then going to try talk about everything first of all lar L is in the house for D tuxen in Arizona Roy for Bangkok is in the house Rick from the lake house with Dimitra around the alifax area CL from atawa we have Gary con the UPS driver directly from the island of Montreal and then we have Mr Randy wman sit somewhere and and Alberta Mr Randy doing hopefully doing well and we have Mr Michael Deo back in dream is in the house tonight welcome back Michael fully doing well not sure he’s in California n a or somewhere around the wall it’s Marine knocked the door tonight watch out your head uh here we go that’s happening again uh this is every time on this one I don’t know is it Whatever It Is My Head top of my head is used to it I’ve gotten uh blisters on the top of my head exactly look door thanks so much look to be with our show following before that Mark Eliot what the want for Z can be defenseman they have plenty about that one over there William mlar back in the house tonight welcome Mr William mlar uh s poak was a legendary a tough negotiator I agree with you Roy and not only about negotiator but also Roy about make a trait or seal players around the Montreal area over anybody else iting uh that was before a that was before a Players Association though that he could be tough on negotiations right kind of a different world like where you could hand over you know like write write the number on the back of an envelope give it to the player and that that was your contract for the year so kind of different times but yeah uh s poock is legendary and a is in the house and the Kua is in the house tonight another from Alberta I don’t know what’s the weather from the West to the east I look like you have some snow in Toronto huge snowstorm here like uh we’re being pelted probably about at least six inches of snow probably in the last couple days it’s snowing like crazy right now so big time there we go that’s uh generary what we expect right exactly yeah and it’s it’s all part of the all part of the being Canadian it’s great here we go so first of all going to maybe go right away on the monan news today the mon Canadian as Gustav langstrom on The weiver Today some Remar said possibly going to be draft he only 24 years old right defenseman some maybe Chicago or maybe other team could maybe add a player like Lang strong uh we know what he did before with the detroy went play a couple of game with M and the end again too many different monal at this moment I think the reason behind that I put after that RHP a traveling with the flowers I would not be surprised uh they add RHP in the roster and that would open up they need a spot and that’s the reason I believe they uh remove link from today I could be around here but is a question the days RHP should be back in the roster take the spot and so I would like to hear that maybe add a little bit more information about that yeah so I I think you’re right coach like Lindstrom is you know he he played pretty well like when he was uh you know playing with with montre alic I think he’s a serviceable six you know six defenseman right-handed I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets snatched up by another team is at the end of the world for Montreal like you said we have so much depth ideally you know youd want to lose a left-handed uh defenseman not a right-handed defenseman but I I don’t think he’s really part of the long-term plan uh for those who don’t remember he was part of the Jeff Petri uh trade you know so uh you know not the end of the world I think your right coach about RHP I I watched some clips of him in practice uh this morning and he looks pretty good like lots of energy and seem to be moving around really well uh Stu did say that he wasn’t expecting any changes to the lineup for next game other than Primo who was going to be the starter for Montreal but um that was before that they um announced that Lindstrom was down and that they had the roster spot so who knows like you said if it’s not this game then certainly we can expect him to come up soon and I think he’ll be a welcome addition to the lineup um you know you kind of forget the the energy and the desperation that he plays with um I think you’ll fit right into kind of how Montreal has been playing over the last couple weeks um you know so I’m very excited to see him back um again he’s not some that we can we should expect is going to come in and be a savior or anything like that but just a really another we don’t have a lot of left-handed shots in the lineup coach that can you know there’s a lot of lines that have three right-handed shots um so maybe even some second unit power play time for him you know that second unit hasn’t really been playing Super well and they have a lot of like there’s gager only have already gager there but that yeah yeah so we’ll see but either way it will be a good addition I think we all be excited to see him back he just works so hard right and you like a you know coach we’re talking about Mar saying we wanting some predictability in in the players and we’re talking about Jacky and how that’s something he needs to work on to be be called back up is the predictability of what you bring when you’re on the ice and I think it’s easy to say that Harvey pinard is the most predictable player that sui has he he knows no matter who he’s playing with what time of the game uh Harvey Perard’s always going to play the same way so always good to to bring a guy like that back in the lineup for sure great a great point about that would it be interesting what he going to do defitely if not tomorrow night San Jose or the next game this weekend I think it’s the Edmonton right Saturday uhon just curiously just curious before asking this question we have few people knock the door or moderator run with King the first of the night pop up tonight before that Mr Robert web is in the house tonight abin knock the door thanks so much John Gage joined the show we have marot and think I said about this to him a little bit earlier and then we have Roy said which P trade when he was traed the Detroit Red Wings um right G Ling was part of that deal to back to Montreal and return we have so no not yet but the conversation is in convers is in circulation around the montal about maybe Z could be a play with mon looking for uh if they have agreement that tonight we have Mr Mark d699 in the house tonight uh welcome in the house long time we don’t see around thanks to be with our k show so a lot of people a lot of snow and the uh a lot of snow everywhere and then they have a lot of cold weathers coming this weekend from andd and the chat last question about that before we move on um Primo Tom who next who next I’d probably say it’s going to be you know because the reason that they have Primo coming in it would be it’s going to be 14 days since the last time that he would have started and then on top of that Philly is his hometown right so bit of a bit of a prop to the kid to to play in his hometown in front of family and friends and then I think it makes sense you put in Allen you know uh for for the game against San Jose I like that because in theory San Jose should be the easiest game you know it’s kind maybe a bit of a trap game but again like Allen has only won I think one out of his last 10 games or something like that uh so it would just be nice to uh give him the opportunity to get a win uh for for Jake Allen and then you come back uh with the toughest game probably of the week against Edmonton you come back with mono would be my guess and now we have a new ldp Z on my FY of course he just missed about after the season now he get he left the game for about an inury his leg so other news about that talking about San Jose 71 Toronto right now again the Sharks uh and the panther Take the Lead 21 again the blues the lead 30-0 the kxs guys 4 to1 again the Islanders the Kraken I don’t know what the Buffalo say gu I don’t know how mon L six to1 but they losing we now 5 to2 Ken have a really good month of December I think they turn after Thanksgiving um I would be I would love to see the number of the point and NHL by the team all right since Thanksgiving until tonight I believe Ken maybe on the maybe at least top 15 maybe top 10 yeah probably top 10 definitely a team on the rise yeah for sure and then the Kings honestly all beating the temp prob like by two Z the like last four of the last six game at home um La really needing that win too right like they were a bit for the first time this year kind of a little bit of a slump uh as well with LA so big game for La uh lots of concerns if you’re Tampa Bay right now like uh kind of sliding out of the playoff picture a little bit here coach like it’s going to be tough I think we all expect that there’s going to be more Metro teams than Atlantic division teams maybe for the playoffs and it’s funny because the beginning like I we said in October November at least in November we thought he going to be be maybe five from AIC and then three forther right it’s GNA be at least four and four maybe more uh Washington and Philly right they’re the ones that are kind of really uh complicating things right like those are two teams I didn’t see at all at all near the playoff picture to be honest Washington a bit closer but I saw Philly you know in the bottom you know in the bottom five of The League again uh but you can’t underestimate I guess the value of Shan coutou what an amazing uh you know kind of impact he’s had coming back on that Philadelphia team and just one other year of Tortorella you know having uh that’s a good segue probably to um to our conversation about cutter go right like uh a lot of conversation out there coach like curious about your thought on this right so uh cutter goce’s agent and himself you know have decided to not really provide a reason as to why he didn’t want to play in Philadelphia you know and um you know in I used to work in marketing and you know in uh you know in in corporate Communications we often say that if you don’t if you don’t provide a narrative if you don’t provide a story for the public to consume then they’ll just make up their own story right so sometimes not saying anything is worse than saying something because the public is just going to keep trying to guess why and it just creates all these stories right so do you think it was the wrong move you know for cutter go not to come out you know because the report that we’re seeing right now is that go never really publicly you know he certainly hasn’t publicly said why he didn’t want to go to Philly and then Daniel B is saying that they still don’t know why he didn’t want to play in Philadelphia right and there’s been some uh quotes from his agent saying that they want to take the high road and they they’re not going to go into it but you know in your opinion coach is it just better to be transparent if you’re cutter go in the situation it’s going to follow him around are you talking about the flow transition I’m talking about cutter go like why um if if you’re cutter go and his Entourage his agent why wouldn’t you like when you don’t come out and publicly say why you didn’t want to go to the flyers then all all you’re going to do the story is just going to keep going and going and people are going to make up stories and it’s just going to get out of hand right yeah so I think the best for him right now is to take wait see what the flers do first and then after that when he’s going to be you know he’s still not in NHL yet he playing NCA and honestly uh this is the reason if he was already you know trade for the docks to the uh to the docks you play already in it you’re going to hear a littleit bit quicker faster I think he just let it go in after that you’re going to talk about this proper the right at the right time I believe uh because I I was talking with someone in the chat we have talk about Hy and then uh you know everybody’s talk about Daniel Bri he does this this this everything like that so look this is a one side it’s like everything else right a divorce you wear only one side of the divorce you have to wear the other side of before you judge something happening so we have to wa a bit more about GUI uh for me for what we heard is really a contract uh negotiation problem he want to have his contract last year I believe he’s the only one at the top 10 at that draft they have no contract but that could be wrong uh but this is one reason and then the flers want to wait because they don’t want to go uh over overage overage yeah with the with the bonuses for so they was wait and then they have the transition between the GM and everything like that so I think overall uh um but again I think everything this is already start during the summer right we refused to go to camp we did not do a lot of search about this we don’t go deep about this but secondly it’s one he refused to met uh John llar and um Patrick Sharp Patrick Sharp all right at the at the world J championship so I think at that moment it would be his it was the end for him uh with the flowers and uh look both team win and that’s for me uh theam got a a solid forward 63 and the doc get a great defenseman Jal guys is a great defenseman uh he was hurt yeah like so that’s the thing right coach like so cutter go was selected fifth overall and and uh Dale was selected sixth overall so and usually if we go by the Habs uh you know r Chan and I think everybody would agree that cuz cutter goce is probably going to be a Winger in the NHL even though he’s known as a center he plays center I think he’s probably going to be a Winger right so especially now that he’s going to be playing in Anaheim there’s no way that he’s goingon to play center ahead of Carlson and McTavish so I’m wondering like um I I it I think it tells you a little bit about how the Ducks and even the Flyers value Dale because the Anaheim had to actually throw in a second pick second round pick on top of that and they’re in terms of draft ranking they’re pretty much the same right so yes Dell’s a good you know like obviously he has um you know some good upside but he’s an undersized right-handed defenseman with some injury problems right so there’s some people out there that are kind of debating whether Philadelphia could have waited a bit more like you know they were talking to 1820 teams apparently and they somehow were able to keep it all secret which is amazing in 2024 but listen like it’s I don’t think you know I think it’s a good trade for both teams but you can see that Anaheim had to give a little bit more because of Dale you know like with the injury issues and you know coach you’ve said it before right not a lot of teams win with undersized defenseman in their top four right so um we’ll see we’ll see how it plays out it’s one of those trades that you’ll have to look at it’s kind of remember like the Seth Jones for Johanson trade you know like that was a really big you know know a young Center for Young defenseman and now only really eight years later can you really look and see kind of who won that that trade right it’s going to be one of those it’s going to take a while to really understand who got the best of the deal um you’d imagine that that second round pick for Manheim is even if it’s for 2025 it’s still going to be a relatively High pick right like probably top 15 at least sorry about that and is in the house n goby but no is in the house we said a lot of great comments from Roy in the chat Ron talk about l d ADP talk about the injury of the zass Randy talk about GOI is a monster and Randy is watching all his left side of his eyes and the Flames over there the reason we talk about go is because the TR go to the duck the conversation about do want to report over there blah blah but but um last year at the trade at the NL draft uh the phone was Ring a lot to can use first of all the N Predator want to make a big splash it looked like it looked like they offer ascar and a 15 overall pick for the fifth overall pick this is what the weard the second the second rumor is the FL knock the door uh to get uh to trade cut uh go to the m can ENT to the fifth overall pick and both time can you did not move anything about that so uh my question to you it will be my question my poll question today by the way I think we have 600 people from last night rebacker versus go is not still a draft rebacker so my question is like what do you do if you get a phone call last year at the number five before you select your plus do you trade that your fif oral pick for go that’s the first thing yeah well so first of all like how busy was Kent Hughes you know because coach remember like you know I think after during the draft you know we’re all like well it wasn’t as exciting as last year you know like because it was hard to beat the draft the slaki draft there’s so many things going on but it sounds like we were pretty close to having a pretty almost equally exciting uh draft last year um it just never happened right so you have two really as far as we know two uh very serious offers for that fifth round pick um I think they were crazy not to take the Nashville offer to be honest Asar off plus a 15th overall I think that would be a really really nice move for them uh for this move here same thing you know like uh uh so what this tells me is that um Montreal really likes really really likes uh Ryan Boer a lot because not only like not only did they not uh pick uh you know uh mitchoff but they also refused two very very good traits for him so as an organization and we we’ve heard Kent Hugh say this before that um and I I I think some people have doubted that how honest they were about this but they said it was almost unanimous across all their Scouts and all the management team that they should pick Ryan Bacher right so to to me it seems pretty consistent though like because they had a lot of different options with this pick so what this tells me is you know I I don’t believe that they probably did that much homework on goate before the draft like it it’s it’s one of those things you know that maybe they knew a little bit about him but um to me it’s more about how the Habs feel felt about reinbacher at the time is very telling right so for me personally I really like the ascar off trade probably even more um for rather than just a one for one because then you’re getting two very good assets right a scar off and then like who got selected like wouldn’t we be close to getting a player like uh like Benson or somebody like that maybe if we’re around the 15th when did Benson get picked 17th I think which one Benson well no dra it wasn’t 11 10 okay 12 but I think at 15 I think you’re still 12 I believe yeah yeah but I I still think at 15 you’re getting a good player right so out out of those two moves I would have chosen the Nashville trade personally but um this is still a very good move so you know go you know to be honest like you know he he is being called a power forward to me he’s more of a sniper like if you watched him during the World Juniors he’s not somebody that really plays that aggressive of a game you know he’s really somebody that plays more he’s like a giant Cole Coffield right in the sense where he’s looking for openings almost like a sniper and trying to get a wine timer off more more so than somebody who is using his body driving the net and things like that and obviously with with the body frame that he has he has the ability to do that but to me the best power forward on the US team at the world juniors was ruer mcgi not cutter goatee if you ask me so all that being said coach you know um would I have traded the fifth overall pick for go based on what the Habs needs are yes that that’s probably a move that I would have done right but again they have a lot more information than I have it’s clear that you know not just because they turned down both those trades but they also didn’t draft Mekka for for whatever reason they’ve they’ve chosen several times they had lot seems like a lot of different options and they decide to go with Ryan Bacher so it says a lot about how they feel about him what about you coach like would you have pulled the trigger on that like I saw your video it’s not like your video was huge mistake by Hab I’m assuming you also feel it was kind of a mistake right yeah and the reason behind that for me but first of all we have a few people knock the door and JSM I said earlier uh Chris andon is in the house uh super Drew 932 is in the house Mitch B is in the house welome a lot of great comment pick up to make all those comment in the chat that be great I want to mention one thing about this from Bob uncle is in the house tonight uh thanks so much Bob to get there uh now Chris you want to make a a reification there he said the first rumor is wrong it was dependent on the one of the center B at the five no Center at Five it doesn’t make yeah right about Chris but the point behind that is uh they was still trade the fifth overall pick if Smith or whatever is maybe Carson whatever is the name he was looking for to trade Asar for the fifth 15 overall pick so great to mention that Chris about this for that Mar is in the house is another one there and then Gary mon is good as K I don’t think so Gary uh a long term I think Asar is going to be a solid go tender in in about that Randy we just mention what is happening there as far not avable they the a great about this as will the fifth pick to draft re back Al met a good pick at drafting Reb backer so back at your question again to be sure I can answer back by the way that we just Jinx the Kings two2 cam talot cam talot I still don’t trust that guy if I’m the Kings I I know he’s going to the All-Star Game and everything but coach like if you’re the LA Kings you really want to go into the playoffs with Cam tabot overload overloading right now it’s too much over for sure so I I think he could be a s go tender if you use him you know two time per week ma right so it’s about approximately eight time per month uh that’s it that’s all but now right now they use him maybe 12 11 12 times so it’s just an overload about that little bit like Jake alen at end of the night so the question asking me if I will trade reaka for go I would say to you yes um because I think um is a Josh Anderson on the left side and a Josh Anderson better at the end of the night and because everything me is based for one thing guys the NSL draft 2024 whatever you are in the draft top 20 whatever you are if you are top eight the difference man you’re going to select is going to be better at David reaker so always keep this on your mind behind that the reason I’m talking about so for me uh the if they think that it you know we don’t have any kind of player like go and we get ass solid players I think go opinion is better to but was another question I think it’s better to mov I think it’s better to um mov because the problem uh everything like that I think it’s better to R Le onard and then for me because his physicality the size I think it would be be it would be better at the one you H the playoff better at Bon or opinion so if you think about that okay so I totally get what you’re saying but I haven’t seen cutter go play that physical watch him the the on the Boston colge there uh I now he not going to be a fighter like Josh and anything like that but it’s a prototype players in my opinion better at M ni I hope so like from what I’ve seen from him is that he under uses his size he doesn’t really use it to his Advantage he for my taste anyways for a guy that’s that big and that you’re going to call a an elite power forward kind of like slavy right like uh it’s kind of the opposite of slavoski slavoski is amazing at winning board battles and doing all the small this is a great point about this Marco look likei what he did at the beginning look what you’re looking now and it risen D was said this is you’re right when you talk about go but when you going to get that level one they was said to him look look your body you have look this is if you want to s in it not stand in if you want to become the great hoot here you need to use your body properly the right way and what marus said I think I think it’s you don’t have to destroy the guy uh through the glasses is to use your body uh properly uh to win your botle uh to uh turn uh win a bottle but also part protection everything like that and that’s what I believe you talk about but when you play the team Jr your size is a bit bigger but usually you you it’s a Jacky jakai guys when you play in HL the only the only way they would tell him he cannot he does not box out because you was not necessary to box out anybody not boxing box out is the and the F that because you was bigger to anybody else for me this why I’m not too much worried about I could be around here but that’s the reason I can explain to you but the great Point Co I’m sorry if I cut you no no so I totally get it so when it comes to these things coach like um you know I’m sure that Habs management interviewed cutter goer during that draft you know so they they probably know him quite a bit right so um I’m curious as to what you know again like to me it’s they must love love love love reinbacher in order cuz I think we all see that that’s the this is the kind of player that they need right like they they need a left-hand shot big body that can score goals so what is it about cutter go that can’t Hughes didn’t like what is it like what could it be is like if if it’s not if it’s not hockey related if it’s not the potential or Talent related what else could it be and I don’t want to start rumors or whatever but based on kind of you know you can have an opinion as to whether okay it it is his right not to kind of sign with the team and do all that but what’s different from what uh cutter go did than other players who have like let’s say fox and other players who have decided not to sign with their teams He just flat out refused to even talk to them right um and meof did very similar things in in his like when he was being drafted right there’s certain teams that he refused to meet with leading up to the draft so maybe Montreal a valid concern for them is okay cutter go is not willing to play for Philadelphia is he going to be willing to play for Montreal are you going to really take that risk you know so what we’ve learned about Ken Hughes is that I don’t think like I don’t think he’s somebody that takes a lot of risks when it comes to these kinds of things right like he can be pretty conservative um just by not drafting mechkov we can pretty much determine that that you know he he wasn’t willing to gamble on a player like that so with cutter go if you’re Montreal I don’t think there’s anything from hockey perspective that they wouldn’t like because again like even though you can argue like I was saying that he doesn’t use his body as much as he should he’s not as physical as he should you’re right like you know after time learning how to play the right way and with the right coaching you can’t you can you can’t you can’t train big and strong right like it’s the same thing with slavoski so to me the only reason that Hughes wouldn’t have traded that fifth round pick for cutter goce is a couple reason reasons a they legitimately liked Ryan Bacher better and that that could be true and who knows we’ll only know you know five six years from now maybe Ryan Bacher ends up being like you know a top two right-hand defenseman that plays like 26 minutes a game and is an amazing two-way defenseman and you know he’s he’s amazing and then maybe the Habs management will win the day that way or the other reason is that they also had some concern about whether it would work with cutter go in Montreal for whatever reason they didn’t think maybe there’s he wants to be on the West Coast or maybe they’ve heard something about his character whatever it is there’s a reason because on paper cutter go hits all the the uh criteria that that that Montreal Canadians would be looking for in a player right they’re they’re they have to be looking for a left-handed shot that is big that can score like he fits the bill so coach like what other reason could there be if if it wasn’t something other than some risk that we don’t know about because it’s clear that they would like the player right yeah sorry about that I was just answer so for the people in the chat about that no everything you said you absolutely about this but again um you know that that the time we tell us exactly and I try to explain to people the reason why I would TR for GOI and at the end of the show you’re going to understand my situation about that one over there so at the end you don’t trade the reaker right I again I would have traded reinbacher for go unless there’s something that I learned like again we don’t have all the same information that they have right they might have some information saying that there’s no way go would ever play in Montreal or he would just in the long term he wouldn’t want to play yeah they do the homework right they they they they know if thing about that I think the fact like um it is been to the N team national uh Team uh connection with carfield play play over there and the rest you know you talk about his son uh Jack and also he play for Boston uh Boston College Boston College I know they will know exactly if they want to figure out about go g go I believe at the end of the day guys the reason they did not s did not trade GOI is they have many team at the selection 5 six S 8 n 10 Won David rakker that’s simple it was the top players after the top four Arizona if mon don’t select re backer they select rebacker philia trade GOI to get reaker nille want to move for 15 and askar if they if the center you talk about this but I think they would love to get rebaka at the end of the day so they have many team whatever it would be rebaka was really the high demand for the monal Canadians so I think at the end of the day um it’s not necessarily what go RAR around him it’s more about reaker for the M it was better selection y that was those are my two options either a they just like Brian Bacher more than goer which is completely legitimate we we you know like I said it’s going to take years for us to know if they were right but that’s either a they just like the player more and again if all these teams are trying to uh trade with you to go and get him that just reinforces the fact that okay yeah we have the right here right or if if it’s if if for some reason they were tempted uh by cutter go um they felt that that he was a superior player for their team at that time but there was something that we don’t know about because on on paper from a hockey perspective you know he has everything that Montreal would be looking for at that point so it’s it’s one of those two reasons they like rybach or more or there’s something they were concerned about that isn’t hockey related those would be the two reasons all right next it’s okay yeah o yikes this is a scary one coach like um your chewing so I’ll I’ll kind of tea it up te it up for us so uh so as a result of all this you know as you can understand so cutter goer moves over to Anaheim uh Anaheim they send back uh you know Dell now like you were saying coach this upcoming draft in 2024 is literally filled with really high-end defenseman right so if you’re Pat for beak you know first of all you already have a lot of you know you have a great pipeline of young defenseman already and if for some reason you’re not happy with the pipeline that you have you know that you know with your pick that is probably going to be a pretty high pick at least in the top five this year then you’re going to get another really good defenseman uh if you want that could replace Dale in what you’re doing that’s even if you feel you need to replace that body so now that that’s happened I think naturally a lot of the hockey world is thinking okay so if you look at Anaheim upfront now with all the assets that they have so you’re talking about McTavish Carlson um you know all the young gr players that they have up front does that mean that zis is already in play now if you look at the history there zis had a very very tough negotiation coach like you were saying off the top of the show with Pat verbi the ended up just going with a more of a bridge deal uh instead while a lot of his best buddy Cole Coffield signed long-term with his team so probably a tough pill to swallow if you’re zigris um so a very very tough negotiation probably some egos were bruised you know from what what we hear these negotiations negotiations can be very Savage right like if you’re the team you’re having to point out negative points about the player and it can be it can be kind of destructive right like these kinds of conversations with all that being said that you know there’s a there’s a pretty strong possibility and there’s there’s a word out there Darren Dreer was reporting that although he’s not like Anaheim is not shopping him they are certainly open to moving him and and they’re at least listening or at least they uh they’re being contacted about Trevor’s EOS so naturally you know there’s a lot of connections between Trevor zis and Montreal or Anaheim in Montreal Just because they you know in some ways they’re natural uh trade Partners uh because Montreal is looking for Ford um I’m not sure really Anaheim is looking for defense um but may maybe they would right so bottom line the question is and it’s it’s all over Twitter everybody’s talking about it today is and Coach we’ve talked about this over the last couple weeks over many shows Montreal has so much depth on left hand D that we’ve talked about okay what makes more sense you’re moving either mat or you’re trading somebody like Kaden ghouly who’s probably your most valuable trade chip to go out and get a Topline Elite forward to you know which is the biggest thing that’s missing right so the big question with the Today’s Show do you do it do you trade a Caden gouie for Trevor zeris is it something that you’re willing to do um is it the type of player that you think would fit well with the Montreal Canadians is Kaden ghouly somebody that you’re willing to trade potentially somebody that could be you know uh in the leadership group in the future so guys we want to hear from you about this I think coach and I have uh some strong opinions about this coach why don’t you go ahead first and tell us how you feel about this like where where do you fall on this spectrum of whether you would be willing to sacrifice somebody like gouy and and do you think Trevor zis would be a good fit in monreal yes here we go we lot people in the chat just knock the door Mr uh Patrick pop up I don’t know what is your bet today Patrick I can I go to bed tonight without knowing what you if you win not tonight so you have to tell me Patrick what was your bed tonight and then Mark welcome in the house not mark But ER and rich is in the house I think Mar if you see my my post checking bne is back also and Nick is star j z is another to SK player that play soft for JSM about that one over there so for me guys I to just score a goal Take the Lead two to one by the way like Emon take the lead to one again Black Ops for me what I’m taking is this part if you want to get a top six forward you have to give something in return and the left side of The Monto Canadian is where really they have a lot of high value players they have Aon a kid I believe they are the top two players for um highest you can get in return and that’s why for me if you want to get Trevor agress that would cost you kid and Coy now the problem behind that Marco honestly it’s maybe the ANM dock it’s not a good partner or the M are not a good partnership or a good partner fit and what the the Ducks are looking for on my opinion I could be round here I could be uh but uh because I think that do would like to get a top six and return Prospect or or a maybe a first one pick and return and that’s the only problem behind that but whatsoever M Mar is we talk about Zig right now but we could talk about any other players in NHL top six Mr Mar and I was said to you I would trade tonight K and Coy the reason behind that is mro Canadian are going to select top 10 and maybe top eight and maybe top six we don’t know what be the sing at the end of the year but for me maybe not right now to trade Z we don’t have to trade him right now and we have to wait we can wait at this off summer just before the NHL draft at the end of the day Mr Mar for me I will try k k to get a first one because my next defenseman I’m going to select this year is going to be better to any other defenseman we have in Montreal whatever you tell me no it will happening if you talk about thisav the player play right now for the Michigan State I know zv I would love if he wasn’t a Russian but guy is the next sh in NHL he’s already six7 right now uh big big giraff at the defenseman uh play and the K right there and you have Yim Chuck uh play right now the WL with the category uh and is under then big 6263 you have a scer I believe first name uh the Brother David chere Adam chere I believe overall is a better players CH brother have a better power Slap Shot but Adam is a really great skater and he bring more the he carry on the par more to his brother um David So Adam chere is another one over there we can talk about dickon kson I believe his first name and defenseman and I can go two more and that and all of them it’s not the same it maybe and not same it’s better what we talk about this so if Montreal is go there I’ll be shocked if they they pick a another forward this year I think they will go with a defenseman I’m maybe I’m round here because the quality of defenseman versus the second level of forward Marco not care about C de and um El Elan I think it is right so they are the top three forward they going to go like that deid guy is almost better to MAV and depend the prim going to get in Ria it’s going to be maybe go little bit lower but after that 5 to 10 guys it’s all about defenseman is it a full word you believe Mar could be better Ken alien lingstrom uh for me this not the guarantee is going to be a top line over there they’ll be a a good top nine but I think I’ll be I would would be shocked mon get a selection of defenseman this year to make a big huge trade after that uh to get a top players and then NHL we talk about Zig tonight but that’s the reason if you go that way would trade for me uh because you can get another defenseman now you have and my point behind that is montra have a lot of defenseman angstrom odson straw ball JY and then after that you have rebaka Mayu and and then you have Baron with m in and you have the Rian Kush up we don’t talk about him and then you add another defenseman on this selection draft with that you can get go and you can get zass or you can get another forward Marco uh for that now you want to go the next level lower level I think you have to keep Cooling and then you have to trade another like a STW B possible a player like him uh to get another players but that would be my selection about that if I was to do it I know the people that want to get coie but if you want to pay the price you have to get someone and the B and M are s they going to get that draft pick that’s the reason I we trade K because they can get a great defenseman that’s the reason behind hopefully they answer your question about that that’s a very very long answer but I don’t think you still answered the question like so you’ve you’ve laid out your whole strategy for how you would do the draft and everything but is zis the guy that you would move what how whichever asset it is is zis the guy that you’re doing to going with Canadian on your top six okay I trade I will trade for that okay so you so if you’re if you’re Ken Hughes zus is a guy to give you that Marco is zigras and the defenseman and NHL draft name it right for me is better at KI and maybe Ken or El elus okay so my concern with that so listen I agree with everything you just said an easier way maybe of getting to what you’re saying though coach is instead of trading ghouly if you know that all these other teams are going to really highly value if the defenseman in this upcoming draft are as valuable and as good as everyone thinks maybe Montreal Just trades their first round draft pick for whoever that top six player is going to be rather than going through the trouble because TR trading somebody uh trading gly and getting a defenseman in this year’s draft that player is going to be several years behind the rest of their core right so I think an easier way to get to what you’re saying is because what you’re saying is that the defenseman that they’re getting in this year’s draft is going to be as good or better than gouie right so other teams are going to know that as well so why not just trade whoever is looking for that defenseman like an Anaheim or whoever is looking to get him or get a really good high-end defenseman in the draft just trade that draft pick next year to get the top six player that you want to get now on the subject of zis he’s not a guy that at this point for me that I would want to build my team around you know so he’s a right now he’s a 60 65o player over his first two seasons um I know Anaheim is a terrible team but like you know minus 21 minus 24 his first two seasons I know that’s not the best statistic but just from an ey test watching Zer play um and I know you know young players it takes them a while to kind of learn the game and everything else I just don’t know if he would be the best in Montreal um in terms of you know someone who like think of PK right like fans love watching PK but it’s a very difficult environment to not know how to playe properly right like every single thing he’s going to do is going to be under the microscope and of course he’s going to be great for highlights and things like that I just don’t know if he’s the kind of player that you’re going to win a Stanley Cup with in your top six right like I do you really see zigris as somebody that is going to learn how to play the game two ways like Montreal is just in the process of building a culture of playing the right way are you really going to bring in a guy and then you have the the maybe the risk of you already have Cole Coffield that is bought into the existing system you bring in his literally his best friend if his best friend doesn’t buy into the same system you might lose Cole Cofield too right like you might have he end up might end up being a negative influence on Cole Coffield who is now you’re trying to get him to buy into playing the right way so there’s a lot of things that makes me nervous about zigris but I don’t so for me zigris would not be the guy that I would Target but I totally totally understand and am supportive of Montreal either trading ghouly or their first round draft pick if it can get them a player like a cutter goce a left-handed big you know big scoring Winger that is going to be able to fit in that top six but for me coach I think you zis would drive you absolutely nuts watching you like I can just imagine you doing the play byplay and I can imagine our chat here they might they might think that they would like watching zis every night but I can guarantee you he would drive you absolutely bananas and would get on your nerves because he does not really play hockey the right way at all everybody can and and it sh does not play the right way uh until they get to 24 25 26 years old um I don’t that so for me it would be about that is not signed yet now what the what Chris said the chat Mar apologize but what Chris said he have already L out an agreement with the m Canadian is going to sign a contract one he’s going to move on to NCA to uh become a personal the the the chat was talking about that patri have no contract Chris say have yes contract yes yeah no contract but the agreement is already done between monreal because some people think he could be like go to go and maybe not coming to Montreal he will come to Montreal yeah have no problem with that part with there yeah Hudson is I I don’t have any concern about Hudson eventually being in Montreal I I I don’t think he like I I don’t think he has a contract yet like he hasn’t signed his contract with Montreal but I you know from what you hear from Ken Hughes the confidence level is pretty high um you know and yeah see like Michael I have watch zis on the ice in practice at Anaheim and I wanted to throw up yeah yeah yeah again like I’m watching you know the highlights are fun to watch would there be some great moments having zerus play with Montreal like I can guarantee you know like uh he would be the guy that hockey Knight and Canada would focus on and sports night would focus on I really don’t think that you win you you build a winning team with a guy like like Zer coach I just really really don’t um especially in the playoffs like I just don’t see him more more point is first two years in in intial yeah I don’t I don’t just I I don’t find that hard to believe he’s got 60 he’s averaging 65 points you know pretty much and this year obviously 65 61 65 and right now we have 7 and 19 uh but he got hurt all year long for sure yeah % 40% on faceoffs so I don’t really consider him a center like he’s probably going to play was the same way at the end of the night yeah I I just don’t see zeras playing Center at all yeah I see him as a Winger yeah yeah for sure and is a guy can really run your power play yeah like he’s he’s a very good he’s an elite playmaker um I think we need more of a like you’ve talked about Coach he’s I we need a goal score I think more so a left-handed goal scorer um you know that obviously I don’t I don’t want like somebody who is onedimensional that all all he does is shoots but for me I think zrus is very much a perimeter player um and that that’s very hard to to build a winning uh winning culture with like so let’s assume that they would do that right so I think our the first line for Montreal is locked up pretty good right you got I think moving forward you’ve got Coffield Suzuki and slavoski we all like the chemistry there they seem to complete each other really well so you’ve got arguably and and Coach this was my headline from last show about how what if you know like it’s it’s been very hard with all with docs injury and new hooks injury we don’t know what we have with those players right but you’d assume that Doc is going to be your second line Center so arguably then so zrus is not going to be playing with Coffield right which would be a natural because they played together at the US program he’s probably going to be playing with Doc so Doc is also more of a playmaker and so is zis so who’s who’s the goal scorer that’s playing on that line with as a as a right-hand shot but as the way they have to get they missing two right if you look about the lineup they missing at least a two top six forward okay so they would have to have it because they don’t they I don’t think so duck is a playmaker as a Zusi or AIG uh for me Dak is more like the guys go behind you know par over over the park and then he drive the net yeah not afraid to go around the net all that stuff so you need to have a playmaker around him uh for that part now like got s right there so let’s see we have S there so we have missing right now two play play with with Doc that’s that’s what you have to trade uh people want to trade lenardson or trade Ken k or whatever you want to trade but you have to do if not uh I don’t know how they can fill up those spot other the fact NHL draft and the NHL draft you’re going to get night next this year I don’t see any one of them going to make the Mont TR in in the next two or three years so K 12 are able to wait three years or at least two years and then he just start his NHL career play top six it’s no guarantee about that so at the end of the day they have now they have to make a trade Marco or they have to sign a UFA that I think they’re more likely to they’re more likely to do a trade coach like so for those of you who didn’t watch our last show um we talked about basically that there’s two phases in in what Kent Hughes is doing right so there is the asset collection and then there’s the roster Construction in that interview that you were talking about with an sham on RDS he was very clear about this right so they’re still in the asset collection phase right now but they think that maybe at the end of next year is really where they’re going to be moving to to do that roster construction so to me sorry at at the end of this year is when they’re really going to start to do that not at the end of next year at the end of this year so to me that is a very sneaky way of Kent Hughes saying at the draft this year I’m willing to trade my draft pick I’m also willing to trade assets so of course they’re going to do all their scouting and everything else but coach if they’re reading the board like we are and they know that they need a high that know the organizational need is for a topend offensive player to play in their top six preferably a left-handed shot they’re not seeing it unless they’re winning the lottery right so unless you win the lottery if you’re K Hugh you’re going there with the idea already understood that you’re open for business coach you’re you’re you’re ready to trade that draft pick you’re ready to not only trade your first round draft piit but you’re also ready to to maybe put other Assets in play that you have depending on what’s out there and again like what other kind of like Little Secret situations like the cutter gosia are out there there’s you know because if you asked us two weeks ago coach like is cutter go in play nobody would have thought he was in play right so you never know kind of what’s going going on with other teams and what assets might be available right so uh to me I think the most likely outcome is coach like I don’t know if we should put that much work into thinking about who Montreal is going to draft because I seriously believe that they’re going to just move that pick I really really do now they could move that pick for sure uh but we’ll see how they can get in return um that’s not easy to get a plug like that in NHL that’s the only thing um because the only way I can see that is a team are really looking for defenseman Marco like a team of 24 25 26 right and they have a solid forward and they want to get a new defenseman right there but yep yeah so many specul we we can pass all year long together to talking about s players anything like that but this is a way they can can go that direction they can make a I think the rumor for the I think I was a baron Aris plus a second round pick or first one pick I think I I read this today for that one there uh for that now talking about K because I want to clarify that all right on the one to 10 or give e because a lot people in the chat they believe they should never trade coly are you on the side never trade coly or you think you could trade KY or not I definitely on the camp that you can definitely trade ghouly like um listen do I I I really like Kaden ghouly as a player and I I think he has potential to have like a 15-year career in the NHL but it’s it’s one of those things like Montreal you have to play the cards that are dealt and Montreal just has such a huge surplus of left-handed defenseman that in order to really like I like I was saying guys there’s two phases there’s the collecting assets and then once you’re once you’ve collected all the whole bunch you’re never you’re never drafting with the idea of drafting to build a team right there like you have a certain criteria of what kind of players you want to draft in terms of character speed like you know there’s certain characteristics that you look for but you’re not drafting by position or by skill at the draft you just choose the best players you can and then when you’re finished that phase you go on to phase two which is to put all the puzzle pieces together and build it so if once they get into phase two in order to get the top six one of the puzzle pieces they’re missing is a high-end scoring Winger to go on that second line and on the first unit power play that is a left-and shot that is the piece that they don’t have and it’s very hard to get so in order to go get that though from another place you have to trade something of equal value and something that you’re willing to give up and here you go I will make you a threat right now Patrick kayen KY for Brady katuk I don’t think Ottawa would do that but no no but Ottawa who said the FED would never trade Jano yeah Ottawa is so deep at left-handed defenseman though that I don’t think that would be a fit for them you know like they already have they arguably right now they’re looking at trading Chan because they have too many left-handed defens no but they may be trade give up on Shabbat maybe I think it’s more likely that they trade my point behind that that’s what I’m talking about right I’m talking about if you get a player like at that level a guy can uh physical everything that’s what I’m talking about H because you said you should never trade or don’t talk about K trade kiden KY have a player like that I would consider to open up my my door at at least listen to get a like bir cat Shook on my team you’d be crazy not to make that trade in particular but you know even if it’s not to the level of of Brady kitu right like uh even if it’s like a 35 goal scorer that that is big and can play the right way then yeah you make that you make that trade but again not because we don’t think ghouly is not going to be an NHL player and be potentially like he could be a captain on another team probably right and I know that’s hard to let go but guys you have to give to get back and one thing that you have to also consider guys kayen ghouly he’s never played a full season in the NHL right he’s been kind of injury-prone so it’s a bit of a some might say like there’s a huge risk to trading somebody like Kaden gly but is it is it also a huge risk to keep him because he’s had a lot of injuries um and to be honest like the one critique that I would have of Kaden ghouly is he’s a bit Reckless with how he carries himself on the ice like he often positions himself in very vulnerable ways like he’s not always straight like he’s always leaning forward and he’s he often when he goes into the boards like checking people he’s he’s sometimes in a weird position and I just he just looks like somebody that’s going to get injured a lot in his career I hope that’s not the case but so for for all those reasons I would be willing to trade Kaden ghouly uh for the right player yeah that’s the point behind that that’s that that we talk about that that’s at the end of day that’s uh you don’t go lower right and again uh the only way you trade uh catchup Marco is maybe you get K as first round pick maybe you get something in return right that’s that’s the point they will open up there and again we could I I talk about him uh with that maybe we can consider the top best uh players in NHL at 24 25 years old the younger and look about what we kind of try we can get it’s not coming my head right now but I’m just thinking about that way that’s the reason you can trade possible uh like if you’re if you’re Montreal like a good let’s say you were to go to Winnipeg and say hey I I’m really interested in Roy M who’s the guy for um the US I said his name earlier uh the guy that played in in the US team Rory um m m mcgutter whatever what’s his name again oh I know you talk about uh M um mro te or something like that yeah yeah I can’t remember his name but that guy you know like so rag D mcti mcti yeah yeah Rory mcor so if you were to Target a guy like that who to me is even a better power forward than cutter go to be honest um that like to me that’s the kind of guy that Rory mcgutter that like that’s something that I would Target right like Winnipeg is a team that is uh right now first in the NHL they might want to take a run here so again not not just that player in particular but you’re looking for opportunities like that right like you’re looking for somebody that’s been drafted in the top 10 over the last three years and you’re looking for a good tradeit partner but there’s no question that Montreal at this point uh this summer they’re going to start looking to utilize the assets that they have and try to uh try to move it in a way so that they can because it’s all about getting the puzzle pieces that you’re missing coach and I invite anyone in the chat like what’s your opinion like what pieces are Montreal missing if you look at Montreal’s lineup tell us if you disagree with us but like the big thing that they’re missing because they have slaf kovsky who who’s going to be playing top left on the left wing on the top line but after that you don’t really have that many left-handed shots and if you look at Montreal’s power play coach you’ve talked about this before you’ve got Coffield for one timer on one side but you’ve got nobody for a one-timer on the left side slavoski I think he’s going to be more somebody that plays either in front of the net or as the bumper he’s not somebody that’s going to be one time in the puck so somebody who can play on your second line uh maybe be like a 35 goal scorer to supplement what Coffield is going to do to me that’s the big piece that they’re missing you know you could argue that they don’t have an elite Center but those are really hard to to get guys so I think we we’ve already understood that you know it’s going to be a committee by center it’s going to be Suzuki Doc and you know whoever kind of wins out that third that third position I think that’s kind of what it’s looking for in terms of centers but guys curious like you know you can’t just say top six Talent you can’t just say we need another Elite like what’s like what specific style of player because are they going to need because at at this point this is where you’re starting to build out your roster starting to construct it so you you know and again this is the big disadvantage that Ken Hughes has is that he hasn’t been able to see doc and new hook play a full season so it’s going to be challenging for him to analyze the team he has and know exactly what he needs but it sounds based on his interview that he did that that’s kind of The Next Step that they’re going to be doing right is they’re going to start putting the the Pu puzzle pieces together to really understand um what what they need to move out this season so should be an interesting draft coach I I I I think it’s going to be another rock and roll kind of draft for Ken Hughes this year um do you trade Ki for Jordan kiru 27 go 37 goal 75 points 73 point and the last this seison 24 years old no he’s a right-hand shot we have too many right-hand shots he’s a right shoter yeah yeah I think we really really need a left-and shot coach like we have so many right-hand shots but can fix on your top six yeah like I I like Jordan kyou for sure as a player but you know again like you’re going to have like almost five out of your top six players that are all right-hand shots your power play is going to look like garbage like you need you need some variety there you know like uh yeah but you don’t have it no shorter right shot on the on your top six celd Coffield that’s it yeah that’s so but that’s what I’m saying so line with Kobe doc sure yeah that could work but I I still think the pressing need because we have so many right-hand shots like you know you have yonan you have Gallagher you have Anderson like those are still guys that are going to be around for the next couple years here right you got Beck who’s also a right-hand shot a lot of uh you know a lot of the players that we have coming up are right-hand shots so I think you you really need to get a leftand shot Lefty said that you can have a wion back for a second round pick JM you willing to trade Co carfield for K GOI I would yeah guys like I love Cole Coffield but I think Cole Coffield is a very one-dimensional player right now in the chat guys all right and you Marco Patrick Le you believe K is a p a a quarterback power play like Quinn ues or any defenseman on that level you guys in that chat do you believe kayen Coley is that kind of players he believe he is going to be like marov no not a chance not a chance like he could potentially be a serviceable player on your second unit power play for sure the reason s we hasn’t really given him that chance right now is because they don’t want to overwhelm him like he’s he’s already playing a lot of minutes you can already see at some points this season like it’s a little overwhelming for him like you know he’s playing very well but at some points you can see especially playing with Baron Baron is is not the steadiest at times as well too so um maybe one day he’ll play second unit power play but yeah I like he’s a good he can do good Rush Plays but he’s not really somebody who is going to be uh whipping the puck around um you know in a in a power play play uh I don’t think for me I see him like a different taste yeah he’s a good he’s a good Rush defenseman he’s got his skating is amazing he has good offensive reads so he can he he’s a very good Rush defenseman but in terms of creative plays on the power play like you know deceptive no he’s not deceptive at all right like I’ve never seen him deak out someone which is what you need to do on the power play you need to you need to beat guys right find out now he a good players right but to be that kind of play because Monto that’s what they missing I think for me that’s what you don’t trait Lane Hudson no Lane Hudson is yeah like we we said this last show Coach like it’s you never say that somebody is you know Untouchable but for me Lane hudman is as close as possible to Untouchable because Montreal doesn’t have another player like that in their whole organization arguably since Andre marov maybe Guston which came in uh on the 2021 run in the playoffs he was you know a pretty good uh Power Play quarterback but the problem with him is uh you could barely play him five on five right but since markof you haven’t had somebody that uh has been at that level in terms of being a Power Play specialist so Lane Hudson is going to be critical for sure and the good news uh guys we don’t have to be too worried about him he’s a Chicago Blackhawks fan so he he shouldn’t it’s not going to be a cutter goia thing where he used to be a penguins fan and he didn’t want to play for the for the flyer so it should be okay yeah I’m sorry about that one there uh question for the chat he said do you think mono is gonna be a go tender number one we talked about this on the last show like uh I think what makes a good uh number one between a an NHL goalie and even an AHL goalie is just consistency because somebody in the AHL can come up and steal a game in the NHL but they just can’t do it for many many games in a row so I think for Samuel monmo there’s no question last year he proved that he was an NHL goalie and now he’s proving that he has the potential to be a number one goal tender in the NHL the only data that we don’t have is can he do it over several seasons seasons and can he do it over and we’ve said this before you’re not going to see many goalies playing 60 70 games in the NHL anymore it’s just not the reality so what is the definition of a number one goal goenda closer so once we see montambo be and right now with a three-goal rotation it’s very hard for Montreal to prove that out so um I would say let’s see monmo over two years play 55 60 games and if he’s able to maintain that kind of trajectory and that kind of performance then you’ll have your answer but an interesting question coach is if monmo does um continue playing at that rate does he become one of Canada’s best goenda candidate for the next Olympics that’s another interesting thing other than Carter Hart right yeah absolutely right Patrick I don’t think we understand the K is way up there as far as value again K is a great hockey player behind that Patrick it’s just be with him we have excellent defenseman we have odson we have um angstrom uh we have U strouble um we I miss we have a ton of plus left defenseman and they could draft a play maybe better at him at the the NHL draft so we to get something huge in NHL and return you have to give something like that a guy like Ki if you want to go there Mont have the uh have the the a maybe to have a lot of players right now uh I think the the example is like people are I know exactly what people are going to say when I say this but I still think it’s valid the same reason that Montreal was able to trade Romanov to get Doc is the same reason they can afford to trade ghouly now I’m not saying ghouly is not as I’m not saying that Romanov is as good as gly maybe ghouly has a like a longer career and maybe he has a little bit more upside than Romanov but the same it’s the same concept guys if you okay with trading Romanov because they knew that they had gly coming well I think what really changed things is what we’ve seen from struble right like if we didn’t see what we saw from struble so far maybe I would have a little bit more hesitation about trading gly but at the end of the day it’s it’s it’s just one of those things like you you have the cards that you have you have to play the cards that you have um you just have too many of these guys they’re gonna have to move so you you can either move Harris or you know Jacky or somebody a little bit further down in value but you’re not going to get anything for these guys there I guess that is one strategy coach like there’s players that we’ve talked about that you could take a risk on you know and maybe you get lucky instead of so here’s another strategy coach if you’re not willing to spend big and use use a big asset to go and get a like a for sure Elite you know kind of left-handed scoring guy you can go and you can take a risk like you can try to go trade I’ve talked about cev in Los Angeles you could try to go get uh PUD Cen in Vancouver like maybe somebody who has you know was trade was drafted pretty high but hasn’t really kind of broken out for whatever reason they didn’t get the opportunity and that that kind of player maybe you can trade a Harris for or one of those guys but you’re not it’s it’s not like a like bent used to say it’s not like a PlayStation trade where you can combine a whole bunch of players and all that value of all these players equals one good player from the other team that’s that rarely happens so either you’re going to trade one one of your top assets to get a quality Elite asset or you can continue to try and take risks on players like a pod Cen like a cev like a walstrom in uh New York Islanders like those kinds of players that they they were projected to be high-end finishers in the NHL but for whatever reason they just haven’t been able to do it uh zus I would put in that category too right so I for me you know coach the the trade so I I’m not sure would do ghouly for zigris but what was the the the trade that you said it was Baron and Harris and a second for zis I think he was second have to look again but I think he was so if if you’re talking about that level of player like if it was Baron and a second round pick or Baron Harris and a second round pick I don’t think Anaheim would do that because they don’t need that those kinds of guys but if it was something like that then yeah I would take a risk on zis because maybe Mal say we can turn him around but I wouldn’t be willing to sacrifice gouie uh cuz I think you can use that asset to get something better in my opinion all right Patrick Tim Tim Suza well I don’t think you’re getting him uh for for for K Kaden gly that’s for sure no he’s talking about the top three and 2020 uh oh Jake serson or Kaden Coley um I would probably take Sanderson to be honest um a little bit more offensive upside and it seems like he’s been a little more reliable in terms of his injury situation um I think ghouly has a little bit more snarl in his game like he’s a little bit meaner um you know a little bit more physical and probably more leadership um but I have I don’t know what it is I have a little bit of concern about gul’s um longevity and his uh his ability to stay healthy Jack Quinn okay COI Jack Quinn from the Buffalo Sabres like the uh or yeah um no it’s not something I would do he’s again a right-hand shot not very big I don’t think he compliments the top six that we have very well MCO you play 30 he go with monal right away yeah Jack Quinn okay but you’re just talking about go I’m talking about winning a Stanley Cup coach but you need to score right like that yeah but he’s what like 5’11 yeah but you’re going to have F you have to have forward at that level yeah have no it’s it’s a guy now with the accurancy shoulder and the net now so you have have those kind of player like that they look about who win they don’t have all the players like 63 64 yeah but we already have like at least three players in our top six that are under six feet or or kayen Coley again it’s another right-hand shot you’re it’s like all your all the players you’re telling me are all right-hand shots yeah but not by point for the draft do you select Lucas ran Jack Quinn before Ken KY in a draft well Yeah well yeah of course I would draft Lu is number four Jack Jack Quinn is number eight yeah yeah okay so you’re asking me if like in terms of Drafting order of course those yeah that’s why we talk in the chat okay well yeah yeah like of in terms of draft order but we’re I thought we were talking about the Habs and who’s going to fit in the roster that we have if you’re just talking about yeah but guys you have to make the playoff first of all everybody want C is GNA be great and the playoff he have to make the playoff first of all before they get it become uh about that I’m just talking because Patrick said earlier if they do the the draft 2020 KY will be number third in the draft now he said I forgot Souza so you’ll be number four I believe for me ran is better Sanders and the draft I’m talking about Sanderson is better uh Jack Quinn is better I will be really careful about all perer askar and I would tell you I would take Anon londel before cooling I know about lundell and I’m not sure about Quinn either I’d say like so gly was drafted 18th K was 16 and behind him guys M could get Dawson Mur by the way yeah so I think may he might he might in a redraft come up in a little bit higher maybe like 13th but I don’t think he’s coming in top 10 I don’t think he’s coming in top 10 yeah um it depends for me I don’t see K in the top five on that and it’s a draft mle to five no I don’t think so I don’t think so maybe it squeezes on the top 10 it depends on depends on the team and what they need you know uh that’s another coach like see what what I find fascinating coach cuz we’ve been we’ve been you know chatting and going back and forth thinking about what players Montreal could Target and like I said almost every single player that we’ve talked about is a right-handed shooter and when you really look over the last four or five I need a right I need a right one at my on my top six again but it’s not your first priority coach you already have a scoring W like your primary scoring Winger is a right-hand shot you need a secondary scoring like for your goal scoring to be on the left hand side for the power play I’m not saying that eventually you don’t need to find a better finisher in your top six than Josh Anderson or Brendan Gallagher or yonen but it’s not your top priority your top priority in my opinion I just want a plug with t look don’t you have P yeah yeah so if you find a play commentary with pen with carfield on the right side I have no problem with that part over there mon have a second shot power play number two they have all in right here yeah so but again you forgot the other piece in that equation of that line it’s krier a leftand shot I have yeah but he’s not he’s not going to be a shooter like that coach he’s gonna be great he’s a right great shoter on the left side he’s not and then after that I’m going to get another play I can switch FL is my number two it’s for me it’s not matter a right shoulder I need a right shoulder and the left shoulder if I have the best talented players I would take my best whatever is a right or a left no matter for me I I I disagree coach like by the way catch just scor a goal now so I just let you know I would Val is going up yeah this is not the right right time to to go trade for him listen coach I got to jump off though I I stayed a bit later than I was supposed to first of all M thanks so much to stop by tonight uh lot you but we know it would be a very interesting chat tonight we about 30 more minute and it went to stay here so I will stay alive here but Marco I wish you an amazing great night thank you we did this at the last minute me and Marco we talk about this at 7 o’clock tonight so really appreciate you pop up and going show you going see you uh tomorrow night and then the next day one mon 12 play again the final score flers final store I think uh I had I had Philly winning so I’ll say um say three 3 to1 Philadelphia what what is the score 3-1 Philly oh 3-1 you said two and one this week right yeah Philly was the one that we were losing I would go me over time three to2 is that what you predicted the first time yeah well I would predict the score I never predict the win the team I did three game and December M go back to back to back with a final score but I never said who’s going to win the win the game that’s impressive all right guys from oxbury was with us tonight we appreciate a lot to be with us and N is GNA be in the bed they need some can score R is more the game he you go that’s Chris about that one there the only thing I will said to you Chris my only concern guy every PL is coming from Florida I’m worry about one things and my worry about that guys is because barav make them better remember like Pascal dupu with bisberg remember Chris kunet with pisb remember Al sort with Chicago remember Steve lammer with Chicago sometime a player beside them make them better and I said they are not talented players Chris but I would love to have some that but I think mon is still one more year before they get UF fre about that um I always learn from coach Mar you welcome Larry I always a pleasure to have you aboard by the way thanks for the chat Marco is a great Marco was nice to be with us tonight for sure uh Patrick R point and without power play time is a big deal to not play on the power play one it’s time to look at this is 2020 Point extra Patrick uh not really Patrick uh with the mon Canadian about that uh Patrick last year right now is complete is full season he has 28 point and 80 game M Patrick he is minus 21 by the way uh Patrick uh Ken Coy minus 21 play 20 minute uh what is with all this fun GSM understand where Marco is going abin thank for the chat Marco Mar go go GSM uh tomor 4 to2 uh honestly I I think mon can win tomorrow three to2 my only concern the FL got destroyed the last game what it that’s a bad game I think you’ll be uh very uh hry and hungry tomor at home but I think M can find a way to get a w tonight tomorrow night uh for sure uh king of gamer so far I have watched every team play at least time this season in a team that look like the star Kings nice jet I think you should add the pan there Kings about that uh Get Next Level the team van I think the van are there so not just said the O first line I agree with you about that one Chris I like Al SEC the score 40 go one year I been great there uh Patrick again Patrick I don’t see Ken KY play on the power play number one that’s my point behind that uh for kenon KY I don’t think so he has the the Mobil the mobility of Quin use Patrick I don’t think so he has the same style of Victor Edmund I don’t think so Ken Ki is the same style like Kell mcard and and I don’t think so we have a powerly shot like a power shot like Noah dson for the New York Islanders on my opinion um I believe that’s the one um I I don’t see that one uh after that or I can go um you know that welcome in the house thanks for yeah n 11:00 maximum the for Patrick forward I agree with you about that Patrick forward I completely agree with you Dan Asam is in the house Dan you win be won again tonight Mr Green Philip Jackson is in the house tonight R doesn’t proove you consy King they are consistent C King about that they are coming just behind the Boston brones you have to put the P opinion for sure that movement not there yet for the power play I agree with you stop putting saying mod this is a biggest mistake you can do K is K yeah but to be a quarterback Patrick you have to be that level make sense this is the point he need to be that level like he need to be a Chris Le tank he need to be a Eric Carson he need to be at that level to be that power play mon does not have any one of them right now we have a secondary like Mike medicine Mike medicon get point with there because he’s more mobile he have a better hands he have a better Vision But Ken Ki does not have that kind of skill with the monal Canadian he’s not going to get that level with the Mont Canadian it’s not that this level to play we have super shot number one of the night Mr lar L did it [Music] again lar L [Music] reverse thank you so much Mr lar La did it again ladies and gentlemen cons to contribute at the show to be with with us everybody tonight right I appreciate that um I don’t think so um is like Drew DY for the L Kings all right um who where I can go uh I don’t think so is like Zack weni uh for the Columbus B jaet uh I don’t think so is like Josh morci for the wi jet that’s my point behind that uh Patrick wait mon Co win tonight Mitch yes Co play great now K is not the same style like he’s not the same style power play if he was so good Patrick like you said why they don’t use him on the best power play they have a reason behind that I’m sure they have a reason why they don’t use K on unit number two he cannot beat Baron you have a reason behind that why is not there yeah you consider him to be the best power player for the M unit number one I believe he’s going to increasing his number at the point on power on Peak on power play but is not a fit to to distribute the park left and right like other players and NHL that level we don’t have yet a montal we need to have one is it lardon I think he is but you guys you believe he too small play NH sh but I believe lardon is the answer for what he looking for it could be K and and and and K right now I don’t know but I don’t see him to be that level players play as a power play Patrick said that right he’s a really great hoty player pan win tonight 5 to one the probably can be worse this right now Patrick about that K do you think what is Patrick same thing why they don’t use uh Joan arm po play why they don’t use Bron get it get it number one right because everybody have their specific role everybody have their skill and talented it’s just like you just try to try uh it’s not that way they really believe they have more uh if was not out good night you think the are good enough to win the same Cup this year I don’t think so then uh and I thought we said yes but uh I don’t think so Zev is in the house for that again I was leaving out angstrom and that conversation uh Nicholas this is the underrated players um Nicholas about um angstrom I think for me I never talk about him because I believe it could be the one can step up and to pick up the top four for the montal Canadian uh necklace they don’t use C because they need to Res his to limit his cost abnation about that uh is C you talking about the contract abin or you talk about his his prodction on the I on the PK uh Bron Go De almost every year they do team M also Panthers make one run which at the list the D they make it pass second run for the playoff they are good team but need a playoff experience uh they’ve been there before that King I I believe for me the Panthers right now are one of the top five best team in NHL King are well balanced the goldar defenseman and the forward uh King on my opinion uh about that you welcome if you’re a Oran this is the place to be thanks so much lar very kind of you you is sit sharks and the same way L mono for the contract about that not having Mon and the first in the net tomorrow is just a very bad message Patrick uh about that no they have to run a three go tender Patrick this is the reason why uh the pass has to the park on R for sure M right um for that are you telling me Patrick like Rick bangal who said to me do you believe the they would tell to the coach don’t use the players on that situation because he’s going to get a higher contract Sal cap do you believe any team in NHL guys going to say to the coach hey don’t use him on power play or don’t use him on special team don’t let play over 60 Minute because his next contract is going to be higher do you really believe this is a conversation between the coach and the general manager Patrick not not not lose anything by putting somebody else medicon at the point on the PO play the is bower I think he’s getting better uh Power Play Patrick with 18.3% is not perfect but this is what they have right now they don’t have anybody else um Patrick uh what do you do if you are the wall you are on the play window and I have no way to get through your Z because a start after start the season but the key behind that King is to see where you at right what kind of team you are are you a team really a top five in NHL are you team at the at the they are 13 14 15 16 you already know uh like uh I don’t know if you are I I don’t know the the blues example it can the blues become um Can the blues will will go to buying plers but they know they’re not going to make it so those team I don’t think so they were going to buy a lot maybe a fix or o that just gave a reward for the for the players but I don’t don’t take so anything else um but we’ll see okay whatever Gorden does should be interesting abin yes is a conversation conation about that amination I’m not sure uh yes Mar the pentos guys are really good team um they are really well balanced from my opinion I I really believe they are right now guys the Panthers right now are one point behind the Boston BRS understanding and they have play one game more uh they have right now um five point six point five point in front of the Toronto at Toronto play a two game less uh on the Wild Card uh and the in the league guys the fli panther are number six and NHL at 54 point and they have one point behind the col at more game uh overall so it’s a team can run 65 winning percentage this year um so I believe for me play pan are the same conversation like the aanm the Boston Bron the KX the wi Jets since you see that guys number one the jet number two canx who said the beginning year the Boston be a top three in NHL that’s crazy uh the King guy dropped all the way to 11 but they play only 37 game they won the next two they won the last tonight guys the Kings after they take the lead to Z they gave three goal uh two and over two and third period and one and over time the last three two uh about that uh for that one L Lucho welcome in the house Mr Lucho thanks to be with our show Madison is gonna bad on power play and PK should be playing St b instead uh only reason I can think about imagine you buy a a tiet tomorrow for the app gameo is having a bad game is can you get a found about that but it’s not the way you do that Patrick right uh because you can get there whatever happened Patrick a month ago did they gave three bad gold so what you do uh you are are you going to give back the the money to the the the the fence too it’s applied to everyone um who have a better record on the road this sh Patrick is it primo mono can you check the startat Patrick who has a better record on the road Primo or mono Patrick just answer to that question Patrick I’ll give you five minutes go get the stat right now how many time Primo lost a game this year on the road what is goal again average on the road Patrick primo and then how much is it what is his gold gold save percentage Primo on the road Patrick and then so in the time you do that then go get monmo check is is record on the route and check after that what is save percentage on the road is is go again average on the road Patrick this this you want to know I can tell you exactly the number Patrick if you want to know that I will tell you exactly that Tri m right now you need to play and mon Saturday and you need to win to prove to all the fans mono is a s go number one in NHL right so that’s what you need to be Saturday to be ready again them right all right you want to get there uh we’re going to get there mono guys on the road all right mono game log in 2023 24 so mono guy play 18 time this year he play one two three four five six seven game on the road mono he lost and over and shootout he lost uh a game against St Louis uh uh and then he went on the road again anahim and Columbus now is 211 then he lost and over time so it’s 212 and then he lost again on the road again Tempo is now is 222 and then finally it went again Dall star guys at 311 during that time guys is say percentage on the rout it’s been only one time over 9010 uh uh two time on the seven game um Patrick he has 853 he has 833 and he has 8 z z on the road three of the seven game Marco uh Patrick Mano as now let’s go with Primo on the road kayen Primo on the road so kayen Primo guys play on the road this year he play one two three four five game all right so I apologize because he lost the last game again he lost uh the last game on the road again K hurricane uh on that game now on the road he has one two three four and one on the road same percentage on the road 958 he has 93 39 he has 931 uh on the road three of the five game he play the under game is a 905 only his last start is at 867 again car hurricane we know the the mon are not very good overall about that part there that’s the reason Patrick is on the is on the between the pipe tomorrow is the best goer for the M Canan on the road this year m city want to try to win the game over there sose you can put anybody C penny to against you have going a chance to win you have the best goer Sam mono he has to play again the Edmonton ERS Saturday I can wait to see his performance now again Edmonton uh Patrick I I disagree with you Primo on the road is not at 50% uh he is exactly at five uh five game is exactly at 75% Patrick on the road now monmo guys on seven game he has only three good start on the road Patrick on that one so I don’t know we’re coming down how about that I cannot in love with that play your heart will be always broken Gary Ducks Patrick stand outside the stadium said mono is played by Primo is played down by buy tickets about that one over there uh for that one over there uh but know that’s the reason he play one night Patrick that’s exactly what Mar use Primo Primo is not going to play at home not going to play at home now if you want to use mono T against San Jose to get him a game an easy game and use him again uh Mr Kane after checking start all three go mono is your starter and it has to continue to consistency is better Primo but he will not get any better Primo only as a start what is mono record visit Contender Roy uh here we go um now we have a better record because the last two game uh uh but um Primo again the team in a playoff vus heas and Sh out uh heas he beat the Boston Bruns one elas again uh Tempa on the playoff heas the Kings itas he beat Islanders so is record again a container guys is 322 overall but at the end of the day he play only one two 3 4 5 six game of the 39 again the player and the again the team and the playoff so honestly is 1 two three uh 31 is uh 41 42 421 is record again the best team in NHL but again is only play uh seven game of the his 18 start 18 game honestly have 17 starter game uh I agree with you King about that is a team player and what we are talking about is G it’s hard to J mono again a coner right now because we are rebuilding team King uh about that it’s about consistency at the end of the night that’s the most important thing guys is a consistency consistency consistency that’s what you’re looking for for the goali Le uh whatever who they are they have to perform uh at that level the CES the brones guy two to2 the Emon is only winning 2-1 against Chicago Blackhawks by the way and the Jet Are Winning 5- Z again or win tonight 5 again Blue Jacket guys do you think y would move a goalie before the traded line uh are going to get really three for the season for me I believe it will keep out three but uh he said on the TV last night he will try to move one of the three um it look like he doesn’t want to trade for trade he ex he’s wait for to get the right package deal I would not be surprised at the traded line he become a team where he can become a third party on friend trait because you have $5 million to spend uh possible he can trade at Jake Adam somewhere uh to um at a traded line and you’re going to get at a higher price compared right now uh but I see that manage Stay Together on till they can and U for me it’s not the right things because like Patrick he would like to get monmo tomorrow night he is right uh he need to play more monmo to honestly to know exactly if he a go number one or gold number two he he have to let play a Primo because Primo we need to be on the to have more gold as a go tender because we already know what Jake Cen is so this week for me you don’t dress Jake Aden that’s that’s it that’s that’s it that’s all uh I’ll be honest with you I don’t I I use to tomorrow Primo I use mono at San Jose you don’t travel monmo you keep monmo at home and then Saturday you use again monmo because you play again the best team one of the best team right now in NHL and mon but I will not use mono on the traveling play a game and then play again Saturday I would prefer to hand play Thursday night s the sharks get that mental game a good game get a w pop up pop up for the game for Sunday Saturday again return mono you play primo and that’s what that’s all you have your two two go tender Primo have to get good on the road and that gave a better chance overall mono play at home did not travel with the team Aden he become the backup on the bench he going wrong and that’s that’s all that will be the way I will gr that that this weekend but will be compet with mon for number one and has a great new is happened Martin welcome in the house don’t forget guys to click on lik do you believe you have any chance use make a shocking is moving mon missing no King no not at all I don’t see that I don’t see that um uh I don’t see that uh uh overall that demonstration can I make any on go how many to have sound like they have about problem with taking responsibility for the decision well the reason behind that lar they don’t win to lose anyone and for me I believe they will I wouldn’t be surprised they keep all of them together until to the end um but we see uh as Primo won at home yet or just on the road Mar I thinkk you good question I think did not but um H last last last he play only three game at home and he has gave uh 15 goal and three game he has an average of five 5. and a s percentage mark of 86 83 is about 84.5 or to 85.0 on the at home Mark I expect to be pick at the wer tomorrow I I feel the same way you’re welcome Larry uh how you describe a PL like a FR good um is a prototype of 200 players King he play on the second center of the minota W they triy to bring him like a Philip Dano I don’t see that level but this is a good pick as the third Center uh good on the face off and overall Mitch have a good night my friend we’re going to get there very soon uh it’s already 11:00 here too so um so that’s happening here guys about that if you don’t click on the like that’d be great guys what a great night of the H Nation uh tonight adnation podcast uh we did everything we want to talk about that’s the most important things we talk about David reaker kod GOI the trade for the Montreal uh we talk about ter agress and you guys you spoke you guys you tell us what you think you give us all your opinion about this that’s the beauty of the chat here we have friend opinion we see the gamees friendly and that’s make this chat very Greatful and thankful we want to thank Ron Kings moderator I think Lu and pop up at some point we thank all of them we want to thank Mar to be uh the co-host of the show a little bit earlier we want to thank uh many of you um be with us tonight we want to thank Mr lar for the Super Chat and do we see tonight I cannot remember uh for that one there uh for the Expo but a go Andy again Primo about that if you see him that way I would more more like the Woody fman of the The Mont Canadian have the good show again would you trade yes I would trade then if it’s possible for the M Canadian for sure uh for that here we go you are awesome you are amazing you are the best and remember you have greatness inside of you yes you have greatness inside of you yes you are the reason why we accept you every single night because you bring some great knowledge in in the chat tonight I have so many people to thanks it’s a pleasure to have you about Patrick by the way you never gave me your bet of the night I miss my friend uh so what I miss no problem have a good night Mr you’re welcome lar again we appreciate that be well be final winner only dominate your day fin will dominate the first app your 2024 until the next time my friend 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