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Jim Harbaugh’s LOVE for J.J. McCarthy, NFL Draft QB with BIG potential, Rodgers vs. Brady | 3 & Out



John Middlekauff reacts to Jim Harbaugh’s intense support for Michigan QB J.J. McCarthy ahead of the 2024 NFL Draft. He also discusses why the Kansas City Chiefs are stuck on not paying for their own new stadium, why the New York Jets with Aaron Rodgers won’t reach the level of success Tom Brady accomplished with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, which QB in the NFL Draft has the highest upside, and much more.

0:00 // Intro
0:41 // Jim Harbaugh believes in J.J. McCarthy
3:13 // Should the Victory formation be banned?
5:13 // Should game suspensions be at the end of the season not the start?
6:59 // Why the Chiefs will not pay for their own new stadium
10:16 // Up tick in popularity of women’s sports
13:36 // Why the Jets with Rodgers aren’t as good as the Bucs were with Brady
16:09 // Why won’t Malcolm Butler say why he was benched in the Super Bowl?
19:40 // Advice on becoming a scout
21:49 // What young QB has the highest upside?

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hit me up with a question listening to
people talk about Harbaugh talk up JJ as
much as he is something jumped into my
mind what are your thoughts on what are
your thoughts on that Harbaugh knows
JJ’s the real
deal and is trying to push up his stock
so that he’s gone before he gets to
Denver and or Oakland
and has the ability to get him in the
draft if he’s gone by three or four then
he doesn’t have to worry about facing
him twice a
year I think you you’re already like two
steps forward I think he just
legitimately on the surface believes in
the guy how would he
not the
guy I mean had two of the most powerful
years of the guy’s 20 plus year coaching
career they won a national championship
at Michigan which obviously Harbaugh is
as Michigan man as you can get and
finally won him a championship as a
coach so I think when he’s hyping him up
if you’ve watch the Chargers are
producing it’s crazy to go from Brandon
Staley who was a laughing stock
that nobody respected as a fan and
obviously he unraveled under the
pressure to go to Jim
Harbaugh their social media team and
their content has always been good with
the Chargers and now Jim because of
where he’s at in life I I don’t think
pushes back against any of that
they did three five minutes he went to
the Michigan pro day and the video was
fantastic and then they did like five
minutes of him and Greg Roman that live
in an RV park right now it is incredible
Jim to go from Brandon Staley to Jim
Harbaugh would be like go from making
like 50 Grand struggling just keeping
your head above water just going through
the grind to all of a sudden making like
$10 million that’s what it has to feel
like if you’re just around the Chargers
if you’re a charger fan if you’re a
Charger player to have that change and
just in terms of what it will do for
their
brand uh but back to harby I think he
just truly believes that I I don’t think
he’s making it
up I think he believes that to a SC that
JJ McCarthy is the real deal because he
just experienced him being the real
deal when Jim
Harbaugh his career wasn’t on the line
but
like his career Legacy was kind of on
the line like he’s going to lose to this
Nick Sabin team in the Rose bow as a big
favorite and then JJ leads him on a
game-winning
drive one of the biggest drives of his
career good work on the NFL on changing
the kickoff rules every play should
matter do you think the league will ever
do away with my pet peeve taking a knee
running the clock down to end the game a
league that’s so proactive to change to
better the game
but let’s games finish like this I can’t
fathom I know the league purist will
Sprout why it’s part of the
game but I’ll disagree every day twice
on Sundays again every play should
matter have they ever tried that in the
past maybe bit harsh but watching a
quarterback take a KN and celebrate a
win while the clock still hasn’t run out
feels like the equivalent of a soccer
player rolling around faking an injury
cheers and go
ners I’m going to disagree with you uh
it usually happens under the two-minute
warning with a team up and the other
team can’t stop him you know I think
there’s 58 minutes action maybe a minute
you know left in the game so 59 minutes
action like you’ve had your opportunity
I’m not bothered by it I was always more
bothered remember when Greg
shano uh rushed was it the Giants on the
victory formation that was pretty low
level it’s why shanu I love it when
media’s like remember when shano should
have got the Tennessee job no he
shouldn’t have shano would have been
eaten alive in the South guy’s such a
clown he belongs at Ruckers and it’s a
good spot for him but I I’m going to
disagree I I don’t have any issue with
it you know many call it the greatest
formation in football the victory
formation I think what it represents
like we’ve won the game we won the game
right it’s like
uh trying to think what older people
play like if you play golf like you’re
up three with two to go you’re playing
match play against somebody like you
don’t need to play anymore like it’s
over in basketball like you skunk a guy
in a pickup game I I have no problem
with it with the rasid rice incident
going around and takes of him possibly
missing games I want to get your
thoughts on the NFL Shifting the games
that players Miss from just being the
next games up on the schedule to instead
having the players miss the games at the
end of the season I feel like a player
missing week’s one to three is kind of a
weak punishment the games at the end of
the season tend to be much more
impactful what if we did this I got one
for you I don’t know how many games gu G
get spended M let’s just guess four
let’s say the guy’s going to get
suspended four games for going 700
million miles an hour and easily
endangering people’s lives on the
freeway in Dallas could have killed
people there’s no crazy part about this
situation is
Henry rugs we don’t know if this guy was
drunk because he left the scene
but like let’s use some common sense why
the hell would you leave a scene when
everyone’s going to know it’s your car
or you rented the
car like I wasn’t born yesterday had my
fair share of cocktails over the years
like let’s or maybe you’re high as hell
but if he killed someone his career is
over but because no one gets hurt he’s
just going to get in trouble that’s the
way the world works I mean it’s it’s sad
but it’s just the reality
what if we had a lottery then basically
you get a four game suspension and it’s
like a lottery you you could basically
spin a wheel like The Price is Right or
maybe you go Lottery like the NBA
draft and it’s just on there weeks one
to four weeks five to eight you know do
that
way and they broadcast
it I or or or they tweet it out I’d
watch I hear you though I like that uh
Thinking Inside the Box a little bit
question for the Pod Kansas City
recently declined to pay for a new
stadium to me it was not surprising in
these inflationary times I think the
owner’s a little cheap too but I feel
like this has a little to do with the
NFL PA grades that came out and gave the
Chiefs a very underwhelming score
overall I understand the owners asking
to have the stadium paid for by people
in taxes from the owner’s perspective
but overall asking for a stadium while
giving little in return for the players
who earn the lombardis insulting to to
the NFL fans viewers will always side
with the players and I’m glad the people
of Kansas City declined for the new
stadium what are your thoughts I think
I’ve talked about this before overall I
just don’t care about this story that
much like I understand why owners ask
they want a new stadium they’re going to
have to pay for it uh the NFL PA grades
you know it’s kind of an older Stadium I
don’t know I I’ve never been to the
Chiefs player locker room so it’s like I
it’s hard for me to have an opinion like
God that’s because here’s the thing
if we all spend a week let’s say with
the three teams graded the lowest like
the Cardinals if you just spend a time
in their cafeteria saw their operation
you would leave and go God what a
low-level operation anyone that’s worked
multiple jobs you go one place you’re
like God this pretty high level high
level people this is impressive and then
you go to another company or change
Industries you’re like God these there’s
a lot of morons here these people I’m
working for a guy that is an idiot so
until you’re in a spot I would say it’s
hard to judge I I also think my overall
take and I think I’ve said this
before most of these players are coming
from college where they’re not only
recruiting you out of high school
they’re now recruiting you on your once
you’re on the team because of the portal
is these lavish situations all over the
country it’s not just the high-end
schools it’s like every Power five
school has I don’t want to say Elite
facilities but pretty high-end
facilities
and then you go to the pros like they’re
not recruiting you they recruit you with
money so I I I just it’s hard for me to
go well you’re bitching and mo about the
chairs now I’d also understand like I
only worked for one NFL team and Jeffrey
lurry did everything humanly possible to
make sure the players were taken care of
because if the players were in good
spirits if they feel comfortable if they
like coming to work ideally they’re
going to play
better but wouldn’t it be pretty easy
for Clark hunt to go they’ve been
playing pretty good the what what
provided so I
it’s unless you saw it I I guess it’s
just it’s hard to have like some
hardcore opinion the 82 game pre-season
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believe it or not this is not a husband
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actually a lady herself I listen to
three and out so hello from your what
would be 1% demo might be a little
higher than one but it’s pretty
low might even be under one anyways I
love sports and as a lady I also love
women’s sports and try and hype it up
whenever possible so I very much
appreciate you calling out the massive
uptick and viewership and the interest
in the NCAA tournament I agree with you
that the reason why there is an uptick
in popularity is because of the star
power of some of these women have earned
throughout their talent it is the voices
like yours that make someone from being
on the edge of watching women’s sports
to actually sitting down and watching a
game especially on our US Women’s
National
Team well I I think the US Women’s
National team is a little different I
think they have been a Powerhouse for so
long and we followed you know college
basketball women’s like Gino and Pat
Summit in Tennessee and Yukon like I
watched them when I was young I I paid
attention not like watched all their
games but you paid attention to them
because they’d have years where they
were like
undefeated but obviously there’s a lot
of talent in college basketball for
women’s you know all the girls that were
drafted High a lot of them played at the
best programs but this is a Caitlyn
Clark Story she’s the one if Caitlyn
Clark didn’t exist I think the ratings
would have been higher but she is like I
don’t know like Steph Curry or something
she’s an outlier but I I appreciate you
because I don’t think just because I
said hey I watched the women’s game
would other people watch it I don’t know
but like I’ve said I only watched it
because of her she’s the only reason if
she hadn’t exist I would not have
watched
it hell I almost put a$ thousand dollar
on them to win the national championship
because they were like a two and a half
one Underdog glad I didn’t they got
work currently deployed in the Middle
East appreciate your service and your
podcast is the best thing keeping me and
my crew updated on football I wanted to
know what’s the best draft pick that you
helped Scout when you were with the
Eagles none they didn’t listen to me
when I started doing College chip came
in he definitely didn’t listen to me
told him not to Draft Matt Barkley took
Matt
Barkley
uh when you’re at the bottom of the
totem pole and you get a coach who
doesn’t like you might as well just burn
my reports did all that work for
nothing but it led me in a weird way to
Colin coward now I’m here so thank you
Chip
Kelly I saw that he ran the triple Wing
the other day at Ohio State and listen I
I respect Ohio State the program I
really do like you’re one of the best
programs in all of college sports
consistently not the biggest Ryan Day
guy I think chip Kell’s going to be a
disaster and you you should be very very
thankful that Jim left because if Jim
had stayed all those guys would be
getting fired get your ass kicked again
I don’t care how much money you’re
paying for players Jim Harbaugh was
never losing to Ryan day ever again it’s
like when Jim showed up and urban Meer
kicked his ass that’s what was about to
become especially with Chip Kelly
Rolling In Harbaugh’s defense give me a
break love the show longsuffering Jets
fan the team is an alltime oh the team
is all in with a 40-year-old quarterback
accumulating talent but injury-prone
older guys to go along with younger
studs Garrett Wilson Bree Hall and a
young talented defense you mentioned
it’s an approach to team building that
doesn’t happen much anymore and probably
won’t work due to the injury risk I see
your point but recently the Buccaneers
acquired an aging quarterback surrounded
him with vets Antonio Brown groon
forette studs Evans and Godwin with
young talented defense so what
difference about the Bucks
approach well Tom was healthy one the
core of the Bucks dramatically better I
mean Mike Evans borderline Hall of Fame
are already on the
team uh via they draft Evan White
immediately their offensive line was
good
they draft wors in whatever 2020 star
Ali marpet who recently retired was
really good uh the center whose name is
escaping me was really good they had
Donovan Smith there who was the worst
offensive lineman who just started for
the Chiefs so their team was just better
another curveball they had Bruce arens I
got news for you Bruce arens is running
circles around Robert Sol as a head
coach and I like Robert solah
actually had this thought when I was
watching The Warriors
because Klay Thompson’s kind of done
he’s just not the same player and I’m
not comparing Klay Thompson to Aaron
Rogers because Aaron at his sport is
better than clay right klay’s not the
number one Aaron’s you know the
equivalent of a number one but like when
it starts going physically it’s never
quite the same and I I just think the
likelihood that he’s gonna have a
successful year at 40 years old coming
off in Achilles separate from all these
other players that have their own issues
you know injury-wise I just have a hard
time believing that I also think he
showed us two years ago he’s bad with
the Packers like that Packer team’s good
we saw Jordan love second half of the
season was
excellent so what if Aaron Rogers was
just half as good as he once was or
75% and he’s like the 12th best
quarterback you’re coaching staff isn’t
good enough the Jets had Bruce arens and
Todd BS as the defensive
coordinator I I just don’t think yours
good coaching was on my girlfriend’s
Instagram from Ellie but it’s this isn’t
Ellie I don’t know why does nobody
question Malcolm Butler about being
benched in the Eagles Pat Super Bowl I
mean come on John this guy pretending to
not know is more frustrating than Bill
not saying anything about it Malcolm
knows why
I
agree I would die on this hill I have a
hard time I don’t believe I do not
believe under no circumstances that the
guy just played all season long I
remember it was like whatever percentage
of the snaps I don’t think it was 100
but it was damn high he was a full-time
starter Super Bowl comes and he’s just
benched he’s like I got no clue what
happened right I would say most times in
life the majority of times in life the
majority of times in
life you
know when you before you break up like
yeah you know she’s not that into you
maybe you’re not that into her I’ve been
fired from a job I can see it coming I
knew it was going to happen I’m like
this ain’t good something’s off I’ve
been in trouble when I was a kid a lot
with my parents this guy didn’t do it
like yeah I knew I did
it there is I I see under no
circumstance think about bich
belich will trade you without telling
you belich will make harsh Personnel
moves but he’s never made a move like
that and historically he’s always bench
guys like yeah Chandler Jones got traded
shouldn’t have gone in stoned to that uh
jail or Precinct and spoke with a
cops right could have saw that one
coming remember that running back they
had I forget his name but he like an
undrafted free agent played played for
bich and had a huge Monday Night
Football game and then like the next
week like on Wednesday he was 5 five
minutes late for a meeting and I think a
couple weeks later he was cut I might be
misremembering this maybe he was benched
cut I I waved a couple weeks later for
the most part belich hasn’t done things
of like why would he do that in terms of
guys playing in a
game I see under no circumstance that
Malcolm Butler
can’t hasn’t told his friends his wife
like what really happened I I don’t
believe it maybe the other players on
the team don’t know I I can’t see it
just coming out of nowhere yeah I’m just
Bing him why not just gut feel just a
gut
feel I don’t know I’m with
you that play though when he made the
pick what an incredible
interception really is certain plays in
sports like I just never get tired of
watching that play I think that’s the
best Super Bowl play of all time that if
I just watch it’s like I never get tired
of watching it the other one is James
Harrison when he picked off Kurt Warner
and took it back and Larry Fitzgerald
went out of bounds and was like weaving
in and out of people and ended up
tackling him into the end zone that
would be I’d put that even above David
Tyree because the David Tyree we’ve seen
weird catches
Julio had won a Super Bowl Edelman had
won a Super Bowl I would say the Malcolm
Butler thing is one of those plays that
every time you’re like holy
love the Pod watch all your videos
I’m 24y old serving active duty in the
military we appreciate your
service I’ve always had a passion for
sports and team especially football I’m
a junkie through and through I want to
work in a front office one day I plan on
going to college after military to
pursue my fion and scouting US
Government better pay for that I’m
learning how to break down all 22 film
on my off time and essentially making it
my lifestyle I’m
obsessed I have a connection with a
division one school in Big 10 that I may
be able to get my foot in the door any
recommendations on Majors for what
career path and advice on the journey I
would say your major is pretty relevant
I would recommend if you’re Gung you
know gung-ho dead set on working a
football take the easiest major
possible just because you can dedicate
more time to football there’s no point
in trying to be like a architectural
engineer and spending all your time in
the library not able to do football
stuff now if you can be a business major
that always makes the most sense but I I
worked with people with all sorts of
Majors it doesn’t matter
so I would say
just I would recommend getting the
easiest major possible if under no
circumstances you’re not going to do
everything humanly possible to do
football as a full-time career
path business you know just a Basic
Finance degree but if you don’t like
business then it may be hard I I would
Communications one of those degrees that
everyone on Tik Tok you know
liberal arts that everyone on Tik Tok
complains about I can’t get a job well
like yeah no
I’d also argue like who would his
degree even matter I got like three
degrees they don’t mean it they do
nothing two
actually State schools you know I’m not
exactly harbard gret but I mean I’d say
that’s been diminished a little lately
as an avid Sports Card Collector which
Young quarterback has the highest upside
in the NFL at the moment could be a
starter or
non-starter it’s a good question
question you would have to take someone
off the beaten path like what if this
Tennessee crew like Brian Callahan make
will Levis into a player then all of a
sudden he’s
good I’m looking at Value here like will
Lis you get his card for nothing right
now what if you just look up in a couple
years and he’s like a legit
starter
uh trying to think this draft would
probably be Jaden Daniels like what if
he goes to Washington becomes a star
what if he’s like this Dynamic player
he’s like Lamar light JJ McCarthy gy to
think let’s go Daniel Jones hell
no uh we have a lot of established
veterans probably Buy Low on Bryce young
though I think that’d probably be a
waste of money I would say Levis would
just be a good like you know throw a
little cash in see if it pops hoping for
like a 10 bagger and if it doesn’t
whatever didn’t cost you much because so
think how many quarterbacks are like
Baker Derek Carr cousins Dak like they
kind of are who they are py but I I
don’t know the card Market I’m not a big
card guy is pretty cheap like what if py
becomes
Superstar I guess that would be one he’s
already damn good player but like what
if he does this for the next 10 years
because if he does then he’ll be you
know viewed as one of the best
quarterbacks in the league for a long
period of time that’s probably where I’d
go I would say just low lowbudget flyer
will Levis perie would be just kind of
betting on this guy just becoming a
consistent star in the NFL

32 Comments

  1. NFL prints money. Never should a tax be imposed on people whether it be a hotel tax or airport tax. And if Jim has a hard on for JJ then trade Justin and reset the QB clock

  2. Happens every year. Player's agents hype up a gaggle of overrated college QB's so they get picked higher. Smart GM's don't fall for it. The only QB who should be picked in the top 15 is Caleb.

  3. Compare McCarthy to Maye. McCarthy was a 5 star recruit was Maye? McCarthy went 27-1 while Maye went 17-9 including 2-9 down the stretch of both seasons he played. The argument against JJ is he played on a good team. The argument for Maye is he played on a bad team. Weird.

  4. Nailed it with "taking a knee represents you've won the game"
    removing the play imo would be a dumb move, more trouble than it could ever be worth, AND- what do you replace it with? If the point is "every play should count" nothing will change. If you ban the qb kneel teams will just run an iso or inside zone in situations where they would have kneeled, and the play will still mean nothing, because a situation where you would take a knee is a situation where the game is decided and basically over.

  5. Here’s one component of the game that has to change: the QB spike to stop the clock. It’s the literal definition of intentional grounding, but the leaks for some reason doesn’t care about that. Eliminate the QB spike, and let’s watch the juicy drama that will unfold when the team truly needs to stop the clock.

  6. I equate taking a knee, aka V formation, as a sign of sportsmanship. Instead of running up the score, you let the clock run out.

  7. Another woman checking in. From NY but not a Giants fan, like Jets and Bills. I listen to you mostly for NFL. Love Colin’s sets w you too 😍

  8. The people of the city and taxes should NEVER be the ones paying for the stadium unless they all have shares in the team meaning the team is publically owned

    Absolute joke for the NFL making 14+ Billion a year

  9. If Harbaugh loves McCarthy so much, take him at 5 and trade Herbert for probably 3-4 1st round picks

  10. As a Michigan fan I can tell you JJ is a great qb he passed Brady and harbaughs records at Michigan. Whoever gets him is gonna be very happy for a long time. I will be a fan

  11. Jayden Daniels is going to be good, really good, but he gets hurt so easily. Went out against Bama, and out against Mizu. Bryce Young has played at the highest level in HS and College, and he’s taken hits because he’s been smaller his whole life. Stop sleeping on Bryce Young !He’s just the 2020 Bengals with rookie Joe Burrow, no one around him. Thinking he’ll be the next Drew Brees

  12. I've never had a problem with the QB kneel, "victory formation." However, if there was any desire to remove it, I think it would be interesting if the rule change was that with under 2 minutes left you have to gain yardage to keep the clock running. If the defense stuffs you for a loss, then the clock stops. That could add some drama to the end of a close game!

  13. I grew up on 2k if I dub you pass the controller apparently everybody doesn't not honor this

  14. If he really "believe" in him trade Herbert for 3 or 4 1st rounders and pick him then 😂😂, certain GMs and coaches can tell him and Colin anything and they'll believe it and call them "smart" 😂😂

  15. The chiefs put a crappy proposal together on purpose, they wanted it to fail so they can say they tried. For one it was tied to the royals and two they want to move to kansas city kansas, where theres big time gambling money and more space to build.

  16. Every college coach will hype up his qb . Not surprising one bit he's hyping up Mccarthy . If he's so sold on Mccarthy how about chargers draft him & move on from Herbert lmao

  17. IMO: the David Tyree helmet catch is the most impossible play in the history of sports! It completed the Giants Cinderella story and stopped the patriots from completing the perfect season! However, Malcolm Butler’s interception is the most consequential play in sports history because it prolonged The Tom Brady/Patriots dynasty. It’s about as big of a deal as Ray Allen’s game 6 3 pointer vs the Spurs for LeBron.

  18. Love Jordan love but it was two different teams plus Rodgers had a broken thumb , Rodgers had worse TE play and Rodgers starting WRs were fresh rookies running wrong routes and dropping balls , Love got them atleast with a year of experience and also got really good weapons in WR and TE drafted behind them , again I’m happy as a packers fan that we have JLove and hope the best for him and think he’s gonna be a beast and hope last year wasn’t an outlier but also don’t hate Rodgers and appreciate everything he did for GB making it watchable enjoyable football every year and hope he proves a lot of ppl wrong this year but just gotta keep things fair yes he played bad to his standards but was still top half in the league out all QBs that last year in GB and a different team

  19. can we please let Rodgers play a game before we say it was a failure? You say Arians runs circles around Saleh, yet Brady said FU to him midway through the season and that he's running his own offense.

  20. That question about “Harbaugh knows JJ is the real deal” was silly af. Michigan won 90% of their games because of their running game and defense, not JJ McCarthy, therefore, Harbaugh can only BELIEVE McCarthy is the real deal just like other teams that BELIEVE it because he didn’t have to constantly show it on the field. What a ridiculous question.

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