Will the Patriots trade down in the draft? + Should they draft J.J. McCarthy? NFL Live debates

Will the Patriots trade down in the draft? + Should they draft J.J. McCarthy? NFL Live debates
Matt Miller, Ryan Clark and Dan Orlovsky weigh in on the likelihood the New England Patriots will trade down in the 2024 NFL Draft and discuss what the Denver Broncos should do with the No. 12 overall pick.
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0:00 Will the Patriots trade down?
2:15 Dan Orlovsky says the Patriots shouldn’t trade down
3:45 Ryan Clark thinks Drake Maye is a great pick for the Patriots
4:50 What will the Denver Broncos do with the No. 12 overall pick?
5:50 Adam Schefter joins to discuss the Broncos plans with the No. 12 pick
8:50 Should the Broncos look to draft Bo Nix instead of J.J. McCarthy?

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a patriot Source telling me our legacies
will be tied to what we decide at
quarterback I’m told they’re operating
with the mindset that unless you have a
long-term answer at the position you
can’t win this is unfamiliar territory
for the Patriots picking third overall
the highest pick in owner Robert Craft’s
31-year tenure why he’s called it the
most anticipated draft of his time and
one last thing the Patriots are
listening to trade offers but head coach
Gerard Mayo says it would take a bag for
them to move the pick and as of last
checkin no bag has arrived here in
Foxboro
Laura I love M re
the the bag ain’t there yet but let’s
say it does get there Matt Matt I’m
curious you you heard Mike Rees talking
about the possibility of a trade for New
England what do you see potentially for
them specifically moving down
yeah if they move down I think the
question is how far can you go and still
get one of the top quarterbacks in this
class and we saw something from the
Arizona Cardinal similar to this last
year they were on the clock they moved
from three they moved out and then here
they come rushing back up the board to
get the first offensive tackle and Paris
Johnson Jr so that’s kind of the model
that the New England Patriots would have
to follow now it is incredibly risky to
do this no team has ever traded out and
then back up to get the quarterback but
can you trade back if you like JJ m kthy
as much as you like Drake May then I
think there is the opportunity to do
this especially if you feel like the
Minnesota Vikings are going to come up
to get Drake May who they’ve been
connected to throughout this draft
process so you feel like hey we could
slide back a little bit the problem is
you do have the New York Giant sitting
right there at pick six as South pal
mentioned that you have to think if a
quarterback’s there would the Giants
take them so again it’s risky but if the
patriots feel like they need to
capitalize on the draft Capital this
year trading back and then trading back
up is certainly one way to do it it’s
not how I would do it I think if you’re
take a quarterback you just stay at
three and take them but they definitely
have some opportunities
here yeah if I was in New England I
would stay at three and I would take
Drake May because it’s the perfect
situation for him to go sit develop
jacobe brassette can go play and kind of
lead this team through really the 2024
season two things number one what’s the
realistic timeline of expectation from
the owners we got to remember the craft
family were were the greatest Dynasty in
the history of the NFL they know One Way
win and they haven’t won in like 3 or
years so do they sit there with the um
necessary patience to make sure that
they take Dre and and if I’m D mayo and
my staff I’m sitting there taking Drake
Mayo walking into their office and
saying this young man is not playing
until 20 2025 or fire me the second
thing is this with the JJ McCarthy
attachment this is what you know give me
a like maybe intrigued is does JJ
McCarthy either good or bad remind them
of Tom Brady so much I know there’s the
Michigan Tha I don’t know JJ that well
but I I do know that there’s this
mentality and perfectionist and crazy
work ethic does the building sit there
and go we love that we want that again
or does the building sit there and go we
got tired of that and that was you know
like part of the reason why we moved on
correct yeah it’s well there’s some the
craft family still being there I just
don’t know if they um if they want that
style again quarterback wise at least
Personality yeah I mean listen if that
personality got me six championships he
could come back here and do whatever he
want hell you should be looking for a
Tom Brady doppelganger if you’re the New
England Patriots because you tried it
without him and you kept the coach and
we all see how that went for this team
but I do believe that this could be a
good spot for Drake May and I think one
of the underrated points that Dan made
was the point of Gerard Mayo having to
walk into the Craft’s office and say if
you’re expecting him to play and you
want me to draft him then fire me right
now because that shouldn’t be the plan
for Drake May and you have the perfect
quarterback in jacobe brassette you
don’t have a quarterback in jacobe
brassette that’s trying to prove to the
world that he could be the franchise
quarterback for the New England Patriots
he knows exactly who he is and that can
allow Drake May to develop as the New
England Patriots building infrastructure
around him to be successful mhm it could
play out really really well guys just to
set the table for tomorrow we’ve been
saying this one and two feels
predictable right Caleb Williams Jaden
Daniels at three it gets fascinating
from then on out this first round could
be one to remember with all the
potential trades they’ve even gotten to
where the wide receivers will be taken
there’s tackles I’m trying to not hit
you like you hit me go to Denver where
the Broncos hold the 12th overall pick
and they need a quarterback the question
is how far up do they have to get to
grab save JJ McCarthy or do they wait B
Nicks he could be there even past 12 did
they trade back Michael pennick Jr he
might still be there pton Manning had
this to say about JJ
McCarthy had a conversation with JJ
McCarthy the other day uh I texted him
Stoke after the National Championship uh
I never met him but uh we invited him to
our to our football camp and like
harball wouldn’t let him miss a workout
so he didn’t get to go and so I just
reached out and said hey man
congratulations you know wish you the
best of luck in your next chapter and I
guess he thought it was a prank because
he never he never called me back so I
texted him Monday you know from the same
number and he’s like oh it really is you
I thought that was somebody was pranking
me and so I just kind of wish him luck
and he said he I love to ask you some
questions so he called me back and uh
boy impressed to talk to and uh I know
Denver’s very interested in him and
sounded like you know this is a place
he’d love to come to so uh but it’s a
little bit out of his
control there’s a lot of info there that
we’ll get to uh but first of all
everyone answers Adam scher’s text back
except maybe Aaron roders either way
Adam what are you hearing about the
plans for the Broncos at
quarterback Laura the issue here is
supply and demand and essentially right
now we know there are quarterbacks that
could go 1 two 3 6 11 12 13 there aren’t
by my estimation seven quarterbacks with
first round grades so at what point if
you’re Denver is there going to be a
quarterback there at number 12 whoever
that is that you believe is worth taking
at the 12th overall spot yes Shawn
Payton said in a perfect world they’d
love to see if they can add a
quarterback they just don’t know if the
value will match up with where they’re
picking right now so they wait to see if
one of these guys can slide through to
get to them the thing to keep in mind
here also it’s going to be a little
challenging for Denver to come up they
don’t have a second round draft pick
they’re without that pick so it limits
their ability to come up they’re kind of
helpless waiting to see what happens as
they wait to see which quarterbacks fall
to number
12 yeah Adam that’s a really important
note and let’s actually dive into the
availability of McCarthy to the Broncos
with smarter picks brought to you by
nerd wallet the smart pick for teams
picking outside the top 10 is to move up
you’re going to have a chance to get the
Michigan quarterback of course if the
Broncos St P at 12 there’s only a 4%
chance he’s still on the board according
to the ESPN analytics Draft Day
predictor after the six pick it drops
off to less than 50% of a chance that
he’s still available uh Matt the Broncos
would need to give up a lot to go from
12 to get up to get McCarthy and Adam
even talking about there they don’t have
a whole lot to give up is he worth
giving whatever they do have to give up
for no I don’t think so and that’s not a
sight to JJ McCarthy I was at the prod
day where people have said this is the
greatest prod day work that I’ve ever
seen I I like JJ McCarthy a lot as a
person and a player but he’s my number
19 overall Prospect for the 2024 NFL
draft and we’re talking about because
the Broncos don’t have that second round
pick to go to five which is I think
where you realistically have to get to
get in front of the New York Giants to
go to Five is going to be very expensive
for a team that they have maybe been
shopping cland Sutton their best wide
receiver Garrett BS their left tackle is
coming up on a free agent year this year
so they have a lot of holes pass rusher
is certainly one of them as well in this
defense so they have a lot of holes for
a team to be giving up those type of
assets and I’ll throw this in here real
quick one thing I’ve heard a lot of
teams are very comfortable with Michael
pinnick Jr from Washington if they feel
like they can’t go up to get McCarthy
like sitting here today getting texts
from teams saying we like pinnick as
much as we like McCarthy if the cost is
that high to go get
him yeah Matt real quick question um
what do you like better the Denver
Broncos having to go up to five for
McCarthy and maybe not being crazy
expensive or then dropping back to like
say the late teens and getting B
Knicks if it’s a guarantee that I can
get b Knicks I like that better I’m I’m
always going to take more picks right
I’m a prospect guy I’m always going to
want more opportunities to get great
players and going back from 12 to like
you said maybe you slide back to 17 with
Jacksonville who wants to come up and
get a premier corner or a wide receiver
I think that is much better value and
then you’re adding picks either this
year or next year to where you can
restock that cupboard a little
bit yeah see I I I kind I agree with the
sentiment it’s going to be probably too
expensive I just think that JJ and Bo
are on different tiers as quarterbacks
so I I think it’s going to be difficult
for them to get to where they want to
for JJ McCarthy I just think it’s more
likely that they will end up having to
trade back and get B Knick later in that
first round maybe in that late teens
area because I think that too many teams
are going to be interested in going up
and get JJ McCarthy with more ammo I
don’t know if JJ McCarthy is going to
give Jim Harbaugh half of his te because
there’s something that I’m missing from
the film to the way that we’re talking
about drafting or giving up picks for
this player do I like JJ McCarthy
absolutely I don’t drive far for food
that I like right I don’t go to movie
theaters for shows that I like for
movies that I like if I don’t love it I
ain’t moving for it I ain’t putting an
effort for it and to watch JJ McCarthy’s
film when I’ve seen the the Andrew Lux
playing simar offenses it ain’t the same
y’all and and and as you say that JJ
McCarthy is on a different tier than b
Knicks I believe he’s on a slightly
different tier but the the the stare
that JJ McCarthy is standing on with
both feet B Knicks has one of his feet
on it and the other one is off of the
freaking ground and so to me if you can
move back and get b knck or even get B
knck at 12 I don’t give up what it takes
to get JJ
McCarthy now yeah I agree I I agree I
agree well the other thing too I mean
you you kind of said this too I mean the
Vikings like if they didn’t go up and
get Drake May did they try to get JJ
McCarthy it just may end up being for
the Broncos too much of a price to pay
but either way you got to think the
calls are going to be crazy inside those
trash rooms
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